[Q] (Q) Quick Charge 2.0 - Verizon Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've searched and google searched. Can't find any discussions or current kernels supporting quick charge 2.0. I just received my s5 yesterday and assumed someone would have figured out how to enable our qualcom chip for quick charging... Am I missing something or is this not possible?
Thanks!

bdubbin said:
I've searched and google searched. Can't find any discussions or current kernels supporting quick charge 2.0. I just received my s5 yesterday and assumed someone would have figured out how to enable our qualcom chip for quick charging... Am I missing something or is this not possible?
Thanks!
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You're terrible at the googles... See the 1st link and the 6th link that come up.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=quick+charge+2.0+s5

ldeveraux said:
You're terrible at the googles... See the 1st link and the 6th link that come up.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=quick+charge+2.0+s5
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Maybe I need to clarify... I understand the S5 isn't quick charge capable out of the box for some reason, but the Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 chip is supposed to be capable(quotes below). If we're rooted and are able to use modified/custom kernels, is there some reason we haven't enabled quick charge? I saw one kernel that is supposedly dead which had supported "fast charging". I found only one other kernel, which listed nothing about fast charging or quick charging. I've already read all of those google search links which are old and have some reference for the ability(below quote). According to another post on XDA, a Japanese carrier has enabled it...
XDA member timeToy:
" Quick charge 2.0 feature itself is part of the Snapdragon 801 CPU https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/801
DoCoMo (Japan carrier) has officially enabled the Quick Charge 2.0 on their handsets, including the Galaxy S5. The power adapter is for sure different, and I am not aware of any firmware change."
"Despite the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G900V) CPU (Qualcomm Snapdragon 801) being listed as Quick Charge 2.0 capable on Qualcomm’s site and claims to that effect on various blogs, the phone doesn’t support the charging standard in testing."
https://jdrch.wordpress.com/2014/12...-s5-doesnt-support-qualcomm-quick-charge-2-0/

bdubbin said:
Maybe I need to clarify... I understand the S5 isn't quick charge capable out of the box for some reason, but the Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 chip is supposed to be capable(quotes below). If we're rooted and are able to use modified/custom kernels, is there some reason we haven't enabled quick charge? I saw one kernel that is supposedly dead which had supported "fast charging". I found only one other kernel, which listed nothing about fast charging or quick charging. I've already read all of those google search links which are old and have some reference for the ability(below quote). According to another post on XDA, a Japanese carrier has enabled it...
XDA member timeToy:
" Quick charge 2.0 feature itself is part of the Snapdragon 801 CPU https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/processors/801
DoCoMo (Japan carrier) has officially enabled the Quick Charge 2.0 on their handsets, including the Galaxy S5. The power adapter is for sure different, and I am not aware of any firmware change."
"Despite the Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G900V) CPU (Qualcomm Snapdragon 801) being listed as Quick Charge 2.0 capable on Qualcomm’s site and claims to that effect on various blogs, the phone doesn’t support the charging standard in testing."
https://jdrch.wordpress.com/2014/12...-s5-doesnt-support-qualcomm-quick-charge-2-0/
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I see your point now.
But is QC2 really that much faster than USB 3.0 charging? Doesn't seem so, so maybe it's just not worth it for developers, if it's actually capable...

ldeveraux said:
I see your point now.
But is QC2 really that much faster than USB 3.0 charging? Doesn't seem so, so maybe it's just not worth it for developers, if it's actually capable...
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QC 2.0 is supposed to charge a 3300mA battery 0% to 60% in 30mins... I haven't tested USB 3.0 charge times since I received yesterday, but I'm guessing it's not as fast. What's your round about charge time?
I'll test charge time with OEM cable to USB 3.0 on my computer and using the OEM cable and wall charger and see what I get.

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bdubbin said:
QC 2.0 is supposed to charge a 3300mA battery 0% to 60% in 30mins... I haven't tested USB 3.0 charge times since I received yesterday, but I'm guessing it's not as fast. What's your round about charge time?
I'll test charge time with OEM cable to USB 3.0 on my computer and using the OEM cable and wall charger and see what I get.
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with USB3.0, my S5 charges at about the speed advertised for QC2. It's a wash man, just let it go...

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LG: Confirms LG G4 supports Quick Charge 2.0

Just to stop the confusion and back and forth about this topic.
LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it. The bad news is that the G4’s in-box wall charger doesn’t support Quick Charge 2.0, so you’re going to need a new wall wart — such as the Motorola Turbo Charger — if you want to juice up your G4 in a hurry.
Here's the Link:
http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-does-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-technology/
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Ok thanks for the confirmation.....
Are there many manufacturers which provides the 2.0 charger with the device?
Yeah the issue was it out of the box it has neither.
To wireless charge you need a case or a sticker. To fast charge you need to buy your own charger. So when a reviewer gets the phone out of the box neither of these are available and that's where the confusion came from. Good conformation nevertheless.
I'm glad there's a thread about it, hopefully it doesn't drive the price higher on the device once officially released They are competing to get Samsung and Apple users for the most part. All these favorable reviews and positive feedback Internet Wide should do the trick.
Honestly I was aiming towards the Galaxy S6 myself but am glad I held off until the G4 was officially out. Unless there's a serious problem with the the device I am 99.9% sure that this will be my next smartphone.
Even current Galaxy S6 users are looking at the G4 and that is saying a lot.
.: Sent from an optimized 'ANDROID til I die' device :.
daboyal006 said:
Just to stop the confusion and back and forth about this topic.
LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it. The bad news is that the G4’s in-box wall charger doesn’t support Quick Charge 2.0, so you’re going to need a new wall wart — such as the Motorola Turbo Charger — if you want to juice up your G4 in a hurry.
Here's the Link:
http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-does-support-qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-technology/
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Yeah but the weird thing is I have the nexus 2.0 charger and even with that it doesn't quick charge like my nexus.
I am thinking it will be a software update with changes to the kernel.
poczynek said:
Yeah but the weird thing is I have the nexus 2.0 charger and even with that it doesn't quick charge like my nexus.
I am thinking it will be a software update with changes to the kernel.
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Its possible, that reviewer on the video Ive posted could have already updated the software. Do you have another quick charge cable you can try it on, maybe a Samsung one?
LG was surprised themselves its working on their units.
"LG has confirmed that, yes, the G4 does support Quick Charge 2.0. The company tells Pocketnow that while it didn’t set out with plans to support the feature, the inclusion of Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 808 processor in the G4 means that the phone does technically support it."
I read that LG said that Quick Charge will be enabled in the software the G4 is officially released with. Since the reviewers have pre-release software they don't have it.
The Android Central podcast said they tried the Motorola Turbo Charger with the G4, but the phone said an unknown charger was connected and to charge at full speed use the LG charger.
So can someone provide a link to turbo chargers or manufacturer and model of charges that support this?
The reason why i assume is that the Kernel doesn't have the feature integrated yet or it isn't enabled
Code:
.method private setQuickCharging(I)V
is in com.lge.services.jar.out\smali\com\android\server\power\PowerManagerServiceEx.smali which i found when comparing the G4 with the G3 frameworks, it is located on line 3100 if you wan't to check it out, however i ain't sure if this is somehow "disabeld" or if it just lies there and waiting for it to be enabled.
cerobles1 said:
So can someone provide a link to turbo chargers or manufacturer and model of charges that support this?
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Here ya go. Several including car chargers on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Quick-Charge-Certified-Watt-Charger/dp/B00QFVRV1O
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00P9UILUM/ref=pd_aw_sim_107_1?refRID=13PDYX9KCCQVK1NCH6ZB
LastStandingDroid said:
The reason why i assume is that the Kernel doesn't have the feature integrated yet or it isn't enabled
Code:
.method private setQuickCharging(I)V
is in com.lge.services.jar.out\smali\com\android\server\power\PowerManagerServiceEx.smali which i found when comparing the G4 with the G3 frameworks, it is located on line 3100 if you wan't to check it out, however i ain't sure if this is somehow "disabeld" or if it just lies there and waiting for it to be enabled.
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So can we all agree - at least in USA - that QC is not actually turned on yet. I kind of thought it would be on, since the acknowledged the chip/phone was capable, but we need to buy our own adaptors. Well, I bought a few QC 2.0 plugs, but I'd say they are doing nothing (I have never had QC 2.0 so not entirely sure what to look for other than "faster" charging - which does not seem to happen). Apparently they acknowledged too late in the shipping cycle to actually update the device to accept QC 2.0. BTW, I have seen companies, even in the ship cycle, send an update to devices so when you got them, they updated when started up.
I've been using my 2.0 charger that I bought from amazon for my Z3 and it is indeed working. phone charges at slightly faster than a percentage point a minute.
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So can we all agree - at least in USA - that QC is not actually turned on yet. I kind of thought it would be on, since the acknowledged the chip/phone was capable, but we need to buy our own adaptors. Well, I bought a few QC 2.0 plugs, but I'd say they are doing nothing (I have never had QC 2.0 so not entirely sure what to look for other than "faster" charging - which does not seem to happen). Apparently they acknowledged too late in the shipping cycle to actually update the device to accept QC 2.0. BTW, I have seen companies, even in the ship cycle, send an update to devices so when you got them, they updated when started up.
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Yup its just not active. And the new M feature doze. is a joke its in the framework of Android 5.0 of both G3 and G4 not sure if active though
So.. I'm confused. I got the phone last night and it took like 9 hours to fully charge to 100%.
I don't get my QC 2.0 charger until next week, but ... is it confirmed that it isn't activated?
Sfkn2 said:
So.. I'm confused. I got the phone last night and it took like 9 hours to fully charge to 100%.
I don't get my QC 2.0 charger until next week, but ... is it confirmed that it isn't activated?
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No simply that the phone's chip supports it but you need the proper charger for it.
It shouldn't take 9 hours even with the out of the box charger, more like 2 hours maximum.
The European H815 will charge at 9V, but the LG G4 draws nothing like the current which other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 devices do.
jeyd02 said:
No simply that the phone's chip supports it but you need the proper charger for it.
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Phew. Okay, I ordered the AUKEY 2.0 QC charger from Amazon.
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denco1 said:
It shouldn't take 9 hours even with the out of the box charger, more like 2 hours maximum.
The European H815 will charge at 9V, but the LG G4 draws nothing like the current which other Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 devices do.
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I'm reading from other threads that it's normal to have slow charges the first few times..
Is this not accurate? That was literally my first charge.
No phone I have ever owned has charged slowly the first few times.
If you are using the stock cable/charger something is either faulty or they just didn't handshake together properly. I have had that happen a few times, not regularly though.
Like I say using the standard charger it should take around 120mins, you will only save 20mins or so at the moment by using an Aukey charger.
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Like I say using the standard charger it should take around 120mins, you will only save 20mins or so at the moment by using an Aukey charger.
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Thanks for the information. Is it safe to assume that this is just a guess or an estimate, since you haven't actually used a QC 2.0 charger on the G4? Or is this proven by your device?
The only reason why I question is because there are a lot of G4 users on QC 2.0 chargers who are stating that they are having great experience with their charge times in comparison to the stock charger.
By stating that it's a 100 min with a QC 2.0 vs 120 min with a 1.8V charger, you're not talking about much of a difference.

Does G2 accept Quick Charge 1.0/2.0?

The G2 seems to be capable of using Quick Charge 2.0, which is part of the Snapdragon 801 chipset. But with mine I got a basic AC wall charger, and if you read the (literally) microscopic text on it, it says it's putting out only 1.1 amps... which is well short of the at least 2 to 5 amps of many other chargers. So my questions are this:
1. Did anyone else get a higher capacity charger with their retail kit? Mine is a long rectangle bearing the LG logo.
2. If not, is this stock charger really not compatible with Quick Charge 2.0, or am I just reading the fine print wrong?
I've been researching this further, and it may be that LG intentionally shipped a low amperage charger. Because the battery is not user-serviceable, it would behoove them to use a slower charger, since ultra-fast charging harmful to the its life and capacity. The intricacies of rechargeable batteries are many, but the excess heat generated during charging degrades a Li-Ion pack pretty quickly, among other things.
Still, based on the assumption that the stock charger is truly 1.1A, I just bought a QC2 charger -- when I'm out in the field, I don't have time to sit and wait for something to charge at an outlet. I also bought a 10000mAh external battery with a solar panel. The rate at which LP eats juice is no joke.
@voxluna the g2 is using an Snapdragon 800 chipset and it might be capable of doing it but I don't know about it. But the micro usb port also doesn't support it as the additional pins were highlikely for slimport. Also using quickcharge on a device like this is highly risky as the device might not handle it too well. If the stock drains too much I suggest to find the cause of the problem and kill it or use an good custom rom with an good kernel and remove apps you aren't using. Goodluck.
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wulsic said:
@voxluna the g2 is using an Snapdragon 800 chipset and it might be capable of doing it but I don't know about it. But the micro usb port also doesn't support it as the additional pins were highlikely for slimport. Also using quickcharge on a device like this is highly risky as the device might not handle it too well. If the stock drains too much I suggest to find the cause of the problem and kill it or use an good custom rom with an good kernel and remove apps you aren't using. Goodluck.
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I will dig into the QC2 wiring plan, just out of curiosity. I am confused as to whether an extra USB 3.0 port/pins are necessary (like on the Note 3) or not. Though I believe that plugging a phone into a higher amperage device is not supposed to be harmful. It's too late to cancel the Amazon order, so we'll see.
What I don't know is if my 1.1A charger is what's standard with a retail G2. The reason I asked if anyone else got a different charger is that this phone was a refurb I got from T-Mobile. For example, it came with a cable that I don't think is OEM LG, because it doesn't work with ADB. OTOH, it is possible they just don't implement QC2, like most models don't have the FM radio capability. But, the radio is omitted because carriers don't want it competing with music downloads; as for faster charging, I can't think of a good reason you wouldn't offer that feature.
@wulsic After a little digging, it appears you don't need any extra pins like on the Note 3; a sync+charge cable will suffice. And that makes sense, because the QC2 standard applies all the way from Snapdragon 200s to 8xx. Nonetheless, so far I haven't seen any documentation saying the G2 compatible with 2.0 -- the single LG device listed by Qualcomm is a G4. Crazy, really.
That still leaves QC 1.0, but I have yet find anything that shows the G2 (however, Qualcomm's listing is dated from before the phone came out, so it's not definitive). It may also be that a plain 2A charger, which I do have, can do the job faster than this LG 1.1A. I'll have to do some accurate testing to quantify a difference.
Further research: I came across this thread, a post in which seems to indicate that the G2 can do fast charging. However, I'm having a problem with the current not showing up properly in monitoring apps, which is confounding this entire process.

Quick Charge 3.0?

Hello,,
Some users posted information that the new galaxy phones will not support the Quick Charge 3.0 but only 2.0 :crying:
I contacted Qualcomm and Samsung and they both weren't able to provide me whether a conformation or denial about it.
So what do you think for those who like this feature? Will the new phones support it or not? because to me a phone with 3600mah should really have the Quick Charge 3.0.
the manual on page 12 says 2.0
Qualcomm s820 soc supports quick charge 3.0. Is it possible they have not activated that feature? Sure I geuss. Also they are offering more than one soc depending on your location. So the s820 won't be the chip for everyone.
I am only going by what the manual says. If Samsung put that in the manual then that's what it is unless they made a mistake with it, and then they should be able to clarify
Tidbits said:
I am only going by what the manual says. If Samsung put that in the manual then that's what it is unless they made a mistake with it, and then they should be able to clarify
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It could be something that they will update or something in the kernel that can be modified by developers. I'm saying that the processor supports it. So it if they truly are only using version 2.0 it will most likely be enabled to 3.0 in the future.
If it does great. If it doesn't oh well.
There is a big chance that the new upcoming phones will support the QC 3.0 through an update.. the HTC A9 has a micro usb port and didn't support QC 3.0 until they release an update for it so I really hope Sammy will do that too for both of new phones!
wf-17 said:
Hello,,
Some users posted information that the new galaxy phones will not support the Quick Charge 3.0 but only 2.0 :crying:
I contacted Qualcomm and Samsung and they both weren't able to provide me whether a conformation or denial about it.
So what do you think for those who like this feature? Will the new phones support it or not? because to me a phone with 3600mah should really have the Quick Charge 3.0.
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agree with you! Quick charge 3.0 will be much better.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/snapd...-galaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-powered-snapdragon-820
To ensure that you’re spending less time plugged into a socket and more time enjoying your mobile experience, the Samsung Galaxy S7 is outfitted with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0: It fuels your device up to 75 percent faster than conventional charging.
I saw this on gsm arena. Another website mentioned the 83 percent charging in 30 minutes. So not sure what to believe.
http://m.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s7-7821.php
It's Quick Charge 2.0 only in S7:
"[Samsung] told PC Advisor at MWC2016 that it thinks Quick Charge 2.0 is fast enough"
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/review/a...msung-galaxy-s6-vs-samsung-galaxy-s7-3635467/
So it doesn't have QC3.0 and it doesn't sound like Samsung is committed to enabling it. Is it on the table for custom Roms? I know the processor supports it but does the rest of the hardware? I just got my aukey QC3.0 wall charger in the mail and even though it's QC2.0 backwards compatible, it'd be nice to put it to use.
Here is a listing on the Qualcomm site which lists devices supporting their technologies. The S7 showed up under a search list for QC2.0 and had a page outlining its (mostly Snapdragon-based) technologies:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge
At the bottom there is a bullet item claiming QC2.0 for 75% faster charging than non-QC devices...
It's odd, most of the documentation of QC3.0 focuses on more efficiency, but they don't make any direct comparisons of speed. In fact, one article even clarified that QC3.0 has the same max power as QC2.0 and the same target power flow and what it added was fine grained control over voltage and that it may help the speed of charging on lower voltage devices. So, it's a mixed message as to how much benefit it might provide a cell phone, the 0-83% figure I've seen quoted is often "a device went from ..." meaning they could have chosen the device that was least suited to QC2 for their benchmark and that device would be the one that would benefit most from QC3.0. But, in the end, maybe QC3 really didn't offer much real-world charging performance for the S7? Still, the greater efficiency due to having better control over voltage might have been a nice change even if the total speed wasn't that much better.
flarbear said:
Here is a listing on the Qualcomm site which lists devices supporting their technologies. The S7 showed up under a search list for QC2.0 and had a page outlining its (mostly Snapdragon-based) technologies:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/smartphones/samsung-galaxy-s7-edge
At the bottom there is a bullet item claiming QC2.0 for 75% faster charging than non-QC devices...
It's odd, most of the documentation of QC3.0 focuses on more efficiency, but they don't make any direct comparisons of speed. In fact, one article even clarified that QC3.0 has the same max power as QC2.0 and the same target power flow and what it added was fine grained control over voltage and that it may help the speed of charging on lower voltage devices. So, it's a mixed message as to how much benefit it might provide a cell phone, the 0-83% figure I've seen quoted is often "a device went from ..." meaning they could have chosen the device that was least suited to QC2 for their benchmark and that device would be the one that would benefit most from QC3.0. But, in the end, maybe QC3 really didn't offer much real-world charging performance for the S7? Still, the greater efficiency due to having better control over voltage might have been a nice change even if the total speed wasn't that much better.
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That is because QC3 doesn't improve the speed of charging at all. The only thing it does is make it more efficient.
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That is because QC3 doesn't improve the speed of charging at all. The only thing it does is make it more efficient.
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Despite what I said in my previous post, which was mostly speculation based on the loose wording I'd seen in a number of documents from Qualcomm, there are still a number of articles that claim it is faster due to its efficiency, but not by a wide margin. For instance:
http://blog.blitzwolf.com/what-is-qc-3-fast-charging-with-blitzwolf-chargers.html
(Note that the QC3 battery is only at 70% vs 62% for QC2 and both are super-imposed over what looks like a smartphone graphic)
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...8-more-power-efficient-than-quick-charge-2-0/
(same graphic, the title claims 27% faster, but the graphic only shows it being 8% ahead at the 29 minute mark)
If you listen to the video in the Android Police link they only ever compare charging speed to QC1 and conventional charging and the 38% claim vs QC2 is of efficiency. For example, from their press release:
Qualcomm said:
Quick Charge 3.0 is engineered to refuel devices up to four times faster than conventional charging. It is designed to charge twice as fast as Quick Charge 1.0 and to be 38 percent more efficient than Quick Charge 2.0.
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But, their video clearly shows that it is actually faster than QC2, it's just not 27% faster as claimed in the Android Police headline. Perhaps it might be 27% faster to 100% since the voltage step downs happen primarily at the tail end of the charge cycle and so the fine-grained voltage control will smooth that final charge level quite a bit. But getting a quick boost charge is not going to run into that since it can mainly happen at the maximum power where the existing fixed power levels of QC2 are close enough to optimal.
So maybe the video race shows what happens in real life when you aren't trying to get to 100%?

Does Redmi 3s support Quick Charge?

The Xiaomi India website doesn't mentions that it supports Qualcomm Quick Charge but there are some people who are saying that it supports Q.C. 1.0/2.0 and some even saying that it supports 3.0.
And the Xiaomi website states that “[it] Comes with 5V/2A quick charging to charge and go with minimal downtime.”. Interestingly enough, Quick Charge 1.0 also charges at 5V/2A.
Has anyone tried charging with Qualcomm Certified chargers and is there any long term issue like battery inflating, poor battery backup, etc?
And if it does work then what are the things I should be looking in a charger when buying apart from Qualcomm certified chargers?
The soc of our device does support quick charge, but to enable it, we need a suitable kernel
I think it's enabled on MIUI developer rom.
Vortex9p9 said:
I think it's enabled on MIUI developer rom.
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Yes. Some say that latest beta update miui 8.2.5 has total charging period of 2.5hr.
As per the super moderator in MIUI forum the Dev rom supports QC 2.0 and charging time is less than 2 Hrs.

charger issue

Can i use a quallacom quick charge charger rated at [email protected] (i guess what turbo power gives is 9v at 1.67A)
P.s both give charging current of nearly 2500ma in ampere app,my original moto charger is not wrking and i am out of warranty
Yes I use my samsung charger (9v 2amp) on my G4 all the time shows as turbo charger when plugged in.
Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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Its a charger designed for sd 625 based phone only
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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What is?
I don't think you understand, there is no charger specifically for the SD625 or any other chipset... this is merely Qualcomm's Quick Charge technology, but Moto/Lenovo didn't want to pay the licensing/royalty or whatever else to call it that, so they call it TurboPower. I have a Qualcomm QC 2.0 adapter here at my desk and if I connect it, it clearly says "TurboPower Connected".
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By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
airafali said:
By sd 625 i mean the quickcharge version which sd 625 supports by default...
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Again, I don't understand what you mean. The SD625 support Quick Charge 3.0, but the charger supplied with the device is a QC 2.0 compliant adapter that is labeled "TurboPower", at least in the US. If I connect a Samsung GS7 to the Moto charger, it shows Fast Charging as well.
I am not trying to be argumentative, but I don't understand what are you trying to say here.
acejavelin said:
Yes, you can use a QC 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0 charger with this phone... although I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery. When you use a QC 1.0 or 2.0 charger, the phone has to step down to that version, which will still charge faster than a "standard" charger, but it will increase battery temperatures while charging significantly which over extended use can reduce the overall life and capacity of the battery.
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But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
McKellen said:
But Moto g5 plus doesn't support quick charge 3.0. I read somewhere that it supports only quick charge 2.0
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According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
acejavelin said:
According to reputable reviews, it's Quick Charge 3.0:
https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-g5-plus
https://www.androidheadlines.com/2017/03/moto-g5-plus-android-smartphone-review.html
However, "officially" according to Lenovo, it supports Quick Charge 2.0 but even when asked directly they do not state that it does or does not support 3.0.
I have a USB diagnostic device but I don't know if that will tell me the answer, since I don't own a 3.0 capable charger currently.
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I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
McKellen said:
I read this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g5-plus/accessories/chargers-t3584554 Why doesn't Moto just tell us which charger should we use?
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Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
acejavelin said:
Honestly? I'm guessing it's a royalty or licensing thing, they can't say "Quick Charge 3.0" because they didn't pay the fee.
Just my guess... I have nothing to back that up.
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Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
McKellen said:
Have you ever tried the Quick charge 3.0? Some users report that quick charge 3.0 doesn't work. I haven't tried it coz I don't have the QC 3.0 charger
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Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
Karlinski said:
Dude, don't double post. It's a waste of space, time, and creates pointless threads.
QC3 Chargers can use QC2 to charge devices. Whether or not the phone supports it is irrelevant.
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I'm just asking coz QC 2.0 charger is cheaper then QC 3.0 charger
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
Karlinski said:
And both will work fine. A 8 second Google search will tell you this. Try looking before asking!
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I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
McKellen said:
I know, I know but Acejavelin said: "I would HIGHLY recommend only using a QC 3.0 charger if possible, it is much better at delivering variable power needed for quick charging and controlling temperatures in the battery."
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Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
acejavelin said:
Ok, using "highly" and "much better" here might have been a bit overkill... From 1.0 to 2.0 the difference is huge, from 2.0 to 3.0 not so much, especially on a device like this that isn't drawing a ton of current consistently.
Is a 3.0 charger better for the longevity of the battery, and thus the device, over the long term? Yes. Is it significant enough to pay the extra over a 2.0 charger? That's your call... After a year or so of consistent use it might not even make a significant difference in battery life, it may add a month ot two to the longevity of the phone over it's lifespan, no one can say for sure because each case is unique.
My chargers, except car chargers, far out last my phones, I've had the same charger on my nightstand for 4-5 years now (seriously, it's from a Blackberry Playbook) so it's an investment...
I don't understand the issue here... A good QC 3.0 charger is a few bucks more than a 2.0 charger, and if you look you can get one for $10-$12, so is two or three dollars worth worrying about this?
If you are just concerned about what is best for the battery, never use a quick charger at all...
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I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
McKellen said:
I use right now Aukey QC 2.0 charger and I consider buying QC 3.0 charger so thank you for the explanation.
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That is my charger at work... If you have a QC 2.0 charger, don't bother getting a new one. If you are buying one, get a 3.0 one.
I know this thread is a little dated and I'm a late comer to this thread, but I just bought the g5 plus on a black friday deal at best buy $300 down to $225, US xt1678 variant, 64gb storage and 4gb ram, I jsut could not resist it for that price, and....it was actually cheaper than the 32gb storage 2gb ram variant which was listed at $229
Anyways on to my question, this is for acejavelin. You said your qc 2.0 worked and came up as showing turbo charging (not just normal charging)? I hope I am reading this correctly. Also is this one of those Qualcomm® Quick Charge 2.0 chargers, that's what I was looking at buying for my car and was curious if it worked. Just checking to make sure I'm reading the thread correctly.
I recently just bought a 2.1 fast charge lighter plugin, but guess what, it doesn't turbocharge only normal charge. I tried with the cord that came with the phone, as well as 2 other cords and still only normal charge for each one.
Now with my wall charger (the provided turbocharger that came with the g5 plus) in the house, all 3 cords work and show as turbocharge as long as I am using the provided moto turbo charge wall charger.
I also was curious and tried an old samsung charger that I used on I think it was the s4, last samsung I owned lol. With my nexus 5x which has USB-C worked wonderfully with it, but sadly turbo charge does not work so well with the samsung wall charger, because it does not show as turbo charge, but only normal charge on the g5 plus.

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