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Find 5 or HTC One

I'm looking into a new phone but I'm just not sure if I should get the Find 5 or One. The camera is not a deciding factor for me, battery would mean more. If I read right the Find 5 has a bigger battery, can I assume that means the Oppa also have better battery life?
My second sticking point is, are there any rumors for when 4.2.2 will be released for it?
Third is how is the support for T-Mobile HSPA+ and LTE?

I should go for the HTC One, BTW it will be better supported!

well i guess in the end its all about the price. the find 5 is way more reasonable, at least in europe
the battery might be bigger on the oppo but i think there are some issues with the battery management. thats just what i read in other threads and on the oppo forums - please correct me if im wrong...
i dont have my find 5 yet, but ordered one yesterday. i was unsure between those two as well, but eventually ordered the black find 5 since it will still take some time until the black htc One is on sale.
so if the oppo doesnt work for me i will sell it and get the me the htc one...

vfnk said:
well i guess in the end its all about the price. the find 5 is way more reasonable, at least in europe
the battery might be bigger on the oppo but i think there are some issues with the battery management. thats just what i read in other threads and on the oppo forums - please correct me if im wrong...
i dont have my find 5 yet, but ordered one yesterday. i was unsure between those two as well, but eventually ordered the black find 5 since it will still take some time until the black htc One is on sale.
so if the oppo doesnt work for me i will sell it and get the me the htc one...
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Where did you buy Oppo find 5 in Europe? The only one I found in Europe is on amazon.co.uk and it costs 400£ . Did you manage to find it any cheaper ?

shem2409 said:
Where did you buy Oppo find 5 in Europe? The only one I found in Europe is on amazon.co.uk and it costs 400£ . Did you manage to find it any cheaper ?
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on their homepage oppostyle com the 32gb version for 569$ - they ship for free!! (express it says )

Did you have to pay customs etc? (it's shipped from Asia) Cause as far as I know that would add in excess of 20% (of value) to the phone price... And then it simply would not be worth the hassle with customs etc
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shem2409 said:
Did you have to pay customs etc? (it's shipped from Asia) Cause as far as I know that would add in excess of 20% (of value) to the phone price... And then it simply would not be worth the hassle with customs etc
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yes your right maybe its not worth it when extra fees are added...but sometimes you have to pay them and sometimes it just gets through without any extra costs.
i ordered mine two days ago so i hope i don't have to pay custom duties... but even with the 20% added its still about 50€ cheaper than the htc
- not that much but i was just curious and needed a phone...

aliexpress
You can buy Find 5 on Aliexpress for only 530$ btw

212th said:
You can buy Find 5 on Aliexpress for only 530$ btw
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Don't recommend Ali
Sent from my Oppo Find 5

Hi Knitler,
In my opinion, the main drawback of the find 5 is its fragility.
The back side of the phone, despite it is very stylish and uncommon (but certainly not as much as the Htc one <3 ), has a very soft plastic.
I owned it since a few weeks and one thing I can say is i'm always trying to be careful on where I place it and how it stands on a desk.
Dust easily scratches the rear side of my poor Oppo and loves lodging into them, especially on the white model
And what is most frustrating than handling the Oppo like it would be a jewel !? Damn, it's just a phone !!
(so if you hesitate, chose the black one )
Otherwise, this smartphone is just a killer plaything
Regarding the battery side, I'm not shure a few milliamps would make the difference on a whole day. In both cases, you would have to charge it every day.
Another interesting point mentionned by brakke97, I believe the One will have a better support.
But, chose the HTC and you will have Mr Everyone's phone

Pixel69 said:
Hi Knitler,
In my opinion, the main drawback of the find 5 is its fragility.
The back side of the phone, despite it is very stylish and uncommon (but certainly not as much as the Htc one <3 ), has a very soft plastic.
I owned it since a few weeks and one thing I can say is i'm always trying to be careful on where I place it and how it stands on a desk.
Dust easily scratches the rear side of my poor Oppo and loves lodging into them, especially on the white model
And what is most frustrating than handling the Oppo like it would be a jewel !? Damn, it's just a phone !!
(so if you hesitate, chose the black one )
Otherwise, this smartphone is just a killer plaything
Regarding the battery side, I'm not shure a few milliamps would make the difference on a whole day. In both cases, you would have to charge it every day.
Another interesting point mentionned by brakke97, I believe the One will have a better support.
But, chose the HTC and you will have Mr Everyone's phone
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It's not fragile at all, it's very well built. Soft plastic does NOT make a phone fragile, it makes it impact resistant!
I hate how people constantly ignorantly bash plastic as a build material. Properly engineered plastics (as found in Samsungs and the Oppo) are more impact resistant and durable than any other material available for a phone. I speak this from experience - I would be blind in one eye if not for polycarbonate plastic's impact resistance.

I'd say find 5 if your on a budget,and HTC's aren't the best choice if battery life is a concern...

I would choose Oppo find 5. There are many updates from Oppo and the phone is fantastic.

I am sure HTC one will have great support, but what about the locked bootloader? You will lose warranty as soon as you unlock it. So think twice before you choose a phone. Oppo is budget phone while HTC is costlier one. I think we should encourage Oppo so that they will release much more devices in the future.
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To be honest I don't see how the price makes any difference here:
HTC One price 32gb (sim unlocked, bootloader locked )- 575$
64gb (sim and bootloader unlocked) - 650$
Oppo Find 5 16gb -500$ (but you can't really compare to any of the above due to storage)
32gb- 569$
So from what I can see the price difference is 6$ when comparing the 32gb units.
Now depending on where you live you might be able to get the Oppo Find 5 in your country or will need to get it shipped from Hong Kong as in the case of most of the world (including Europe) so you risk getting charged VAT (20% of value) and custom charges. In that case Oppo becomes significantly more expensive.
If you do live in the USA however then the decision between the two devices comes to personal preference. Both are great devices but do bare in mind that HTC One has the following advantages:
+Faster processor
+Higher Pixel density
+Aluminum unibody
+Possibly better developer support as most people will own the device (but you would have to buy the developer's edition to take full advantage of that)
As of now there are also other great devices on the market from China that might be worth considering as well such as Huawei Ascend D2. Alternatively you also have Xperia Z (which I currently own) and Samsung Galaxy s4.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.

shem2409 said:
As of now there are also other great devices on the market from China that might be worth considering as well such as Huawei Ascend D2. Alternatively you also have Xperia Z (which I currently own) and Samsung Galaxy s4.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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Got a chance to look at the Xperia ZL and HTC One (Xperia Z isn't available in the US Sony Store unfortunately)
Xperia ZL - don't know which version of the display I was looking at, but viewing angles are definitely inferior to the Oppo (washed out when you don't look straight into the display). It is smaller (basically size of Oppo minus the bottom white non-screen portion)
HTC one - display similar to Oppo, lighter, feels just as good build-quality wise
I just dislike HTC enough (from previous device Amaze 4G, and the craptastic Sense) to not buy phones from them anymore
battery life for Find5 - people say the CM10.1 experimental has way better battery life...
If I had to choose between the Find 5 and HTC One (with a fully working CM10.1 build on both), it's hard to decide... but now, Sense is enough to say no for me

I personally wanted a 5" screen as being 6'3 I have big hands. It is a fact that the viewing angles are not great. The screen does offer beautiful color reproduction though and Sony offers great developer support which the owners can benefit from. There is a few bugs that are still present that I hope that will be resolved with the update.
Coming back to Oppo 5, as I said it is a great device but due to lack of access to it/ price I went for Xperia Z. So far I am super happy with the phone but I like to try out new devices and would love to get my hands on HTC ONE 64GB Developer Edition. It's a shame it's only available in the US. ( the price is kinda steep though :-/ and I personally don't care about Boom Sound or Zoe) I have seen pictures of the aluminum unibody scratching easily as well ( but that could be the paid of Sammy fans...LOL) but I carry my phone in a hard case anyways.
Long story short if I were to buy a phone in the US I would for sure go for HTC ONE DE. Because I live in Europe I think that the Xperia Z is one of the best options here. You can also find it for much cheaper than HTC ONE as it has been out for a while already ( and you get water resistance, a camera which allows you to zoom in (ekhm... HTC one 4mp) and an sd slot (rare these days)
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shem2409 said:
To be honest I don't see how the price makes any difference here:
HTC One price 32gb (sim unlocked, bootloader locked )- 575$
64gb (sim and bootloader unlocked) - 650$
Oppo Find 5 16gb -500$ (but you can't really compare to any of the above due to storage)
32gb- 569$
So from what I can see the price difference is 6$ when comparing the 32gb units.
Now depending on where you live you might be able to get the Oppo Find 5 in your country or will need to get it shipped from Hong Kong as in the case of most of the world (including Europe) so you risk getting charged VAT (20% of value) and custom charges. In that case Oppo becomes significantly more expensive.
To be honest I really wanted to buy the Oppo Find 5 here in Europe but due to lack of availability and the high import cost I have decided to choose something different. Buying a phone from Asia also will come with problems when servicing and looking for spare parts or accessories.
So summing up I don' t see the reason why anyone would opt for Oppo other than wanting to be unique. Don't get me wrong it is a great device indeed but it is just not competitive enough in the market right now. I wish that Oppo have released the device a lot sooner as I have been reading about since October 2012.
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well 6$ difference is not correct. i did some reading and apparently oppo declares their packages as 150$ value. so you will have to pay about 30$ vat depending on where you live in europe.
so i paid 449€ paying with paypal, plus 23€ duty, means a total of 472€.
compared to the 599€ of the same sized Htc One.
just saying....
and at the moment the availability of the oppo is way better - in Austria at least.
but of course importing phone from asia from a "small" company can cause some problems and might be a bit risky

Without a doubt HTC one
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once cyanogenmod 10.1 getting better on Find 5, I think it is more valuable to get a Find 5 than HTC one

DZ Successor - my experience

Hello guys. I was using DZ for a long time (jul 2011 - dec 2012) and got it replaced by a "standard" phone without keyboard - Xperia Ion. After almost a year of suffering without hardware keyboard I recently imported Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G (SGH-T699) from USA.
My experience:
1) you can import Galaxy S Relay 4G to Europe without no problem, it runs on GSM/HSDPA networks and has a SIM card slot (Important!)
2) I bought it via ebay.com, in used state but with real pictures of the device and in perfect state. The costs were $125 for the phone + $39 international priority shipping + cca $35 import charges (customs and VAT - 20% in Slovakia).
3) The import charges were charged with the payment and I didn't even know about the customs process, the courier just brought me the phone. That's a plus for ebay when importing from outside EU.
4) The phone was unfortunately locked (even if the seller stated it as unlocked). But after downgrade to ICS it can be unlocked in few minutes.
5) The US charger is no use in Europe, but you can charge it with any other charger, I'm using 1500mA charger from Sony now or 1000mA from HTC. Or you can even use the original charger with travel adapter, but it's uncomfortable, your choice however.
6) The stock firmware is bloated, half of the apps installed are called "T-mobile something" If you like Samsung android environment, you can debloat it manually after rooting, but I suppose most of xda guys will flash CM11 - it's now pretty stable even in experimental state. Honestly, I've been using much more unstable roms as dd...
7) The stock rom has only few languages (en, de, es, fr), but custom roms have full list of languages.
I was considering also Moto Photon Q, but it lacks sim card slot. It can be done, there's a step by step guide on xda to solder a sim card slot. Even the guy from Prague (author of the guide) could do it personally. But I chose the easier way and got the Samsung S Relay. There are no other GSM qwerty android phones usable in Europe.
To moderators: I saw a similar thread that was closed as not related to Desire Z. I must disagree, a DZ successor is a DZ related thread, as the device is pretty old and most of owners are looking for a decent successor. Just wanted to share my personal experience. If you wish, you can move this post to the closed thread, I wouldn't mind But please, don't delete it, in my opinion it contains useful information that definitely has to be found in DZ section. thanks

I also imported one. 180 $ + import tax (new one).
The default rom is pretty decent compared to htc sense, cm10 is much faster than on the desire Z (multitask 10-15 apps: no problem).
The keyboard isn't that good as the one from the desire Z, but you have to get used to it. I have 22Mb as max speed at home (10Mb desire Z) on 3G+.

Looks good and price is good. Was this the only keyboarded Android you looked at or are there other comparable?

brainless00 said:
Looks good and price is good. Was this the only keyboarded Android you looked at or are there other comparable?
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I was considering Motorola Photon Q (without SIM card slot, count plus 50 euro and 2x postage to CZ). This model is the only one suitable with SIM card and support for European networks.
In the meantime LG F3Q was announced. Look at the specs http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-F3Q_id8243
Maybe it's also worth considering, but I don't like it very much at first look, but it has 2460mAh battery. I'm not sure about the SIM card slot, but as it's on TM USA, it should have defnitely one.

sorgo said:
I was considering Motorola Photon Q (without SIM card slot, count plus 50 euro and 2x postage to CZ). This model is the only one suitable with SIM card and support for European networks.
In the meantime LG F3Q was announced. Look at the specs http://www.phonearena.com/phones/LG-Optimus-F3Q_id8243
Maybe it's also worth considering, but I don't like it very much at first look, but it has 2460mAh battery. I'm not sure about the SIM card slot, but as it's on TM USA, it should have defnitely one.
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thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better

brainless00 said:
thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better
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I went to a T-Mobile store and look at the actual phone today.
It looks better in hands than on the photo.

brainless00 said:
thx for link... the blue keyboard looks strange... the Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G looks better
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there are versions with silver and black keyboard too...

To order one from Canada to Europe: http://www.canadagsm.ca/products-LG-Optimus-F3Q-Penta-Band-LTE. 2G and 3G should work; 4G not.
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Could this be real: http://442kitkat.senuke.info/mp3-0/lg-optimus-f3q-5998.html?

brainless00 said:
there are versions with silver and black keyboard too...
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Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.

santimaster2000 said:
Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.
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I went to T-Mobile store the other day and I don't think they have that version, at least not for the US market.

santimaster2000 said:
Are you sure about that ? I thought that was only an early concept.
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I only saw pictures... so you could be right

I am still dreaming of a flagship android with hardware keyboard... the LG looks fine, but 1Gb of ram in 2014 is too little. The biggest limitation of the DZ is by far its ~360Mb of ram...

for me,i have imported Huawei U8730,better CPU/GPU,better RAM and bigger screen than HTC DZ

nebu_06 said:
I am still dreaming of a flagship android with hardware keyboard... the LG looks fine, but 1Gb of ram in 2014 is too little. The biggest limitation of the DZ is by far its ~360Mb of ram...
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me too

Suspicious outrageously cheap LG G2 seller, legit?

As the title suggests,
Came across a company called cell-plaza on ebay who are based in Hong Kong selling lots of high end phones, all brand new, for what seems to be very cheap prices.
Details:
Description: NEW LG G2 D801 4G LTE Quad-Core 32GB 13MP Android Mobile Phone- Black (Unlocked)
Price: £141.00
Link: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281435055233?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
Has anyone had any experience with this company, or can you spot anything suspicious about them?
I've already made the purchase, hoping for the best.
I've been stung by clones & knock off's before, but I've never seen an LG G2 clone before.
Thanks.

If you read the negative feedbacks on ebay you foud that probably they sent you a refurbished phone and probably without warranty. But the price made the deal..
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Hope it works out for you, man. The negative feedback is a bit discouraging, especially the one that says something about changing feedback in order to get refund!
But let us know how it works out for you. I'm thinking at worst (based on feedback) you have a 4 in 5 chance of getting a working phone.

Did it arrive?
Hi, did you receive this phone OK? I'm contemplating buying one myself.
Thanks

alot of negative feedback thats not good... before you flash anything search for refurbished thread and make sure oyu know wich model variant you get by looking on the motherboard otherways youll brick your phone if you wish to flash new rom even root i think..

that is the normal price of a SECOND hand G2 in my country.

gunna be selling my vs980 for 150 on ebay =D

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If you read the negative feedbacks on ebay you foud that probably they sent you a refurbished phone and probably without warranty. But the price made the deal..
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98.9% Positive Feedback

leethedon1 said:
Has anyone had any experience with this company, or can you spot anything suspicious about them?
I've already made the purchase, hoping for the best.
Thanks.
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Well, now that I have received my G2 from them, I can share some of my experience. I live in USA and good ATT LTE performance is crucial to me. The company sold the ATT D800 version on ebay as new for about $165 bucks, which I think is a fair price for a previous generation fragship phone sold by a shoddy HK company considering that $200 buys me a brand new ASUS Zenfone 2 or Zenfone 2 Laser here in USA with full warranty and all.
The phone arrived two weeks later in the original cardboard packaging sealed in plastic. The phone case looked brand new, no scratches or any signs of use or abuse. I removed the back cover and looked inside. Inside was the original LG battery produced in 2013 and D800 printed on the case. The printed IMEI number matches what is reported by the software, and corresponds to the ATT D800 model. The phone works fine and has already installed two OTA updates, upgrading KitKat 4.4.2 to Lollipop.
Next, I installed the LTE discovery app to snoop around on which LTE bands my G2 is using. Depending on my location in the neighborhood, the bands were switching between Band 2 and the all-crucial Band 17, which confirms I indeed got the D800 for the ATT LTE network. Finally, I have run Geekbench 3 benchmark app repeatedly and the consistent scores of 900+ and 2500+ (single-core and multi-core) are in line with the benchmarks published in many online reviews of G2.
HOWEVER, the printed manual inside the box, talks about LG-P920 which corresponds to an entirely different LG phone, which does point to some kind of shoddy vendor activity.
Either way, I feel pretty happy having purchased an LG2 that looks like new and works like new for just $165 bucks. For me it's a stopgap phone until the Snapdragon 820 devices arrive. The only thing that disappoints me is having just 32GB of storage. I have a music collection that takes up something like 200GB in lossless format, and even converted to a high bit rate MP3, 32GB is just barely not enough. I wish there was an SD card slot. In retorspect, the SD801-based 64GB Oneplus One that's now sold for only $300 USD may have been a better choice. Also, the LG GUI is ok, but not as nice as the Cyanogen OS on a Oneplus One phone. The LG GUI looks ok, it is something like made by geeks, for other geeks. The poor wallpaper collection and the lack of themes is appalling, but fixable. The phone looks like a keeper to me. I look forward to testing the camera performance and trying Cyanogenmod.

Get yourself a tiny Micro sd card reader by Meenova for 10.00 and a 128GB Samsung Micro SDXC Card (can be found under 40 this week due to cyber Monday Week deals if you google slickdeals.net) and you'll be more than set!
I'm using the Samsung 64GB Pro Micro SDXC Card and its amazing.
Akopps said:
Well, now that I have received my G2 from them, I can share some of my experience. I live in USA and good ATT LTE performance is crucial to me. The company sold the ATT D800 version on ebay as new for about $165 bucks, which I think is a fair price for a previous generation fragship phone sold by a shoddy HK company considering that $200 buys me a brand new ASUS Zenfone 2 or Zenfone 2 Laser here in USA with full warranty and all.
The phone arrived two weeks later in the original cardboard packaging sealed in plastic. The phone case looked brand new, no scratches or any signs of use or abuse. I removed the back cover and looked inside. Inside was the original LG battery produced in 2013 and D800 printed on the case. The printed IMEI number matches what is reported by the software, and corresponds to the ATT D800 model. The phone works fine and has already installed two OTA updates, upgrading KitKat 4.4.2 to Lollipop.
Next, I installed the LTE discovery app to snoop around on which LTE bands my G2 is using. Depending on my location in the neighborhood, the bands were switching between Band 2 and the all-crucial Band 17, which confirms I indeed got the D800 for the ATT LTE network. Finally, I have run Geekbench 3 benchmark app repeatedly and the consistent scores of 900+ and 2500+ (single-core and multi-core) are in line with the benchmarks published in many online reviews of G2.
HOWEVER, the printed manual inside the box, talks about LG-P920 which corresponds to an entirely different LG phone, which does point to some kind of shoddy vendor activity.
Either way, I feel pretty happy having purchased an LG2 that looks like new and works like new for just $165 bucks. For me it's a stopgap phone until the Snapdragon 820 devices arrive. The only thing that disappoints me is having just 32GB of storage. I have a music collection that takes up something like 200GB in lossless format, and even converted to a high bit rate MP3, 32GB is just barely not enough. I wish there was an SD card slot. In retorspect, the SD801-based 64GB Oneplus One that's now sold for only $300 USD may have been a better choice. Also, the LG GUI is ok, but not as nice as the Cyanogen OS on a Oneplus One phone. The LG GUI looks ok, it is something like made by geeks, for other geeks. The poor wallpaper collection and the lack of themes is appalling, but fixable. The phone looks like a keeper to me. I look forward to testing the camera performance and trying Cyanogenmod.
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Thank you so much for posting this and for following up with your findings.
I have a G3 on order from the same seller and started to worry after reading their negative feedback (also AFTER buying - which I would not normally do!).
I'll also post on here once I receive the LG G3 32gb to confirm that the phone received is the official LG Model or a replica, new or used and whether the phone is working as it should.
Thanks for the SD card suggestion too, I will have a look.

I was just looking at a G3 from them this morning. I'll be curious to hear about your experience.
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The G2 is pretty old now despite the capabilities from it. I feel like the price they are selling it for is reasonable

I just purchased a vs980 from eBay for 89.99 and it is in perfect condition. It is refurbished but works like brand new

syrkles said:
I just purchased a vs980 from eBay for 89.99 and it is in perfect condition. It is refurbished but works like brand new
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before flashing any rom makes sure you know exact variant or else youll brick phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g2/general/warning-to-people-bought-phones-ebay-t2991195

I got the G3 it is legit LG tested everything and its legit. A couple of things though.
Branded T-Mobile who have been EE for nearly 2 years?
Get alerts from T-Mobile saying 156mb update is ready but it just reboots and stays on 4.4.2.
It keeps on turning off and will come on again once I remove and re-insert the battery.
Currently debating whether to send it back for a refund or root to see if it fixes it!

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I got the G3 it is legit LG tested everything and its legit. A couple of things though.
Branded T-Mobile who have been EE for nearly 2 years?
Get alerts from T-Mobile saying 156mb update is ready but it just reboots and stays on 4.4.2.
It keeps on turning off and will come on again once I remove and re-insert the battery.
Currently debating whether to send it back for a refund or root to see if it fixes it!
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theres a kdz file for marshmallow to update phone. maybe give that a try..do a search

Don't buy from them, they state 12 month warranty but after 3 months the screen died and they won't honor their warranty.

[Q] Would you recommend elephone?

I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.

scottharris4 said:
I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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go for P6000 or P7000.
you can visit their forum also, they have active developers and custom rom support also. :good:

My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.

german_psycho said:
My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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I saw it also in a review by AA that the "kinda" downside of this device is the camera, hope it will gets better on a OTA update.

cheeze.keyk said:
I saw it also in a review by AA that the "kinda" downside of this device is the camera, hope it will gets better on a OTA update.
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Don't think the camera can be improved any further just by the software.
The build-in camera can only do 8MP, the 13MP as advertised is only interpolated. And the used CMOS isn't a Sony as advertised, but a somewhat cheaper one..
Same problem with most china phone, camera is often only mediocre. But if you aren't too heavy into photography, it shouldn't hold you back from buying a china phone

german_psycho said:
Don't think the camera can be improved any further just by the software.
The build-in camera can only do 8MP, the 13MP as advertised is only interpolated. And the used CMOS isn't a Sony as advertised, but a somewhat cheaper one..
Same problem with most china phone, camera is often only mediocre. But if you aren't too heavy into photography, it shouldn't hold you back from buying a china phone
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i was thinking of buying this device also or the moto g, for back up phone only.
Beamed from my LG G3 D855

cheeze.keyk said:
go for P6000 or P7000.
you can visit their forum also, they have active developers and custom rom support also. :good:
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Where is their forum?

i think its bbs.elephone.hk
Beamed from my LG G3 D855

Will the Elephone p7000 work with USA 4G/LTE? I've read several of these Chinese phones I have been looking at have poor wifi range. Does Elephone typically have that problem? I ask because where my office is at work isn't that close to the wireless router, I only get about 50% signal strength.

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My wife has an P6000 now for some weeks and she really likes it.
It replaces her Samsung Galaxy S2 Plus.
Screen is nice, battery is good, speed is good, Lollipop has since been released.
The only downside is the mediocre camera. It's okay for taking "party pictures" or just some pics to share, but can't compare to a good camera.
But for the price of $130, I would definetly recommend it.
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Wait! Audio output too is a major downside. Never got such a ****ty one.. Unless I got defective unit? Doesn't seem so tough..

I've been using this phone for 3 days. It's fast, battery is OK ish, screen is good, audio wise it's OK, lacks compass and gyroscope, camera isn't so good, pictures come out kinda fuzzy. My ex-phone is a Jiayu G3T, so that is what I'm comparing it to. Cost me about 120euro.

scottharris4 said:
I just heard about Elephone, and since their website takes you to all these off the wall places to buy their phones, is this a company you would recommend buying a phone from? I always am a bit suspicious about these off the wall brands and stores. I am particularly interested in the P7000 but there is no topic for the P7000 (another red flag), but the P6000 and P4000 are also enticing.
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Sorry but this only partially true.
Elephone is only a manufacturer and does only B2B.
The information flow of Elephone is rather bad. They still have on their webpage under new products the P7000 announced as available from May. However the P7000 was only partially delivered to pre-orders and a lot of people who paid for the phone are still waiting for it. Apparently the next round of deliveries for the P7000 to shops is announced for the 25th of June.
The other new Elephone models G9, P4000 and S2/S2plus announced for June are still only to pre-order in shops.
[*]The shops where you can buy the products are not truthful about the Elephone products they have in stock. In my experience you have to ask them if the have the have the product in stock in their warehouse ready for shipping.
I did cancel my order for the P7000 in gold with To2C and had to fight to get a full refund.
I placed my order with them at the 21/05/ and got a confirmation of them that they will ship it from the 25th. On the 25th To2C said we'll ship Wednesday or Thursday, on the 28th Friday because they have do put them through their QC. On the 30th they admitted that they do not fulfil the order, it will be shipped out of direct from the Elephone factory to customers and that they cannot send via PostNL. I then asked them what MT6752 3GB phone they have in their own warehouse in stock ready to be send out. They offered the Ecoo E04 (which I looked up as alternative already; it is build by Elephone and out on the market). Next Monday 01/06/ they said again sorry they do not have it in stock, it wilol be send by Elephone. At this point I cancelled my order with them and wanted to be refunded. To2C send me an email showing that they put the paypal fee to me. At that point I did open a dispute with paypal, contacted paypal and raised the dispute to a claim for a full refund, which was done with in the next hours.
I did order then the Ecoo E04 at Aliexpress and it has cleared customs late last Friday. But be aware there are a lot of shop on Aliexpress who are not to be trusted. Eg. they put up pictures of a product alleged to be in stock and you find the same picture for it in an other shop with only the paper been photoshoped. There are even some shops which sell with DHL or FedEx shipping via an extra stop VAT/Duty free.​
They develop only their own stock and custom ROMs.
Elephone did not release the kernel source code for one of their android models, at least not on their forum under Developers Discussion› Android kernel.
There are some customers not happy with the support they get of Elephone.
They announced only the release of the kernel source code for their new MT 6753 based P8000 (slower cpu and Mali T720). The P8000 is announced for July, but well see my comment above
I posted a request in their forum thread to release the P8000 source code to release all their android kernel source codes.
Please support my post to push Elephone to release the kernel source codes: hxxp://bbs.elephone.hk/archiver/tid-5448.html​

I as well ordered a P7000 in gold at to2c.com during pre-sale on May 12th and I finally got it delivered to my place in the EU on June 16th, which is absolutely okay.

I also had problems getting the phone in stock with t2oc, it does get shipped direct and I complained to them about the in stock claim, they then gave a tracking reference which still said registered but not dispatched... That said I good the mains adaptor from t2oc within 2 weeks and the phone from elephone within 3 weeks, my old spare HTC sensation has been passed on to my father and my HTC one is now my spare. I'm happy with the p7000 so far, I'm not a developer but its a new toy and only £150, I've ordered another for a friend through coolicool and getting the same stock issues
Sent from my Elephone P7000 using Tapatalk

I just did. They are so slow in releasing new ROM. I bet they don't even develop their own ROM. You know why? Coz either JiaYu or some other manufacturer has exact releases as Elephone!

athlon866 said:
I just did. They are so slow in releasing new ROM. I bet they don't even develop their own ROM. You know why? Coz either JiaYu or some other manufacturer has exact releases as Elephone!
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yeah... they drop all support for ROMs after about 6m since release.
they also delete forum posts that ask why the ROMs are no longer supported.
crappy company... cheap though

deaglecat said:
yeah... they drop all support for ROMs after about 6m since release.
they also delete forum posts that ask why the ROMs are no longer supported.
crappy company... cheap though
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*Facepalm*

Looks like they deleted the G2 section :/

I do reccomend to buy one. It's cheap, nice, good, not small capacity (16 GB if I'm right).
But it's hell hard to root but basicly other things are nice and I enjoy using Elephone.

Please advise..ZTE axon 7 6GB 128GB

Hello
Today my moto x pure dead ....?
I want your help to choose between oneplus 3t and axon 7 6GB 128GB version
Where can i buy zte phones online i didnt find 6gb version on amazon.com
And should i buy unlocked version right ? I live in saudi arabia
Is this phone better than oneplus 3t
Is the OS come with bloatware??
Plz help me

You can only buy the 6gb "enhanced" version directly from ZTE, from my understanding. Make sure the wireless bands are compatible with your country.
The Oneplus 3T and Axon 7 are very similar in specs. Axon 7 has much better audio, slightly better screen, and SD card support. The 3T has a better software development community if you enjoy custom ROMs. I'd say those are the main differences.
Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk

Thanx but zteusa.com told me they stop selling axon 7 enhanced version ...they making new device and it will be rady this summer ...what should i do now ...wait or go to oneplus 3t ?

Any reason you have to have the enhanced version? The standard Axon 7 supports up to 128gb micro SD. You won't notice a difference between 4gb and 6gb or RAM as no app uses that much memory. You'll be pushing it to use up 2gb or RAM.
Personally I'd find a good deal on a Axon 7 or wait for the new phones to be announced in the coming months and go from there. I'm not sure how quickly you need a new phone.
Sent from my ZTE A2017U using Tapatalk

Mohannad-K said:
Thanx but zteusa.com told me they stop selling axon 7 enhanced version ...they making new device and it will be rady this summer ...what should i do now ...wait or go to oneplus 3t ?
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You don't really need the 6gb. The OP3 was rumored not to use those extra 2GB and no one noticed for a long time. The SD821 is pretty much the same as the SD820 that the Axon packs, taking thermal throttling into consideration. And you can use SD cards, true too.
If the new device they were talking about is the axon Max thing you probably should not wait, unless you don't care much about how the thing looks...

The reason why i want enhanced version that i dont want to buy new phone every year ..atleast 2-3 years
And if my moto didnt dead accidently i will not change it until next year
So that i want the powerfull phone with good price
Actually i need SD card option very much ..beacause of this feature in moto x i didnt loose my files when my phone dead and i restore every thing to my temporary phone also phone sound on moto x pure is very good as it had 2 stereo speakers..and i think the zte also have good speaker too
6GB of ram its for future .. as u see all apps now growing and eat too much memory like snapchat and facebookand also im using my phone to record youtube video and edit it then uplode it to my channel
If u have link to enhanced version i will be appreciate...i didnt buy from ebay before as i dont trust seller thair so if u found good deals on ebay or other site plz post the link here
Thank you Guys

6 gb of RAM îs only for market sales only. Not for a few years from now 6 gb will not be used.
There îs not a single software țo ușe 6 gb beside benchmark software

Mohannad-K said:
The reason why i want enhanced version that i dont want to buy new phone every year ..atleast 2-3 years
And if my moto didnt dead accidently i will not change it until next year
So that i want the powerfull phone with good price
Actually i need SD card option very much ..beacause of this feature in moto x i didnt loose my files when my phone dead and i restore every thing to my temporary phone also phone sound on moto x pure is very good as it had 2 stereo speakers..and i think the zte also have good speaker too
6GB of ram its for future .. as u see all apps now growing and eat too much memory like snapchat and facebookand also im using my phone to record youtube video and edit it then uplode it to my channel
If u have link to enhanced version i will be appreciate...i didnt buy from ebay before as i dont trust seller thair so if u found good deals on ebay or other site plz post the link here
Thank you Guys
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I understand your worries and concerns, but trust me they are unfounded. The only reason why android phones went to 4GB was for 64 bit capabilities. 6GB of RAM is completely uncalled for, as shown by Samsung when they only put 4GB of RAM in the new S8 (After the Note 7 flop they were not about to hold anything back in an attempt to show it's fan base that Samsung is still good). Don't worry about it, just buy the Axon 7. You will not regret it. 4GB of RAM is plenty, and that won't change anytime soon.

Thank you guys i think i will go with your advise☺
Did this version ok for me
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01F...zte+axon+7&dpPl=1&dpID=51PpzAlitpL&ref=plSrch
Its unlocked but i dont know if will work in the country i live
Another small question is zte phones software contain blowtware app Like asus zenfone?

Hmm seems US version a2017u will not working perfectly in saudi arabia
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...xon-7-a2017u-dual-sim-lte-a-64gb/saudi-arabia
And Eu a2017g version will working good
https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...on-7-a2017g-dual-sim-td-lte-64gb/saudi-arabia
What d o u think guys now

Ali express from china. Cheap and works fine