I just have a quick question, there's a store that sells factory unlocked Verizon and Att&T Note 4's and my question is (sounds dumb) are the bootloaders locked as well? I'm looking forward to buying one in April, but if the bootloader is still locked even though it's a factory unlocked device I'm not going to buy it since I want a unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.
Verizon sells a developers edition that has an unlocked bootloader.. i have not heard of Att selling a unlocked bootloader edition.
Their devices(att) are locked up tight like fort knox...
MartyMar_XVII said:
I just have a quick question, there's a store that sells factory unlocked Verizon and Att&T Note 4's and my question is (sounds dumb) are the bootloaders locked as well? I'm looking forward to buying one in April, but if the bootloader is still locked even though it's a factory unlocked device I'm not going to buy it since I want a unlocked bootloader for obvious reasons.
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There is a Developer Edition note 4 with unlocked bootloader, I don't know about those variants though...I guess their bootloader is locked...
Flashvetrin said:
Verizon sells a developers edition that has an unlocked bootloader.. i have not heard of Att selling a unlocked bootloader edition.
Their devices(att) are locked up tight like fort knox...
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Ashatar said:
There is a Developer Edition note 4 with unlocked bootloader, I don't know about those variants though...I guess their bootloader is locked...
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That's the thing that gets me and I don't think the store owner knows of the developer editions. I asked him and he hasn't replied to me, lol.
MartyMar_XVII said:
That's the thing that gets me and I don't think the store owner knows of the developer editions. I asked him and he hasn't replied to me, lol.
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Try searching some others stores, there are probably many in New York
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Try searching some others stores, there are probably many in New York
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I am, the store owner just replied, he told me it isn't the developers edition but it's factory unlocked most likely just for getting g other carriers, oh well.
MartyMar_XVII said:
I am, the store owner just replied, he told me it isn't the developers edition but it's factory unlocked most likely just for getting g other carriers, oh well.
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Well then, good luck finding the dev edition.
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Well then, good luck finding the dev edition.
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Thanks I'm going to need it, lol. I've dealt with a bootloader locked device the LGL70 for metro pcs, for about a week or so then someone unlocked the bootloader and boy was I excited, lol. Apparently in the Verizon Note 4 section there's progress. Knowing how I am I'm just going to get the Verizon Note 4 and just wait only because the store who's selling it can give it to me on an monthly payment plan. I can't really afford to dish out the money for the dev edition.
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Hey guys i'm in the process of trading an old iphone for a unlocked version of the Nexus 4 and I was wondering if there's any way i can tell if the phone is unlocked?
When you turn it on you'll see a padlock if it's unlocked...
EddyOS said:
When you turn it on you'll see a padlock if it's unlocked...
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Ok perfect, thank you!
The padlock shows you the state of the bootloader, which can be freely locked/unlocked and would have no bearing on whether or not you purchase this phone. So I assume you're actually asking about sim lock, which is also not an issue as all N4's are unlocked
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When you turn it on you'll see a padlock if it's unlocked...
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LOL. I don't think that's what he meant by unlocked.
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Yeah they're all unlocked, you can't buy a locked nexus 4 lol
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LOL. I don't think that's what he meant by unlocked.
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In which case the OP needs to clarify their question
igooner14 said:
Hey guys i'm in the process of trading an old iphone for a unlocked version of the Nexus 4 and I was wondering if there's any way i can tell if the phone is unlocked?
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All the Nexus 4 are unlocked. You're safe.
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I'm sorry guys I just looked at the original question I asked and didn't post it correctly, sorry about the confusion. I was referring to carrier lock, I had no idea at that all N4's came unlocked. Anyways sorry for the confusion thank you guys for clarifying that issue for me.
Another thing to keep in mind is that some phones maybe reported lost or stolen and therefore blocked from any network in the U.S
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crachel said:
[snip] So I assume you're actually asking about sim lock, which is also not an issue as all N4's are unlocked
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username8611 said:
Yeah they're all unlocked, you can't buy a locked nexus 4 lol
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lolbazor said:
All the Nexus 4 are unlocked. You're safe.
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Are we sure about this guys?
People were saying exactly the same thing about the Galaxy Nexus, but there were some sold that were SIM-locked. (It was a few European carriers that were selling them locked... think it was Orange, Vodafone and maybe another.)
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Are we sure about this guys?
People were saying exactly the same thing about the Galaxy Nexus, but there were some sold that were SIM-locked. (It was a few European carriers that were selling them locked... think it was Orange, Vodafone and maybe another.)
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All Nexus 4s are GSM unlocked. (I hope I'm not wrong. ) When you get the phone, pop in your Sim and see if you are able to make calls and such. You may have to do a reboot when you first pop in the Sim card.
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All Nexus 4s are GSM unlocked. (I hope I'm not wrong. ) When you get the phone, pop in your Sim and see if you are able to make calls and such. You may have to do a reboot when you first pop in the Sim card.
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As I said before: people were saying the same thing about GSM Galaxy Nexus devices. Then we found out that ones sold by certain carriers were locked. All I'm trying to say is that we can't be sure that any devices sold outside of the Google Play Store are all sold unlocked.
efrant is right; however, some carriers (mostly European) say that it is locked, but in fact, it is unlocked. Same for T-mobile USA Nexus's, some reps will tell you that it's locked, but really, it's unlocked
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efrant is right; however, some carriers (mostly European) say that it is locked, but in fact, it is unlocked. Same for T-mobile USA Nexus's, some reps will tell you that it's locked, but really, it's unlocked
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Yeah, but I'm not talking about clueless sales reps or customer service reps. If a device is sold outside of the Google Play Store, it could very well possibly (not probably) be SIM-locked to that carrier. Proof: here is a thread on how to unlock SIM-locked GSM Galaxy Nexus devices that people bought thinking they were unlocked.
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Yeah, but I'm not talking about clueless sales reps or customer service reps. If a device is sold outside of the Google Play Store, it could very well possibly (not probably) be SIM-locked to that carrier. Proof: here is a thread on how to unlock SIM-locked GSM Galaxy Nexus devices that people bought thinking they were unlocked.
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I'm fairly sure the ones sold in the UK are SIM unlocked. No carrier sells them in Germany, the ones from the couple of retailers are obviously unlocked.
Anyway, seeing that the good efrant is here: shouldn't flashing the stock image remove a (possible) SIM lock..?
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I'm fairly sure the ones sold in the UK are SIM unlocked. No carrier sells them in Germany, the ones from the couple of retailers are obviously unlocked.
Anyway, seeing that the good efrant is here: shouldn't flashing the stock image remove a (possible) SIM lock..?
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Unfortunately no. The lock is stored on a partition not normally flashed by the user, and not included in the factory images from Google.
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so the announcement today said that the 4 major carrier would get the nexus 6 including at&t. now we all know at&t likes to have their bootloaders locked. my question is, do you think at&t would only sell this if google agreed to lock the bootloader on their variant or do you think at&t actually sells a phone that has an unlockable bootloader?
Its a nexus phone. Did Verizon lock the gnex boot loader? No. Att can't really cause its a nexus device
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Its a nexus phone. Did Verizon lock the gnex boot loader? No. Att can't really cause its a nexus device
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i didnt know verizon sold a google nex phone let alone know they couldnt lock the bootloader. hence my question. but if you are right about at&t then that gives me something to think about.
freebee269 said:
i didnt know verizon sold a google nex phone let alone know they couldnt lock the bootloader. hence my question. but if you are right about at&t then that gives me something to think about.
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If AT&T sells this bootloader unlocked I might actually break my vow to never again buy another contract phone from them...after the Note3 debacle I've paid full price for everything since.
The real question is whether there will be carrier bloatware on the carrier Nexus devices.
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The real question is whether there will be carrier bloatware on the carrier Nexus devices.
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That is easily fixed..... i wanna know about scarification of these devices.
AKA branding/Logos
JustusIV said:
That is easily fixed..... i wanna know about scarification of these devices.
AKA branding/Logos
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This^^^
I agree. I would be curious to know if ATT will somehow lock the bootloader. If not then i would buy from them... Otherwise i will buy on google play.
kennonk said:
If AT&T sells this bootloader unlocked I might actually break my vow to never again buy another contract phone from them...after the Note3 debacle I've paid full price for everything since.
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Fully Agree.
Yes the Verizon Gnex had an unlockable bootloader, but at the time most phones on AT&T also had unlockable bootloaders. The Galaxy nexus was before the carriers really started locking stuff down.
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I'm going to buy it from Google and use it on AT&T.
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I'm going to buy it from Google and use it on AT&T.
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Me too. I don't trust AT&T to not load it up with bloatware and a deathstar logo on top of a truly locked bootloader.
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Me too. I don't trust AT&T to not load it up with bloatware and a deathstar logo on top of a truly locked bootloader.
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I don't either, but you could always wait and see.
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Mark another ATT user down for a Play Store version. I needed something to replace my dying/ancient Nexus, and jumped to an One X+ from ATT not realizing it was scarred. Not making that mistake again. And, I'll be glad to have another Nexus in my hands.
--JamesT
I'm also ordering my shamu in pristine android vanilla condition straight from Google, don't trust the galactic empire at&t with his pernicious ways haha
I actually don't mind buying on contract, I doubt AT&T will do anything to it.
But I mean if it's the same phone across all carriers and the same as the play store edition, won't you just be able to replace any bootloader and anything else to function as if you bought it off contract and unlocked? The only thing I'm really concerned about is carrier lock when it comes to OTA updates.
I'm getting mine through Verizon but the discussion is the same.... will there be any difference between the Play Store and carrier versions. I think one of two scenarios will happen.
A. There's no difference, carriers will load them up with bloat. But who cares? If it's completely unlocked you will be easily able to root, wipe, rom, etc....
B. They lock the bootloaders. This would completely crush carrier sales. The majority of people interested in this phone are Android enthusiasts. Google knows that. Google also has to have good sales through the carriers at the new price point. So they likely would not agree to have a locked down Nexus 6 sold through carriers.
I am fairly confident the phones will be identical. This particular SoC, the 805, unlike all the other Qualcomm kits has discreet radio hardware not on the SoC. All of the 800/801 before it and the 808/810 after it have integrated radio hardware. I think this was an intentional agreement that Motorola/Google brokered with Qualcomm/Carriers. This way they can all sell one identical handset but the carriers will only push radio/modem updates to keep things working on their networks, but they will tell us that all software/OS updates will come from Google directly.
This ushers in a new paradigm in that for the first time we will have a truly unlocked device across all carriers and it is set up that way by design so carriers can control radio hardware and Motorola/Google can control the OS.
I'm 100% confident that google will not allow the carriers to modify the phones just like apple with the iPhone.
I plan on walking into my local at&t store to buy the phone, go home and plug it into my computer and type "fastboot OEM unlock"
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I'm 100% confident that google will not allow the carriers to modify the phones just like apple with the iPhone.
I plan on walking into my local at&t store to buy the phone, go home and plug it into my computer and type "fastboot OEM unlock"
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I plan on walking into my local AT&T store and telling them, I pay you enough money in monthly service, and in no way am I signing a new contract or using the "next" plan to lease(pay a fee on top of $15 smartphone fee), so I'l give my money to Google
So if i pay full price for the S6 when it comes out will it have a locked bootloader?
freak69ize said:
So if i pay full price for the S6 when it comes out will it have a locked bootloader?
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If you buy a consumer edition then yes it will. They may or may not not release a developer edition that would have an unlockable boot loader.
freak69ize said:
So if i pay full price for the S6 when it comes out will it have a locked bootloader?
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lmao really? If you buy anything (besides dev ed) at any price (subsidized, financing, full retail) it will be locked for any device it is you purchased. You need to buy a dev ed if available or research on xda to determine which ones are unlockable before you buy it...
If you had to ask this, I assume youre not too familiar with Android and bootloaders in the first place so I'd read up on bootloaders before messing around with it.
I was just on the Verizon Wireless site looking at the new Nexus 6 that was released today and it prompted a live chat with a representative. I decided to go ahead and ask her if the device was locked and if so, did it support Fastboot OEM Unlock. She said went to check with her tech team and they confirmed that it was able to be unlocked with that method. Finally, and unlocked bootloader
Wait till you get the device in your hands
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This is really not surprising in the least
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I'm really hoping that someone who's buying the phone from Verizon soon can confirm on here if this is true for sure. I won't be upgrading for a couple months but I'm really curious!
They'll tell you anything you want to hear to get you to buy something.
"check with her tech team" = going to take a leak in the bathroom....
Lets wait till someone has phone in hand!
The galaxy nexus was, right? Is Verizon even getting a unique part number?
Its fine I wouldn't worry,its a nexus vzw didn't mess with !
I don't know why people assumed verizon nexus would be locked its the same thing as others just has verizon logo on it
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To anyone doubting.. Every single Nexus 6, regardless of where you bought it, will be bootloader unlockable with fastboot oem unlock. End of speculation.
I think the biggest question is will there be an OEM partition filled with a bunch of garbage like the ATT version.
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I think the biggest question is will there be an OEM partition filled with a bunch of garbage like the ATT version.
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Prob but that is easily taken care of..No worried once u root and unlock
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To anyone doubting.. Every single Nexus 6, regardless of where you bought it, will be bootloader unlockable with fastboot oem unlock. End of speculation.
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I hope this is true! Where did you get your information?
I'll have mine next Tuesday or Wednesday. Can't wait to drop the Note 3.
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misterpyrrhuloxia said:
I hope this is true! Where did you get your information?
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It's a Nexus. Google has said multiple times that their phones will never be locked down
I bet it will be sim locked like ATT though.
Peylix said:
I bet it will be sim locked like ATT though.
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All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked.
catcher8587 said:
All Verizon LTE phones come SIM unlocked.
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Never knew this. So it seems VZW is the lesser of the two evils other than taking a decade to launch the device.
misterpyrrhuloxia said:
I hope this is true! Where did you get your information?
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DubleJayJ said:
It's a Nexus. Google has said multiple times that their phones will never be locked down
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What he said. A Nexus is a Nexus and will always have an easy unlockable bootloader. I've been tinkering with Androids for many years and this one is written in stone, Verion can do nothing to change it.
I should find out by Thursday.
All verizon lte phones are sim unlocked and usually have global bands. ATT is the absolute worst carrier.
Hi I am wondering if i purchased a gs8 outright will tmobile unlock the bootloaded for me?
Lol no... They will unlock the sim at 45 days of service
Ah thanks. It seems pretty ****ty that even though you pay for a phone outright they do not want you to do what you want on it. That should be illegal lol
Sad but true. You could have had better luck if you got the Verizon or even the AT&T version instead. Spending 5 minutes by googling each carriers sim unlock policy could have given you all the answers beforehand. Our country and cell phone providers are extremely shady regarding sim unlocking our phones
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Hi I am wondering if i purchased a gs8 outright will tmobile unlock the bootloaded for me?
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You have to buy the Exynos version. I've imported phones in the past to do stuff like that. Got three Motorola phones from other countries, via eBay and other sources -- running them on AT&T, bootloader unlocked. $700 each for the first two.
He said unlock the bootloader not sim unlock big difference there.
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He said unlock the bootloader not sim unlock big difference there.
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Of course but anyone smart enough to post a thread all by themselves has to know these are never going to have the bootloader unlocked so its safe to assume he meant sim unlock instead. Who contacts the cell phone provider to unlock the bootloader? The carrier at best can sim unlock it they dont even know a bootloader. Samsung reps dont even have a clue if you asked them. Everybody who cares about the boot loaders already knows the status
Nah i know the difference. I just figured i'd ask about it lol
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Nah i know the difference. I just figured i'd ask about it lol
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Good to know
If you're going to answer questions like a jerk don't answer them.
Of course but anyone smart enough to post a thread all by themselves has to know these are never going to have the bootloader unlocked so its safe to assume he meant sim unlock instead. Who contacts the cell phone provider to unlock the bootloader? The carrier at best can sim unlock it they dont even know a bootloader. Samsung reps dont even have a clue if you asked them. Everybody who cares about the boot loaders already knows the status
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Everybody who knows anything learned it from an external source. There are that are bootloader locked until the phone is paid off then it is both SIM and bootloader and lot but only for selected phones. Not all but some. The Google Pixel is a good example of that. You can pay it off completely and in x days unlock the bootloader. The OP probably heard something along these lines and wondered if this courtesy was available for its phone. Unfortunately it's not for the T-Mobile variant and maybe others but I don't know about them. I also am waiting for a policy change that maybe we're allowed to get into the phones that we fully own. One last thing everyone is as smart as every teacher allowed them to be.