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I have been playing allot of games on my G3 and maxing the graphics settings to the max. I have had no frame rate issues on ultra setting with the most demanding games on the play store. Just for info, I play Dead Trigger 2, Riptide GP 2, Shadowgun, and other high end 3D games. I also play psp games upscaled to native resolution and most games play at full speed. Even God Of War. That is awesome.
I have yet to see the snapdragon 801 get bottlenecked by the 2k display playing even the highest level 3D games. Also the soc rarely throttles and I notice that the cpu cores do not all get utilized which tells me the 801 is more than adequate.
How about you guys? You can talk about anything. The thread is not centered around gaming. Thats just the most demanding thing I do on my phone. ?
T-Mobile LG G3 here [emoji41]
I've noticed heavy throttling when I play games while the device is charging, which is understandable because the battery get quite hot while it charges.
4ndroid99 said:
I've noticed heavy throttling when I play games while the device is charging, which is understandable because the battery get quite hot while it charges.
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Yeah when i play demanding games like dead trigger, after 10 minutes the cpu throttles to 1.5ghz max. That is only while charging. But no lag happens still. Besides it has to with 2 amps of current flowing in.
Can you tell me your settings for your psp emulator, which emulator and which version of the emulator you're using? I'm trying to play GOW GOS but its either dark or lag.
My phone throttle while web browsing sites as xda ... No other apps running.
GTA San Andreas chokes it a bit... but I haven't seen a phone able to run this maxed out, it's terribly optimised.
Hello,
So it seems the Note 4 is not that good at 3d performance in quiet a few games, especially Grand Theft Auto 3 (atleast with snapdragon 805, not sure about the other chip they use). I presume this is because it renders at the screens native resolution, and that the snapdragon 805 is not good enough for that.
If that be the case, is it possible to force game applications to render at a lower resolution, thus making the game less jittery? I have root.
In anomaly 2 it quite good
Maybe you shouldnt use power saving mode when play these heavy 3d game
captainbirdseye86 said:
Hello,
So it seems the Note 4 is not that good at 3d performance in quiet a few games, especially Grand Theft Auto 3 (atleast with snapdragon 805, not sure about the other chip they use). I presume this is because it renders at the screens native resolution, and that the snapdragon 805 is not good enough for that.
If that be the case, is it possible to force game applications to render at a lower resolution, thus making the game less jittery? I have root.
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Ive come to the conclusion that thermal throttling is to blame. I haven't play a heavy 3d game without it dropping frames within 10 minutes. It an issue that needs to be addressed.
I've been able to play modern combat 5 and dead effect without any slowdowns. Exynos Note 4.
Sent from my SM-N910U
HalvicFeedbatch said:
Ive come to the conclusion that thermal throttling is to blame. I haven't play a heavy 3d game without it dropping frames within 10 minutes. It an issue that needs to be addressed.
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Which version ??
Lodix said:
Which version ??
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snapdragon
There is an app to reduce the screen resolution:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nomone.resolution_changer&hl=en
It does require root. Unfortunately I have att version and no root yet. Wish I could use this, as some of the higher end games don't run great at 1440p.
Conkrete said:
There is an app to reduce the screen resolution:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nomone.resolution_changer&hl=en
It does require root. Unfortunately I have att version and no root yet. Wish I could use this, as some of the higher end games don't run great at 1440p.
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Seems to work with improving performance in the brief time I spent testing it, but it messes up the UI on a things, such is expected.
Sent from my SM-N910U
HalvicFeedbatch said:
Ive come to the conclusion that thermal throttling is to blame. I haven't play a heavy 3d game without it dropping frames within 10 minutes. It an issue that needs to be addressed.
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Thats correct bro, i came from S5 SD 801 and vice city (wich is more heavy than gta3) run smooth until i hit 20 mins and begins to slowdown.
I dont know at what resolution runs GTA VC on note 4 but i maxed out all settings and is super fluid and no slow downs, i being playin for 30 minutes and the smooth its not gone so far.
exynos variant.
I also have noticed some problems with Real Racing 3 and 3d Mark bench. Not as smooth as I've expected. Also on AnTuTu I get 40-49k one or two times even below 38k results so I think there is some thing we don't know about our device. I hope when Lolipop arrives this problems will be solved.
thats terrible for a 800$~ phone ! mine does excellent job on dead trigger 2 and nova 3 and riptide ! i have the exynos verison. i just got it i haven't downloaded any more games but im downloading order and chaos and dungeon hunter !
I'm on an SM-N910W8 Canadian Note 4, running 5.1.1 stock rooted w/xposed.
I've been kinda disappointed with this thing's performance in games - despite the supposed extra power, it's not getting much better framerates than my old S3, and I have to put nearly all 3D games in medium or low graphics just to get 30fps. Games like Modern Combat 5 and Xcom:EW are so choppy (15-20fps) they're basically unplayable.
I installed a very old program called SetCPU and tried changing the CPU governor to "performance" which forces max clock, and suddenly my framerates nearly doubled! Every game was performing as I expected this hardware would be capable of! But I got worried that I might be hurting the CPU because it was working harder than designed, so I turned it off.
And then I saw a little tickbox in my Wanam Xposed module called "Disable DVFS". After reading about it, it sounds like DVFS is the thermal throttling feature of the CPU, to slow down the clock if it gets too hot. Everyone is saying you should disable this for increased performance. But then that makes me wonder, why did Samsung include it in the first place? Surely you WANT the CPU to downclock if it gets too hot, don't you? Wouldn't disabling DVFS risk overheating and damaging the CPU? And if not, if it's perfectly safe to disable it, and there's absolutely no bad side, then why the hell did Samsung enable it in the first place?
Hello guys..
I have this phone which has a quite good Specs..Though when I install a game, there's some lag
I'm running on Nougat 7.0, I've installed asphalt 8 and there's a lot of lag in the main menu, but that doesn't matter cause I deleted it
now I've installed PUBG Mobile and it's a very exciting game and I'm running on the lowest graphics and I have free ram and space But it lags a lot. I've tried this game on Galaxy A5 2017 on medium (balanced) Graphics and It runs like a charm.
Is there anything I can do to make the game on my device faster with no lag? And why does the game lags anyway on my device which has 3GB Ram?
It's not the RAM that matters but also the GPU. A 2016 uses Mali-T720 while A 2017 is Mali-T830, thats the difference.
I suggest you use Game Tuner from Samsung and adjust the resolution to 55-80%
OK, the hardware is different, but other than that...
A 2016 (info from A5 but should be close) That GPU should be enough to fit the first game on high (maybe outdated), and the second on low (untested). For context, the CPU/GPU is like a motor, running at various speeds, 'weights it is carrying', and power required to maintain that speed (the heat output also scales with this). Some are simply better than others. The Game Tuner's HW performance (CPU) isn't or wasn't available. The customfrequencymanagerservice lowers the CPU/GPU speed for games, also increasing the battery life and lowering the heat. Search the logcat for "limitGPUFreq" "limitCPUFreq" "SIOP_ARM_MAX" (not the tag, but the content). Other than that, the CPU cluster 0/CPU cluster 1/GPU lowers its own speed at 86c (not bidirectional). Optionally, at the cost of heat and battery life, downgrade the game tuner and game optimizing service to whichever version has the apps category feature. Then select the app, then non-game. Lower the resolution to the default 75%. A limit is still there but not as much as before, and looks more like thermal throttling. If rooted, the max speed can be customized in /sys/power/cpufreq_max_limit for the CPU, and /sys/class/misc/mali0/device/dvfs_max_lock for the GPU. Set permissions to 644 to maintain the max speed (until the CPU/GPU lowers itself). Watch the temperatures. If it's too hot, reduce the limit. Maybe an alternative to root is debloating but the speed can't be lowered if needed.
Temperature sensors are here:
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/temperature
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_temp
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/chg_temp
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/cdev0/type
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/cdev0/type
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/cdev0/type
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/temp
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/temp
etc.
A 2017
The customfrequencymanagerservice applies to the CPU, up to 1794Mhz (HW performance). May lower with what looks like thermal throttling.
Does not apply to the GPU, which throttles itself somewhere around 76c from 962MHz to 845MHz.
Yep. Been playing PUBG Mobile on my A5 2016 on LOW graphics and HIGH frame rate (fps setting) for around one month and it does NOT lag. Although the transitions in UI of main menu is not as fast but the gameplay is super smooth and does not lag. Maybe it's because of your phone slowdown over time (I just factory reset my phone 6 months ago) or because the A7 has more pixels to push so it is more taxing on the GPU.
Bryan48765 said:
OK, the hardware is different, but other than that...
A 2016 (info from A5 but should be close) That GPU should be enough to fit the first game on high (maybe outdated), and the second on low (untested). For context, the CPU/GPU is like a motor, running at various speeds, 'weights it is carrying', and power required to maintain that speed (the heat output also scales with this). Some are simply better than others. The Game Tuner's HW performance (CPU) isn't or wasn't available. The customfrequencymanagerservice lowers the CPU/GPU speed for games, also increasing the battery life and lowering the heat. Search the logcat for "limitGPUFreq" "limitCPUFreq" "SIOP_ARM_MAX" (not the tag, but the content). Other than that, the CPU cluster 0/CPU cluster 1/GPU lowers its own speed at 86c (not bidirectional). Optionally, at the cost of heat and battery life, downgrade the game tuner and game optimizing service to whichever version has the apps category feature. Then select the app, then non-game. Lower the resolution to the default 75%. A limit is still there but not as much as before, and looks more like thermal throttling. If rooted, the max speed can be customized in /sys/power/cpufreq_max_limit for the CPU, and /sys/class/misc/mali0/device/dvfs_max_lock for the GPU. Set permissions to 644 to maintain the max speed (until the CPU/GPU lowers itself). Watch the temperatures. If it's too hot, reduce the limit. Maybe an alternative to root is debloating but the speed can't be lowered if needed.
Temperature sensors are here:
/sys/class/hwmon/hwmon0/device/temperature
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/batt_temp
/sys/class/power_supply/battery/chg_temp
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/cdev0/type
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/cdev0/type
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/cdev0/type
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone1/temp
/sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone2/temp
etc.
A 2017
The customfrequencymanagerservice applies to the CPU, up to 1794Mhz (HW performance). May lower with what looks like thermal throttling.
Does not apply to the GPU, which throttles itself somewhere around 76c from 962MHz to 845MHz.
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I tried to set a game to a *non game* but game tuner doesnt let you switch anymore between them
I have A3 2016 and playing 20fps in game. ( Medium fps setting). If i select high frame rate my phone is heating much then my display doesn't work stable its sensitivity sucks when phone heats. It's not lagging to the last 3 circle. But if i see an enemy my device lags a lot and my fps drops 5-10 so i died more times bcz of the fps drop. Gameplay is best in Lineage Os 15.1 but it has overheating issue so display sucks when device is overheated.
bamcam92 said:
I tried to set a game to a *non game* but game tuner doesnt let you switch anymore between them
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Downgrade. I have Game Tuner 3.3.03 & Game Optimizing Service 1.1.89.0, and it's there.
Edit: Game Tools 1.2.48.3, Game Launcher 3.1.00.5.
Bryan48765 said:
Downgrade. I have Game Tuner 3.3.03 & Game Optimizing Service 1.1.89.0, and it's there.
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I have the option, but when i click apply it goes back to normal, doesnt remove the games from the category
bamcam92 said:
I have the option, but when i click apply it goes back to normal, doesnt remove the games from the category
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The game optimizing service was downgraded? Reset (data for that app?)? The auto updates in the Samsung Store are forbidden? Else, maybe downgrade it further...
Bryan48765 said:
The game optimizing service was downgraded? Reset (data for that app?)? The auto updates in the Samsung Store are forbidden? Else, maybe downgrade it further...
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Yes it was. App unistalled multiple times. Samsung store removed entirely. Downgraded already to the lowest. The point is that some time ago i was able to do that, now it just wont work
I've been playing PUBG Mobile for a while now and wanted to ask you how you find the performance on our Samsung S8.
When I had Android Nougat it really sucked (a problem that shouldn't happen, because of the great potential of our phone). However, now that I have Android Oreo I can play normally and without problems, but I still find that I should run better because I have seen it installed in cell phones of lower capacity and have more fluidity.
Someone who plays it and knows some trick to get 100% potential out of our S8?.
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check what's running in the background that may cause hickup, look out for memory usage
I have an S8+ with the google wiz rom (It erased about 300 apps and has some optimizations) and I still feeling that my phone doesn't run the game as fluid as it should be
mine S8+ still has nugget. haven't received update yet. all the other apps and games run fine except PUBG, it freezes then restarts.
Mine s8 doesn't support hdr graphics and ultra frame rates in pubg
Hello
I have an s8 with custom pie ( hades rom ), max setting are hd and high fram rate, while rooting and removing all bloatware etc...
Just download gfx tools there is a paid and free version, i played it on smooth graphics 60 fps no lag at all, remember that internet speed plays a big role.
Hi, I know this is super late but what I've found about gaming on the s8 is that there is absolutely nothing that will affect the performance of the phone or your experience of the game more than thermal throttling. I tried for weeks to fix my lag problems with all kinds of kernel tweaks, network teaks, getting rid of background processes and trying to keep my ram free and was totally stumped until I realized just how much my cpu was being supressed by thermal throttling. Download GameBench to get an overlay of your in game frames per second (you should be able to get a constant 60 fps no problem until the throttling sets in) and get Simple System Monitor to monitor your thermal sensors and cpu frequencies. You should start to see an immediate correlation between your fps drops and your and clock speeds and temperatures. If your phone is rooted you can use Kernel Adiutor to set your cpu govoner to performance (it just locks your cpu at max clockspeed). This will make the throtting very easy to see in simple system monitor because you can see how your max clock speed is gradually stepped down as thermal engine overrides the govoner.
Now for the fix. If your S8 is a exynos you are a lucky b***ard and you can probably find a software solution for disabling thermal throttling like with a custom kernel or by editing a few system files. If your stuck with a locked bootloader like I am on the snapdragon s8 than the only solution is to actually keep your phone cool while gaming. I use ice packs wrapped in a paper towel. They only last about 30-40 mins so you may need several ice packs and keep them in rotation. Whatever cooling solution you use just make sure its not too extreme or too sudden as rapid changes in temperature are not great for electronics. That's why I use a paper towel as a bit of a buffer between the phone and the ice pack. Works great for me and I maintain 60 fps all game.