My OnePlus One melted!! - ONE General

I just got a new OnePlus One over the holidays. I've noticed that periodically it was getting very hot when I was charging it, both when using a car and wall charger and multiple different cables. On Saturday night I left it on the charger overnight and in the morning the phone was melted around the charger cable! Check out the pics below.
Only thing worse is that OnePlus says that it's likely because I was using a 3rd party charging cable (from my Samsung Galaxy S3) so they won't provide a refund or replace it. But they will let me pay $350 for a new mother board. So I'm out $400 and a brand new phone.

Normally using a different cable and charger wouldn't have such an effect. I know many friends who use aftermarket cables and chargers built for different phones and their phones are fine so I take that cause with a grain of salt.
Having said that, did you do any modifications to the phone, whether it be software or hardware? When it was getting hot, did you do anything about it?

geokilla said:
Normally using a different cable and charger wouldn't have such an effect. I know many friends who use aftermarket cables and chargers built for different phones and their phones are fine so I take that cause with a grain of salt.
Having said that, did you do any modifications to the phone, whether it be software or hardware? When it was getting hot, did you do anything about it?
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No, I just got it. Didn't root or anything. When it got hot I rebooted the phone .. what is strange is that it didn't seem to always overheat. But it happened more than once on different chargers and cables.

I've been using a Samsung charger and cable that came from a galaxy s4 on so many different phones and nothing ever happened to them. Even have charged my one plus one with it. It was charging very slowly so I just used the one it came with and it charges at full speed.
Try talking with a different person and not mention using a different cable and charger. Its definitely not because of that. You deserve a new one.
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How??

abhishekv09 said:
How??
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Exactly...

abhishekv09 said:
How??
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Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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timmaaa said:
Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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kinda like using a skill saw on one of those two dollar 12' household extension cords. everything gets hot.

It's really odd. The One itself uses a pretty powerful 2A charger :/
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Hmm... did you charge your phone directly when it was still hot?

timmaaa said:
Probably due to using a cable that isn't rated to carry the current that the charger outputs and that the phone draws.
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Thing is if a charger comes rated at a high output amp, they usually ship an appropriate gauge cable for it. I'm pretty sure Samsung would've shipped a 28/24AWG Micro-USB cable with a 1/1.5/2A (maybe not 1A) charger to prevent the wire from melting out. My guess is OP probably mixed cables with chargers. It's common to have multiple Micro-USB to USB cables these days given most electronics support. Most of the time these cables are 28/28 gauge. I am guessing OP used a 28/28 with a high amp charger (although the standard S3 charger seems to be rated at 1A from my search results). Seems like OP used the OnePlus One charger rated at 2A with a cable which was probably rated for 0.7-1A (that seems to be the standard S3 charger's output).
Can we get more info on what charger and what gauge cable was used OP?

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Thing is if a charger comes rated at a high output amp, they usually ship an appropriate gauge cable for it. I'm pretty sure Samsung would've shipped a 28/24AWG Micro-USB cable with a 1/1.5/2A (maybe not 1A) charger to prevent the wire from melting out. My guess is OP probably mixed cables with chargers. It's common to have multiple Micro-USB to USB cables these days given most electronics support. Most of the time these cables are 28/28 gauge. I am guessing OP used a 28/28 with a high amp charger (although the standard S3 charger seems to be rated at 1A from my search results).
Can we get more info on what charger and what gauge cable was used OP?
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
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Yeah, that's exactly what I said.
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I was just trying to bring the odds of this happening to my phone closer to nil with a possible scenario so I could sleep better tonight after leaving it on charge :silly:

Everybody got a phone charger and cable with their phone right? Why would you use some other cable or charger then? Especially now that it seems that its possible to have your phone melt with using 3rd party equipment, why would you still not use the charger/cable that came with the phone? To me thats like buying a truck, putting different wheels on it and getting pissed when something happens.

Red5 said:
Everybody got a phone charger and cable with their phone right? Why would you use some other cable or charger then? Especially now that it seems that its possible to have your phone melt with using 3rd party equipment, why would you still not use the charger/cable that came with the phone? To me thats like buying a truck, putting different wheels on it and getting pissed when something happens.
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Convenience of not carrying that same cable everywhere? OP seemed to be using chargers at home and in his car, so it's easier to have a cable for each of those chargers.

Maybe the phone is defective. I hate it when OEM'S being cheap.
C'mon One Plus. Don't be like the ****ty samsung. Make the difference

Hey, you can easily and realitively cheaply change the plastic back cover on the OPO. Just purchase an original back cover replacement from OPO. It comes in various colors and even in bamboo. If the metal plug is still ok and only the plastic melted, you should be ok and still have a 100% original phone.

freeewilly said:
Hey, you can easily and realitively cheaply change the plastic back cover on the OPO. Just purchase an original back cover replacement from OPO. It comes in various colors and even in bamboo. If the metal plug is still ok and only the plastic melted, you should be ok and still have a 100% original phone.
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He needs to change the fried motherboard

sabrefresco said:
I was just trying to bring the odds of this happening to my phone closer to nil with a possible scenario so I could sleep better tonight after leaving it on charge :silly:
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Leaving it on charge overnight isn't good for the battery anyway, the more time a lithium battery spends at peak voltage (4.2v) the faster it degrades.
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WHen you don't have the official charger/cable with you, I ALWAYS tell people to charge it via a computer USB port (0.5 A) instead to be on the safe side (with whatever cable you plan to use).
And never mix/match your USB cable/charger ports.

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Be VERY Cautious (Wrong Charger)

I've come across a second individual on this forum who has ruined their phone by using an incorrect charger within the last week. I can't stress the importance of making sure you are using valid chargers. Samsung ports are VERY sensitive and from personal experience are expensive mistakes to make. One MAJOR thing I've noticed that most seem not to is the following:
When the phone is plugged in and charging, you notice it becomes less responsive and or buggy while texting or unlocking. Also while charging, haptic seems to get stuck or seems to happen at random intervals when using the phone. Another major one some completely ignore, when the phone actually pops up a notification to enter usb mode while plugged into a charger and not a computer.
Just a warning...
Any more details on what conditions are problematic? I've been using non-Samsung chargers and cords since September with no issue.
I've been using a BlackBerry (Storm1) charger on mine since Christmas with no problems, I mainly use it as I need a much longer cord length than the Samsung.
I also used it on my D1 with no problems.
Still, I'll keep an eye out for glitches, thanks.
I purchased a Samsung OEM charger from Amazon.com (marketplace) for less than $5 to use at my desk at work. I found it by going to samsung.com, finding the item number of the charger I wanted, and searched Amazon that way. It's not a detachable USB charger like what came with my phone, but I assume it's legit. I mean who would manufacture and sell counterfeit phone chargers?
yeah I am curious about this too; I just took USB as to be universal
You can use any charger you want so long as it supplies the correct voltage.
that is electronics 101
I get the USB prompt when charging in my car because it is supplying the voltage that a computer would supply, and less than what an AC charger would supply.
AnotherLameUser said:
You can use any charger you want so long as it supplies the correct voltage.
that is electronics 101
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Negative ghost rider...I've encountered those that have different pin layouts before, fried my samsung moment...but it is true, voltage is key.
You also must be aware of the amperage of the transformer in the charger.. if the amperage is too low it will cause a voltage drop
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Negative ghost rider...I've encountered those that have different pin layouts before, fried my samsung moment...but it is true, voltage is key.
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USB is a standard, why would it have a different pin layout?
I'm using a "rocketfish" micro USB cable and USB ports to charge my fascy. Could this pose any issues?
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Skrazz said:
I'm using a "rocketfish" micro USB cable and USB ports to charge my fascy. Could this pose any issues?
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Check to see the stock setup and compare. I just decided to post this as a word of caution b/c I was questioned earlier if it was normal that their phone would loose sensitivity and act choppy when plugged in.
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Check to see the stock setup and compare. I just decided to post this as a word of caution b/c I was questioned earlier if it was normal that their phone would loose sensitivity and act choppy when plugged in.
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My touch screen would act weird when on the stock rom using the SAMSUNG USB cable and charger that came with the phone.
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My touch screen would act weird when on the stock rom using the SAMSUNG USB cable and charger that came with the phone.
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Then something is wrong. If you notice it starts jumping around when plugged in, there is a flux in flow or some of the pins have been messed up.
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USB is a standard, why would it have a different pin layout?
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USB itself is a standard (it will always output 5v at up to 500mA). Charging over aUSB port its defined by the manufacturer, and can vary greatly.
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Charging over a USB port its defined by the manufacturer, and can vary greatly.
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I read that in more of a "what kind of a sadist would design his micro usb charger to behave differently from another?" kind of of way. It's a heck of a cruel practical joke given that
A) phone makers have finally standardized to micro usb after already creating a huge mess with chargers in the past.
B) micro USB is practically exclusive to mobile devices.
C) if there really are cables that use different wiring, there is no easy way to tell.
FWIW I am getting by just fine with a ultra cheap Chinese USB car charger and micro USB cable combo. I also have interchangeable Plantronics, LG, and generic AC USB chargers that I plug ight same cables into. No issues, luckily for me. Pretty disappointed to find out I have dodged a bullet here.
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LG: 0.2A in, 5.1V, 0.7A out
Samsung: 0.15A in, 5.0V 0.7A out
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Then something is wrong. If you notice it starts jumping around when plugged in, there is a flux in flow or some of the pins have been messed up.
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But the thing is, after I flashed a new rom, I had no more problems.
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USB itself is a standard (it will always output 5v at up to 500mA). Charging over aUSB port its defined by the manufacturer, and can vary greatly.
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The wonderful thing about standards is that there is so many to chose from. : /
I've been dodging the bullet too with my cheapo car charger although strange behavior would have thrown up a flag.
When I visited my parents and used my dad's charger my screen would not work when plugged in.
I guess I should consider myself lucky...
Been using cheap,knock off chargers we sell at work since day one never had a problem, also use an after market droud one charger at night. come to think about it I never really use a sammy charger
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No Charger In The Box?

Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
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Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
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I would hope that the listing isn't completed for the box because it's not out yet. I'm hoping that it uses a 2A charger, in which case most people don't have so they would supply it.
Despyse said:
I would hope that the listing isn't completed for the box because it's not out yet. I'm hoping that it uses a 2A charger, in which case most people don't have so they would supply it.
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It follows the policy for Amazon Kindle HD 8.9, where no charger is included but it includes the micro USB charging wire. Also, Nexus 4 includes all the accessories including charging wire and the charger.
Best regards,
Dr_Knickers said:
Has anybody noticed that the Play store listing for the Nexus 10 only lists the tablet?
Maybe they wanted to save a few bucks and figured that we'd all have phones with a charger cable already, but it's kinda lame that we'd be paying $400+ for a tablet and we won't even be getting a charger with it. I'm going to have to buy a separate cable for it myself; I kinda want to charge both my tablet and my GNexus at the same time.
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I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
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I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
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Yeah, thankfully you're right :victory:
I can see the charger in these pictures!
http://www.engadget.com/photos/nexus-10-review/#5408320
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Yeah, thankfully you're right :victory:
I can see the charger in these pictures!
http://www.engadget.com/photos/nexus-10-review/#5408320
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I was going to link that photo gallery. Looks like the same exact 2-piece AC adapter the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 uses.
MikeBuck said:
I'll be amazed if they don't supply a charger, i think it more a case of they are not listing it because of regional differences, I got a Sony Xperia S Tablet and noticed that the charging accessories changed for different countries, some would have just a socket to usb convertor, but i got like a mini laptop AC brick as we use 240v in the UK, not 120, so best to just leave it off for now.
I will be interested to see if they charge through the microUSB or via a magnetic charger as standard, and if they charge from MicroUSB, how much the magnetic charger would be
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Does the Nexus 10 support wireless charging too? That's pretty cool if so. I think about now is the cue for IKEA and the like to start producing high-end tables which automatically charge anything on top of them. Then you can truly be wireless (well, the table would have to be plugged in, but the odds are you could hide the wire from sight). Since the table is powered, they might as well give it a backlit surface, too. Now that would be a table.
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Does the Nexus 10 support wireless charging too? That's pretty cool if so. I think about now is the cue for IKEA and the like to start producing high-end tables which automatically charge anything on top of them. Then you can truly be wireless (well, the table would have to be plugged in, but the odds are you could hide the wire from sight). Since the table is powered, they might as well give it a backlit surface, too. Now that would be a table.
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I've not heard anything about it, and Google would be shouting about it if it did, so i'd say it doesn't unfortunately.

1.8 amp car charger

Reading from the AC adapter, this thing can charge at 1.8 amps. I'm doing some research on car chargers that can output 2 amps to the phone via a USB cable, but the trick is getting the phone to pull more than .5 amps from a car accessory outlet. So far I haven't had much luck. There seems to be a lot of info on ipad stuff, but not much in the way of high powered Android devices. So I thought I'd start a thread about compatible car chargers that will allow a full 1.8 amp pull from my car outlet, and see what you guys and gals think and have tried. I've attached a pic of my current setup. It's a Proclip holder on a 2012 Mustang. I've used this same setup for several previous phones (S2 Skyrocket and S3). The holder itself is adjustable to accommodate various phones with cases.
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Reading from the AC adapter, this thing can charge at 1.8 amps. I'm doing some research on car chargers that can output 2 amps to the phone via a USB cable, but the trick is getting the phone to pull more than .5 amps from a car accessory outlet. So far I haven't had much luck. There seems to be a lot of info on ipad stuff, but not much in the way of high powered Android devices. So I thought I'd start a thread about compatible car chargers that will allow a full 1.8 amp pull from my car outlet, and see what you guys and gals think and have tried. I've attached a pic of my current setup. It's a Proclip holder on a 2012 Mustang. I've used this same setup for several previous phones (S2 Skyrocket and S3). The holder itself is adjustable to accommodate various phones with cases.
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Data pins need shorted together, either in the USB cig plug, or some micro USB cables are this way...
Additionally, the USB cable you use needs to have thick enough power wires to support 1.8A charge draw. Many USB cables use 28 AWG wire for the data conductors, and then you get varying degrees of wire gauge for the power conductors depending on manufacturer. Some people use 28 AWG for both, some use 26, and good cables are made with 24 AWG wire. The thicker wire gauge means less resistance so less power is lost and more can be put into the battery. To pull a proper 1.8A the phone probably should have 22AWG power wire in the USB cable really...
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Reading from the AC adapter, this thing can charge at 1.8 amps. I'm doing some research on car chargers that can output 2 amps to the phone via a USB cable, but the trick is getting the phone to pull more than .5 amps from a car accessory outlet. So far I haven't had much luck. There seems to be a lot of info on ipad stuff, but not much in the way of high powered Android devices. So I thought I'd start a thread about compatible car chargers that will allow a full 1.8 amp pull from my car outlet, and see what you guys and gals think and have tried. I've attached a pic of my current setup. It's a Proclip holder on a 2012 Mustang. I've used this same setup for several previous phones (S2 Skyrocket and S3). The holder itself is adjustable to accommodate various phones with cases.
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Hi, not trying to hijack your thread, but can you tell me which case you are using? I like the fact that it has a large lip around the screen.
Thanks
What model pro clip holder is that? I need to replace the one from my nexus. May hold out for the G2 specific one with the cable built in (like the nexus one I have now), but no telling how long that will be.
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Hi, not trying to hijack your thread, but can you tell me which case you are using? I like the fact that it has a large lip around the screen.
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It's the Body Glove case from the AT&T store. It was the only one they had at the time, and I didn't feel like waiting to order one so I overpaid in exchange for some piece of mind.
stetsonaw said:
What model pro clip holder is that? I need to replace the one from my nexus. May hold out for the G2 specific one with the cable built in (like the nexus one I have now), but no telling how long that will be.
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It's the holder I ordered for my Skyrocket a few years ago. It's a generic adjustable one that fits a lot of different phones with cases. It has fit my SR, GS3, and now my G2, all with cases.
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Additionally, the USB cable you use needs to have thick enough power wires to support 1.8A charge draw.
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I have a custom 5 inch up angle micro USB cable I ordered from www.usbfirewire.com. It is a very thick wire, thicker than the charging cable the G2 came with. The one in my pic is probably not thick enough for a 2 amp charge.
Here is an interesting article I came across about car chargers:
The Best USB Car Charger
EniGmA1987 said:
Additionally, the USB cable you use needs to have thick enough power wires to support 1.8A charge draw. Many USB cables use 28 AWG wire for the data conductors, and then you get varying degrees of wire gauge for the power conductors depending on manufacturer. Some people use 28 AWG for both, some use 26, and good cables are made with 24 AWG wire. The thicker wire gauge means less resistance so less power is lost and more can be put into the battery. To pull a proper 1.8A the phone probably should have 22AWG power wire in the USB cable really...
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Spot on. FWIW, the LG OEM cable is 20AWG on the power wires. This is the only viable explanation as I can't get the OEM wall charger to work with any cables I have sitting around (24AWG at best).
So would we be better off just using the factory charger with a power inverter or is there an actual car charger that will work?
Provided you short the data pins in whatever car charger you buy (if they arent already) and you get a cable with beefy power conductors then you should be able to draw 1.5-1.8A of power through a car charger. You have to make sure the car charger will do what you want though, many 2A chargers also have 2 ports to plug into. What they don't tell you is that each port is limited to 1A and both together will give 2A draw, but not to charge one device. The car itself also may limit power to the charger as well, I know my car specifically says 1.4A max through the cigarette plug. So it is possible to do, it is all just dependent on so many other things that you have to check off the list.
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So would we be better off just using the factory charger with a power inverter or is there an actual car charger that will work?
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That's what I'm trying to figure out. I'm tempted to try that Scosche charger, with my thick USB cable. I installed Currentwidget, so I should be ale to see at what rate I'm charging at if I decide to order it.
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So would we be better off just using the factory charger with a power inverter or is there an actual car charger that will work?
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I like the Powergen dual 2.1A USB charger I got off of Amazon. Has served me well. But really, anything 1.8A+ that's quality will do. The trick is going to be the USB cable. Still trying to source one from a reputable site, but you want something with 20AWG for the power. If I find something, I'll post it. Thus far I found two sites, kinda obscure, but not thrilled that the shipping alone costs more than the cables which run $6.
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EniGmA1987 said:
Provided you short the data pins in whatever car charger you buy (if they arent already) and you get a cable with beefy power conductors then you should be able to draw 1.5-1.8A of power through a car charger. You have to make sure the car charger will do what you want though, many 2A chargers also have 2 ports to plug into. What they don't tell you is that each port is limited to 1A and both together will give 2A draw, but not to charge one device. The car itself also may limit power to the charger as well, I know my car specifically says 1.4A max through the cigarette plug. So it is possible to do, it is all just dependent on so many other things that you have to check off the list.
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I suspect the phone can detect the charger capacity because my OEM LG cable works on both the Apple and Non-Apple ports on the Powergen charger. Since that's the case, the phone doesn't seem to care if the data pins are shorted or not. And the Powergen is advertised as 4.2A total, so 2.1A per port.
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I like the Powergen dual 2.1A USB charger I got off of Amazon. Has served me well. But really, anything 1.8A+ that's quality will do. The trick is going to be the USB cable. Still trying to source one from a reputable site, but you want something with 20AWG for the power. If I find something, I'll post it. Thus far I found two sites, kinda obscure, but not thrilled that the shipping alone costs more than the cables which run $6.
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Something worth considering is looking at charging cables labeled for tablets. They usually charge in this amperage range. I plugged my g2 into my kindle fire HD charger (1.8A) and didn't get any slow charge warnings.
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Something worth considering is looking at charging cables labeled for tablets. They usually charge in this amperage range. I plugged my g2 into my kindle fire HD charger (1.8A) and didn't get any slow charge warnings.
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Doesn't that come with the same Amazon branded usb cable you can get by itself? Take a look on the cable. A lot of times they label the wire gauge.
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my amazon branded micro usb cables are 28awg and they still allow quick charge with oem wall charger.
The charging issues associated with this phone has been a huge PITA. I've been carrying my stock cable around just so I can charge my phone!!! Subscribed so I can maybe help out with some info...
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my amazon branded micro usb cables are 28awg and they still allow quick charge with oem wall charger.
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Are you certain that's not just the data side that is 28awg? Very surprised you can pull 1.8A at 28awg.
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Doesn't that come with the same Amazon branded usb cable you can get by itself? Take a look on the cable. A lot of times they label the wire gauge.
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They are unmarked.

Sync - charge cable

Anyone else surprised at how thick the Sync - charge cable is compared to the GT-N8000 series cable.
Does anyone know where to get a spare just like it except in black at a reasonable price?
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Anyone else surprised at how thick the Sync - charge cable is compared to the GT-N8000 series cable.
Does anyone know where to get a spare just like it except in black at a reasonable price?
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Not really. The cable for my S4 is pretty much exactly the same. The charger for my S4 has the highest current output of any of my chargers and I put the size of the cable down to a need for low resistance so the tablet can benefit fully from the high current.
i did a big ole test with various chargers and cables with different devices and found this cable:http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5459&seq=1&format=2 to be just as good as the stock cable on the stock charger according to kill-a-watt. the s4 and gnote 8 cable only pulled 10W while the monoprice and gn 10.1 2014 pulled 11W.
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i did a big ole test with various chargers and cables with different devices and found this cable:http://www.monoprice.com/Product/?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5459&seq=1&format=2 to be just as good as the stock cable on the stock charger according to kill-a-watt. the s4 and gnote 8 cable only pulled 10W while the monoprice and gn 10.1 2014 pulled 11W.
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Odd that you had any kind of real world success with those cables. I have used Monoprice cables for years and love them, but I have several of those same cables in lengths from 3-15 feet and every one of them charges at half the rate or less of the stock cable. I normally get >1000 mAmp with the stock charger and cable, but only get ~500-750 mAmp with stock charger and any of my Monoprice cables I wish they charged at the same mAmp rate b/c I like having a longer charging cable. Has anyone else had this issue or found a 6 to 10 foot cable that still charges at the same mAmp rate of the stock cable?
If you double the length of a cable, you double its resistance. It's not possible for a longer cable to pass as much current unless it is proportionally thicker. The stock cable is both short and thick; that is why it works so well.
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Odd that you had any kind of real world success with those cables. I have used Monoprice cables for years and love them, but I have several of those same cables in lengths from 3-15 feet and every one of them charges at half the rate or less of the stock cable. I normally get >1000 mAmp with the stock charger and cable, but only get ~500-750 mAmp with stock charger and any of my Monoprice cables I wish they charged at the same mAmp rate b/c I like having a longer charging cable. Has anyone else had this issue or found a 6 to 10 foot cable that still charges at the same mAmp rate of the stock cable?
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I was surprised myself. I have a lot of the six feet monoprice (or 5) and none of those pulled as much wattage. I was actually trying to see which workedmwith my t100 and found that the t100 3 footer and gn101 2014 and the monoprice 10footer were the only ones that pulled 11 watts. the 5 pulled only 8watts.
if I have time tomorrow I'll redo all my tests with various chargers and devices and list the killawatt results. I dont know how much current actually gets to the device, only whats being pulled from the wall. the charge percent per hour reported by bmw pro seems to show they equal though from a small sample.
Is it bad to use the note charger to charge my s3?
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Is it bad to use the note charger to charge my s3?
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Not at all. Any charger should work; the only difference between chargers is their maximum current output but the device determines what current it draws so there isn't any risk in using a charger with a higher maximum current than the supplied charger.
i was corrected when i stated the same. the output of the gn10.1 charger is 5.3v while most others are 5v. it may not be enough difference to cause any harm, but be aware that there may be a chance of damage over time. the voltage will be constant, but the amperage is what is controlled by what the phone requests.
that said, i haven't had any problems with my s4, t100, gn8 or gn2 yet.
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I was surprised myself. I have a lot of the six feet monoprice (or 5) and none of those pulled as much wattage. I was actually trying to see which workedmwith my t100 and found that the t100 3 footer and gn101 2014 and the monoprice 10footer were the only ones that pulled 11 watts. the 5 pulled only 8watts.
if I have time tomorrow I'll redo all my tests with various chargers and devices and list the killawatt results. I dont know how much current actually gets to the device, only whats being pulled from the wall. the charge percent per hour reported by bmw pro seems to show they equal though from a small sample.
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Any results from the monoprice cables? I need a few new cables as half of mine decided to go bad all at once
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Any results from the monoprice cables? I need a few new cables as half of mine decided to go bad all at once
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my tests would actually be inconclusive since the killawatt can only judge the amount of current that the charger is delivering and not the final amount that the device actually gets.
from a short test last night i found the actual amperage that the monoprice 10' ferrite core cable is arounf 1700mAh where the 3' stock is 1900mAh.
those results are from battery monitor widget pro. i'd consider it a good trade off for getting 7 extra feet. the 10' is only a few dimes more than the cheap 5' cables. for some reason the 5' wouldn't coax the charger to pull as much from the outlet as the 10' did.
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i was corrected when i stated the same. the output of the gn10.1 charger is 5.3v while most others are 5v. it may not be enough difference to cause any harm, but be aware that there may be a chance of damage over time. the voltage will be constant, but the amperage is what is controlled by what the phone requests.
that said, i haven't had any problems with my s4, t100, gn8 or gn2 yet.
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That's a fair point but I don't actually thinks it's an issue.
The USB 2.0 standard requires that the voltage be 5.0V ± 0.25V so the maximum voltage (which any USB compliant device should be able to cope with) is 5.25V. The Note charger is rated for the output at the charger not the cable since the cable is not an integral part of the unit. There will be a small voltage drop caused by the cable so the actual output at the phone will be within spec and therefore safe.

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I have seen some comments and reviews that some USB-C cables are dangerous to use on our phones. Mainly the "Amazon Comment" from a Google Engineer who said that a particular USB-C cable could harm the device.
I am looking to buy some cheap Micro-USB to USB-C adapters for my current chargers, does anyone know if they are safe to use?
Is there a thread that has all the tested and confirmed cables, adapters and chargers? Seems this USB-C thing is more confusing than I though it would be.
I think you are better off buying a USB 2.0 Type A to Type C cable instead of a micro USB adapter. This one has been recommended:
http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Braided-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFSL4/
Something like this is NOT compliant, according to the same Google engineer:
http://www.amazon.com/Adapter-TechMatte®-Convert-Connector-OnePlus/dp/B0151RKYBG/
bummer, I don't need "fast charging" all the time so I'm ok with standard charging speed for the most part. However I certainly don't want to "harm" my device with a cable or adapter that is not properly engineered.
Most if not all of the cables he recommends are around $20 for just a cable. Craziness...
I don't think you will damage the phone, but there's a risk you will damage the other side, i.e. charger or computer port. Now frying a $10 charger is not a big deal as long as you are not setting the house on fire, but frying a computer USB port is a different story ... that's what I'm really worried about.
I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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Been steadily increasing since the engineer made his post. I understand, but on the other hand, I need a cable.
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I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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Good thing I ordered 2 the day the article came out. I thought they would raise prices with all the free publicity they got from the article.
What about those from one +? I bought a couple when they were in Stock
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I love how iOrange raised prices on their cables by $4-5 each. That's a 25% increase since gaining popularity yesterday.
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good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13009&seq=1&format=2
If i you don't need 3.0 data speeds, thats the way to go. There is a google doc put together on reddit from all of Google engineer's comments/posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/
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https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030319&p_id=13009&seq=1&format=2
If i you don't need 3.0 data speeds, thats the way to go. There is a google doc put together on reddit from all of Google engineer's comments/posts: https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3robzo/google_spreadsheet_for_usbc_cables_with_benson/
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Based on the photos, it seems identical to the cable Google sells. Wouldn't be surprised if they both came from the same place.
My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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good enough reason for me to go with a different company. i hate when companies do that.
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My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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I leave my stock charger in the living, but I want an adapter for overnight use to plug it in to my 2.4v Nexus 7 charger that stays in my bedroom.
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I leave my stock charger in the living, but I want an adapter for overnight use to plug it in to my 2.4v Nexus 7 charger that stays in my bedroom.
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The 6p comes with 2 cables already... One usb-c>usb-c and one usb-c>usb-a... So use the usbc/c cable for home and the usbc/a cable for travel.
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My question is this: why are people buying all kinds of usb-c to other versions of usb cables? The phone comes with everything one needs to charge or plug into a computer. Unless everyone wants cables for every room in the house...?
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Work, car, etc. I don't want to remember to take the charger/cable with me to work or in the car, I just want to leave them there. And the short cable that comes with the 6P is well ... too short. If you have a desktop computer sitting on the floor or want to charge from the wall or the car, it's just not good enough.
Fair enough!
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The 6p comes with 2 cables already... One usb-c>usb-c and one usb-c>usb-a... So use the usbc/c cable for home and the usbc/a cable for travel.
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This has nothing to do with travel. and the c-a cable it comes with is too damn short to use for much beyond data transfer. Unless the USB a charger is literally plugged in right next to where the phone is going to sit.
I'm trying to figure out how this new charging thing works as far as the required cable/charger.
I bought the iOrange-E cable from Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/iOrange-E-Braided-Reversible-Connector-ChromeBook/dp/B010VFFSL4/
I have a charger from my old Galaxy S4 that is 5V-1A. When I plug the iOrange in that charger and to my phone, it will say "Charging" but will not steadily charge. What I mean by that is that it'll change states to charging, then it'll stop charging, over and over again.
Another charger I have is 5 V - 2.1 A. With the iOrange cable, this works fine. It will say "Charging."
I have an Anker car charger. This is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FYQKMRG?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_search_detailpage
I'm not sure what the V/A is on that but with the included USB C -- USB A cable that was shipped with the Nexus 6P, it will charge.
I don't have the USB specs but does anyone know what the minimum is for simply "Charging"? How about "Charging Rapidly?"
I'm assuming my 5V - 1 A charger is too low since it doesn't seem to charge the 6P properly.
I saw the same thing with an HTC 1.5A charger. It charges for a few seconds and then it stops. Not sure what's going on, you'd think that it could at least pull the 500mA or 900mA per the USB spec. Another Anker charger that I have works.
I have this adapter Delmkin
It passes compatibility test using this app CheckR when hooked up with a tronsmart micro-USB cable.
Somebody mentioned that we have all what is needed inside the box and that's true and all but thing is most people don't want to carry their cables/chargers with them wherever they go. I have at least two charger with cables in each room of the house. One in each car and one at work. Makes it convenient since micro-USB cables/chargers are so cheap. Now with USB-C its a different story. One these cables are not cheap at all and now we are learning most of them aren't even complaint with the specs. So it helps to have a tiny adapter to be able to use all the cable I already own with Nexus 6P.

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