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Android L: Smart Lock

This video is highlighting a new feature of Android L - trusted devices. Basically, your phone doesn't lock itself as long as it's connected to trusted devices via bluetooth.
I'm more interested in the other smart lock feature shown in the video, though not really explained. It's called trusted faces. Anyone with a Nexus 4/5/7 try this yet? Can anyone confirm if it works differently (hopefully better) than face unlock in previous versions of Android?

Ya it works fine .I am loving it

I wonder if I can do this with my device and my Glass...

Dr Faustus said:
I wonder if I can do this with my device and my Glass...
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You can do this with tasker. I have it so my phone does not lock when connected to my home WiFi, etc.
Also if you have xposed installed then no lock home works as well.

wwevoxnj said:
You can do this with tasker. I have it so my phone does not lock when connected to my home WiFi, etc.
Also if you have xposed installed then no lock home works as well.
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That's good to know, I use Tasker normally to switch from Mobile Data to WiFi when arriving home and vice versa.

Trusted face works good, but I wish it would allow multiple faces.

The face unlock seems to work a bit better than in previous android versions... you don't know it's looking for your face, you just swipe to unlock and if it recognises you then it just unlocks, if not, you put your pin in.
I'm having trouble with tasked though, my old method of removing the pinning when connected to my wifi doesn't seem to work... neither does turning off the mobile data... I think it's just that tasked may need an update

I just tried this on my other N5 after seeing your post. The only time I can't get it to work consistently is in very dim/dark lighting similar to the way its always worked. The differences in the way it works on L vs earlier iterations is that it is extremely fast almost instant and it never shows the camera. It's constantly looking but in the background. There is small icon bottom center that changes from a person avatar (to tell you it is looking) to an unlocked padlock symbol to confirm it recognized you upon turning on the phone. Hope that helps. The trusted devices works wonderfully.

So does this "smart lock" only work with bluetooth and NFC? I hoped (and thought it was implied when the feature was first shown off) that you could also set it up to bypass the PIN unlocking when connected to a trusted wi-fi network, but it looks like it only works for bluetooth and NFC. Which kinda sucks for me, because I really don't use any kind of bluetooth things, nor do I have anything that would work with the NFC aspect of that, either.

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You can do this with tasker. I have it so my phone does not lock when connected to my home WiFi, etc.
Also if you have xposed installed then no lock home works as well.
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How would you have xposed running on L?

Is there a way, to use WIFI as an smart lock device? I mean maybe it is possible to use Tasker to simulate an connectet bluetooth-device if i am connectet to my wifi?

borsty44 said:
Is there a way, to use WIFI as an smart lock device? I mean maybe it is possible to use Tasker to simulate an connectet bluetooth-device if i am connectet to my wifi?
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I have Tasker setup with Secure Settings to toggle PIN lock when I'm on home wifi, and it doesn't seem to work correctly on L for my N7 2013. The setting is set to NONE in the security settings, but I still have to enter my PIN. If I manually go in and "edit" the setting and select NONE again, then it doesn't ask for my PIN. Once I leave home and Tasker applies my PIN again, if I return home, I have to go manually select NONE again or just enter my PIN.
Not sure if that's a bug with Secure Settings or a bug in L. The setting is changed, but it doesn't seem to register. I guess I could understand if it did something like, require the PIN for unlock the first time after connecting, but that doesn't seem to be the case. I used Trusted Devices on m Moto X 2013 with the bluetooth in my car, but trusted devices are cleared when you disable PIN lock. I use the same profile to turn off the password on my phone when I'm at home, so it clears my trusted devices every time I go home. I use my phone pretty often, so the lock doesn't usually set during the day. My tablet sits on my desk at work all day and I have to unlock if I use it (30 minute lock delay), but at home I am on my tablet most of the night while my phone sits unused (but it doesn't lock, because I'm at home..).
Either way, something isn't working with L and Secure Settings on my Nexus 7.

You'll now be able to add trusted places to smart lock.
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Amazing
i'd like to use it to unlock the phone with bluetooth paired headset or NFC, unfortunately i've 4.3... do you know if ther is a mod for 4.3?

Just be aware that if you have ANY app that turns off your screen (for example, Gravity Screen, which can detect you putting the phone in your pocket or face down, and automatically shuts off the screen), the Google API also forces that app to lock the screen as it shuts it off. The lock that the app will do cannot be circumvented by Smart Lock, and you'll have to enter your passcode every time.

I just got the location-based update for smart unlock and it's great!
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the only thing that sucks about smart lock with Bluetooth, you can't control the distance. My pebble watch goes 30 meters before Bluetooth drops. That means at work i can go to the bathroom and someone still can bypass my lock screen

wwevoxnj said:
You can do this with tasker. I have it so my phone does not lock when connected to my home WiFi, etc.
Also if you have xposed installed then no lock home works as well.
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I use Trusted Devices for my Nexus 6, but I don't use the other business. The face unlock can still easily be beaten. You can even just hold up another smartphone and get it done. The trusted devices is *really* nice. The only two things I use it for are my car and the sound system in my bathroom. Those are the only 2 devices that, when I use them, I know my phone is right there. I don't have it set up for my Android Wear watch, since I don't want someone to be able to pick up my phone from my desk at work when I'm 20ft away and play with it, and I don't use my home wifi because it extends all over my yard...so if anyone just picks up my phone anywhere within 100ft of my house they can use it.

2swizzle said:
the only thing that sucks about smart lock with Bluetooth, you can't control the distance. My pebble watch goes 30 meters before Bluetooth drops. That means at work i can go to the bathroom and someone still can bypass my lock screen
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Before you go to the bathroom, just touch the lock icon on the lock screen for a second or so, and it will require a passcode for the next unlock.

jt3 said:
Before you go to the bathroom, just touch the lock icon on the lock screen for a second or so, and it will require a passcode for the next unlock.
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Good to know and repped. thanks! I have a Moto Keylink coming next week

Moto Notify incompatible with smart/face unlock?

OK, so I reach to pick up my phone... Moto notify does it's thing and shows the padlock... I swipe down to unlock, and despite being in a well lit area etc I'm greeted by my unlock pattern.
If I wake the phone with the power button, it sees my face just fine and unlocks, no pattern required.
Same for everyone else?

chrisund123 said:
OK, so I reach to pick up my phone... Moto notify does it's thing and shows the padlock... I swipe down to unlock, and despite being in a well lit area etc I'm greeted by my unlock pattern.
If I wake the phone with the power button, it sees my face just fine and unlocks, no pattern required.
Same for everyone else?
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Yeah, what you do is when you get asked to put in your pin you press the back button, do the face unlock, and swipe up to unlock your phone like usual, sadly there's no other way to get around it.

Works fine with smart unlock with a bluetooth device.

Yeah it's fine for when I have the smart unlock for trusted location and trusted bluetooth device (ie at home and car, in my case), but it's bit of a pain that the trusted face doesn't work with it.
Ah well, maybe it'll be fixed in M... but I won't hold my breath :lol:

Nexus imprint vs Smart Lock

I was wondering thoughts on this I have the phone and have noticed that I am still hitting the power button to double tap the notification to unlock the phone directly to the app (smart lock and on body/trusted place enabled) and not using the fingerprint sensor because it just unlocks phone. (To the home screen or last app left open). Don't get me wrong the fingerprint sensor is amazing.

When you double tap the notification, you can use the fingerprint scanner instead of putting you pattern or pin in, even though it doesn't look like you have that option.

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When you double tap the notification, you can use the fingerprint scanner instead of putting you pattern or pin in, even though it doesn't look like you have that option.
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That's good to know thanks, but you still have to hit the power button if you have ambient display off.

I have a smart watch so smart unlock is always there. The problem is smart unlock goes into lock screen but finger print goes into home screen directly. I'm not sure if it's intentional to make more people use fingerprint.

I stopped using smartlock because of nexus imprint. Smart lock is kind of hit or miss anyways (at least on the original nexus 5) and nexus imprint is much more accurate and reliable.
Also, of your phone is lost or stolen, a criminal wont be able to unlock it by going to a trusted location or connecting to a trusted WiFi/Bluetooth source.
Sent from my Nexus 5X

_jordan_ said:
I stopped using smartlock because of nexus imprint. Smart lock is kind of hit or miss anyways (at least on the original nexus 5) and nexus imprint is much more accurate and reliable.
Also, of your phone is lost or stolen, a criminal wont be able to unlock it by going to a trusted location or connecting to a trusted WiFi/Bluetooth source.
Sent from my Nexus 5X
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I still use Smartlock with my car because its mounted and I can't get to the fingerprint scanner.
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Wait this thing has a power button? Lol I've have barely used the power button since I set up imprint on day 1
It just works so flawlessly (unless my finger is wet/moist) I pick up the phone and my natural finger position lands and bam it's like my phone was never in sleep mode. I ended up only setting up smart voice for the ok google function and disabled face unlock and on body detection, I never used trusted location, WiFi or Bluetooth to paranoid about losing my phone
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Pin/pattern often needed to unlock?

EDIT: dkotoric has realised this is due to using the double tap to sleep function on some launchers. Locking your device with that prevents the fingerprint scanner from allowing access for some reason.
So today was my first full day with the 6P. It's a truly great device.
A whole bunch of times though when I've come to unlock the device I've had to put in my pattern because it won't accept the fingerprint scanner.
The icon at the bottom of the lock screen that should be a fingerprint is just a lock symbol. If I then lock the phone again and reunlock it works as expected.
Not sure if this is a software bug or some setting I've got wrong. Can't see a pattern for when it does it though. I've switched 'require pattern on restart' off which has made no difference.
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Josh98 said:
So today was my first full day with the 6P. It's a truly great device.
A whole bunch of times though when I've come to unlock the device I've had to put in my pattern because it won't accept the fingerprint scanner.
The icon at the bottom of the lock screen that should be a fingerprint is just a lock symbol. If I then lock the phone again and reunlock it works as expected.
Not sure if this is a software bug or some setting I've got wrong. Can't see a pattern for when it does it though. I've switched 'require pattern on restart' off which has made no difference.
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I've experienced that on one occasion today. That was after no occurrence in a full day's use yesterday. I put it down to slightly incorrect/incomplete/inaccurate finger print scans when it's set up.

Had no issues yet, used it for 2 days.
I have a pin set for after a reboot and it will ask for pin if I accidentally use pthe power button to switch on.
So far my finger print has not failed once o. My two index fingers.
I set up my finger print with a central / top end / bottom end / left edge / right edge and its worked fine

Been super accurate for me
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I recommend using your main finger on different angles rather than using 5 different fingers when setting it up. ?
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I've setup each index finger once and it hasn't skippes a beat. I'd setup your finger again and this time move your finger around after every press to get different angles.
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I haven't had any issues whatsoever. You could setup each index finger as 2-3 different fingers if you want to improve accuracy too.

Still waiting on my 6P, but I do have the 5X. Installed all of my usual apps when I received the phone. Set up fingerprint scanner. For the life of me couldn't figure out what the heck was going on. Every time I would unlock the phone it would go to PIN screen. I had read all of the reviews on how fantastic the FPS was. Started to get really annoyed. In fact I did a factory reset to see if this would help. This time I didnt install apps just set up FPS. Worked flawlessly. Installed apps again and what do you know stopped working again. Then it hit me, I have an app called ScreenOFF. Basically I could touch the screen and it would turn the screen off without hitting the power button. Uninstalled app and FPS worked perfectly. SO, be careful if you have any of these types of app as it seems it screws up the ability to bypass lock screen

It seems to have sorted itself over night. Hasn't done it so far today. Thanks guys.
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what I notice is I use lock app and apex launcher so I have it set up to double tap on screen to lock the device. If I lock the device using this method I can no longer unlock the device with my fingerprint. I have to use the lock pattern. Then I have to lock the phone again via power button in order to use fingerprint scanner?

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what I notice is I use lock app and apex launcher so I have it set up to double tap on screen to lock the device. If I lock the device using this method I can no longer unlock the device with my fingerprint. I have to use the lock pattern. Then I have to lock the phone again via power button in order to use fingerprint scanner?
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Holy **** you're right yeah that's been my issue the whole time doing the same with Action Launcher. Been so used to using it it didn't occur to me that's the cause. That's annoying.
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Josh98 said:
Holy **** you're right yeah that's been my issue the whole time doing the same with Action Launcher. Been so used to using it it didn't occur to me that's the cause. That's annoying.
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I have your issue but I am not using any sort of double tap to lock apps. also I am using google now launcher.

Yea this happens when you use a third party app or launcher to lock the device via a double tap on the home screen. I set up a gesture in Nova Launcher to lock the device via a double tap on the homescreen and when I do I cannot unlock the phone via Imprint. There is just a lock symbol instead of the Imprint symbol and the only way to unlock it is using the pin. It seems that right now the only way to use Imprint to unlock the device is when you lock the device using the power/sleep button. Using any 3rd party software without root access to lock the device will only let you unlock the device via the pin instead of Imprint.
EDIT: Everything works fine with root access. If you grant the app performing the screen lock root access then you will be able to lock the screen with say a gesture like double tapping the home screen and then you will still be able to unlock the device via Imprint.

I had this issue as well where my 6P would ask for my pin after using the fingerprint scanner. It would do this many times per day.
What I have found to stop this from happening is removing the administrator rights from all the apps that uses it to lock the screen. It seems that the phone will ask for a pin when a 3rd party app locks the screen.
So I'll just rely on Android locking the screen on its own vs entering the pin so many times a day along with the fingerprint scanner.

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Yea this happens when you use a third party app or launcher to lock the device via a double tap on the home screen. I set up a gesture in Nova Launcher to lock the device via a double tap on the homescreen and when I do I cannot unlock the phone via Imprint. There is just a lock symbol instead of the Imprint symbol and the only way to unlock it is using the pin. It seems that right now the only way to use Imprint to unlock the device is when you lock the device using the power/sleep button. Using any 3rd party software without root access to lock the device will only let you unlock the device via the pin instead of Imprint.
EDIT: Everything works fine with root access. If you grant the app performing the screen lock root access then you will be able to lock the screen with say a gesture like double tapping the home screen and then you will still be able to unlock the device via Imprint.
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Are you just using nova as far as root access? I'm so used to just having greenify lock the screen, but I'm having this issue

Akomack said:
Are you just using nova as far as root access? I'm so used to just having greenify lock the screen, but I'm having this issue
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I'm actually using loads of root apps including Greenify. (Though I'm not using greenify anymore) Everything is working fine. Are you having the issue when locking via a greenify gesture? I didn't even know Greenify had a screen locking gesture lol. Or do you mean the Imprint issue occurs after Greenify puts the device to sleep automatically?

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I'm actually using loads of root apps including Greenify. (Though I'm not using greenify anymore) Everything is working fine. Are you having the issue when locking via a greenify gesture? I didn't even know Greenify had a screen locking gesture lol. Or do you mean the Imprint issue occurs after Greenify puts the device to sleep automatically?
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Greenify has a widget that will hibernate and shut the screen off. I ended up finding this app that will shut the screen off and allow me to use the fingerprint to wake/unlock the device. :good:

So far, the only 3rd party app that I've found that can shut the screen off without root and without needing the pin again is Gravity Screen https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.plexnor.gravityscreenofffree&hl=en
It has a few widgets that you can link your double tap homescreen gesture to. Specifically, I'm using Lightning Launcher and link the double tap to the "Off" shortcut. The other shortcuts will lock the phone and then you'll need the pin again instead of just the fingerprint.
However, I think the way this app accomplishes this is to first blank the screen off with just a black overlay and then set the screen timeout to around 10seconds (it sets it right back to whatever you had before by the time you wake the screen again). So far, I haven't had a problem with this since the app also has "in pocket protection" in which it will keep the screen from turning back on if the proximity sensor is covered. So if you double tap to sleep but then put it in your pocket before the 10 seconds is up, it won't turn it back on. If you have it sitting on your desk, you can double tap to sleep, but then tap again on the black screen within the first 10 seconds to see the navigation keys again. This also has the weird side effect of not being able to use the fingerprint reader during those 10 seconds, because technically the screen is still on. This was a little unsettling at first since I couldn't figure out why the fingerprint reader wasn't vibrating when I thought the screen was "off". To me, it's not that big of a deal so it's fine with me.

Oneplus 6t new major fingerprint security flaw

The OnePlus 6T's fingerprint sensor can easily be bypassed with this trick. . We have confirmed it working on two phones so far. Phone Unlocks itself via camera and voice from Lock screen, plz some one report..

Please confirm that the phone cannot see your face when you unlock it, and no Smart Lock trigger was active.
This alleged problem does not exist on my phone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxz3FXNobhw

veatesia said:
Please confirm that the phone cannot see your face when you unlock it, and no Smart Lock trigger was active.
This alleged problem does not exist on my phone.
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No i turned off face unlock , it just unlocks itself, just open the camera from lockscreen then close the camera app,

no , i turned off face unlock, it unlocks itself from launching camera from lockscreen thn closing the camera app, it bypasses all security locks " fingerprint , pins and face unlock"

We shall wait for others to check. I couldn't reproduce the error at all.

Do not have this problem with mine, are you sure you don't have your left thumb registered?

ExjeetzZ said:
Do not have this problem with mine, are you sure you don't have your left thumb registered?
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Bro, i asked my friend to unlock it unlocked just like that.... he just opend the camera app from lockscreen and closed , try in Navigation gesture mode...

can't reproduce

Yeah I can't reproduce this error either.
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Either way if this is true. you should be reporting it to OnePlus. Not telling everyone on XDA how to break into someone elses 6T

sivji said:
The OnePlus 6T's fingerprint sensor can easily be bypassed with this trick. . We have confirmed it working on two phones so far. Phone Unlocks itself via camera and voice from Lock screen, plz some one report..
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So if I'm hearing you right, you're saying that by opening the camera from the lockscreen and then pressing your home button, your phone unlocks? Doesn't do that for me, it prompts me for my PIN or fingerprint when I press the home button. Can't reproduce this either... Might reinstall OOS? I'm at a loss for advice on this one.

I can reproduce this. I use navigation gestures, so opening the camera from the lockscreen and then just close it with the right (or left) swipe gesture to go back and you're in the phone. I don't think it has anything to do with the fingerprint sensor.
Edit: now I can't reproduce it anymore strange.. [emoji848]

I'm not able to reproduce this either. Switched to navigation gestures. Turned off face unlock. Launched camera from lock screen. Swipe from side to go back took me to lock screen with fp prompt only, no keypad for PIN. Tried again, this time swiping from middle to go home. I get fp prompt & keypad for PIN. However, with this screen the camera stays open and viewable through the lockscreen, but phone is still locked.

After a few tries I see my home screen but it's only a flash then it's back to my lock screen. It looks like it may want to but maybe I'm doing it wrong. Either way, this looks important enough to report to OP and see what's what.

sharksfan7 said:
I'm not able to reproduce this either. Switched to navigation gestures. Turned off face unlock. Launched camera from lock screen. Swipe from side to go back took me to lock screen with fp prompt only, no keypad for PIN. Tried again, this time swiping from middle to go home. I get fp prompt & keypad for PIN. However, with this screen the camera stays open and viewable through the lockscreen, but phone is still locked.
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5 out of 10 times it unlocks, checked with 2 other friends mobile, it happens in all the 3 gesture's

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The OnePlus 6T's fingerprint sensor can easily be bypassed with this trick. . We have confirmed it working on two phones so far. Phone Unlocks itself via camera and voice from Lock screen, plz some one report..
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Tilted phone so it can't capture my face and tried as you've said - running camera and voice commands from lockscreen and phone is still locked, cannot bypass..
So there are two vartiants.
1) Phone still recognizes your face
2) Enabled smart unlock? so phone knows that you are in home and automatically unlocks device.

sharksfan7 said:
I'm not able to reproduce this either. Switched to navigation gestures. Turned off face unlock. Launched camera from lock screen. Swipe from side to go back took me to lock screen with fp prompt only, no keypad for PIN. Tried again, this time swiping from middle to go home. I get fp prompt & keypad for PIN. However, with this screen the camera stays open and viewable through the lockscreen, but phone is still locked.
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Tilted phone so it can't capture my face and tried as you've said - running camera and voice commands from lockscreen and phone is still locked, cannot bypass..
So there are two vartiants.
1) Phone still recognizes your face
2) Enabled smart unlock? so phone knows that you are in home and automatically unlocks device.
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Nope, i unlocked my friends mobile @ my home...

You sure you have a pin/fp/pattern set up at all?
I've been trying for 5 minutes with gestures and it always just either asks me for a pin or sends me back to the lock screen.
Seems odd but maybe post it on the OP forums instead of here, won't get them to fix it if they aren't aware of it...

Nope. Unable to reproduce.