Objective data on performance differences with Encrption on vs off - Nexus 6 General

In the development forum, there is now a method to disable encryption with or without root. Many people say the phone feels faster with encryption off, and battery life is improved. I wonder how much of this is placebo effect? We have two Nexus 6 phones. We turned encryption off on one to compare. AnTuTu was around 51,000 on the encryption off phone, and 50,000 on the stock phone. We cleared all open apps, and tested different things simultaneously. We could not see any difference in camera start times, phone app opening times, Photo gallery opening, Chrome opening time, etc.. The only noticeable difference was when we turned the phone on after being off. The stock phone takes about 15 seconds longer to turn on. My son thinks battery life is better, but we have not done an objective test with a good measurement. Anyone else have real data?

performance, as in phone speed is not affected. what is affected is the speed it reads and writes to your storage, that is it. this is an antutu of a nexus 6 that is still encrypted. again, it only affects read and write speeds to your storage.
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rdalcanto said:
In the development forum, there is now a method to disable encryption with or without root. Many people say the phone feels faster with encryption off, and battery life is improved. I wonder how much of this is placebo effect? We have two Nexus 6 phones. We turned encryption off on one to compare. AnTuTu was around 51,000 on the encryption off phone, and 50,000 on the stock phone. We cleared all open apps, and tested different things simultaneously. We could not see any difference in camera start times, phone app opening times, Photo gallery opening, Chrome opening time, etc.. The only noticeable difference was when we turned the phone on after being off. The stock phone takes about 15 seconds longer to turn on. My son thinks battery life is better, but we have not done an objective test with a good measurement. Anyone else have real data?
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I bet if you took all the people *****ing about the encryption and handed them a random phone, they wouldn't have an idea if encryption was enabled or not.

I've not noticed performance difference either way. I don't like being forced into it though.

If battery performance is really better, i would be interested in doing it....

I'm not seeing any difference in usage after decrypting.

I realise this is a nexus 6 forum, but I'm still waiting for mine,
Anyway, heres a video I made showing the difference on the n5
Nexus 5 - Android 5.0 Lollipop - Encrypted vs Uneā€¦: http://youtu.be/2gmdRlg0vag
Quite honestly I run Encrypted now and I don't notice

I'm still encrypted and haven't noticed anything. Granted, i would like the camera a little faster but no big deal.

It seems as though there's another variable in this equation...different memory modules in Nexus 6 units:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-6-internal-memory-chipsets-t2955045

Yeah I've been both ways and can't tell a whole lot. Plus like the guy above me just mentioned we got different memory.

If we break it down into its basic parts this is the pros for each.
Disabling encryption:
-less CPU overhead
-significantly faster disk I/O
-less CPU overhead=less battery usage( potentially minimal)
-Faster boots
Encryption On:
-safer data
-maybe something I missed
Now its completely possible that all of the pros for decrypting are so minimal they will be hardly noticeable. So basically you have to decide what's more important to you. Personally I haven't needed decryption since I've owned a G1, and I would rather have my phone run more efficiently, though its possible you may choose different.

Just leave it, as most govs can decrypt it within minutes

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Just leave it, as most govs can decrypt it within minutes
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In that thread, I can draw no meaningful conclusion about the different vendors used for RAM/Flash.
I suspect it's a non-issue (other than perhaps statistically seeing a fractional of percent differences between the vendors). The differences in doing software encryption would over shadow any vendor's RAM/Flash differences IMHO.
I would put more energy and thought in getting Qualcomm / Google to get hardware assisted encryption going (releasing the libraries).

Has anyone been able to compare CPU usage during storage benchmarks for encrypted vs unencrypted? I think the idea here is that the CPU is doing the decrypting and therefor limiting the speed that we can access data. If that is accurate, we should see 100% CPU usage during storage benchmarks when the phone is encrypted and something less than 100% when decrypted.

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Most govs have absolutely no f's to give about what I have on my phone.
I turned it off the instant I got to my laptop. don't need it, don't want it, have no use for it.

It shouldn't matter whether there is a tangible performance difference to the user or not. The truth is there objectively IS a performance hit with memory read/write, and first and foremost, they are forcing encryption onto people without a choice, on a platform that is all about choice. It is like anonymous user stats. I usually leave it unchecked but I wouldn't really care if I forgot to uncheck it. But once that checkbox disappears and you can't do anything about it, well that's a problem for me. Encryption of my data? No I want my data to be free and unencrypted especially if I may need to access it without encyption keys thank you very much.

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Possible Solution to Battery life problems

Take this for what it is worth, it applies to my device.
I define "acceptable" battery life as I arrive home at night with > 25% battery remaining. I firmly believe that if you want to charge your smart phone once a week you need to wait for fusion batteries because current technology will just cause you to complain bitterly on-line.
That said, I had seen occasions when my battery would be hot and you could practically watch it drain. This while the phone was not in use and in good coverage area i.e. an aberration.
I read a reference a while back in a vaguely related support site talking about the phone getting stuck in USB polling mode. Honest I did! I am just completely unable to find the reference to include here.
Anyhow, as all programmers know polling is a fatally, catastrophically, horrible, thing to do; there are only a very few specific circumstances when that is an acceptable design.
So, after a fair bit of digging I found that my Glacier (rooted, stock ROM) can sometimes get itself into a USB polling mode. I theorize this is related to the mini-USB to micro-USB adapter, although it may also just be the act of plugging and unplugging it too quickly (loose connection, plug slips out of fingers etc.). But for whatever reason it appears caused by the device seeing something on the USB port but disappearing before the driver can decide what it is looking at.
Once it gets in this state the CPU clocks up to 1GHz, and goes to 100% duty cycle. And it does not move from that state. User interaction is a bit sluggish but not necessarily that noticeable.
The best solution is to toggle USB debugging off and back on. This seems to reset the driver and settle it down. I leave USB debugging on but do not believe that is causal. So if you don't use USB debugging I still believe this could apply to your device and by toggling on and back off you can probably achieve the same results. The key is to get the USB driver to reset its state.
As a pitch, the most expensive piece of software I have thus far purchased is SystemPanel. It was instrumental in figuring this out, although any task monitor, even "top" would probably help. Still SystemPanel is just so cool I have to pitch it here. (No I don't have a monetary interest, blah, blah, blah. It rocks, you'll like it. Trust me).
Anyhow, if your USB driver goes into polling mode it will fairly well wipe out a fully charged battery in 2-3 hours. And anyone is right to complain about that!
Hope this helps.
Terry
Terry,
Are you absolutely, 100% certain you are not experiencing either one of the following issues:
Issue #11126 - http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
Issue #13130 - http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13130, which points back here to a thread on XDA, regarding the USB Debugging workaround...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507
No one, has the real explanation of what causes either of these processes to run out of control. I guess that's why they're still bugs.
We all know that a phone running Froyo, that is experiencing either of these issues, will experience extremely rapid battery drain. Why it happens to some and not others, no one yet knows. Phones NOT experiencing this issue, specifically, Glaciers not experiencing this issue, regularly hit 15 hours of battery life without any form of ROM modification, hacks, SetCPU adjustments, etc. - such as me and the 5 Glaciers I currently have here and have tested numerous times...
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*3 of those are going back on Monday.
I am fortunate to never have experienced this, while my fiancee has experienced this across 3 separate MT4G's, even though I had used 2 of those phones for over a week each and never experienced either issue once. I thought I was on to something when I had her try a completely new Google account on her 3rd phone, only to see the issue arise again after about 4 days. I'll be updating the thread I started with that info.
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Terry,
Are you absolutely, 100% certain you are not experiencing either one of the following issues:
Issue #11126 - http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=11126
Issue #13130 - http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=13130, which points back here to a thread on XDA, regarding the USB Debugging workaround...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826507
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It sounds similar but link #3 is not the one I referenced in the original post; it was not an XDA thread.
The first 2 links seem closely related to each other and likely my observation as well. I do not believe this is hardware related, nor do I believe a separate Google account will help - sorry. Of course I could easily be wrong.
Anyhow, I do have a problem that I plan to call TMOB about. It seems I cannot EVER send an MMS unless I am connected to a wifi access point. Perhaps it uses wifi perhaps that is only incidental but the correlation is 100%.
I mention that because as I was once again failing to MMS a picture today I tried to Restart. Surprisingly when the phone restarted it was in the 100% CPU utilization again. I did not research the problem as I'm familiar with the solution now. I cycled USB debugging and all was well. This was good because I wasn't home. This was surprising because no USB devices were part of this story at all (first time I've observed that scenario).
Just for clarity, I routinely get 15+ hours of life out of my device and have no complaints at all. I didn't mean to sound like I was complaining about battery life. I will mention that if you crank the brightness up to 100%, or even 80%, it does have a pretty significant impact on battery life. Moral: there are only so may electrons in those ions. Be a little circumspect where you spend them.
Anyhow, this is one more potentially useful data point in the ongoing battery saga.
I think more so, what I'm trying to do is get down to actual brass-tacks. Have you checked the list of running processes when this happens? The next time you see your battery running so low, can you launch Watchdog and take a screen shot of both your /init process and the /suspend process?
There's no "ghost in the machine" here. This isn't random. These are documented bugs that are 100% related to what you're experiencing.
It's very easy to associate events with one another. Just because it rained on Monday, doesn't mean Mondays make it rain. I'm totally not trying to be combative, but I am trying to be very specific and I am doing my best to avoid speculation.
I have a feeling if you look at either of those two processes the next time you see 100% CPU usage, you might find you're not alone. That's awesome you're getting that kind of battery life. It sounds just like my fiancee, who's getting 15 hours a day...except when /suspend runs out of control and she doesn't catch it in time.
ethutch said:
Anyhow, I do have a problem that I plan to call TMOB about. It seems I cannot EVER send an MMS unless I am connected to a wifi access point. Perhaps it uses wifi perhaps that is only incidental but the correlation is 100%.
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Get rid of the Telkila apn if it's still on your phone. I had the same problem. There's a few threads about it around here.
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[Q] Why does "Media" consume so much of my battery??

I have a Verizon Galaxy Note 3, stock ROM, non-rooted. Very pleased with it overall. The KitKat update seemed to somewhat diminish battery life, but it remained acceptable.
In analyzing this further, it seems that "Media" consistently consumes a lot of the battery power, for reasons unclear to me. I just updated to 4.4.4, hoping that this would change, but after a short period of time, it's back up there, as the following screen capture shows:
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According to the Phone's description, this includes:
Download manager
Media Storage
Downloads
I do have a 64gb MicroSD Card, Sandisk, which has never given me any problems. It is about half-full - mostly photos (copies of DSLR images from my Desktop), and several movies.
But why is "Media" using so many CPU cycles? And more importantly, how can I stop this? I would guess my battery life would be significantly improved if I could prevent "Media" from consuming so many CPU cycles.
It has been this way for months, and the screen capture above is quite typical for my phone.
Any insight appreciated.
DLCPhoto said:
I have a Verizon Galaxy Note 3, stock ROM, non-rooted. Very pleased with it overall. The KitKat update seemed to somewhat diminish battery life, but it remained acceptable.
In analyzing this further, it seems that "Media" consistently consumes a lot of the battery power, for reasons unclear to me. I just updated to 4.4.4, hoping that this would change, but after a short period of time, it's back up there, as the following screen capture shows:
According to the Phone's description, this includes:
Download manager
Media Storage
Downloads
I do have a 64gb MicroSD Card, Sandisk, which has never given me any problems. It is about half-full - mostly photos (copies of DSLR images from my Desktop), and several movies.
But why is "Media" using so many CPU cycles? And more importantly, how can I stop this? I would guess my battery life would be significantly improved if I could prevent "Media" from consuming so many CPU cycles.
It has been this way for months, and the screen capture above is quite typical for my phone.
Any insight appreciated.
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Could be a few things but I would back up your external sd and format it. Then copy what you want back over. If the card has errors or corrupt media then the system sometimes gets stuck scanning or rescanning the card. Is the phone a little warmer then normal up by the back camera?
RomsWell said:
Could be a few things but I would back up your external sd and format it. Then copy what you want back over. If the card has errors or corrupt media then the system sometimes gets stuck scanning or rescanning the card. Is the phone a little warmer then normal up by the back camera?
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Haven't noticed any warmth or other issues.
I don't know if it's relevant, but it seems that when the phone is not being used, its power consumption is almost zero. It seems that several hours can go by, and there's no change in battery power.
So there doesn't seem to be any ongoing processes chewing up the battery. When it's in use, it does seem to go down more quickly than I think it should.
Does this give any additional clue as to the cause?
I'll probably go ahead and reformat the card - I'm leaning toward going with FAT32 - any thoughts on this vs the exFAT it came with?
Thanks for the reply.
Update:
I copied all MicroSD files to my hard drive, used EaseUS Partition Manager to reformat to FAT32, and recopied back all files. Took a long time to recopy 30gb of data, but went fine, phone saw the card as if nothing had changed.
Unfortunately, Media still came up as the highest consumer of battery after a couple of hours.
I then went into Recovery Mode, wiped the Cache Partition, recharged the phone to reset battery stats, and am trying again.
Media is still the #1 consumer of battery power, although so far by not as high a percentage as before.
This all makes it seem as if there is a misbehaving app:
The Gallery App is built-in by Samsung, although it is not my primary image viewer. I use QuickPic for that.
For Video, I have MX Player installed, along with Amazon Instant Video.
Is there an App that will show which specific Apps are the source of what the phone is now simply showing as "Media"??
Is it possible that an App I turned off could cause this behavior? I don't see any obvious candidates in my list: Audible, CallerNameID, Verizon Cloud, Google Play Newsstand, Google+, Group Play, Hangouts, NFL Mobile, S Health, Samsung Link, Samsung Push Service, Samsung WatchON, Slacker, Softcard, Support & Protection, Verizon VoiceMail (I have mine shunted to Google Voicemail).
Any suggestions appreciated. It seems that I could be getting outstanding battery life, rather than just acceptable, if I can get rid of whatever is driving Media to consumer power!
Hopefully, a "Fiinal" update:
The problem never really went away.
I even tried switching to a Samsung (vs Sandisk) MicroSD card, but there was no significant impact.
I recently did the OTA update to Lollipop 5.0, and lo and behold, during my first full day of use, Media doesn't even show up on the list of Apps using the battery.
And I can now write to the SD Card with ES Explorer, which I really missed.
So it was a Kit-Kat thing, for some reason, probably related to the large number of files on my card.
DLCPhoto said:
Hopefully, a "Fiinal" update:
The problem never really went away.
I even tried switching to a Samsung (vs Sandisk) MicroSD card, but there was no significant impact.
I recently did the OTA update to Lollipop 5.0, and lo and behold, during my first full day of use, Media doesn't even show up on the list of Apps using the battery.
And I can now write to the SD Card with ES Explorer, which I really missed.
So it was a Kit-Kat thing, for some reason, probably related to the large number of files on my card.
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Thanks for making this thread! This is a problem that's been plaguing my phone for more than a year. I did everything you did and nothing ever fixed it, plus the slot would get hot. I've been using the same card in a different brand of phone and outside of the first scan, media has never been on my battery use list. Glad to hear that an update to Lollipop will fix the issue on my Note 3.

A unique attempt to conserve battery... Think this will work

Hey guys! I'm new to the z3 and have been getting some awesome battery life out of this phone so far.. But I'm looking to improve it..
So I found a way to counteract any perceived lag on they phoneafterr turning on reduced performance for battery life so I could keep it on all the time... I lowered the resolution.
So don't get me wrong so far I am absolutely loving the phone and the display is just jaw dropping so far.. I really like everything about it... Well other than maybe the camera... But I figured I would post some settings from nomone in case you guys were looking for a little extra life..
To lower the phone to 720p it's 720x1280 at 240 spy to keep things looking ok, though it might push some things left it doesn't break the phone.
I have mine set at 360 currently.. Phone runs smoother than any phone I've ever had lol.... It's cool to see but I will probably turn it back to 720 as that at least wasn't too gigantic of a feel and it looks like my screen has started to wiggle a bit.. I'll play with it lol..
But if you wanna try 360 it's 360x640 at 140 dpi, oddly things work better than at 720 here so keep that in mind.. These are still works in progress..
I just figured while I know changing the resolution might not help so much but to seriously lessen the load from the gpu. There is a battery option we have in stamina mode to reduce performance, and it seems to also lower the display framerate... Try to play a 60fps video lol you will see a message saying stamina has lowered the frame rate for playback due to stamina mode...
I'll see if I can handle this 360 resolution..
I lost 1 percent battery in the past 30 minutes with the screen on so I hope it's helping
Hope this helps you guys too.. I'm in a bad signal area so I'm truly trying everything I can.
I'm kinda thinking if I lower the resolution this way enough I may be able to create a 3 bit pixelated dos like power saving app for the phone.. That way each pixel would only need to use one base color per pixel to generate a usable phone messaging and calling experience.. Let me know if anyone is interested in that lol
How did you change the resolution
Nomone From the playstore... It's a root app.. Used it on stock. You'll need a new keyboard, xperias gets all kinda weird at any other resolution but the one the phone is set at... I use flesky.
After testing though, the battrry life difference was noticable only because of turning the power down through stamina, and then speed back up through resolution change... Think it helps as it also forces YouTube and more intensive apps to render out at a lower resolution.. Saving more power that way as your streaming a lower quality video sample as Max by default so you don't really have to think about it
Settings so far...
Guys what up my old nexus 6 charger works!!!! I love how fast my battery is charging now with the screen on aNd everything
Unfortunately I don't think I'll be giving up the speed of 480p for 1080 any time soon though... Which is really unfortunate and I'll have to do more tests to confirm the speed improvement. Anyways...
I removed the YouTube app, froze all T-Mobile apps, looked at wake lock and Jesus nuts hangouts you crazy... 2732 wake ups since my last charge an hour ago? I mean not for nothing but is it worse for the phone to be waking from deep sleep that frequently? That I don't know... But I'm curious.
Looking for a hangouts alternative that wasn't made for gingerbread!!! If anyone can help!!
I may be able to greenify it.... Need to remove it as a system app though.. Looking forward to that for the lulz.
But yeah 480p all things here greenified that can be, all bloat root frozen in case I need 'em back, YouTube replaced with lightweight alternative (was using too much battery, turbo tube seems to help but no background playback... Working on it) all stamina options on except image enhancement (because I like what it does to videos) screen brightness set a little below half way unless plugged in, bulkey keyboard replaced and removed, Zoe Ria wakelocks removed, HTC blink feed added for the lulz...
Tomorrow night I'll have a report for you guys on screen on time.. I'll try to use my phone as heavy as I can, I use 240gigs of data a month lol shouldn't be hard...
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Installed amplify and xposed into the device to help with battery today, dropped a few percent during installation.
Turned off double tap to wake to see if that helps too.

Nougat wreaking havoc on your battery? Solutions...

Welcome to Nougat prison.
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If you're reading this, you're probably regretting taking the latest OTA update.
It seems that Google hasn't been so kind to our batteries this time around, and with no root is in sight (thanks AT&T), our likelihood of any real battery life improvements is severely limited. Here are a few tips which may help remediate the situation.
Don't drop the soap...
Suggestion 1.) Reset app preferences. This may help to sort out some battery draining bugs:
Navigate to Settings>General>Apps>(dropdown)>Reset app preferences
Suggestion 2.) Disable all AT&T & LG bloatware. Less apps to run = less potential battery drain:
Navigate to Settings>General>Apps> disable everything you don't need
Suggestion 3.) Force GPU rendering. This will take some load off of the CPU which is more power-hungry than the GPU:
Navigate to Settings>General>Developer Options>Force GPU Rendreing>On
Suggestion 4.) Disable battery optimizations for all Bluetooth-related entries, Nougat is known to play nasty with Bluetooth:
Navigate to Settings>General>Battery & Power Saving>Usage>Ignore Optimizations
Suggestion 5.) Turn off IZAT low power location estimation. Contrary to it's description - this will actually actively use Wi-Fi for location services when your GPS is off. This feature is a no-go for battery life:
Navigate to Settings>General>Location>Low power location estimation>Off
Suggestion 6.) Disable Wi-Fi when screen is off, this will mitigate network drain while your phone is idle:
Navigate to Settings>Networks>Wi-Fi>(dropdown)>Advanced Wi-Fi>Keep Wi-Fi on when screen is off>No
Suggestion 7.) Disable Enhanced LTE services. You will lose HD call audio, however this feature is known to cause excessive battery usage on the AT&T network:
Navigate to Settings>Networks>More>Enhanced LTE Services>Off
Suggestion 8.) Install Greenify and Greenify pretty much everything, including system apps. Make sure you connect the phone to your PC, enable USB debugging and run the ADB commands to enable aggressive doze. It is still far better than Nougat's built-in doze.
Suggestion 9.) Pray. Jesus may not save your battery, but doing anything rather than using your phone may help the battery last longer... :angel:
Or just do a factory reset and solve a lot of the issues. I don't have the battery drain I always do a factory reset after an OTA for 2 reasons 1 it's recommended 2 it solves the optimization of apps because when changing operating systems it doesn't do a smooth transition and usually leaves behind some of the old system cache that can only be removed by factory reset
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krazyace35 said:
Or just do a factory reset and solve a lot of the issues. I don't have the battery drain I always do a factory reset after an OTA for 2 reasons 1 it's recommended 2 it solves the optimization of apps because when changing operating systems it doesn't do a smooth transition and usually leaves behind some of the old system cache that can only be removed by factory reset
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Not everyone wants to do a factory reset. It can be a big pain losing data and restoring all your apps one by one. If course this wouldn't be a problem at all if we had root, because we could use a custom recovery and clear the system cache manually.
Idle drain vs SOT before:
Idle drain vs SOT after:
Factory reset is the only way to go, does wonders for the phone
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Factory reset is the only way to go, does wonders for the phone
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I reset my phone 4 times two different ways. I think I narrowed it down to Android Wear. Will know today. Because this sucks.
Sobr0801 said:
I reset my phone 4 times two different ways. I think I narrowed it down to Android Wear. Will know today. Because this sucks.
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So pretty much anything I install kills the battery that runs in the back ground.
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So pretty much anything I install kills the battery that runs in the back ground.
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Yup, I've pretty much figured out this phone. Carrier models (especially AT&T's) really suck because of background apps you can't disable without root (which is also likely impossible unless they'd release a .TOT/ .KDZ to be examined for root possibility). Additional installed apps drain the battery to varying degrees, especially with Nougat. Compounding everything, this phone's battery life is anywhere from 2/3 to 1/2 as efficient while using mobile data/ especially with a low mobile signal. Factory resets do nothing to fix these problems. Hopefully 7.1.2 or 8.0 will eventually be signed and distributed for us, otherwise this phone seems like a lost cause.
Strange thing it's it now works. I pretty much uninstalled everything. Then I slowly reinstalled the things I wanted slowly, over weeks. Even android wear. But there are things that still will crush the battery life. Either way it seems normal now.
PHYCLOPSH said:
Welcome to Nougat prison.
Suggestion 9.) Pray. Jesus may not save your battery, but doing anything rather than using your phone may help the battery last longer... :angel:
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I am awaiting my g6 and was curious to know the battery life , came from real life review battery standby drain on g6 to here via link. This made me lol . Thanks for the other suggestions as well , will try them out.
Thank you for this! Ever since getting this phone (Just over a year ago), the ONE THING that has bugged me is the immediate and apparent horrible battery life! I went through this and did as much as I could, and noticed an immediate improvement. Also has helped with the heat, it would get a worrying level of hot. One thing I wasn't able to figure out was this, as I couldn't find it where you indicated in settings.
PHYCLOPSH said:
Suggestion 3.) Force GPU rendering. This will take some load off of the CPU which is more power-hungry than the GPU:
Navigate to Settings>General>Developer Options>Force GPU Rendreing>On
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Thanks again!
JMTurner1981 said:
Thank you for this! Ever since getting this phone (Just over a year ago), the ONE THING that has bugged me is the immediate and apparent horrible battery life! I went through this and did as much as I could, and noticed an immediate improvement. Also has helped with the heat, it would get a worrying level of hot. One thing I wasn't able to figure out was this, as I couldn't find it where you indicated in settings.
Thanks again!
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You need to activate the Developer Options. To do that simply navigate to (assuming to are on G5 LG-H820, Android v.7):
Settings>General>About Phone>Software info
Now start tapping on "Build number" till you get the message "You are now a developer".
Developer Options will appear in:
Settings>General>Developer Options

Huge battery consumption, help needed

Hi all,
I am very satisfied with my device except for the battery life. I always had like 3-4 hours SOT. I was not happy but it was OK.
Lately I started charging the device every day after work (I would come home with dead phone after only 8-9 hours of it being unplugged).
So I thought the battery is defective, I must change it... and I did change it yesterday. The thing is that even the new battery behaves almost the same. It approved somewhat and now I will return home with 10% battery instead of dead phone 1 hour ago. But still the battery is terrible...
Can anyone help me, share some advice on how to improve it? I have disabled many software (even facebook), disabled location... did everything I could think of.
I am thinking some app is drawing the juice but cannot put my finger on any of them.
Some screenshots are attached that might help with your tips/advices.
Thanks!
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Are you rooted? On nougat? If so get background restrictor APK here on XDA and kill background apps and tasks so they can't run if you do not open them. Lower screen brightness. Install kernel auditor and shut off cores 4 and 8.
ljesh said:
Hi all,
I am very satisfied with my device except for the battery life. I always had like 3-4 hours SOT. I was not happy but it was OK.
Lately I started charging the device every day after work (I would come home with dead phone after only 8-9 hours of it being unplugged).
So I thought the battery is defective, I must change it... and I did change it yesterday. The thing is that even the new battery behaves almost the same. It approved somewhat and now I will return home with 10% battery instead of dead phone 1 hour ago. But still the battery is terrible...
Can anyone help me, share some advice on how to improve it? I have disabled many software (even facebook), disabled location... did everything I could think of.
I am thinking some app is drawing the juice but cannot put my finger on any of them.
Some screenshots are attached that might help with your tips/advices.
Thanks!
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uninstall chrome. Then try accubattery (better bcause after android 7, they join all in android system to mask each app consumption. If after this you still can't find out where's the problem, start the phone in "safe mode". Even the consumption is better in this mode you must do a full wipe in recovery mode (vol up+power+home) and after this, reinstall one app each time and see after reinstall the second one and so on until you find out in which app is draining the battery
If you want you can starting by disabling background data in settings but I think isn't the clearer way to find out
This is going to surprise you.
I've had this phone for years and I've tried everything - and the BEST result is when you DON'T DO ANYTHING except disable Facebook and Instagram, and any Google Apps you don't use.
Do not tamper with anything else.
I figure that Samsung tunes this phone so tightly that if you leave it alone it operates as it should.
Anytime I disabled anything else, battery life suddenly and drastically reduced.
The phones runtime software kicks in and if you have disabled something it checks routinely, it will keep the phone awake constantly looking for a ping back from that process.
I just went through the whole process again meticulously, App by App.
Also DO NOT enhanced messaging OR the device antivirus. If you have, you must reset and then train yourself not to engage these too regardless of how hard The phone tries to persuade you!
Then - the battery life becomes like a normal phone which means you'll still need to charge everyday but it will take you through a full heavy day... And this is fantastic!
Honestly try it and you'll see what I mean. The S6 edge plus is so finely tuned, anything you block will start a feedback loop.
I had similiar problems , the way i fixed it, i disabled/uninstalled all samsung applications what i dont use, i disabled/uninstalled all google applications what i dont use. Cold weather (like -20C) will affect the battery life too.
Disable / uninstall apps you dont need. That helped me a lot and got even more battery life while at stock nougat rom with all updates installed.
try wiping cache from recovery and reboot your phone.
I hope this helps you

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