Hi all,
I am really turn between the LG G3 and the NOTE 4
in my country, the price difference is about 250$
my "fear" regarding the NOTE 4 is that i wont really use the S PEN
I feel that its a cool thing to play with for about a week and then forget about it.
i saw lots of reviews and the main thing i saw were:
write phone numbers and name to put as a contact- seems like an action i do once a month. tops
send screen shots- nice but not an everyday task for me.
doodle- not relevant for me
all pen apps are for samsung apps and not for GMAIL and so...??
So.... am i missing something?
if any of you feel like sharing what you really do with the s-pen, especially as a student or at work (engineer) it will be really great.
My phone use profile consists off:
- i rarely use the cell for talking
-a lot of browsing- looking up for articles (as a student or at work)
-GMAIL
-WHATSAPP
-games: rarely
THANKS
dman230 said:
Hi all,
I am really turn between the LG G3 and the NOTE 4
in my country, the price difference is about 250$
my "fear" regarding the NOTE 4 is that i wont really use the S PEN
I feel that its a cool thing to play with for about a week and then forget about it.
i saw lots of reviews and the main thing i saw were:
write phone numbers and name to put as a contact- seems like an action i do once a month. tops
send screen shots- nice but not an everyday task for me.
doodle- not relevant for me
all pen apps are for samsung apps and not for GMAIL and so...??
So.... am i missing something?
if any of you feel like sharing what you really do with the s-pen, especially as a student or at work (engineer) it will be really great.
My phone use profile consists off:
- i rarely use the cell for talking
-a lot of browsing- looking up for articles (as a student or at work)
-GMAIL
-WHATSAPP
-games: rarely
THANKS
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It totally depends on you personally and what you use your device for.
Personally i use the S-Pen everyday - taking notes in meetings, i even use it for sketching and drawing. There's some pretty awesome drawing and painting apps available allowing me to be creative anytime and anywhere.
It also comes into it's own for usual OS tasks, selecting text, multiple documents, images, copying etc
I even sometimes just use it instead of my finger for usual stuff too, i dont really see the issue of people saying they would hardly use it, almost like it's some chore to take it out...
I feel that the S-Pen actually makes me use my device a lot more than i usually would! I don't think i could ever use a device without it going forward!
Cheers
Paul
paulrgod said:
It totally depends on you personally and what you use your device for.
Personally i use the S-Pen everyday - taking notes in meetings, i even use it for sketching and drawing. There's some pretty awesome drawing and painting apps available allowing me to be creative anytime and anywhere.
It also comes into it's own for usual OS tasks, selecting text, multiple documents, images, copying etc
I even sometimes just use it instead of my finger for usual stuff too, i dont really see the issue of people saying they would hardly use it, almost like it's some chore to take it out...
I feel that the S-Pen actually makes me use my device a lot more than i usually would! I don't think i could ever use a device without it going forward!
Cheers
Paul
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I see lots of people being that positive about the S pen, Yet I own the note series since the beginning. each time a new generation came, I was interested by the Spen features. However I don't use it as much as I thought I would be.. I don't know why, maybe its cause I suck at drawing
As a student you could take notes from classes on the note4, ye I know, small screen. Backup everything at every save so you don't loose any page or note. But you have to try it yourself. If you have a budget dilemma then go for the g3.
I'm a visual manager for a retail store. I use my Note 4 and it's S pen daily. I'm constantly making To Do lists and writing notes to myself. So that's actually why I got my Note 4. I always have my phone with me in my pocket, so it's easier to take it out and jot down some things than to carry a pen and paper... which I'll eventually have to set down in order to do something and then leave it there until either someone else finds it or I end up running around the store looking for where I put it.
I also use the S pen to sketch up floor plans. I even take photos of an area and make notes on it.
"Move this here" (using a drawn arrow to point from the object to the new location)
"Get rid of this" (X something out)
"Paint this wall yellow. This one blue."
Etc
I also use the S pen when I'm eating my lunch and don't want to get the screen all dirty with my messy fingers lol.
The honest truth is that if you're going to use the S pen for JUST writing down phone numbers or something, then you won't be utilizing it's full potential. In that case, why spend the extra money?
I'd suggest only get the Note 4 if you truly do a lot of writing that doesn't have to be on paper (such as having to submit hand written notes to someone). If you need to write a lot, and have no issue with the notes being digital (or printed from a printer), then this phone is worth it.
I actually had an LG G Pro and was very happy with it, but the phone didn't have a stylis. I ended up making the decision to get the Note 4 and so far, I'm quite happy with my decision. It sure as heck beats carrying a pen and paper around!
Yep I use the S-pen maybe once every two days. I use it when I come across complicated websites (ability to use it like a mouse is good), and when I RDP into PC's as it gives mouse like accuracy compared to fat fingers.
Although I would actually give up the spen for a slightly smaller screen. I watch a lot of videos and browse the net a lot and the screen size is fantastic. But it's living with it which gets to me. It's just so big, having it in your pocket is extremely noticeable. Sitting down with tight pants is super uncomfortable and even just taking it out of your pocket you realise how big it is. I came from an S4, perhaps my next phone will be 5.5" or less. I still enjoy using my S4 (wifes phone now), and do miss the size of it. Hope that helps you.
i use the s-pen as a notebook. write all you want and hit print for hardcopy. you can actually print from the note 4 directly over wifi.
Note 4 caused me to remove all paper from my home office. I write all work notes in LectureNotes. I also use it as notepad after work - for new words, sentences, reminders and todos.
For university note taking I prefer a tablet with stylus (I use Note 10.1 for that - I wrote hundreds of pages on it).
Besides s-pen, Note4 is the only phone working with Gear VR (snapdragon versions so far)
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I use the S-Pen for everything. I rarely is my finger. The S-Pen is so much easier to use when typing, tapping on links on a web page, playing games, etc. And the screen doesn't get smudged up.
Thank you all!
this is exactly what i was looking for, if anyone else wants to add his experience, it will be great.
still not so sure why writing on a screen with a pen is more comfortable than typing a screen keyboard.
I guess I'll visit SAMSUNG store and play with it a bit
That little Wacom pen is THE reason why I only consider the Galaxy Note line as my smartphone of choice. It's that important.
Jot down notes in OneNote just like on my Tablet PCs (thank god they finally added ink support!), sketch things in Clover Paint, work as a mouse substitute for those pesky mouseover navigation bars on Web sites, maybe even serve as an external drawing tablet with the right software; it's like having a Tablet PC in the palm of my hand, just with Android instead of WIndows.
I admittedly don't use it on the keyboard. There's no reason for me to do so when the sheer width of the screen makes it easy for me to just use my fingers, especially compared to the old Galaxy S3 I was stuck with for the last two years. The Graffiti input panel (remember Palm OS?), on the other hand, would work really nicely with the pen if I decide to use that again.
dman230 said:
Thank you all!
this is exactly what i was looking for, if anyone else wants to add his experience, it will be great.
still not so sure why writing on a screen with a pen is more comfortable than typing a screen keyboard.
I guess I'll visit SAMSUNG store and play with it a bit
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Sometimes its quicker to write a note than type. Sometimes you want to circle typet text to call it out.
Maybe you want to sketh a diagram. Pen is more accurate than finger.
Got a pdf file you want to write a note in? Or take a picture then circle something in the picture?
Just a few of many possibilities.
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Besides the obvious uses for the note tablet, what do you use yours for? I'm a freelance illustrator and the wacom digitizer and s-pen are what initially attracted me to the note phone, and now the note tablet, both allowing me to sketch on the go and minimizing the amount of time sitting in front of my desktop. Honestly even though I'm a huge tech person and love gadgets such as phones, i was never really into the tablet craze, especially after having a phone with a huge screen, i used a buddies iPad a few years back and didn't understand the buzz (with any apple product actually) but i started eyeballing the old note tablet as a new toy and tool for drawing and days later watched the IFA live on the computer and was sold on the Note 2014 edition, aesthetically it's great looking and has nice specs where I wouldn't have to worry about bogging it down. I love to game, avid xBoxer (when time allows) so the tablet would also serve as a good way to game while watching TV or laying in the couch without burning my phone battery up, and the drawing is awesome, but being drawing, gaming and browsing the internet, I don't know what else to use this thing for ... After dropping $600 + $60 for a 64GB sdcard and another $30+ in cases and accessories, I'm wondering if I just bought another really over priced laptop lol like I'm missing why people really enjoy the tablet, don't get me wrong I love it and refuse to give it up, I'm just looking for tips or advice on how to unlock the true potential of a tablet, like I said this is my first tablet, so any good apps? Games? Tricks? Tips? What role does your tablet serve in your life? Anything I guess that I might be missing, I've been rooting my phones for years and def plan to root this thing, and fully understand what a root can do to a device as far as unlocking extra potential, but beyond that just looking to see if I'm overlooking something awesome about tablets I could start using this for and really getting my moneys worth. Any advice is really appreciated! please excuse any typos lol I'm typing this using Swype on my note phone, and the auto correct has a mind of it's own.
Thanks.
Personally I use my pad as a more mobile laptop. I read on it, code on it, write on it... mostly read though. And games of course, can't forget about the games. Well, i guess i actually do everything on my pad, starting to get all itchy now since i broke the tf700t and am eagerly awaiting the new note. But hey, i guess you could produce some music on them as well... nothing a-grade but some snippets and loops here and there while waiting for whatever.
Mainly for communications, the rest for testing applications and gamea
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When home i use it as most probably do, Web browsing, forum reading through tapatalk, some games, social media etc. Basically a laptop replacement.
Its main purpose though is for use for college.
I use Lecture Notes extensively for note taking as well as all audios of lectures.
I found Class Buddy Pro to be great for scheduling all my classes when papers are do, when exams are etc (great app which syncs with any of your calendars) you can even attach files to the class itself (like a syllabus) and papers for assignments can be attached to the event you create for the assignment so you don't lose them (I use the paper the professors pop up on our internal web site so they are always available with me in an easy to find spot)
I use ezPDF Reader Pro for simple PDF annotations.
Mantano Reader Premium is by far the best PDF ePub textbook reading app out there. I need something which supports Adobe DRM and having tried every single app on the Play Store, I was blown away when I finally got to this one. While the interface is not as flashy as some of them, the nuts and bolts (reading, highlighting, annotating, bookmarking etc) cannot be beat.
This is my 5th tablet. I love my original Note 10.1 so much I bought this one the day a 32GB black one became available (I wanted / needed the higher resolution for anatomy books, really anything with pictures in them). Incredible piece of technology.
Since you like Wacom Digitizers, Google using the Note series as a Wacom Digitizer for a PC.
Porno and drawing porno.
if i had one of these and internet while i was going through puberty...
when i was a young chap we had to look at porn or video cassettes, uphill, both ways!
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if i had one of these and internet while i was going through puberty...
when i was a young chap we had to look at porn or video cassettes, uphill, both ways!
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If I had one going through puberty I would have been locked in my room for ages never once looking outside.
That reminds me, is Reagan still President?
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I use the 2014 Note 10.1 mainly for movie watching at the moment. Also owning an iPad 4 I use that for most anything else. Email reading and email management I do mostly on my Note 3, with its indicator light and easy deletion options (the iPad wants you to Archive in stead of delete).
I'm actively looking at other uses for the 2014 Note 10.1 though. Areas of interest include: drawing, decent internet browsing, HD games, reading, and music/audio playback. This could be a great device given the right software. It already is top of the heap in some areas.
Usage of my 2014 Note 10.1 is currently hindered somewhat by the lack of a proper (slim, light weight) smartcover. Right now I'm using an iPad 1 or 2 Belkin "woolen" type sleeve (great fit), but I'm hoping for something more like my beautiful/handy Decoded iPad smartcover.
Op, its really up to what kind of illustrating you are up to do.
As of now, painting and drawing loose is more easier to do, and the results will come out quite clean. However that's the extent of Sketchbook that comes with the note10.1 itself. Generally you'd want to go beyond that for reproduction pipeline, as well as refining for details in cases of print work. HOWEVER. I consider that actual painting beyond the tablet's ability.
Note 10.1 is GREAT for sketching. I feel like it gets the idea down fast, and the first 2 or 3 stages of an illustration is completed just using the tablet - such as the grey value drawing, the base color palette, and general composition. I've yet to find an app that goes to 4K resolution and comes with a decent set of tools. Someone at XDA might point me out on this, but for my own use, I bounce back to my usual pipeline on the PC after my sketch is completed.
Things the Note is also good at, is the beautiful display. Max your colors out and brightness, and you get a 2nd monitor. There are plenty of apps that turns your PC / Laptop into a 2nd screen. Generally for viewing purposes and color / value checking. More things you can do: Use the screen as color reference, use the note as photo ref when drawing, use it as a scanner! 8MP is decent if you snap a pencil drawing and then paint on top of it, as an artist my self, I find this thing similar to be a Swiss army knife, it use it for literally everything.
On another note! Pun not intended, the note is not yet capable of doing any adobe illustrator. It's a horrible set back if you're a vector artist - or a graphic designer that intend to pump out quick samples. I feel that the apps available right now are inadequate. It's quite a shame. my current work around is using splash top and connect it to my home computer.
Previously i was a Tab 7.7 user.
Main use was surfing, and reading books and scanned manga's. I got tons of those digitally and in paper form, same with European comic books. Now the later are usually printed in a A4 format, so it all got a bit to small on the screen. And next to that PDF manuals, big fast high resolution tablets make them better to watch :victory:
So when i went looking for a new tablet, one of the things, i wanted was a bigger screen, a higher resolution, and some decent processor power. I had been eying the Nexus 10, and the LG G Pad 8.3 that was coming. Nexus 10 like all nexus lacking and SD slot, and from what i later heard also did not work with a OTG + USB drive right out the box, was not an option. The G Pad 8.3 looked nice, but i felt it might still be to small a screen for the bigger books to displace well, and readable. So when the Note 10.1 2014 came and i read the specs, and saw the price tag, i though, it might be a bit pricy but it can do everything i want it to do and more. I must say im not disappointed by it yet
So the note safes me from having the lug kilo's of paper books around, they can stay in on my shelves now
OP, since you are looking at sketching etc, check out this article. It's in French but Google translate should help, and even if it doesn't the sketches speak for themselves.
http://goo.gl/Rm7jhO
The drawings were made with Sketchbook Pro which is included on the new Notes.
My original Transformer Prime became a laptop replacement for anything that didn't involve heavy lifting (development work, etc). Once I find a decent bluetooth keyboard I expect I'll be doing the same thing with this.
My primary reason for upgrading to this particular tablet is the screen as I will be using it for photography. I pull the pics off the camera via wi-fi and then I can preview/edit them on the tablet.
I just use my table for viewing movies while traveling.
The first time I ever saw an iPad in person, I began to lust for one. Then, I bought my son an iPod Touch and we grew to despise iOS. So when I upgraded my old "feature phone" to a smart phone, I went Android. I loved it and never looked back. My first phone was a Samsung Captivate. When we switched from AT&T to Verizon, I got the Galaxy S3 (which I still have, but I'm suffering from S4 envy now!).
My first tablet was the original Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. I loved that tablet. After a couple years, I decided it was time for an upgrade and went with the Asus Transformer Infinity, mainly for the hardware keyboard (with extended battery, full size USB port, SD card reader, etc). What a piece of $#!+ that thing is! The keyboard will not stay attached to the tablet when folded shut. Physically, it feels flimsy and cheap. The battery life - even with the "extended" battery - was worse than my old Galaxy Tab. The thing was incredibly sluggish, slow, and crashed a lot. I tried several custom ROMs and that made things a *tad* better, but not really. Using it was an exercise in frustration.
So, I just picked up the new Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition. I LOVE this tablet! Very high quality build. It feels good and solid in my hands. The thing is FAST and performance (based on my user experience) is amazing! The S-Pen is fantastic and I love using it! (I just wish it worked on my S3!). I feel comfortable and at ease with a tablet again. No frustration at all anymore! This is everything a tablet should be! Even if I never install a custom ROM on it, I think I would still be extremely happy with it!
My only desire now is for Samsung to hurry up and release the Book Cover case for it.
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The first time I ever saw an iPad in person, I began to lust for one. Then, I bought my son an iPod Touch and we grew to despise iOS. So when I upgraded my old "feature phone" to a smart phone, I went Android. I loved it and never looked back. My first phone was a Samsung Captivate. When we switched from AT&T to Verizon, I got the Galaxy S3 (which I still have, but I'm suffering from S4 envy now!).
My first tablet was the original Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1. I loved that tablet. After a couple years, I decided it was time for an upgrade and went with the Asus Transformer Infinity, mainly for the hardware keyboard (with extended battery, full size USB port, SD card reader, etc). What a piece of $#!+ that thing is! The keyboard will not stay attached to the tablet when folded shut. Physically, it feels flimsy and cheap. The battery life - even with the "extended" battery - was worse than my old Galaxy Tab. The thing was incredibly sluggish, slow, and crashed a lot. I tried several custom ROMs and that made things a *tad* better, but not really. Using it was an exercise in frustration.
So, I just picked up the new Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition. I LOVE this tablet! Very high quality build. It feels good and solid in my hands. The thing is FAST and performance (based on my user experience) is amazing! The S-Pen is fantastic and I love using it! (I just wish it worked on my S3!). I feel comfortable and at ease with a tablet again. No frustration at all anymore! This is everything a tablet should be! Even if I never install a custom ROM on it, I think I would still be extremely happy with it!
My only desire now is for Samsung to hurry up and release the Book Cover case for it.
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Congrats. This is my first tablet I have ever owned, although a few people in my family own one. Because I started school again, most of my books are in PDF form and I started taking notes with the Note 2014. Taking notes has been really good, very easy to erase things and move equations around to other pages.
I'm very happy with this device and I'm finding new ways to integrate it into my life as the days go by.
The display is key, but the hardware needs to support it to avoid a laggy experience. This is why the Asus 700 and Nook HD+ suffer and is why I got the iPad 4.
The 2014 seems to be the first Android tablet to cover all bases without some significant caveat. Catch is the price. The pen function adds expense and I get why folks that need the function love it. I will not use it, so will wait for a price drop. Would have waited for the A701, but have read enough and seen enough issues with the Shield and Toshiba tablets to stay away.
The 2014 covers all the bases and has a key thing (sd slot) that I need.
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The display is key, but the hardware needs to support it to avoid a laggy experience. This is why the Asus 700 and Nook HD+ suffer and is why I got the iPad 4.
The 2014 seems to be the first Android tablet to cover all bases without some significant caveat. Catch is the price. The pen function adds expense and I get why folks that need the function love it. I will not use it, so will wait for a price drop. Would have waited for the A701, but have read enough and seen enough issues with the Shield and Toshiba tablets to stay away.
The 2014 covers all the bases and has a key thing (sd slot) that I need.
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When you do use the pen though, the price becomes worth it. The level of software they had to program into using the pen makes it worth it if you definitely need it.
But if you don't use it, then I guess you'll have to wait for the Galaxy Tab 4.
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Congrats. This is my first tablet I have ever owned, although a few people in my family own one. Because I started school again, most of my books are in PDF form and I started taking notes with the Note 2014. Taking notes has been really good, very easy to erase things and move equations around to other pages.
I'm very happy with this device and I'm finding new ways to integrate it into my life as the days go by.
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What do you use to annotate on books? I'd think s note would take forever to navigate through a large pdf.
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What do you use to annotate on books? I'd think s note would take forever to navigate through a large pdf.
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I have a large number of pdf books including numerous Adobe DRM protected books. I highly recommend Mantano reader from the play store. I have tge oremium version but there is bith avlight and standard version.
The premium version adds so much functionality it is insane. All highlights, nites and bookmarks you have made are visible together on an index page fir each b9ok so you can easily find everyvnote you have made on a book or every highlight.
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All highlights, nites and bookmarks you have made are visible together on an index page fir each b9ok so you can easily find everyvnote you have made on a book or every highlight.
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That's an awesome feature! I'm waiting for my Note and plan to use LectureNotes in class. While thinking about my workflow with it I thought that this 'indexing highliter' would be a really awesome feature. Does anybody know if LectureNotes has this functionality as well?
I'm not a mobile device guru or anything, but I have used a pretty decent variety of devices. My last two laptops were "convertibles" (the monitor flips around and folds over the keyboard to become a tablet). Currently a Dell XT3, previously a Fujitsu Lifebook. I delved into the "UMPC" world. I had a Samsung Q1 for a while and also thoroughly tested the Black Diamond Switchback, OQO Model 2, and others for my previous job.
The S-Pen is not a mere stylus like what came with all the other devices I've used. One of my favorite features is the ability to toggle it so the touch screen does not recognize my hand. I can finally rest my hand on the display while using the pen without weird things happening. It's a small thing, but really big for me.
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What do you use to annotate on books? I'd think s note would take forever to navigate through a large pdf.
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I use ezPDF and take a snapshot of whatever I need in my notes. Then I paste it in and do stuff there. If anyone else has a better of of doing things, please let me know.
@The_Maverick: There is no `indexing highlighter´ in LectureNotes, I am sorry.
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@The_Maverick: There is no `indexing highlighter´ in LectureNotes, I am sorry.
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Thanks for letting me know. It's probably no big deal, I haven't figured out my workflow yet anyway. But could you imagine implementing this somewhere down the road?
The scenario that I have in mind is the following: Whenever there is a definition in my lecture slides (currently in paper form), I highlight the name of what's being defined with a specific marker color. That way I can easily skim through my notes when I'm looking for a certain definition. Switching to the Note/LectureNotes, I thought it'd be really cool if all my highlighted definitions would show up on one central page as bookmarks/links, making it even easier to find what I'm looking for.
Anyway, I should probably not be making feature requests before ever really having used the app.
Thanks for being such a responsive developer!
@The_Maverick: LectureNotes allows to attach keywords to notebook pages and creates a table of contents and an index from that (either for individual notebooks, for all notebooks in a folder, and for all notebooks on the notebooks board). This is the second part of the suggested functionality, the first part where highlighted material becomes a keyword is missing, you need to type the keyword manually.
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@The_Maverick: LectureNotes allows to attach keywords to notebook pages and creates a table of contents and an index from that (either for individual notebooks, for all notebooks in a folder, and for all notebooks on the notebooks board). This is the second part of the suggested functionality, the first part where highlighted material becomes a keyword is missing, you need to type the keyword manually.
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Cool. Thanks for the help. I'm definitely looking forward to using LectureNotes. It's the biggest incentive for me to get the Note.
I mainly bought this for the great screen, multitasking, and the SD Card slot...but I must say that I have been surprisingly happy with the S-pen and all the functionality it brings! I wish I would have had this while in college.
I also wish the S-pen would work with my S3. The Note phones are all too big for me, so we'll see what the S5 will bring. I highly doubt it, but it'd be awesome if the S5 could use the S-pen too (even if it didn't come with one).
I used to think the Notes were too big, but after using one for awhile it seems rather normal. I think because they slimmed down the 3 a bit it's not bad.
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Just wondering why everyone does not just use S Note which is built in to the device for all your note taking needs
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Just wondering why everyone does not just use S Note which is built in to the device for all your note taking needs
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LectureNotes is much more customizable. It's quite possibly the most perfect note taking app that exists anywhere, including Windows, Android, or iOS.
The ONLY thing I wish it had is the ability to add an expandable sticky note to either notes or PDF's I'm annotating.
@han solo
and maybe it would be great if the Lecture Notes UI would move somewhere near the Android HOLO conventions... been using Lecture Notes for a long time now and I still keep forgetting where which menu item is hiding.
Otherwise, good app.
@Ulukaii1983: I try to keep functionality organized in a meaningful way, but I am always open for specific suggestions (in fact, I have moved several menu items following user suggestions).
@acadoid:
Hey many thanks for your reply! Glad that you still find the time to read the opinions about your app.
If you don't mind, I would post some UI recommendations in your other thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1870639&page=167
... but I please give me a little bit time to make some valuable recommendations.
Hi,
I am going to buy myself first tablet and I need some suggestions. I am looking for nice tablet with not too high price tag. I narrowed down selection to two tablets: Tegra NOTE 7 and LG G Pad 8.3 (in conjunction with Jot PRO stylus).
Since I need tablet for school stuff my priority is note taking ability of a tablet so I would like to hear from those who already have Tegra NOTE if it is good enough to write down notes (does hand rejection also work in other apps or just in ones provided by Nvidia) or is it better to go with lg g pad and Jot stylus?
Thanks!
Tine17 said:
Hi,
I am going to buy myself first tablet and I need some suggestions. I am looking for nice tablet with not too high price tag. I narrowed down selection to two tablets: Tegra NOTE 7 and LG G Pad 8.3 (in conjunction with Jot PRO stylus).
Since I need tablet for school stuff my priority is note taking ability of a tablet so I would like to hear from those who already have Tegra NOTE if it is good enough to write down notes (does hand rejection also work in other apps or just in ones provided by Nvidia) or is it better to go with lg g pad and Jot stylus?
Thanks!
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Ok.... I might be doing it wrong. I haven't put much effort into playing with the settings and so forth. But I'm using the Write app that comes with it and frankly I think it's terrible. It's not even worthy of a grocery list, much less the type of note taking you'll need to do in a class.
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Ok.... I might be doing it wrong. I haven't put much effort into playing with the settings and so forth. But I'm using the Write app that comes with it and frankly I think it's terrible. It's not even worthy of a grocery list, much less the type of note taking you'll need to do in a class.
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I JUST got my Tegra Note 7 today, so no idea, but I use LectureNotes for note-taking on my Samsung Note 2 and it is great.
I will let you know how I feel about the Tegra Note soon... I went with it over the Note 8 (even though I have a note 2) because it was cheaper, newer and faster. As far as I know the G Pad is not a true stylus, the Samsung Notes use a true, active (Wacom) stylus, and the Tegra Note is something in between. Not an active stylus, so no "hover" support, but otherwise it is supposed to be comparable, and even have a bit less lag.
But again, we shall see soon enough...
Okay so here's what I found with taking notes in classes with this tablet. I am an avid fan of taking notes with my tablet. I used to do it on my Galaxy tab 3 7 inch but I found that I needed drawing capabilities because I'm an engineer and drawing out the free body diagrams on the board was nigh impossible. So I bought the Tegra Note 7 for its stylus and awesome processing power. Here's what I found through taking notes on tablets (both the Galaxy Tab 3 and Tegra):
1.) It's not paper. It won't feel like paper. It won't act like paper. You can't move it around like paper. So trying to take traditional pen and paper notes on a tablet is not feasible, even on the more expensive Galaxy Note tablets. We're just not at that stage of technological development yet. That doesn't mean styluses don't have their use though.... (I'll explain later on)
2.) If you want to take notes on your tablet, invest in a good physical bluetooth keyboard. This is so much nicer than trying to type with the on screen keyboard. Heck, I've even stopped taking pen and paper notes because its so much easier, faster, and more useful to type out notes than handwriting them. I use evernote. This syncs all the notes I take to a cloud. That means I can access those notes on my computer, my tablet, AND my phone. Without having to rewrite it or downloading it manually to every device. This is so useful when you're taking a poop and you're like, oh hey I can use this time to study. Just pull out your phone and boom! all your notes right there to read during your... lets just go with leisure time. So invest in a good physical bluetooth keyboard. And not one of those crappy ones that come with the cases. I use this one: Logitech 920-003390 Tablet Keyboard for Android 3.0 Plus.
3.) So what is the stylus good for? I find that its useful for more annotating PDF files and pictures. If I have time to prepare for a class before hand, I'll go through the professor's lecture and put in a base guideline for what my notes will look like. I'll place all the images that he/she will talk about and I'll pretype out notes for what's going to be said. Then during lecture, I just make adjustments to my notes as the professor talks. When he comes to a diagram or photo, I pull out the pen, and use the annotate feature on evernote to highlight or draw on important parts of the figure. This only works with classes where the professor gives out the powerpoints before class however.
So thats how I've been taking my notes. Hope it helped you decide!
Personally I was referring to taking notes by hand - with the stylus.
Now that I've used it for a week or so, I can say that (unfortunately) the Tegra stylus is nowhere near as good for writing longhand as the Galaxy note tablet which have an active stylus. After reading a few reviews I thought it might be close, but the Galaxy is so much more precise, especially for smaller handwriting.
For the price, and the fact it is not an active stylus the Tegra Note is pretty good, but if you plan to write your notes by hand with a stylus, the Samsung devices are where it's at right now (too bad they are so expensive!).
Was worth a shot. I'm probably very much in the minority of people who prefer to write my notes though. I just remember them better that way. I still like the tablet, especially for the price, but for now I'll keep using my Note 2 phone for notes, because even with the smaller screen, it's more comfortable to write with.
I've had the tablet for about a week and half now, and I absolutely love it. Since I've purchased the tablet, it's become a central part of note taking and studying for me. I just wanted to share how I use my tablet to study and I wanted to hear how everyone else else used their tablets for note taking so I could improve my setup.
So I use Evernote as the main app for note taking. I love its multiplatform sync ability. Whatever notes I take on my tablet will show up on my phone AND PC so I have access to my notes at all times. I also love that evernote has so many extensions (voice recording, document scanner, handwriting, etc). So this is the center of my note taking/ studying process.
I use the Logitech Keyboard for android tablets. I love it. Personally I think its well built and portable. Much better quality than those cheap keyboards that come with the cases. It's a little inconvenient to carry cause its essentially a separate device to carry around, but totally worth it for for the near laptop typing experience. I actually find that I don't use the stylus all that much. I'm an engineer so I thought I would absolutely be using the stylus but I find that its much easier to either type it out, copy paste the diagram I needed to draw from the professor's powerpoint (if they provide it before lecture), or just take a picture. What I do find really useful is using the stylus to edit pictures that I've taken. For instance, I was working on a prosthetic hand and needed to write down measurements. I just drew the measurements out on a picture I took of the hand! It was convenient and intuitive.
I use ANKI, a crossplatform flash card program/app that has latex capabilites. That means I can make flashcards with pictures, equations, chemical formulas, etc. I also love its formulic approach to flash cards so that it controls the amount of time that the card stays at the bottom of the deck so that you learn the concept long term instead of just cramming it into short term memory. What really makes this work is the combination of ANKI and evernote. I'll take the synced notes from evernote on my PC, and copy paste them into ANKI on my computer. Then tada! Flashcards are now synced to my phone, tablet, and PC with pictures, formulas, and questions with very little hassle.
So thats basically my note taking/ study setup. For those of you that use your tablet for taking notes or studying, how do you do it?
Thanks, I look forward to hearing your methods.
Mateyo64 said:
I've had the tablet for about a week and half now, and I absolutely love it. Since I've purchased the tablet, it's become a central part of note taking and studying for me. I just wanted to share how I use my tablet to study and I wanted to hear how everyone else else used their tablets for note taking so I could improve my setup.
So I use Evernote as the main app for note taking. I love its multiplatform sync ability. Whatever notes I take on my tablet will show up on my phone AND PC so I have access to my notes at all times. I also love that evernote has so many extensions (voice recording, document scanner, handwriting, etc). So this is the center of my note taking/ studying process.
I use the Logitech Keyboard for android tablets. I love it. Personally I think its well built and portable. Much better quality than those cheap keyboards that come with the cases. It's a little inconvenient to carry cause its essentially a separate device to carry around, but totally worth it for for the near laptop typing experience. I actually find that I don't use the stylus all that much. I'm an engineer so I thought I would absolutely be using the stylus but I find that its much easier to either type it out, copy paste the diagram I needed to draw from the professor's powerpoint (if they provide it before lecture), or just take a picture. What I do find really useful is using the stylus to edit pictures that I've taken. For instance, I was working on a prosthetic hand and needed to write down measurements. I just drew the measurements out on a picture I took of the hand! It was convenient and intuitive.
I use ANKI, a crossplatform flash card program/app that has latex capabilites. That means I can make flashcards with pictures, equations, chemical formulas, etc. I also love its formulic approach to flash cards so that it controls the amount of time that the card stays at the bottom of the deck so that you learn the concept long term instead of just cramming it into short term memory. What really makes this work is the combination of ANKI and evernote. I'll take the synced notes from evernote on my PC, and copy paste them into ANKI on my computer. Then tada! Flashcards are now synced to my phone, tablet, and PC with pictures, formulas, and questions with very little hassle.
So thats basically my note taking/ study setup. For those of you that use your tablet for taking notes or studying, how do you do it?
Thanks, I look forward to hearing your methods.
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Thanks for your mini-review! That what I was looking for, a simple tablet for note taking. Can you try Lecture Notes, I use that on my galaxy note, but want to know how it performs on this one.
I wan to read lots of pdfs and docs, how reading on it?
I found the included Write program to be extremely simple and efficient once you learn it. I loved it so much that when I got my hands on a Galaxy Note 2, I immediately installed it and have almost never used SNote... I also don't really use my TN7 nearly as much now, either, although it's still a badass gaming tablet, so I still use it for that. If you haven't been sold on Write, try looking into the features more deeply... their description of it as "a word processor for handwriting" it pretty spot-on, and I'd be lost without it. The only feature it lacks is syncing, but now that I have a GNote 2 instead of a regular phone and my TN7, I don't really need that feature as I'm no longer carrying two devices around with me.
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Thanks for your mini-review! That what I was looking for, a simple tablet for note taking. Can you try Lecture Notes, I use that on my galaxy note, but want to know how it performs on this one.
I wan to read lots of pdfs and docs, how reading on it?
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Reading on this tablet is great. I use "docstogo" for regular documents and pdfs. And I use "Moon Reader" for comics.
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Reading on this tablet is great. I use "docstogo" for regular documents and pdfs. And I use "Moon Reader" for comics.
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I have a few minor beefs with the write app but overall it has worked well for me. There were a few things I emailed the developer about and gave me a few tips that helped.
One beef was that it wouldn't respond to my fingers when I was trying to scroll around or zoom. That seems better in the last update though. The other thing is when you add an image to the document. When it is inserted and highlighted, it is very hard to grab the corner to shrink/enlarge the picture. Most times it de-selects the picture and I have to re-select it with the box tool, then when I try to resize it again, many times de-selecting it again.
My last "beef" is the size of the tablet. If it was a 10" or larger, it would be much better to write on. I have to zoom way in to write legibly, which means after writing a word or two, I have to scroll over to write more.
Just wondering what apps and games people are using to take advantage of the s pen?
I barely use it, I never take notes, I don't take many pictures and if I do I wouldn't need a remote, the media comtrols would be handy if the S pen battery lasted more than half an hour. I do use it for making cute live messages to send to my best friend Holly but that was about it.
I did just downloaded Google handwriting Input, didn't have much hope for it but I thought I'd just see what it was like, in comparison to my estimations of it, it is shockingly accurate, I wrote several full sentences, of mainly nonsense just to test, it didn't make a single mistake, not even one. At the moment, it was slower than typing on the keyboard, but I believe with practice I can see it becoming a faster way to input text as I improve.
But I'd like to know what the rest of you are using it for, useful apps, or fun games that a stylus helps with, like drawing based games, I've seen a few but they're pretty basic.
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But I'd like to know what the rest of you are using it for, useful apps, or fun games that a stylus helps with, like drawing based games, I've seen a few but they're pretty basic.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT6Op5I6sKg
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT6Op5I6sKg
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As much as I appreciate the thought, that video is nothing more than a description of the default uses and settings, it's not what I asked for. I already know exactly what it does out of the box.
I'd really like to see more developers add support for the S Pen, even if just in "normal" apps that don't otherwise require one. For example, the MobileSheets program for musicians to read sheet music has a function that lets you annotate or write on your music, but it doesn't support S Pen so no palm rejection, etc. Also, I accidentally discovered something incredible in Autodesk Sketch Book, that there's a tilt sensor in the S Pen, so when coloring using a "pencil," if you hold the S Pen at a low angle like you would with a pencil to use the "side" of the pencil lead, the stroke on the virtual page looks exactly like a real pencil would when held at that angle. This open up a lot of possibilities for using the S Pen as a game controller in ways other than just tapping on the screen with it.
As far as actual current uses, I love screen off notes, and the aforementioned Sketch Book app is a surprisingly enjoyable way to relax for a few minutes. I also use OneNote with my Note 10.1 and it's nice to now also be able to take quick notes in my notebooks when I don't have the tablet with me.
I don't use it much either. But it's nice to have it when it does have some usage scenarios. I do take screen off notes at times to remember things (ADD person). And when I cook food for example and I'm all greasy on my fingers and don't want to touch the screen and make it dirty. Sometimes I just use it while using the phone regularly. Makes it easier to swype to type. Also web browsing is easier specially fiddling with smaller drop down menus and such. It makes for more precise control. I do like it's GIF feature too when pulling the pen out (smart select) to make GIF's of videos or fire up the camera app and make a GIF of what you see in the viewfinder.
These are pretty much the uses I have for it personally. I can live without it sure. But it's handy at times.
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I'd really like to see more developers add support for the S Pen, even if just in "normal" apps that don't otherwise require one. For example, the MobileSheets program for musicians to read sheet music has a function that lets you annotate or write on your music, but it doesn't support S Pen so no palm rejection, etc. Also, I accidentally discovered something incredible in Autodesk Sketch Book, that there's a tilt sensor in the S Pen, so when coloring using a "pencil," if you hold the S Pen at a low angle like you would with a pencil to use the "side" of the pencil lead, the stroke on the virtual page looks exactly like a real pencil would when held at that angle. This open up a lot of possibilities for using the S Pen as a game controller in ways other than just tapping on the screen with it.
As far as actual current uses, I love screen off notes, and the aforementioned Sketch Book app is a surprisingly enjoyable way to relax for a few minutes. I also use OneNote with my Note 10.1 and it's nice to now also be able to take quick notes in my notebooks when I don't have the tablet with me.
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Yeah I'd like to see this too, I'm sure there's a lot of possibilities and interesting uses people could find for it.
I noticed that too haha, also by accident, it works in a couple of drawing apps I've tried, I don't think it's a sensor in the s pen though, I think it's just whatever is in the top that the screen detects, the same way it knows when it's hovering over the screen, maybe a magnet, or a coil or something. But however it works, it's a cool little feature.
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I don't use it much either. But it's nice to have it when it does have some usage scenarios. I do take screen off notes at times to remember things (ADD person). And when I cook food for example and I'm all greasy on my fingers and don't want to touch the screen and make it dirty. Sometimes I just use it while using the phone regularly. Makes it easier to swype to type. Also web browsing is easier specially fiddling with smaller drop down menus and such. It makes for more precise control. I do like it's GIF feature too when pulling the pen out (smart select) to make GIF's of videos or fire up the camera app and make a GIF of what you see in the viewfinder.
These are pretty much the uses I have for it personally. I can live without it sure. But it's handy at times.
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Yeah I'm a bit the same as you, I will sometimes just navigate through the phone using it and I agree it is quite good for browsing the internet too. I could live with out it, but at the same time I really want to find excuses to use it haha.
Samsung has not released the SDK for the spen. When they do there will be more apps that'll support the pen.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/samsu...ber-eyes-third-party-apps-for-remote-control/
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Samsung has not released the SDK for the spen. When they do there will be more apps that'll support the pen.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/samsu...ber-eyes-third-party-apps-for-remote-control/
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Oh cool, that's good to know. Hopefully we do start to see more uses for it.
Also I've found that air attack 2 is a great little game to play with the s pen, you move the plane around by hovering the pen above the screen, which is much easier than using a finger, and then you tap to drop bombs and atuff, quite a decent game as well.
With the days getting colder here in Germany I usually wear gloves when going outside. Consider myself as a heavy user including messaging, social media, surfing the web and reading News. So the S Pen allows me to write with my gloves on.
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Samsung has not released the SDK for the spen. When they do there will be more apps that'll support the pen.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/samsu...ber-eyes-third-party-apps-for-remote-control/
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Thy haven't released the SDK for the remote functions of the s pen. The other functions SDK was released and updated when needed since the beginning
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With the days getting colder here in Germany I usually wear gloves when going outside. Consider myself as a heavy user including messaging, social media, surfing the web and reading News. So the S Pen allows me to write with my gloves on.
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That's actually a very good point, and one I hadn't thought of, we're coming into winter now in the UK and I do wear gloves a lot of the time, and yes, the pen will make using the phone possible..... although, how to get it out while wearing gloves? ?
Precision in lots of places. Typing long important messages, games, scrolling, drop down menu, websites that aren't updated for mobile proper, drawing and of course if you write in languages like Mandarin or Sanskrit, Bam! S pen to the rescue.
I use it while im playing hearthstone which is super useful if im playing while its flat on a table
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Also I've found that air attack 2 is a great little game to play with the s pen, you move the plane around by hovering the pen above the screen, which is much easier than using a finger, and then you tap to drop bombs and atuff, quite a decent game as well.
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I downloaded this game last night and wasted a bunch of time on it... works great with the S-pen.
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I downloaded this game last night and wasted a bunch of time on it... works great with the S-pen.
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Yeah it's quite good isn't it haha, I've already spent several hours playing it. I quite like those sort of games if they're well made, I'm trying to find any similar, that work the same, most seem to need the pen to actually be touching the screen, so no different to a finger.
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Precision in lots of places. Typing long important messages, games, scrolling, drop down menu, websites that aren't updated for mobile proper, drawing and of course if you write in languages like Mandarin or Sanskrit, Bam! S pen to the rescue.
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Yeah I've been using the s pen for just general use, just as an excuse to use it, but I'm finding the odd things where it is better than a finger, like you say, anything that a bit of precision helps with.
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I use it while im playing hearthstone which is super useful if im playing while its flat on a table
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I've not played that, I'll have a look into it, thanks.
One of the greatest uses is the scroll down and scroll up within Google Chrome, man, makes reading websites a pleasure, single click of the button scroll down, double click scroll up.
But it's strange they implement it in Chrome and not in Samsung Internet Browser (which I use mostly because of the wonderful Samsung Pass)!!