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ChristianJay said:
Nexus 6 on contract with Verizon...
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My contract expired near the end of 2013.
There are no strings on me.
gtdriver0036 said:
My contract expired near the end of 2013.
There are no strings on me.
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Me either. I'm getting a direct-from-Motorola Nexus 6 and have been living month-to-month on a grandfathered Unlimited Data plan since getting my Galaxy S III 2.5 years ago.
As confirmed with a phone rep at Verizon today, for me this will just be a new SIM card and replacing the device on my existing account.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
Me either. I'm getting a direct-from-Motorola Nexus 6 and have been living month-to-month on a grandfathered Unlimited Data plan since getting my Galaxy S III 2.5 years ago.
As confirmed with a phone rep at Verizon today, for me this will just be a new SIM card and replacing the device on my existing account.
- ooofest
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But if you have UDP you want to be on contract. You can use your upgrade and keep UDP.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?
JulesJam said:
But if you have UDP you want to be on contract. You can use your upgrade and keep UDP.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?
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I've seen that writeup before. So much work to get a subsidized rate, but fraught with potential loss of UDP.
There's no reason that I need to be on a contract to retain UDP, from what I've experienced. We easily (and carefully) upgraded my spouse's Galaxy S III to a self-purchased S5 over the holidays at a Verizon store, retaining her UDP without a complication . . . and, I'm going to follow the same route.
- wader
ooofest said:
I've seen that writeup before. So much work to get a subsidized rate, but fraught with potential loss of UDP.
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The risk is small to none if you read the wiki and ask questions before you attempt the methods.
And if you have a TDP or basic line to transfer the upgrade to the risk of losing UDP is ZERO!
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ooofest said:
There's no reason that I need to be on a contract to retain UDP, from what I've experienced.
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Verizon can eliminate UDP at any time even if you are on contract. Being on contract makes it less likely b/c they would have to eat the subsidy. Not so if you are off contract.
The reality is that when Verizon was going to throttle UDP lines, it was only the off contract UDP lines b/c they knew if you complained, they could just cut you loose with no loss financially. Not so if you are off contract.
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ooofest said:
We easily (and carefully) upgraded my spouse's Galaxy S III to a self-purchased S5 over the holidays at a Verizon store, retaining her UDP without a complication . . . and, I'm going to follow the same route.
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Paying full retail for a phone is not using an upgrade. There is NO RISK AT ALL OF LOSING UDP IF YOU PAY FULL RETAIL. No reason to be careful either. You simply cannot lose UDP if you pay full retail unless you are naive enough to do it in a corporate store where the malicious reps will switch you off of UDP for no reason.
Seriously dude, paying full retail is a no brainer. You won't lose UDP if you do that again unless you are naive and do it at a store where a commission based SA can switch you off for no reason to try to get more of a bonus, lol!
JulesJam said:
The risk is small to none if you read the wiki and ask questions before you attempt the methods.
And if you have a TDP or basic line to transfer the upgrade to the risk of losing UDP is ZERO!
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Thanks, I meet all those conditions, but my new phone is arriving tomorrow (new from Motorola) - so, the point is actually moot. Plus, I preferred to get a new SIM from them for this phone, which they said they would easily provide (just as I got for an offline-purchased S5 for my spouse).
JulesJam said:
Verizon can eliminate UDP at any time even if you are on contract. Being on contract makes it less likely b/c they would have to eat the subsidy. Not so if you are off contract
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I've always known that the unlimited data plan would not last forever - if they cut it in the next year and I was otherwise able to use the method you've documented, I'd lose about a year that a 2-year contract would have provided. Not great, but them's the breaks with Big Red, I figure.
JulesJam said:
The reality is that when Verizon was going to throttle UDP lines, it was only the off contract UDP lines b/c they knew if you complained, they could just cut you loose with no loss financially. Not so if you are off contract.
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Fortunately, I haven't been throttled in my experience, unless that just wasn't obvious to me. Although, I honestly don't think they'd care whether I was on a contract or not, in such a case - how they deal with the grandfathered terms is certainly up to them.
In either case, the only effective complaint I could expect to make would be taking my family account and moving it wholesale to another carrier.
Paying full retail for a phone is not using an upgrade. There is NO RISK AT ALL OF LOSING UDP IF YOU PAY FULL RETAIL. No reason to be careful either. You simply cannot lose UDP if you pay full retail unless you are naive enough to do it in a corporate store where the malicious reps will switch you off of UDP for no reason.
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I upgraded my spouse's phone for Christmas in the store, with a friendly Verizon rep, who gave us a new SIM to fit the offline-purchased S5 (vs her old SIM in the S III). I expect the same process to happen for this Nexus 6 on my line and have already spoken to them ahead of time to ensure this model and my plan won't suddenly throw any red flags up in their expectations. To them, it's the same as what easily took 20 minutes in their store 1.5 months ago.
So, I feel our situation is good, thanks.
- wader
Wow my first post prophetically sums up the following posts perfectly. As Roy Batty (Nexus 6) so eloquently said:
"Terrible thing to live in fear..... (of losing unlimited data, lol)...that's what it is to be a slave".
ChristianJay said:
Wow my first post prophetically sums up the following posts perfectly. As Roy Batty (Nexus 6) so eloquently said:
"Terrible thing to live in fear..... (of losing unlimited data, lol)...that's what it is to be a slave".
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Just saving some money for now by buying the phone direct from Motorola - moving away from UPD would cost me an additional $30/month (minimum), for example. I'll easily move back under standard contract with them (for this particular line - other lines in our family are under two-year contracts) when UDP is fully withdrawn or their other plans miraculously become more attractive. Has nothing to do with which phone is on which line, though.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
Plus, I preferred to get a new SIM from them for this phone, which they said they would easily provide (just as I got for an offline-purchased S5 for my spouse).
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You can buy a new SIM card from a Verizon Authorized Retailer for $10 any time you want. Verizon phone reps will mail you a SIM card for free if you tell them you are buying a used phone. Just don't use the automated system to activate it - call and have a rep do it.
ooofest said:
I've always known that the unlimited data plan would not last forever - if they cut it in the next year and I was otherwise able to use the method you've documented, I'd lose about a year that a 2-year contract would have provided. Not great, but them's the breaks with Big Red, I figure.
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I am staying on contract b/c the odds are highest of keeping UDP the longest if you are on contract.
ooofest said:
Fortunately, I haven't been throttled in my experience, unless that just wasn't obvious to me.
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They only throttle if you have a 3G device on your UDP line.
ooofest said:
Although, I honestly don't think they'd care whether I was on a contract or not, in such a case - how they deal with the grandfathered terms is certainly up to them.
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The contract is the same no matter what plan you are on - they can change the terms of your service at any time for any reason. If you are postpaid they have to give you written notice and then you have 60 days to object to the change. If they don't change you back then they have to let you out of your contract w/o an ETF.
If you are off contract, they can change anything they want and you have no contract so there is no penalty to Verizon since you have already paid back the subsidy by completing your contract.
ooofest said:
In either case, the only effective complaint I could expect to make would be taking my family account and moving it wholesale to another carrier.
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If they are going to eliminate UDP then they will have taken that consequence into account when they made the decision to eliminate UDP.
ooofest said:
I upgraded my spouse's phone for Christmas in the store, with a friendly Verizon rep, who gave us a new SIM to fit the offline-purchased S5 (vs her old SIM in the S III). I expect the same process to happen for this Nexus 6 on my line and have already spoken to them ahead of time to ensure this model and my plan won't suddenly throw any red flags up in their expectations. To them, it's the same as what easily took 20 minutes in their store 1.5 months ago.
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Well the issue is the device IMEI being whitelisted. Verizon gives out SIM cards by mail for free, that is a non-issue. And you can buy them from a VAR for $10 no issues.
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ooofest said:
Just saving some money for now by buying the phone direct from Motorola - moving away from UPD would cost me an additional $30/month (minimum), for example.
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You aren't saving any money by buying the phone direct from Motorola. You can buy it subsidized from Verizon using your upgrade very soon and still keep UDP. But if you don't want to wait, you can use your upgrade to flip an iPhone and use the profit to put toward the N6.
http://slickdeals.net/f/6964624-upgrade-and-keep-your-unlimited-data-with-verizon?
JulesJam: I sincerely appreciate that you've come up with a scheme and support forum to help upgrade phones with subsidies and retain UDP with Verizon, but that doesn't mean everyone is equally interested in what you've outlined elsewhere on the matter. Something to keep in mind.
On to some specific items of note.
JulesJam said:
You can buy a new SIM card from a Verizon Authorized Retailer for $10 any time you want.
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I went into a Verizon store today in order to get the official line and they willingly went through the motions to see if they could get my phone a SIM card and into their system, using their standard process. I just wanted to see how they would react and then use that to talk further about how they might accept manufacturer-purchased phones.
Of course, they couldn't at this time because the system didn't recognize my phone's identifier - but, they said the same thing happened with early iPhone 6 purchasers who came into the store, which had to wait until their systems formally accepted their numbers. I've had three Verizon reps tell me that this Motorola-bought phone should be OK to register, so we'll see. But, I'll have to wait a bit for that formality.
I appreciate the information on process to activate, if I did get a card from a retailer.
JulesJam said:
I am staying on contract b/c the odds are highest of keeping UDP the longest if you are on contract.
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Maybe, but as I said, it would be a matter of months lost if that occurred, so I wouldn't cry too much. I know we're living on borrowed time.
JulesJam said:
If you are off contract, they can change anything they want and you have no contract so there is no penalty to Verizon since you have already paid back the subsidy by completing your contract.
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I managed to keep an OLD voice/msg plan for many years beyond its official timeout, only changing when I needed to add a new line. They haven't changed my terms dynamically before, but if they start up with that, oh well.
JulesJam said:
You aren't saving any money by buying the phone direct from Motorola. You can buy it subsidized from Verizon using your upgrade very soon and still keep UDP. But if you don't want to wait, you can use your upgrade to flip an iPhone and use the profit to put toward the N6.
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I'm not into flipping, but thanks. Still, if I did the legwork to get a subsidized phone on UDP, I'm would definitely not want to wonder if I could get a switch order taken off my account, either - our other plan needs have been changing with a growing family. I can see all the work you and others have put into this contribution to others for potential savings, but - compared to moving into a limited data plan with a subsidized Nexus 6 - I'm actually making out better before two years is up from the date of purchasing this phone directly from Motorola (i.e., that's how much I would save on $30/month UDP vs what I would need to switch to for an adequately sized, limited data plan).
And, Verizon just lowered their other plan rates, so I'm taking a new look at their offerings with a subsidized phone. My Nexus 6 just arrived yesterday I've only opened the box to charge and ensure the phone turns out, has no glaring defects, etc. I don't look forward to it, but if I need to sell because their new plan pricing would actually be a better deal per month, I could sell this phone in the next couple of weeks and get a subsidized, is one route to take. But, with limited data. I've got some calculating to do tonight.
- ooofest
I hope they give and activate nano sim for you. I just went through this a week ago and couldn't get sim activated without IMEI of Verizon phone to be used. So I got me friends droid turbo, which uses nano sim, and used its IMEI number to activate sim and put it in my Nexus 6. No problems.
phillywood said:
I hope they give and activate nano sim for you. I just went through this a week ago and couldn't get sim activated without IMEI of Verizon phone to be used. So I got me friends droid turbo, which uses nano sim, and used its IMEI number to activate sim and put it in my Nexus 6. No problems.
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I actually had a followup with them later in the afternoon over the phone - they did some research with their Management, interestingly enough. Since more calls have been coming in for the Nexus 6, this Rep wanted to get up on things.
AFTER they start offering Nexus 6 phones on their network, then they'll add an unaffiliated Nexus 6's information (i.e., IMEI, serial number, etc.) into their own phone database, which will allow it to be recognized for activation. After that, they'll simply go through the standard process to activate, including provision of a new nano-SIM.
When I brought in an independently purchased Galaxy S5 that was already in their database, they easily gave me a new SIM to upgrade the spouse's existing line (from her prior Galaxy S III).
So, if I don't want to purchase a nano SIM from an Authorized Retailer (as suggested earlier) or cut my existing one down to size (it's tempting), it's just a matter of waiting a few weeks to go through the standard registration and activation process for this manufacturer-sold phone.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
JulesJam: I sincerely appreciate that you've come up with a scheme and support forum to help upgrade phones with subsidies and retain UDP with Verizon, but that doesn't mean everyone is equally interested in what you've outlined elsewhere on the matter. Something to keep in mind.
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I didn't come up with the scheme as you call it. Others did. Just spreading the word, and although you may not be interested, many others are. I promise not to mention the "schemes" to you again, lol!
ooofest said:
I managed to keep an OLD voice/msg plan for many years beyond its official timeout, only changing when I needed to add a new line. They haven't changed my terms dynamically before, but if they start up with that, oh well.
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AFAIK, the only legacy plan Verizon has ever d/c'ed is the unlimited international roaming plan.
ooofest said:
I'm not into flipping, but thanks. Still, if I did the legwork to get a subsidized phone on UDP, I'm would definitely not want to wonder if I could get a switch order taken off my account, either
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You mean pending activation. Switch orders are attached to the SIM card when you order from a 3rd party retailer and you get rid of them by destroying the SIM card the phones ship with. When you order through Verizon, no switch order, but there is a pending equipment order. Both pending activations and pending equipment orders have reliably fallen off of everyone's line within about 2 months at the latest. Oh wait, sorry I promised not to talk to you about my "schemes" anymore, lol!
ooofest said:
And, Verizon just lowered their other plan rates
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This is only true for the 1-4GB and 20GB plans. The 10GB plan went up substantially (25%) and the 15GB plan was eliminated and replaced with more expensive 14GB and 16GB plans.
The plan they are now advertising for a family of 4 is $145/mo with 4 smartphones on edge sharing 8GB. Two days ago, you could get 4 smartphones on Edge sharing 10Gb of data for $140/mo. How is $5 more and 2GB less of shared data a price decrease, lol!!!
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ooofest said:
When I brought in an independently purchased Galaxy S5 that was already in their database, they easily gave me a new SIM to upgrade the spouse's existing line (from her prior Galaxy S III).
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Of course they did. Why do you keep repeating this like it is some great feat you pulled off? Verizon gives any current Verizon customer free SIM cards for any phone you want to put on your line as long as the phone is whitelisted. They will mail them to you if you ask and they send them out 2 day shipping for free. In corporate stores they give you one no questions asked but you have to bring the phone in and they activate it for you.
VARs will sell you one for $10.
Don't use the automated system to activate a new SIM card if you have UDP.
JulesJam said:
I didn't come up with the scheme as you call it. Others did. Just spreading the word, and although you may not be interested, many others are. I promise not to mention the "schemes" to you again, lol!
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Say whatever you want, it's a free board.
"Scheme" is an appropriate term, btw: it's a crafty path, a method and way of doing something. If you don't like that terminology, argue with Merriam Webster.
This scheme is "yours" in the sense of it being the one you linked to in this topic and started evangelizing. I see how active you are in that Slickdeals topic and it's obvious you've invested in using the various methods involved. It's as much "yours" in this topic as anyone who contributed to the wiki, obviously.
Further, "spreading the word" doesn't need to include treating me as if I'm doing something wrong by avoiding that scheme - I'm not insulted or amused, just now becoming mildly annoyed at your odd insistence to habitually respond in weird attempts to somehow counter my explanations of why I don't see personal value in trying those methods, as if I should suddenly wake up, see the light and just go along with it all.
Not that you should even care, but I don't cleanly meet the line/phone/upgrade criteria for most of the methods shown that can use Verizon as the path: 4ever, Flying Arrow, Snkydvl, etc. The paths most likely to fit with our account status involve using a third party - hence, the "switch order" reference.
Let's make this clear: you don't know me, my account or what I've read and how many options I researched before determining my current way to get a Nexus 6 on this line - don't assume I need schooling on this. I thanked you for your time and reference, have given you the time of day, but I don't think you should expect anything more in my clarifications.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
Further, "spreading the word" doesn't need to include treating me as if I'm doing something wrong by avoiding that scheme
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I in no way implied you were doing something wrong. Something that I consider foolish, sure, but wrong, no.
ooofest said:
- I'm not insulted or amused, just now becoming mildly annoyed at your odd insistence to habitually respond in weird attempts to somehow counter my explanations of why I don't see personal value in trying those methods, as if I should suddenly wake up, see the light and just go along with it all.
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You are OTT and now I need to shut this conversation down. Ciao!
Good luck with those "lower" data plan prices Verizon is offering, lol!
JulesJam said:
I in no way implied you were doing something wrong. Something that I consider foolish, sure, but wrong, no.
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It seems you have no idea what you actually said, there. And, I'm staying with my UPD - the Rep was apparently offering me discount at the store, not one available online.
Have a great day.
- ooofest
ooofest said:
Have a great day.
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It's night where I live, but ciao to you too!
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With all the horror stories, and rumors going around about TMO saying this and TMO saying that ...
And all the stories about how many returns the HD2 has had ..
I thought I would start a thread to share Customer care Triumphs and Horror Stories ...
The info we share may help someone who needs to deal with them in the future ..
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So Far I have had very good experiences with customer care, the trick is to ask for the smartphone department right off , they seem to actually know what you are asking then ....
It is now Stuck.
I was travelling internationally and wanted my account to be suspended as well as my HD2 to be unlocked.
They did it without any fuss at all! Incredible considering I still have not made the complete payment on the phone! I was hardly with t-mo for 10 days at that time.
And, the CC people were pretty good and (I always use the online chat as I need to call them from out side of the US) they were pretty good on the chat too!
A BIG thumbs up to T-Mobile!
chvvkumar said:
I was travelling internationally and wanted my account to be suspended as well as my HD2 to be unlocked.
They did it without any fuss at all! Incredible considering I still have not made the complete payment on the phone! I was hardly with t-mo for 10 days at that time.
And, the CC people were pretty good and (I always use the online chat as I need to call them from out side of the US) they were pretty good on the chat too!
A BIG thumbs up to T-Mobile!
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Yeah overall TMO has pretty good CSR's ...
Never had any issues with TMO CC. I've always got the best deals available to me.
Best advice I can give to anyone dealing with customer care is be nice and never yell at them. And never act like you are entitled to anything. Also customer service reps can not make android appear on your phone no matter what they tell you.
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Best advice I can give to anyone dealing with customer care is be nice and never yell at them. And never act like you are entitled to anything. Also customer service reps can not make android appear on your phone no matter what they tell you.
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I agree...and they have always been great with me and always did what they could even when it comes to back dating services to save me money! Saving money is always a plus!
My first horror story with T-mobile was and maybe still is..... I have 3 lines with t-mobile my moms,gf and mines I always use my moms upgrades since I always buy my moms S60 unlock devices shes loves Geeky stuff as well. So I got the HD2 with my moms upgrade So after 2 months I notice Data services going up so I called Customer Care telling them why my moms plan was up 25.00 bucks? and they told me she was using a HD2 and I said No I have the Hd2 and I used her upgrade. So there was a big drama where they put a new rule that you cant use another upgrade and use it in another line with out paying the data plan. I was lucky and I got them to lowered the data and change it back to were it was at before and return me the money paid for the data. Now the bad part now I cant Use my moms upgrade anymore to get new High end Phones and im shocked that t-mobile will turn down money and 2 year slavery contract away. The bad part for them Im just going to buy unlock devices with t-mobile 3g and lower my data plan to 5.99 or 10.00 bucks which turns out to be cheaper but I think T-mobile its doing bad having this rule and it all started after the big request of HD2s
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My first horror story with T-mobile was and maybe still is..... I have 3 lines with t-mobile my moms,gf and mines I always use my moms upgrades since I always buy my moms S60 unlock devices shes loves Geeky stuff as well. So I got the HD2 with my moms upgrade So after 2 months I notice Data services going up so I called Customer Care telling them why my moms plan was up 25.00 bucks? and they told me she was using a HD2 and I said No I have the Hd2 and I used her upgrade. So there was a big drama where they put a new rule that you cant use another upgrade and use it in another line with out paying the data plan. I was lucky and I got them to lowered the data and change it back to were it was at before and return me the money paid for the data. Now the bad part now I cant Use my moms upgrade anymore to get new High end Phones and im shocked that t-mobile will turn down money and 2 year slavery contract away. The bad part for them Im just going to buy unlock devices with t-mobile 3g and lower my data plan to 5.99 or 10.00 bucks which turns out to be cheaper but I think T-mobile its doing bad having this rule and it all started after the big request of HD2s
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Weird because I just did the same thing 2 months ago, and have had no issues, they did not give me any hassles .....
Could be the rep screwed up and did not want to admit it too ....
watcher64 said:
Weird because I just did the same thing 2 months ago, and have had no issues, they did not give me any hassles .....
Could be the rep screwed up and did not want to admit it too ....
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I wish thats what it was because I called 3 times after, asking the same question they all told me that it was true.
This pretty much describes my experience with TMobile...great people!!
they will bend over backwards to help me..been with them for 6 yrs now
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This pretty much describes my experience with TMobile...great people!!
they will bend over backwards to help me..been with them for 6 yrs now
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Yep, I have been with them since '03 they blow away other companies as far as customer service goes .... for the most part ....
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I wish thats what it was because I called 3 times after, asking the same question they all told me that it was true.
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I am a 5 yr. T-Mobile employee. And ya its kinda a tough policy that you fell within. You see when you use your upgrade for any smartphone/data device with a 2 yr. contract, a data plan is required for the length of the contract. (same as at&t, verizon, sprint etc.) So in your case you upgraded on Moms line, so Moms line has the contracted data plan, even though you are using it on your line. (I know, trust me it's a somewhat flawed policy that I'm hoping someday will be changed or a little more lenient) There are a few alternatives, instead of having the required data plan you can opt for the cheaper required messaging plan, or there's also a new required phone first data plan (tmobile web/wap) thats a cheap option for symbian S60. You have to have a required feature, but having lower cost choices hopefully helps.
i used to work for at
sherlockpwnz said:
i used to work for at
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Did a a dragon eat you while you were typing?
xxkingpinxx said:
I am a 5 yr. T-Mobile employee. And ya its kinda a tough policy that you fell within. You see when you use your upgrade for any smartphone/data device with a 2 yr. contract, a data plan is required for the length of the contract. (same as at&t, verizon, sprint etc.) So in your case you upgraded on Moms line, so Moms line has the contracted data plan, even though you are using it on your line. (I know, trust me it's a somewhat flawed policy that I'm hoping someday will be changed or a little more lenient) There are a few alternatives, instead of having the required data plan you can opt for the cheaper required messaging plan, or there's also a new required phone first data plan (tmobile web/wap) thats a cheap option for symbian S60. You have to have a required feature, but having lower cost choices hopefully helps.
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I understand T-mobile Needs to make its money but it doesnt make sence I can go Fully unlock on any device pay 10.00 data on every line rather than 25 and I end up saving more money and contract free and the freedom to leave any time I want (not that I am at the moment) I call it some what bad business since If I was in charge I rather have people lock down in this 2 year plans and be my slaves than pushing this 20 25 data cost that as the phone market keeps growing and growing and data plans keeps getting cheaper you wanna have people lock down on two years especially now that people are been more aware of unlock devices. back in 2003 2006 nobody knew what was a unlock device.
I love T-Mobile CC
T-Mobile CC has never given me any problems. In fact, if you have been one of their customer customers for over 5+ years, they acknowledge your commitment and consequently provide special phone deals and options.
LOL
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Did a a dragon eat you while you were typing?
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^LOL. This was hilarious. At&T must have a spider crawling the internet for the mere mention of the word "AT&T" (especially after the recent CEO email / customer relations catastrophe).
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I understand T-mobile Needs to make its money but it doesnt make sence I can go Fully unlock on any device pay 10.00 data on every line rather than 25 and I end up saving more money and contract free and the freedom to leave any time I want (not that I am at the moment) I call it some what bad business since If I was in charge I rather have people lock down in this 2 year plans and be my slaves than pushing this 20 25 data cost that as the phone market keeps growing and growing and data plans keeps getting cheaper you wanna have people lock down on two years especially now that people are been more aware of unlock devices. back in 2003 2006 nobody knew what was a unlock device.
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you can even switch to their even more plus plans if you're willing to pay unsubsidized prices for a phone... saving you even more per month without the need for a contract.
but as long as you choose to receive subsidized handset pricing, you have to have the data plan attached to the phone, as per the contract requirements, so they eventually make up the phone's discount.
tbh, i really dont understand how people still actively choose a contract plan on tmo instead of their non-contract even more plus plans. yes, you pay more upfront since the devices arent subsidized, but you will end up saving money after 2 years. most likely it's because people cant afford the device at full retail price upfront, but the EM+ plans allow for the device's cost to be split up over 20 months without interest.
basically, tmo offers customers a chance to save real money and without a contract, yet most of them actively choose to NOT save money simply because of the lure of the words "discounted price". personally, i think it's hilarious to see people screw themselves.
and i lurve, lurve, lurve my tmo service. i'm a fanboy of very few things, but t-mobile, especially once they started offering the even more plus plans, made me a fan. i have also never had a problem with their CS. they're always polite and i never have a complaint since my bills are always right.
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Hi All,
I am purchasing a Xoom tomorrow morning, and I came to a stark realization today while browsing some other forums. I read that even with the no contract version that there is no true month to month data plan (ie the ATT iPad) and that it costs you $35 every time you want to activate it again. So if I use it for two months, decide to not for two, and then want to use it again, I have to pay a $35 fee. Can someone shed some light on this? I am REALLY hoping this is not the case.
Brock
Please search, this has been answered many times. Your description is correct. If you cancel the 3g service within 72 hours they will refund the activation fee.
I apologize, I did search, apparently not well enough, but that doesn't truly answer my question. I don't mind the initial fee, but will I have to pay it multiple times?
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I apologize, I did search, apparently not well enough, but that doesn't truly answer my question. I don't mind the initial fee, but will I have to pay it multiple times?
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Yes. Verizon isn't as kind with this plan as AT&T is with the iPad's month-to-month usage.
That is absolutely horrible... So basically, if you plan on using ANY data sporadically at all, you are better off getting the subsidized version... This is a bad thing for us consumers. I can't believe they would require reactivation multiple times.
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That is absolutely horrible... So basically, if you plan on using ANY data sporadically at all, you are better off getting the subsidized version... This is a bad thing for us consumers. I can't believe they would require reactivation multiple times.
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It's a shame. I didn't mind getting the 3g version when I thought I could just activate it when I need it, like the iPad. I have a Nexus One I can use as a hotspot in most cases. It's just a kick in the groin to know I'll have to add $35 to the fee if I ever want to use the 3g. In this case, it looks like I'll be turning the 3g off right after I buy it and only activating in case of emergency in the future.
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It's a shame. I didn't mind getting the 3g version when I thought I could just activate it when I need it, like the iPad. I have a Nexus One I can use as a hotspot in most cases. It's just a kick in the groin to know I'll have to add $35 to the fee if I ever want to use the 3g. In this case, it looks like I'll be turning the 3g off right after I buy it and only activating in case of emergency in the future.
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Thats probably what I'd do. But I'd imagine if you made an issue out of having to pay another activation fee (when reconnecting), they would drop it. After all, some money is better than no money.
Wow.. Thanks for the updates guys. I just actually called verizon to confirm this, and yup. This is absolutely horrible.. I hope they change.
This is absolutely insane, and has convinced me to not only not get a Xoom, but to drop Verizon altogether once my contract expires in November. The whole point of getting a tablet off contract is to be able to enable data whenever you want. I probably only have use for the data service 3 months (non-consecutive) out of the year, so this has convinced me to wait for a tablet on a carrier that won't screw me as badly.
Meanwhile, I encourage everyone to complain loudly to Verizon. Let them know you're not going to put up with it.
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This is absolutely insane, and has convinced me to not only not get a Xoom, but to drop Verizon altogether once my contract expires in November. The whole point of getting a tablet off contract is to be able to enable data whenever you want. I probably only have use for the data service 3 months (non-consecutive) out of the year, so this has convinced me to wait for a tablet on a carrier that won't screw me as badly.
Meanwhile, I encourage everyone to complain loudly to Verizon. Let them know you're not going to put up with it.
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yea im also leaving verizon, im trying to go att but my credit is bad and asked for 500 deposit on EACH LINE. so tmobile is what we are looking at now. We are going to switch once we move.
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That is absolutely horrible... So basically, if you plan on using ANY data sporadically at all, you are better off getting the subsidized version... This is a bad thing for us consumers. I can't believe they would require reactivation multiple times.
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Or tether wirelessly with an android phone.
Ingjald said:
This is absolutely insane, and has convinced me to not only not get a Xoom, but to drop Verizon altogether once my contract expires in November. The whole point of getting a tablet off contract is to be able to enable data whenever you want. I probably only have use for the data service 3 months (non-consecutive) out of the year, so this has convinced me to wait for a tablet on a carrier that won't screw me as badly.
Meanwhile, I encourage everyone to complain loudly to Verizon. Let them know you're not going to put up with it.
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I don't believe any carrier for any tablet is going to offer a plan where you pay as you go. And if there is such a plan, I can bet you the price would be something like $5 for 250MB of data, or something that will truly not be worth it
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I don't believe any carrier for any tablet is going to offer a plan where you pay as you go. And if there is such a plan, I can bet you the price would be something like $5 for 250MB of data, or something that will truly not be worth it
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The iPad offers it through AT&T. It's one of the competitive advantages they still hold against all of these new devices.
just to clarify some of vzw policy about activation
kinda thinking about it the wrong way, if you want a data plan it needs a phone number.
that is basically where the fee goes to.
so if you disconnect the data the number is lost.
but per vzw consumer clear disclosure, reactivating within 60 days there is no activation fee. (this would also waive ETFs, if it had one)
to get around this, you can activate a phone.
saving money and not losing the number.
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just to clarify some of vzw policy about activation
kinda thinking about it the wrong way, if you want a data plan it needs a phone number.
that is basically where the fee goes to.
so if you disconnect the data the number is lost.
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When you cancel, wouldn't the number just go into the pool of available numbers? I'm not seeing how this should cost anything. (Also, AT&T doesn't charge an activation fee for the iPad)
but per vzw consumer clear disclosure, reactivating within 60 days there is no activation fee. (this would also waive ETFs, if it had one)
to get around this, you can activate a phone.
saving money and not losing the number.
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It's not exactly clear to me how that would save anything. Not only would that require buying another phone (useless to me), but it would require active service on it, which is, to my knowledge, no less than $40/mo--twice as much as the cheapest data plan.
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When you cancel, wouldn't the number just go into the pool of available numbers? I'm not seeing how this should cost anything. (Also, AT&T doesn't charge an activation fee for the iPad)
It's not exactly clear to me how that would save anything. Not only would that require buying another phone (useless to me), but it would require active service on it, which is, to my knowledge, no less than $40/mo--twice as much as the cheapest data plan.
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it doesn't immediately go back into the pool, thats why you can get it back within 60 days
if you look at where the money goes to its mostly a credit check.
but it's easer to think of it as getting the number
i guess before, i made a few assumptions, that you had a phone (non smartphone so no data requirement). and a family share plan already with vzw.
meaning switching from the data plan to a secondary on the family share plan. only 9.99
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if you look at where the money goes to its mostly a credit check.
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They should just do it prepaid like AT&T does for the iPad, with no credit check (but then I guess Verizon can't ding you for $20 when you go a byte over your allotment). It also doesn't make sense that they do a credit check on someone who is already a customer in good standing.
i guess before, i made a few assumptions, that you had a phone (non smartphone so no data requirement). and a family share plan already with vzw.
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I don't have any other phones and am not on a family share plan. I still wouldn't pay the $9.99/mo just for the privilege of not paying a $35 activation fee; in fact, it would probably cost me about as much as the activation fee anyway.
secondary activations are also $25 instead of $35
so if you, again my assumptions, activate a secondary phone its only 25.
then switch to the xoom and data plan.
just throwing out more ways to save money.
and btw, vzw will never do pay as u go data
i've regularly seen international pay as u go in the thousands.
I just can't believe that verizon would operate like this, esp since att has prepaid data for the iPad.. I'm sorta screwed, I don't have a family plan, and I only have a D1, and afk, xoom can't connect to ad-hoc.. plus it kinda defeats the reason for me getting the 3g Xoom anyway.
with the xoom it is being handled differently than the tab...
the tab was an accessory non subsidized meaning you could just purchase it.
but the xoom has to go through a different order process
needing an account and plan
if you don't have vzw, thats where the fee comes into play
if you do, there are ways to order it with out the fee (by ordering it for your current line, and taking it off afterwards)
I should have posted this two months ago when I found out, but got lazy. The now $30 fee reminded me and I decided I should pass the info along. I had a conversation with:
Handsets, Product Distribution, Business
Brenda Raney
908-559-7518
[email protected]
This conversation was about the NFC blocking but I baited her with a comment and she responded by saying something along the lines of "Unlimited Data would no longer be an option on "Advanced" handsets released later this year (2012). When you upgrade to one of these new "Advanced" (IE Smartphone) you will have to give up your unlimited data plan and pick a paid package."
She would not tell me when it would happen, but said that Verizon was not under any obligation to continue to grandfather people with unlimited data. I fully expect this to happen as soon as Quad Core phones hit the market.
Just one more drop in the bucket. Removing unlimited data packages for new subscribers, removing early upgrades, every two discounts, blocking Google from releasing direct updates for developer devices like the Galaxy Nexus, and now the $30 upgrade fee.
No, I did not record the phone conversation but the removal of grandfathered unlimited data will happen, and sooner then later. Feel free to chalk it up to a rumor if you don't believe me but when it happens, don't say I didn't warn you.
New Verizon devices use Sim cards, welcome to the world of buying off contract devices.
I wonder if this will let you break contract.
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I wonder if this will let you break contract.
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Sounds like it would to me
It seems like something they would do. I think I know there "plan" to get every one off unlimited data.
I have herd some things, but not like this. I think this is about spot on.
Now I will hold on to both of my unlimited data for dear life.
Edit: yes they do throttle 4G and will be doing more and more intill the next iphone and then will pull an AT&T X2. They will likely force you out of unlimited when you upgrade or if you you are on a "old" 4G phone they will throttle you on 4GLTE. I know, becuase I was throttled on 4G and then I stoped using the phone for 3 days, now I am unthrottled and sit at 90+hours of uptime with 2GB of use.
Link to some one who got throttled on 4G:http://www.phonearena.com/news/Is-Verizon-throttling-4G-speeds-too_id22818
Now he did use a crap load of data and I think he got what was coming, but I know when the new iphone with LTE comes out, WE ARE DOOMED. I have a 2nd line with unlimited data on AT&T, thats my back up plan. If not oh well.
Once again Verizon showing how little they care about their customers. From a legal standpoint they could probably do this because when you get a new phone you are under a new contract. But what if you buy the phone from ebay, etc and just add it to your plan. You are still technically under the same contract but they could track ESNs and force your plan to switch.
I hope they don't do this. I just left att after months of looking to take over someones Verizon contract. I found a person with 2 unlimited lines hopefully its not short lived. I really don't want to go to sprint
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New Verizon devices use Sim cards, welcome to the world of buying off contract devices.
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Verizon is CDMA only. The SIM cards are used for LTE, not GSM (a few phones have SIM slots for international GSM, but they're useless while on the Verizon network). So no, there is no buying of unlocked phones from Verizon.
Speaking of this, in China and other Asian countries, CDMA devices have SIM cards called R-UIM cards that work exactly the same way as GSM SIM cards, but CDMA carriers here in the US want to be able to stranglehold you in terms of what kinds of phone you use.
Hopefully Sprint still has unlimited data and their act together when my current contract is up in two years. Verizon charges an arm and a leg for their services and it's not enough? They have to nickel and dime us every step of the way. Aside from decent service I can't say that I feel like I get a whole lot for my money with Verizon. I've just had enough bad experiences with AT&T, and Sprint that I've been afraid to go back to either of them. Maybe it's not so bad these days?
I hope so too, becuase I need a 3rd back up plan and for every one elses sake.
My experience with AT&T has been very good, but I don't think that would be true if I was locked in for 2 years. Sprint has really come up in the last year or so and they seem like they are upgrading fast. (NV and LTE)
Not surprising in the least. Sprint will have to soon end too and remove grandfathered unlimited. Aside from that though, thanks for this update.
I wouldn't read a ton into all this stuff. And I don't know how good of an idea it is to publish someones personal/professional contact info for them on any forum...
I worked with verizon for a while, and on a daily basis I was upgrading phones and allowing customers to keep these 5 or 6 year old alltel rate plans.
It is absolutely correct that verizon can remove unlimited from grandfathered accounts if it wants to, but verizon's course of action with old alltel plans and the like, suggest that it won't happen.
I'm not saying it will or wont happen, all I'm saying is that its definitely possible that they will allow you to keep unlimited data, as long as you are playing nice and not DLing 100 gb's a month on their network.
I love all the misinformation, conjecture, an the posting of a professional email, signs of the derogation of society.
First: Yes VZW is charging an upgade fee. To say everyone is doing it is a cop out. To say that they are loosing money on equipment subsidies is true and the fee helps recap som of the cost while keeping prices competitive even with their own indirect partners.
Second, the only time you can loose a grandfathered plan per contractual agreement is a) older Altel devices that upgrade or change devices because there is no longer an Altel contract. b) you change to a basic (from smart) phone for over 30 days or c) you agree to it.
There are no exceptions to the three listed above. Don't believe me: 1800-922-0204 and ask for the loyalty department.
I love all the verizon fan boys who think they are the best and they would NEVER pull some thing over them like: taking away unlimited data, THROTTLING or the $30 "upgrade" fee.
The contract only lets you keep grandfathered plan's for the lenth of time you signed up for (AKA 2 years) and then They can make you sign a new contract with out unlimited data if you want to upgrade and if you don't upgrade, then they can just take it away.
Why is so easy for me to type this you may ask? Becuase they throttled me at 12Gb and now I can't go over about 10-15gb with out ricking this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCbvDEewcJU&feature=channel&list=UL
P.S I sit at 65GB on AT&T and no throttling. Eat that verizon
I really came in under the wire on this one. I upgraded about three months ago; still have my unlimited data. I never really understood why providers are simply eliminating unlimited plans rather than charging exorbitant amounts of money which plenty of people would pay.
do you expect anything less of Verizon?
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do you expect anything less of Verizon?
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Nope, this is what I think they will do. They are thinking about razing the price up as well to get every one off of it, like AT&T did the $20 unlimited to 30, but with more kick. I have herd every thing from 30 going up to 50, all the way to it replacing the 20GB plan.
Any way: They are going to do some thing soon and well I will just say it's not likely going to be good.
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I love all the misinformation, conjecture, an the posting of a professional email, signs of the derogation of society.
First: Yes VZW is charging an upgade fee. To say everyone is doing it is a cop out. To say that they are loosing money on equipment subsidies is true and the fee helps recap som of the cost while keeping prices competitive even with their own indirect partners.
Second, the only time you can loose a grandfathered plan per contractual agreement is a) older Altel devices that upgrade or change devices because there is no longer an Altel contract. b) you change to a basic (from smart) phone for over 30 days or c) you agree to it.
There are no exceptions to the three listed above. Don't believe me: 1800-922-0204 and ask for the loyalty department.
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Pretty much the exact thing I heard when I called them a few weeks ago. I've been out of a contract for almost 6 years now (just lucky that my phone breaks when they dont have any more and get a free upgrade). I currently have a HTC Trophy with Windows Phone 7 and dont have a newer one because they have not gotten newer WP7 devices, YET.
I called them up and was asking on new devices and presented them with the same question. According to Verizon, I can buy a new Smartphone today, sign a new 2 year agreement and I still will not lose my unlimited data plan according to them.
Of course the day I do it, that will be my first question and will ask for it in writing
As of this moment you are not forced off of your unlimited plan when upgrading phones or switching between current phones
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I wouldn't read a ton into all this stuff. And I don't know how good of an idea it is to publish someones personal/professional contact info for them on any forum...
I worked with verizon for a while, and on a daily basis I was upgrading phones and allowing customers to keep these 5 or 6 year old alltel rate plans.
It is absolutely correct that verizon can remove unlimited from grandfathered accounts if it wants to, but verizon's course of action with old alltel plans and the like, suggest that it won't happen.
I'm not saying it will or wont happen, all I'm saying is that its definitely possible that they will allow you to keep unlimited data, as long as you are playing nice and not DLing 100 gb's a month on their network.
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So it's ok for Verizon to publish her information on their public website, but not for me to copy and paste it from that site to this one? I will edit this post later to provid the direct link to Verizon's corporate PUBLIC website that lists this PUBLIC information. As a "former Verizon employee" you should know all about their public site and what's listed on it. Even if it wasn't Verizon does not respect its customers so I have no respect for their employees at the upper level management.
I will get you that link tomorrow (today really, but later). My nephew is having a bad night teething and is co sleeping next to me so this post is on my device not a pc or I would do it now.
Fyi I have never gone over 5gb on my cell. I don't abuse my unlimited. Oh and I am rooted and can tether for free. Not everyone deserves to be ppunished for the crimes of a few. Wish VZW would figure that out but in reality people abusing unlimited is just an excuse to increase profits, which gets their CEO a bigger bonus. It's all about the money. Corporate Greed.
[Oct. 12 2012 update] Benefits of International Samsung Galaxy S3 for US (AT&T) users
Hello Everyone,
Most of this information is already obvious to many users out there, I just made this information available to some new users who have a few questions about why should we (in US) buy an international phone and not a US branded phone?
1. Price: International phones are less expensive.
Yes International phones are less expensive than carrier branded version (especially AT&T). Please have a look at following calculations.
1.1 Calculation for AT&T 2 Year contract plan for 3GB data usage per month.
Optimistic price of phone = $199.99 + about 7% sales tax + $18 upgrade fee= $232 approx. (EDIT: upgrade fee is $36 now)
Price of Data plan ($30 for 3GB/month) for 24 months = $30*24 = $720
Total cost with 3GB data plan for 24 months = 232+720 = $952.
1.2 Calculation for International GS3 with unlimited data
Cost of phone to me (from Expansys) = $695
Price of Data plan ($10 for unlimited/month) for 24 months = $10*24 = $240
Total cost with unlimited data plan for 24 months = 240+695= $935.
Instructions to get unlimited data is in second post.
So International version is less expensive (952-935) by $17. I know its minimal difference but it breaks the myth that international phones are costlier than AT&T's subsidized versions.
Now here is where it gets interesting. If you are sure that you are going to use this phone on AT&T for next two years then here is one more cool thing that you can do. Upgrade and buy a GS2 skyrocket from Amazon wireless (current price $39 at the time of writing this article) and get into contract for 2 years. Now, sell it off craigslist/ebay for 375-400 and make another 300-350 bucks profit on it. Pros: more profit, Cons: Contract bound2. Freedom: Unbranded international phone
With $17 profit, you get an additional freedom from any contracts. You can switch to any other provider at any time.3. Development Support: Great for International Phone
If you are on XDA, you know that you always want a huge developer support. with likes of chainfire, indie, nitroz and more to join, we know that we are covered.
Quoting the great Entropy512
"LTE is not yet mature and will continue to be a battery hog for at least a year. Everyone who says LTE is awesome seems to be completely oblivious to the fact that even HSPA+ makes it VERY easy to hit your data cap.
2GB RAM so far has little benefit - current devices are doing just fine with 1GB
International S3 development work will be 90% nonportable to the North American mangled carrier variants. If you don't believe me - look at the T989 and I727 forums and compare them to the I9100 forum. Compare the I717 forum to the GT-N7000 forum in terms of development.
This becomes especially obvious when you look at AOSP bringups. Because the international S3 is highly similar to the international S2, the CM9 bringup for that device is progressing rapidly. Meanwhile, the T989/I727/I717 CM9 bringups are still in "alpha" quality stages due to the lack of documentation on Qualcomm SoCs and the lack of commonality with international variants.
This is one of the big keys - North American carriers are highly notorious for long delays with updates. This means that you will not see updates or kernel source for your specific variant for a long time after international variants receive updates. Now, if your carrier variant is highly similar to the international device (SGH-I777 vs. GT-I9100), the international device's kernel source release may be all your need. If your carrier variant has a completely different SoC - you're SOL."
4. Lockdown bootloaders and AT&T Bloatware
AT&T phones have always suffered from this issue. AT&T makes it look like this: they subsidized the price of phone, they own it and therefore they can install apps that we don't want them to.5. Unlimited HSPA+ Data
In this section I speak for just my self and a few friends whom I know. I have stayed in cities that have LTE and also that don't have LTE. 90% of time I am close to wifi. So do I need LTE?
Lets say I am traveling for next 8-10 hours and I would really like to enjoy 'super fast high speed LTE' what do I do? Do I start watching Netflix on my phone? Do I stream HD Youtube for hours? Probably not, because I have data cap. All i would like to do is surf internet, listen to music, watch saved videos (but may be its just me)
HSPA does the job for me. I get 3500-6500 kbps down and 1500pbks upload speeds on HSPA+. It is sufficient for me to even stream videos!
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So here are the steps to get non smart phone data plan for 10 bucks (if you already have unlimited messaging) or 15 bucks if you don't have unlimited messaging.
1. Before yesterday (06/06/2012) I was on 3GB $30 plan.
2. Take the simcard out of your AT&T smartphone and put it in galaxy s3 (or preferably an old AT&T dumb phone)
3. Dial *#06# on your phone and note down the IMEI number. Now, dial 611 (AT&T customer care)
4. Ask operator to switch your data plan to 'non smart phone unlimited data' as since you are not using an at&t smart phone any more.
5. Operator will ask for imei number. Now you have two choices:
5(a): Preferred choice: Get an old AT&T dumb phone and provide the IMEI number from that phone.
5(b): Risky choice: Provide IMEI number from your GS3.
I went with the 5(b) but I do think the 5(a) is a more preferred path because it doesnt make any sense to provide AT&T your IMEI number from the GS3. This way you will have less chanfes of getting your device flagged.
6. For me, she said the IMEI number is showing as an unknown phone so she will add the unlimited non smart phone data plan to it. (If she asked what kind of phone it is just say you have no idea. May be a Samsung phone.)
7. All set. Working unlimited data.
There is no cap on it. And they don't throttle us as well.
Update: As of today (08/06/2012), I am still on unlimited plan. My billing cycle restarted a few days back and I used gigs and gigs in last month
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If you want to verify that this switch worked, log in to your AT&T account and navigate to
myAT&T->Wireless->Manage Features and verify the following:
Edit 1: My APN settings (these were automatically detected by phone, I made no change)
Edit 2: In case you are facing issues with text messaging after switching to unlimited data please have a look at this post:
SlimJ87D said:
I figured out what happen with my SMS. After changing my phone plan, the SMS message center int the settings disappeared. Here is the number everyone should have to have working SMS.
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Edit 3: In case you are facing dropped calls then verify you have correct sim card and checkout this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698511
tomtorre said:
PROBLEM SOLVED:
I just installed the MicroSIM Card I bought on Amazon.com (SKU 73054) and removed the AT&T Furnished iPAD MicroSIM Card (SKU 72288) - the AT&T Tech admitted they gave me the wrong MicroSIM Card - TWICE. Proud to say that I am now getting 3 to 4 Signal Bars in My Basement where I was hardly getting 1 bar before. I highly recommend purchasing the 73054 Card from only ABE-123 on Amazon.com (all others are cut cards) to anyone that may be having Signal Issues. Thank You EVERYBODY for all your help and suggestions
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Edit 4: You can buy international version from expansys USA from the following link:
http://www.expansys-usa.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-android-smartphone-marble-white-unlocked-232311/
PS: I'm not related to Expansys in anyway. I recommend them based upon their great customer service and my experience with them.
Edit 5: In case you wanna know if android system really uses four cores then I just took a short snapshot for you guys.
Edit 6: An early comparison between the two devices.
Edit 7: There was a sweep done on October 4th by AT&T and all of us who had their GS3 IMEI in the system got pushed to 3GB data plan. To fix this have a look here and follow the steps as mentioned.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=32380929
After following this, I'm back on the unlimited plan.
October 4th, 2012 -
October 7th, 2012 -
This is true. What's the point of 4G LTE if my data is capped and limited? I'll be calling 611 later today to say I got a Samsung Flip phone from China.
SlimJ87D said:
This is true. What's the point of 4G LTE if my data is capped and limited? I'll be calling 611 later today to say I got a Samsung Flip phone from China.
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This trick works only on international phones. But it is really amazing.
Thanks for the informative post.
I was all set to get the Int. version to benefit from the unlimited cheaper data plan, etc. But with the launch fiasco I ended up cancelling and will be getting the AT&T variant.
One major factor with going with the US variant is dealing with exchanges/returns/warranty issues. The international has some great benefits but say I get my Int. S3 and have issues off the bat with whatever, the whole process of getting a new one seems like it would be a pita vs walking into an AT&T store and swapping it that day.
MoJoePin said:
Thanks for the informative post.
I was all set to get the Int. version to benefit from the unlimited cheaper data plan, etc. But with the launch fiasco I ended up cancelling and will be getting the AT&T variant.
One major factor with going with the US variant is dealing with exchanges/returns/warranty issues. The international has some great benefits but say I get my Int. S3 and have issues off the bat with whatever, the whole process of getting a new one seems like it would be a pita vs walking into an AT&T store and swapping it that day.
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+1 and also with 2gb vs 1gb of ram makes this a no brainer to me. I'm not worried about the bootloader. I had the Note for a while and it was fine.
ceo.mtcl said:
This trick works only on international phones. But it is really amazing.
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I returned my HOX and moved onto this phone. So they'll still switch it? I guess maybe I should get a Square and Trade warranty too since I was paying 6 dollars a month for an ATT warranty.
MoJoePin said:
Thanks for the informative post.
I was all set to get the Int. version to benefit from the unlimited cheaper data plan, etc. But with the launch fiasco I ended up cancelling and will be getting the AT&T variant.
One major factor with going with the US variant is dealing with exchanges/returns/warranty issues. The international has some great benefits but say I get my Int. S3 and have issues off the bat with whatever, the whole process of getting a new one seems like it would be a pita vs walking into an AT&T store and swapping it that day.
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If you order from a few reputed sellers line expansys or negri, they process the warranty for you. Usually these phones do not have issues though.
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If you order from a few reputed sellers line expansys or negri, they process the warranty for you. Usually these phones do not have issues though.
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I'm sure there will be issues, I've seen things posted already that would have me back in a store for an exchange. From the screen inking, to some with bad batteries, etc. The unrealistic weight we put on tech these days will lead many to at least want an exchange if the littlest things come up. I dont' want to pay $700+ for a device and have to "live" with a little annoyance if I could have just exchanged it easily.
I err on the side of caution, it's better piece of mind IMO knowing I won't have to ship the phone back to the US distributor, then they ship to Samsung International, figure out what's wrong, than I pay out the a$$, then they ship back to the distributor, then the distributor ships back to me. Meanwhile the Galaxy Universe S1 would have launched .
SlimJ87D said:
I returned my HOX and moved onto this phone. So they'll still switch it? I guess maybe I should get a Square and Trade warranty too since I was paying 6 dollars a month for an ATT warranty.
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Yes they will still switch it. I upgraded to sky rocket last Friday and got a $30 data plan on my line and sold it to make money. Once I put the sIm card in gs3 and called, they switched it to unlimited
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Quick question...cant currently afford the sgs3...but would the unlimited data trick work if I put my sim in an old non smartphone Samsung called and used that imei...then after that's done put it back in my smartphone? Or would they detect the imei on smartphone after j put it back in and put me back on a smartphone plan...(I'm stuck with the $15 200mb att plan)
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MoJoePin said:
One major factor with going with the US variant is dealing with exchanges/returns/warranty issues. The international has some great benefits but say I get my Int. S3 and have issues off the bat with whatever, the whole process of getting a new one seems like it would be a pita vs walking into an AT&T store and swapping it that day.
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this is actually why i've been swayed over to buying from brick and mortar stores in the US like ATT/best buy/amazon/etc. the past 2 smartphones i imported i had issues with after the 15-day (yes, 15) exchange window and i was basically screwed. in cases like this i'd have to ship my phone off and be phone-less until the issue was fixed.
those were the first, and last, two phones i'll import for myself. guess what they were? Samsung Galaxy S-i9100 and Samsung Galaxy Nexus. the issue with them? bad displays.
americasteam said:
+1 and also with 2gb vs 1gb of ram makes this a no brainer to me. I'm not worried about the bootloader. I had the Note for a while and it was fine.
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Well, I dont wanna drag 2gb vs 1gb and quad core vs. Dual core here. That is being discussed in another thread. I'm assuming that both the phones will perform almost similar.
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mrvirginia said:
this is actually why i've been swayed over to buying from brick and mortar stores in the US like ATT/best buy/amazon/etc. the past 2 smartphones i imported i had issues with after the 15-day (yes, 15) exchange window and i was basically screwed. in cases like this i'd have to ship my phone off and be phone-less until the issue was fixed.
those were the first, and last, two phones i'll import for myself. guess what they were? Samsung Galaxy S-i9100 and Samsung Galaxy Nexus. the issue with them? bad displays.
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my point exactly & based on actual personal exp, US all the way for me
ceo.mtcl said:
So here are the steps to get non smart phone data plan for 10 bucks (if you already have unlimited messaging) or 15 bucks if you don't have unlimited messaging is still there.
1. Before yesterday (06/06/2012) I was on 3GB $30 plan.
2. I took the simcard out of my at&t smart phone and put it in galaxy s3
3. Dialed 611
4. Asked operator to switch my data plan to 'non smart phone unlimited data' as I'm not using an at&t smart phone any more.
5. Operator asked for imei number. I provided the imei number from gs3
6. She said it's showing as an unknown phone so she will add the unlimited non smart phone data plan to it. (If she asked what kind of phone it is just say you have no idea. May be a Samsung phone.)
7. All set. Working unlimited data.
There is no cap on it. And they don't throttle us as well.
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What are your APN settings?
mg2195 said:
Quick question...cant currently afford the sgs3...but would the unlimited data trick work if I put my sim in an old non smartphone Samsung called and used that imei...then after that's done put it back in my smartphone? Or would they detect the imei on smartphone after j put it back in and put me back on a smartphone plan...(I'm stuck with the $15 200mb att plan)
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Once you put your sIm card in At&t branded smart phone network will detect it and it will pot a smart phone data plan on it.
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mrvirginia said:
this is actually why i've been swayed over to buying from brick and mortar stores in the US like ATT/best buy/amazon/etc. the past 2 smartphones i imported i had issues with after the 15-day (yes, 15) exchange window and i was basically screwed. in cases like this i'd have to ship my phone off and be phone-less until the issue was fixed.
those were the first, and last, two phones i'll import for myself. guess what they were? Samsung Galaxy S-i9100 and Samsung Galaxy Nexus. the issue with them? bad displays.
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May be I and many friends were just lucky but we have all imported and nothing bad has ever happened. However we so have warranties just in case from expansys/negri being the middlemen.
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ceo.mtcl said:
May be I and many friends were just lucky but we have all imported and nothing bad has ever happened. However we so have warranties just in case from expansys/negri being the middlemen.
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true. but you have to ship your phone off. i'd be phone-less for much longer than i would if i just bought from US instead. it's a trade-off that i personally don't want to make anymore.
Look guys, there's pros and cons to both sides. Yes you can walk into the store and get help right away assuming if you have insurance and pay a $200 deductable later.
Most of the benefits you guys speak of is within the 30 day, 1 time exchange policy. Yes, I have my HOX receipt here and that's what it says. That includes a $35 restocking fee I think. So yes, at the end of the day you can easily go and swap your phone one time in 30 days. but this is where you make a decision if it's worth having this cool service for 30 days or paying less on your monthly bill on a dumb phone plan with a smartphone in addition to unlimited internet. But you get what you paid for, if you pay double the price you get that cool 4G LTE limited data plan. So weigh your pros and cons.
But lets not turn this into a positive reinforcement to make ourselves feel better about our decisions. I think there is a thread for that already, and it's called International vs USA.
This thread is just for the benefits of the International on ATT where you can get unlimited data and save around $1000 dollars or more on your phone bill. Lets keep it that way and lets keep the "defend our decision" in the International vs USA thread. Thank you.
Zabalba said:
What are your APN settings?
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The apn settings are automatically detected by the phone. Do you still want me to post them ?
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The BOGO is for qualified plans only (meaning T-Mobile One unlimited). So with the simple choice plan that I have with six lines if I were to switch, it would add at least $80 more each month. I had already ordered the two phones and added a line when I called customer service to find out why one phone was being shipped today and the other ship date was October 6 - 10. During my long discussion I discovered that my plan wasn't eligible for the BOGO (actually the customer representative voluntarily revealed this information - and even suggested that with the plan that I have that I not switch). Something similar happened to me before with T-Mobile you would think that I would learn my lesson.
Yes, most Simple Choice plans aren't included, but they don't tell which in the promo details. That's pretty much the reason they're giving you a $930 phone for free, they really want everyone to give up the good grandfathered plans. I have the 6GB $70 2 line Simple Choice plan and I'm not trading that in for a $120 2 line One plan
Purchase a qualifying Samsung Galaxy Note8 on EIP and activate at least one new voice line on T-Mobile ONE or select Simple Choice Unlimited with unlimited high speed data and get your choice of a Samsung Galaxy Note8, Galaxy S8 or Galaxy S8+ for free after rebate. If you cancel wireless service, remaining balance on phone becomes due.
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This should be a warning for any promo. Verizon did this all the time when they switched from the unlimited plans. None of the plan promos would ever apply to their grandfathered data plans.
harveydent said:
Yes, most Simple Choice plans aren't included, but they don't tell which in the promo details. That's pretty much the reason they're giving you a $930 phone for free, they really want everyone to give up the good grandfathered plans. I have the 6GB $70 2 line Simple Choice plan and I'm not trading that in for a $120 2 line One plan
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Yea the big problem is that it's after the return period has passed is when they tell you that you didn't qualify for the BOGO and now you're stuck with a $930 bill
I had the 2 for 100 simple choice unlimited plan. When they offered a free 3rd line to swap to the tmobile one plan, I jumped. 3 unlimited lines at 33 a pop. Can't say no to That!
That said, a 6gb plan would last me a week. I'm a heavy data user so that wouldn't work at all. I'd hate having to swap between wifi routers to stay under a limit
I have 150x150 home fiber but I still keep mobile data on unless I need to Chromecast YouTube for the kids ( requires me to be on my home network).
I LOVE the 10gb of hotspot included. My trucks head unit is a quad core android unit so I use YouTube music playlists while driving ( and iheart radio ). I couldn't live with a data limit!
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Lol literally 10 days into the billing cycle
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has anyone gotten approved for the BOGO yet?
chavist said:
has anyone gotten approved for the BOGO yet?
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I have and I also have the ORIGINAL TMobile unlimited plan. Not only did I not have to change, the in store rep lied to me telling me that I would have to upgrade. I didn't believe him and called a mobile rep. Glad I did. My Visa card will arrive within 8 weeks.
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chavist said:
has anyone gotten approved for the BOGO yet?
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Nope, I was told I was denied for the galaxy s8 bogo because one of the lines during activation did not get activated properly. Rep told me that it would be a simple fix for the rebate department to fix, hot diggity damn it was a 40 minute wait to disconnect. Spent 2 weeks trying to talk to the rebate team.
Now the note 8 is released and what do I do??? Paid half of both the lines and upgraded to the note 8...
Yeah it was a lot of money spent I could have hosted opened the extra line and gotten another BOGO but then to fuss later on to close the new line...
Regardless it was such a good idea to upgrade to the note, so much screen space just makes all then difference
chavist said:
has anyone gotten approved for the BOGO yet?
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I did but I refused it didn't want to fork over 700 bucks just to get 300 6 months later lol thanks but no thanks
I got a note 8 today, and am on the simple choice plan, and the "free" second phone is just costing me a $10 a month additional line that I'm gonna cancel as soon as I get the card and pay off the EIP.
They screwed me... I have to pay full price, for both devices.
DAD12345 said:
They screwed me... I have to pay full price, for both devices.
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What's the reason?
heldc said:
I got a note 8 today, and am on the simple choice plan, and the "free" second phone is just costing me a $10 a month additional line that I'm gonna cancel as soon as I get the card and pay off the EIP.
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I hope that your simple choice plan is considered as being a qualified plan. Mine wasn't despite having unlimited data (it was explained that the unlimited data that I have was due to a promotion therefore didn't qualify). They wanted me to move over to the One plan which would have basically doubled my bill (because I have 6 lines).
Everything worked fine here, I'm on the 4 lines for $150 Simple Choice Unlimited everything. Already received my 930 gift card too ?
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I hope that your simple choice plan is considered as being a qualified plan. Mine wasn't despite having unlimited data (it was explained that the unlimited data that I have was due to a promotion therefore didn't qualify). They wanted me to move over to the One plan which would have basically doubled my bill (because I have 6 lines).
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You reminded me to actually submit the rebate, thanks! I ended up calling in to get the rebate, cos I didn't see how to put it in online. Turned out that the two associated lines had to have unlimited internet, which the store had *not* told me. So the nice woman on the phone added it to those two lines only, put in an adjustment so it wont cost me extra, and submitted the rebate for me. She said once I get the rebate, call in and there will be no problem removing the unlimited internet.
So the store almost screwed me over, but customer care sorted it out for me. Patience and being polite to CSRs is magic! This is why I stick with t-mobile. Their CSRs have consistently gone above and beyond for me. And I'm on the simple choice unlimited talk&text and 2.5GB data.
A somewhat old plan.
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mickeycobra04 said:
Everything worked fine here, I'm on the 4 lines for $150 Simple Choice Unlimited everything. Already received my 930 gift card too
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Yeah? How long since you submitted for the rebate did it take to show up?
heldc said:
You reminded me to actually submit the rebate, thanks! I ended up calling in to get the rebate, cos I didn't see how to put it in online. Turned out that the two associated lines had to have unlimited internet, which the store had *not* told me. So the nice woman on the phone added it to those two lines only, put in an adjustment so it wont cost me extra, and submitted the rebate for me. She said once I get the rebate, call in and there will be no problem removing the unlimited internet.
So the store almost screwed me over, but customer care sorted it out for me. Patience and being polite to CSRs is magic! This is why I stick with t-mobile. Their CSRs have consistently gone above and beyond for me.
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That's good to hear that it's working out for you. However, I would like to suggest that if you don't already have some sort of written proof of this that you get it. I'm not trying to scare you but from experience one rep may have told you one thing and the next one would say that they have no record of it or that the rep gave you wrong information. Simply submitting the rebate does not automatically mean that it is approved (again speaking from personal experience). But I will also say that if you have a truly unlimited plan that you should be good.
P.S. I've been with t-mobile over a decade because of the same reason that you have mentioned - CSRs have consistently gone above and beyond for me - but you still want to be careful; especially it being due to it being a $1000 transaction.
GMAN1722 said:
However, I would like to suggest that if you don't already have some sort of written proof of this that you get it.
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I've got a text with a confirmation number.
heldc said:
I've got a text with a confirmation number.
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You should be good to go. I'm waiting for my note 8 to arrive this week. I did the trade in with Samsung for $400 off. I'm a little nervous based on others reporting that they got screwed over in the past. However, it went well when my wife did it in September for $425 off and a bunch of freebies.
GMAN1722 said:
You should be good to go. I'm waiting for my note 8 to arrive this week. I did the trade in with Samsung for $400 off. I'm a little nervous based on others reporting that they got screwed over in the past. However, it went well when my wife did it in September for $425 off and a bunch of freebies.
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I thought about doing the samsung deal, but I wanted the t-mobile financing, plus I wanted to walk into the store and walk out with my new toy same day.
heldc said:
I thought about doing the samsung deal, but I wanted the t-mobile financing, plus I wanted to walk into the store and walk out with my new toy same day.
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I got the samsung interest free financing which comes with the ability to upgrade to the next samsung galaxy if it is half way paid off (similar to T-Mobile Jump)