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Hello all,
I've had my Nexus 10 since Christmas and it's never given me any problems. Within the last 3 or 4 days, however, I noticed my videos weren't loading like normal, so I've been running speedtests and it is completely inconsistent. My phone and computer will consistently pull 20+ Mbps, but the N10 is crazy. Sometimes it's 3Mbps, sometimes it's 10Mbps, sometimes it's 16Mbps. Every time I check, it's different. I've used multiple programs and websites to read the speeds, and they're all reporting the same. I can stand in another room, or right next to the router, same story. The wifi never fully drops, it just slows way down. I don't have a case on it. I've turned on and off the Wi-Fi optimization in settings. I've turned on and off location settings. Nothing helps! Please let me know if you have any ideas. I am hoping I won't have to return the darn thing, it seems crazy.
As per my internet, it's Comcast, Surfboard modem with a Linksys E1000 (Wireless-N, 2.4GHz) using WPA. Restarting that did not help. I am open to the idea of changing some settings on the router however, if that might be a solution. Also, signal strength on the N10 says "Excellent" and link speed says 130Mbps.
Thanks for your help!
muchnginawkt
I too have this problem so now Im going to attempt to root the device
Glad to hear someone else is having similar problems.
Possible good news: I changed my protection from WPA(mixed) to WPA2, and so far things seem to be much more consistent. This may just be a fluke, but it's looking much better so far.
If you have a router with 2.4GHz band only, try changing it to 2.4GHz under WiFi settings on the Nexus.
I had some disconnection problems due to that and somewhat inconsistent speeds, I've seen it fix a lot of peoples problems, I've yet to have a transfer problem so far with limiting WiFi to the speed of my router.
Other issues some see is using N wide or dual channel (40Mhz). As the N10 only supports 20 Mhz in 2.4GHz it seems to get confused.
Most other devices either support 40GHz or handle switching more gracefully.
In short force router to 20 Mhz/single channel, may report more consistent behaviour.
On 5Ghz it does not matter as the N10 supports 40Mhz/Dual channel.
Odd, I know.
My experience is that sometimes with wifi issues, wiping the cache (if custom recovery is available) would resolve the issues for some time, but it might be due to an beta ROM.
P.S> on 5GHz wifi I am able to hit 122Mb/s
it has WIFI, mine hardly works
After a few hours of testing, I am now consistently getting 20mbps + as I should be. My router is set to 20MHz only, but I think the main issue was the security settings. It just wasn't dealing with WPA(mixed) well.
Heyho, i currently have access to my wifi as well as to my neighbors network as my wifi gets weak while i am in the garden. I feel like android isnt awitching to my neighbors wifi automatically. Only when my wifi is completely gone, android will look for a new one.
I thought about making a task with tasker which looks for another wifi as soon as the current wifi strength goes below 25%.
Or is/should android do that aleady on its own?
Thanks
In wifi -> Advanced settings there's an option to avoid poor connection. I have no idea what it actually does, but give it a try.
I did the test with my router, which supports 2 frequencies.
Assuming both networks are saved in the phone, it connect automatically to the one with better signal or look for an alternative if signal is lost.
Thats what I mean, it will connect to the other WiFi if the connection is lost. But if the connection is crippled (bad) enough to not handle a music stream, but still "availabe" it will not switch to the other WiFi eventhough that other WiFi has 100% signal strength ?
I activated the "use wlan only if good strength available".. lets see how this works
I have multiple APs in my house and the only way I've ever got it to switch is by toggling wifi off and on (or loosing the first signal completely). This is an Android issue IINM, my GS2 and my N4 both have this issue.
I tried the "do not use weak WiFi".. didnt work.
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I tried the "do not use weak WiFi".. didnt work.
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It has never worked for me either. Didn't work on my GSM GNex or with the N4.
I think it's how most WiFi clients work, otherwise if you were in the middle of 2 equal signals, it would spend more time disconnecting and reconnecting creating a DOS attack on the 2 AP's and leaving you with no data.
As for 2 home wireless routers, use the same SSID and authentication settings for both, and put one on channel 1 and the other on channel 11.
Make one a AP only (no router, no firewall, no dhcp server) and connect it to a client wired port on the first one. You can roam between them like people in large offices do.
or I try to make a tasker profile
if wifi strenght below 20% and another wifi is available with more than 30%, connect to that one.. then wait 5 minutes ?
Does anyone notice there's a big bug with WiFi on the G2?
I have 2 WiFi ac routers, one at home and one at the Office, an Asus RT-ac66U and a Linksys ea6700. Both capable of 1750mbps max speeds.
Internet speeds are 120/6 and 200/20.
Scenario is exactly the same for both routers;
When fresh reboot the router, G2 connects at a speed of 433Mbps.
Speedtests show results of 119/6 at home and 190/20 at the office.
Great you would say!
But here goes. Once WiFi get disconnected and reconnected, speeds go down to ~40mbps. No matter what I do!
These are N speeds, not AC
When looking at connection settings it still shows a link of 433mbps
Tested dozens of times, on both routers, so it has to be an issue with the G2.
Anyone else noticed the same??
DAMN, should have been in Q&A, mods plz move
I'm not an expert on wi-fi, but have stumbled through setting up several routers around the house. But I do not have an ac router.
Is the home router in mixed mode? Ignoring a/b/c for a moment and focusing on g and n (and implying ac), I have two wireless routers in the house. One runs N only (but both 2.4 ghz and 5 ghz) and the other runs G only. Now, my N router is capable of running in mixed mode (to handle both N and G) BUT in mixed mode, my max speed when connected in N is lower than it would be if I ran in dedicated N mode.
Most of my devices now are at least N (2.4 or 5) but I have an older printer and wii that only do G. But as mentioned above, rather than run my best router in mixed mode, I run 2 separate routers, one in N only and one in G only.
Maybe something similar might help with your ac speeds?
Really appreciate your input!
But I already tried settings like AC only etc. Doesn't make any difference.
Once connected for the second time and up to the router no more AC speeds...
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Is there a way to test LAN speeds on Android? I have the same Asus router but my wan speeds are so pitiful that I wouldn't be able to tell if the phone was dropping to N speeds. If I could test speeds to my desktop across the local network I might be able to test what you are experiencing.
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Is there a way to check on the phone, which band it's connecting to? I haven't found anything.
I have the same router and my issue is on reconnect. I leave my wifi on all the time. When I get home, it connects automatically the moment I pull up to the house. The problem is, the speed is severely crippled. Range is awesome, speed is bad. I have to cycle the wifi and reconnect. Once done, no more problems.
One thing I should note, I was having the same issue occasionally on my Droid RAZR after getting the ASUS. Does anyone know if they use the same wifi hardware? Maybe it's an issue with the router itself?
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Is there a way to test LAN speeds on Android? I have the same Asus router but my wan speeds are so pitiful that I wouldn't be able to tell if the phone was dropping to N speeds. If I could test speeds to my desktop across the local network I might be able to test what you are experiencing.
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Is there a way to check on the phone, which band it's connecting to? I haven't found anything.
I have the same router and my issue is on reconnect. I leave my wifi on all the time. When I get home, it connects automatically the moment I pull up to the house. The problem is, the speed is severely crippled. Range is awesome, speed is bad. I have to cycle the wifi and reconnect. Once done, no more problems.
One thing I should note, I was having the same issue occasionally on my Droid RAZR after getting the ASUS. Does anyone know if they use the same wifi hardware? Maybe it's an issue with the router itself?
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@jasonff
Don't know about an app to test lan speeds unfortunately.
Think a google search would come up with lots of options.
@crashN2u
I leave my wifi on too all the time for now, it keeps it at full speed then.
There's no way to check which band you are connected to.
Router doesn't have an option to choose AC Only, only N +AC
And in the mean time I have tested it with 4 AC routers, Asus RT-AC66U, Netgear R6250, Linksys EA6700, D-Link 868L.
With all routers exactly the same conclusion. First time everything is great. Excellent speeds. If you never turn off WiFi it remains at high speed.
But once you turn off WiFi on the Phone and turn it back on it immediately drops to ~36-40mbps max (N Speeds).
This remains until I rebooted each router and after that full speeds again.
It must be something in drivers LG used.
There's the solution to for, I'm sure of it by now.
Well, I can see I won't be much help -- especially since the same result on 4 routers!
I am not sure if the following app supports AC, but a very helpful and free app I use is called "Wifi Analyzer". I can't post links but that is the exact name (author = farproc).
It has many useful tools/functions that you may find helpful, switchable between 2.4 and 5.0 ghz, channel scanner, etc.
Does your 2.4 ghz N and 5.0 ghz N/AC have different SSID's? From what I read, AC is 5 ghz only and N can be either 2.4 ghz or 5.0 ghz. I wonder if you are dropping from 5.0 AC to 2.4 N because the 2.4 N is being detected as "stronger signal" than the 5.0 AC at reconnect time?
I named my 2.4 ghz N SSID as "Blah" and 5.0 ghz N SSID as "Blah_5ghz" just so I know what frequency I'm on at a glance (using a widget that shows the SSID) but many routers by default will have both SSID's the same, making it less obvious what band you are connected to. I also use an app called "WIFI Prioritizer" (author Robert Botha), which will allow me to connect or re-connect in the SSID order I specify: i.e. when I get home I will connect to SSID "Blah" (2.4 ghz N because it has the longest range). Every 5 mins (you can specify), it checks to see if my SSID "Blah_5Ghz" is in range and will switch to it if it is (you can also set signal strength connect and disconnect thresholds).
Anyways, I probably can't help further but am following this thread with interest. Good luck!
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Well, I can see I won't be much help -- especially since the same result on 4 routers!
I am not sure if the following app supports AC, but a very helpful and free app I use is called "Wifi Analyzer". I can't post links but that is the exact name (author = farproc).
It has many useful tools/functions that you may find helpful, switchable between 2.4 and 5.0 ghz, channel scanner, etc.
Does your 2.4 ghz N and 5.0 ghz N/AC have different SSID's? From what I read, AC is 5 ghz only and N can be either 2.4 ghz or 5.0 ghz. I wonder if you are dropping from 5.0 AC to 2.4 N because the 2.4 N is being detected as "stronger signal" than the 5.0 AC at reconnect time?
I named my 2.4 ghz N SSID as "Blah" and 5.0 ghz N SSID as "Blah_5ghz" just so I know what frequency I'm on at a glance (using a widget that shows the SSID) but many routers by default will have both SSID's the same, making it less obvious what band you are connected to. I also use an app called "WIFI Prioritizer" (author Robert Botha), which will allow me to connect or re-connect in the SSID order I specify: i.e. when I get home I will connect to SSID "Blah" (2.4 ghz N because it has the longest range). Every 5 mins (you can specify), it checks to see if my SSID "Blah_5Ghz" is in range and will switch to it if it is (you can also set signal strength connect and disconnect thresholds).
Anyways, I probably can't help further but am following this thread with interest. Good luck!
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My Phone is packed with tools like Wifi Analyser, InSISDer etc etc atm
I always separate 2.4 and 5ghz networks to be able to see exactly what's going on but thanks for the heads up :good:
From further investigation and thinking, and with your suggestion about stronger signals;
Thing is, AC routers are more or less all simultanious routers.
That combines 2.4 and 5ghz signals for higher transfer speeds.
I think in there lies the problem when drivers are not 100%.
In theory 2.4 signals are stronger then 5ghz signals and have wider range.
But in testing I made sure that I was in the same room and no more than 2 meters away from the router.
when testing it showed equal signal strength up to -20 so really strong signals.
Therefore I concluded that N on 2.4 whas equally strong as 5ghz and then again I isolated 5ghz SSID so that's not it unfortunately.
I promised to stay away but I can't resist!
Have you tried some of the more generic troubleshooting tips (on the home network), such as trying with no security or lesser security (WEP) to see if it still reconnects at the lower (N) speeds? I realize that usually that test is of course for a more basic issue than yours but maybe the G2 has trouble handling security overhead.
Some devices and routers just don't like each other (as many know), but 4 different routers...?! Gotta be the G2 side, as you've surmised. Wish I knew someone with an ac router so I could test myself. I'm debating on getting an ac router but you've got me spooked! (kidding/teasing)
Well haven't tried lower or no security.
When I have the chance (aka the wife is away and not *****ing about wifi not available ) I'll sure try that.
But I don't think that WEP will be an option because AC requires AES protection if I'm not mistaken.
But really do not be afraid to get yourself an AC router hehe.
No honestly, I've tested 4 routers with:
AC Capable:
HTC One. Goes all the way to max isp speeds. All the time, no issues
LG G2.
Not AC Capable.
IPhone 5. Max speed at 5ghz (constantly tested) is ~90-100mpbs.
HTC One X. Max speed at 5ghz (constantly tested) is ~70-90mpbs.
So even if your hardware maybe not be capable of AC speeds you still get excellent connections
Oh and for the record.
Here's my personal listing of the hardware I've tested. From best to well not so good.
1. Netgear R6250.
Excellent constant speeds. No drops whatsoever with around 6 devices connected. Excellent range!
2. Asus RT-AC66U
Shame Asus introduced a new wifi driver some time ago which doesn't perform that well. Constant speed drops.
They know about it but thusfar no solution.
When you get this one, stay on old firmware for now!
3. D-link 868L
Real looker this one. Can be put in plain sight in the room like a picture frame :silly:
Great constant speeds, but some drops here and there.
Excellent range.
4. Linksys EA6700
Linksys is sold to Belkin by Cisco.
Up to now I have never seen anything good coming from Belkin!
What a piece of crap.
With a really thin wall between router and phones coverage went down more dan half. Hell even when distance less than 2 meters away coverage was about -45.
Do not get this crap!
I wonder... the wireless N spec (not sure if also AC) calls for devices and routers to have a 'low power mode', which may or may not be enabled in routers and/or phones (e.g. GS3) by default. According to some article I read, newer routers may go into a power saving mode if it detects low traffic and supposedly ramp up when the traffic increases.
Possibly it doesn't ramp up fast enough when a new device connects and the device mistakes it for not having the highest speed (AC) capability. Might explain fast speeds after router bootup but not later. If there is any truth to that (no clue here), it might speed itself up either by testing with a larger file or seeing if the "2nd connect" condition changes while say, streaming videos from the PC to the Xbox or watching Netflix on the main TV. Certainly, either would be considered high traffic and if there is no change to the 2nd connect, well -- there goes that idea.
Is there a wifi power saving mode on the G2 like there is on the GS3? (i.e. dialing *#0011# to turn it off).
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I wonder... the wireless N spec (not sure if also AC) calls for devices and routers to have a 'low power mode', which may or may not be enabled in routers and/or phones (e.g. GS3) by default. According to some article I read, newer routers may go into a power saving mode if it detects low traffic and supposedly ramp up when the traffic increases.
Possibly it doesn't ramp up fast enough when a new device connects and the device mistakes it for not having the highest speed (AC) capability. Might explain fast speeds after router bootup but not later. If there is any truth to that (no clue here), it might speed itself up either by testing with a larger file or seeing if the "2nd connect" condition changes while say, streaming videos from the PC to the Xbox or watching Netflix on the main TV. Certainly, either would be considered high traffic and if there is no change to the 2nd connect, well -- there goes that idea.
Is there a wifi power saving mode on the G2 like there is on the GS3? (i.e. dialing *#0011# to turn it off).
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Good point!
Well, there is a setting in wifi, advanced to minimize use of wifi when screen is off. Sounds like a power save mode to me.
But, just tested it and that makes no difference.
With that setting deactivated on the G2 still at first boot AC speeds and when I switch off and on wifi I still get N speeds max.
And besides that, on the Asus router there's a setting called "Enable WMM APSD". Which stands for "Automatic Power Save Delivery".
I read up on that and the custom firmware guru RMerlin writes about that setting that especially Android devices could suffer from that setting.
So I disabled that a long time ago.
On other routers I couldn't find such setting.
But to iron that setting out I just tested it once more.
First with setting off. Still first connect AC speeds, after turn off/on back to N speed.
Then turned wifi off, enabled the setting and rebooted the router.
But this time to let the supposedly power save kick in I let my Phone idle for 15 minutes so that it surely was in deep sleep.
Then turned screen on, and again AC speeds when first connected.
After that turned wifi off, screen of for 15 minutes. Turned screen on again and once more N speed.
And link speed is always shown as 433mbps btw, which is correct.
There's just some bug in driver code by LG which doesn't work correctly.
I'm more and more convinced of that.
For now I just keep wifi on all the time so that I always get full speeds.
Batt is capable enough so no problem there
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Good point!
Well, there is a setting in wifi, advanced to minimize use of wifi when screen is off. Sounds like a power save mode to me.
But, just tested it and that makes no difference.
With that setting deactivated on the G2 still at first boot AC speeds and when I switch off and on wifi I still get N speeds max.
And besides that, on the Asus router there's a setting called "Enable WMM APSD". Which stands for "Automatic Power Save Delivery".
I read up on that and the custom firmware guru RMerlin writes about that setting that especially Android devices could suffer from that setting.
So I disabled that a long time ago.
On other routers I couldn't find such setting.
But to iron that setting out I just tested it once more.
First with setting off. Still first connect AC speeds, after turn off/on back to N speed.
Then turned wifi off, enabled the setting and rebooted the router.
But this time to let the supposedly power save kick in I let my Phone idle for 15 minutes so that it surely was in deep sleep.
Then turned screen on, and again AC speeds when first connected.
After that turned wifi off, screen of for 15 minutes. Turned screen on again and once more N speed.
And link speed is always shown as 433mbps btw, which is correct.
There's just some bug in driver code by LG which doesn't work correctly.
I'm more and more convinced of that.
For now I just keep wifi on all the time so that I always get full speeds.
Batt is capable enough so no problem there
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I found a tool to test local network speed. It uses two android devices for a p2p test or you can install a server program on your PC. I'll do some testing and see if I can reproduce what you are seeing. Here's the link: http://pzoleeblogen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/local-network-speed-test-for-android/ and the market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en
And to be sure I understand, you boot your phone with wifi on, AC speeds. Turn off wifi on phone and turn it back on, N speeds. Reboot phone with wifi on, back to AC speeds. Correct?
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I found a tool to test local network speed. It uses two android devices for a p2p test or you can install a server program on your PC. I'll do some testing and see if I can reproduce what you are seeing. Here's the link: http://pzoleeblogen.wordpress.com/2013/08/12/local-network-speed-test-for-android/ and the market link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pzolee.android.localwifispeedtester&hl=en
And to be sure I understand, you boot your phone with wifi on, AC speeds. Turn off wifi on phone and turn it back on, N speeds. Reboot phone with wifi on, back to AC speeds. Correct?
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Thanks for the app!
Gonna test this for sure since I also have a HTC One lying around which is also AC capable
Not 100% corect.
I can do with phone what I want until wifi gets turned off.
Then a reboot of the router is required to get AC speed back.
No need to reboot the phone.
Quite busy atm so don't have enough time I would like to be testing
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Thanks for the app!
Gonna test this for sure since I also have a HTC One lying around which is also AC capable
Not 100% corect.
I can do with phone what I want until wifi gets turned off.
Then a reboot of the router is required to get AC speed back.
No need to reboot the phone.
Quite busy atm so don't have enough time I would like to be testing
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Between my wife on her laptop, my son on his Chromebook and my daughter streaming Netflix on our Roku, I hardly ever have a chance to reboot the router without someone complaining
Since I haven't rebooted my router in days, from what you are saying I shouldn't see anything above N speeds until I reboot the router. Do you actually have to turn off wifi on the phone to have it drop from AC to N or is it enough to leave the range of the wifi and then come back? And does if turning it off is required, do I have to be connected to the router at the time I turn phone wifi off?
I'll try testing this weekend.
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Between my wife on her laptop, my son on his Chromebook and my daughter streaming Netflix on our Roku, I hardly ever have a chance to reboot the router without someone complaining
Since I haven't rebooted my router in days, from what you are saying I shouldn't see anything above N speeds until I reboot the router. Do you actually have to turn off wifi on the phone to have it drop from AC to N or is it enough to leave the range of the wifi and then come back? And does if turning it off is required, do I have to be connected to the router at the time I turn phone wifi off?
I'll try testing this weekend.
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Going out of range isn't a problem as long as you don't have an app or setting on in wifi, advanced to switch off wifi.
As long as wifi isn't turned off I can go everywhere, in&out of range, other routers connect but speeds remain AC, everywhere on every router.
I can reproduce everytime that when I turn off wifi on the phone and back on from then on I only get ~36-40mbps max.
It's like the phone thinks that's max capable speed altough wifi link speed is again shown as 433mbps.
If I have switched off wifi on the phone and back on, on all 4 AC routers I tested all needed a router reboot to gain full AC speeds again.
Oh and maybe a small tip, I always say to the misses at home that there's a small problem with connection so a quick reboot is required.
Up to now that still works
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Going out of range isn't a problem as long as you don't have an app or setting on in wifi, advanced to switch off wifi.
As long as wifi isn't turned off I can go everywhere, in&out of range, other routers connect but speeds remain AC, everywhere on every router.
I can reproduce everytime that when I turn off wifi on the phone and back on from then on I only get ~36-40mbps max.
It's like the phone thinks that's max capable speed altough wifi link speed is again shown as 433mbps.
If I have switched off wifi on the phone and back on, on all 4 AC routers I tested all needed a router reboot to gain full AC speeds again.
Oh and maybe a small tip, I always say to the misses at home that there's a small problem with connection so a quick reboot is required.
Up to now that still works
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I just did a few tests from my phone to my pc with 100MB data sets. I got between 200 and 260 Mbit/s down both before and after toggling my phone's wifi off and on. Didn't seem to make a difference. I got about 6Mbit up.
So, I didn't seem to experience the problem you have. But try repeating what I've done with this local network app. Maybe you won't have the issue with it that you are seeing on your WAN connection.
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I just did a few tests from my phone to my pc with 100MB data sets. I got between 200 and 260 Mbit/s down both before and after toggling my phone's wifi off and on. Didn't seem to make a difference. I got about 6Mbit up.
So, I didn't seem to experience the problem you have. But try repeating what I've done with this local network app. Maybe you won't have the issue with it that you are seeing on your WAN connection.
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What router or AP do you use?
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shaglord said:
What router or AP do you use?
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Asus RT-AC66U
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Asus RT-AC66U
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Wow and do you really see real transfer rates of 25-30 MB/s to your G2?
I'm using a Qualcomm Atheros based AC-router and my G2 (running latest CM11) hardly goes over 10 Mbit ~ 1,5 MB/s. Weak I know. (Confirmed 433 Mbit link using a wifi app.)
Maybe I need a broadcom-router like yours to see some real AC-speeds.
Thanks for the reply. Take care
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Hey kids.
I came from the S3 the beginning of November. One of the "new" annoyances I've come across is a notification that the wifi connection Internet speed is too slow. Which is bull. The only way to reconnect after that is to reboot. Sometimes enabling airplane mode does it as well. So my question is twofold. Has anyone else come across this? Has anyone figured out how to turn this stupid setting off?
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't encountered any of these problems. My Wi-Fi signal it's weak at times, but when I have a good connection internet speed is fast
If I helped hit thanks!!
im not saying this will fix your problem, but i was getting these messages as well. I switched my wifi power saving off via service menu. I also changed my router band from 2.4ghz to 5ghz 40 bandwidth and i havnt seen the message in about 2 weeks.
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im not saying this will fix your problem, but i was getting these messages as well. I switched my wifi power saving off via service menu. I also changed my router band from 2.4ghz to 5ghz 40 bandwidth and i havnt seen the message in about 2 weeks.
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Thanks. Actually did the power save to off this morning. Happened again this afternoon. As far as switch to 5ghz, I've found that my wifi signal's reach gets cut by about 20-30 feet on that band. Which means I lose reception in part of my basement. I can move my router more centrally in the house, but overall speed suffers (goes from a solid 8-10mbps connection to about 1.5 mbps) cuz the wiring to that receptical is sketchy.
I can get that stupid message in the same room as the router.
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Thanks. Actually did the power save to off this morning. Happened again this afternoon. As far as switch to 5ghz, I've found that my wifi signal's reach gets cut by about 20-30 feet on that band. Which means I lose reception in part of my basement. I can move my router more centrally in the house, but overall speed suffers (goes from a solid 8-10mbps connection to about 1.5 mbps) cuz the wiring to that receptical is sketchy.
I can get that stupid message in the same room as the router.
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yeah 5ghz band will cut your signal strength in half probably. Maybe buy a dual band wireless access point? Its wierd that your speed goes down on 5ghz. Mine practically doubled on my note 3. My house connection is 100mbps / 5mps. On 2.4ghz i can only get up to 30 mbps, when i enabled 5ghz wifi, i shot up to ~110mbps down.
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yeah 5ghz band will cut your signal strength in half probably. Maybe buy a dual band wireless access point? Its wierd that your speed goes down on 5ghz. Mine practically doubled on my note 3. My house connection is 100mbps / 5mps. On 2.4ghz i can only get up to 30 mbps, when i enabled 5ghz wifi, i shot up to ~110mbps down.
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that's ridiculous... buy another router or access point? Its the phone, not the internet, when you get the notification when you're right next to the router. The Note 3 is the only device on my house giving me Wi-Fi issues. Sorry I don't mean to sound like an arse, but it seems silly to buy a phone and have to replace your router, when everything else works just fine with the WiFi signal.
Just to clear up, speed goes down when I connect to the other phone plug. So my router (brand new, furnished by internet provider) is on one side of my house. And this happened before moving in mid Nov as well. Before was cable Internet, now dsl. It's the best thing I can get @ current location.
I'm not sure if it will actually solve anything, but I received the latest update ota. Tomorrow gonna download latest firmware and flash via odin avter wiping everything with safestrap.
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Kancerstick said:
im not saying this will fix your problem, but i was getting these messages as well. I switched my wifi power saving off via service menu. I also changed my router band from 2.4ghz to 5ghz 40 bandwidth and i havnt seen the message in about 2 weeks.
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I'm having the same issues. How do I do the steps above? Kind of's a noob and I don't know what the service menu is and where to switch my bandwidth. Can I get a step by step please?
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im not saying this will fix your problem, but i was getting these messages as well. I switched my wifi power saving off via service menu. I also changed my router band from 2.4ghz to 5ghz 40 bandwidth and i havnt seen the message in about 2 weeks.
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LeftyGR said:
Just to clear up, speed goes down when I connect to the other phone plug. So my router (brand new, furnished by internet provider) is on one side of my house. And this happened before moving in mid Nov as well. Before was cable Internet, now dsl. It's the best thing I can get @ current location.
I'm not sure if it will actually solve anything, but I received the latest update ota. Tomorrow gonna download latest firmware and flash via odin avter wiping everything with safestrap.
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Armyrj127 said:
I'm having the same issues. How do I do the steps above? Kind of's a noob and I don't know what the service menu is and where to switch my bandwidth. Can I get a step by step please?
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Kancerstick pretty much had it right. Rather than switching the band from direct 2.4 to 5.0 though, go into your router settings and look for a setting that says "channel".
What channel are you running on? There are 1-11 channels, try different ones or the idea is to find the one that matches the channel of the phone/client device
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Kancerstick pretty much had it right. Rather than switching the band from direct 2.4 to 5.0 though, go into your router settings and look for a setting that says "channel".
What channel are you running on? There are 1-11 channels, try different ones or the idea is to find the one that matches the channel of the phone/client device
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Ok, I see what you're saying. I'll check that out when I get home. Thanks!
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This post subject caught my eye... I wish there was an xposed module to disable this function. Anytime my wifi connects to my canon eos this notification always comes up and sometimes ruins the connection
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LeftyGR said:
Hey kids.
I came from the S3 the beginning of November. One of the "new" annoyances I've come across is a notification that the wifi connection Internet speed is too slow. Which is bull. The only way to reconnect after that is to reboot. Sometimes enabling airplane mode does it as well. So my question is twofold. Has anyone else come across this? Has anyone figured out how to turn this stupid setting off?
Thanks in advance.
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The one solution that did work for me was to go into the WIFI Settings -> Advanced option under the menu key -> Uncheck the "Auto network switch" option. I haven't had any further issues with that message so far.
tried everything...
I think I have tried everything on this issue. I got my note 3 a few days ago and it will not keep a stable network connection. tried:
1. uncheck the auto switch
2. turn off mobile networks
3. turn off wifi when sleeping
4 changed my router to static ip and not DCHP
5. forget and reconnect to network
6. reset router
I don't thing I can change my router settings anymore or I will have issues with other equipment
I am sitting right next to my router and everything else works fine but my note 3 will not keep a connection. I keep running speed test and half the time it works and half the time I get a no connection error.
Any other thoughts? Should I try another unit?
To be clear off the bad, its not the router. Every other device in the house that connects to the 5ghz band works flawlessly. This is a brand new international phone being use with AT&T in the US, calls and texts function fine. Phone is fully updated and so is the router.
Wifi however is only picks up 2.4ghz bands. Not 5ghz.
Wifi analyzers pick up 2.4ghz but when switching to 5ghz I get a messages stating my phone does not support 5ghz. Anyone else with this issue?
@aq3e No. It doesn't have 5GHz.
2.4GHz has better penetration through walls anyway.
5GHz is really only good if you're in the same room.
physwizz said:
@aq3e No. It doesn't have 5GHz.
2.4GHz has better penetration through walls anyway.
5GHz is really only good if you're in the same room.
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The phone does 5GHz as mentioned on samsungs website : 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4+5GHz
Snekxs said:
The phone does 5GHz as mentioned on samsungs website : 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2.4+5GHz
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I have dual band and can only see 2.4
Might be different in other countries.
Australia had only 2.4 as shown here.
Connectivity
ANT+
No
USB Interface
USB Type-C
USB Version
USB 2.0
Location Technology
GPS, Glonass, Beidou
Earjack
3.5mm Stereo
MHL
No
Wi-Fi
802.11 b/g/n 2.4GHz
Wi-Fi Direct
Yes
Bluetooth Version
Bluetooth v5.0 (LE up to 2 Mbps)
NFC
Yes
https://www.samsung.com/au/smartpho...-Q3bFagLE-84I8pWNocaAq5vEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds
I also dont have 5ghz and dont have the advacned wifi option to change bands... Why this model suck this much? Probably a OS stupid limitation...
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I also dont have 5ghz and dont have the advacned wifi option to change bands... Why this model suck this much? Probably a OS stupid limitation...
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5ghz is only good if you're in the same room
The A20 does support dual band, but it's disabled. I tried to enable it by replacing the mx140_wlan.hcf file located at /vendor/etc/wifi/ with the one from the A30 and it worked, but there's a problem.
For some reason the signal range is terrible, to detect a 5 GHz network the phone needs to be next to the router, if it gets some centimeters away the signal drops at the point where the network is not detected anymore.
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5ghz is only good if you're in the same room
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5ghz wifi is certainly not only good in the same room, check online heatmaps of 2.4 vs 5ghz to compare, it's not a huge difference. Given how much less interference you will get on the 5ghz it often works a lot better than 2.4ghz even at longer ranges. Fix peoples internet for a living and I've seen thousands of peoples speeds double or even triple from changing to 5ghz even when router is on the first floor and they use it on the second.
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5ghz wifi is certainly not only good in the same room, check online heatmaps of 2.4 vs 5ghz to compare, it's not a huge difference. Given how much less interference you will get on the 5ghz it often works a lot better than 2.4ghz even at longer ranges. Fix peoples internet for a living and I've seen thousands of peoples speeds double or even triple from changing to 5ghz even when router is on the first floor and they use it on the second.
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Read the article here.
It shows that 5ghz suffers from greater attenuation rates than 2.4
2.4 GHz vs. 5 GHz WiFi
Learn about when to use 2.4 GHz vs. 5 GHz WiFi with CenturyLink. The difference between these frequencies can affect your speed.
www.centurylink.com
physwizz said:
Read the article here.
It shows that 5ghz suffers from greater attenuation rates than 2.4
2.4 GHz vs. 5 GHz WiFi
Learn about when to use 2.4 GHz vs. 5 GHz WiFi with CenturyLink. The difference between these frequencies can affect your speed.
www.centurylink.com
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(I know this doesn't help much with the OP's question but to dispel hearsay I felt it needed to be said.)
I know you don't know me, but I said I resolve peoples internet problems for a living both on supplier and consumer side and have tested this with thousands of customers but you trust a random article with very little info more and don't even bother to look at heat maps? This article has been made by someone who read a blurb about wifi, but they did get one thing right...
"A lot of electronic devices and appliances use the 2.4 GHz frequency, including microwaves, baby monitors, and garage door openers. If you have many of these in your home, or if you live in apartments or condos surrounded by other people, that 2.4 GHz band is likely to be congested, which can damage speed and signal quality."
That list is very short, it also includes lots of computer peripherals, security cameras, smart home devices, walkie talkies, radios, remote controls, wireless handsets (landlines, not mobiles) basically every wireless device you can think of uses 2.4ghz and even your microwave! all these devices on a long range signal means your neighbours devices also overlap to combine together to make the 2.4ghz band for most consumers a disaster for anything requiring more than slow speeds. This goes without even mentioning that the 2.4 ghz band only has 13 channels (3 none overlapping) to spread every wifi device out on to stop interference, in most residential are this is simply not enough. In many cases this is so bad that even next to the router people can lose 80 - 90% of their speeds or have so much interference that even loading webpages takes a long time due to the amount of data being lost.
Like I said before, even if the 5ghz DOES have shorter range, it is not so short that you have to be in the same room, what would be the point? That is a something people assume because it's a "shorter range signal" but it's not that short! the 5ghz is usually faster due to it's naturally higher data rates and more consistent due to the lack of interference from intermittent signals. Most things that interfere with 5ghz are constant and therefore it's much easier to test and know what speed you can get in other rooms away from the router, unlike the 2.4 which has the same issues with passing through anything only with a load of other issues on top too!. The 5ghz also has the advantage of having over 100 wifi channels to spread networks out on to avoid them interfering with each other, a vast upgrade to the 2.4ghz.
Here is an example of a heatmap comparing 2.4 and 5ghz but just looking at any article that goes beyond a very brief description will show you why the 2.4ghz is often so much worse than the 5ghz.
What's the Difference Between 2.4 and 5 GHz WiFi?
What do these numbers actually mean? Does it realy matter? Is one better than the other? How many questions are we going to ask in this description?
socialwifi.com
2ldr - It depends on your house and nearby networks, test both bands with different devices in different rooms and compare speeds, outside of doing more thorough testing with other apps and equipment this is the easiest and quickest way to see which will work better.
You have 2 choises use BT modem BT modem Plan A: one Device in 5GHz network one device sharing Internet from BT modem feature. +Advance use Open Garden mesh client for better Internet throught BT modem. Construction of my plan:One or two devices in 5GHz WiFi network and 3 devices creating PAN network trought Bluetooth.if Your Bluetooth version is 5.0 you can use Mesh network profile. than using Mesh network structure. Mesh Bluetooth network structure helping one device to other. but you need to know you will use 2.4GHz trought BT modem and Mesh networks.
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The A20 does support dual band, but it's disabled. I tried to enable it by replacing the mx140_wlan.hcf file located at /vendor/etc/wifi/ with the one from the A30 and it worked, but there's a problem.
For some reason the signal range is terrible, to detect a 5 GHz network the phone needs to be next to the router, if it gets some centimeters away the signal drops at the point where the network is not detected anymore.
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I fixed this issue on crDroidAndroid-13.0-20221126-a20-v9.0 by copying both mx140_wlan.hcf and mx140.bin taken from this a30 git. Works great on my a20.
shammoi said:
I fixed this issue on crDroidAndroid-13.0-20221126-a20-v9.0 by copying both mx140_wlan.hcf and mx140.bin taken from this a30 git. Works great on my a20.
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Interesting. What's your A20 model? I believe I also tried to do that, but I'm going to retry it.
Done it on a SM-A205W.
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Done it on a SM-A205W.
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No luck. I still have the signal issue
Do it again in the following order maybe ?
1. Download both mx140_wlan.hcf and mx140.bin from the git I gave you above.
2. Turn your wifi off.
3. Reach /vendor/etc/wifi folder using your favorite file browser ( Mine is Mixplorer ).
4. Overwrite both files.
5. Reboot your device.
6. Turn Wifi back on.
7. Do a Wifi speed test ( Wi-Fi Sweetspots app for me ).
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Do it again in the following order maybe ?
1. Download both mx140_wlan.hcf and mx140.bin from the git I gave you above.
2. Turn your wifi off.
3. Reach /vendor/etc/wifi folder using your favorite file browser ( Mine is Mixplorer ).
4. Overwrite both files.
5. Reboot your device.
6. Turn Wifi back on.
7. Do a Wifi speed test ( Wi-Fi Sweetspots app for me ).
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I use a Magisk Module instead of directly overwriting the files, but this should make no difference. I believe it may be a hardware difference between our devices. On the schematics the 5GHz antenna seems to be marked as optional, maybe that has something to do.
I tried to put my device next to the router, and when I did it the network got detected (with bad signal tough), I could connect and the download speed oscillated between ~50-200 mbps (my network has 300 mbps). Once I moved further from it, the WiFi disconnected as the signal was lost.