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Hello Guys
I wonder if any of you here is an oldschool nerd that would love (like myself) to have an MSX emulator on their Pocket PC
Anyone is up for this?!
I really would love to play Zanac & Castle on my PPC, anyone has the time & knowledge to do this?
Hope you all had a nice weekend!
All the best
Emulator
I found these
http://www.zophar.net/ppc/msx.html
I tried them both, they both run on my Universal but both could not run the ROMs I loved & still love (I play with them sometimes on my laptop with a special MSX emulator )
Have any of you tried these before?!
Can I be rude and ask if anyone is interested in the first place? As I didn't get any reply to the topic (when I thought that the site is full of old school nerds like myself )
Cheers Mates!!
Yeh that would be a good thing.
While me mates had speccies, i had a good old msx! Never waited for games to load like me mates had to cos of the good old cartridge slot! Hehe!
Kings Valley 2 anyone?
tomchap said:
Yeh that would be a good thing.
Kings Valley 2 anyone?
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That was an excellent choice mate!
I myself however prefer Castle, Castle Excellent & Zanac
These were my favorite games (still are lol)
So did you got the chance to try the MSX emulators I have refered to in the previous post? Did they work with you? Do you need Kings Valley 2 ROM file? LOL
Cheers Mate!
Well im at work so will try them later on tonight, my pc is playing up at home so have to get that sorted first.
Nemesis 2 was also a great game, along with F1 Spirit and Knightmare! Hehe! The memories, theyre all flooding back!
Got a few roms thanks, used to use them on me laptop, before i sold it! hehe!
Which msx did you have? I had the toshiba and then the pioneer.
Well im at work so will try them later on tonight, my pc is playing up at home so have to get that sorted first.
Nemesis 2 was also a great game, along with F1 Spirit and Knightmare! Hehe! The memories, theyre all flooding back!
Got a few roms thanks, used to use them on me laptop, before i sold it! hehe!
Which msx did you have? I had the toshiba and then the pioneer.
hey did anyone manage to complete salamander's level 6 on their msx?
i never managed to kill the last guardian in level 6?
i also tried to see if using salamander with nemesis II would give the secret new level which would enable me to beat the guardian in level 6 would work, but no luck?
can one play these games on the universal?
hey did anyone manage to complete salamander's level 6 on their msx?
i never managed to kill the last guardian in level 6?
i also tried to see if using salamander with nemesis II would give the secret new level which would enable me to beat the guardian in level 6 would work, but no luck?
can one play these games on the universal?
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Well im at work so will try them later on tonight, my pc is playing up at home so have to get that sorted first.
Nemesis 2 was also a great game, along with F1 Spirit and Knightmare! Hehe! The memories, theyre all flooding back!
Got a few roms thanks, used to use them on me laptop, before i sold it! hehe!
Which msx did you have? I had the toshiba and then the pioneer.
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I hope your PC is sorted out now & that had the time to try the emulators, please update us when you can.
As for my MSX it was Yamaha
Have a nice weekend
Cheers
xda_guy said:
hey did anyone manage to complete salamander's level 6 on their msx?
i never managed to kill the last guardian in level 6?
i also tried to see if using salamander with nemesis II would give the secret new level which would enable me to beat the guardian in level 6 would work, but no luck?
can one play these games on the universal?
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Hello xda_guy,
Well well well LOL, finally I found the nerd generation I belong to
As for Salamandar I couldn't play that because if I remember well, it needed MSX2 and mine was plain old MSX so wouldn't run it
However if you want I remember there is an emulator for PC that has cheating feature in, where you NEVER die if you are curious to see whats after level 6
As for being able to play it on Universal, well this is why the original post is all about, if you check my post where I put a URL, you will find that there are two different MSX emulators for PocketPC, the problem is I tried them both, they both run on my Universal without error messages, but they did NOT operate any ROM (Read Only Memory which are binary file images of the cartridges we used to use in the MSX era, I am not talking about the Universal ROM), so if you got the chance to try them both, and see if they work with you, maybe something is wrong in my Universal ROM, or if I am doing something wrong way, or if I am missing something.
Please whatever you find out, share it with us & maybe if it works, we can organize a nostalgic championship on who would finish a game first or who would go further or anything like that.
Until then, have a great weekend
Cheers
hey cerberu
you finally did find the nerd gen, i am surprised that so many of us had msx computers, my mates only had commodores's and ibm compatible's
i had a sony hitbit 32KB, i believe that was msx. I am just getting used to my universal, so have not downloaded any emulators, do i just download it and install like any other application?
will keep you posted soon as i manage to get something going, have a nice weekend
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hey cerberu
you finally did find the nerd gen, i am surprised that so many of us had msx computers, my mates only had commodores's and ibm compatible's
i had a sony hitbit 32KB, i believe that was msx. I am just getting used to my universal, so have not downloaded any emulators, do i just download it and install like any other application?
will keep you posted soon as i manage to get something going, have a nice weekend
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Hi xda_guy
I am glad I did
I am starting to think a nerd once, a nerd forever LOL
My friends had commodores & sinclairs, then later on some had MSX, as for IBM compatible, they were VERY expensive that era, as with MSX you could use your TV for display so it was more home oriented.
Anyways if I remember well mine was Yamaha AX170 with 64kB (it is funny how these GREAT games (back then at least) were but a few kBs.
As for the emulators it's not even installation, all you need to do is to download them, then copy them into your storage card or device memory, then run them, you will get the usual warning as it can not identify the software publisher, you can run them and they wont ruin your Universal (they didnt ruin mine), the problem is that I believe they were written for previous version of Windows Mobile, thats why I couldnt get them to operate any ROM, my friend is coming back after the weekend from 12 days business trip, he has an i-mate PDA2k, so I will try it on his PocketPC & see, if you had better luck yourself please tell me what did you exactly do, then we will start a Championship (though my boss wont like it for sure LOL).
Finally I would like to add, I found a stand alone VERY old game from Atari 2600 Generation (remember that big black box? Or am I getting back way too back in time? LOL) I was saying I found a PAC-MAN game that is working ok on my Universal, it does not need emulator or anything, it is a stand alone application, if you are interested (or anyone else) please let me know and I will provide the link or upload it.
Have a nice weekend (or what is left of it)
Cheers & Good night!
hi
i have got a good mind to chane my handle to hitbit_guy , yes, i was using a 14 inch sony as my display yamaha ax170 was more advanced than the sony hitbit if i am not mistaken.
atari2600, that is the original, ah yars revenge was my fave, then along came the atari clone's wow, at some point, the 2600 stood for the number of games "pre-installed". pac-man, yes, very much interested, show me the link. my office mates will be interested
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i have got a good mind to chane my handle to hitbit_guy , yes, i was using a 14 inch sony as my display yamaha ax170 was more advanced than the sony hitbit if i am not mistaken.
atari2600, that is the original, ah yars revenge was my fave, then along came the atari clone's wow, at some point, the 2600 stood for the number of games "pre-installed". pac-man, yes, very much interested, show me the link. my office mates will be interested
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As for display, I used our 20" Sony Trinitron TV (that was really something back then lol, imagine playing your favorite games on that huge display ), I tried to find Emulator for Atari as well LOL, I found one that is distributed as an open source, and I asked a friend who works as games programmer for cellphones to port it for Windows Mobile 2005, will let you know when he is done (if ever LOL), mean while enjoy this (you & your office mates :twisted: dont let the boss catch you LOL)
Good night mate!
thanks for pacman, does it run on hp devices too?
alpha squad, load runner were neat too(there even was a rambo game), however could not get beyond a certain level, the lack of a save functionality on msx killed the chances of completing the games.
i think what will be real cool is playing games during meetings
xda_guy said:
thanks for pacman, does it run on hp devices too?
alpha squad, load runner were neat too(there even was a rambo game), however could not get beyond a certain level, the lack of a save functionality on msx killed the chances of completing the games.
i think what will be real cool is playing games during meetings
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Good day xda_guy
I am glad you like it, I don't know if it runs on HP devices as I've never tried that, I don't know what their CPU is, and I don't know if it has to do with that, I tried to look for the site of where I got the Pac Man from but I wasn't able to, anyways if I remember well it was designed (if I am not wrong) for ARM CPUs, if HP uses ARM, then I guess since its same software & same hardware, I guess it would work, anyways, you can wait till tomorrow & let one of your office mates with HP PPC try it & let us know
As for Load Runner, absolutely true, it was one of the games I liked (I like puzzle & brainteasing games) the only thing I hated about Load Runner was it lacked music, and it's characters were way too small even for the 20" TV display LOL.
Rambo, nope not my style but my friends liked it, and yes I agree that save game was a missing very important feature, Castle & Castle Excellent did have save game (they charge you for one life to save though), I am trying to remember, did Kings Valley had codes on which you can start from next level if you finished them successfully, or was it just 'The Lost Viking' game for Amiga & PC that did that?!
Have a nice weekend (or what is left of it)
Cheers
hey cerberus
wil try pacman on the hp and will let you know, perhaps it was compiled for the unversal platform and will nto work on the hp?
i never heard of castle/castle excellent, one game that i managed to finish and liked a lot was magical whiz kid
have a nice weekend
xda_guy said:
hey cerberus
wil try pacman on the hp and will let you know, perhaps it was compiled for the unversal platform and will nto work on the hp?
i never heard of castle/castle excellent, one game that i managed to finish and liked a lot was magical whiz kid
have a nice weekend
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Hey xda_guy
to be honest, this is the first time EVER since I've joined XDA Developers, that I came to such shock, I was literally :shock: :shock: :shock: you dont know castle & castle excellent??!!!
Dude the main reason I want MSX emulator is because I never had the chance to finish Castle Excellent back them (I did finish Castle though), you might want to check these links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Castle_(game)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Excellent
You know the word addiction?! Castle games were my addiction back then (not that things changed much since that time LOL, like I said earlier, a nerd once a nerd forever )
Now whenever the MSX Emulator works for our Universal, I want to ask you to download Castle & we will play & he who finishes first is the winner.
As for HP & PacMan please post your experience here, it might not help me myself as I dont have HP, but it might help others who might want to try the game on their PPC.
Have a great last few hours of weekend
Hello xda_guy
any updates?!
Hello cereberus
sorry for the late reply. work has been a nightmare last one week
i checked out castle, looks interesting and addictive , unfortunately work has taken up most of my time, will install the emulator tomorrow and give it a whirl.
i dont think my colleague tried pacman on hp, he was overwhelmed with work, the boss is away next week so i will ask him to give it a try if he has not tried already
Hi guy's
I've started a thread over at tvcatchup.com's forum to gather support for a windows mobile application or at least access to the tv streams that the iphone uses as they have a special portal that doesnt use flash.
Just wondered if it would be possible for you to show your interest in this thread too and bring tvcatchup.com to WM
Thanks
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Cant believe there arnt more people out there who want this working on WM!!, maybe its my fault for just making this post in the Leo section of the forum.
I've tried seting my user agent in Firefox to iphone 3.0 UA and managed to get the page to load where for bbc one it has this url
http://84.234.22.109:1935/iphone/iphone_bbcone.sdp/playlist.m3u8?stream=bbcone
which downloads a playlist, if you open the playlist in notpad you get this
#EXTM3U
#EXT-X-STREAM-INFROGRAM-ID=1,BANDWIDTH=100000
http://84.234.22.109:1935/iphone/ip...t.m3u8?wowzasessionid=431120102&stream=bbcone
But after that I have no idea what to do to make it stream on the phone
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But after that I have no idea what to do to make it stream on the phone
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It's the m3u8 file format that's the problem there. It's not something we can play on WM devices.
I've tried to sign up to the site so I can post words of encouragement and support on the thread, but it just keeps throwing an error, so i can't
Good luck with this - I'd love to see this on WM.
Surely the playlist just directs the iphone to some H.264 stream, Im sure something like coreplayer would be able to play that? but as you say the playlist doesnt open.
I tried renaming the .m3u8 to just .m3u (as that's what coreplayer recognises) but no luck after that,
Can I ask a mod to move this to a more appropriate section to get more exposure.
Thanks
made a post on tvcatchup thread. lets wait and see if they show any interest.
Well it looks like there's been a response from them
Their are 12 versions of Windows Mobile operateing system.
Id hate to guess how many different phones are useing the variaty of Os's.
Their are massive compatibility issues within each and every OS version and Mobile Phone Type.
iPhone was chosen as our first step onto the mobile market as their is ONE operateing system and specifications between each iPhone are the same. Its one of the most sold new phones on the market and its keep selling. It was highly feasible for an iphone application.
Windows Mobile on the other hand would be very complex. It would cost TVCatchup to develop such application, and we have not yet finished the iPhone which is in Beta.
One step at a time im afraid, we can not jump into every handset from day one.
If theirs a skilled windows mobile developer reading this that uses TVCatchup, we do have an API.
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No idea where they got the 12 versions of WM from but its the last sentance that perked up my ears, They have an API for a budding xda developer to use!!!
DMAND said:
Well it looks like there's been a response from them
No idea where they got the 12 versions of WM from but its the last sentance that perked up my ears, They have an API for a budding xda developer to use!!!
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Yep... i read that and replied also (im ukbreakbeat on there)
Come on XDA Devs... you know you want to get on this!
Cheers mate, I've contacted a certain dev on here with a well know tv app, hopefully they give him the goodies
Anyone know about any progress? Is FryWalker working on it?
He let me know he had been in contact with their lead developer, and that they were very helpful, I belive he's working on it
I thought I'd bump this as Fry seems to be getting the cold shoulder from the tvcatchup guys apparently, I thought anyone interested in the development would like to know and of course let them know that us WM owners still want an app developed!
Surely all that would be needed is a codec for core player to allow it to play the m3u8 playlist??
I have done a bit of sleuthing and there is a program called pocket player that claims to be able to play m3u8 files but I've had no luck with this so far.
I just use Skyfire to watch.. and it works fine. Looks perfect especially in landscape mode.
Yeah Skyfire works but it's frame rate is low
Hi,
I'm using skyfire on t-mobile UK and get an error on the stream stating it is non-UK - has anyone else seen this and does anyone know a workaround ?
Ta,
Inclement
inclement_weather said:
Hi,
I'm using skyfire on t-mobile and get an error on the stream stating it is non-UK - has anyone else seen this and does anyone know a workaround ?
Ta,
Inclement
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If you check on the TV catchup forums, this is because you downloaded the US version of the software and not the UK version.
DMAND said:
I thought I'd bump this as Fry seems to be getting the cold shoulder from the tvcatchup guys apparently, I thought anyone interested in the development would like to know and of course let them know that us WM owners still want an app developed!
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I thought they were all on board for Fry to develop his MyPlayer app to include TV Catchup streams?
SteveI said:
If you check on the TV catchup forums, this is because you downloaded the US version of the software and not the UK version.
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Hi - thanks for the tip - I checked around and had to change my DNS settings to a UK server then reinstall Skyfire so it'd pick up a UK farm. Done that and it connects fine !
Only thing (there's always something) is now that the picture is great but there's no audio - any ideas why no sound is coming through and if there's something I need to change ? I checked the IP settings and there's no compression set - not sure what else to check.
Thanks for any help,
Inclement
Karlos G said:
Yeah Skyfire works but it's frame rate is low
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Agree. Installed it last night, and it works albeit a bit choppy. I only tried it due to a dedicated iphone freak at work going on about tvcatchup, and that the HD2 can't do it. Can't wait to see him later
Hi,
does anyone tried to port the Xbox Music App to Windows 7 ?
Is it possible, or to run with virual machine and dll library of Win 8 ?
i really need this
Maybe someone can put this extracted app to this thread, i can try to run the exe
saywa said:
Hi,
does anyone tried to port the Xbox Music App to Windows 7 ?
Is it possible, or to run with virual machine and dll library of Win 8 ?
i really need this
Maybe someone can put this extracted app to this thread, i can try to run the exe
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The Xbox Music app for Windows 8 is built using the WinRT runtime, which is not available on Windows 7. To my knowledge this is not possible, also with an app like Xbox Music, I think hacking around that would be a bad idea for various reasons. Furthermore, the entire app 'experience' (full screen, metro driven environment) is not even remotely supported in Windows 7, so assuming you could 'trick' the WinRT backend onto Windows 7, the OS and App are not going to get along well at all, let alone if all of this was done somehow, I peg the chances of buying/streaming/etc actually working as close to 0.
I have Windows 8 Pro, custom build, nothing special though and even with this I can't stream or purchase song's on my Windows 8 Xbox Music app, despite hours of troubleshooting, there is quite a bit going on in the background for apps like Xbox Music.
Apologies, if that was more information than you wanted, anyhow that's my take on this. Hope it helps.
Why would you *want* to, though? Xbox Music is a crap app compared to what it "replaces", the Zune app. Zune runs great on Win7 (and also runs on Win8, in desktop mode) and is still available for download from http://zune.net. Xbox Music Pass and Zune Pass are the same thing; I can still stream and download my music using either app... but where Xbox Music is likely to tell me that for some reason it can't play the track, or to stutter or lag when picking or switching songs, Zune is capable of such crazy and advanced features as playing a Smart DJ list based on a specific song, rather than just based on an artist, and you can mark songs as "disliked" to avoid them playing again.
MS seriously screwed the pooch with their Xbox Music app on the PC... and for Windows RT, you can't even go back to Zune! Possibly my biggest disappointment in the new OS.
i just need it, you can't understand, many of us need it, if you dont like it, others will do.
It could be emulated.
I'm just confused what feature of the new app you're looking for. For *everything* that I've found except usability with a touchscreen, Zune is better. If you have a touchscreen, you should definitely be running Win8 anyhow. Let me know what you're looking for and I'll help you if I can, but I'm not going to put effort into supporting an inferior app on an older platform for the sake of "i just need it, you can't understand"!
saywa said:
i just need it
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If it is that much of a requirement just get windows 8.
saywa said:
you can't understand
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How incredibly closed minded that is. How do you know I can't understand? just a tip, insulting peoples intelligence is no way to get help.
ok i didnt wanted to say there but there is a song of a good friend, JUST BECAUSE of THAT ! Only There
simple as hell, i cant and i dont want to get windows 8 (other reasons and dont ask for them too)
i know its a simple job porting that app for a good developer as you all are in here (many)
i know Zune is better but i dont know why microsoft is cutting the limit of windows 7
i can also pay if you can emulate or port or extract that app so that its working on windows 7, you dont have to reply if you dont know how to do it or annoy me asking why i want it (as now you know it but still trynna continue )
sorry but true story
saywa said:
ok i didnt wanted to say there but there is a song of a good friend, JUST BECAUSE of THAT ! Only There
simple as hell, i cant and i dont want to get windows 8 (other reasons and dont ask for them too)
i know its a simple job porting that app for a good developer as you all are in here (many)
i know Zune is better but i dont know why microsoft is cutting the limit of windows 7
i can also pay if you can emulate or port or extract that app so that its working on windows 7, you dont have to reply if you dont know how to do it or annoy me asking why i want it (as now you know it but still trynna continue )
sorry but true story
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It's a javascript/HTML app. Porting is possible, but difficult, and I don't believe anyone actually cares enough to do it. If it's that important to you, do it yourself, or convince someone you know to do it. Also note that it will be illegal.
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It's a javascript/HTML app. Porting is possible, but difficult, and I don't believe anyone actually cares enough to do it. If it's that important to you, do it yourself, or convince someone you know to do it. Also note that it will be illegal.
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finally a better answer
hacking anything without premission is illegal, so thats not a problem, but no one cares, as the internet exists
and as i said, i would pay, so if someone can do that simple job of a pro developer, you can contact me.
i bet someday some one will do this, i just want to boost this ! ;D
PS : i know more than the basics of Javascript and HTML, but it isnt enough, maybe i give a try, but anyway, i dont have windows 8, so could anyone extract it and upload it so devs can start deving ! ? !
saywa said:
hacking anything without premission is illegal
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And we don't have permission from microsoft to do this
saywa said:
PS : i know more than the basics of Javascript and HTML, but it isnt enough, maybe i give a try, but anyway, i dont have windows 8, so could anyone extract it and upload it so devs can start deving ! ? !
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It's better to send your enthusiasm to another direction. Looks like you can't even imagine how is it difficult.
Though mb after hundreds of years you'll achieve something.
Meh. A lot of the stuff that goes on XDA-Devs is illegal somewhere, often right here in the USA. So long as it doesn't really piss off the big companies or the government (and I mean *really* piss off, not "meh, they aren't worth the effort" grade of annoyance) though, it's usually fine. Keep it justifiably clean. For example, porting a free app from one OS to another - even without the developer's permission - seems perfectly reasonable, especially if you leave any in-app advertising intact.
I still don't understand why this is desired, though. The OP doesn't quite seem to understand that people are trying to help solve his or her problem. There's no need to get defensive. When I ask "why", it's not "you're an idiot for wanting this"; it's "this is hard and there's probably a better way to do whatever you're trying to do". So... there's a song. It's on the Xbox Music marketplace but not the Zune marketplace? That's weird, since so far as I've seen thus far they are completely identical right down to the top downloaded songs lists at any given time (meaning MS doesn't distinguish between them on the server side). Please actually explain what the problem is, if you want people to help you.
Frankly, I expect most of us see the Xbox Music app as crap and/or Win7 as legacy and boring. There are plenty of challenges in the new OS that are much more interesting; flattering our skills and offering the appeal of a challenge only works when people are looking for something to do. Personally, I would *much* rather spend my time trying to get Pidgin running on Windows RT (to replace the broken built-in messenger) than try to get the awful Xbox Music app running on an OS that I'm using less and less... and it's a more interesting challenge, too.
Oh, one more thing that people seem to forget a lot (especially the newcomers): XDA-Devs is a *developer* forum. It is not a "make my phone|tablet|PC|whatever really cool!" forum. Nor is it a feature request forum, a tech support forum, a ranting-and-raving forum, or a piracy forum. In fact, requesting most of those is against the forum rules to one degree or another. If you're posting a new thread in dev&hacking, you should be offering something you developed, a hack you found, or something else of that nature.
I'd like to point out that not all hacking is illegal.
If you do t know how to do it and know one seems enthused about, it seems you're SOL
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
Ok, keep me in the loop
Useless post of a useless guy
saywa said:
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
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It's not run of the mill JS and HTML, that part would be easy. The hard part is that that JS and HTML requires custom libraries that aren't present in Windows 7, and backporting them would be damn near impossible.
saywa said:
What ever you say, i only can be satisfied if i get the app working on Windows 7, what you say is just leaving comments, i dont give any **** what you think is illegal or not. One of you simply said its HTML and Javascript, and you think that is hard as hell ? I cant confirm and i can bet it isn't just JS and HTML as it's a mix of Zune, iTunes, Spotify, but YOU said this, and YOU wanted to talk.
You cant ask for reasons if you wont understand. So you dont have to post me posts that i wont read.
Do it or leave without comment, damn. PM me if you are interested.
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you keep saying that we won't understand, just tell us rather than being all cryptic. Name the one reason that you need the xbox music app cause as GoodDayToDie said, the content is identical (I just checked myself) the only difference being that zune is much more useful.
EDIT: Would I be wrong in saying it is because you want the 30 day trial from xbox music rather than the 14 day trial you get in zune?
I already SAID the reason DUDE, just read the text, BUT you still dont do and continue annoyin ****
you all talkin ****, im searching professional devs, which could get paid if they want to, you all are noobs (except GoodDay2Die, who never said its hard, just asked for reason, that i answered and maybe its not his area)
i dont think that back porting libraries are that hard though, and still don't believe that Xbox Music is just HTML, JS, as Zune is in native code and Xbox Music is upgraded stuff of that. JS is impossible in here, unlogic pure. Net, silverlight, any thing is in there, and again i dont have this, i just saw some images, and no one confirmed or extracted that.
Still talking **** ?!
saywa said:
I already SAID the reason DUDE, just read the text, BUT you still dont do and continue annoyin ****
you all talkin ****, im searching professional devs, which could get paid if they want to, you all are noobs (except GoodDay2Die, who never said its hard, just asked for reason, that i answered and maybe its not his area)
i dont think that back porting libraries are that hard though, and still don't believe that Xbox Music is just HTML, JS, as Zune is in native code and Xbox Music is upgraded stuff of that. JS is impossible in here, unlogic pure. Net, silverlight, any thing is in there, and again i dont have this, i just saw some images, and no one confirmed or extracted that.
Still talking **** ?!
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It's not happening, you obviously don't have the skill, and any serious dev is just going to laugh at you. It would be an insane amount of work to do this, and I doubt that you have the budget to do it. Use the Zune app, upgrade to Windows 8, or go without. You obviously don't understand WinRT, and now you're just being an ass. The devs here do things on a voluntary basis and no one is going to help you when you're rude, and seemingly don't understand the vastness of what you're asking at all.
1. Whats the main difference between android tv box and android tv stick (like the MK809). Is one better than the other? I see the 'box' seems to be more expensive?
2. Are MK802 and MK808 made by the same company? (Ie: is MK809 the successor of MK802). I find it very confusiong when people mention MK802-II, then I read somewhere that mentioned MK802-III, it kindda confuses me.
3. Does MK809 support XBMC? I would like to watch international channels on the box/stick.
4. I was looking to buy one locally, and I checked craigslist. He mentioned about how he can help me 'jailbreak' and put crazy apps on it. I am confused with the term 'jailbreak'? Arent these stick 'jailbroken' to begin with at the first place? I thought these box/stick arent official products made by big companies anyways.. so it should be able to support all apps without trouble?
5. Whats the best remote/keyword/mice to use with the MK808 or MK809? I see some recommended the Measy R11 while some use the Measy R12. Which one would you guys recommend?
Please help. I am getting very excited about these devices. I dont want to be stuck with a 'dumb-TV'.
Thanks a million.
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androidtvnoob said:
1. Whats the main difference between android tv box and android tv stick (like the MK809). Is one better than the other? I see the 'box' seems to be more expensive?
2. Are MK802 and MK808 made by the same company? (Ie: is MK809 the successor of MK802). I find it very confusiong when people mention MK802-II, then I read somewhere that mentioned MK802-III, it kindda confuses me.
3. Does MK809 support XBMC? I would like to watch international channels on the box/stick.
4. I was looking to buy one locally, and I checked craigslist. He mentioned about how he can help me 'jailbreak' and put crazy apps on it. I am confused with the term 'jailbreak'? Arent these stick 'jailbroken' to begin with at the first place? I thought these box/stick arent official products made by big companies anyways.. so it should be able to support all apps without trouble?
5. Whats the best remote/keyword/mice to use with the MK808 or MK809? I see some recommended the Measy R11 while some use the Measy R12. Which one would you guys recommend?
Please help. I am getting very excited about these devices. I dont want to be stuck with a 'dumb-TV'.
Thanks a million.
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No prob men...
1. No, the one is not better than the other, but I would recommend the TV stick.
2. Yes the MK809 is the successor of the MK802(same company)
3. Yes it does.:angel:
4. Jailbroken is not the right therm for this, it's called "rooting", these sticks doesn't come pre-rooted, but there is an app called Aptoide which gives u the optionto download all the crazy apps U want! (for free) (just download in the Play store) DONT EVER PAY FOR THIS!
If u want more information, just mail me!
5. I would recommend the FlyMouse RC12
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WeDevelop said:
No prob men...
1. No, the one is not better than the other, but I would recommend the TV stick.
2. Yes the MK809 is the successor of the MK802(same company)
3. Yes it does.:angel:
4. Jailbroken is not the right therm for this, it's called "rooting", these sticks doesn't come pre-rooted, but there is an app called Aptoide which gives u the optionto download all the crazy apps U want! (for free) (just download in the Play store) DONT EVER PAY FOR THIS!
If u want more information, just mail me!
5. I would recommend the FlyMouse RC12
Succes with this!
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Thanks for answering my questions.
1. So why do people bother buying the 'box' if its more expensive and bulky?
2. Great.
3. Great What does XBMC really do anyways? Is it hard to get that setup on the stick?
4. Do I need to 'root' my stick in order to use Aptoide?
5. oo nice, I see it has a touchpad too. So its basically the same thing but WITH touchpad right?
Another question here: Why do some people flash their ROM/firmware? Does it give the stick more features or ability or something? Thanks
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Thanks for answering my questions.
1. So why do people bother buying the 'box' if its more expensive and bulky?
2. Great.
3. Great What does XBMC really do anyways? Is it hard to get that setup on the stick?
4. Do I need to 'root' my stick in order to use Aptoide?
5. oo nice, I see it has a touchpad too. So its basically the same thing but WITH touchpad right?
Another question here: Why do some people flash their ROM/firmware? Does it give the stick more features or ability or something? Thanks
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Root is just admin privileges like on a PC. You can pretty much run every app without Root(admin) access but some programs like BackUp apps that need admin access to save certain files... or editing system files.
You don't need to root for 98% of the stuff. Flashing firmwares/roms bring fixes, new features, updates, new stuff, etc... also optimize the system so it is more stable and faster. My MK808 tests at ~6000 normal and ~11000 with a custom Rom. Big difference.
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Root is just admin privileges like on a PC. You can pretty much run every app without Root(admin) access but some programs like BackUp apps that need admin access to save certain files... or editing system files.
You don't need to root for 98% of the stuff. Flashing firmwares/roms bring fixes, new features, updates, new stuff, etc... also optimize the system so it is more stable and faster. My MK808 tests at ~6000 normal and ~11000 with a custom Rom. Big difference.
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Thanks again. Would you recommend buying the MK808 or MK809II now? I know going for the successor MK809II seems to be an ideal option, but I also see that MK808 is more popular and seem to get a lot of support. Whats your suggestion on this?
What are some good custom firmware/roms I should be looking into, if I plan to flash my device as well? Will it 'brick' my device easily?
Well I think I have rooted my Mojo, so far so good. I have setup Nova Launcher as well. My phone and Mojo look almost alike
I of course have external Monitor 1920x1080 and I was expecting better imaging on the screen. I moved from a chromebook to the Mojo and thought the screen would be better - everything is so large. All my USB accessories (webcam, mic, headphones, usb hub, usb flash and speakers) fail to work. Replaced the mike and headphones to a 3.5 plug unit so I can hear sounds now.
I have tried to add multitasking to the Mojo, so I could do at least two things at once But I have not been successful yet
I am a Kixeye Battle Pirate Junkie - I have found that Puffin is the best I have for now to use with Battle Pirates (flash based). But have at least three problems with Puffin: (1.) Arrows keys will not work most of the time. (2.) Must Maximize screen to move around and Minimize to type text. Either Apple or Google screws us on the flash based games. (3.) Game does not fix on screen - on see a third of it without scrolling up and down.
So I come to you all to ask for suggestions, ideas, and comments. Example how to you have apps designed for the Mojo in mind. Some reason people hear "android" and all they think about is a tiny little screen that you touch to move stuff around with your finger...
I really need some Mojo friends to chat with :fingers-crossed:
Thanks Andy
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Well I think I have rooted my Mojo, so far so good. I have setup Nova Launcher as well. My phone and Mojo look almost alike
I of course have external Monitor 1920x1080 and I was expecting better imaging on the screen. I moved from a chromebook to the Mojo and thought the screen would be better - everything is so large. All my USB accessories (webcam, mic, headphones, usb hub, usb flash and speakers) fail to work. Replaced the mike and headphones to a 3.5 plug unit so I can hear sounds now.
I have tried to add multitasking to the Mojo, so I could do at least two things at once But I have not been successful yet
I am a Kixeye Battle Pirate Junkie - I have found that Puffin is the best I have for now to use with Battle Pirates (flash based). But have at least three problems with Puffin: (1.) Arrows keys will not work most of the time. (2.) Must Maximize screen to move around and Minimize to type text. Either Apple or Google screws us on the flash based games. (3.) Game does not fix on screen - on see a third of it without scrolling up and down.
So I come to you all to ask for suggestions, ideas, and comments. Example how to you have apps designed for the Mojo in mind. Some reason people hear "android" and all they think about is a tiny little screen that you touch to move stuff around with your finger...
I really need some Mojo friends to chat with :fingers-crossed:
Thanks Andy
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Please if ya all could help me with adding Multitasking to my Mojo console .... Please contact me
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Please if ya all could help me with adding Multitasking to my Mojo console .... Please contact me
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Unfortunately it's not possible yet. Wait until android M is released which includes multitasking capabilities. If I find time I'll try to port RemixOS.
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Mojo chat not ever active... is there ANYONE here to chat with about my Mojo... Just reset it. It was resetting itself every few minutes so I and back to square one.
So I am not positive it was setup correctly???
I think soundabout killed my Mojo. (it was the last app I installed) has trying to get sound out to my HDMI port on TV/Monitor.
Which root process should I use??
Not sure which Launcher to use was using Nova Prime, is the anything else that works better??
Can I update to the new Android M (Right now it is on Android 4.2.2)??
What apps are a absolute for the Mojo??
Who is the Mojo Guru here on XDA?? (I want to be a friend please)
Hopeful ~ Andy
PS I have tried several times to change my email... It should be [email protected], the other email on file has not been used by me in years.
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Unfortunately it's not possible yet. Wait until android M is released which includes multitasking capabilities. If I find time I'll try to port RemixOS.
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Hello Unjustified Dev,
Do I understand that Marshmellow is out now??
What is RemixOS - will that help mojo's audio or sound?
I really need a Mojo Mentor to help me along since I can not get on Mojo's chat.
BTW should I be using this Tapatalk thing
I am afraid that my post are not getting seen or if anyone knows how frustrating to learn all this by trail and error and going back to square one.
I am also trying to figure out how to use this forum.
Is there a xda unread badge for mojo? Will check back later. ~ Two Wolf
ajelliottjr said:
Hello Unjustified Dev,
Do I understand that Marshmellow is out now??
What is RemixOS - will that help mojo's audio or sound?
I really need a Mojo Mentor to help me along since I can not get on Mojo's chat.
BTW should I be using this Tapatalk thing
I am afraid that my post are not getting seen or if anyone knows how frustrating to learn all this by trail and error and going back to square one.
I am also trying to figure out how to use this forum.
Is there a xda unread badge for mojo? Will check back later. ~ Two Wolf
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M is not released yet , but officially announced. RemixOS is a version of android modified for desktop experience which includes a sort of desktop window feature it will not change the sound at all. What's wrong with the Mojo's sound? I haven't ran stock so I can't comment on it.
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That remixos sounds cool where do I learn more??
I have 80% hearing loss so there are times when I need to boost the volume up... due to low volume records and whispers BTW Thank You for your replies
Oh when I reset did I lose my rooting? which supersu do I use the seems to be a few with that name?
And is second screen the best to use on mojo ( The screen on monitor is so big )??
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ajelliottjr said:
That remixos sounds cool where do I learn more??
I have 80% hearing loss so there are times when I need to boost the volume up... due to low volume records and whispers BTW Thank You for your replies
Oh when I reset did I lose my rooting? which supersu do I use the seems to be a few with that name?
And is second screen the best to use on mojo ( The screen on monitor is so big )??
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You can checkout remixos here https://youtu.be/NicS4VTm7Bk they are closed source so this will be a port from the nexus 10. If you factory reset you do not loose rooting. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by second screen.
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I will peek at the url TYVM... SecondScreen is an app used to adjust resolution and dpi of monitors
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AVG says it is rooted but my apps that require rooting are not working atm...
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AVG says it is rooted but my apps that require rooting are not working atm...
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Have you flashed a custom recovery? You can flash the latest supersu if so.
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WOW I have been eagerly working with my mojo.
All a sudden second screen app is working IDK its freaky !!
But supersu is no where to be found weird. Which version of supersu should I put back on??
That Remix looks pretty cool do you think it is better that Mashmallow??
Thank You for your replies. ~ Two Wolf
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ajelliottjr said:
WOW I have been eagerly working with my mojo.
All a sudden second screen app is working IDK its freaky !!
But supersu is no where to be found weird. Which version of supersu should I put back on??
That Remix looks pretty cool do you think it is better that Mashmallow??
Thank You for your replies. ~ Two Wolf
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I would flash the latest version. By googling supersu zip you will find a thread by chainfire with the download. If you install my TWRP you will be able to flash it from recovery. Honestly I can't say as I have not ran remixos yet which is why I'm trying to port it to see what's it all about. Currently I'm running on 5.1.1 CyanogenMod and it's way better than stock 4.2.2.
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I would flash the latest version. By googling supersu zip you will find a thread by chainfire with the download. If you install my TWRP you will be able to flash it from recovery. Honestly I can't say as I have not ran remixos yet which is why I'm trying to port it to see what's it all about. Currently I'm running on 5.1.1 CyanogenMod and it's way better than stock 4.2.2.
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OK, Good Morning. Please keep in mind I am pretty new at this Mojo/XDA/supersu/rooting thing so pls bare with me. It sounds like this 5.1.1 is the cat's meow, so I will look into it If ya think Marshmallow will be a while before available on Mojo. The remixOS looks like it requires a touch screen in the videos maybe they have a work around for non touch screens.
How is Memphis these days I was stationed there back in 1975 and again in 1979 at Millington. I always loved getting out and about - the people and landscape was beautiful. "UD"... When I got the Second Screen app running this time it was flawless. I could not expect any better. Well I better go check out this CyanogenMod thing. Please have a nice day. ~ TW (Two Wolf)
The mojo unfortunately came out with android jellybean which is 2+ years old now and very limited compared to kitkat/lollypop.
The hardware is still great by todays standards.. it runs lollypop (CM12) with no problems.
Sadly madcatz never showed much love regarding the mojo.. they're probably now clearing old stock and putting it behind them as a mistake
So, there's never been much of a community here.. android 'microconsoles' were very niche and the mojo wasn't the cheapest (like ouya $99 junk)
@Unjustified Dev is the young man who gave us CM12 and androidTV for the mojo... a huge undertaking and he did it without even having the mojo.. very impressive
IS M.O.J.O. a Mistake, I hope not.
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The mojo unfortunately came out with android jellybean which is 2+ years old now and very limited compared to kitkat/lollypop.
The hardware is still great by todays standards.. it runs lollypop (CM12) with no problems.
Sadly madcatz never showed much love regarding the mojo.. they're probably now clearing old stock and putting it behind them as a mistake
So, there's never been much of a community here.. android 'microconsoles' were very niche and the mojo wasn't the cheapest (like ouya $99 junk)
@Unjustified Dev is the young man who gave us CM12 and androidTV for the mojo... a huge undertaking and he did it without even having the mojo.. very impressive
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GWALDO,
Greeting from Missouri. I am enjoying my MOJO. I am very Interested in the CM12 Mod and the Android TV app as well. If @Unjustified Dev can or will help me apply them to my MOJO I would be very Glad to move to them. He has also mentioned REMIXOS which sound very exciting as well, and looking forward to appling it to my MOJO.
When I am not in Battle Pirates (Kixeye.com) I and constantly exploring the Android/MOJO world trying to learn all I can. I dearly miss the Chrome Browser with flash. It is required for Battle Pirates Currently I am using Puffin browser, there are so many problems. I do not know if it is the lack of a "true flash" browser, Abode, Android, MOJO or Kixeye problems. But I have not given up on Battle Pirates.
On that note this is another arena called "OCEANS AT WAR" it runs on UNITY and I have not been able to run that as of yet.
I have watched your videos on Youtube and enjoyed them, I feel sad that our MOJO community is so small and silent, I am always search for people to talk to about the MOJO and the Android experience. I have the chromebook and been down the path. I wanted to move to a "box" system, either Android or Chrome... I went with Android since my phone was an Android as well.
I still have not figured how to connect usb speaker or to port the sound to the HMDI speaker in the monitor. I am still researching...
So I look forward to your reply and from @Unjustified Dev as well, Take care ~Two_Wolf aka Andy :good:
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I still have not figured how to connect usb speaker or to port the sound to the HMDI speaker in the monitor. I am still researching...
So I look forward to your reply and from @Unjustified Dev as well, Take care ~Two_Wolf aka Andy :good:
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You should be able to download the latest Chrome browser just fine if you're still running the stock rom. Also you shouldnt need to do anything to get an audio from the HDMI cord, it should just work. Are you sure you have the volume turned up on your monitors speakers?
ATM it is working - I found out you MUST not have any kind of audio jack plugged in to the MOJO. ie an extension that splits the one jack into a spk and mic jack.
~Two_Wolf aka Andy
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GWALDO,
Greeting from Missouri. I am enjoying my MOJO. I am very Interested in the CM12 Mod and the Android TV app as well. If @Unjustified Dev can or will help me apply them to my MOJO I would be very Glad to move to them. He has also mentioned REMIXOS which sound very exciting as well, and looking forward to appling it to my MOJO.
When I am not in Battle Pirates (Kixeye.com) I and constantly exploring the Android/MOJO world trying to learn all I can. I dearly miss the Chrome Browser with flash. It is required for Battle Pirates Currently I am using Puffin browser, there are so many problems. I do not know if it is the lack of a "true flash" browser, Abode, Android, MOJO or Kixeye problems. But I have not given up on Battle Pirates.
On that note this is another arena called "OCEANS AT WAR" it runs on UNITY and I have not been able to run that as of yet.
I have watched your videos on Youtube and enjoyed them, I feel sad that our MOJO community is so small and silent, I am always search for people to talk to about the MOJO and the Android experience. I have the chromebook and been down the path. I wanted to move to a "box" system, either Android or Chrome... I went with Android since my phone was an Android as well.
I still have not figured how to connect usb speaker or to port the sound to the HMDI speaker in the monitor. I am still researching...
So I look forward to your reply and from @Unjustified Dev as well, Take care ~Two_Wolf aka Andy :good:
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Hi,
Yeah, mojo users are similar to ouya user now I guess.. disappointed that their device is static (not going to change, well not officially anyway).
So you won't hear from the masses.. maybe when they have a problem with something
re speakers, I think HDMI splitters could work to split the sound to speakers?
Not sure tho.
re browser flash, this is what's recommend in their help:
http://madcatz.kayako.com/Knowledge...nded-method-for-viewing-flash-content-on-mojo
I don't know if it will work tho.
Regarding CM, it's not that hard if you have done it before.. like everything
I would suggest if you have an old android device to try changing the firmware on it before trying to do it on the mojo.. it's mostly the same process.. get the device in recovery mode and flash a new rom, reboot and it's done.
The mojo also needs a male to male usb to flash, or you can try rooting the mojo then using an app to install the new rom, some say it works, I haven't tried it.. anyway I did explain that in one of the videos lol
Yeah... been busy lately haven't made any videos.. oh and my website got stolen by my host (bigscoot).
They played a scam on me.. saying my site went over the bandwidth limit for 6 months and that I owed them hundreds of dollars.. the funny thing was I looked at their own logs and it showed nothing different for the 12months.. I had next to zero traffic anyway
Obviously, i didn't pay it and they didn't let me get my data, I did like my site :'( oh well
http://web.archive.org/web/20150415194607/http://xpcoin.com/
The cool android 'microconsole' (I think they're just called androidTV now) is shieldTV.. you could talk to those guys.. mojo and shieldtv have a few things in common, nvidia processors, android for tv devices with controllers etc..
mojo is shield tv's older brother
And ouya is an older (and cheap) sister to mojo and shield TV
Porting Remix OS ??
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Unfortunately it's not possible yet. Wait until android M is released which includes multitasking capabilities. If I find time I'll try to port RemixOS.
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Just wondered if ya have had any time to porting that REMIX OS.... I am running CM 12.1 but I have no Netflix