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problem with checking for updates after rooting

hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?

nielsvg said:
hello,
i rooted my galaxy S4 i9505 today using the steps here descripted: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2255190
now when i check for updates it keeps saying:
your device has been modified sofware updates are not available.
does this mean i cannot check for updates like this anymore?
should i unroot my phone to get this function back?
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When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.

kaalalto said:
When a device is rooted, firmware is modified (customised) so the update is not available as Samsung considers it as another firmware.
If you want to get OTA updates back, you must unroot first. Flashing again the stock firmware without rooting it will allow you to have OTA again.
You can also use TriangleAway in order to reset your flash counter for warranty purposes.
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do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?

nielsvg said:
do i still get kies updates or does it always has to go with odin?
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No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.

kaalalto said:
No, after returning to official status, you can use whatever you want to update (KIES, OTA and Odin).
May I suggest you to use the pre-rooted roms made for i9505. They are identical to stock roms, are already rooted and keep the official status.
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i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?

nielsvg said:
i installed triangleaway and now it's official.
but do i have to keep this app on my phone or can i delete it?
and if i do install other roms do i have to keep doing this with triangleaway if it arent roms were this is implemented automaticly?
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Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the Samsung's OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) needs root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !

kaalalto said:
Triangle away is just for reset flash counter. If you're now on official status and the OTA is available, there is no need to keep it.
Anyway, in order to work, TriangleAway (TA) need root. So if you're unrooted, you cannot use it.
For the other roms like cyanogenmod, there is no need of TA. Their updater will update the rom regardless of flash counter or status, as it cannot be official anayway !
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one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?

nielsvg said:
one last thing
triangle away didnt do it. i had to download OFFICIAL STATUS MOD(.tar.md5 and do it through odin.
now it really worked but triangle away isnt working anymore and SU says when opening: there is no SU binary installed and SuperSU couldnt install it. this is a problem.
is this really a problem?
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It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

nielsvg said:
It works again
This is the final question. If my phonevis brokenvand have to send it for repair do i have waranty?
Sent from my GT-I9505 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !

kaalalto said:
I didn't understand you...but if you're speakin about sending the phone to Samsung, I think flashing it before to stock ROM and to unroot it would be a nice thing !
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today my phone gave the notification of a new update. it can download it but when trying to install it it gives an error that it cant install it ota and i have to use kies?
i better didnt root because it is a phone of my employer

As you received your OTA file, everything is back to normal. However, sometimes OTA may not work correctly. You should then update with KIES or use Odin to flash the correct version.

[Q] {Need urgent help} Rooting issue

I rooted my device with cf-autoroot and is is succesfully rooted but when i checked my mobile status it say's custom not official.Then i flashed a stock firmware downloaded from samfirmwares and then flashed using odin then it was succesfully flashed then now my device status is official
Now will i get the warranty or not??
Will i be able to install updates from kies with no problem??when i rooted my device i got the error message while updating throught kies now that i flashed the stock rom non-rooted will i be able to install updates from kies or not??really need help
Help me figure this out.....

If now says official should not be problem with update. Try install TriangleAway from google play.

abhirockz said:
I rooted my device with cf-autoroot and is is succesfully rooted but when i checked my mobile status it say's custom not official.Then i flashed a stock firmware downloaded from samfirmwares and then flashed using odin then it was succesfully flashed then now my device status is official
Now will i get the warranty or not??
Will i be able to install updates from kies with no problem??when i rooted my device i got the error message while updating throught kies now that i flashed the stock rom non-rooted will i be able to install updates from kies or not??really need help
Help me figure this out.....
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You lost your warranty mate. If you ever flash anything with Odin (except official firmware), you tripped flash counter.
You most probable have I9500 Indian phone and there is no way to reset hidden flash counter. Triangle Away do not work on I9500.
But yes, you will be able to download updates from kies. No problem with that as long as you do not root and keep status official.

rl421403 said:
You lost your warranty mate. If you ever flash anything with Odin (except official firmware), you tripped flash counter.
You most probable have I9500 Indian phone and there is no way to reset hidden flash counter. Triangle Away do not work on I9500.
But yes, you will be able to download updates from kies. No problem with that as long as you do not root and keep status official.
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i only flashed official stock firmware from odin nothing else i rooted using cwm..how can i find hidden flash counter?
my s4 is not indian it's uae..I brought it from dubai not india.Any help will be appreciated??
can i install indian firmware on my s4 UAE and still recieve updates ..is it possible?

abhirockz said:
i only flashed official stock firmware from odin nothing else i rooted using cwm..
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Official stock firmware does not trip counter. But how did you get CWM on your phone? By flashing CWM recovery with odin. Right. So it tripped counter.
abhirockz said:
how can i find hidden flash counter?
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You cannot, that's why it's HIDDEN flash counter. Right now there is no way to read flash counter or reset it.
abhirockz said:
my s4 is not indian it's uae..I brought it from dubai not india.Any help will be appreciated??
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Does not matter since it's GT-I9500. Although Samsung do not offer international warranty. Warranty is valid for UAE only and you might claim it if you are able to convince them about flash counter.
Can you check if you have GT-I9500, if you have GT-I9505 then you might have some hope.
abhirockz said:
can i install indian firmware on my s4 UAE and still recieve updates ..is it possible?
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I don't see a reason why you cannot. But the only issue you might face is with CSC, localization and modem which you can flash separately later. But apart from that you will be fine.
I think you should get updates and there should not be any problem as long as you keep your device official (no root, no cwm, no flashing), but I cannot confirm this because I have never tried.

[Q] Return My S4 505 to stock

Hi
I need to return my S4 to Samsung for a warranty repair. I can't find my original nand back up. I need a link to uk stock roms please to flash in odin I do believe. And stock recovery. If this is done will it be back to stock and no counter?? I've not updated bootloader so no Knox counter.
Also will this make it Kies update able again???
Cheers People
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Hi
I need to return my S4 to Samsung for a warranty repair. I can't find my original nand back up. I need a link to uk stock roms please to flash in odin I do believe. And stock recovery. If this is done will it be back to stock and no counter?? I've not updated bootloader so no Knox counter.
Also will this make it Kies update able again???
Cheers People
Robbo
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Hello mate, If you did not updated your phone on 4.3 samsung stock firmware then please feel free to download the 4.2.2 from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it via odin by selecting PDA . then send it back have a nice day.

Hi
Thanks for the reply but it just takes me to the home page of sammobile. And what do you mena by send it back?? Thanks??
Do these firmwares also flash stock recovery??
Cheers Robbo
Repulsa said:
Hello mate, If you did not updated your phone on 4.3 samsung stock firmware then please feel free to download the 4.2.2 from here http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/2/ and flash it via odin by selecting PDA . then send it back have a nice day.
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Robbo106 said:
Hi
Thanks for the reply but it just takes me to the home page of sammobile. And what do you mena by send it back?? Thanks??
Do these firmwares also flash stock recovery??
Cheers Robbo
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Hello again , you need to sign up sir in order to check it out then click the Link that i gave you and download the stock rom that you need , once you flash this stock rom from samsung, you should good to go to send it for warranty/repair. more to say just like the first time you bought your phone. have a nice day.

Repulsa said:
Hello again , you need to sign up sir in order to check it out then click the Link that i gave you and download the stock rom that you need , once you flash this stock rom from samsung, you should good to go to send it for warranty/repair. more to say just like the first time you bought your phone. have a nice day.
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Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
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Let me makes things clear for you mate , right now i have an old bootloader (No Knox warranty void, when i go to download mode) means i can flash any 4.2.2 firmware without having any knox void warranty. this is what i do i flash a pre-rooted rom then use a triangle away to reset the binary and use Phil recovery and flash any 4.3 custom rom i want! but if you need to send your phone to samsung because there's a hardware problem , feel free to flash a 4.2 from you country.(Since more likely after they fix your phone they will prolly update it to 4.3) remember flashing a 4.3 mk9 stock rom means a new bootloader/Knox void warranty 0x0 willl be activate.So if you flash root/custom rom that should void your warranty to 0x1 Please feel free to check more about Knox from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832

Robbo106 said:
Thanks again. All signed up and it takes me to the firmware and phone select page.
If I select my phone and UK it gives me a MK9 version. Is that ok? or will that be 4.3.
Can I ask another question too please. If I was to update to an official sammy 4.3 rom and then root. Would I still get the knox count or problems??
Robbo
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1- Ur phone is unbranded? MK9 use android 4.3. I will tell ya the correct firmware for u if u are lil confused
2- If u root it u will void ur warranty. Ur knox will be 0x1

Repulsa said:
Let me makes things clear for you mate , right now i have an old bootloader (No Knox warranty void, when i go to download mode) means i can flash any 4.2.2 firmware without having any knox void warranty. this is what i do i flash a pre-rooted rom then use a triangle away to reset the binary and use Phil recovery and flash any 4.3 custom rom i want! but if you need to send your phone to samsung because there's a hardware problem , feel free to flash a 4.2 from you country.(Since more likely after they fix your phone they will prolly update it to 4.3) remember flashing a 4.3 mk9 stock rom means a new bootloader/Knox void warranty 0x0 willl be activate.So if you flash root/custom rom that should void your warranty to 0x1 Please feel free to check more about Knox from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2447832
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Yes I understood that. I'm in the same situation as you as in the way I flash ROMS. I didn't realise that the counter still worked even if it was an official update with bootloader, just thought if I flashed a custom rom with new bootloader it started the Knox warranty void.
Thanks for all your help. I'm gutted now though coz your right Samsung probably update my phone and then I'm b****ed anyway if I root again and custom rom it. Your link doen't take me to a 4.2.2. rom though so I'll keep looking.
Cheers Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Yes I understood that. I'm in the same situation as you as in the way I flash ROMS. I didn't realise that the counter still worked even if it was an official update with bootloader, just thought if I flashed a custom rom with new bootloader it started the Knox warranty void.
Thanks for all your help. I'm gutted now though coz your right Samsung probably update my phone and then I'm b****ed anyway if I root again and custom rom it. Your link doen't take me to a 4.2.2. rom though so I'll keep looking.
Cheers Robbo
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Im sorry about that here you go www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/ and incase your having trouble feel free to ask here and ill answer you whenever i can or you can ask @Joku1981 as well. have a nice day.

Joku1981 said:
1- Ur phone is unbranded? MK9 use android 4.3. I will tell ya the correct firmware for u if u are lil confused
2- If u root it u will void ur warranty. Ur know will be 0x1
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Yes I'm unbranded and on 3 network. Unlocked
Would rather have sammy 4.2.2 to return it on please. Not confused just don't know how to find older version. It just brings up latest.
Robbo

Robbo106 said:
Yes I'm unbranded and on 3 network. Unlocked
Would rather have sammy 4.2.2 to return it on please. Not confused just don't know how to find older version. It just brings up latest.
Robbo
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- UK Android 4.3 -> HERE
- UK Android 4.2.2 -> HERE

Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app

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Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
Joku1981 said:
- UK Android 4.3 -> HERE
- UK Android 4.2.2 -> HERE
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Robbo106 said:
Hi you've all been a great help. But the day has come I have to send my s4 in for repairs. Just need some more help.
Please tell me if this is correct method to get back to stock?
Do u flash stock recovery using odin and what options? Pda? Modem?
Then do I use triangle away to reset all counters and then flash stock rom with odin?
Just wanna get it right
Cheers Robbo
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You need to flash a pre-rooted rom from djembey thread. Then you can use triangle away to reset the binary .and the flash a stock rom and sent it for repair. Please read the instruction on djembey thread so you wont void ur warranty.
2nd opinion . Flash a stock rom with odin by selecting PDA. And root your phone using saferoot (i dont know about this if it works) install triangle away . Reset binary . Reflash stock again then send.
Sent from Hell ?

Is the pre rooted stock rom so that triangle away will work??? I'm on a pre rooted custom rom but need a samsung kernal for triangle away to work properly. If a flash the stock rom I have on 4.2.2 will that aslo flash stock recovery???
Repulsa said:
You need to flash a pre-rooted rom from djembey thread. Then you can use triangle away to reset the binary .and the flash a stock rom and sent it for repair. Please read the instruction on djembey thread so you wont void ur warranty.
2nd opinion . Flash a stock rom with odin by selecting PDA. And root your phone using saferoot (i dont know about this if it works) install triangle away . Reset binary . Reflash stock again then send.
Sent from Hell ?
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Robbo106 said:
Is the pre rooted stock rom so that triangle away will work??? I'm on a pre rooted custom rom but need a samsung kernal for triangle away to work properly. If a flash the stock rom I have on 4.2.2 will that aslo flash stock recovery???
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Thats correct ,as long its a Stock and rooted then yes you can reset the binary.then flash the stock rom again and you should be fine . incase your phone are still in old bootloader (no knox, never flash 4.3 Samsung rom) then feel free to flash a 4.2.2 Pre-rooted BMGA-odex-FULL from djembey thread ,once your done, Download/Install triangle away and reset the binary, flash a Normal stock rom from samsung, Boot into download mode and you will see it says Official and your good to go Goodluck mate

You've been a great help thanks. Stock recovery is that also flashed when I flash the stock rom last through odin???
So I'm gonna flash a stock rom pre rooted 4.2.2 with CWM then use triangle away then flash stock samsung through odin.
Repulsa said:
Thats correct ,as long its a Stock and rooted then yes you can reset the binary.then flash the stock rom again and you should be fine . incase your phone are still in old bootloader (no knox, never flash 4.3 Samsung rom) then feel free to flash a 4.2.2 Pre-rooted BMGA-odex-FULL from djembey thread ,once your done, Download/Install triangle away and reset the binary, flash a Normal stock rom from samsung, Boot into download mode and you will see it says Official and your good to go Goodluck mate
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update problem after update G900FXXU1ANG8

Hello,
i use a G900F and had root with towelroot.
i did an update on my Phone today to G900FXXU1ANG8. the installation went perfect.
but after the update i tried a new search for a software update and now i got the notification:
the operating system on your device has been modified in an unauthorized way. try downloading software updates using samsung kies on your pc or visit a customer service center.
I also use the app Phone info and when i check my knox counter it says 0X0 so normally this isnt triggerd.
when i connect to kies it just says my Phone has the latest software?

Hi,
u have just lose the Root. towelroot only work with OLD kernel.
i suggest u to Downgrade to ANG2 and use This method to gain Root and stay on this Version Until new trick was discovered to have again root on new stock roms.
Best regards

but i dont want root again. i didnt use it. so what then?

nielsvg said:
but i dont want root again. i didnt use it. so what then?
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flash newest firmware with odin

AEkiz said:
flash newest firmware with odin
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but will i be able to do an update OTA again? that's what i want again

Yes, I did it, had same problem ,flashed new version with Odin, even changed csc, didn't trigger knox and Ota now works fine.
Sent from my SM-G900F using XDA Free mobile app

And don`t forget to data factory reset after flashing the stock rom

airuzzo said:
Hi,
u have just lose the Root. towelroot only work with OLD kernel.
i suggest u to Downgrade to ANG2 and use This method to gain Root and stay on this Version Until new trick was discovered to have again root on new stock roms.
Best regards
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You don't need to downgrade just flash NE2 Kernel, root and flash latest firmware kernel

Hi!
I have a problem with HealthService and Context Service is there any way to fix this?
Thanks

[Q] Samsung Galaxy S5 downgrade from 5.0

Hello,
Few days ago, I flashed my galaxy s5 (SM-G900F) to lastest poland 5.0 update using odin. Now when samsung started to push update in other countries I wish to get it OTA so I considering to downgrade back to my original 4.4.2. Croatian firmware. Now I am asking you is that even possible and how ? I read some comments on internet how people brick ther s5 if they try to flash older firmware via odin, other say that are succeeded si now I am little confused?

kameni011 said:
Hello,
Few days ago, I flashed my galaxy s5 (SM-G900F) to lastest poland 5.0 update using odin. Now when samsung started to push update in other countries I wish to get it OTA so I considering to downgrade back to my original 4.4.2. Croatian firmware. Now I am asking you is that even possible and how ? I read some comments on internet how people brick ther s5 if they try to flash older firmware via odin, other say that are succeeded si now I am little confused?
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Its already threads about this but this is how i downgraded.
1.recovery = factory reset
2. Odin PC flash a matching 4.4.2 stock rom
3. recovery factory reset and you should be fine maybe pull battery before you do factory rest i did not my self.
sent from a SM~G900F powered by foxhound 1.1 ROM.

Prosafe said:
Its already threads about this but this is how i downgraded.
1.recovery = factory reset
2. Odin PC flash a matching 4.4.2 stock rom
3. recovery factory reset and you should be fine maybe pull battery before you do factory rest i did not my self.
sent from a SM~G900F powered by foxhound 1.1 ROM.
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is this method is safe
mobile will not brick na ?

navinash.avi said:
is this method is safe
mobile will not brick na ?
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I've already done it 2 times, without any problems
1. Find your Firmware and download
2. Flash via ODIN
3. Boot into Recovery -> Factory Reset
4. Reboot device
That's all

kromic1204 said:
I've already done it 2 times, without any problems
1. Find your Firmware and download
2. Flash via ODIN
3. Boot into Recovery -> Factory Reset
4. Reboot device
That's all
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That method works for me, THANKS!

OTA uodate
But now when Iam official, will I be alble to update to 5.0 OTA becouse my knox waranty void is 0x1. Some guy wrote on other forum that if I have knox 0x1 i wont be able to update OTA anymore. I have official recovery?

kromic1204 said:
I've already done it 2 times, without any problems
1. Find your Firmware and download
2. Flash via ODIN
3. Boot into Recovery -> Factory Reset
4. Reboot device
That's all
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I have done the same and it worked.
Updated to 5.0, but i got no signal then need to downgrade to kitkat.

predogo said:
I have done the same and it worked.
Updated to 5.0, but i got no signal then need to downgrade to kitkat.
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Did you flash right bootloader & modem?
Matching csc?
I'm on 5.0 for the 5th time (everytime different rom) and no problems till now :good:
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kameni011 said:
But now when Iam official, will I be alble to update to 5.0 OTA becouse my knox waranty void is 0x1. Some guy wrote on other forum that if I have knox 0x1 i wont be able to update OTA anymore. I have official recovery?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/sprint-galaxy-s5/general/able-to-ota-updates-sprint-s5-root-knox-t2844846
No idea if this still the same for international S5..

Some more questions
Prosafe said:
Its already threads about this but this is how i downgraded.
1.recovery = factory reset
2. Odin PC flash a matching 4.4.2 stock rom
3. recovery factory reset and you should be fine maybe pull battery before you do factory rest i did not my self.
sent from a SM~G900F powered by foxhound 1.1 ROM.
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How does the flashing a matching 4.4.2 stock rom work is it all in the program (odin) or do i need to go and find it and downlaod it seperatly?

You need to find it and download it

answer
guys just foolwed this tutorial top downgrade it tooks a few minutes to do now im running kitkat on my s5 again yaay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=glNRCuH4Yyw

predogo said:
I have done the same and it worked.
Updated to 5.0, but i got no signal then need to downgrade to kitkat.
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where i can download firmware?