Camera quality - Xperia Z2 General

Hi everyone, I've been reading around a bit about the Z2 camera and I'm finding some very conflicting opinions. GSMarena did a camera shootout not too long ago for which I'm pretty sure the Z2 came last or at least did horribly. (http://www.gsmarena.com/camera_shootout-review-1104.php) What makes this interesting is that DXOmark (http://www.dxomark.com/Phones/Sony-...ed-model-takes-first-place-in-Mobile-rankings) did a review on the Z2 camera and it scored quite highly. Am I missing something here? I don't think the stills are amazing to be honest and I mostly use superior auto. Is superior auto just garbage?

Camera has been improved with the new 4.4.4 Android update.Second of all,yes - Superior Auto is complete crap to be honest.The real deal is shooting in Manual Mode.So you need to play with the camera options abit to achieve the shot you want to see.Apart of that i don't beleave that the scores from dxomark are true.Sony has a crappy software (we all know that),so if u have time to shoot something - do it on manual. You will be surprised with the results.Use superior when u need to take a fast shot only.

effective said:
Camera has been improved with the new 4.4.4 Android update.Second of all,yes - Superior Auto is complete crap to be honest.The real deal is shooting in Manual Mode.So you need to play with the camera options abit to achieve the shot you want to see.Apart of that i don't beleave that the scores from dxomark are true.Sony has a crappy software (we all know that),so if u have time to shoot something - do it on manual. You will be surprised with the results.Use superior when u need to take a fast shot only.
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Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.

mimahitna said:
Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.
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Well you can try by yourself and decide which one fits you the best..Personaly i use the stock app using Manual mode.Other good apps are Camera 51 , ProCapture camera , LGcamera. Try them and decide. Cheers :highfive:

effective said:
Well you can try by yourself and decide which one fits you the best..Personaly i use the stock app using Manual mode.Other good apps are Camera 51 , ProCapture camera , LGcamera. Try them and decide. Cheers :highfive:
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Thanks man.

I have to admit this the Z2 is horrible under use of Superiour Auto however manual mode with correct settings, this camera will eat others
I recomend using the stock camera

Envious_Data said:
I have to admit this the Z2 is horrible under use of Superiour Auto however manual mode with correct settings, this camera will eat others
I recomend using the stock camera
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Hi.
Where i can find a guide like that?
Because i try to use my camera with superior auto and the taken pics doesn't look good.

avercros said:
Hi.
Where i can find a guide like that?
Because i try to use my camera with superior auto and the taken pics doesn't look good.
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I dont know of any guides
Try googling words you dont know such as:
Exposure
ISO
Metering
White balance
Anything else you dont understand
I usualy like to use these settings:
ISO400(always)
Metering: Spot or multi
2MP size
Apropriate exposure and white balance
Flash i try to keep off

Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673226
Just see.
My opinion: currently Z2 Camera is amazing, in Manual Mode.
Recommended.
See more on my Flickr, here is the example:
Luzern bridge by doministry, on Flickr

mimahitna said:
Hi friend,
you tell that Sony has a crappy camera software... Its true but can we solve problem using another camera software and which software... ?
Maybe Google camera app or... What is your favorite camera app ?
Greetings from Serbia.
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Sony only pretends to allow other apps to take control of for example ISO (FV-5 Camera comes up in my mind in particular), but doesn't do so. The onyl camera, which really can use manual settings like ISO from user is crappy Sony Camera app unfortunately. We should all pray for Sony not screwing up 5.0 update with all it' new camera APIs being open.

So it seems to be unanimous that superior auto is crap, I'll start using manual then from now on
Thanks guys!

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Vignette Camera Conclusion

Hmmm...I purchased this app a little while ago and switched back to my default camera...today I decided to go back to Vignette and do some photo tests against the default camera.
Both apps are on the same settings, or as close as I could make them. Clearly to my surprise the Vignette app actually takes sharper pics than the X10 camera.
Attached is a photo sample to show the difference...im my eyes its actually a pretty big difference.
Mr Patchy Patch said:
Hmmm...I purchased this app a little while ago and switched back to my default camera...today I decided to go back to Vignette and do some photo tests against the default camera.
Both apps are on the same settings, or as close as I could make them. Clearly to my surprise the Vignette app actually takes sharper pics than the X10 camera.
Attached is a photo sample to show the difference...im my eyes its actually a pretty big difference.
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i went in the same way i was using vignette but i guess it was some stupid version .. with no available options ... and returned to stock camera ... but now i`m using one of the latest versions and OMG the difference is so big ... i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
I'm usually a really cynical poster and I don't mean to be a ****, but that's been one of the most popular topics on the forum. It's definitely true though, I don't use the original camera app much.
The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that you can't adjust the contrast on the fly like in the native camera app. I don't like the interface as much either. The X10's interface is pretty good, it just lacks the ability to keep the light enabled by default, to view pictures fullscreen and without Mediascape and a few other very minor tweaks. For once SEMC actually did something correct with the minimalistic and straight forward camera interface.
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i went in the same way i was using vignette but i guess it was some stupid version .. with no available options ... and returned to stock camera ... but now i`m using one of the latest versions and OMG the difference is so big ... i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
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I think you may have used the free version...which doesn't support the full resolution of your phone. But I took a few different pictures comparing, I only posted that one comparision, but yeah vignette came out better everytime alot more crisp anyways.
bongd said:
I'm usually a really cynical poster and I don't mean to be a ****, but that's been one of the most popular topics on the forum. It's definitely true though, I don't use the original camera app much.
The only thing I don't like about Vignette is that you can't adjust the contrast on the fly like in the native camera app. I don't like the interface as much either. The X10's interface is pretty good, it just lacks the ability to keep the light enabled by default, to view pictures fullscreen and without Mediascape and a few other very minor tweaks. For once SEMC actually did something correct with the minimalistic and straight forward camera interface.
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Maybe 2.1 will improve the default camera app, but from what Ive read its only giving us 720p and nothing else. I actually like the interface on vignette, I also like the interface on the default camera. But when it really comes down to it, its all about what app will take the clearer more crisp picture right? and that goes to Vignette hands down. There may be a bunch of posts about this already, but really Ill admit, im way to lazy to search today...sorry
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Maybe 2.1 will improve the default camera app, but from what Ive read its only giving us 720p and nothing else. I actually like the interface on vignette, I also like the interface on the default camera. But when it really comes down to it, its all about what app will take the clearer more crisp picture right? and that goes to Vignette hands down. There may be a bunch of posts about this already, but really Ill admit, im way to lazy to search today...sorry
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I'm positive that even SEMC will update the interface to include some of the important features. It's sad that we have to pay for a third party app to do the most minimalistic tasks, and that's to just take a proper picture. Nothing advanced even!...
bongd said:
I'm positive that even SEMC will update the interface to include some of the important features. It's sad that we have to pay for a third party app to do the most minimalistic tasks, and that's to just take a proper picture. Nothing advanced even!...
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I was watching a video on youtube of the droid x camera and features....I wish SE would give us something like that. Pretty slick interface and options....really no need for 3rd party apps. However I do have PicSay Pro...so that gives me everything my heart desires lol.
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I returned to the stock app because vignette is so damn slow and I could not find a way to just take a picture and have it save without having to push 50 buttons.
I won't deny the quality is far superior, but like I said its just stop slow.
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Lakata said:
i just deleted stock camera app from my screen never gonna use it again ! )
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That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
Well I've noticed that night(or atleast low light) shots are pretty much the same with either app... they both suck
I use Vignette for everything else though...wish it had a better UI
iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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Hopefully he just meant he removed the icon from his home screen.
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pngface said:
Well I've noticed that night(or atleast low light) shots are pretty much the same with either app... they both suck
I use Vignette for everything else though...wish it had a better UI
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I've noticed low light shots are a week point to... that's when I break out my actual digital camera tho.... which also happens to be sony lol
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iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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i just removed the shortcut m8 from the screen and in vignette there is a shortcut when u use it to take video and when you press the button u go to video mode to your stock camera app
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Hopefully he just meant he removed the icon from his home screen.
Sent from my X10a using XDA App
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exactly what i did
I tried using Vignette, but I found that it seemed to crop some of the picture automatically? Like, I know there's something like that in the settings, but besides that, what I see on the screen before I take the picture isn't the same as what's captured. Also, I found it really difficult with macro shots, especially with the autoflash. While focussing, the light comes on, but then the light goes off after focus, so then the camera refocuses, and when the picture is taken, the flash comes on but the camera focussed for without light, so you get over exposure or out of focus. Am I using the app wrong? I'm really finding it difficult to focus and get clear pictures, with vignette or stock app
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I tried using Vignette, but I found that it seemed to crop some of the picture automatically? Like, I know there's something like that in the settings, but besides that, what I see on the screen before I take the picture isn't the same as what's captured. Also, I found it really difficult with macro shots, especially with the autoflash. While focussing, the light comes on, but then the light goes off after focus, so then the camera refocuses, and when the picture is taken, the flash comes on but the camera focussed for without light, so you get over exposure or out of focus. Am I using the app wrong? I'm really finding it difficult to focus and get clear pictures, with vignette or stock app
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It almost sounds like your doing something wrong. Do you have the paid version?
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Stock App - 8mp, Macro
Vignette - 8mp, superfine
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Stock App - 8mp, Macro
Vignette - 8mp, superfine
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There pretty close, but it almost looks like the X10 default camera has the edge in that pic. Perhaps the X10 default camera is better in lower light photos? I haven't tested that yet.
iead1 said:
That's the stupidest thing you could've done. You've probably broken every application on your phone that uses the camera to add a picture to a message/fb/twitter, ect.
Also, you've lost the ability to easily take video.
Does anyone think before they delete apps?
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Hey big brain, before call somebody stupid think a little bit. Probably he just delete it from main screen. I did the same too
rafaperez3d said:
Hey big brain, before call somebody stupid think a little bit. Probably he just delete it from main screen. I did the same too
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y exactly ) i was thinking is easy to understand that i only deleted the app from my screen not uninstalling it
and about those 2 pictures with the sunglasses m8... there maybe is not difference in close up pictures coz macro is working fine but try to take pictures from distance and youll see the difference anyway i`m using steady shot for best preformance 8mpx superfine and 16:9 widescreen something u dont have at stock app 8pmx only 4:3 ... sooo there u go aaaa and another thing with vignette u can take picture with a real FLASH ... not with LED light

Will google ever fix the camera app? :/

Why is it so hard for google to fix the camera app and the camera quality issues that plague android? I was expecting them to fix it with the 5.1 update , but no luck, if you ask apple fans why they think the iphone is superior , the only thing they have going for them is camera quality. All I'm asking is that they reduce the time it takes to take a HDR+ picture , because without HDR+ the nexus 6 camera is kinda meh, implement an auto HDR+ mode, let us actually use burst mode, timelapse, that's pretty much it.... I don't want to install 3 different camera apps to get features that should be stock ...
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Why is it so hard for google to fix the camera app and the camera quality issues that plague android? I was expecting them to fix it with the 5.1 update , but no luck, if you ask apple fans why they think the iphone is superior , the only thing they have going for them is camera quality. All I'm asking is that they reduce the time it takes to take a HDR+ picture , because without HDR+ the nexus 6 camera is kinda meh, implement an auto HDR+ mode, let us actually use burst mode, timelapse, that's pretty much it.... I don't want to install 3 different camera apps to get features that should be stock ...
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Totally agree, nexus 6 is finally a google phone with a good sensor and lens, and they ruin it with a camera app stuck in 2012.
Things missing:
- 60 fps video
- auto HDR
- HDR Video
- burst mode
- slow motion
- manual settings for ISO and shutter speed
- touch focus & manual focus during videos
- stutter free zoom
- stereo sound recording
I hear you I'm not very pleased with the situation either. I did download a program just for burst mode (Perfectly Clear) something that was standard on my galaxy S3 2 + years ago. The focus hunting in video mode is infuriating also.
I also agree about the iPhone. I was looking through my friend's new iPhone 6 and was playing with apps and camera like lame, lame, lame, wow this camera app is nice and slow mo!
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I want a quick picture may use the camera app.
I do not have the time or care enough about taking pictures to learn what half the terms mean.
Take a picture, capture a moment .... looks good enough to me.
Really if they had Auto HDR .... whatever that is I can not see me using it.
Just go with the defaults.
If anything I never go for the highest resolution do not want to fill my internal memory or cloud storage with pictures.
Now I read many threads where people that want to take professional looking pictures just buy a third party app, think Camera 2 was recommended.
The iPhone Camera app maybe better but with Android you are free to try other apps.
The problem is the 3rd party apps suck at doing it (HDR, Burst, etc) and some excel at one thing so you end up having 4 camera apps that don't do what the iPhone camera does pretty well in one app. It is not like you can't run other camera apps on your iPhone either!
Don't be an Android fanboi/apologist please. Good grief!
I don't think its being an android fanboy or apologist to say a person has a differing opinion than yours. I use HDR on my N6 ALL THE TIME.
Quality is fine for me. I'm not looking to become some great camera phone photographer. I just want to capture a quick moment. I've used quite a few camera apps and, in the end, I find it doesn't matter to me. It all looks good to me.
Point, shoot, upload... MAYBE stream through Chromecast for family. You prefer a better camera set of functions, others, including myself, think the camera is just fine because it fits what we do with our cameras.
It not like anyone is slinging mud at you and telling you to go get an iPhone.. Don't be that guy that throws mud because someone has a differing opinion than you.
So just to be clear... your opinion is the camera app is "good enough" and we all should be fine with that? Oh well then O.K. No reason to improve it then. What's next?
Edit: YOU HAVE A NOTE 4??? Get the f*** out of here you are not using Google camera!!! If I had a Note 4 I would not be complaining either! It arguably takes better pictures than the iPhone :good:
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So just to be clear... your opinion is the camera app is "good enough" and we all should be fine with that? Oh well then O.K. No reason to improve it then. What's next?
Edit: YOU HAVE A NOTE 4??? Get the f*** out of here you are not using Google camera!!!
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u do realize u can download the google camera from the play store right? Also its just a phone with a camera. you want quality pics buy a real camera. Gotta love the complainers over something very small. There is nothing wrong with the camera. Get real. Jeez
Auto HDR would also help people who don't want to spend time learning to take pictures.
I think we need an easy to use and fast camera app, which also adds options for those who want to get the best out of the camera. The new Lumia Camera 5 is doing this pretty good i think.
Title of thread: Will google ever fix the camera app
People agree it sucks. It runs from acceptable to horrendous. We are labeled complainers? Why is it so much to ask that Google has a "good" camera by default then if I want manual controls or other features I use another app?
Yes, if I want to take a lot of good pictures I will break out my DSLR but functionally my Galaxy S3 was better than what came in my Nexus 6.
DebianDog said:
Title of thread: Will google ever fix the camera app
People agree it sucks. It runs from acceptable to horrendous. We are labeled complainers? Why is it so much to ask that Google has a "good" camera by default then if I want manual controls or other features I use another app?
Yes, if I want to take a lot of good pictures I will break out my DSLR but functionally my Galaxy S3 was better than what came in my Nexus 6.
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Its very simple to them having a acceptable os running would be far more important than any apks. You cant sit there and tell me u rather have a good camera over the os. If so thats a stupid thought. A camera app can be fixed very easily by downloading another from the playstore. So again this small issue that people are having with the google camera is what it is A SMALL ISSUE.
Not quite sure i agree with all the people saying " you can just download another app " ?? you can't
Not if you want 120fps slow motion
or 60fps.
italia0101 said:
Not quite sure i agree with all the people saying " you can just download another app " ?? you can't
Not if you want 120fps slow motion
or 60fps.
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You cant....oh here u go. Sure can
https://play.google.com/store/searc...iCAoGY2FtZXJhegIYAIoBAggB:S:ANO1ljIbXPM&hl=en
Oh look google camera 2nd one on the list.
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You cant....oh here u go. Sure can
https://play.google.com/store/searc...iCAoGY2FtZXJhegIYAIoBAggB:S:ANO1ljIbXPM&hl=en
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Thanks for that massive list of camera apps... none of which give 60fps or 120fps slow motion?
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Thanks for that massive list of camera apps... none of which give 60fps or 120fps slow motion?
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its a phone are u serious? if your looking for a camera with a phone then go to windows
The nexus 6 is a phone with a camera. Besides even in your post u stated u cant download another app. Right there proves u wrong.
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its a phone are u serious? if your looking for a camera with a phone then go to windows
The nexus 6 is a phone with a camera. Besides even in your post u stated u cant download another app. Right there proves u wrong.
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Lol ok, you need to take the fanboy hat off. Firstly i've had every Nexus phone since the Nexus S , love them, but the camera app is just poor and lacking features.
Oh and go back and read my post again, i said ... not if you want 60fps or 120fps slow motion. ( which btw the OnePlus One can do with the same sensor!) .. get off your high horse
"its a phone are u serious? if your looking for a camera with a phone then go to windows"
This is beyond stupid, how many Android phones out there have MUCH better camera apps than Nexus branded devices ???? ?nearly all of them
The fanboy in you is shocking.
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Lol ok, you need to take the fanboy hat off. Firstly i've had every Nexus phone since the Nexus S , love them, but the camera app is just poor and lacking features.
Oh and go back and read my post again, i said ... not if you want 60fps or 120fps slow motion... get off your high horse .
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Far from a fan boy. Just getting ridiculous with people complaining about a non issue. How is the camera lacking features when it was provided just recently? the google camera is new back in april 2014. So no sure what u mean by poor and lacking features. If thats the case then the google now launcher and is poor and lacking features. Do some research fanboy
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Far from a fan boy. Just getting ridiculous with people complaining about a non issue. How is the camera lacking features when it was provided just recently? the google camera is new back in april 2014. So no sure what u mean by poor and lacking features. If thats the case then the google now launcher and is poor and lacking features. Do some research fanboy
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Lol you're making yourself look ridiculous.
So apparently because it was given to us in April 2014 means its perfect? LOL
HTC, Samsung , Sony, OnePlus ( Oneplus btw has the same damn sensor so its 100% capable ) ... All of their Android devices offer :
60-fps
Slow motion
HDR in video
better autofocus while recording video
The list is actually pretty long from whats lacking on the Nexus camera app, sorry but if you can't see that , you're straight up blind, either physically or mentally
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Lol you're making yourself look ridiculous.
So apparently because it was given to us in April 2014 means its perfect? LOL
HTC, Samsung , Sony, OnePlus ... All of their Android devices offer :
60-fps
Slow motion
HDR in video
better autofocus while recording video
The list is actually pretty long from whats lacking on the Nexus camera app, sorry but if you can't see that , there's no point in taking to you.
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your the one complaining about a non issue. google makes apps/os as simple as possible. Again research before u continue to complain about a non issue. Your a joke dude thinking that google left out features. there is a reason why. Simplicity.
Have a great day
Ps. Never said its perfect, but its not bad as most people state it is. I rather have simplicity over a camera with features I wont use.
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your the one complaining about a non issue. google makes apps/os as simple as possible. Again research before u continue to complain about a non issue. Your a joke dude thinking that google left out features. there is a reason why. Simplicity.
Have a great day
Ps. Never said its perfect, but its not bad as most people state it is. I rather have simplicity over a camera with features I wont use.
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LOL , cheers, needed that laugh

Camera applications A vs. B: compared

The other day I wrote an article about camera applications, questioning if one is really better than another (full article here). Since my blog doesn't get many viewers I figured it might be helpful to post my results here as well for more coverage. I try to prove that various camera apps aren't necessarily better than others. I did one test using six different camera apps or settings, shooting from exactly the same spot pointing at my Arduino. I'm not yet telling you which photo belongs to which camera app as I want to find out from you if there is any noticeable difference between the following, in no particular order:
Superior Auto mode from Sony devices @ 8MP
Manual mode from Sony devices @ 20MP, ISO-50
Google Camera @ 20 MP
Camera FV-5 @ 20MP
Camera FV-5 @ 20MP, Night mode (exposure "long")
Open Camera @ 20MP
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Please do NOT vote on the poll if there is no one photo that looks significantly better
Let me know what you think!
@Hermantje
Did you try Vignette ?
It's one of my favorite camera app :3
For me,
1. Camera FV-5> very good at long exposure + tripod, because Sony stock camera can't do this. . .
Exposure Bracket very useful too, and Sony can't do this too. . .
2. Google camera> only for photosphere, because we can't modify ISO value and EV.
I wish Sony stock camera have this feature xD
3. Vignette> actually it's like Creative Effect but with more useful focus, effect, filter etc.
Please correct me if I'm wrong :3
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@Hermantje
Did you try Vignette ?
It's one of my favorite camera app :3
For me,
1. Camera FV-5> very good at long exposure + tripod, because Sony stock camera can't do this. . .
Exposure Bracket very useful too, and Sony can't do this too. . .
2. Google camera> only for photosphere, because we can't modify ISO value and EV.
I wish Sony stock camera have this feature xD
3. Vignette> actually it's like Creative Effect but with more useful focus, effect, filter etc.
Please correct me if I'm wrong :3
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I couldn't agree more on points 1 and 2
I haven't tried Vignette yet. But that's because I want my photos to look natural, and if I want effects then I always add them after the fact with Snapseed or Photoshop on PC.
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I couldn't agree more on points 1 and 2
I haven't tried Vignette yet. But that's because I want my photos to look natural, and if I want effects then I always add them after the fact with Snapseed or Photoshop on PC.
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Please try it xD
I'm using Vignette not because filter or any effect it's offer, but because focus, detail and colours.
And I dont like edit/filter photos, I like natural photo, just like you xD
Sometimes, Vignette give more details and accurate colours vs Sony Stock Camera.
Noise still there, but still acceptable.
Btw, I'm used Superfine Quality + 8 MP on Vignette so the photo size 10++ MB xD
Still jpeg, cannot beat png offered by FV-5 :3
I didn't think 20 MP it's "usable" xD
What your opinion about 20 MP ?
Yenkazu said:
Please try it xD
I'm using Vignette not because filter or any effect it's offer, but because focus, detail and colours.
And I dont like edit/filter photos, I like natural photo, just like you xD
Sometimes, Vignette give more details and accurate colours vs Sony Stock Camera.
Noise still there, but still acceptable.
Btw, I'm used Superfine Quality + 8 MP on Vignette so the photo size 10++ MB xD
Still jpeg, cannot beat png offered by FV-5 :3
I didn't think 20 MP it's "usable" xD
What your opinion about 20 MP ?
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I'm always using 20MP just because of the idea of otherwise throwing away data and... just because I can. But I don't always find it useful. I only really find it useful when using Camera FV-5's night mode or when shooting at ISO-50 in daylight in the stock app. For quick snaps I do use Superior Auto just because of its simplicity, and then of course it's at 8MP. I should give Vignette a try, then :good:
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I'm always using 20MP just because of the idea of otherwise throwing away data and... just because I can. But I don't always find it useful. I only really find it useful when using Camera FV-5's night mode or when shooting at ISO-50 in daylight in the stock app. For quick snaps I do use Superior Auto just because of its simplicity, and then of course it's at 8MP. I should give Vignette a try, then :good:
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Wew. . .
I'm prefered 8 MP because the details :3
20MP "awesome", but the ISO limit only 800 (if I remember correctly), of course it's useful for daylight then xD
But sometimes, using 20 MP make me think, the details it's enough or not. . .
So I decided used 8 MP, 20 MP for "rare" situation then :3
Thanks for your feedback
Btw, what your current OS right now ?
I'm on L .270, the HDR on the stock camera awful vs in KK
Yesterday, I'm trying used HDR and the photo look very bad, I dunno why xD
Maybe I'm wrong, but if you on L .270, you should try the HDR
And did you know, only Sony Stock Camera can control the ISO ?
I'm trying set the ISO on Camera FV-5 but it's still automatic. . .
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Yenkazu said:
Wew. . .
I'm prefered 8 MP because the details :3
20MP "awesome", but the ISO limit only 800 (if I remember correctly), of course it's useful for daylight then xD
But sometimes, using 20 MP make me think, the details it's enough or not. . .
So I decided used 8 MP, 20 MP for "rare" situation then :3
Thanks for your feedback
Btw, what your current OS right now ?
I'm on L .270, the HDR on the stock camera awful vs in KK
Yesterday, I'm trying used HDR and the photo look very bad, I dunno why xD
Maybe I'm wrong, but if you on L .270, you should try the HDR
And did you know, only Sony Stock Camera can control the ISO ?
I'm trying set the ISO on Camera FV-5 but it's still automatic. . .
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I'm currently on .242, rooted. I never use HDR though, generally not a fan of the effect it creates. I would recommend most people to just shoot at 8MP. You save a lot of memory that way
Hermantje said:
I'm currently on .242, rooted. I never use HDR though, generally not a fan of the effect it creates. I would recommend most people to just shoot at 8MP. You save a lot of memory that way
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Why not updated to .270 ?
HDR on Kitkat works very well :3
Maybe something wrong with my settings :/
I agree, save a lot of memory + fast rendering photo :3
Yenkazu said:
Why not updated to .270 ?
HDR on Kitkat works very well :3
Maybe something wrong with my settings :/
I agree, save a lot of memory + fast rendering photo :3
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Because I'm waiting for a 5.1 update. If I update, I'm losing root (well I don't know if there's a way to install the update while keeping root) so I'll have to root again, reinstall every app... it's just too much work for me with a minor update :silly:
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Because I'm waiting for a 5.1 update. If I update, I'm losing root (well I don't know if there's a way to install the update while keeping root) so I'll have to root again, reinstall every app... it's just too much work for me with a minor update :silly:
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Ah, you can used pre-rooted zip :3
But you need recovery for flash that zip.
Back to topic, it's seem HDR on L kinda weird, the ISO is the culprit. . .
If I set the ISO 50, the effect good, but not really good compared in KK, so I will left HDR in L. . .
In KK, if I set ISO auto, the effect really nice, but not in L.
And many photo editor app can do that (HDR), I guess it's not really matter then xD
Just a reminder: the poll closes within a week. I will have interpreted the results by then, but in the meantime: the more votes the better! :laugh:

Huawei mate s or p8 camera port

hey I wondering if it is possible to port the good camera from Huawei mate s or Huawei p8 , even honor 7 . they are the same with lot of good functions. well nexus 6p is a Huawei device too, do u think it is possible ?
It likely uses the EMUI framework so I doubt it. The Google camera app is great and there are other options on the play store if you don't like the stock one
y cant we have few features like using the fingerprint sensor for taking selfie or scrolling? No such app?
varun.gid said:
y cant we have few features like using the fingerprint sensor for taking selfie or scrolling? No such app?
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Its a Nexus (AOSP based)not a bloated EMUI phone. That's why it doesnt have those bloated features, nor does it need them. I never take 'selfies' or even use the FFC so it's not important to have for me. You have to remember that this is a Nexus not a skinned UI phone so it only has the bare minimum in terms of software features. If it had Huaweis normal UI it would be slower and the phone would be ruined.
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It likely uses the EMUI framework so I doubt it. The Google camera app is great and there are other options on the play store if you don't like the stock one
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Sorry m8 but the stock camera app sucks. No ISO, no Sutter speed, no manual focus, nothing. Fv-5 is great but it needs some bug fixing cuz sometimes is just wont focus and won't capture at all.
mr.dj26 said:
Sorry m8 but the stock camera app sucks. No ISO, no Sutter speed, no manual focus, nothing. Fv-5 is great but it needs some bug fixing cuz sometimes is just wont focus and won't capture at all.
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None of that is really required on a phone. The stock camera app works great, and doesn't clutter things up with necessary features. I use my DSLR frequently in manual mode which serves a purpose for a real camera; phones don't need manual adjustments especially not the 6P. Every picture I've taken has come out perfectly the first time I took it. I don't need to play with settings like I did on my LG G3, Nexus 6, or S5.
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None of that is really required on a phone. The stock camera app works great, and doesn't clutter things up with necessary features. I use my DSLR frequently in manual mode which serves a purpose for a real camera; phones don't need manual adjustments especially not the 6P. Every picture I've taken has come out perfectly the first time I took it. I don't need to play with settings like I did on my LG G3, Nexus 6, or S5.
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I don't know about you but I really miss the HTC camera app. Editing the photos in real time using the MF, SP, and ISO can give you the image your looking for. Nevertheless, even on auto setting on FV-5 it takes better photos then the stock camera app on the 6p. For me it always seems to be over exposed and washed out.
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I don't know about you but I really miss the HTC camera app. Editing the photos in real time using the MF, SP, and ISO can give you the image your looking for. Nevertheless, even on auto setting on FV-5 it takes better photos then the stock camera app on the 6p. For me it always seems to be over exposed and washed out.
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I've never owned an HTC so I can't say I know what you're taking about. I know there are a lot is good camera apps out there, but I've never had any bad pictures from the stock app with auto HDR and flash off
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I don't know about you but I really miss the HTC camera app. Editing the photos in real time using the MF, SP, and ISO can give you the image your looking for. Nevertheless, even on auto setting on FV-5 it takes better photos then the stock camera app on the 6p. For me it always seems to be over exposed and washed out.
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pretty sure you can get the HTC Camera app on apkmirror
DarkExistence said:
pretty sure you can get the HTC Camera app on apkmirror
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You need the frameworks so the camera won't crash
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You need the frameworks so the camera won't crash
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Weird. I just downloaded it. Well I didn't get the marshmallow version. Maybe being rooted has to do with it
DarkExistence said:
pretty sure you can get the HTC Camera app on apkmirror
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Nope, won't work
mr.dj26 said:
Nope, won't work
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strange that i can use it

New way to take great photos with absurde quality (.PNG)

Hey everyone.
Today I searched in store some kind of camera app with macro focus feature (too bad Sony Camera lacks this.)
So I came across Camera FV-5. Nice interface, but still a Sony UI fan. Anyway, besides the macro focus, under Settings I found the option to save pictures as .PNG.
I knew it has a better compression, almost lossless, compared to the common and easy-to-process .JPEG, so I took one photo outside (ISO 50, AutoFocus, a bit lowered exposure) and one indoor (without flash, yellow/orange 60W lightbulb as source of light in the room, same settings as above.)
I was pretty impressed by the quality. It takes some time to process the image fully, Album firstly doesn't even recognize the photo as existent. Afterwards, it takes ages to load the cache when double-tap zoom.
Anyway, see how nice, crisp and clear photos our phones can take - with absolute no post-editing.
Taken with Z3 Compact with Cyberian Camera MOD.
BTW, the files are huge. One is 21.7 MB and the other over 25. That means 1 pixel is over 1 byte. Cool.
OUTSIDE VIEW
INSIDE ENERGY BAR
Wow - that shot of the candy bar is VERY impressive. Too bad the file size is so ridiculously large. Can you show us the same picture taken using the Sony Superior Auto Mode (8MP)?
PuffDaddy_d said:
Can you show us the same picture taken using the Sony Superior Auto Mode (8MP)?
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I've attached 8MP and 20 MP versions, Superior Auto Mode.
And thanks to Cyberian MOD, I'm lucky to have macro auto-scene on 20MP also.
Also, massive improvement in quality overall, the Z5 Camera libs really work great.
Now that I can see them side by side, it still appears that the Sony camera app reduces noise better than the 3rd party app. I had a similar experience in a comparison thread I created a while back as well.
Sent from the only flagship phone that actually fits in my hand... The Sony Xperia Z3 Compact
weekender90 said:
I've attached 8MP and 20 MP versions, Superior Auto Mode.
And thanks to Cyberian MOD, I'm lucky to have macro auto-scene on 20MP also.
Also, massive improvement in quality overall, the Z5 Camera libs really work great.
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Not bad for a macro shot. Here's mine using the Slim Rom i been using for couple of months.
I just used the sony camera with z5 camera libs, set to auto 8MP (4:3).
yoorie016 said:
Not bad for a macro shot. Here's mine using the Slim Rom i been using for couple of months.
I just used the sony camera with z5 camera libs, set to auto 8MP (4:3).
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Oh my god, I'm in love with your photos...
Gonna flash this today and compare the results very strictly before and after flashing
romcio47 said:
Oh my god, I'm in love with your photos...
Gonna flash this today and compare the results very strictly before and after flashing
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Thanks I didn't make any tweaks, i just used the auto and set the aspect ration to 4:3.
here's another one, and saved on JPEG format.
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
jody2k said:
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
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So stock camera is now better?
doriandiaconu said:
So stock camera is now better?
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No i mean with open camera or snap camera its waayy better than stock camera
jody2k said:
No i mean with open camera or snap camera its waayy better than stock camera
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What rom are you using?
Sent from my D5803 using XDA Free mobile app
jody2k said:
Jep im using open camera and snap camera they also give simelar results. I dont know why sony gave such a bad stock camera the difference is huge
The sony camera takes better pictures now than my galaxy s6
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I have a hard time agreeing with you. I tried to compare the stock camera software to various 3rd party software (including Open Camera) and the results indicated that Sony's produces better images:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/sonys-camera-isnt-worse-t3102790

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