Hi all,
I'm hoping someone here can assist me. I've not played about with the phone since buying it and seem to have forgotten how to do everything in that time. I used to install custom ROMS on my older phones on an almost daily basis but having kids have prevented me having time to do this any more!!
I have the G900F model and after buying it, the first thing I did was root it and install Philz recovery and Wanam exposed. I haven't needed to do anything else since then. The firmware version on the phone is currently 4.4.2. I see now though that 5.0 is available to us and I thought it was high time I updated.
My preference would be to get OTA working, but having trouble with it due to the fact that it is rooted and has a custom recovery. After refusing to even check for updates, I used Wanam exposed to trick the device status into showing "Official" and I can now download updates OTA. The install fails though, but the error is not on screen in recovery long enough to see why, though I presume it has something to do with the custom recovery.
My first question is whether flashing a stock recovery back on will allow the OTA update to work? If so, where can I get it?
Secondly, if this will still not work I take it I will need to use ODIN instead? Will this factory reset the phone? I just want to update to 5.0 without the fuss of resetting the phone, so hoping people can help me get this to happen.
The chances are that you've tripped KNOX by flashing a custom recovery, if that is the case, it's likely that KNOX is breaking OTA, and will continue to do so no matter what you do. The only way past this is Odin..........
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
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I'm coming from the HTC environment and the Note 4 will be my first Samsung phone. I have a few concerns regarding root. Assuming the Note 4 can be rooted, using the Note 3 and the S5 as a precident, how does one maintain updates? With HTC, if you had root, you could flash a new ROM for software updates (newer android versions, bug fixes, carrier updates). However, to update firmware, like updated radios, you needed S-Off.
Please help explain. With the Note 4, what will we need in order to do the following, and what is the likelyhood each of the following will be possible:
1) Obtain Root to run apps requiring root (Titanium, adblocker, WIFI tether...)
2) Install custom recovery
3) Flash custom ROMs
4) maintain a phone with updated and current Firmware and Radios.
Otherwise, what do people do who root there phone on day 1? Do they go 1-2 years with the phone without updating firmware?
Thank you
you can update samsung software with no issues. Assuming they'll keep it like the Note 2, there under the settings>update, there are different tabs, and one is Samsung.
Modems and other such updates, you'll just need to wait a day or two for someone to upload the newer OTA with root. Sometimes, some of the root tools, like SuperUser, will have OTA survivor mode, but they're not guaranteed to worked.
End of the day, it's not anything you're not already use to
Thanks for the response. So if the bootloader is NOT able to be unlocked, what will we be missing out on then? If the bootloader IS locked and there is no way around it, we can still root, flash ROMS, and update radios/firmware?
we can only go by the past to predict the future, but in US ATT Note 3 had locked bootloader, T-mobile loader was unlocked, so it was up to the carrier, but I believe both had way to root. One problem with Samsung was Knox software, which once triggered by root or loading custom firmware couldn't be reset back to zero. Based on that flag some people claimed to be refused warranty repairs, others didn't, so who knows. One thing is that Samsung "donated" knox to Google L Android, so it may be on all Android phones in the future, but again who knows how Google will implement it. It may take a time for developers to find their way around new phone, so if you have concerns, wait a little until all is clear, for now we can only guess. My Note 3 is rooted, "official" with Knox flag 0, but I had to wait for proper methods to be developed and every time I update I need to re root (and make some other changes) again. There could be developer model also with everything open, who knows.
Thanks for the response.
I just need to clarify what can be done on a rooted Samsung device vs what can be done with a rooted AND unlocked Samsung device.
Am I correct:
Rooted Only:
-superuser
-can run root required apps (Titanium, Wifi Tether)
-can flash custom ROM but must be stock based only, and must be on stock kernel
-can NOT install CM or TWRP custom recovery
-can update firmware and radios but must OTA and then re-root
you cant flash a rom with stock recovery
if no bootloader unlock, and no custom recovery, then no rom flashing..
flyhighx said:
.... Rooted Only:
.. -can flash custom ROM but must be stock based only, and must be on stock kernel .../QUOTE]
As stated above, this not correct. You'll able to flash the stock firm via Odin. In fact, you'll be able to get the tar file from Samsung if you wanted.
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I haven't used it in awhile, but I believe you still need a custom recovery to use Mobile Odin, don't you?
i want root mostly for four reasons:
Disable logging
Multi window enable more apps
Make one hand mode background black
because its mine and i can...
But I also need it rooted without tripping knox (for work purposes..)
I had my S5 rooted a few months ago, but then the update came out that was supposed to fix the bluetooth (last July), and my phone automatically downloaded and tried to install it. My phone was still rooted, so the updated failed. However, my root also failed as well. I could no longer access root applications like Titanium Backup, and towel root told me that it was unable to root my phone. Basically, my phone became frozen in time and was unable to update or do root-level things since this update last July. Now that Lollipop is out, I really want to upgrade, but factory resets do not solve my problem and I do not know of any more permanent way to get my phone back to basics so thatr I can receive OTA updates and have them actually work. Any help is greatly appreciated, as I really do want to upgrade my phone.
Start by downloading your firmware from sammobile, then flash it with Odin......
You'll then be fully unrooted and should be able to receive OTAs......
BTW.....Some people on here say that if knox has been tripped, that can affect OTA too.......
If that is the case, simply download the lollipop firmware from sammobile and Odin flash that instead......no need to OTA upgrade then...
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 SM-G900F S5
keithross39 said:
Start by downloading your firmware from sammobile, then flash it with Odin......
You'll then be fully unrooted and should be able to receive OTAs......
BTW.....Some people on here say that if knox has been tripped, that can affect OTA too.......
If that is the case, simply download the lollipop firmware from sammobile and Odin flash that instead......no need to OTA upgrade then...
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 SM-G900F S5
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Thank you for this advice. I used to flash stuff from my computer with my old phone, but haven't done so in years and didn't know which program to use. I was unsure if it worked at first, because my phone was the exact same after running Odin and I was expecting a factory reset, but I downloaded and ran the 4.4.4 update and it worked! Again, thanks so much for the help. I didn't really mind hitting "skip download until tomorrow" every day, but I wanted to upgrade to Lollipop.
Glad you got it sorted fella.......If it turns out that lollipop isn't all you'd hoped for, you can use odin to downgrade back to KitKat..........
.....but I think you have to remember to factory reset after the flash, otherwise you'll get bootloops and stuff......
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 SM-G900F S5
Hey Guys, I'm brand new to these forums, and to this whole community so bare with me.
Basically I bought my T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S5 phone around the time it came out, and I also had installed root on it via towelroot when Towel Root was first released. I did not update the phone at all for a long period of time and everything was working fine, until one day I was browsing under settings and accidentally tapped the "Software Update" button, then T-mobile auto-pushed an update onto my phone.
This update has caused the root on my phone to not work at all (Deemed useless) So I clicked SU and only a black screen popped up when I tried to open the app, so I uninstalled it, reinstalled it then got a message saying "There is no SU binary installed, and SuperSU Cannot install it. If you just upgraded to Android 4.3 you need to manually re-root your device" So I tried to re-root via towelroot method again. It seems the T-mobile update made my phone "Unsupported/Uncompatible" with TowelRoot's obsolete techniques, so now I'm in dire need of help.
My phone tried to push another t-mobile update (This time to upgrade to Lollipop) but it failed after attempting to install it after a reboot. So not only will my phone not update to Lollipop, but I'm not even rooted anymore and am unsure on how to get back rooted, or what to do next since I used rooting as a primary source to store apps on my SD Card. Kind of like i'm stuck in one spot? (Can't update your phone/can't root it the old method)
I'm brand new guys, Please can you break down to me what I should do, in order to obtain root again, and possibly be able to upgrade to Lollipop As well as prevent further pushed T-mobile updates? Here's some info if you need it
S5 Model Number: SM-G900T
Android Version:4.4.2
Kernel Version:3.4.0-262.. etc. (Tell me if you need the full kernel details)
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank YOU!
Flash this with ODIN
http://download.chainfire.eu/407/CF-Root1/CF-Auto-Root-kltetmo-kltetmo-smg900t.zip
(Will trip KNOX and void warranty)
Or flash a pre-June 2014 KK Kernel, root with Towelroot again, then flash back your current Kernel
Is this the only solution? And also is it the right one? o.o
Can anyone else please give me some feedback on the situation? I want to make sure I do this right, please just a little helps.
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Or flash a pre-June 2014 KK Kernel, root with Towelroot again, then flash back your current Kernel
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Hey I did exactly what you said and it worked I got root back, but I was wondering how to flash back to my current kernel and keep Root?
Hello all, first post here so please be gentle, I've searched and been at this for the better part of the last 12 hours.
I have a US Cellular Note 3 and I plan on trading it in towards a new phone soon (hopefully tomorrow if I can get everything going.) I've never had a custom ROM, I rooted it with towelroot and have used supersu for superuser access and have been using it like that for the past year and a half. From what I understand in order for everything to go over smooth trading it in I need knox to be at 0x0, and for it to show stock official ROM and official device status. As of right now knox is at 0x0, it shows official ROM, but device status shows custom, also in device status in my settings it shows custom and it won't update. I deleted all of my root apps, did a full unroot with supersu, still says custom. I unmounted my SD card and wiped my partition cache, still says custom.
at this point here's what I'm attempting to do based on a few hours of digging, download and flash a stock ROM (Have Odin ready, phones plugged in, drivers installed, downloading what I hope is a good ROM) re root my phone with towelroot, reinstall supersu, run triangle away, full unroot with supersu again, factory reset.
I can't post my download link due to being a new user, I went to sammobile firmwares and punched in my model number and found a download link.
my device model number (SM-N900R4)
Also my baseband version is N900R4TYUCNAB and I'm running 4.4.2.
Now for my questions: Will flashing a stock ROM trip Knox? How do I know for sure if it's a good stock ROM? Is this the appropriate course of action? In hindsight I probably should have asked that question first.
I really hope somebody can help me out with this, I've rooted every phone I've ever had but I feel pretty over my head at the moment.
UPDATE:::: I'M AN IDIOT!
Updated to lollipop through kies fixed the issue. If google leads anybody here in the future just use kies to update.
In all my years of flashing stock Samsung ROMs, none of them have ever tripped the Knox counter.
So, a few months ago I decided to root my phone with towelroot to give a try on a few root applications, as i was curious, but after that, I decided to remove through supersu it as, even with supersu, was more of a vunerability since I wasn't really using it.
Fast foward a month, I attempted to update my software and was denied with the reason that my device was custom.
Some important info:
- I'm running Android Jelly Bean 4.3, that has never been updated.
- I've attempted a factory reset through the phones recovery mode and made no difference.
- My KNOX waranty value is 0x0, and I would like to keep it that way if possible.
- Phone is factory unlocked.
Also, I've though of using Odin to flash the firmware back, but then I read that there is a possible that KNOX warranty gets triggered, even with a samsung official rom, is this true or am I safe to use it?
My objective is to have my phone back to factory settings (this means wannan xposed is out of the question), in order to be able to update my phone and keep using it, and while there is a lot of similar threads around, most of them reffer to GT-I9505 and GT-I9500 and mine is GT-I9506, which leaves me in somewhat of a doubt wether I should follow those or not.
Thank you for your time.
Diaz_ said:
So, a few months ago I decided to root my phone with towelroot to give a try on a few root applications, as i was curious, but after that, I decided to remove through supersu it as, even with supersu, was more of a vunerability since I wasn't really using it.
Fast foward a month, I attempted to update my software and was denied with the reason that my device was custom.
Some important info:
- I'm running Android Jelly Bean 4.3, that has never been updated.
- I've attempted a factory reset through the phones recovery mode and made no difference.
- My KNOX waranty value is 0x0, and I would like to keep it that way if possible.
- Phone is factory unlocked.
Also, I've though of using Odin to flash the firmware back, but then I read that there is a possible that KNOX warranty gets triggered, even with a samsung official rom, is this true or am I safe to use it?
My objective is to have my phone back to factory settings (this means wannan xposed is out of the question), in order to be able to update my phone and keep using it, and while there is a lot of similar threads around, most of them reffer to GT-I9505 and GT-I9500 and mine is GT-I9506, which leaves me in somewhat of a doubt wether I should follow those or not.
Thank you for your time.
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Flashing a stock rom trough Odin will NOT trip Knox. So just go ahead and flash the firmware you want.
Lennyz1988 said:
Flashing a stock rom trough Odin will NOT trip Knox. So just go ahead and flash the firmware you want.
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Alright, I assume the proccess is about the same as on the other versions.
Also, should I flash 4.4.2 instead of 5.0.1? The reason I ask is due to this thread.
Update: I flashed 4.4.2 with Odin3 3.10, and it went smooth and knox is still safe, however, for some reason, so thank you Lennyz1988 for the reassurance .
However, I'm not able to update to 5.0.1 Lolipop through OTA, as attempting to update states that im fully up to date.
My phone is running as NL (T-Mobile), factory unlocked and due to my quick research, seems that there is no official OTA update for it. Is it correct or am I looking in the wrong place to update my phone?