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T-Mobile released a statement that contracts will not change in a year(when att takes over) as long as you have sign one before then.
http://tinyurl.com/4o46cfb
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That is stupid.
Tmo sold, who do they think they are to dictate that nothing will change ?
Are you really that naive ?
Agreed, don't be so naive.
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That is stupid.
Tmo sold, who do they think they are to dictate that nothing will change ?
Are you really that naive ?
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I have to agree, you shouldn't be so naive. Chances are to avoid any trouble they will honor all existing contracts, but what happens to people that are not in a contract?
What happens to those of us who are month to month? Chances are At&t will force us to switch to a new rate plan and give us a few months to do so before they cut us off completely.
Wow. Such hate for AT&T. I don't get it.
I had been a happy customer of theirs for more than 2 decades (Original AT&T Wireless -> Cingular -> AT&T). My plan from the original ATT Wireless was grandfathered in and survived two corporate takeovers. In other words, I was out of contract more than 10 years ago and they never forced me to upgrade or change.
The only reason I switched to T-Mo is the phone and price. I needed a new plan since I could NOT get data into my grandfathered plan. AT&T had really expensive pricing for data, so we switched.
I am actually looking forward to going back. AT&T service was and is really professional. (Cingular's was NOT).
Disclaimer, I do NOT work for them, and I own no AT&T stock. Just stating my own direct experience.
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AT&T service was and is really professional. (Cingular's was NOT).
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My wife and I have logged many hours with AT&T's support voice menus, scripts, learned the thick accents, and have many of the responses memorized. I get paid quite well by the hour and it insults me why I should pay to get the runaround by thick layers of departments for which AT&T is famous.
I was a happy Cingular customer. AT&T bought them. I left for obvious reasons. Now I'm with Tmobile. My recent experience with AT&T over Uverse (oh what could possibly go wrong...today?) is likely an indicator of what I can expect yet again. It took 6 technicians from AT&T to finally replace a cable of a wrong impedance (I may have an BSEE, but its highly counterproductive talking to scripted tech support who will punish scientific arguments.) No thanks. Can you feel the hate dripping?
The Death Star strikes again. Crushing the rebel forces one by one...
No price change until:
A) you need a new contract
B) you are not under contract
C) when you want to add a feature not included in your contract
D) ATT decides to cancel your current plan and offers you a new plan will less features for the same money.
I agree with the approve poster... there will be a GSM monopoly. GSM is a requisite for all international travelers.
Oh Ma Bell, the irony.
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What happens to those of us who are month to month? Chances are At&t will force us to switch to a new rate plan and give us a few months to do so before they cut us off completely.
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This. My credit sucks. If I think what may happen actually happens, there goes my only chance of actually having service for my beautiful cellphone, unless I go to cricket, which makes me vomit just thinking about using a huawei. Im scared.
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The only reason I switched to T-Mo is the phone and price. I needed a new plan since I could NOT get data into my grandfathered plan. AT&T had really expensive pricing for data, so we switched.
Maybe this is not hate but it sure is not love either. Just saying
Guys, you shouldn't worry about pricing.
1. AT&T may have paid for it, but they don't completely own it until the DOJ and FCC do what they need to do. They can still deny it.
2. AT&T wouldn't be dumb enough to piss off current T-Mobile customers to the point where they cancel their contracts, I mean they did just shell out $25 billion in cash (+ $14 billion in stocks or something) for the company, they wouldn't risk losing all of the profit right away.
Plans will be grandfathered. That's a fact. I've worked for the blue devil and they are good on that note. However how will this affect upcoming android phones? With all their sideloading app crappy. Smh. Sprint may be my last resort. I may work for them but I do loathe them..
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I'm very worried about this. Granted, it may be some time before these changes actually take effect, but I for one do not currently have a contract, and that is the sole reason I switched from at&t to tmo. Now after purchasing 4 phones at full price so that I could keep my cheaper monthly rate, I'm fairly certain that at&t is going to force me to go with one of their plans. I like my unlimited data for 25 bucks a month. Will at&t do that for me? Past experience says a hearty, resounding, "no".
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Well it looks like if you stay with ATT/T-Mobile, you will have to get a new handset due to the AWS spectrum.
http://tinyurl.com/67f7osl
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Mazz35 said:
Well it looks like if you stay with ATT/T-Mobile, you will have to get a new handset due to the AWS spectrum.
http://tinyurl.com/67f7osl
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Not for those of us with Vibrants since they are capable of both AWS spectrums.
AT&T giving a twelve month window for the merger to take place is extremely optimistic. Maybe if the FCC and justice department was put in place by the GOP. We are probably looking at 16-18 months for approval given Ma Bell's monopoly history.
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Guys, you shouldn't worry about pricing.
1. AT&T may have paid for it, but they don't completely own it until the DOJ and FCC do what they need to do. They can still deny it.
2. AT&T wouldn't be dumb enough to piss off current T-Mobile customers to the point where they cancel their contracts, I mean they did just shell out $25 billion in cash (+ $14 billion in stocks or something) for the company, they wouldn't risk losing all of the profit right away.
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AT&T is not so much after the T-Mobile business or customers, it is more desirous of the T-Mobile AWS spectrum. See Confirmed:
AT&T wants to use T-Mobile's AWS spectrum for LTE buildout" over on Engadget. AT&T have proved over and over again they could not care less about customers. So do I think they would be foolish enough to "piss off" T-Mobile customers? Sure in fact many of the T-Mobile current customers have already been "pissed off" by AT&T and are on TMO because of that!
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Not for those of us with Vibrants since they are capable of both AWS spectrums.
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Ok... good to know that. I was a bit worried after reading that.
Mazz35 said:
Well it looks like if you stay with ATT/T-Mobile, you will have to get a new handset due to the AWS spectrum.
http://tinyurl.com/67f7osl
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It does appear to be that way. I had planned on purchasing on upgrade the LG G2X and the new lg tablet but now it is up in the air. What a time for T mobile to spring this. I got away from AT&T 14 years ago(have been with T Mobile the whole time) and do not want their level of service and pricing again. I guess Verizon is about the only choice for me as I certainly do not want Sprint. I wonder if T mobile will continue to roll out some of the new phones from LG one of which is rumored to be Vanilla android, or will this just coast till the deal is completely done.
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Guys, you shouldn't worry about pricing.
1. AT&T may have paid for it, but they don't completely own it until the DOJ and FCC do what they need to do. They can still deny it.
2. AT&T wouldn't be dumb enough to piss off current T-Mobile customers to the point where they cancel their contracts, I mean they did just shell out $25 billion in cash (+ $14 billion in stocks or something) for the company, they wouldn't risk losing all of the profit right away.
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Well, you never know. From my assumption, they only purchased T-Mobile for their 4G towers, they are going to use the existing ones to boost their own 4G LTE network to most of the country (and by most, I mean like 97 percent) including rural areas. Head over to Engadget, what might happen in one year might be interesting.. I am definitely not a fan of AT&T but theoretically their plan seems solid.
Just my ideas on it. Take them as you want..
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I'm just wondering just how long AT&T is going to allow my the TMO unlimited calling, unlimited data, $10 HotSpot plan to stay in force? Debating on riding out existing contract and then updating to Vibrant 4G and re-up before they stick it to me....or maybe that will be too late because it'll already be under AT&Ts BS data contracts.
I was with AT&T for years until they made it clear they could care less if I stayed with them or not. They would offer you the world to switch but if you were already a customer, they wouldn't offer you squat to reup.
The only good news potentially is that TMO has notoriously bad reception in rural areas (in Texas anyway) where AT&T is much better.
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Guys, you shouldn't worry about pricing.
1. AT&T may have paid for it, but they don't completely own it until the DOJ and FCC do what they need to do. They can still deny it.
2. AT&T wouldn't be dumb enough to piss off current T-Mobile customers to the point where they cancel their contracts, I mean they did just shell out $25 billion in cash (+ $14 billion in stocks or something) for the company, they wouldn't risk losing all of the profit right away.
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The USA will approve AT&T's buyout. AT&T says yes when Tmobile says no to unlimited government wiretapping. With Tmobile, they always say, "sorry" when records or access is wanted. The green light for this was long in the works.
I got all excited when the Galaxy Tab was introduced to the world! When it was first revealed it was a tablet/phone hybrid. Totally awesome it was, until it reached the US. Then the ability of making phone calls was taken away from it.
I went into Sprint, T-Mobile, and AT&T to find out "WHY?"..
A few tech individuals spoke with me regarding why the phone capability was stripped from the GTab, it wasn't economically smart to combine two uniquely different devices into one.
The US is BOUND by only four call phone carriers! There REALLY is no competition, it's almost like they have monopolized the market. All of them (except for Sprint) throttles their plans, and charges for every little thing you can imagine.
Why would a US mobile carrier loose money any combine two devices into one. The GTab to operate on their network, you would need a special data plan just for the GTab, which is different from your phone's plan.
Unless the Galaxy Note is released at a third party store like Best Buy or someplace like it, I don't see any of the US carriers taking the GNote under their wings.
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-headed-to-usa-on-att-says-fcc-30184411/
You'll find out down the road if that ends up being true.
You could always buy an international like others have done already.
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http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-headed-to-usa-on-att-says-fcc-30184411/
You'll find out down the road if that ends up being true.
You could always buy an international like others have done already.
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The only problem with that (buying it straight up) is the cost. Many of us can't afford $500 or more for a phablet, no matter how wonderful we think it is. I think AT&T will bring it out sooner or later. I can wait.
I was at an AT&T store yesterday. I was showing the reps my note. I couldn't get my note back because they all wanted to play with it! The Samsung Rep was there, she said it was definetely coming to the U.S. but wouldn't say anything else. Not when or which one, LTE or HSPA+.
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I was at an AT&T store yesterday. I was showing the reps my note. I couldn't get my note back because they all wanted to play with it! The Samsung Rep was there, she said it was definetely coming to the U.S. but wouldn't say anything else. Not when or which one, LTE or HSPA+.
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I don't take any serious any info from an AT&T store
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I don't take any serious any info from an AT&T store
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I don't take speculation from anywhere on the internet
wonsanim said:
I don't take any serious any info from an AT&T store
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Actually. it was the Samsung Rep that said that it was coming to the U.S. She was very tight lipped on everything else. Wouldn't say with who, when, or if it was an LTE or just HSPA+ model.
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I don't take any serious any info from an AT&T store
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Amen to that, 95% of the time we on XDA know way more than them about their own products.
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Actually. it was the Samsung Rep that said that it was coming to the U.S. She was very tight lipped on everything else. Wouldn't say with who, when, or if it was an LTE or just HSPA+ model.
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Well, at least we know that the coming ATT version is not going to be LTE.
reinbeau said:
The only problem with that (buying it straight up) is the cost. Many of us can't afford $500 or more for a phablet, no matter how wonderful we think it is. I think AT&T will bring it out sooner or later. I can wait.
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I totally understand & I pray it doesn't take as long as the SGS2 did to get to USA officially.
well I bought mine internationally for $740 and I'll be saving 1040 in data plan costs over the next 24 months, essentially I made $300 off my import as I see it. I break even at 17 months
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well I bought mine internationally for $740 and I'll be saving 1040 in data plan costs over the next 24 months, essentially I made $300 off my import as I see it. I break even at 17 months
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how does that math work?
SNiiPE_DoGG said:
well I bought mine internationally for $740 and I'll be saving 1040 in data plan costs over the next 24 months, essentially I made $300 off my import as I see it. I break even at 17 months
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Ya, my work pays for my service but I keep buying a new phone every 7 or so months so I never come out ahead. These gadgets are addicting.
RashaMatt said:
how does that math work?
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$10/month unlimited data on an import phone instead of having to pay 45/mo for att's 4gb data plan...
$50 plan
SNiiPE_DoGG said:
$10/month unlimited data on an import phone instead of having to pay 45/mo for att's 4gb data plan...
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I plan on checking out this $50 unlimited prepaid plan at&t has. that way I get voice and 4g on my Note.
I don't want to leave t-mobile and join att over a phone... but that GNote is awesome! I would have to think about switching carriers.
This might be the future of smart phones. The consolidation of tablet to phone.
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I don't want to leave t-mobile and join att over a phone... but that GNote is awesome! I would have to think about switching carriers.
This might be the future of smart phones. The consolidation of tablet to phone.
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I don't want to leave either but that prepaid from at&t is looking good right about now.
I have 2 phones on t-mobile, both on the $30 a month unlim web, 700 min talk
and my bill is $200 a month some times $250 if overages.
And now I see they have a new $49.99 unlim everything plan.
So for the 2 years they got me for $4800+. It's time for a change.
So, while I've 100% decided to finally get a new, better phone (I'm currently using a T-mob G2, albeit on 4.0.4), and I've decided on the Nexus 4, I'm having a hard time deciding where to get it from. I'm hoping the wisdom of the xda userbase can help me make an informed decision.
I've been a T-mobile customer since 1998, and I don't really see myself leaving anytime soon. I'm on a "classic" plan and due for an upgrade, so the 16GB N4 would be $199 (after mail-in rebate), versus $349 from the play store.
Are there *any* differences between the two models? Not hardware-wise, obviously, but software. Will the carrier version be just as easily rootable as the play store version? If I'll definitely be with T-mobile for the life of the contract, without even considering the ETF then, is there any benefit to getting the unlocked version? My G2 is sim-unlocked, but I haven't used that aspect of it at all in the last two years.
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
-John
chinly43 said:
So, while I've 100% decided to finally get a new, better phone (I'm currently using a T-mob G2, albeit on 4.0.4), and I've decided on the Nexus 4, I'm having a hard time deciding where to get it from. I'm hoping the wisdom of the xda userbase can help me make an informed decision.
I've been a T-mobile customer since 1998, and I don't really see myself leaving anytime soon. I'm on a "classic" plan and due for an upgrade, so the 16GB N4 would be $199 (after mail-in rebate), versus $349 from the play store.
Are there *any* differences between the two models? Not hardware-wise, obviously, but software. Will the carrier version be just as easily rootable as the play store version? If I'll definitely be with T-mobile for the life of the contract, without even considering the ETF then, is there any benefit to getting the unlocked version? My G2 is sim-unlocked, but I haven't used that aspect of it at all in the last two years.
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
-John
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Hey John!
They are the SAME exact model. Both are unlocked. The one T-Mobile is selling, is the one directly from the play store, just at a lower on-contract price.
iAndropple said:
Hey John!
They are the SAME exact model. Both are unlocked. The one T-Mobile is selling, is the one directly from the play store, just at a lower on-contract price.
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Thanks for the reply!
When you say the T-mobile one is "unlocked", do you mean completely, or just the bootloader? Not a deal-breaker, just curious.
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Thanks for the reply!
When you say the T-mobile one is "unlocked", do you mean completely, or just the bootloader? Not a deal-breaker, just curious.
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The phone will be carrier/SIM unlocked, even if you buy it from T-Mobile.
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The phone will be carrier/SIM unlocked, even if you buy it from T-Mobile.
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Terrific! So it's just a matter of price, then, which I can certainly figure out myself. Thanks for answering!
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Terrific! So it's just a matter of price, then, which I can certainly figure out myself. Thanks for answering!
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Noo problemmmm
Hey the $199 cost is actually greater than if you simply bought the phone from the playstore or from tmobile for the value plan. The classic plan prices are much greater than the value plan, I would recommend getting the value plan where it will $200 upfront like the classic but you will pay the rest off monthly. Even with this cost added it is significantly cheaper than classic.
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Hey the $199 cost is actually greater than if you simply bought the phone from the playstore or from tmobile for the value plan. The classic plan prices are much greater than the value plan, I would recommend getting the value plan where it will $200 upfront like the classic but you will pay the rest off monthly. Even with this cost added it is significantly cheaper than classic.
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I definitely appreciate the advice, and while what you're saying true for most people, I'm not sure if it applies to me. I'm on a family plan that has different contract-end dates for each line; what I've gathered online, then, is that although I'm past the end of my particular line's contract, because others are not we'd have to pay a $200 "migration fee" to change to the value-type plan, which would be $10/month cheaper. The combined extra $150 from the play store (or $350 from the t-mob store) and $200 fee don't offset the $240 saved with the cheaper bill.
On the other hand, I haven't asked in person at a T-mobile store if I'm getting this all correct, and I could easily be wrong. If anyone knows for sure, they could chime in here to let me know I'm right or wrong!
EDIT: Plus, the rest of the family would then not get discounts on their eventual new phones if they were to want them.
Thread title should be amended:
To be reamed or not to be reamed, that is the question.
And if you have to ask ......
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Thread title should be amended:
To be reamed or not to be reamed, that is the question.
And if you have to ask ......
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Funny, but if you read through, it looks like if I'm planning to stick with the same (family) plan I have right now, it's probably cheaper for me to get it subsidized.
I wonder if you can go into the TMo and see if you can get the phone for the Play Store price.
I'd wait until the 13th and see.
chinly43 said:
So, while I've 100% decided to finally get a new, better phone (I'm currently using a T-mob G2, albeit on 4.0.4), and I've decided on the Nexus 4, I'm having a hard time deciding where to get it from. I'm hoping the wisdom of the xda userbase can help me make an informed decision.
I've been a T-mobile customer since 1998, and I don't really see myself leaving anytime soon. I'm on a "classic" plan and due for an upgrade, so the 16GB N4 would be $199 (after mail-in rebate), versus $349 from the play store.
Are there *any* differences between the two models? Not hardware-wise, obviously, but software. Will the carrier version be just as easily rootable as the play store version? If I'll definitely be with T-mobile for the life of the contract, without even considering the ETF then, is there any benefit to getting the unlocked version? My G2 is sim-unlocked, but I haven't used that aspect of it at all in the last two years.
Thanks for any advice you can give me.
-John
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Just to make sure, that means that we will have access to Google Wallet and everything else if we buy from T-Mobile, right?
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I wonder if you can go into the TMo and see if you can get the phone for the Play Store price.
I'd wait until the 13th and see.
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Doubt it. There wouldn't be a real reason to sell a phone without a contract and discount it down $150. No incentive for the store, T-Mobile, sales reps. etc.
Guys i have a question maybe you guys can answer for me. THis is the first time me and my husband have been with a GSM network and i plan on getting the phone through play store BUT here is my question....
"what are you guys talking about when you mention classic plan and value plan? Does tmobile charge you $200 then the extra a month on a regular upgrade if your available for one? Im so confused and have seen this floating around quit a bit. Does it only apply to this phone or do they do this with every phone? with my past carriers i have been able to get a phone when available for an upgrade at the upgrade price without extra a month so i am just curious as to what all this means?" Can someone please explain this to me lol
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Guys i have a question maybe you guys can answer for me. THis is the first time me and my husband have been with a GSM network and i plan on getting the phone through play store BUT here is my question....
"what are you guys talking about when you mention classic plan and value plan? Does tmobile charge you $200 then the extra a month on a regular upgrade if your available for one? Im so confused and have seen this floating around quit a bit. Does it only apply to this phone or do they do this with every phone? with my past carriers i have been able to get a phone when available for an upgrade at the upgrade price without extra a month so i am just curious as to what all this means?" Can someone please explain this to me lol
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If I am correct, when you purchase the phone under a value plan you pay $200 but then you also pay a monthly amount in addition to your plan until the phone is fully paid off. The monthly amount you pay in addition to the initial 200 will add up to Tmobile's price for the device without a contract. However if you purchase the device under the classic plan, you pay one flat fee for the phone and there is no additional cost to your monthly plan besides the first months upgrade fee ($35 I believe).
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Funny, but if you read through, it looks like if I'm planning to stick with the same (family) plan I have right now, it's probably cheaper for me to get it subsidized.
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If you (and only you) got off your family plan, you could go to StraightTalk (still using T-Mobile's coverage, or AT&T's if you prefer) and pay $45/mo. for unlimited everything. Is that still more expensive than your portion of your family plan costs? Seems unlikely.
Are you guys sure there are no differences? I just read that the T-Mobile version will be using their HSPA+42, while others will be using +21.
Oh wait, the site says 42. I HOPE THERE ARE NO DIFFERENCES because I will be buying it from the Play Store since I am on the poor family plan. Essentially I am saving $250.
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Are you guys sure there are no differences? I just read that the T-Mobile version will be using their HSPA+42, while others will be using +21.
Oh wait, the site says 42. I HOPE THERE ARE NO DIFFERENCES because I will be buying it from the Play Store since I am on the poor family plan. Essentially I am saving $250.
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I am pretty sure there are no differences between the devices! From all the articles I have read they seem to be exactly the same.
Any one know if they will be covered under insurane if bought from the play store? Wondering if the numbers match up so in case of an accident asurion wont weasel out as usual.
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Initial_G said:
I am pretty sure there are no differences between the devices! From all the articles I have read they seem to be exactly the same.
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At first I thought they were the same and then I got confused because I read an article where a guy was mad because only T-mobile was selling it with their contract. Others had to get it thru Google Store. Then he complained that it didnt have LTE and that T-mobile one had HSPA+ 42, while the other only had HSPA+ 21. I dunno. I can't wait!
Ok, so who's spotted the Note 4 yet? Best Buy and Future Shop both list it in their flyer, but you call the store and they don't have a clue
Expansys.ca doesn't have pricing or delivery dates yet.
Anyone else find this elusive beast?
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Ok, so who's spotted the Note 4 yet? Best Buy and Future Shop both list it in their flyer, but you call the store and they don't have a clue
Expansys.ca doesn't have pricing or delivery dates yet.
Anyone else find this elusive beast?
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waiting to it too....i"ve checked through the web...and found that note 4 is sheduled for oct 3...however it probably just for pre-order only......since its expected for mid-october in U.S.. guess it gonna be around the same here too!!!
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waiting to it too....i"ve checked through the web...and found that note 4 is sheduled for oct 3...however it probably just for pre-order only......since its expected for mid-october in U.S.. guess it gonna be around the same here too!!!
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Oct 3rd for Canada? I don't think so. Most of the rest of the world still has it scheduled for mid-October. I think we'll be lucky to get it then.
Futureshop this morning and the guy I spoke to said that they won't even have display models on show until the day before launch - he said they even did that for the iphone 6's.
Hey guys, I work at a telecom company in Canada and we have a launch date for the Gear Live on october 2nd. We usually launch the watch with a smartphone so I am assuming that the release date will be on the 2nd or 3rd.
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Hey guys, I work at a telecom company in Canada and we have a launch date for the Gear Live on october 2nd. We usually launch the watch with a smartphone so I am assuming that the release date will be on the 2nd or 3rd.
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This would be awesome, but still seems like speculation. Crossing my fingers though ?
Just got an email from Expansys.ca about my pre-order... $849 for the Note 4... I think that's too high and I may hold off on it. When US carriers are selling it outright for $649, I just can't bring myself to paying $850.
Has anyone else found better prices?
Well... things escalated quickly.
They said the Note 4 would be shipping no later than this Thursday (Oct 2nd), but when they confirmed my order, it ended up being CDN$933 + shipping and tax, which put it close to $1100. I don't feel that any phone is worth that much. I cancelled my order and will be holding off for now.
Expansys is now showing the pre-order price of 999.99! Way too much!
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Expansys is now showing the pre-order price of 999.99! Way too much!
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That's pretty outrageous. I'm looking back at my Note 2's invoice and I paid $800 form them with express shipping and taxes included - two years ago. There's no justification for such a high price on the Note 4. But I have a feeling that they've artificially inflated that price - once it's in retail stores, they'll drop it quickly. I was just hoping to get it sooner, but not for a few hundred dollars more!
Can we just purchase in the USA and unlock here?
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I strongly suggest you make sure the model supports the LTE frequencies here in Canada.
The canadian model is sm-n910w8 and that's the one to get.
The Expansys one is probably the sm-n910s which is the international model and therefore LTE will be limited and not even work in the USA (AT&T).
Just get one from the big 3 (telus, rogers and bell).
You must get it with a plan but that doesn't matter, just go through with it and cancel 5 seconds after. You will NOT pay cancelling fees. Then you unlock the phone with whatever service you want.
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Just get one from the big 3 (telus, rogers and bell).
You must get it with a plan but that doesn't matter, just go through with it and cancel 5 seconds after. You will NOT pay cancelling fees. Then you unlock the phone with whatever service you want.
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I'm interested in getting the phone outright through Bell. Do you always have to get it with a plan? What a hassle. I'm use to buying unlocked phones, so this makes no sense to me. LOL
gqman69 said:
I strongly suggest you make sure the model supports the LTE frequencies here in Canada.
The canadian model is sm-n910w8 and that's the one to get.
The Expansys one is probably the sm-n910s which is the international model and therefore LTE will be limited and not even work in the USA (AT&T).
Just get one from the big 3 (telus, rogers and bell).
You must get it with a plan but that doesn't matter, just go through with it and cancel 5 seconds after. You will NOT pay cancelling fees. Then you unlock the phone with whatever service you want.
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just be aware.....
in fact the sm-n900a and 900t wich are at&t and T-Mobile variant gonna work perfectly here...my former optimus g pro wich only at&t brought this model in north America was working perfectly on robellus since these carrier are using the same frequency....except for the newly 700mhz here in Canada wich in U.S.A they use already since awhile...personally I"m gonna wait for the 900w8 since they should be invailable in same time...
in fact the T-Mobile variant is even better since it would work on wind and videotron......
EP2008 said:
I'm interested in getting the phone outright through Bell. Do you always have to get it with a plan? What a hassle. I'm use to buying unlocked phones, so this makes no sense to me. LOL
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if you are already with bell...and want to keep your plan...you just have to buy it outright....however if your not with them...you"ll have to go with them with a plan... otherwise they will not sale you the phone...samething with any provider by the way....
zxaz said:
if you are already with bell...and want to keep your plan...you just have to buy it outright....however if your not with them...you"ll have to go with them with a plan... otherwise they will not sale you the phone...samething with any provider by the way....
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I'm with Virgin, but they are basically Bell, so whatever Bell sells will work with Virgin - I really just want to avoid signing up for a plan, cancelling, and all that nonsense. I just want to buy and phone and set it up.
If Bell won't sell the phone, what are my options? Go with an unlocked non-Canadian LTE model?
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I'm with Virgin, but they are basically Bell, so whatever Bell sells will work with Virgin - I really just want to avoid signing up for a plan, cancelling, and all that nonsense. I just want to buy and phone and set it up.
If Bell won't sell the phone, what are my options? Go with an unlocked non-Canadian LTE model?
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virgin didn't sell the note 3...and it gonna probably the same with the note 4....your best bet is either your buy a U.S variant (at&t or tmo) or the Canadians variant 900w8 wich is the same then the 900a (at&t variant) on kijiji ad or ebay.....the us variant gonna cost about the same here with the custom fee and shipping+currency....
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virgin didn't sell the note 3...and it gonna probably the same with the note 4....your best bet is either your buy a U.S variant (at&t or tmo) or the Canadians variant 900w8 wich is the same then the 900a (at&t variant) on kijiji ad or ebay.....the us variant gonna cost about the same here with the custom fee and shipping+currency....
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Hmm. Never heard of getting an AT&T or T-mobile phone from the states and using it up here. I don't really feel comfortable with that, since it would likely be a pain to get warranty service for it, no?
EP2008 said:
Hmm. Never heard of getting an AT&T or T-mobile phone from the states and using it up here. I don't really feel comfortable with that, since it would likely be a pain to get warranty service for it, no?
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if you worry about the warranty issue...then buy a Canadians variant.....my last two phone where u.s variant and didn't have any problem with them....and they where rooted of course....it depend how much your a geek? lolllll
EP2008 said:
I'm with Virgin, but they are basically Bell, so whatever Bell sells will work with Virgin - I really just want to avoid signing up for a plan, cancelling, and all that nonsense. I just want to buy and phone and set it up.
If Bell won't sell the phone, what are my options? Go with an unlocked non-Canadian LTE model?
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I'm also with Virgin and I have a great plan which I don't want to loose.
None of the providers will sell you the Note 4 but like I said, use them, get a plan and cancel it.
Bonus: it kinda pisses them off, I like to tell them to their faces that's what I'm doing.
gqman69 said:
I'm also with Virgin and I have a great plan which I don't want to loose.
None of the providers will sell you the Note 4 but like I said, use them, get a plan and cancel it.
Bonus: it kinda pisses them off, I like to tell them to their faces that's what I'm doing.
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So you go on a month-to-month plan (to get the phone outright), then cancel the plan right on the spot and keep the phone? LOL Do you lose anything? Like an activation fee or your first month payment for the plan?
EP2008 said:
So you go on a month-to-month plan (to get the phone outright), then cancel the plan right on the spot and keep the phone? LOL Do you lose anything? Like an activation fee or your first month payment for the plan?
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Well, there are no activation fees, but yes you will have to pay the first month. It's a small price to pay for getting the phone asap. Also, Telus will sell it for around 900$ and if you think about it, expansys is asking 1000$ + shipping, so it's not really that bad of a hit.
I blame Samsung, I want to give them my money but they don't make it easy.
However, their stunned stupid face, when I unlocked my Note 2 right in front of them while someone was explaining the "plan" is priceless (remember the menu unlock thing...).
Spoke to a Verizon rep randomly today because I was about 10 seconds away from getting out of my EDGE plan and have a competitor buy me out of a contract. I am patient but for the love of god give me something Verizon. This is ridiculous.
Anyway, long story short I happen to get myself a fanatic today. He had a lot more information than any other rep I have spoken to and I have had my fair share of run ins with these clowns. I figured I would give some love back to my community.
I took it for what it was........ Hopefully its true. Sorry for the poor quality, it does the trick though.
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Chat reps know nothing. No matter how convincing they may appear to be.
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I can assure you the N6 was not supposed to launch today for VZW.
thepiombino said:
I can assure you the N6 was not supposed to launch today for VZW.
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And how exactly is this? Lol. We both know the same thing. My title states supposed in some lovely quotation marks so I am not entirely sure where I came off as serious in here lol. All I am saying is that I got a lot more information then I ever have before..... So I shared it.
I have no I idea WTF you're trying to say here.
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I have no I idea WTF you're trying to say here.
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Not sure how you can assure me that it was not supposed to come out today when we both have no information on it lol. That's all I was trying to say............. It clearly did not come out today, maybe we are getting closer... Maybe not. Take the images for what they are my friend. That's all.
kidruk said:
Not sure how you can assure me that it was not supposed to come out today when we both have no information on it lol. That's all I was trying to say............. It clearly did not come out today, maybe we are getting closer... Maybe not. Take the images for what they are my friend. That's all.
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Oh, I see. I can assure you because I work for the company.
thepiombino said:
Oh, I see. I can assure you because I work for the company.
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Oh ok. I am about to give up on the nexus 6 with Verizon man.
If I remember correctly edge is not a contract so you don't have a termination fee, just a payment fee. And from what I heard from T-Mobile, they will only buy out your contract/pay termination fee. They will not pay your edge installment balance off. Just fyi if you did want to eventually leave Verizon while you have Edge installments.
kidruk said:
Oh ok. I am about to give up on the nexus 6 with Verizon man.
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I hear you. I got tired of waiting and purchased from Moto directly, took advantage of their no-interest payments. Sold my G3 to offset some of the costs.
Deekayy said:
If I remember correctly edge is not a contract so you don't have a termination fee, just a payment fee. And from what I heard from T-Mobile, they will only buy out your contract/pay termination fee. They will not pay your edge installment balance off. Just fyi if you did want to eventually leave Verizon while you have Edge installments.
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That's right. What I was going to do was pay 75% of my phone off and get started in a contract so another company can buy me out that way.
kidruk said:
That's right. What I was going to do was pay 75% of my phone off and get started in a contract so another company can buy me out that way.
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That's early edge, meaning that you're recycling into another edge installment. you have to completely pay off your phone if you wanted to leave the service. it looks like what you're trying to do has a slim chance of seeing a glimmer of light lol. all in all, if you do it this way, pay the full amount of the phone you have and sell it at ebay/swappa/cl price. not sure what phone you have but i'm sure you'll be losing a few hundred bucks. sorry buddy, that's the trick of edge, they got you.
kidruk said:
Spoke to a Verizon rep randomly today because I was about 10 seconds away from getting out of my EDGE plan and have a competitor buy me out of a contract. I am patient but for the love of god give me something Verizon. This is ridiculous.
Anyway, long story short I happen to get myself a fanatic today. He had a lot more information than any other rep I have spoken to and I have had my fair share of run ins with these clowns. I figured I would give some love back to my community.
I took it for what it was........ Hopefully its true. Sorry for the poor quality, it does the trick though.
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Lol at that third picture, I'm not entirely convinced you know what "off the record" means.
You can switch over to a 2 year contract. I just went through this with Verizon.
EvanVanVan said:
Lol at that third picture, I'm not entirely convinced you know what "off the record" means.
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Lmaoooo... I tried to make it sound as off the record as it can possibly be. I'm sure all those conversations are monitored.
mysterysauce said:
You can switch over to a 2 year contract. I just went through this with Verizon.
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That's good to know that you can switch over. That also means you just forked over hundreds of dollars (to pay off 75% for a device) to verizon AND bought a new phone under a 2 year agreement plus activation fee. But if you started edge when it first came out, then there's no problem about that since you've been already paying that for that period of time.
Or, are you planning to switch to a different carrier for them to pay ETF?
Deekayy said:
That's good to know that you can switch over. That also means you just forked over hundreds of dollars (to pay off 75% for a device) to verizon AND bought a new phone under a 2 year agreement plus activation fee. But if you started edge when it first came out, then there's no problem about that since you've been already paying that for that period of time.
Or, are you planning to switch to a different carrier for them to pay ETF?
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I'm doing the 2yr contract. Getting the moto x since its free right now with the headphones. With all the fees I'm paying about 90 dollars. Than I'm going to sell them on ebay. To help with the cost of the nexus 6.
Thought I'd mention that on the official Verizon forums I found a post from mid December where a person claimed to have been told January 2nd by a support rep. That gives me hope that it truly will be released eventually.
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VZ extended their exchange period for the holidays until 1/15. I GUARENTEE they won't release it during that time period. Look for it no earlier than 1/16.
I switched the family over to Verizon yesterday and ended up using a iphone 5S IMEI to get my number to activate before popping it in my CW Nexus 6. The rep that was doing the activations said that he has played with a Verizon Nexus 6 during his training. He asked me how I liked it. I did ask him when it would release and he said he wasnt sure, just that the phone was undergoing testing and should release soon.
Only gripe would be that I cant do Data while On a phone call. Was used to this when I was on AT&T and came in handy while on Conf calls and such.