[Q] Camera 2 API, manual control, and RAW (DNG) - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I recently read somewhere that Samsung have not implemented the latest camera API that supports full manual control and RAW output on Lollipop.. And I only found this out after going to the trouble of installing XtreStoLite INTL v.2.0 Lollipop BETA 4 on my 900i and trying to have some fun with Camera FV-5. I'm a little irritated at Samsung for this omission and hope they rectify the situation soon. In the meantime, are there any ROMs out there that have this implementation, or is it something that can only be pulled out of an official Samsung ROM once they get their act together? I've tried a CM12 nightly with no success as well. Camera FV-5 says there is no support, and L Camera just wont run at all.
Thanks

Ok, so I've done some additional research, starting here and here. In a nutshell it is up to Samsung to utilize the additional camera functionality that Lollipop has brought to the table, which among other things requires a reworked camera driver I believe (as mentioned here). And since I don't think we'll ever see a sufficiently capable open source camera driver it seems that we will indeed be at Samsung's mercy here when it comes to the arrival of features like manual camera control and RAW output on the S5 running Lollipop.

Thanks for your research. It is annoying that Samsung chooses to ignore this issue and not add more manual options. Maybe they're doing that on purpose so we buy their K Zoom series? No idea, but that's annoying since it is so easy for them to add that. Many companies have added manual controls even before kitkat! Samsung thinks they know how to optimize their camera better than us and want us to shoot the way they want us to shoot, not fair..

I was very disappointed with the Samsung for not implementing a new feature to the camera 2 api on lollipop. :crying::crying:

Even on BOA3 update there is no camera2 API support!
This update brings no audio lag: Who care about that?!
I'm really disappointed because some times ago I read an article: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8703/quick-note-android-camera2-and-external-isps
The Galaxy Note 3, S5, S4 Exynos, Note 4, and all Nexus device should support the full set of features in camera2 as they seem to only use an on-die ISP.
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So You can imagine how I feel.. :'(

+1 For this ... I am tired of being at Samsung mercy.

I'm afraid that S6 will kill any further development on S5.. so forget about camera2 API?

Shame on Samsung
I'm afraid DJ Palmis might be right.
Rumours are that the new S6 will support the Camera 2 API. This offers a possibility to differentiate the new flagship from the previous one.
But it hurts since I've bought the S5 plus only 4 months ago and I did this while I anticipated the new Android 5.0 functionality and specifically the
ability to use the RAW format. I can hardly accept that my new camera/phone should already have become obsolete.
I hope that it will be possible to derive a new driver from the new S6 driver.

Well, I e-mailed Samsung asking them when they would release an update with a new camera driver and the answer I got was (translated to english): "We will begin updating this successively but presently we unfortunately have no date for when the update containing the camera 2 API will be released. But the update is under development!"
So it seems they are atleast working on it.

Well done on getting a response. All I got was a silly canned reply from some customer service rep who clearly didn't understand what I was talking about.
Great news

https://mobile.twitter.com/supercurio/status/568832675458387968 Google translate is not so good.. Any help from french people?
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I have no hope.

http://samsung.hdblog.it/2015/03/07/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-supporta-le-API-Camera-di-Lollipop/ Camera 2 API on Galaxy S6.. What a surprise!

DJ Palmis said:
I'm afraid that S6 will kill any further development on S5.. so forget about camera2 API
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Not likely, Samsung still supports S3 and S4's for firmware updates, so I doubt when the S6 comes out, S5's will not be supported.

Not working on S6
DJ Palmis said:
http://samsung.hdblog.it/2015/03/07/Samsung-Galaxy-S6-supporta-le-API-Camera-di-Lollipop/ Camera 2 API on Galaxy S6.. What a surprise!
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I tested S6 and I don't have good news for all of You. Even though it fully passed the test of Manual Camera Compatibility application, manual functions of camera2 in Camera FV-5 are not available.

Not a big problem for me because I'll never buy a smartphone with an embedded battery and no sd card.
Anyway: Camera FV-5 was not compatible even with Nexus phones.
Just give them time to develop a compatible version.
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Minim3 said:
Not likely, Samsung still supports S3 and S4's for firmware updates, so I doubt when the S6 comes out, S5's will not be supported.
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It depends on the meaning of "firmware update". For example there will be no Lollipop for Galaxy S3. No news on Galaxy S4.
That's because when firmware upgrade is related to some deep OS changes.. Mobile brands simply ignore the old devices.

http://spectrastudy.com/camera2-api-on-mwc-2015-devices/ from the brand new Francois Simond website

Camera fv5 not compatible even with nexus phones?? What are you talking about? It runs for me!

explorer-10 said:
Camera fv5 not compatible even with nexus phones?? What are you talking about? It runs for me!
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Keep calm and I wrote "was"..

After the s5 I am done with samsung and their ridiculousness. High hopes for the 2015 N5

Hello,
I have worked on Android camera SW porting in my now defunct previous company (STEricsson). The fact that a phone supports the new API depends on several things all of which are not Samsung decision only.
The Samsung Android camera application (java one) depends on the Android framework Camera HW services abstraction. The Camera HAL. This camera service is implemented by whatever compagny provides the phone processor.
So if your GS5 uses a qualcomm processor, having the new Camera2 API depends on qualcomm implementing it.
Now for what is related to having support for RAW camera images it is more a system issue.
2 types of Camera chips exists. The ones that do all of the image processing on the camera chip itslef (SOC camera chips), the ones that delegate the image processing to the phone chip (RAW cameras chips).
The cameras that do the image processing in the camera chips (SOC cameras = system on chip cameras) usually directly stream jpeg images to the processor chip. With such camera, the famous RAW format stays inside the SOC camera and is hence not available to the phone processor (the qualcomm chip for instance).
The RAW cameras on the other hand do almost no image processing on their own, they send the raw images to the phone processor which will do the processing.
So in the end, if for a given phone (GS5 or other) Samsung has chosen to use a SOC camera you will never have RAW image support whatever the ROM you use, if Samsung chose to use a RAW camera chip, it is possible one day to have support for RAW images.

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!!galaxy camera announced by samsung!!

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Samsung*has announced the Galaxy Camera 2, the second iteration of its Android-powered dedicated point and shoot camera. The new camera has a new design that makes use of Samsung’s faux-leather material that we’ve seen on the Galaxy Note 3; it sports the same 16-megapixel camera with 1/2.33-inch sensor size, Xenon flash, and 21x optical zoom as the original, but comes with a new image processing system that Samsung says can deliver better pictures than before.
Samsung has also made a few additions on the software side, namely new shooting modes that bring the total up to 28. As was the case on the original Galaxy Camera, professional photographers will be able to fine tune settings such as ISO values et al. A few specs have been upgraded – the Galaxy Camera 2 sports a 1.6GHz quad-core processor, 2GB of RAM, 8GB of storage and a microSD slot, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and NFC connectivity, a 2000 mAh*battery that can capture up to 350 photos on a single charge, and Android 4.3 Jelly Bean, though users will still be viewing photos on a 4.8-inch 720p display as they did with the original.
The Galaxy Camera 2 will be on display at CES next week, where we’ll also find out info on pricing and availability. With little to no upgrades on the thing that matters most, i.e. the camera unit, it remains to be seen how much of an improvement the Galaxy Camera 2 offers in terms of image quality – hopefully it’s a considerable one, as the original was just a tad above average for a camera that cost $499.
SOURCE:SAMMOBILE.COM
Another Day Another Samsung Product
pff when will we get android 4.3 or 4.4?
Oh crap, this is indication that they're going to EOL the original camera.
Our only hope is that someone manages to port the ROM, seeing that the only things that changed: +200mhz proc, battery and NFC. (I trust Sammy is going to pull the userspace thing again and new buyers will find they have 4GB actual).
oh another let down...crappy sammy does it again
nielsvg said:
pff when will we get android 4.3 or 4.4?
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It does pretty much feel that Samsung has completely abandoned development on the original camera. Only a minor software update last year and no Android updates. Pretty poor way to reward early adopters.
I bought my Samsung Galaxy Camera for the features it has, not what it might have a year down the line or what updates it might get.
It does the job I want it to do and that's take pictures and access everything my S3 does so I'm not taking two devices on holiday. Very happy with the product.
Just wish the people whining that there is no updates or new software for their camera, root it or maybe you shouldn't have bought the camera if all you wanted was updates.
I have the original Samsung Galaxy Tab and it's only on ICS dual core spec. Still does everything the new tabs do but I have no need to change as I didn't buy it for what the future might do.
Horses for Courses
SausPud said:
I bought my Samsung Galaxy Camera for the features it has, not what it might have a year down the line or what updates it might get.
It does the job I want it to do and that's take pictures and access everything my S3 does so I'm not taking two devices on holiday. Very happy with the product.
Just wish the people whining that there is no updates or new software for their camera, root it or maybe you shouldn't have bought the camera if all you wanted was updates.
I have the original Samsung Galaxy Tab and it's only on ICS dual core spec. Still does everything the new tabs do but I have no need to change as I didn't buy it for what the future might do.
Horses for Courses
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You'd probably not be saying the same thing if your camera is stuck in version 2.3.6. (Like the Galaxy Camera's competing products :3)
Lucky the default 4.1.x is the one with the UI improvements eh, still, anything that does the job is great, but anything that can be improved without the need to rebuy hardware is all the more awesome and less wasteful. See: Galaxy S2.
Frankly the only change I want is the improved camera apps from the ZOOM and NX - and what I REALLY want is RAW. I had RAW on my old Canon S2IS by way of CHDK. That was awesome, no software processing on the final image so you know just how good your hardware actually is. The hardware on this thing is capable of it, mores the pity because JPEG loses a lot of definition.
To the person who mentioned only having 4 gb of space you're right. I just got my Galaxy Camera 2 today and the System memory takes up 4.42 GB of the 8gb that it has. Big bummer.
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I don't think the Galaxy Camera 2 looks as good as my first generation camera and the specs don't blow me away either. I just wish they would give us a firmware update in the meantime.
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To the person who mentioned only having 4 gb of space you're right. I just got my Galaxy Camera 2 today and the System memory takes up 4.42 GB of the 8gb that it has. Big bummer.
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That's pretty much par for the course with Samsung's Touchwiz.
I got the Galaxy Camera 2 about 2 weeks ago and I'm pretty happy with it. It's a small evolutionary bump from the Galaxy Camera. I really wish I could root it though.
Root!!! I made a request of Chainfire to create a CF-Auto-Root for the Camera 2. It's now available.
http://download.chainfire.eu/414/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-sf2wifi-sf2wifixx-ekgc200.zip
Spoke to a Samsung Camera Rep this week. Mentioned that the Original Smart Camera needs a software update for the new shooting modes that are already available on the S4, S5 and Camera 2. If they are not hardware reliant, then shouldn't be a problem and he is presenting it to head office.
Something or nothing might come out of this. you never know.
Galaxy Camera 2 HDMI
Hey XDA, I have been searching all over the web for this but can't find anything.
Is it possible to use the galaxy camera micro HDMI to connect to a touch screen monitor? I have no idea if HDMI has the capability of outputting touch signals as well as video and sound. I have looked at a couple of touch monitor options, often what I see is that they need usb input.
I found this monitor on ebay that has a controller board for touch input however it is more tailored towards the raspberry pi.
HDMI input LCD controller board+7inch 800x480 AT070TN92 lcd with touch panel
On the other hand I could get something like this which is designed for use in your car. The problem is that phones use their USB port which has MHL for use with these products. Which makes me think that straight micro HDMI to HDMI will not transfer the touch input into these controllers.
customgadz - OEM with Touch
Model UM-MM13-WT
or this one
customgadz - 7" USB capacitive touchscreen Monitor
Model MC-T070-KC12
This one might just be a HDMI monitor.
Any help you guys can give me would be great. I just can't wrap my head around this problem.
Also apologies if this is posted in the wrong spot, if so please give me the URL to the correct forum.

Lolipop NO Camera Raw, LOLIFLOP

ola,
just upgraded to last ftf, and oh surprise (actually i was sure that it would happend) no raw mode in the camera.
so what s the point to do the so called "best camera phone" and not have raw mode enable with lolypop?
if you have any tips trick for enable that, please share!
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z3 is my last device from Sony, I'm tired of being constantly disappointed by them.
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z3 is my last device from Sony, I'm tired of being constantly disappointed by them.
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Samsung S5 and HTC One M8 don't support RAW so what do you expect ?
Who gives a **** about RAW, is the manual control available?
admad said:
Who gives a **** about RAW, is the manual control available?
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From Sony application as before. Nothing more. It was a given: implementing the Camera2 API is not a small job... And is a commercial argument for the Z4 or Z5.
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Who gives a **** about RAW, is the manual control available?
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Some users report no manual mode and some say yes..can't understand how can Sony remove the manual mode
Sony didn't remove the manual mode, they just didn't apply it. And by manual I mean ofcourse manual ISO, shutter speed etc.
admad said:
Sony didn't remove the manual mode, they just didn't apply it. And by manual I mean ofcourse manual ISO, shutter speed etc.
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What do u mean they didn't remove and they didn't apply it?? More specific??
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What do u mean they didn't remove and they didn't apply it?? More specific??
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I mean that we had and have a thing called "manual" but available options to choose are very limited. Android 5.0 brings new feature that allows a true manual camera mode, like ability to set shutter speed. But for some reason (I think that kernald is right, commercial reasons to upgrade to Z4 etc. apply) they didn't implement it, and we are left will old "manual" mode.
I wonder how many people crying for RAW really know what that will give them.
Stock Sony camera app has some of the most extensive manual controls of any phone app.
so is there a flagship phone which offers RAW on Lollipop and can compete with our Z3 feature wise?
otherwise stop winning
admad said:
I mean that we had and have a thing called "manual" but available options to choose are very limited. Android 5.0 brings new feature that allows a true manual camera mode, like ability to set shutter speed. But for some reason (I think that kernald is right, commercial reasons to upgrade to Z4 etc. apply) they didn't implement it, and we are left will old "manual" mode.
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Well I don't think it's just for commercial reasons. Implementing the full Camera2 API from scratch is a lot more work than just backporting the old camera firmware to the new kernel. It's not just a question of flipping a switch or not.
Why RAW? The sensor of a smartphone is too small to make a serious professional camera anyway and it always requires post-processing with professional software that most users do not have
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Why RAW? The sensor of a smartphone is too small to make a serious professional camera anyway and it always requires post-processing with professional software that most users do not have
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Yup exactly. I'd say almost everyone crying for RAW has no idea what it means or what it will give them.
As for the guy that wanted manual shutter speed controls, the Z3 is one of the few phones that you can manipulate ISO and exposure compensation. All modern cameraphones have fixed apertures. I hope you can do the rest of the math to answer your own question.
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Yup exactly. I'd say almost everyone crying for RAW has no idea what it means or what it will give them.
As for the guy that wanted manual shutter speed controls, the Z3 is one of the few phones that you can manipulate ISO and exposure compensation. All modern cameraphones have fixed apertures. I hope you can do the rest of the math to answer your own question.
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Yep with you on each
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Why RAW? The sensor of a smartphone is too small to make a serious professional camera anyway and it always requires post-processing with professional software that most users do not have
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Thats because Sony jpeg compression is garage and most people want RAW to see full potential of the camera.
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Thats because Sony jpeg compression is garage and most people want RAW to see full potential of the camera.
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You know what's really funny about this argument? People have accused the Sony JPEG engine of underprocessing (under sharpening, less contrast, ligher NR) than other algorithms, which I kind of agree with. You know what that sounds a lot like?
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Thats because Sony jpeg compression is garage and most people want RAW to see full potential of the camera.
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No argument there, the camera can perform a lot better.
But that does not change the fact that no common user wants to import their casual selfies and vacation snapshots into a 1000 dollar piece of software for post processing before posting them to facebook.
I would much rather see Sony improve the camera software instead of enabling RAW.
Wow. I'm getting the update now in the US. From your comments, it doesn't sound too promising. Are there any good sides to the update? I'll have mine in 6 mins but would like to know
Guys, no other major players other than Motorola are including the Camera2 API so it's hardly fair to blame Sony for not adding it. I'm sure it's a lot of work to implement the API properly for a feature that few people in theory will notice.
Hopefully they will in the future.

RAW support for the Z5-line

Maybe im ther only one that thinks RAW support would be a cool thing to add to a phone that takes nice photo's but why didn't sony release the Z5 line with RAW support?
Is there a way to add RAW support when we have root on our devices?
This is the power of what RAW can do for your photo's
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I think there are a few apps that handle RAW.
http://www.androidcentral.com/raw-images-and-android-everything-you-need-know#slide5
Theres no way to add RAW except writing new camera drivers.
I would love raw support, I still don't get why the option is missing from most phones, just have jpeg as default and let us choose raw!
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e2zippo said:
I would love raw support, I still don't get why the option is missing from most phones, just have jpeg as default and let us choose raw!
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Well the LG G4 and other high end samsung phone can already shoot in RAw and i thought i seen this info bout sony willing to add it if there was enough people wanting this feature.
But if you look at the new Snapseed app from google it can edit RAW so guess the new nexus devices will get it also some day.
Demand RAW support from Sony, they will add it if there is a customer demand
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Software-Updates/Camera2-API/m-p/974754#M21577
Thats a pretty much dead end for half a year now as there are over 50 pages with over 500 messeges demanding full camera2 API implementation. No answer from Sony in any way...
bubimir13 said:
Thats a pretty much dead end for half a year now as there are over 50 pages with over 500 messeges demanding full camera2 API implementation. No answer from Sony in any way...
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Well their response was
Android 5.0 supports the new camera features via android.hardware.camera2, and Google defines three modes for the new camera features:
Legacy mode (no support RAW capture)
Limited mode (optional capability for RAW capture)
Full mode (optional capability for RAW capture)
Currently, Xperia supports Legacy mode in our Lollipop update which incorporate features and functionality in addition to our already renowned camera experience. As always, we're monitoring our customer expectations and regarding supporting taking pictures in RAW format, we will consider this for the future if there is a popular demand.
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Keeping the thread alive and active shows demand, one can hope that it will spur them to fix it with 6.0.
Echts said:
Well their response was
Keeping the thread alive and active shows demand, one can hope that it will spur them to fix it with 6.0.
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Word and sony released a camera app for AOSP with RAW so hope we will see it in the future in the normal app.
Sony z5 needs to have RAW support, sony should update with marshmallow update...
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Needs to happen
Don't see no reason they shouldn't add it, better quality and storage is not an issue nowadays!
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Any update on Sony z5 camera or firmware
Guess well just have to wait for MM to start distributing, since they ain't gonna publish any bug fixes or patches before MM, according to their CM's on forum, since they say for some other bugs that they will be fixed with upcoming MM release. Its so hard to wait
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Thats a pretty much dead end for half a year now as there are over 50 pages with over 500 messeges demanding full camera2 API implementation. No answer from Sony in any way...
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The developers of the concept build (for Z3/Z3 Compact) said in December that they were discussing whether they continue with the concept in January 2016 with focus in some stuff (Full Camera 2 api included) or not.
It's just another promise (in a private google+ group), but who knows...
They've been just testing the Z3 firmware in Marshmallow. So I think the Z5 will have a lot of bugs.
They seriously need to improve the camera firmware in the Z5 line, photos at 2MP captures much more details than in 8MP. Not to mention 20/23MP which is still worse and useless at the moment.
Waiting waiting,clock ticking...waiting for 6.0
i really hope they will add full camera2 API features because even Samsung is adding them to S6 line with MM
Don't hope too much.. MM is just around the corner, if this was included I think the news would have leaked.
Sony needs to stop using resources for a ton of useless camera apps and just focus on SA mode, a semi-pro mode (scenes), and a full manual mode like iphone has. Considering that single developers on xda can unlock manual modes, it is totally beyond me why Sony chooses to stay behind competition.
With z5, they seem to have started to take the camera matter more seriously, so maybe they are working on it.
In for RAW support on the Z5C.
Make sure you let Sony know that we want RAW implemented with api2 in MM!
I can't post links but search on Google for xperia api2

How can we add RAW camera capability?

Does anyone know how we might add camera RAW format capability to this phone?
Does anyone know exactly which camera sensor the phone uses?
It's an excellent camera and I'm really happy with it, but even though it's advertised as 20 megapixels, at 100% there are clear signs of upsize resampling, so I'd guess the true resolution is about 16mp. Maybe that's the reason why we don't have camera RAW out of the box — because the images wouldn't be 20mp. Personally I wouldn't care about that — I would just like to have the flexibility that RAW offers.
I agree with you. I think the A7 camera sensor is capable of capturing good enough photos, but the JPEG processing ruins it. RAW support is a major upgrade to just about any phone, but ours would benefit hugely. Might it be possible in the future?
Probably ZTE won't do it, because they would have to admit it's not a true 20mp sensor.
So the community will have to do it ourselves.
I believe the first step would be to identify the exact model camera sensor.
Can anyone suggest how to do that?
All I know is that sensor is made by Samsung - I spoke that info somewhere on the web and I gonna to check that.
edt.
Got it ! Thats an Samsung ISOCELL 20MP 1.8/f - i can not found any production no. or any of codes so i do not know what exacly model it is.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/3224558612/zte-axon-7-features-20mp-samsung-isocell-sensor
I believe you can shoot RAW photos with the Nougat ROM
Controllerboy said:
I agree with you. I think the A7 camera sensor is capable of capturing good enough photos, but the JPEG processing ruins it. RAW support is a major upgrade to just about any phone, but ours would benefit hugely. Might it be possible in the future?
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nuserame said:
Probably ZTE won't do it, because they would have to admit it's not a true 20mp sensor.
So the community will have to do it ourselves.
I believe the first step would be to identify the exact model camera sensor.
Can anyone suggest how to do that?
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All I know is that sensor is made by Samsung - I spoke that info somewhere on the web and I gonna to check that.
edt.
Got it ! Thats an Samsung ISOCELL 20MP 1.8/f - i can not found any production no. or any of codes so i do not know what exacly model it is.
https://www.dpreview.com/news/3224558612/zte-axon-7-features-20mp-samsung-isocell-sensor
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I believe you can shoot RAW photos with the Nougat ROM
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This has been long discussed by ZTE and it seems they probably address the issue in future updates:
https://community.zteusa.com/message/37679
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You can't just "add in" RAW support. The driver for the camera sensor has to be built to support it, and then it has to be integrated into the kernel.
Early reports seemed to be saying that the camera sensor was a planned on for the S7 family, but then Samsung choose a different model for it. Which is probably how ZTE got their hands on it (as in, Samsung would want to recoup any R&D costs they could).
Short answer: unless Samsung or ZTE provides for our model, it's not going to happen.
TeutonJon78 said:
You can't just "add in" RAW support. The driver for the camera sensor has to be built to support it, and then it has to be integrated into the kernel.
Early reports seemed to be saying that the camera sensor was a planned on for the S7 family, but then Samsung choose a different model for it. Which is probably how ZTE got their hands on it (as in, Samsung would want to recoup any R&D costs they could).
Short answer: unless Samsung or ZTE provides for our model, it's not going to happen.
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Hmm. Those early reports you mention suggested Samsung was going to offer RAW… But it hasn't been released for whatever reason. Anyway, I left a comment on the discussion on the ZTEUSA site and encourage everyone interested to do the same.
Can anyone try adding this to build.prop
"persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1"
And tell if RAW capture in Open Camera works?
Manual Camera compatibility test thingy shows that Camera2 works.
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I tried adding that line to my build.prop. I can confirm that the Camera2 API option shows up in Open Camera, but it does not work properly. The app crashes whenever settings are exited and the camera is loaded whether I have it set to capture only JPEG or JPEG and DNG. I also tried in A Better Camera, and while it didn't crash, it also did not save a RAW image.
JambonBurst said:
I believe you can shoot RAW photos with the Nougat ROM
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I've heard RAW may be included in Nougate too, but have not received direct confirmation due to the NDA's.
I'm hopeful that RAW will be included soon!
I threw in a post over on the ZTE forums for RAW as well, if they're still on the fence about that.
TeutonJon78 said:
You can't just "add in" RAW support. The driver for the camera sensor has to be built to support it, and then it has to be integrated into the kernel. […] Short answer: unless Samsung or ZTE provides for our model, it's not going to happen.
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Yes, unfortunately it appears that kernel-level support is needed. So either 1) ZTE or Samsung must enable this feature, or 2) we can identify another phone out there with the same sensor and RAW enabled in order to use that code. So far, I can't find anything like that
mario972 said:
Can anyone try adding this to build.prop
"persist.camera.HAL3.enabled=1"
And tell if RAW capture in Open Camera works?
Manual Camera compatibility test thingy shows that Camera2 works.
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According to this thread, that enables the OS features to make them ready to receive camera RAW data, but it doesn't make the RAW data available from the sensor.
So it seems the course of action most likely to succeed right now is to add your voice to the ZTEUSA thread requesting camera RAW.

Camera2 API support?

Does this phone have it?
If yes, is the support enabled by default? Or do we need to root and enable it later by editing the build.prop?
Can someone with this phone post a screenshot of this app? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.weis.camera2probe
Hi awaaas,
Looking for this phone too? I have created the lounge at kaskus, you might want to check it out. Reminds me of old days.
Unfortunately, no C2A support yet, at least not in the demo unit.
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Desmanto said:
Hi awaaas,
Looking for this phone too? I have created the lounge at kaskus, you might want to check it out. Reminds me of old days.
Unfortunately, no C2A support yet, at least not in the demo unit.
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Long time no see, bud... :highfive:
One of my relatives wants this phone, just want to make sure some of the phone's capabilities that reviewers often left out. For comparison, Redmi Note 5 Pro, the one that compared to this phone a lot, has Camera2 API support, but only if you edit the build.prop first (according to my friend that have it, I don't actually have that phone).
For me myself, I might will be still using my Mi 5s for foreseable future...
awaaas said:
Long time no see, bud... :highfive:
One of my relatives wants this phone, just want to make sure some of the phone's capabilities that reviewers often left out. For comparison, Redmi Note 5 Pro, the one that compared to this phone a lot, has Camera2 API support, but only if you edit the build.prop first (according to my friend that have it, I don't actually have that phone).
For me myself, I might will be still using my Mi 5s for foreseable future...
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:highfive: Yeah, probably several years.
If me, it is me myself who are looking for this phone. RN5P still disabled the C2A, need (temporary) root to enable it. Same with this phone, if no C2A support out of box, at least we can enable it using the same method. But there is a rumour about major OTA update at 30 April. We expect to see a lot of improvement compared to the somewhat "beta" ROM from the media review unit. Let's hope to see the C2A has been enabled in this major update.
Desmanto said:
Hi awaaas,
Looking for this phone too? I have created the lounge at kaskus, you might want to check it out. Reminds me of old days.
Unfortunately, no C2A support yet, at least not in the demo unit.
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what about slowmotion and 1080p 60fps ?
mohtaprashantrocks said:
what about slowmotion and 1080p 60fps ?
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Haven't seen it anywhere yet. Only the 4K DCI/UHD and the 1080p has EIS already in the retail unit. The camera app seems will be updated tomorrow to support it. Hopefully, we can see the C2A support too in the next update.
Gcam will not work without camera api2 ! Let's wait and see...
Hope they will update to add support soon. Don't let the stock camera app be the limiting factor of image quality!
I hope someone comes with a GCam port for this phone. As far as what I tested, the phone's rear cam is quite good (except for very low light scenarios).
Also, the front cam desperately needs better balance in colors, dynamic range. Currently, selfie quality is quite decent, the colors are not accurate/natural even under good light (skin has a red tinge). And overall, brightness, noise level etc., could be tweaked a bit too.
Any suggestions for a different app that can bring out better photos out of the front cam??
ramdante said:
I hope someone comes with a GCam port for this phone. As far as what I tested, the phone's rear cam is quite good (except for very low light scenarios).
Also, the front cam desperately needs better balance in colors, dynamic range. Currently, selfie quality is quite decent, the colors are not accurate/natural even under good light (skin has a red tinge). And overall, brightness, noise level etc., could be tweaked a bit too.
Any suggestions for a different app that can bring out better photos out of the front cam??
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Oneplus or MiUi camera
can anybody install thishttps://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.weis.camera2probe app into their ASUS Zanfone Max pro m1 & post the result here to show whether the camera h/w has the support for the Camera2Api
Here -
aniket.lamba said:
Here -
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Thanks!
Is this the default settings? or do you need to edit the build.prop?
awaaas said:
Thanks!
Is this the default settings? or do you need to edit the build.prop?
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You need to edit the build.prop.
aniket.lamba said:
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Hey Aniket, thanks for the SS, can you install this Camera2 API Probe https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.airbeat.device.inspector app, actually, in this app its gives the individual camera parameters for both front & back camera & earlier the app link that I gave, that shows the overall result so basically it was my bad so I'm requesting you to install this app instead now this time & ost the SS once again as I want to know all the parameters for both of the cam of this hone individually.
& is it possible to install Gcam in this hone without rooting or is there any tools available like this MI A1's AIO Toolhttps://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-a1/how-to/tool-xiaomi-mi-a1-tool-drivers-unlock-t3742857 so that it can be rooted & unlocked automatically & that can be used by all the novice users, & whether all future OTA updates will be available if bootloader is unlocked & rooted & warranty will be voided or not

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