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Before I start I want yo say that this is not solo for the AT&T version, but any version and I would like to hear it from you guys, opinions fears and hopes.
Leme be the first on this post that says I'm going to get this baby. why? I'm interested I'm the docks as its being a smartphone feature I've personally being expecting the most as I see a promising future. I know this may be the first but won't be the last and hopefully becomes a common feature with the time that will be considered rather useful with increasing smartphone technology.
What I fear is how thigh Motorola plans on closing the bootloader... only allowing little development for the phone.
My hopes are that Motorola in plans on cleaning their reputation will find (or has found) a way to get them both(security and openness) walking together down the same road
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tegra 2 chip, 1GB ram, qHD display, finger print sensor, 1950 mHA battery, this is just a few down the list. I will buy this sucker, my first ever Android and Motorola experience
In my opinion, its the best Android to come out on AT&T which I am currently happy with. I bought just the phone and got a great price. Coming from an iPhone 4 and anxious to try out Android finally.
Aside from the obvious reasons to buy the Atrix, I am a Motorola two-way radio technician and I constantly get asked by my customers as to why I don't carry a "Droid". Well for one, I don't like the way CDMA sounds compared to GSM and two, I get a 15% discount with at&t that I can't get with any other carrier.
Since at&t works very well in the areas I need service, I've got no reason to switch.
I will be getting the Atrix.
Im living in Europe and for me its presently a decision between the LG Optimus 2X or the Motorola Atrix 4G.
And at the moment I am more or less solo considering the Atrix, but I will only get the Atrix provided:
1: It can get root (Done)
2: Its bootloader is not locked
2a: Or in the case that it is locked, that the lock is broken by the time I want to get it.
Thats really what it all comes down to for me at this point. I dont want to pay several 100 dollars for a damned phone that I am not "allowed" to mess with "for my own safety". What a load of crap really.
If those 2 things I listed get cleared up come April, then I am getting the Atrix . And if not then I am getting the LG instead. Its that simple really...
Why not buy it? The best phone in the market now, man!
tuantuti said:
tegra 2 chip, 1GB ram, qHD display, finger print sensor, 1950 mHA battery, this is just a few down the list. I will buy this sucker, my first ever Android and Motorola experience
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Same here, although I did own a razr back in the day. Great specs on this device.
This was a simple choice for me. Finally a good android phone on my carrier and I'm up for a equipment discount. I'm glad I waited the few extra months.
Does anyone know if the Nvidia app store will be on the Atrix? I know I saw a video on it but I have not seen it reviewed in any of the videos I've seen for the Atrix on youtube.
Yes I am getting it, and the efuse doesn't bother me at all. The specs of the phone are great and I really don't have a problem with stock.
It will make a nice upgrade from my Nexus One
I know people wish upon this few things that they can't have. But this will make a great phone until next year.
I have a nexus one, so this really is a resolution upgrade for me since my N1 is pentile as well.
The N1 has horrible battery life compared to the Atrix, and the touch sensor is garbage. So these two things alone will make make my usage of the phone better.
Non proprietary HDMI and USB ports are much nicer than the $50 cable Samsung wants to charge.
I despise AT&T for disabling HSUPA, and this really make it not a 4G phone, but T-Mobile sucks here and Sprint has nothing interesting. We're getting LTE this year so next year I may consider Verizon.
For now, this Atrix is a pretty good thing for me.
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for geadget lovers,
this is a stand out phone , because of the docks. maybe in the future more modal phones/comps will be on the market. So as the first (beside the foleo) the atrix has to be in the personal collection or history (similar to the Nokia 8110, Ericcson r520m, SE T68, Nokia N95, iPhone 2G and some others). I tell you, sometimes you will look back, and maybe the atrix will be one of your phones you will remember, the docks pricey or not will make the difference.
... my two cents, still remember my r520m (bluetooth gprs tether, year 2000)
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Just ordered mine.....my birthday is the 23rd so my Awsome GF is buying it for me.
Yes. I was wary foe a while, jumping between this and the Galaxy S 2.
Dual core, 1 gig DDR 2 RAM, great battery, high resolution sscreen.
Mainly for.the speed. I also just picked up 250 so I might look into a dock as well for when im on the computer.
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Yes. I was wary for a while, jumping between this and the Galaxy S 2.
Dual core, 1 gig DDR 2 RAM, great battery, high resolution sscreen.
Mainly for.the speed. I also just picked up 250 so I might look into a dock as well for when im on the computer.
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If they crack the bootloader come April then I am getting the Atrix, otherwise I will be getting the LG.
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Does anyone know if the Nvidia app store will be on the Atrix? I know I saw a video on it but I have not seen it reviewed in any of the videos I've seen for the Atrix on youtube.
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I just did a google search for Tegra Zone and their site says it is coming soon.
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on Ebay
I've never sold a phone on ebay before so I have a few questions.
1. I got this phone on a subsidized price and it seems like I can sell it for more. I have a different line on the family plan that is eligible for an upgrade. If I were to transfer that upgrade to myself and get a new phone, Verizon shouldn't penalize me for deactivating and selling the phone, right?
2. When the phone sells, I suppose everything goes, including the SIM card?
3. What is a good popular replacement android that has the same or greater processing power and battery life comparable to using an extended battery on this phone. (Correct me if I am wrong but it seems that data is 30 bucks for either 3g or 4g phones, right?)
Sorry. but just one question.
Why ?
Why would you sell this phone, now that Gingerbread has just come out and its the only real option over a BlackBerry.
Anyways, I imported my Droid Pro and bought if off a private seller like you on Ebay. You will have the best chances to sell it if ...
1) Get the Unlock code of Verizon: Tell them you are travelling overseas for a long time and would like to use it with a foreign SIM. And make that a central point in your item description.
2) Make it available to foreign customers: Unlike as in the US, in Europe, people are crazy for this phone. Foreign customers may give you more headache, but for Europeans, a strong Euro means everything bought from the US is really cheap. That means you can get your premium return, while the buyer is still happy.
3) Take loads of pictures of the phone: Be honest with the customer, how long have u been using it, any scratches etc .
4) Be open to offers: The way I got my phone was get in touch with a seller who didn't have any other bids yet and was willing to do a buy-it-now.
I guess that should be the best way to get your phone sold, but really, think about it.. its an amazing phone and is getting a lot of love at the moment from Motorola and Verizon.
Honestly, I love the phone.
I was only thinking of getting another android phone for a few reasons.
I am not too pleased with how small the Droid Pro community is compared to many other more popular android phones. I don't really wish to mess around with Roms just yet but I would like the opportunity to have some different flavors available. That said, I have not yet tried the official gingerbread.
I am not too pleased with the small screen. I honestly thought that it was big enough when I bought it, but now I think I might be better off with something a little bigger especially seeing that certain apps aren't quite geared toward the resolution the phone is running in e.g. DialerOne.
Finally, I thought that I could just get on a cycle of selling my subsidized phones and essentially upgrading for free so that I could potentially always have a "next-gen" phone without paying anything. Of course, that would mean that I should find a phone as good or better than this.
Thanks for your tips
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Honestly, I love the phone.
I was only thinking of getting another android phone for a few reasons.
I am not too pleased with how small the Droid Pro community is compared to many other more popular android phones. I don't really wish to mess around with Roms just yet but I would like the opportunity to have some different flavors available. That said, I have not yet tried the official gingerbread.
I am not too pleased with the small screen. I honestly thought that it was big enough when I bought it, but now I think I might be better off with something a little bigger especially seeing that certain apps aren't quite geared toward the resolution the phone is running in e.g. DialerOne.
Finally, I thought that I could just get on a cycle of selling my subsidized phones and essentially upgrading for free so that I could potentially always have a "next-gen" phone without paying anything. Of course, that would mean that I should find a phone as good or better than this.
Thanks for your tips
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As a Droid Incredible owner trolling in this forum, I have attempted to make people talk a lil more about the phone. This is a very good phone aimed more for business minded people (there are regular users of it too). Those people that have it were only waiting for Gingerbread to arrive, which it has. Don't be so down on the phone.
I have tried contacting a couple of the original Fission Rom guys to see what can be done for you guys as far as this new update goes. May not be promising but keep your fingers crossed.
Yeah I am also thinking of selling this Motorola phone for a few reasons.
1. The screen is too small, the resolution is too low and it has too much bezel / is recessed too much inside the phone.
2. There is no hardware camera button to take a picture on a phone with more keys than any of the other phones you produce. I mean come the **** on Motorola, you want to reach bankruptcy again I see.
3. Battery life is very poor if you're using the standard battery.
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Yeah I am also thinking of selling this Motorola phone for a few reasons.
1. The screen is too small, the resolution is too low and it has too much bezel / is recessed too much inside the phone.
2. There is no hardware camera button to take a picture on a phone with more keys than any of the other phones you produce. I mean come the **** on Motorola, you want to reach bankruptcy again I see.
3. Battery life is very poor if you're using the standard battery.
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Battery life with the extended battery is pretty piss poor too. The gingerbread update did help a bit though...the gingerbread update did fix a bunch of bugs that killed the pro.
The lack of hardware buttons is a huge negative as well. As for the screen, imo you can't really tell until you set your phone next to a droid or something with much higher pixel density. Other than that, if you compare the screen with a blackberry, it's much bigger and more usable.
I'm still on the fence on picking this or the HTC One. So what was the selling point of the S4 to you that made you leave your HTC device behind? I seem to change my mind once a day. I had both phones at one point in my cart ready to pull the trigger but just can't decide.
I had the HTC One, got it on release, I returned it and got the SGS4 and am sooooo glad I did. I don't know if I had a dud or what but I wasn't getting strong LTE Signals with the One that I had with my SGS3, got the 4 and I have ZERO issues! Also, the no removable battery and no sd slot really bothered me with The One.
I'm coming from the 3vo and after 4 HTC devices in a row, it was time to make the switch to a phone which will get timely OS and "fix" updates as well as immediate source code drops.....something HTC has never done. I also wanted removable storage and battery.
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I'm coming from the 3vo and after 4 HTC devices in a row, it was time to make the switch to a phone which will get timely OS and "fix" updates as well as immediate source code drops.....something HTC has never done. I also wanted removable storage and battery.
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Good to see you here.hopefully I'll have mine wensday
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Good to see you here.hopefully I'll have mine wensday
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You too man! I'll have mine shortly after you. I'm gonna hold off just a bit til a better price appears somewhere. Whether it be Best Buy, radio Shack, Amazon, or even Sprint itself.....someone will have will have it for $199 before June. Seeing some great devs posting in here. Thinking the dev community here as well as the phone itself will be phenomenal.
I was on the fence for a while as well. It seems like to me the most important difference is the speaker on the One. Either way both phones are amazing. I don't think there is a wrong choice.
I came from an EVO 4G LTE. I really wanted to get the One when it was first announced, but when I played with one in the store, it felt too similar to my EVO (size, screen size).
I've never had a non-HTC Android device and thought it would be refreshing to try Samsung out for the next year or so.
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I was on the fence for a while as well. It seems like to me the most important difference is the speaker on the One. Either way both phones are amazing. I don't think there is a wrong choice.
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I don't think the HTC is amazing. Too many sacrifices made for the aluminum. Such as weight, size, slimness, and lack of 5" screen even though it's the larger phone. It might find a small niche group of fans but it's not as premium as the iphone so you're getting the best of nothing.
Been a long time HTC person (started with my mogul), but my EVO LTE wouldn't get 4G at my house while other phones did.
Got the S4 and now I have 4G at home.
As you can tell I have an HTC one. I have had all HTC phones for as long as I can remember, well except for the Palm Pre. I have a Samsung Note 10.1 that I would never give up, I say that because I am not brand loyal.
Here is my take original Evo great phone Samsung couldn't touch it. Evo 3d underwhelming to me probably could have gone with Samsung whatever it was that year and been happier. Evo LTE vs S3 chose the evo for no real reason other than well all my other phones were HTC.
Now HTC one vs S4. Screen size 4.7 vs 5 to me no real difference. OLED vs lcd to my eyes Lcd just looks more realistic. I am an avid photographer and I can't stand the OLED colors. I know this can be adjusted to some degree but I still prefer Lcd. Cameras as I said I am a photographer and if there is a chance I am going to take a picture I will have a real camera with me. For the occasional Facebook photo or kid photo either does fine. Build quality polycarbonate vs aluminum, I think the aluminum looks nicer. I don't put cases on my phones so the way it looks is the way it looks.
Functionally the s4 has a lot of cool gimmicks but none of which to me have practical application. Software I will be rooting and installing custom roms on either device so it is not that important.
I chose the one purely on look and feel in my hand. I think either one is really a great phone and you can't go wrong with either.
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As you can tell I have an HTC one. I have had all HTC phones for as long as I can remember, well except for the Palm Pre. I have a Samsung Note 10.1 that I would never give up, I say that because I am not brand loyal.
Here is my take original Evo great phone Samsung couldn't touch it. Evo 3d underwhelming to me probably could have gone with Samsung whatever it was that year and been happier. Evo LTE vs S3 chose the evo for no real reason other than well all my other phones were HTC.
Now HTC one vs S4. Screen size 4.7 vs 5 to me no real difference. OLED vs lcd to my eyes Lcd just looks more realistic. I am an avid photographer and I can't stand the OLED colors. I know this can be adjusted to some degree but I still prefer Lcd. Cameras as I said I am a photographer and if there is a chance I am going to take a picture I will have a real camera with me. For the occasional Facebook photo or kid photo either does fine. Build quality polycarbonate vs aluminum, I think the aluminum looks nicer. I don't put cases on my phones so the way it looks is the way it looks.
Functionally the s4 has a lot of cool gimmicks but none of which to me have practical application. Software I will be rooting and installing custom roms on either device so it is not that important.
I chose the one purely on look and feel in my hand. I think either one is really a great phone and you can't go wrong with either.
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I think this was said just about perfectly. I am in the same situation as you. I have been with HTC since the windows mobile vogue (touch) and have had all the evo's starting with the original. My only brief time without an htc android device was the samsung moment. That experience alone weighed heavily on whether I would ever buy another samsung product. It was complete garbage.
I debated hard on which to choose between the One and the S4. I currently use the evo 4g lte but decided to go with the s4 this time. I like how light the s3 is compared to the evo. I wear a suit to work most days and refuse to use a holster. The Evo lte seems a bit heavy. I love the look and feel of the One but will end up putting it in a case so that makes it almost moot.
A few other deciding factors were the sd card, removable battery and (believe it or not) the location of the power button. That always bothered me with htc phones. I'm still waiting for my costco preordered s4 to arrive. I'm expecting to thoroughly enjoy it but if I don't, I'll exchange it for the One.
We'll see.
I came from an htc evo and evo 3d. So I partially just wanted to try something new but here are the other reasons that I chose the S4:
Removable battery(I usually have a phone for 2 years and I had to replace the battery in my evo 3d after about a year and a half)
Fast wall charger
GG3(never use screen protectors and have never had a scratch on any of my phones)
Larger Battery
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You too man! I'll have mine shortly after you. I'm gonna hold off just a bit til a better price appears somewhere. Whether it be Best Buy, radio Shack, Amazon, or even Sprint itself.....someone will have will have it for $199 before June. Seeing some great devs posting in here. Thinking the dev community here as well as the phone itself will be phenomenal.
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Yeah I know I'm excited the only thing I'm waiting for is sprint to have it in the store
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I currently have a EvoLTE but after playing with both the One and S4 I decided on the S4. Plus before the S4 even came out in the states it already had a great selection of cases which in my opinion the EvoLTE never had.
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I'm coming from the 3vo and after 4 HTC devices in a row, it was time to make the switch to a phone which will get timely OS and "fix" updates as well as immediate source code drops.....something HTC has never done. I also wanted removable storage and battery.
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I am also a deserter of HTC after 10 years if dedication and countless phones I am jumping ship due to the inability for HTC to ever release a single source code NOR ever a timely update. I am hoping my decision to switch will be concrete before the 14 day return period. Currently I am in a battle with sprint over their 90 day sim unlock policy that I feel is unfair to consumers. The biggest reason I left is due to the lack of a removable battery and no micro sd expansion on the one.
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Yeah I know I'm excited the only thing I'm waiting for is sprint to have it in the store
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I was in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area yesterday and picked mine up at the local store. When I called on a whim expecting them to say it was not available in the stores for another couple weeks boy was I surprised when they told me they had both the white and black in stock. Any who's that's how I got my black mist one.
Well, I decided to go with the HTC One. It came down to price ([email protected] plus $20 gift card) and a few other things but most importantly price. I won't wish this forum good bye yet since I have 14 days to see if I regret my decision, if not I wish you guys the best and although we're not phone brothers we an be Android cousins at the very least.
For those that have a problem with OLED colors being over saturated, you can set the screen to movie mode to dial it down a little. I forgot where I read the article, but if you Google it you might be able to find it. A display firm compared the S4 to the iPhone 5 and said that in movie mode, the color representation was on part with the iPhone.
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You too man! I'll have mine shortly after you. I'm gonna hold off just a bit til a better price appears somewhere. Whether it be Best Buy, radio Shack, Amazon, or even Sprint itself.....someone will have will have it for $199 before June. Seeing some great devs posting in here. Thinking the dev community here as well as the phone itself will be phenomenal.
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I went to my sprint store to get the phone. The sales rep apparently REALLY needed to sell some accessories so he dropped the price of the phone to $199 and sold me the charger and extra battery for my wife's note 2 for $50.
Apparently the reps at corporate stores have the ability to lower the price if they really want to.
I've been using HTC phones for almost 10 years, started with Windows Mobile phones. Sadly I think HTC has lost their way a little bit.
No removable battery, no SD card, and this version of Sense is a trainwreck. I loved my Evo LTE but the battery was a killer just couldn't make it work.
I'm adjusting to Samsung, so far I love the ability to easily root. The hardware is nice but not as polished as the HTC phones. Basically I chose the SUV over the sports car this time.
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I've been using HTC phones for almost 10 years, started with Windows Mobile phones. Sadly I think HTC has lost their way a little bit.
No removable battery, no SD card, and this version of Sense is a trainwreck. I loved my Evo LTE but the battery was a killer just couldn't make it work.
I'm adjusting to Samsung, so far I love the ability to easily root. The hardware is nice but not as polished as the HTC phones. Basically I chose the SUV over the sports car this time.
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+1. I chose the S4 because HTC is going the "IPhone" route as I call it with the non removable battery and no sd card. I am adjusting to the Samsung phone as well but so far so good and the battery is INSANE! I watched a 30 minute video on YouTube and lost 2% on the battery.
Like the thread title says my upgrade is up and i was really excited when samsung revealed it (i watched the livestream even) and now that its a few weeks later im having second thoughts.. Its not what you think either.I am ok with no sdcard and im ok with my phone not being water proof (a silly reason not to buy a phone IMO) Obviously we have no real world reviews yet (most of the early reviews are on demo units and its been posted here they are not optimized like the retail units will be) so i take them with a grain of salt...
My actual thoughts are considering waiting a little bit to see what sony and motorola/lenovo bring to the table for 2015. I am hearing good things about the z4 and lots of crazy rumors about a moto x 2015 flagship or a droid turbo 2.. .. i have to admit i was in love with the moto x sadly not the battery life and i actually owned a droid turbo for a few days till i returned it and got my wife a note 4.. .. its not even the glass back (even though it seems like a poor design idea ) i case and screen protect my phone always ..
I guess overall samsung hasn't made me that excited to use my upgrade to the point im not willing to wait and see what sony and moto have up their sleeve... worse comes to worse the price will have dropped by may/june (most likely when we will know about all the 2015 flagships) It kinda makes me sad that im not all jazzed to buy an s6 this time around
To each his own. I'm eligible for an upgrade as well. Right now I'm still using my SGS3. Going to wait and see what the galaxy s6 Active has to offer. Will be one or the other though. In my opinion Samsung has always has the best phones out there period.
If you value an excellent camera in a phone then both Sony and Motorola are absolutely terrible in that regard (harsh on Sony a bit but, seriously, they deserve to be shot for not knowing how to properly use and optimize a big ass 1/2.3 sensor). I loved the Moto X and I love that it has stock android with a few nifty tricks but - believe it or not - the battery wasn't the main reason I didn't go for it - it was its god-awful excuse for a camera.
Part of my decision is already made because I'm stuck on Sprint - Xperia is it out as is the Droid. The G4 is going to be bigger than the G3, which I had passed on for being too big. Even so, only the Xperia has a shot at having as good a camera as the S6, and fingerprint scanner and wireless charging are huge differentiators for me. Plus, nothing down the pike is going to look as hot or distinctive as the S6 Edge. I've never take cared about looks before, but the S6 Edge fills me with lust.
I am on an s3 atm as well .. my phone should have a "decent" camera (meaning when i send pics to my wife on her note 4 or post them online they look good) my smartphone doesnt need to be a DSLR ( i have a nikon D5300 for the good stuff and a canon for trips etc ) honestly the droid turbo took really good shots it just doesnt have OIS (which would be nice) thyeres actually a thread in the turbo forum with lots of nice pics..
i guess my "dream" flagship phone would be like 5.2 in 2k display screen,decent camera, good battery (at least all day watching videos playing games browsing etc) without quick charging ,805-810 processor m(or equiv) 3-4 gigs of ram (new gen not old)
ATM the closest things (last gen) are the droid turbo and note 4.. so far this year we have had alot of letdowns (m9 gflex 2 etc) i figure worse comes to worse ill buy a turbo or note 4 if the flagships truly disappoint or the 810 overheating throttling issues continue
After all the drama about the M9 having worse display than the M8, overheating, and having worse battery life than the M8, you seriously want to consider the G4 and Z4, both of which will suffer from the same problems as the M9?
Are you crazy?
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Part of my decision is already made because I'm stuck on Sprint - Xperia is it out as is the Droid. .
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same here.. honestly the only reason i keep buying samsung is because of Sprint. would have loved to get the Z3.
the folks running sprint are idiots for not trying to carry more phones.. then they wonder why they are in the last place when it comes to subscribers. i would of switched carriers long ago, but i am not willing to double the payment of my plan and it's just not worth switching solely to get a different brand phone, and overall i am satisfied with the coverage so i guess i'll keep eating samsung phones until the idiots at sprint finally grow some brains.
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same here.. honestly the only reason i keep buying samsung is because of Sprint. would have loved to get the Z3.
the folks running sprint are idiots for not trying to carry more phones.. then they wonder why they are in the last place when it comes to subscribers. i would of switched carriers long ago, but i am not willing to double the payment of my plan and it's just not worth switching solely to get a different brand phone, and overall i am satisfied with the coverage so i guess i'll keep eating samsung phones until the idiots at sprint finally grow some brains.
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There is no other option but Samsung this year. Count your blessings.
I will definitely upgrade to S6. Moto is real good but camera is only average quality everytime, it never got top notch camera. I will also put an eye on upcoming Sony but they delayed the Z4/Z4c/Z4U to Sep(latest leaked info) that would be wait too long, still half year to go....
I will get S6 first and if Sony is real good this time, I may give Z4c a chance later. However, the IMX230 camera in Z4 probably will got better focus because of phase detection focus added but might be still lack of OIS. So, it is a 50/50. S6 focus may loss to Z4 but got OIS to deal with low-light and video stuffs.
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After all the drama about the M9 having worse display than the M8, overheating, and having worse battery life than the M8, you seriously want to consider the G4 and Z4, both of which will suffer from the same problems as the M9?
Are you crazy?
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well seeing as the z4 and motos offerings arent even out yet we dont know do we?? motos flagship will be out late august sept which is plenty of time to either have snapdragon fix their issues or for them to use a different chipset... so far with the z4 and moto all we have is internet speculation and conjecture... call me "crazy" but i prefer to wait until theres more concrete evidence
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Part of my decision is already made because I'm stuck on Sprint - Xperia is it out as is the Droid.
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OT: Why do you say you are stuck on Sprint?.
I actually get okay customer service at Sprint. AT&T and Verizon are absolute a-holes and look to screwing you over any chance they get. TMo's voice is still awful.
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I actually get okay customer service at Sprint. AT&T and Verizon are absolute a-holes and look to screwing you over any chance they get. TMo's voice is still awful.
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i never had a problem with sprint and generally have the same experience. the only thing i hate is lack of diversity of phones. i give sprint much credit as they are the only real company that actually built their entire network, and its greatly improved. att and vzw only became that big because they basically gobbled up a bunch of companies in the early 90s, they didnt build their network, the bells they took over did, anyway a bit OT..
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Like the thread title says my upgrade is up and i was really excited when samsung revealed it (i watched the livestream even) and now that its a few weeks later im having second thoughts.. Its not what you think either.I am ok with no sdcard and im ok with my phone not being water proof (a silly reason not to buy a phone IMO) Obviously we have no real world reviews yet (most of the early reviews are on demo units and its been posted here they are not optimized like the retail units will be) so i take them with a grain of salt...
My actual thoughts are considering waiting a little bit to see what sony and motorola/lenovo bring to the table for 2015. I am hearing good things about the z4 and lots of crazy rumors about a moto x 2015 flagship or a droid turbo 2.. .. i have to admit i was in love with the moto x sadly not the battery life and i actually owned a droid turbo for a few days till i returned it and got my wife a note 4.. .. its not even the glass back (even though it seems like a poor design idea ) i case and screen protect my phone always ..
I guess overall samsung hasn't made me that excited to use my upgrade to the point im not willing to wait and see what sony and moto have up their sleeve... worse comes to worse the price will have dropped by may/june (most likely when we will know about all the 2015 flagships) It kinda makes me sad that im not all jazzed to buy an s6 this time around
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I am almost the same as you...i was 100% to get either s6 or s6 edge but now i am not that sure anymore and to be honest they are expensive especially the edge...the small battery is killing me...and then i also see my brothers Z3 (his first SONY phone and he said he will never have a samsung again) that have a 5h30min of SOT with 35% battery left and i am not that sure anymore...i might wait for Z4 but now the rumors have it it will be released in september and that is a little too long for me. The one phone i am also eagerly awaiting is ZTE NUBIA Z9 (march 26) especially if it will have very small bezels (i like the look of the small bezel phne) and now that i have a NUBIA Z7mini and i am very happy with it i might go for the NUBIA (i was curious to try chinese phone and that phone surprised me) ...the only think that i dont like in Z7mini is battery...and i also like the fact that there are not many of them in my country as for the samsung i think every 2nd person is gona have one...dont know what will happen till 10th of april
I was going to the the Z4, but Sony's mobile division is going down under and is unstable with all their job cuts and them deciding not to focus much on their mobile department. I'd rather be with a company that is more stable and will provide updates on time and be assured my phone can be warranted
Kind of the same.. I do want a S6 but I won't give up the battery life I get on my 6 Plus and go back to the days of worrying about battery life. I want to return to android but won't go backward in battery life. Had a Note 4 and that didn't match my Plus either. Z4 maybe?
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well seeing as the z4 and motos offerings arent even out yet we dont know do we?? motos flagship will be out late august sept which is plenty of time to either have snapdragon fix their issues or for them to use a different chipset... so far with the z4 and moto all we have is internet speculation and conjecture... call me "crazy" but i prefer to wait until theres more concrete evidence
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If you prefer to wait 6 months for a phone, that is your option. Just remember....there will always be something "better" coming out in 6 months. Right now....and for the foreseeable future the s6 will be the best phone on the market.
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If you prefer to wait 6 months for a phone, that is your option. Just remember....there will always be something "better" coming out in 6 months. Right now....and for the foreseeable future the s6 will be the best phone on the market.
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honestly (purely in my own opinion) if i HAD to get a phone now , i would pick the Note 4 over the S6 my wife has it and once you get used to a larger screen (still smaller than a nexus 6) its a really nice phone sd card slot,arguably the best camera on a smartphone,and i enjoy the s pen post its and making stupid doodles on it from time to time.. and games and movies look amazing... and the battery lasts forever (i have watched 2-3 hrs of movies on my wifes, played graphics intensive games like deer hunter and dino hunter and browsed the web etc... ) at about 55% brightness with like 35-40% left at the end of the day.. so if Moto doesnt have anything good out or on the horizon by like june ill probably just get a note 4 or wait for a note 5 (if samsung doesnt mess it up)
While the droid turbo is a great phone, I'd avoid it like the plague. It's basically a verizon exclusive (will be released as the Droid Maxx 2, but not in the US), so any updates will be few and far between. Everyone who bought this phone initially was thinking "moto updates their phones quickly...this will be great!" But quickly realized it's the X,G, and E phones that were released globally that are getting the updates. The turbo is a niche device that verizon has basically already forgotten about.
I only consider purchasing flagship devices from any manufacturer, because I want device support. While I may buy year old flagships, they are still supported way more than niche and newly released mid-range devices.
But, based on what I've seen so far, the S6 is the device to beat this year.
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well seeing as the z4 and motos offerings arent even out yet we dont know do we?? motos flagship will be out late august sept which is plenty of time to either have snapdragon fix their issues or for them to use a different chipset... so far with the z4 and moto all we have is internet speculation and conjecture... call me "crazy" but i prefer to wait until theres more concrete evidence
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All the other flagships this year will use either the 810 or the 815, both of which are manufactured on the same process node technology and have the same exact reference ARM CPU cores.
The only difference is that the 815 will be using a newer GPU.
The 815 will still have the same problems as the 810.
If you want a non-Samsung flagship, I suggest you wait next year around this month and day, as that is when they'll be using the SnapDragon 820, with Qualcomm's own custom CPU cores.
Of course by then, Samsung will also have their custom Exynos CPU and GPU cores.
Next year is going to be REALLY interesting.
I'm looking to change phones. I currently have a rooted HTC One M8 running FluentRom 6.0 (I know there are new versions, but if something's working for me I don't obsess about updating it), have had it for right at 2 years. I love the phone, actually am not tired of it, again I never have really been hung up on always having the newest and flashiest and most updated. However, I use the phone in my job, more specifically I use the camera a lot in my job, and as most people are aware the M8 is shooting a short stick there. So I need to upgrade.
I also use Selectel, a Verizon MVNO. I've toyed with the idea of maybe switching to a GSM carrier, because it's a lot easier to find phones, but I'm sticking with Big Red for now.
I'm looking at the Moto X Style because (a.) it's 16 months newer than the M8; (b.) it's unlocked and will work with Verizon; (c.) it has expandable storage which is an absolute must for me; (d.) it can be rooted although it's pretty close to stock Android, and I might even let it alone to be able to get Google Pay; (e.) rugged cases are available for it, and that's an absolute prerequisite for me, I'm a klutz and know it, and I can't afford to be breaking phones all the time; and (f.) it's reasonably sized, although being of small stature and having especially small hands, this probably is the absolute top end on the size of a phone that I can handle. I'm not interested in the 6P, besides lacking expandable storage it's just too freaking big. I also still wear my phone in a belt pouch, I know that's nerdy and old-fashioned but it just "works" for me, and there's no way I can wear what's practically a tablet on my belt.
So, point blank ... is it still worth buying this phone in 2017, with the expectation of getting a couple of years' use out of it?
My other option is the HTC 10.
No! In hindsight it wasn't worth buying in 2016, nevermind 2017!!
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No! In hindsight it wasn't worth buying in 2016, nevermind 2017!!
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Specifics why? Not looking to be contentious or doubting, just wanting info to make educated decision. Last two phones have been HTC, no issues staying there especially with better camera in 10, just seems like X Style is lot of phone for the money.
For MSRP the Moto G 4 Plus has a better price. 4 GB RAM, snappy as hell CPU, more than passable screen, fingerprint sensor, official Nougat... But as-is this phone is still plenty viable for some time, it truly is a beauty.
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For MSRP the Moto G 4 Plus has a better price. 4 GB RAM, snappy as hell CPU, more than passable screen, fingerprint sensor, official Nougat... But as-is this phone is still plenty viable for some time, it truly is a beauty.
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I don't think Moto G 4 plus will work on Verizon though, unless that situation has changed recently.
I just bought one myself and got it Sat delivery from Amazon. I can't say I'm overly impressed by it but it is a nice device.I too also have a VZW M8 that I put in the drawer for a backup.I will give this Pure a couple weeks and will probably move it to my backup device and use my Moto Z as my daily.
First impressions of the Pure were that it's worthy of a go even though I think Moto is going to abandon it sooner than they are telling everyone.
Nope. It has terrible battery life, no fingerprint scanner. Stock software isn't impressive either.
It's not that bad especially when it's so cheap now. Sure battery life isn't impressive but it gets me through a day without issues.
Got this device 2 months ago when it was on sale
It did indeed met my expectations... However, there are better options out there for the same price. like the LG V10.
Poor battery life and lack of fingerprint scanner are the main disadvantages. Unless you're a fan of Motorola or truly in love with the phone's looks, there are better choices on the market now.
V10 is attractive but is too big. As noted, Moto X Style is probably the absolute top end as far as size that I can handle in a phone. I'd probably do better sizewise with the HTC 10 but was thinking Style offers more bang for buck enough to at least try something a bit larger. Also I never buy new, anything I get will be off Swappa.
prw94 said:
Is this phone still worth buying in 2017?
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Answer: Depends what you are paying for it...
If it's much over $300 or so, nope, not worth it at all... the dated, poorly designed SOC, lack of support from Lenovo, and poor battery life detract too much from the positives.
At $240-$300, maybe worth it if the beautiful display, good camera, and other features offset the negatives for you.
If you can get it for $230-$240 or less, then yeah, it's probably worth it.
That said, MWC2017 starts tomorrow and we fully expect to see at least 5-6 major device announcements, maybe more since there is usually a surprise or two at these events. Look for info on the new Nokia devices and Moto G5 that could be interesting, and we could see other possibilities from HTC, Alcatel, and Huawei.
In other words, unless you need a phone now, I would wait at least a week or two and see what happens.
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I don't think Moto G 4 plus will work on Verizon though, unless that situation has changed recently.
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The G 4 line always worked on Verizon. My dad uses it and Motorola advertise it plenty.
1. Would not pay a penny more than current going Swappa price for a Moto X Style.
2. Research I've done here and elsewhere indicates that G4 line doesn't work consistently on Big Red, it works for some folks, is a nightmare for others who are stuck on 3G.. I'm an "I want it to work right out of the box without having to tweak" guy as far as the basic phone functions, looking for a sure thing.
Basically, I want something with a better camera than the M8, rootable or close to stock Android, with an SD card slot, that is not one micrometer larger than the Moto X Style, again that is absolute, non-negotiable top end on phone size for me, that will work on Big Red's network. With those choices, my options are I know slightly limited.
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1. Would not pay a penny more than current going Swappa price for a Moto X Style.
2. Research I've done here and elsewhere indicates that G4 line doesn't work consistently on Big Red, it works for some folks, is a nightmare for others who are stuck on 3G.. I'm an "I want it to work right out of the box without having to tweak" guy as far as the basic phone functions, looking for a sure thing.
Basically, I want something with a better camera than the M8, rootable or close to stock Android, with an SD card slot, that is not one micrometer larger than the Moto X Style, again that is absolute, non-negotiable top end on phone size for me, that will work on Big Red's network. With those choices, my options are I know slightly limited.
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You pretty much answered your own question. If you need a phone now the Pure/Style is the way to go unless you are willing to look at a carrier branded phone. There are very few phones out that reliably support both GSM and CDMA.
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You pretty much answered your own question. If you need a phone now the Pure/Style is the way to go unless you are willing to look at a carrier branded phone. There are very few phones out that reliably support both GSM and CDMA.
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Leaning that way, although I'm not in need of a phone THIS VERY SECOND so I might hold on a bit longer and just look, basically was seeking input here because community for this phone seems pretty vibrant. As noted I use a Verizon MVNO, I use an MVNO for the same reason I like rooted phones, I'm a control freak and hell will freeze over before I ever sign a phone contract with anyone else, ever again. I'm looking to stick with Big Red in the short term. Could change in the long term. FYI current Swappa prices about 200 for 32 gb, 250 for 64 gb.
I love MXP front stereo speakers.
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Leaning that way, although I'm not in need of a phone THIS VERY SECOND so I might hold on a bit longer and just look, basically was seeking input here because community for this phone seems pretty vibrant. As noted I use a Verizon MVNO, I use an MVNO for the same reason I like rooted phones, I'm a control freak and hell will freeze over before I ever sign a phone contract with anyone else, ever again. I'm looking to stick with Big Red in the short term. Could change in the long term. FYI current Swappa prices about 200 for 32 gb, 250 for 64 gb.
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New prices are only about $50 more than that... Worth it for warranty, and to be honest rooting is of less and less use as Android gets better and better.
Got mines for 200, so for me great phone, I'm actively trying to make a custom kernel (I mad one for the Moto E), but at the moment having big issues getting it to boot so as soon as i figure it out I want to increase battery life. As far as battery life, since owning the phone only 2 weeks i tried many Roms and the only one with decent battery life is Slim 7, coming from a Moto E LTE it was my fav rom also.
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New prices are only about $50 more than that... Worth it for warranty, and to be honest rooting is of less and less use as Android gets better and better.
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Gives me something to consider. Like I said, just looking for input and have gotten a lot. As far as Swappa prices though, in a lot of cases that's including an Otterbox, installed glass screen protector or other accessories. Last three phone purchases have been from there, quite satisfied with the results so I always look there first for deals before trying to buy new.