New Note Pro anticipated - Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General

Went down to a local Samsung official store today.
Saw only wifi model available. Asked the sales about LTE model.
Sales replied LTE model had sold out and would not be restocked.
Noted $100 off offering for the wifi model (presumably to clear stock out)
Conclusion: the tablet will either be discontinued or a new model is coming. :victory:
Let's wait for CES 2015.

Samsung has the annoying tendency, just like Asus, to temporarily cease sales of their high-priced products during the classic discount periods like Christmas.
The Note 4 is also suddenly not in stock. Ditto on the Note 2014, Tab S and the TabPro.
All are still available for order on the Samsung webshop, for full price. With a 'discount' that is still more expensive than the shops. That in itself says enough.
Another perfect example of this principle is how I spend 3 days travelling half the country to get my hands on a copy of Dragon Age Inquisition. Not a single shop had it in stock or available on order. The game's only been out 3 weeks, and it's a #1 bestseller. What, suddenly it's 'out of stock, not available for restock' everywhere? (why is it still not on Steam? Steam sale, that's why.)
Origin store had it for 20 quid more than the physical copy, and I wanted it in the 25% discount that the shops were offering. Funny how none of them could stock it.
Because of course everyone believes that it is purely a coincidence and has nothing to do with the companies not wanting to loose profits on the christmas sale price cuts... Yes, companies believe we're that dumb. I've worked in retail, this is real. It happens, everywhere.
I wouldn't take it too seriously. They always do these things this time of year.
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Though such marketing tactics exist (I had an unpleasant experience buying my note 2 due to this),
there are other factors that stop me from buying one now and wait for CES 2015.
1. Samsung Store actually delisted the LTE model. The tag besides the demo unit no longer list P905.
2. Salesperson told me it would not be restocked (as in never will). Not temporary.
3. Abnormal discount.
Little background story here, I live in Hong Kong where Christmas Sales usually offer none ~ 20% discounts.
The samsung store I visited only offer discount on selected product if pay by credit card monthly instalment.
However, the discount on P900 is a 129USD special cash discount offered by staff (not printed on any sign).
4. Other small electronics stores (not officially authorised) are suddenly getting large bulk of stock and dropping prices like crazy.
This is the biggest red flag IMO.
Again, this needs a little bit explaining.
Big stores and carrier don't sell below the official price here. (Agreement with manufacturer and get a better profit margin)
This often create unsold stock for them before a product's EOL.
Small shops partner with carriers and big stores to create a channel for moving old inventory.
They get their stock from big stores and sell it for a much lower price. In this case <500USD (still dropping).
The catch is, these units, although legitimate, are not eligible for warranty from Samsung because they are not bought from authorised resellers.
If it turns out they are not refreshing the model, I'll just buy a P905 from small shops

In Italy Note Pro Lte is still present on samsung's site and available for e-selling.

Best Buy in US has a sale on LTE model, 699.00 (save 150.00)
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...lack/7276013.p?id=1219262036059&skuId=7276013
Not really a close out price IMO

isheepnano said:
Went down to a local Samsung official store today.
Saw only wifi model available. Asked the sales about LTE model.
Sales replied LTE model had sold out and would not be restocked.
Noted $100 off offering for the wifi model (presumably to clear stock out)
Conclusion: the tablet will either be discontinued or a new model is coming. :victory:
Let's wait for CES 2015.
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New Egg was selling NEW SM-P9000ZKVXAR 32GB for 449.99

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Walmart to sell Nexus One?

I can't really say how i feel about this if it's true.. especially if the rumored pricing is true..
http://www.androidcentral.com/wal-mart-sell-nexus-one-soon
what was the rumored price?
$99 is the rumored price.. not sure where that number came from though.
And no T-mobile on that list of carriers?
I know for sure Walmart ONLY sells locked and subsidized devices, so this will be bundled with T-mobile or - most likely - Verizon. If Google continues its current model, you will probably just sign up with service and need to go online to order the phone. They may have a display model, but I bet they will not actual "sell" the device. Right now their mobile center is more like those kiosk booths at the mall.
UmbraeSoulsbane said:
I know for sure Walmart ONLY sells locked and subsidized devices, so this will be bundled with T-mobile or - most likely - Verizon.
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in stores walmart only sells locked phones but on their website they have sold unlocked phones in the past and i believe they still do, though i have not checked since the g1 came out.
My wife washed her phone with her pants over the holiday, and I went all over to find a replacement. Not wanting to extend my contract (since I want to get rid of it after its over), I had no choice but to look for an unlock or unsubsidized phone. At least during the holidays in store and online I could find no option with out service and seemed to list the same stock.
Of course, retailers can pull those things during the heavy shopping seasons too.
I sort of doubt Google would change their strategy. If T-mobile can't get Nexus Ones; not sure why Wal-mart. I know Wal-mart is a major chain, but normally doing business with Wal-mart is a major pain.
I hope this is a load of Bravo Sierra!
I just purchased my N1 last nite...
UmbraeSoulsbane said:
My wife washed her phone with her pants over the holiday, and I went all over to find a replacement. Not wanting to extend my contract (since I want to get rid of it after its over), I had no choice but to look for an unlock or unsubsidized phone. At least during the holidays in store and online I could find no option with out service and seemed to list the same stock.
Of course, retailers can pull those things during the heavy shopping seasons too.
I sort of doubt Google would change their strategy. If T-mobile can't get Nexus Ones; not sure why Wal-mart. I know Wal-mart is a major chain, but normally doing business with Wal-mart is a major pain.
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If you have been on your service for a while then the telco will give you the unlock codes, I unlocked several blackberries with t-mo customer service and my girl unlocked her storm through verizon.
I think you just have to be a customer for more that 6 months or something. Just tell them your going out of country.
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I just noticed in the actual ad a typo FAIL that says:
Expandable microSD (up to 32MB)
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It now "appears" that the Walmart Nexus add was a mistake http://www.businessinsider.com/walmart-says-it-has-no-plans-to-carry-the-nexus-one-2010-1
From Mashable.com
Update: Walmart says the phone erroneously appeared on the site by mistake. Their statement: “Due to a technical error, this item erroneously was displayed on our site. We’re working with our partner Let’s Talk to have it removed as quickly as possible. We have no plans to carry Nexus One in Walmart stores or online at Walmart.com at this time.”
No comment I guess?
EDIT: Sorry, I just noticed this has been posted.
If they claim they aren't selling it in stores or through that site... then wtf is it even doing on that "erroneous" page? Seems like a very difficult error to make.
I knew it wasnt fesible, Att, Sprint and Verizon without Tmobile? Hard to believe.
Ok, end of story.

New info on release date for US version

Sprint
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...print-for-399/comment-page-2/#comment-1040561
T-Mobile
http://www.engadget.com/2010/10/09/samsung-galaxy-tab-stars-in-leaked-slide-t-mobile-version-to-co/
Getting close . I'm still banging my head to find out when my network is going to have them ready for order.
I'd like to take this occasion to point out that $599 price point. That would be... wait for it *drum roll* ...
Cheaper than the equivalent (16GB +3G) iPad.
That would mean that the Wifi version should cost less than a stock galaxy.
That would mean that the Tab is priced even more competitively than I've been preaching about for a month *looks smug*
I'd like to point out the contract-price.. $399 with 24 month contract... IF that would be just simply converted to euros (about 290€) I'd buy TWO
Unfortunately, knowing where I live, it's probably close to 599€ with 24 month contract... (I'll still buy on )
In all honesty, assuming the US hardware is identical and the price here in the UK is higher, I might even import me a US one and flash it onto the euro ROM.
Only reason I've been thinking of buying on contract was because I figured I might need to cover the costs. But £375 for an unlocked GSM version I can happily do upfront, even with a bit extra in tax and shipping, particularly if british retailers stick with the £599 price point (which I've always thought was crazy, but they might).
Then I can just swap my SIM from my galaxy into it.
Either way, thats a damn fine price.
Edit- Oh and I'm with you on buying two at that price. Could sell one still boxed and make a tidy profit, or an awesome christmas gift for my fiancee.
i find your maths interesting.
also a leaked tmobile slide is stating $649.99, which is more than the larger screened ipad with 3g.
i dont look smug though as i never wanted this thing to cost more than the Apple product. i think if you really want to get a Tab, then i would seriously wait until after christmas, as there is no way its going to sell well at this price so its got to come down.
Samsung are kidding themselves if they think they have the same blind support that Apple enjoy.
p.s. i dont know how it works in the US, but the tmobile slide also states the $649.99 as 'dealer price'. dealer price in the UK would be the price the reseller pays the manufacturer, before they add on their margin, its not the price to the end consumer. it may work different in the US though
johnnewhouse said:
i find your maths interesting.
also a leaked tmobile slide is stating $649.99, which is more than the larger screened ipad with 3g.
i dont look smug though as i never wanted this thing to cost more than the Apple product. i think if you really want to get a Tab, then i would seriously wait until after christmas, as there is no way its going to sell well at this price so its got to come down.
Samsung are kidding themselves if they think they have the same blind support that Apple enjoy.
p.s. i dont know how it works in the US, but the tmobile slide also states the $649.99 as 'dealer price'. dealer price in the UK would be the price the reseller pays the manufacturer, before they add on their margin, its not the price to the end consumer. it may work different in the US though
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My math was done from the BGR report (the t-mo slide was edited in later) where it says $599 is the full retail price. I ran $599 through XE.com and got £375. Don't know what else I can say... Full retail price = the price.
Also, Engadget is heavily pro apple. They never criticize their pricing and always say iProducts are 'better', even getting specs wrong on the competitors and not changing opinions when shown they're wrong.

Best price for note 10.1?

After searching around for the best deals online and in stores, i've been able to find the Note 10.1 16GB for £318 on amazon. I know this is a fairly good price compared to most other places, but has anyone for anywhere to get one cheaper, or had any success negotiating with staff to get freebies or money off? I was looking at Nexus 10 but i was put off because I think ill need an SD card for extra memory at some point soon, and the colours are meant to be less deep and less vibrant.
If anyone can offer some input on prices or any reason not to get the Note 10.1 then please help me out before i spend my xmas money.
English Pounds prices and possible links to websites if you great guys can ;D Thanks
danielk0302 said:
After searching around for the best deals online and in stores, i've been able to find the Note 10.1 16GB for £318 on amazon. I know this is a fairly good price compared to most other places, but has anyone for anywhere to get one cheaper, or had any success negotiating with staff to get freebies or money off? I was looking at Nexus 10 but i was put off because I think ill need an SD card for extra memory at some point soon, and the colours are meant to be less deep and less vibrant.
If anyone can offer some input on prices or any reason not to get the Note 10.1 then please help me out before i spend my xmas money.
English Pounds prices and possible links to websites if you great guys can ;D Thanks
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Tesco are also selling them for £318 at the moment, you can walk in store and pick one up.
http://www.samsung.com/uk/tab2cashback/
If you buy before newyear... £50 cashback makes it £268
I think samsung are planning to release a new tablet, there seems to be alot of offers on the tab 2 10 inch and 7 inch and the Note 10.1 on the offical samsung website, like trade your old phone in and get moeny off. I could trade in my old Xperia X10 and get £100 off a Note 10.1 for it which is alot in relation the the device. I didnt know there was a £50 cash back offer on, im real tempted by that so thankyou. I have a big tescos in my town so i might go there to see if they have any but i doubt they will :S If they do I will buy one soon I think ;D
EDIT: If i bought one now, i would have to wait 15 days to claim and by that time the promotion would have run out I think at least
I have just done my claim. If you look carefully at the terms, you need to purchase by end of 31st Dec and you can claim up until Feb 2013.
danielk0302 said:
I think samsung are planning to release a new tablet, there seems to be alot of offers on the tab 2 10 inch and 7 inch and the Note 10.1 on the offical samsung website, like trade your old phone in and get moeny off. I could trade in my old Xperia X10 and get £100 off a Note 10.1 for it which is alot in relation the the device. I didnt know there was a £50 cash back offer on, im real tempted by that so thankyou. I have a big tescos in my town so i might go there to see if they have any but i doubt they will :S If they do I will buy one soon I think ;D
EDIT: If i bought one now, i would have to wait 15 days to claim and by that time the promotion would have run out I think at least
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Go for it! I You can still buy until the end of the year to get cash back. I presume they have the 2 week waiting period in case you return your device to the rteiler. (yeah like that's gonna happen ) I have mine since Saturday and I love it.
You can also get 5% cash back if you buy through Topcashback. I saw that too late.
dhd1802 said:
http://www.samsung.com/uk/tab2cashback/
If you buy before newyear... £50 cashback makes it £268
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The cash-back has been pulled by Samsung since two weeks ago .
jje
They accepted my submission this morning.
Pulled as in stopped two weeks ago no point of sale material on display and no longer on the promotions page .
Pre purchases should be accepted so if you bought before it was stopped you qualify .
The doubt will be for anyone that purchased after the promotion was closed .
Will the cash back run for purchases after the promotion was closed is unknown .
Samsung may just have stopped advertising the fact and let the promotion continue until 31-12-12 or stopped it as per the terms and conditions .
I actually have a letter from Samsung handed to me by a Samsung rep when i queried last week .
Cashback promotion ceased . But he kept saying you should be ok with your claim ??
Multiple posts on the web the last two weeks regarding this .
Confusing to say the least and i would say anyone buying now may get cashback but may not .
jje
JJEgan said:
Pulled as in stopped two weeks ago no point of sale material on display and no longer on the promotions page .
Pre purchases should be accepted so if you bought before it was stopped you qualify .
The doubt will be for anyone that purchased after the promotion was closed .
Will the cash back run for purchases after the promotion was closed is unknown .
Samsung may just have stopped advertising the fact and let the promotion continue until 31-12-12 or stopped it as per the terms and conditions .
I actually have a letter from Samsung handed to me by a Samsung rep when i queried last week .
Cashback promotion ceased . But he kept saying you should be ok with your claim ??
Multiple posts on the web the last two weeks regarding this .
Confusing to say the least and i would say anyone buying now may get cashback but may not .
jje
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I tried to claim this morning (my 15 days aren't up yet, but I wanted to have a go anyway) and it just said I'm too early claim. Not that I'm not qualified. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Amazon and the other online retailers no longer have any indication but as the invoice date needs to be before 31st Dec, it is likely they have stopped advertising as they would not be able to meet that any more.
On Samsung claim site, dates / times are still clearly stated and claim indicated to be valid if invoice date is 31st Dec or earlier. Things always seem to get muddy at the enpoint of one of these campaigns (I have done two successful cashbacks with HP and seen similar confusion).
My invoice date was 11th Dec and so couldn't claim before 26th anyway. I am hopeful, but I would be happy with my Note 10.1 regardless.
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I am hopeful, but I would be happy with my Note 10.1 regardless.
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Exactly. I bought the Note without realising there was cashback.
I am in the same boat waiting for Jan 2 to claim .
Hopeful for all they have just stopped advertising the promotion due to the large volume of sales .
jje
JJEgan said:
I am in the same boat waiting for Jan 2 to claim .
Hopeful for all they have just stopped advertising the promotion due to the large volume of sales .
jje
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if you buy before midnight monday 31st.... and make your claim before the 28th of february. kerching £50 cashback.
i bought a second note 10.1 on the 5th december so i'm on day 23 of my 60 day window. but i'm going to wait until the new year before claiming.
Sasmsung terms and conditions said:
(1)Qualifying Tablet purchases must be made from 00.01 on the 24th October 2012 to 23.59 on the 31st of December 2012 (inclusive). The claim window will close at 23.59 on the 28th of February 2013, all claims received after this date will be marked invalid.
(2)Claims must be made within 15 - 60 days from the date of purchase, for the avoidance of doubt the date of purchase on the invoice or receipt counts as day 1. Claims received outside this period will be marked as invalid and will not be accepted.
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Thanks everyone, im going for a short holiday so i might end up buying the Note 10.1 soon If not I'll get one after I'm back and miss out on the £50 I guess
Got mine from PC WorId who price-matched Tesco at £318
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John Lewis have them now £318.00 with 2 year warranty, Just ordered it.
Regarding cash back offer, terms and conditions state
"Qualifying Tablet purchases must be made from 00.01 on the 24th October 2012 to 23.59 on the 31st of December 2012 (inclusive). The claim window will close at 23.59 on the 28th of February 2013, all claims received after this date will be marked invalid."
So no issues on claim back if you buy before 23.59 31st December.
The standard Samsung warranty is two years as well.
Adding this code, TD-PT4M, at checkout with Tesco gets you another 3000 points, equivalent to another £30 off.
I got mine for £270 on ebay it was a shop returned unit it had been opened and returned so basically brand new. The ebayer dealt in shop returns and had 4 for sale they had 1000s of feedback had fully bench tested the items and offered a full money back guarentee. Ive had it for a couple of weeks now and its perfect. Funny enough i bought a nexus 7 for my girlfriend brand new from the carphone warehouse and it had a duff speaker.
Be very careful shopping on ebay make sure the seller has lots of positive feedback and offers a refund and you cant really go wrong. Ebay customer support are also very good if any problems arise they have refunded me out of there own pocket in the past for items not being sent by the seller.
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So, from Tesco, until Monday, you can get a 16Mb WiFi Only Note 10.1 for £238 £318-£30-£50 (why buy on e-bay?)
Could anyone in the UK then explain to me why the cheapest that I can find a wiFi + 3g model is £467 (on Amazon) and Tesco list this for £498!!!!! More than twice the price of the WiFi only - effectively just for a SIM card slot! Would expect a differential of less than £50.
I live in South Africa but travel frequently to the UK where I buy most of my tech hardware - because it is cheaper. The WiFi only Note 10.1 is much more expensive here. However I was able to buy a WiFi plus 3g Note 10.1 here for just over £450 equivalent price. With two big differences :
1. It is a 32Gb model (can't even find them in the UK)
2. It came with 2Gb of data a month for 24months on one of the major 3G networks. No Contract just an up-front purchase.
To me the 3G is virtually esential. I can use it anywhere - in my car, out and about (I go to lots of places that are not coffee shops with WiFi!), I can use it to make and receive phone calls or as a live satnav when travelling. With Jellybean I have a three window setup for the car with Google Maps Navigation, handsfree Phone and my music player - all active and simultaneously visible on the big screen. Much better than three different devices.
So why is the best version of the Note 10.1 so expensive in the UK.

A Great Note 8.0 Customer Service Story - AT&T

So last night, I decided to go to an AT&T store to buy an LTE Note 8.0 only to find that the first three of the corporate stores I called didn't have any in stock. Finally, the fourth store I called had two left. So I went over there fully expecting to pay the full unlocked $499 price. To me, it didn't make sense to lock myself in for two years when I'd only save $100 over full retail.
When I walked in, though, I was helped by the store manager. He gets the tablet for me and then goes to look up my account info so he could convert my plan to a MobileShare. He saw that I bought a Galaxy S4 about 40 days ago and, much to my surprise, offered me the smartphone bundle promotion, which meant I could get the tablet on contract for $199. I knew about the promotion but just assumed I wouldn't qualify since I bought the phone before the Note 8.0 even launched.
Needless to say, saving $300 over full retail WAS enough to get me to go contract. There's great customer service and then there's the service I received last night. The manager totally didn't have to do that for me but offered without me even asking. :good:
Awesome! Gratz to hear about your saving. Att never did me wrong, even when they rep accidentally took away my unlimited data, I just call customer service and they just me back on unlimited data.
I had a similar experience. I purchased an S4 but the Note 8 available when I purchased it. When it was to be released by AT&T my AT&T Sales person called me to let me know it would be available on the morrow and they had 5 in the store and further that even though I had purchased my S4 16 days previous AT&T would give me the promo bundle price of $199.00. That is stellar service in my opinion.
Bruce
cataloochee said:
I had a similar experience. I purchased an S4 but the Note 8 available when I purchased it. When it was to be released by AT&T my AT&T Sales person called me to let me know it would be available on the morrow and they had 5 in the store and further that even though I had purchased my S4 16 days previous AT&T would give me the promo bundle price of $199.00. That is stellar service in my opinion.
Bruce
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lol. Dealers do this all the time. They get people into promotions (most which they can find a way to make happen so long as its not too far outside the box).
The dealer did not do it to be helpful, which is the sad thing. Dealers, including managers, make more commission off contracts than they do off devices. So he would have made more commission still with that contract than having you spend money on devices. They do this because the company makes more money having you pay the monthly service cost than by having you buy a full cost phone or tablet.
In essence, it takes a company 18-24 months to make back the subsidized cost of a device. That means that 199 bucks you paid, you will pay back the missing 300 bucks on the plan after typically 18 months. Then they get 6 months of profit. So you do actually pay for the device for full cost anyways.,,,and they just extended out how long between upgrades and by the time you get around to actually being eligible for upgrade they may be extending it out further. The current discussions in the industry are talking about 3 year contracts and 2+ year upgrades.
What you have to consider is the lifetime cost of service and the device. They want you to buy a tablet. It makes you pay for their service, instead of just tethering your phone to the tablet. Tethering is cheaper, not contracts, and you wind up paying A LOT LESS even if you pay full cost for the device.
Truth is that ATT customers typically pay close to 1-2K more than many of the carriers that charge full cost for a device. Basically that 300 bucks you saved cost you at least a grand more in the end, and the manager who was "helping" you basically just weasled you into a contract where you will pay more for a separate plan for the tablet instead of just using cheaper tethering options (considering you still share data regardless) and he just got a good commission out of you.
Sad but true. You just got suckered.
How do I know? Nearly 7 years working in the wireless industry. Some of that time with AT&T and a great deal of that time with retail agents and retail policy.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I hate AT&T dealers. After working for them for so long, Ive come to find that just about every single dealer if about as underhanded as a used car salesman trying to sell you a lemon and convince you its a ferrari. I used to see the dealers in my home town and my normal reaction to them is equivalent to the thought of "you sick bastard."
I do not know how many "deals" a dealer has done that I have had to fix, but typically even if their promises are kept they still use you and screw you over.
Ive even heard dealer chatter. How they talk about customers and think of customers as no more than a mark to be scammed so they can get their next commission. Ive seen more respect for their "victims" from the criminals on "to catch a predator."
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lol. Dealers do this all the time. They get people into promotions (most which they can find a way to make happen so long as its not too far outside the box).
The dealer did not do it to be helpful, which is the sad thing. Dealers, including managers, make more commission off contracts than they do off devices. So he would have made more commission still with that contract than having you spend money on devices. They do this because the company makes more money having you pay the monthly service cost than by having you buy a full cost phone or tablet.
In essence, it takes a company 18-24 months to make back the subsidized cost of a device. That means that 199 bucks you paid, you will pay back the missing 300 bucks on the plan after typically 18 months. Then they get 6 months of profit. So you do actually pay for the device for full cost anyways.,,,and they just extended out how long between upgrades and by the time you get around to actually being eligible for upgrade they may be extending it out further. The current discussions in the industry are talking about 3 year contracts and 2+ year upgrades.
What you have to consider is the lifetime cost of service and the device. They want you to buy a tablet. It makes you pay for their service, instead of just tethering your phone to the tablet. Tethering is cheaper, not contracts, and you wind up paying A LOT LESS even if you pay full cost for the device.
Truth is that ATT customers typically pay close to 1-2K more than many of the carriers that charge full cost for a device. Basically that 300 bucks you saved cost you at least a grand more in the end, and the manager who was "helping" you basically just weasled you into a contract where you will pay more for a separate plan for the tablet instead of just using cheaper tethering options (considering you still share data regardless) and he just got a good commission out of you.
Sad but true. You just got suckered.
How do I know? Nearly 7 years working in the wireless industry. Some of that time with AT&T and a great deal of that time with retail agents and retail policy.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I hate AT&T dealers. After working for them for so long, Ive come to find that just about every single dealer if about as underhanded as a used car salesman trying to sell you a lemon and convince you its a ferrari. I used to see the dealers in my home town and my normal reaction to them is equivalent to the thought of "you sick bastard."
I do not know how many "deals" a dealer has done that I have had to fix, but typically even if their promises are kept they still use you and screw you over.
Ive even heard dealer chatter. How they talk about customers and think of customers as no more than a mark to be scammed so they can get their next commission. Ive seen more respect for their "victims" from the criminals on "to catch a predator."
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While your statements are true they are not necessarily accurate. The only way a person would have been "suckered" is if he didn't know what you describe. But almost all consumers realize that there is no free lunch and that the choice of purchasing outright or monthly result in the full price of the device being paid. The only difference is when payment accrues and how much the final cost will be. No different than purchasing a vehicle or a home.
In addition, the accuracy of your claim of being suckered depends on whether the purchaser bought because of the lower initial price or because he wanted the device in any case. In my case I had already decided to purchase the Note 8 from AT&T and only awaited the availability of the Note 8 at AT&T as I wanted the LTE data option. Thus, my only decision was whether to pay full price or add a two year contract to my account. Since I would have to have a data plan from AT&T to use the LTE feature in any case I needed to have an additional phone line. So I was able to get the regular discounted price or pay full price plus the new line costs (these I would pay no matter how I purchased the device and would last as long as I wanted to use the device). With the additional bundle price I decided to purchase at $199 instead of $399. Of course I realize I will pay full price over the next 24 months including the premium for purchasing by installment. But I knew that, considered it, and choose to do it. Thus, I made a considered decision and was not "suckered".
And clearly the sales staff is trying to sell devices and services that bring them the greatest commission. That's what they do for a living. The consumer knows that too. Maybe the real "suckers" are those sales people that think that they are being really "sharp".
Bruce
cataloochee said:
While your statements are true they are not necessarily accurate. The only way a person would have been "suckered" is if he didn't know what you describe. But almost all consumers realize that there is no free lunch and that the choice of purchasing outright or monthly result in the full price of the device being paid. The only difference is when payment accrues and how much the final cost will be. No different than purchasing a vehicle or a home.
In addition, the accuracy of your claim of being suckered depends on whether the purchaser bought because of the lower initial price or because he wanted the device in any case. In my case I had already decided to purchase the Note 8 from AT&T and only awaited the availability of the Note 8 at AT&T as I wanted the LTE data option. Thus, my only decision was whether to pay full price or add a two year contract to my account. Since I would have to have a data plan from AT&T to use the LTE feature in any case I needed to have an additional phone line. So I was able to get the regular discounted price or pay full price plus the new line costs (these I would pay no matter how I purchased the device and would last as long as I wanted to use the device). With the additional bundle price I decided to purchase at $199 instead of $399. Of course I realize I will pay full price over the next 24 months including the premium for purchasing by installment. But I knew that, considered it, and choose to do it. Thus, I made a considered decision and was not "suckered".
And clearly the sales staff is trying to sell devices and services that bring them the greatest commission. That's what they do for a living. The consumer knows that too. Maybe the real "suckers" are those sales people that think that they are being really "sharp".
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Same here. I don't feel suckered. I walked into the AT&T store fully planning on paying $499 full retail for the tablet. The contract price was $399 and it wasn't worth it to me to lock myself in for 2 years purely to save $100 off retail. However, when I was offered $199 for the tablet, now we're talking about saving $300 over retail up front and that WAS worth it to me as far as locking myself in for two years. I was able to put the $300 toward something else and I love having an LTE tablet. Win-win. It's only being "suckered" if you're led to believe one thing and something different actually happens. I knew what I was getting into.
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Same here. I don't feel suckered. I walked into the AT&T store fully planning on paying $499 full retail for the tablet. The contract price was $399 and it wasn't worth it to me to lock myself in for 2 years purely to save $100 off retail. However, when I was offered $199 for the tablet, now we're talking about saving $300 over retail up front and that WAS worth it to me as far as locking myself in for two years. I was able to put the $300 toward something else and I love having an LTE tablet. Win-win. It's only being "suckered" if you're led to believe one thing and something different actually happens. I knew what I was getting into.
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"You can lead them to the water but you can't make them drink" Of course you know they will, because they're thirsty!!
Nice that's great that they took care of you.. In reality I think you came out on top because if they switched you to mobile share you are only payin $10 a month for that line being locked in for the next 2 years would be $240 so by being in contract you actually get the device for $60 less than full retail.. Great stuff had a similar experience and that's what pushed me over the edge to get it

Best place to preorder S8 & S8+ in the US?

Assuming you're not buying an international variant (or waiting until the official unlocked version releases in May) and using it in the US, where's the best place to pre-order your device?
I technically already pre-ordered mine at Best Buy, but if there's a better place listed, I might just cancel my current pre-order and order it elsewhere. For reference, I'm on AT&T.
And I thought this thread could be helpful for those haven't pre-ordered yet. I can update this post as needed, so it'll be easier to reference.
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All pre-orders of the S8/S8+ will get a free Gear VR & Controller plus an Oculus game pack, but you can also add on a $99 package to also get a pair of bluetooth AKG over-the-ear headphones and a 256GB microSD card.
Must redeem before 5/21/17 through Samsung Promotions, unless otherwise noted.
Note: You can't actually redeem it UNTIL you receive your device, unless you order directly from Samsung. Seems like the only exception to this.
ADDED 4/3: No more than 350,000 bundle gifts and no more than 50,000 box gifts will be given out during this promotion. Will take 6-8 weeks to receive items.
If they run of of the pre-order bonuses, you'll be gifted a $129 credit. Not sure how this would affect the add-on package you pay for, but maybe a refund for that. (thanks to fcb1 for info on the credit and numbers on the bundle, updated 4/3)
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Places to pre-order:
Will include any notes about anything I'm personally uncertain about, even after looking in the site itself. Will appreciate anyone who can clarify things.
Carrier-specific deals (see list below this section) should be able to be stacked at these locations as well, but ask them, just to be sure.
Unless you buy the device upfront, you only have to pay tax and activation fee (unless you have a corporate discount or other exceptions) when you pick up the device. Depending on the carrier, you may also have to pay additional money upfront, as a down payment.
List Updated: 4/3/2017 @ approx 1:20PM EDT
Thanks to LoliSmith, 954wrecker, eyc, & LoliSmith for contributing to the list thus far~
Best Buy: (Verizon, AT&T, and Sprint)
Save up to $100 when you pre-order the S8 & S8+
You save $50 on the S8, $100 on the S8+.
NOTE: You MUST choose a payment plan to get this deal as if you buy the device upfront, you will have to pay the full retail price (varies by carrier). The $50 or $100 discount is an overall discount, but you basically save a lil bit every month, over the course of the plan -- S8: save $2.09/mo for 24 months, AT&T Next 30 months - save $1.67/mo | S8+: save $4.17/mo for 24 months, AT&T Next 30 months - save $3.35/mo
Samsung: (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, T-Mobile)
By purchasing the phone directly from Samsung, you don't have to wait to get the pre-order bonuses, as they'll get shipped with the device. Won't need to submit the form on Samsung Promotions to redeem it.
Will get the devices a day early, on 4/20
NOTE: If you pre-order from Samsung directly, these are NOT unlocked phones. You will have to wait until May to get the unlocked version.
Walmart: (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular - in-store ONLY), (Straight Talk - BOTH online & in-store), (Total Wireless - online ONLY)
You can save $150 when pre-ordering the S8/S8+ (uncertain if this is a credit on the device like Best Buy's offer or a Gift Card - needs confirmation)
MUST sign up for the installment plan to get the deal, otherwise you pay full retail. - ONLY valid on Verizon, AT&T, or Sprint
Added 4/6:You MUST do a $50 down payment (OR whatever amount your carrier requires you to put down as a down payment). When you pick up the phone, the amount you put down as a down payment is stacked with the $150 discount. Then from there, that amount is divided into the number of months for your payment plan with your carrier.
LoliSmith said:
So for the Verizon S8, you pay the sales tax on $720 and $50 downpayment to Walmart and then it would be this:
$720 - $150 discount - $50 downpayment = $520 = $21.67/mo
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NOTE: If you want to pre-order in-store, you can NOT go to any Walmart location. It's specific ones and even the ones that do pre-orders, may not have your specific carrier. I found it to be quite hit and miss when I put my location in. Your experience may vary.
Target: (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint)
You get a $100 Target gift card with purchase and activation of S8 & S8+ (uncertain if you can get the gift card if you buy the phone upfront. I believe you can, but I want to be 100% sure - needs confirmation)
Sam's Club: (Verizon, AT&T, Sprint, US Cellular)
You get a $150 Sam's Club gift card with purchase and activation of S8 & S8+ (uncertain if you can use the gift card at Walmart, or is Sam's Club specific. Heard that it can also be used at Walmart. - needs confirmation)
Added 4/3:You MUST do a payment plan as you can NOT buy devices outright.
Must pre-order between 3/30/17 and 4/12/17 and have to pick up and activate the device between 4/21 & 4/30
Added 4/3: Seems like you can ONLY pre-order online. (I checked their front page, after discovering the original link I plopped here wasn't working. If anyone has had success pre-ordering in-store, let me know. - needs confirmation)
No activation fee IF you pick up the phone between 4/21 - 4/23
NOTE: You must have a Sam's Club membership to pre-order from them.
Costco: (Verizon ONLY - If you're on AT&T, T-Mobile, or Sprint, you HAVE to wait until launch to purchase the device)
Pre-order in-store ONLY
You MUST do a payment plan as you can NOT buy devices outright.
Pre-order bonus of a pair of Level U Pro headphones
Includes TYLT Power Essentials pack: TYLT 5200mAh battery pack, 3' micro USB cable, 3' USB-C cable, Dual Port 4.8A Car Charger, Dual Port 4.8A Car Charger, Carrying Case
NOTE: MUST be a Costco member to pre-order here.
NOTE 4/3: I went to Costco to clarify the deal, so this is current to what I was told. I asked about the gift card someone else mentioned, and there will be NO gift cards via pre-order. They will only come AFTER launch, and it's gonna depend on the carrier. Will update this if that changes.
Directly from carriers:
Includes all carrier-specific offers. If you pre-order them elsewhere (list above), the deals other retailers offer should stack, but double check, if you want actually want to take advantage of these offers below.
Unless you buy the device upfront, you only have to pay tax and activation fee (unless you have a corporate discount) when you pick up the device. Depending on the carrier, you may also have to pay additional money upfront, as a down payment.
Verizon:
Full Retail Cost: $720 (S8), $840 (S8+)
Payment Plan for 24 months: $30/mo. (S8), $35/mo. (S8+)
You can lower your monthly payment to as little as $15/mo. with an eligible trade in device AND enrollment in the Verizon Unlimited Plan. There's other restrictions, besides the two big ones I mentioned previously, so be sure to read the fine print before going through with the offer.
Down Payment: $0
AT&T:
Full Retail Cost: $750 (S8), $850 (S8+)
AT&T Next Pricing: 24 months ($31.25/mo. for S8, $35.42/mo. for S8+) or 30 months ($25/mo. for S8, $28.34/mo. for S8+)
Down Payment: $0 (ADDED 4/3: However, you may have to put a down payment of 30%. Optional with good credit. Might be required otherwise.)
There's a BOGO deal, however here's the catch: One of those lines MUST be a new line AND you also MUST be a new or current DIRECTV customer. You can bypass the new line requirement if you simply open a new line and cancel one of your current lines.
Can get a Gear S3 smartwatch for $50 (full retail: $300), but a 2-year contract is required.
Can get a Tab E or Gear S2 smartwatch for $1, but a 2-year contract is required.
T-Mobile:
Full Retail Cost: $750 (S8), $850 (S8+)
Payment Plan for 24 months: Depends on your credit -- Great ($30/mo for S8 & S8+), Average ($7/mo for S8, $8/mo. for S8+)
Down Payment: Depends with credit -- Great ($30 for S8, $130. for S8+), Average ($582 for S8, $658. for S8+)
Requires purchase of a SIM starter kit, $25 (Is this also the case in-store or this only happens online? What about those that already have a nano SIM in their current phone? - needs clarification)
Sprint:
Full Retail Cost: $750 (S8), $850 (S8+)
Payment Plan for 18 months: Varies with credit -- Great ($31.25/mo for S8, $35.42/mo for S8+), Average ($18.75/mo for S8, $21.53/mo for S8+), No credit check (Can't purchase devices)
Payment Plan for 24 months: Varies with credit -- Great ($31.25/mo for S8, $35.42/mo for S8+), Average ($21.88/mo for S8, $25/mo for S8+), No credit check (Can't purchase devices)
Down Payment: Varies with credit -- Great ($0 for S8 & S8+), Average ($220 for S8, $250 for S8+), No credit check (Can't purchase devices)
Free activation if you pre-order online or over the phone.
Galaxy Forever: Upgrade to the next Galaxy phone any time after 12 months with the 18-month plan.
Can enter to win a home entertainment system from Samsung -- "Enter for a chance to take home the grand prize: a 65" Q8C Curved QLED TV and Dolby Atmos sound bar. Or, enter daily to win a Galaxy S8 accessories pack – a $230 value. No purchase necessary. For complete Official Rules, including entry instructions and prize details, go to sprint.com/s8sweeps."
US Cellular:
Full Retail Cost: $674.99 (S8), $784.99 (S8+) (Can you buy the phone outright if you're a current customer? Was a lil confused when I looked on their site... - needs clarification)
Payment Plan for S8: Only 30 months. Can be free with monthly credits, see note below.
Payment Plan for S8+: 20 months - $41.76/mo., 24 months - $34.80/mo., 30 months - $27.84/mo.
Down Payment: $0
NOTE: Trade in an eligible phone (Galaxy S6 or later; iPhone 5s or later) between 3/30 and 4/20 and you can get the S8 for free (via monthly credits), otherwise, you'll get a $100 gift card. You also have to be on their Total Plan or Shared Connect plan and subscribe to the company's Device Protection + program as well.
For MetroPCS, Boost Mobile, Virgin Mobile USA, Cricket:
You can't pre-order the devices, so they'll be available upon launch on 4/21. (Can you still get the Gear VR deal at launch with these companies, or is this only available for the carriers that you can do pre-orders for? I assume not, but not 100% sure. - needs clarification)
With MetroPCS, you can pre-register for the device, so upon launch you can get the free Gear VR & Controller after purchase. Unlike the carriers where you can do pre-orders for, to redeem this offer, you have to go through MetroPCS's offer site, not Samsung Promotions. You must use the same email that you used when you pre-registered for the device and upload an image file of your purchase receipt by 5/21/17.
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Assuming you're not buying an international variant (or waiting until the official unlocked version releases in May) and using it in the US, where's the best place to pre-order your device?
I technically already pre-ordered mine at Best Buy, but if there's a better place listed, I might just cancel my current pre-order and order it elsewhere. For reference, I'm on AT&T.
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On the walmart site it says $150 off, but when I type in my zip code to find where to pre-order, I get an error. Walmart store reps are clueless about the offer.
https://wm6.walmart.com/galaxys8storefinder
Sam's Club has a $150 gift card with pre-orders and waived activation fees if you pickup on the 21st-23rd, but you have to have a SC's membership to buy.
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/html/desktop/samsung/preorder.html
From what I read, SC gift cards can be used at Walmart. Double check that because I just read that on the internet.
Target is offering a $100 gift card with pre-orders.
https://mobilepreorder.target.com/
why are there none of these promos for tmobile, anyone know?
am i missing something about using another carrier because they use the same radio. i assume they come unlocked
FluxionFluff said:
Assuming you're not buying an international variant (or waiting until the official unlocked version releases in May) and using it in the US, where's the best place to pre-order your device?
I technically already pre-ordered mine at Best Buy, but if there's a better place listed, I might just cancel my current pre-order and order it elsewhere. For reference, I'm on AT&T.
And I thought this thread could be helpful for those haven't pre-ordered yet. I can update this post as needed, so it'll be easier to reference.
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Note: You can't actually redeem it UNTIL you receive your device.
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Best Buy:
Save up to $100 when you pre-order the S8 & S*+
You save $50 on the S8, $100 on the S8+. You MUST choose a payment plan to get this deal as if you buy the device upfront, you will have to pay the full retail price (varies by carrier).
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Regular price on samsung.com but no waiting for the bonus packages they ship with the phones early. No forms to fill out after getting the phone then waiting.
mitchell0714 said:
why are there none of these promos for tmobile, anyone know?
am i missing something about using another carrier because they use the same radio. i assume they come unlocked
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Apparently, T-Mobile doesn't want them to sell them in most 3rd party locations, such as Walmart, Best Buy, and Target. I've seen T-Mobile devices sold at Costco still, so not sure what's up with that. For a while, Costco didn't even have them to begin with, only Verizon, AT&T, and maybe Sprint. Was only recently that I saw T-Mobile there.
I'm not sure if you bought one at one carrier if it'd work in another as sometimes there will be missing bands as the phone was designed for that specific carrier. It depends on the phone really. Verizon is pretty notorious about using phones that weren't specifically designed for their network.
Unless it's changed from a few years ago, even if the phone had the correct bands to work on their CDMA network, if the phone wasn't whitelisted, you couldn't use it. Between T-Mobile and AT&T, it's much easier to go back and forth because they both use GSM networks and you can generally just plop in your SIM card and you're good to go, assuming you have the phone unlocked (or just buy an unlocked phone from the start). This is also why most of the US tech bloggers/Youtubers have either AT&T or T-Mobile.
LoliSmith said:
On the walmart site it says $150 off, but when I type in my zip code to find where to pre-order, I get an error. Walmart store reps are clueless about the offer.
https://wm6.walmart.com/galaxys8storefinder
Sam's Club has a $150 gift card with pre-orders and waived activation fees if you pickup on the 21st-23rd, but you have to have a SC's membership to buy.
https://www.samsclub.com/sams/html/desktop/samsung/preorder.html
From what I read, SC gift cards can be used at Walmart. Double check that because I just read that on the internet.
Target is offering a $100 gift card with pre-orders.
https://mobilepreorder.target.com/
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Thanks for the links~ Added to the OP.
Also, I looked into the Walmart one and turns out... it depends on your location. For me, when I put my location in, the nearest one that will do it, is like 45 min away. T.T My local ones in town aren't listed. I could try to go to my local one and see what's up, but that's something to keep in mind.
I did try to look into if Sam's Club gift cards actually work at Walmart as well, but besides stuff on the internet, I have no first hand experience with Sam's Club as there isn't one near me. Need someone who has dealt with this, to clarify. :/
954wrecker said:
Regular price on samsung.com but no waiting for the bonus packages they ship with the phones early. No forms to fill out after getting the phone then waiting.
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Thanks for the links~ Added to the OP.
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Just updated the list will all the info I know. If there's anything I'm not certain about, I included that, and will appreciate any clarification. Will add stuff as I find out stuff myself or from what people have posted and I double check it.
Anyone here get tangled up in the Note7 recall? A lesson to be learned is that if there's a problem with the phone in general or yours in particular where you buy it makes a difference.
The mass market B&M retailers including Best Buy were incredibly difficult for people to deal with. Target and Walmart being exceptionally bad. Online, Amazon was fantastic and B&H gets honorable mention. Ironically Samsung.com get's a resounding "F." People who pre-ordered from them were the last to get their phones and they were clueless and helpless during the recall. Samsung.com isn't run by Samsung. It's run by Digital River on their behalf. I've had problems even ordering accessories from them. I'd stay far away. People that bought grey market phones from eBay in many cases were either left with no refund or spent inordinate amounts of time trying to get their Note7's refunded. So - Caveat Emptor,
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Anyone here get tangled up in the Note7 recall? A lesson to be learned is that if there's a problem with the phone in general or yours in particular where you buy it makes a difference.
The mass market B&M retailers including Best Buy were incredibly difficult for people to deal with. Target and Walmart being exceptionally bad. Online, Amazon was fantastic and B&H gets honorable mention. Ironically Samsung.com get's a resounding "F." People who pre-ordered from them were the last to get their phones and they were clueless and helpless during the recall. Samsung.com isn't run by Samsung. It's run by Digital River on their behalf. I've had problems even ordering accessories from them. I'd stay far away. People that bought grey market phones from eBay in many cases were either left with no refund or spent inordinate amounts of time trying to get their Note7's refunded. So - Caveat Emptor,
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I can attest to the fact that samsung.com or digital river is completely useless in every way for any type of customer service issue from simple to complex.
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Target and Walmart being exceptionally bad.
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I had a wonderful experience with Target. They let me keep not only the $100 gift card for the trade in (which they had to) but also the $200 gift card for adding a new line. I returned the Note 7 for a full refund.
Those who didn't and exchanged for the replacement notes did even better - they kept the gift cards and freebies from the first Note 7, then got a second round of freebies for the replacement Note 7. Then returned that and got an S7E and got more freebies and a $100 bill credit from Verizon.
Best.Deal.Ever
Anywhere you can buy from without tax?
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Anywhere you can buy from without tax?
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Probably not if the state you live charges tax. When the unlocked one is released B&H doesn't charge tax outside its state.
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I had a wonderful experience with Target. They let me keep not only the $100 gift card for the trade in (which they had to) but also the $200 gift card for adding a new line. I returned the Note 7 for a full refund.
Those who didn't and exchanged for the replacement notes did even better - they kept the gift cards and freebies from the first Note 7, then got a second round of freebies for the replacement Note 7. Then returned that and got an S7E and got more freebies and a $100 bill credit from Verizon.
Best.Deal.Ever
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I was one of the first to receive a pre-order Note7 from AT&T. I was the one the first to exchange it during recall round 1. I was one of the first to get a S7e when Samsung threw in the towel. I was on the Note7 forum for a long time before and after all that. What I shared was capsulized from what I read there. I'm glad you had a good experience but there were plenty of people who bought through Target who had ended up disputing the charge on their credit card after getting stonewalled in-store only to have Target challenge the dispute. In most cases it worked out but what about all the time, hassle, and strife people went through? Chains like Walmart and Target are luck of the draw with very different experiences based on city and region. I'm in Southern Louisiana and I'd buy nothing more complicated than lettuce or toilet paper from either of them because if the before-sale experience is awful I can only imagine what after-sale would look like.
I'm buying a UK S8+ this time but if I were buying a carrier version the Note7 experience taught me the value of dealing with a company to whom I'm not a one-time sale (EG: Best Buy, Target, Walmart) vs. a carrier to who I pay $2K a year. From the Note7 debacle I got a 128GB storage card, Gear VR, $100 bill credit, $100 in waived Next payments, a S7e outright for the Next pay-off ($385) of my returned Note5, and a Gear S3 for $49. Not everyone had my experience with AT&T just like others didn't have yours at Target. But I can say without question Note7 owners dealing with a carrier vs. third party resellers (especially Samsung.com) faired far better. Where third parties rigorously enforce returns, exchanges, and service policies (and some even have their own separate ET clauses) carriers apply some subjectivity because of your overall worth to them.
It would be hard to imagine a repeat of the Note7 debacle so the above is admittedly extreme. But where you buy your phone still matters.
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Anyone here get tangled up in the Note7 recall? A lesson to be learned is that if there's a problem with the phone in general or yours in particular where you buy it makes a difference.
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I heard about that debacle, but I didn't have a Note 7, so this didn't affect me at all. I was wondering though, for those who were affected, are they getting any discounts for an upcoming device? I heard that this was the case in South Korea, but I'm quite unsure about elsewhere as I honestly didn't look too much into it because I never owned a Note 7 myself.
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Anywhere you can buy from without tax?
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If you buy it secondhand, like from Swappa, which is where I bought my S6. However, you will have to pay whatever amount the person wants for the device. Depending on the person, you might be able to negotiate, but don't bet on paying much less than what they're listing the device for.
Now, that's if you buy it from another person. If you buy it from a 3rd party reseller (not an individual person, but a company), you might have to pay tax, depending on where they're located and if you're located in the same location, or are on a list of states they charge sales tax in.
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Awesome thread. Thanks OP.
General question about the VZW promos that one of you may know:
This morning, I upgraded all devices on my family plan to the Unlimited Data Plan (3 phones and 3 tablets). But, later this evening, I learned about the S8 pre-order/upgrade/trade-in promo, where you can trade in an old phone for 50% off the S8, provided that you upgrade to UDP.
Will Verizon allow me to make use of this promo, even though I already upgraded to UDP earlier today? I'd like to trade in one mobile device (Galaxy S6) and get the 50% discount on the Galaxy S8.
Or will they fight me on this and tell me that I have to pre-order at the time of the upgrade?
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Awesome thread. Thanks OP.
General question about the VZW promos that one of you may know:
This morning, I upgraded all devices on my family plan to the Unlimited Data Plan (3 phones and 3 tablets). But, later this evening, I learned about the S8 pre-order/upgrade/trade-in promo, where you can trade in an old phone for 50% off the S8, provided that you upgrade to UDP.
Will Verizon allow me to make use of this promo, even though I already upgraded to UDP earlier today? I'd like to trade in one mobile device (Galaxy S6) and get the 50% discount on the Galaxy S8.
Or will they fight me on this and tell me that I have to pre-order at the time of the upgrade?
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Thanks! I thought having everything consolidated would be helpful and nice to have it all in a single place.
Hm, as to your question, from what I can tell while I was doing research earlier, you shouldn't have an issue. As you already have the unlimited plan, you can simply jump to the step where you can trade in an eligible phone. Apparently, you can also trade in a phone after checking out too.
With the phone you trade in, it HAS to already be fully paid off and in good working condition. With the credits, they'll appear on your bill over 24 months and will start start within 1-2 cycles. They'll stop once either the phone's paid off OR the line is cancelled/transferred to an illegible plan.
I do wonder what would happen if you were to pay off the phone before 24 months ends, if you still have those credits... Because how I interpreted what I read from Verizon's site about the deal, they go poof, if you pay off the device beforehand.
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Thanks! I thought having everything consolidated would be helpful and nice to have it all in a single place.
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Dumb question, but what does it mean when Samsung says "while supplies last"? Since you don't get the VR set immediately upon purchase, isn't it feasible that supplies run out before you redeem the offer? That couldn't possibly be the case, right?
Usually, when someone says "while supplies last," it means that the promo will terminate early if supplies run out. But, here, Samsung can't know if supplies run out until people start trying to redeem, after their purchase. So, can people be caught in the middle and not get anything even if they purchased while supplies were still in stock?
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Dumb question, but what does it mean when Samsung says "while supplies last"? Since you don't get the VR set immediately upon purchase, isn't it feasible that supplies run out before you redeem the offer? That couldn't possibly be the case, right?
Usually, when someone says "while supplies last," it means that the promo will terminate early if supplies run out. But, here, Samsung can't know if supplies run out until people start trying to redeem, after their purchase. So, can people be caught in the middle and not get anything even if they purchased while supplies were still in stock?
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The fine print also says it's at the company who is doing the promotions discretion to instead give you 120$ credit if they run out
BarryH_GEG said:
but if I were buying a carrier version the Note7 experience taught me the value of dealing with a company to whom I'm not a one-time sale (EG: Best Buy, Target, Walmart) vs. a carrier to who I pay $2K a year.
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I have had tremendously good customer service with Best Buy and terrible customer service with Verizon corporate stores. Either way, after the 2 week return period is up, I deal with the manufacturer directly for warranty claims. I have back up phones so it is not a problem for me to send my phone off.
AT&T customer service is definitely worse than Verizon, I switched to Verizon from AT&T and noticed the difference right away.
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BarryH_GEG said:
It would be hard to imagine a repeat of the Note7 debacle so the above is admittedly extreme. But where you buy your phone still matters.
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I have never had a problem with Best Buy or Target. If I get the S8, I am pre-ordering it from Walmart for $150 off. With tax and upgrade fee it will come to $635 + freebies. Not sure if I will get it or not because for sure I am getting the Note 8. My Note 5 is getting long in the tooth and its battery is really showing its age.
I do have a Pixel that I haven't used yet, I guess I could use that and forego the S8. I am trying to control myself when it comes to buying phones but it is so hard to do when they are so shiny and pretty and new, lol!
FluxionFluff said:
For those [Note7 owners] who were affected, are they getting any discounts for an upcoming device? I heard that this was the case in South Korea.
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Nope. Samsung's U.S. SVP said "they'd make it up to us" when the Note7 first got cancelled but nothing's been done outside the similar promos offered during the Note7's launch. Lots of market surveys were done about the damage to the Samsung brand over the Note7 and how customer loyalty was affected. For the most part the results were positive. I'm sure that played a hand in what Samsung decided about doing recompense wise for former Note7 owners. They could still do something on the backend like a free accessory or Samsung.com credit. They know who we are.
eyc said:
Dumb question, but what does it mean when Samsung says "while supplies last"? Since you don't get the VR set immediately upon purchase, isn't it feasible that supplies run out before you redeem the offer? That couldn't possibly be the case, right?
Usually, when someone says "while supplies last," it means that the promo will terminate early if supplies run out. But, here, Samsung can't know if supplies run out until people start trying to redeem, after their purchase. So, can people be caught in the middle and not get anything even if they purchased while supplies were still in stock?
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Like fb1 said, you'll get a credit if they run out before you can redeem it. I have no idea how many of these Gear VRs they even plan on giving out, so the sooner you get your device, the sooner you can redeem it, and you'll be more likely to receive it.
Considering it's gonna take a few weeks anyway to confirm and get the free gift, they could always make more in the meantime. That, and I assume they're basing their estimates on how many people pre-ordered the S7 and then adding some additional stock from there. There's no way to know the exact number of Gear VRs they put to the side, unless you actually work for Samsung. Even if you did, that information would be on the DL anyway...
fcb1 said:
The fine print also says it's at the company who is doing the promotions discretion to instead give you 120$ credit if they run out
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Good to know fcb1! Will add that to the front, so people are aware of that lil note.
BarryH_GEG said:
Nope. Samsung's U.S. SVP said "they'd make it up to us" when the Note7 first got cancelled but nothing's been done outside the similar promos offered during the Note7's launch. Lots of market surveys were done about the damage to the Samsung brand over the Note7 and how customer loyalty was affected. For the most part the results were positive. I'm sure that played a hand in what Samsung decided about doing recompense wise for former Note7 owners. They could still do something on the backend like a free accessory or Samsung.com credit. They know who we are.
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Ouch. :/ That sucks. Hope they do something about it. Maybe something for the upcoming Note 8 launch this fall, as I assume that people who had the Note 7, would want another Note, rather than an S phone. Who knows. It's all speculation until they actually do something.
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Feel free to let me know if I missed any offers, typos, clarify things I'm certain about. Will update the list as needed.

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