[Q] Please help with checking Wear compasses - Wear OS Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I am working on an app which requires the watch compass. While it seems to work as expected on Samsung Gear Live I get nothing than problems when running it on Sony SWR50 Smartwatch. Same happens with all tested apps from Play Store. There are situations where the compass works as should, but just minutes later it displays just crap or the value displayed is almost frozen. And it got even more worse from firmware version 4.4W2 to 5.0.1. No idea about behaviour of the other watch models actually available.
For getting a more clear view on usability of watch compasses in general I have written a little app named CompassTest which implements all three methods of reading the compass which I am aware of. All three results will be displayed together on one screen:
- sensor TYPE_ORIENTATION (no longer recommended for new apps)
- sensor TYPE_ROTATION_VECTOR
- sensors TYPE_ACCELEROMETER und TYPE_MAGNETIC_FIELD
If you want to support me then please install CompassTest onto your phone, start the app on your watch and check the results being displayed for plausability. All three values should be almost the same, the flicker on the 3rd value is normal as there is no dampening built in.
Please also calibrate your sensors by moving the watch several times in shape of an 8 and in all three axis.
Check the displayed results against a normal compass or the north direction if you know it from elsewhere.
Please report your results here with your watch model and short description of behaviour.
Thank you in advance,
Gerd

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[Q] Acer Orientation Sensor

My Acer works just fine for orientation sensor games, like asphalt, need for speed, etc. However, when I use things like ilighter, ibeer, etc the orientation is very off. The application is supposed to be help in portrait mode to be considered upright. However, when I want to use the program, I actually have to hold it in landscape (a 90 degree turn counter clockwise ) to actually have the program register that it is "upright". I originally thought that this was a problem with the program, but there are a number of programs that act this way. It acts this way regardless of orientation lock on/off or any settings, and only impacts on some applications.
Is this a common issue on the tablet device due to honeycomb issues, or is it something wrong with the sensor?
Anyone having similar issues?
Thanks in advance.
This is probably due to the different Android versions we use.
I have noticed the same issue on some apps that were made for my phone running Froyo (2.2). The app works fine on my phone and it reverses every sensor on my tablet so it becomes useless. The app you're trying to use is probably not made to support the tablet hence the sensor problems.
Ive been testing this out with other things. like bubble level, flight games, labrynth, etc. ever application is off. It seems to be seeing the x and y axises as being different. x=y y=x etc.
Anyone able to try downloading ilightr or ibeer or bubble or some other setup and seeing if they have the same issue or not, please?
phoenixbennu said:
It seems to be seeing the x and y axises as being different. x=y y=x etc.
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exactly the same here...tested with ibeer, bubble, turbofly 3d.
i don't know if it's the same problem with a 3.1 version. i've tested all the apps with 3.2

Omnia compass in Mango - total crap?

As many others, I have updated to official Mango yesterday. And i was really surprised by compass - its accuracy is much worse than simply guessing "where the hell could that north be" . Do you experience the same?
Majority of applications I tried required "calibration" - shaking Omnia in 8 shaped movement, but I found this absolutely useless. Even if the pointer is in north-south orientation, it usualy swaps north and south part of the pointer.
I tried:
Compass 7 from Redtalon - points north in 1 from 10 cases, usualy points towards west. Rotating phone makes this absolutely crazy
123 Compass from Agulhas Solutions - sometimes points north, but pointer is shaking as hell, most usual direction is south-west. Rotating your phone means rotating pointer anywhere. No sign of pointing towards north...
Compass from KanzSoft - this one looks to be the most promising. It shows at least basic knowledge where to point, but is oscilating in +- 10°
Maybe I just found wrong applications - do you have any suggestions?
I totally agree...
It sucks and they didn't even implement it in bing maps, that's the only thing I miss from the iPhone.
I tried the first two compass apps and the first one was stuck at north until i shook my phone, the second is not better than the first...
Agreed. My compass is utterly useless.
The compass that is included in the diagnosis app by entering *#0*# works pretty well over here. It does oscillate quite a bit though...
If I understand well the Mango SDK docs, our crap compass doesn't manage to pass the calibration test made by the devs. Only the Compass app from KanzSoft seems to use results even if the sensor is not calibrated.
I'll try to play with the sample as soon as i find so time to.
As far as i'm concerned, I didn't even know that the Omnia7 came with a compass, so it's a good news.
well, not for me - for me, it does not do anything - diag version 0103
Marvellou said:
If I understand well the Mango SDK docs, our crap compass doesn't manage to pass the calibration test made by the devs. Only the Compass app from KanzSoft seems to use results even if the sensor is not calibrated.
I'll try to play with the sample as soon as i find so time to.
As far as i'm concerned, I didn't even know that the Omnia7 came with a compass, so it's a good news.
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Hey.. Remarkable. I tried the app. I won't get passed the calibration. But in the background you see a compass and it's working quite well (best I've seen so far). So if Samsung just fixes this calibration issue, we could actually have a proper working compass on our Omnia7. They fixed a lot of issues in the Mango driver update package. I hope they're gonna fix this one too.
Heathcliff74
Optimus 7 too....
Something, somewhere is completely screwed
Through the engineering menu, compass works fine (a bit jumpy - but at least points to North!)
But...every compass app I've tried points the the wrong way, usually by 10-20 degress
Even the official Scansearch app is ropey - allthough it it does seem to get it right eventually after rotating the phone a few times
(often gets N/S flipped)
Mango RTM + latest firmware (1.0.13.10)
Confirm: mine pointing west too.
how to fix ?
Deleting and reinstalling the diagnosis app made mine run much better.
However, mine is 180 degrees inverted (i.e. North shows as South)....
illuzn said:
Deleting and reinstalling the diagnosis app made mine run much better.
However, mine is 180 degrees inverted (i.e. North shows as South)....
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Well you guys are upside down, down under! Sorry couldn't resist!
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On a serious note though - My compass is pretty rubbish too. It may point vaguely in the right direction. I wouldn't trust it though, I do a lot of hiking and fell running and i'm not about to trust this and go without a real compass!
Freypal said:
Well you guys are upside down, down under! Sorry couldn't resist!
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On a serious note though - My compass is pretty rubbish too. It may point vaguely in the right direction. I wouldn't trust it though, I do a lot of hiking and fell running and i'm not about to trust this and go without a real compass!
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That was a cheap shot haha...
It more for a stargazing app I use - Skymap... check it out its pretty good... it uses the compass and telemetry data to orientate the map on the screen so it knows where you are looking.
Try Compass VO, it's the most accurate one compare to my actual compass.
It looks like the compass on the Omnia 7 is off by 10* according to Compass VO accuracy fix.
http://www.windowsphone.com/en-us/apps/5b51fa9c-14c7-4dce-92ec-f12649076e7d
edit: so, compass is confirm to be crap. Rotation is in consistent.
I used to have heading at least in diags, but no more. I've got only those XYZ values. However it doesn't change the fact that I never got trustworthy readout from compass. Sometimes it was correct heading, but I never knew that until I compared it to real compass. And when I turned 90 deg compass heading changed only little bit, like 20 to 40 deg or sometimes it didn't changed at all.
I have to say it's quite disappointing and I'm thinking about trying luck with RMA.
On my Focus, at first all compass apps didn't worked correctly. After I read this diagnose menu, I tried to enter. The XYZ changed as I change my direction, but the compass didn't move at all.
Then I tried the compass app again (from Kantz something), It now pointing in a consistent direction and rotate (keep pointing in the north???) as I rotate my position.
Dunno what really happened here ...
Ok, this is my first post. But I hope this willl help some Omnia 7 owners.
I tried also a lot of compass Apps but without luck. There was no App which showed the correct cardinal direction. Then I read in another Forum someone had reinstalled the diagnostic tool and after that everything was fine. So I tried this also.
And...after the deinstallation of the diagnostic tool the 'My Compass' Apps works perfect. Now the app didn't ask again and again for reinitialization of the compass.
I didn't installed the samsung diagnose tool again and I didn't tried other compass apps but this was for me a first step.
Omnia 7
Mango 7.5
OS: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware: 2424.11.8.5
Hardware version: 3.15.0.4
Bootloader: 5.8.1.9
Unbranded and official Mango update process
"My compass" works well after installing the diagnostics & proving that it actually worked.
it seems to be reading backwards until you set it to "rotate face"
firmware 242.11.9.3
timbuktu said:
Ok, this is my first post. But I hope this willl help some Omnia 7 owners.
I tried also a lot of compass Apps but without luck. There was no App which showed the correct cardinal direction. Then I read in another Forum someone had reinstalled the diagnostic tool and after that everything was fine. So I tried this also.
And...after the deinstallation of the diagnostic tool the 'My Compass' Apps works perfect. Now the app didn't ask again and again for reinitialization of the compass.
I didn't installed the samsung diagnose tool again and I didn't tried other compass apps but this was for me a first step.
Omnia 7
Mango 7.5
OS: 7.10.7720.68
Firmware: 2424.11.8.5
Hardware version: 3.15.0.4
Bootloader: 5.8.1.9
Unbranded and official Mango update process
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hey! That actually works! Weird, I did reinstall the diagnosis app after the Mango update and the Samsung KH5 update. But I just tried it again. Immediately opened Diagnosis and dialled *#0*# and tapped compass. Then it worked! I tried another compass app and that one worked too. Thanks!
EDIT: Cool! My Reality Scanner in Navigon 4.0 works now too!!
Heathcliff74
Something else... Calibration!
From this article: http://blogs.microsoft.co.il/blogs/alex_golesh/archive/2011/05/24/windows-phone-mango-what-s-new-new-sensors-amp-tooling-enhancements-part-3-of-8.aspx
In addition, compass sensor enables application to subscribe to the Calibrate event, since magnetometer sensor which used to implement the compass is subject to external interference. Metal obstacles, high-voltage electrical installations and some electronic devices could interfere with Earth’s magnetic field and change the local magnetic field’s values. In case the sensor needs to be calibrated and the compass API fires the Calibrate event. When this event fired the application have to present the UI with instructions to perform sensor calibration. Sensor calibration performed by waving the device in figure 8 pattern.
The API doesn’t provide any “CalibrationComplete” notification, and it is up to developer to decide when data accuracy sufficient to the application. In general, HeadingAccuracy below 10-15 degrees should enough for most applications.
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Most compass apps have a calibration function. I couldn't get this to work. Didn't matter how I moved the phone in a "figure 8". Then I tried Youtube and found this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP3d00Hr14o. It's for an iPhone, but it works the same. The guy in the video wave just once to calibrate it. I had to do it a few times, but then the app said: Calibration complete!
I now finally have a working, calibrated compass in my Omnia 7!
That also means I can use all apps that need the Mango Motion-sensor. Omnia 7 doesn't have a gyro, but with compass and accelerometer combined you have a fully functional Motion-sensor (although slightly less accurate than newer devices that also have a gyro).
Ciao,
Heathcliff74
Compass-VO update
stan2 said:
Try Compass VO, it's the most accurate one compare to my actual compass.
It looks like the compass on the Omnia 7 is off by 10* according to Compass VO accuracy fix.
edit: so, compass is confirm to be crap. Rotation is in consistent.
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Actualy Compass VO works very well on my Omnia 7 .. once the phone digital compass is calibrated (8 shape) I have no issues with rotation, pointing magnetic and geographic north.
I like it because it allows you to set a map (topographic) in the background and use it together with compass to navigate. Not to mention multiple themes + other features ...
Really recomended.
Cheers,
Clody

No.1 g5 smartwatch

HI,GUYS.
Nowadays, Smartwatches are getting much popular than smartphones as they are offering much more than people expected. And as usual, Chinese manufacturers are the top players in that matter. One of them is No.1, a popular smartwatch manufacturing company. They have recently announced their No1 G5 smartwatch.
The main features as follow:
-CNC CRAFTS
-316L STAINLESS STEEL
-WIRE DRAWING CASE
-TPU PASTIC MATERIAL
-SAPPHIRE CRYSTAL
-HEART RATE MONITORING
-GYROSCOPE ACCELERATION SENSOR CONFIGURATION
-BLUETOOTH CONNECTIVITY
-AUTOMATIC LIGHT UP
INTELLIGENT POWER-SAVING
-REMOTE CAMERA
-PEDOMETER
-SLEEP MONITORING
-REMINDER SEDENTARY
I have this watch. Heart rate on this watch is fake. Just randomly shown the figure between 84 to 74bpm even though you are on running.... ( I check with my other heart rate). After 10 day of using the battery only last for 4 hours despite of I turn off Bluetooth and not connected to my phone.
Hello, I have also purchased this watch and it was performing very well. However after installing a .vxp file, the watch seems to be bricked. There is only black screen without getting access to Settings or other menu.
Does anyone know how to Factory Reset or Enter Safe Mode for this watch model. I have contacted No.1 phones facebook page, however did not get any response yet.
whenthundercomes said:
Hello, I have also purchased this watch and it was performing very well. However after installing a .vxp file, the watch seems to be bricked. There is only black screen without getting access to Settings or other menu.
Does anyone know how to Factory Reset or Enter Safe Mode for this watch model. I have contacted No.1 phones facebook page, however did not get any response yet.
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If you can do nothing on it,try a wired flash.
Click this linkhttp://en.001phone.cn/download-52.html
It is already on this forum,you can search other threads to know more about G5.
hi, i have a problem with my G5
The gyro was not working more, so after several firmware flash, I deleted from flash software calibration files and now does not work anymore even the heart rate sensor
believing that recreated at startup, I wish qualcuni helps me making a backup of the Rom so that I can restore it on my own and get back the calibration file, please help me guys, and very little work, but useful for me, thank you very much
News??
Sorry, I do have a G5, but I don't know how to make a ROM. You may post in the correct thread other users may help you.

Location problem with AEX 5.2 on Harpia

Hello folks,
I´ve got a problem with the above rom installed on my moto g play.
The location doesn´t work properly.
For example google maps takes ages to update the current location, I also have gps issue with a running app,
It doesn´t calculate the distance. the location is set to hi accuracy, the location is app permission is set ok, also there is no battery saving option asosciated with the apps.
Can you help please? TIA
crazypixel said:
Hello folks,
I´ve got a problem with the above rom installed on my moto g play.
The location doesn´t work properly.
For example google maps takes ages to update the current location, I also have gps issue with a running app,
It doesn´t calculate the distance. the location is set to hi accuracy, the location is app permission is set ok, also there is no battery saving option asosciated with the apps.
Can you help please? TIA
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As you are probably aware all Harpia devices have a hardware flaw (most likely antenna configuration and/or receiver sensitivity) that significantly degrades GPS performance. Response varies by ROM but never rises above mediocre. While I can't speak specifically to AEX on this device the behavior you report mirrors my experience after upgrading to stock Nougat 7.1 on two devices. Neither gets a fix unless situated in ideal conditions with an unobstructed view of the heavens. Step a few feet into the garage and and the shaky fix is lost within seconds. Ultimately we replaced both devices with E4s which perform fine. Sorry for the not-so-optimistic (but realistic) response.
Further reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4-play/help/gps-fix-t3535129
Davey126 said:
As you are probably aware all Harpia devices have a hardware flaw (most likely antenna configuration and/or receiver sensitivity) that significantly degrades GPS performance. Response varies by ROM but never rises above mediocre. While I can't speak specifically to AEX on this device the behavior you report mirrors my experience after upgrading to stock Nougat 7.1 on two devices. Neither gets a fix unless situated in ideal conditions with an unobstructed view of the heavens. Step a few feet into the garage and and the shaky fix is lost within seconds. Ultimately we replaced both devices with E4s which perform fine. Sorry for the not-so-optimistic (but realistic) response.
Further reference: https://forum.xda-developers.com/g4-play/help/gps-fix-t3535129
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Thanks Davey, yes I´ve read the GPS flaw, I´m try lineage os 8 to see if improves, was working kinda fine on stock OS
Appreciated.

Kospet Prime

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Available @ Gearbest for $149.99
So I saw the watch and was intrigued. I'm not expecting greatness, just more so something fun to play with. Has anyone else played with the Kospet Hope? or Optimus Prime? Anyone going to buy the Prime?
Specs:
Processor: MTK6739 1.25GHZ (Quad Core)
Operating System: Android 7.1.1
Display: 1.6" inch IPS LCD 400x400
Memory::32 GB ROM + 3 GB RAM
Battery: 1260 Lithium Polymer Battery
Sensors: Heart Rate Monitor, Pedometer, GPS
Camera(s): 5.0MP (2.0MP software update) Side:8.0MP (5MP software update)
BODY RESISTANCE: IP67 Water Proof
CONNECTIVITY
SIM Slot: Yes Nano SIM GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz WCDMA 900/2100MHz
WIFI: Yes WIFI 802.11b/g/n
NFC: none
Bluetooth: Bluetooth version: V4.0
USB: none
BODY
Size: 28.00 x 5.08 x 1.85 cm
Weight: 0.0830 kg
Casing: Ceramic
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UPDATES:
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So I've had a couple days to play with it. Here are my thoughts.
1: Mine came with what appears to be a bubble in the glass layers, and some chips in the bezel around the glass.
2: The watch is much lighter than I thought it would be for being so large.
3: Text can be small, but is still quite readable.
4: Things are resized for this watch's screen resolution. (It's Android OS, not Wear OS) When installing an application, some of the options (accept, install, yes, no), barely show up on the screen.
5: Build quality seems on par with the price. It's not "cheap" feeling, but also not "quality."
6: The camera quality is on par with what you'd expect for a camera put into a watch. It records as well as takes still pictures.
7: It's definitely snappier than my TicWatch Pro LTE for menu and most navigation, however there are some times when it doesn't shine as well (like when just trying to log in to my gmail account).
8: Battery life right now with installing apps, usage, screen going on and off, wifi on, bluetooth on, no sim, gps off, I'm at 93% (6 hours of I'd say heavy use with installing apps and setup).
9: The screen is VERY bright, but has the ability to dim it like a phone.
10: There are 11 watch faces built in. Most of the options are quite ugly but also contain some "transformer " looking options (I guess this goes with the "Prime" aspect of it.
11: You can set it to either metric or imperial measurements for your fitness tracking
12: The app that you can download for it is called WiiWatch (No relation to Nintendo I'm sure). It really only just shows your fitness tracking data and has a few settings.
The packaging is interesting, every box has Kospet on it. It comes with a screw driver, as well as additional screw(s), a screen protector, a charger + usb cable. I'd like to add that the usb cable plugging into the charger does not go in all the way, as well as the watch resting on it doesn't always make the best connection.
Current Photos: https://photos.app.goo.gl/NUMauknhWG6d5m8w5
I've just bought it...
When I get it I can leave some insights if you want.
It's a great watch build quality super, the only thing it's font size on notification and the browser, install setting search and change the font size to large, leave the display size as it's. Good looking watch
duanim said:
It's a great watch build quality super, the only thing it's font size on notification and the browser, install setting search and change the font size to large, leave the display size as it's. Good looking watch
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Have you received it already? Mine says it was shipped today, so it will still take a few weeks I guess.
Is it well synchronized with your phone? Do you receive all the notifications from Messenger and Whatsapp without delays?
You have to share you internet connection in order to have those right? You share it from bluetooth?
Also, how's it in terms of battery life?
Thanks in advance!
I have received it. I didn't wear it for the weekend, and when I came back (after ~50h), it still had 50% of battery left. It gets the notifications via Bluetooth, dismissing them dismisses them only from the watch. I don't know if they are actionable. Then it disconnected and I stopped getting them, but oh well, at least it shows the time.
How do I install Wear OS on this thing? The original software is... ugh. On the watch you have just Android 7, but the phone app is typical Chinese sh*t with no settings and almost no functionality (just to disable some apps form sending notifications, view fitness data, battery level and download watchfaces with no search/sort options ). Doesn't let you configure anything on the watch remotely (and I don't like watch touchscreens that much...)
When I won the battle of enabling google assistant on the watch, and asked it to turn on the lights, it... googled the phrase. Even though it's the same account as I use everywhere else.
DrG0nz0 said:
Have you received it already? Mine says it was shipped today, so it will still take a few weeks I guess.
Is it well synchronized with your phone? Do you receive all the notifications from Messenger and Whatsapp without delays?
You have to share you internet connection in order to have those right? You share it from bluetooth?
Also, how's it in terms of battery life?
Thanks in advance!
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i did return mine because it have some dust debris between the display and i don't like Gear..****. So they don't have the watch anymore in stock, that is what they
said and they will give me the money back loosing expending $10 more in the transaction . so i did decide to buy the Lemfo Lem10 3/32Gb for $125 .
The Prime its pretty build quality and good looking,for me the downside was the resolution 400x400 for 1.6" inches display still the font size too small and for outdoors purpose the IPS display wasn't really good like the Zeblaze Thor Pro 3g Android 5.1, year old device.
Don't install or use the Wiiwatch companion app, instead use Watchdroid app its much better, yes you will get all the notification with more features and everything with Bluetooth connection, don't need for internet sharing. Go to Discouse Fullandroid watch.com and you will find all kinds of information.
duanim said:
i did return mine because it have some dust debris between the display and i don't like Gear..****. So they don't have the watch anymore in stock, that is what they
said and they will give me the money back loosing expending $10 more in the transaction . so i did decide to buy the Lemfo Lem10 3/32Gb for $125 .
The Prime its pretty build quality and good looking,for me the downside was the resolution 400x400 for 1.6" inches display still the font size too small and for outdoors purpose the IPS display wasn't really good like the Zeblaze Thor Pro 3g Android 5.1, year old device.
Don't install or use the Wiiwatch companion app, instead use Watchdroid app its much better, yes you will get all the notification with more features and everything with Bluetooth connection, don't need for internet sharing. Go to Discouse Fullandroid watch.com and you will find all kinds of information.
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Thanks so much for the tips man!!
With all syncronized did you get an estimative on the battery before sending it back?
DrG0nz0 said:
Thanks so much for the tips man!!
With all syncronized did you get an estimative on the battery before sending it back?
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no much time to play ,i did return it in 3 days after
I'll be making updates to the original post as I dig in some more.
Just came back from a hol in the states and met this watch on my desk. Nice build quality and as previously mentioned not as light as the size would suggest. Just installing apps on it now. Will get back on how it's going.. I have been using it pretty hevily and i have already drained 60% of power after 5 hours.. Not sure if this is acceptable but i can't keeep my hands off the thing so the display has been on for a fair while each time. Incidently, the battery came 100% charged.
shepscrook said:
I'll be making updates to the original post as I dig in some more.
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any new reports from the last days?
A friend of mine already got it in England and he says that if you are using the WatchDroid app also the battery drains a lot!
Also, he says that it keeps disconecting, he needs to open the app on the watch to get all the notifications. Do you relate to any of this?
DrG0nz0 said:
any new reports from the last days?
A friend of mine already got it in England and he says that if you are using the WatchDroid app also the battery drains a lot!
Also, he says that it keeps disconecting, he needs to open the app on the watch to get all the notifications. Do you relate to any of this?
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Not entirely sure this is down to WatchDroid though I have uninstalled it now myself. My battery drain was mainly down to the Wifi adapter being enabled. this has definately been an issue with previous versions of the Kospet watch range and I suspect this may not have changed here. I was down to 50% battery within half a day with Wifi enabled.. Having disasbled it i am easily getting the best part of 2 plus days out of it with moderate use and disabling Wifi when not using it.
kingtendo said:
Not entirely sure this is down to WatchDroid though I have uninstalled it now myself. My battery drain was mainly down to the Wifi adapter being enabled. this has definately been an issue with previous versions of the Kospet watch range and I suspect this may not have changed here. I was down to 50% battery within half a day with Wifi enabled.. Having disasbled it i am easily getting the best part of 2 plus days out of it with moderate use and disabling Wifi when not using it.
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We found a solution in this forum:
https://discourse.fullandroidwatch.com/t/the-kospet-prime-official-post/50234/200
Apparently he doesn't "like" to have the WiiWatch and watchdroid on at the same time....once he deactivated all the WiiWatch services it's all good...
I'm still waiting to receive mine, it's been on Amsterdam wearhouse for a couple of days, smoking one out I guess...
Short review after a few days of use - Kospet PRIME
I am advanced user of the smartwatches since the first generation of Galaxy GEAR watch from SAMSUNG (SM-V700) with custom rom (full android)
It would be great to have similar watch with current up-to-date hardware - main request is to keep the camera placement facing outwards (on the body of the watch, not on the belt) to ensure that watch is water tight to 50 meters (at least to allow swimming/snorkeling with it – see Sunto watches for good water tight specs)
For Kospet Prime – Watch is nice but I have following (software) problems:
1. cradle connection sound would be nice to have – for now it is not sure that it is really well connected and charging
2. charging icon is displayed but too short time – please display it for longer or for whole time when watch is connected to the cradle
3. lack of ability to customize buttons (especially down button for camera operation for example
4. lack of configurable default applications screen – by sweeping right – after the list (or “apple style” apps icons) there should be possible to select 6-9 application shortcuts in the screen
5. lack of quick dial contact list (I need to be able to dial quickly to 6 or 9 contacts – activate call on the main phone when watch is in airplane mode, and activate call on the watch with SIM active
6. switching from round to square screen make the menu list invisible (ok after restart)
7. swipe up shall be customizable – instead of default sport application it should be configurable – for example to launch camera
8. temperature on the default watch screen is updated, however with delay (only when weather check is done)
9. video on the main camera is recorded VERTICALLY ???!!! WHY not horizontally ???
10. COMMUNICATION WITH PHONE when with watch in the “airplane mode” but with BT/wifi on - to see incoming calls notifications – who is calling. When (Connected normal big Android phone) phone is ringing – this shall be improved – please start to work with company Lumatic Software - and integrate/optimize well their application “Watch Droid” - in general please be more aware of the real use of the watch – in most cases watch is used WITH close integration with large phone (like Samsung NOTE10+) and all messages from phone shall be displayed on the watch, it should be possible to start phone calls from watch but ON THE PHONE with BT headset connected, so for example when You are riding the bike, there is no need to take big phone out from the pocket- You start the phone call from the watch, and talk over BT headset. Phone functionality in the watch itself is used only from time to time – for example if somebody goes to run or goes to the beach (that is why 5atm water tightness is needed) – just to be able to make quick phone call from the watch, without taking “big” phone on the run. In general – please copy the behavior (and stability ) of the Samsung watches, just keep the camera ..
11. Please allow to disable animation for time display – If somebody want to have quick look – it takes time the watch “stabilize” and shows real time
12. Screen on rising – works with delay – it is not stable for all the time
13. Default setup is missing calculator application.
14. temperature on the default watch screen is updated, however with delay (only when weather check is done)
15. contacts are displayed by first name instead of last name – I did not find the way to switch this setting for last name first
16. For desktop adaptation and functionality – please try to allow configuration as in NOVA LAUNCHER – to be able to set icons as needed, enable swipe actions, etc.
Hardware upgrade requests for “ideal watch”:
- 5 atm water tight – please make such watch really water tight to allow to swim/dive with it
- Cameras shall be placed at 12 hour Instead of 3 and face outwards (same as on SM-V700 Samsung watch) with second camera front facing.
- Camera shall record video in horizontal mode PLEASE!!!!
- Camera quality – please use 5MP camera sensor with good low light quality – there is no need for too many megapixels, but the camera shall offer good quality
- Two more customizable buttons on the left of the watch to launch custom applications quickly
- Wireless charging
- Reliable pulse/ecg measurement
lukasz said:
I am advanced user of the smartwatches since the first generation of Galaxy GEAR watch from SAMSUNG (SM-V700) with custom rom (full android)
It would be great to have similar watch with current up-to-date hardware - main request is to keep the camera placement facing outwards (on the body of the watch, not on the belt) to ensure that watch is water tight to 50 meters (at least to allow swimming/snorkeling with it – see Sunto watches for good water tight specs)
For Kospet Prime – Watch is nice but I have following (software) problems:
1. cradle connection sound would be nice to have – for now it is not sure that it is really well connected and charging
2. charging icon is displayed but too short time – please display it for longer or for whole time when watch is connected to the cradle
3. lack of ability to customize buttons (especially down button for camera operation for example
4. lack of configurable default applications screen – by sweeping right – after the list (or “apple style” apps icons) there should be possible to select 6-9 application shortcuts in the screen
5. lack of quick dial contact list (I need to be able to dial quickly to 6 or 9 contacts – activate call on the main phone when watch is in airplane mode, and activate call on the watch with SIM active
6. switching from round to square screen make the menu list invisible (ok after restart)
7. swipe up shall be customizable – instead of default sport application it should be configurable – for example to launch camera
8. temperature on the default watch screen is updated, however with delay (only when weather check is done)
9. video on the main camera is recorded VERTICALLY ???!!! WHY not horizontally ???
10. COMMUNICATION WITH PHONE when with watch in the “airplane mode” but with BT/wifi on - to see incoming calls notifications – who is calling. When (Connected normal big Android phone) phone is ringing – this shall be improved – please start to work with company Lumatic Software - and integrate/optimize well their application “Watch Droid” - in general please be more aware of the real use of the watch – in most cases watch is used WITH close integration with large phone (like Samsung NOTE10+) and all messages from phone shall be displayed on the watch, it should be possible to start phone calls from watch but ON THE PHONE with BT headset connected, so for example when You are riding the bike, there is no need to take big phone out from the pocket- You start the phone call from the watch, and talk over BT headset. Phone functionality in the watch itself is used only from time to time – for example if somebody goes to run or goes to the beach (that is why 5atm water tightness is needed) – just to be able to make quick phone call from the watch, without taking “big” phone on the run. In general – please copy the behavior (and stability ) of the Samsung watches, just keep the camera ..
11. Please allow to disable animation for time display – If somebody want to have quick look – it takes time the watch “stabilize” and shows real time
12. Screen on rising – works with delay – it is not stable for all the time
13. Default setup is missing calculator application.
14. temperature on the default watch screen is updated, however with delay (only when weather check is done)
15. contacts are displayed by first name instead of last name – I did not find the way to switch this setting for last name first
16. For desktop adaptation and functionality – please try to allow configuration as in NOVA LAUNCHER – to be able to set icons as needed, enable swipe actions, etc.
Hardware upgrade requests for “ideal watch”:
- 5 atm water tight – please make such watch really water tight to allow to swim/dive with it
- Cameras shall be placed at 12 hour Instead of 3 and face outwards (same as on SM-V700 Samsung watch) with second camera front facing.
- Camera shall record video in horizontal mode PLEASE!!!!
- Camera quality – please use 5MP camera sensor with good low light quality – there is no need for too many megapixels, but the camera shall offer good quality
- Two more customizable buttons on the left of the watch to launch custom applications quickly
- Wireless charging
- Reliable pulse/ecg measurement
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Thanks for the updates!!
From what I could gather, most of your problems can be solved if you install WatchDroid instead of WiiWatch and also put on a launcher (can't remember the name now). Don't forget that this is a fully-fledged android so we can tweak around all we want...
DrG0nz0 said:
Thanks for the updates!!
From what I could gather, most of your problems can be solved if you install WatchDroid instead of WiiWatch and also put on a launcher (can't remember the name now). Don't forget that this is a fully-fledged android so we can tweak around all we want...
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its going to be two years until we get something like that, i wish and we hope
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duanim said:
its going to be two years until we get something like that, i wish and we hope
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I am already waiting 5 years since SM-V700 Galaxy gear watch... but I do not think that it will take that long right now - in fact it is jut the redesign of the watch case to move the camera to the top of the watch, and I hope that this new chassis will also be redesigned to feature 5atm water tightness. The rest of the watch is quite good - battery capacity in PRIME is 4 times!!! the capacity of SM-V700 (1260 vs 315 mAh) I have made custom setup for the watch and thanks to Watch Droid application in the v9.1.19.9 version (previous than the version available now in Playstore) it is possible to integrate watch with the android phone quite well.
I will try to publish YT video about it.
Are there any other forums I can check out for help with this watch? Anyone got a recommendation of companion app other than Wii Watch (utter toilet) or Watch Droid (flaky at best)
kingtendo said:
Are there any other forums I can check out for help with this watch? Anyone got a recommendation of companion app other than Wii Watch (utter toilet) or Watch Droid (flaky at best)
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full android smartwatch
duanim said:
full android smartwatch
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Please have a look what options KOSPET PRIME brings us after advanced setup - see my video at https://youtu.be/fdvKLo_uAhs

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