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I played with nexus s

I went to best buy and actually played with a nexus s for a while. All I need to say is wow. Its a really incredible phone if anyone has any questions ask I can tell u anytthing concerning the phone.
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Is the GUI really responsive as Google claims to be?

What are missed call/message/etc alert like without the tackball?

Is scrolling in the browser accelerated? Any choppiness at all like froyo browser at this forum?

That's all fine and good, but there is no way I can get excited when i'm reading things like this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-officially-announces-tegra-2-dual-core-optimus-2x
I'm not upgrading with dual core literally right around the corner. The only way I'll pry Nexus One out of my hand is with a true upgrade.
To quote AC "It's a new era, folks." and the NS didn't make it...

Old MuckenMire said:
That's all fine and good, but there is no way I can get excited when i'm reading things like this:
http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-officially-announces-tegra-2-dual-core-optimus-2x
I'm not upgrading with dual core literally right around the corner. The only way I'll pry Nexus One out of my hand is with a true upgrade.
To quote AC "It's a new era, folks." and the NS didn't make it...
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I tend to agree with you, but I'm still going to Best Buy tomorrow to play with the Nexus S and see how Gingerbread performs. The stores near me have around 35 in stock each. I hope it doesn't perform really well, it might cause my credit card to slip out of my wallet accidentally.

Was the curve screen prominent? What difference did you see in the touchscreen?

I wonder if the Nexus One will still get updates after Gingerbread is released now that the Nexus S is on the scene.

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I think it will. Nexus One specs are still meeting or exceeding Android phones today. Plus not every new phone in 2011 will be dual core.
Now will it run every app? That remains to be seen. Already we're not going to get the full Google Maps experience.

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Was the curve screen prominent? What difference did you see in the touchscreen?
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This and is it curved only in one direction or it's totally caved in? Coz I suppose putting on a screen protector might not be easy with a caved in screen. You can't use a flat screen protector in that case unless they make the protector curved as well.

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This and is it curved only in one direction or it's totally caved in? Coz I suppose putting on a screen protector might not be easy with a caved in screen. You can't use a flat screen protector in that case unless they make the protector curved as well.
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It's only curved lengthwise: http://www.anandtech.com/show/4059/nexus-s-and-android-23-review-gingerbread-for-the-holidays

How durable does the screen feel. I read somewhere Gorilla Glass couldn't make a cover that would work on it. Better yet if someone could key the crap out of a demo and report back that'd be awsome too.

The glass is flat and smooth and actually felt like it was scratch resistent
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Boot up time is less than 5 seconds and it is more responsive and faster than my nexus one being overclocked
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jdmoore81 said:
Boot up time is less than 5 seconds and it is more responsive and faster than my nexus one being overclocked
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you sure? i cannot believe that bootup will take 5 sec after installing some apps. hell i can't even believe it'll take 5 seconds without any 3rd party app...
and my definition if bootup is: homescreen is setup and ready to go. because aufter seing the homescreen it'll still load a lot of stuff in the backgroud, therefore it's important to count in the time until you can really use the device.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
you sure? i cannot believe that bootup will take 5 sec after installing some apps. hell i can't even believe it'll take 5 seconds without any 3rd party app...
and my definition if bootup is: homescreen is setup and ready to go. because aufter seing the homescreen it'll still load a lot of stuff in the backgroud, therefore it's important to count in the time until you can really use the device.
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There are numerous videos displaying the boot speed of gingie...
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You made feel like going to buy one now..
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Lol 5 second bootup is insane, 5 seconds is taken to load spl, radio and the start the sysinit. Idk how he got 5 second bootup. Maybe from the bootanimation?

Does the phone have swype?

Phone Creeks

does anyone elses N4 creek around the bottom let side under the sim tray all the way to the bottom of the phone? And am i the only one that thinks the power button is kinda annoying and poor build?

motaman76 said:
does anyone elses N4 creek around the bottom let side under the sim tray all the way to the bottom of the phone? And am i the only one that thinks the power button is kinda annoying and poor build?
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My phone doesn't creek but there's another thread about a few people who have phones that creek. My power button and build quality seem solid.

Thanks. I think i am going to call google and get a replacement

motaman76 said:
does anyone elses N4 creek around the bottom let side under the sim tray all the way to the bottom of the phone? And am i the only one that thinks the power button is kinda annoying and poor build?
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My thread got sent to the Q&A but yeah. I have that issue and the screen randomly turning on.
I get an error during the replacement processor
"You are trying to change the Google account used for this transaction. Please sign out and retry the transaction without changing the account."
Hope you have better luck.

Already have the new phone on its way. My replacement process was done without any issue. Sorry to hear yours is not going as well.

*creak
Hate to be that guy but it had to be done.
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My power button feels very solid and I like how it sticks out more than the GNEX. Also, I don't think it will be prone to eventual wear (and stop working) like the GNEX did. Feels solid man.

kcls said:
*creak
Hate to be that guy but it had to be done.
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I can stop picturing water leaking from their devices.
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This phone on the bottom is creak central man I hate to say it but I may stick with my sg3. The whole reason I got this phone because I was praying for no creaks I drove to NY to get this phone took me an hour drive anyways I'm actually hoping the bumper might solve this problem but I might just sell mines the touch sensitivity is pretty weak as well. But in the Context of a 350 dollar phone I'd rate it pretty godly But damn it creaks worst then a TV remote exchanging it will do nothing only slow the problem down
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I have the creaking in the bottom left as well. I'm wondering if this has something to do with the majority of cracking happening in that area near the speaker grill.
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Is it worth the risk ?

Hey guys...this is my first post in here, so please go easy on me. So, i have been in love with The nexus 7 since the day it was released. I have seen all kind of videos/reviews and thought that it is a perfect fit for me. But what i'm scared about is the durability of Nexus 7's screen. I have been hovering over Xda and specially in the Nexus 7 forum and found a lot of criticism regarding its screen cracks and poor build quality.
The thing is I live in Bangladesh, where i wont be able to enjoy any warranties or guarantees(actually I will get a one-day replacement warranty and that's it). Also, it is highly likely that i wont find the necessary equipment to fix it myself. I found only a single case cover for the Nexus which is the poetic brand slimline(Is that any good ? ). Nexus 7 16Gb version costs around $320 here
All this makes me doubt to purchase the awesome gadget and rather settle for the sub-standard Galaxy tab 2 7.0 3G which costs around the same.
But then again...i feel like I wont be able to happily enjoy any other set as i have been in love with Nexus 7 for the last 6 months. So, as u guys can seen that i'm real in pickle. So any advice will go a long way for me. Is Nexus 7 really worth the risk ?
Thanks.

Just don't drop it, any screen can crack that way. Also get a screen protector, the glass does scratch relatively easy.

Fun story. I got an 8gb nexus from the first batch that were made. But I don't currently live in the US, so I ran a huge gamble by ordering one and having my family send it out to me in Asia. Worked *perfectly* until I went back to the US for Thanksgiving. Then, somehow, I blew out the speaker. I was able to get in touch with Google and get it swapped out in under a week, returned to Asia with my new 8GB (no magic upgrade, drat) and we've been happy ever since.
I don't think it's really any risk. The majority who complain about the nexus are a minority of the owners.

Also keep in mind you will hear more horror stories from pissed off owners than stories of folks reporting zero issues
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nisamtetreb said:
Just don't drop it, any screen can crack that way. Also get a screen protector, the glass does scratch relatively easy.
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Well...yeah i do know that but still scared to find cracked screen appearing without any reason.
Sharpen3d said:
Fun story. I got an 8gb nexus from the first batch that were made. But I don't currently live in the US, so I ran a huge gamble by ordering one and having my family send it out to me in Asia. Worked *perfectly* until I went back to the US for Thanksgiving. Then, somehow, I blew out the speaker. I was able to get in touch with Google and get it swapped out in under a week, returned to Asia with my new 8GB (no magic upgrade, drat) and we've been happy ever since.
I don't think it's really any risk. The majority who complain about the nexus are a minority of the owners.
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Aah how I wish I could have that opportunity of returning it, if any problem arises. Thank for sharing your story
magiconthetire said:
Also keep in mind you will hear more horror stories from pissed off owners than stories of folks reporting zero issues
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Well that is true and reassuring.

I'd say go for it. As for screen cracking for "no reason", I always wonder just how much truth there is to those stories. I've been perfectly happy with my nexus 7, and it has none of the "so common" problems.
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95Z28 said:
I'd say go for it. As for screen cracking for "no reason", I always wonder just how much truth there is to those stories. I've been perfectly happy with my nexus 7, and it has none of the "so common" problems.
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+1
My friend got his 16gig N7 the day it came out and has had zero hardware issues with it. Gotta give credit to magiconthetire as well, he hit the nail on the head. When things go wrong it's the end of the world. But when things go right, you won't even know anything is happening at all.
Also I picked up the Poetic Slim case you mentioned and I really like it. The only draw back is how close the case comes to the bezel on the edges of the screen; if you have big hands or don't hit the bottom navigation bar or top notification bar at the right angle...the case sort of gets in the way. My solution to that is using a stylus for more accurate precision. The stylus also makes typing significantly easier, especially if you use gesture typing such as Swype, SwiftKey Flow, etc.

OP if you know someone you trust in Europe, USA, or even Australia. Get them to buy the tablet for you and ship it out to you. Even with shipping it will be a lot less than $320, if it breaks for something that is under warranty send it back to them and they can return it for repairs.
Cheers Danny

Vepaot said:
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My friend got his 16gig N7 the day it came out and has had zero hardware issues with it. Gotta give credit to magiconthetire as well, he hit the nail on the head. When things go wrong it's the end of the world. But when things go right, you won't even know anything is happening at all.
Also I picked up the Poetic Slim case you mentioned and I really like it. The only draw back is how close the case comes to the bezel on the edges of the screen; if you have big hands or don't hit the bottom navigation bar or top notification bar at the right angle...the case sort of gets in the way. My solution to that is using a stylus for more accurate precision. The stylus also makes typing significantly easier, especially if you use gesture typing such as Swype, SwiftKey Flow, etc.
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Thanks. Could u tell me a bit more about the case. I have read some reviews and found out that their cover wears a bit after a couple of weeks. Is that true and about the stylus.....could u kindly recommend me one ? Thanks again
toidimaet said:
OP if you know someone you trust in Europe, USA, or even Australia. Get them to buy the tablet for you and ship it out to you. Even with shipping it will be a lot less than $320, if it breaks for something that is under warranty send it back to them and they can return it for repairs.
Cheers Danny
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Sadly, not a single person is willing to take that minute hassle.

Excellent protection: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970566

Farhad1909 said:
Thanks. Could u tell me a bit more about the case. I have read some reviews and found out that their cover wears a bit after a couple of weeks. Is that true and about the stylus.....could u kindly recommend me one ? Thanks again
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I've only had mine for a couple of weeks and so far no issues here. This is under pretty heavy use as well, as I take my Nexus 7 with me everywhere that I go. The case works really well though, it has a snug fit on the N7 so it doesn't move around inside of it at all, the smart cover that turns the screen on when you open the flap back has worked flawlessly, the hand strap for the back is really nice for using it in portrait mode while laying in bed or for just holding it up during prolonged periods, and the landscape stand is a little tricky to figure out at fist...but works just fine once you figure it out. I'd recommend some kind of sound toggle app for your notification bar as well, because the case does make it a bit of a pain to reach the physical buttons. But that's not really Poetic's fault, the way the buttons angle down with the curve of the backside of the tablet makes them kind of annoying for any case that doesn't have the same slope on it.
As far as stylus' go, I heard good things about this one and it was still fairly cheap...I just got it in the mail a couple of days ago but so far, so good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MOHLVC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00

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Excellent protection: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1970566
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The thing is i need to wait for 3-4 months to receive any accessories for the nexus 7. So, meanwhile i need to live with the poetic brand as its the only one around.
Vepaot said:
I've only had mine for a couple of weeks and so far no issues here. This is under pretty heavy use as well, as I take my Nexus 7 with me everywhere that I go. The case works really well though, it has a snug fit on the N7 so it doesn't move around inside of it at all, the smart cover that turns the screen on when you open the flap back has worked flawlessly, the hand strap for the back is really nice for using it in portrait mode while laying in bed or for just holding it up during prolonged periods, and the landscape stand is a little tricky to figure out at fist...but works just fine once you figure it out. I'd recommend some kind of sound toggle app for your notification bar as well, because the case does make it a bit of a pain to reach the physical buttons. But that's not really Poetic's fault, the way the buttons angle down with the curve of the backside of the tablet makes them kind of annoying for any case that doesn't have the same slope on it.
As far as stylus' go, I heard good things about this one and it was still fairly cheap...I just got it in the mail a couple of days ago but so far, so good:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008MOHLVC/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
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Wow that was more then helpful. Thanks a lot.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D2POAS/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
This is the case I purchased. Sounds about the same as the poetic, but also includes a good screen protector.
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I have dropped mine a few times from different heights on different surfaces and its fine. But if you drop it right it will probably shatter, just get a case. Something like this if you are really clumsy.
http://www.amazon.com/Bobj-Rugged-C...3SQAI9BQY42F6&qid=1355563353&s=generic&sr=1-6
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Asus have international warranty for it.
Beamed from my Maguro.

If you ever want to buy a case throughout the internet I'd be more than happy to help a fellow owner out and re-ship to you!

I don't want to persuade you not to get one because I love the n7 and think everyone should have one, but i just broke my second one. My daughter dropped the first one and the corner of the screen shattered. I didn't have insurance because I've never dropped or lost a phone or laptop or anything, so it cost full price to replace it.
I had the second one in my back pocket, bent down, and screwed up the screen. My pants aren't tight but my butt put a little bit of leverage on the middle of the screen and broke it. When I turned it on later, the screen has a discolored line through it and a pattern of random lines on each side and no normal picture. The screen glass didn't crack, but the screen internals must have. I paid $50 for insurance so I hope it will be replaced with no hassle.
Long story short, I'll never use an n7 without a protective case again, and I've never used a case on any device.

Thanks a lot guys....I have taken all the advice into consideration and have found a satisfying solution. Gonna wait three months and buy through a friend in US.
Edit : How can I close the thread ?

Farhad1909 said:
Thanks a lot guys....I have taken all the advice into consideration and have found a satisfying solution. Gonna wait three months and buy through a friend in US.
Edit : How can I close the thread ?
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The thread will close its self or help some one else ..
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My journey back to the one

So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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ridearoundsolo said:
So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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Why exchange the one in the first place?

Why did you exchange it the first time?
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Some must take that journey of learning to realise that what what one had is better than what one must have but the grass is never greener on the other side

ridearoundsolo said:
So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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Same adventure for me hahahaah

tonypello said:
Same adventure for me hahahaah
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I'm actually thinking about returning my htc one. For the fact that it gets too hot in the hand, and the power button and vol buttons are a bit akward for daily use. did you get the heating issue as well?

ridearoundsolo said:
So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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Im sorry that you had a bad device experience with the S4. But I have to tell you, the S4 is far and away from laggy at all. Even in stock form. Several people that I know and many more on this site would tell you differently. I am going to say that either an app that you use caused the lagg, or the phone was a lemon. Heck, I have my S4 packed to the gills with apps and it is under clocked as well. And I get zero lagg.
Now, as far as the iPhone is concerned, I do not blame you in the least for getting rid of it. The company that I work for gave me an iPhone. After using it for a couple of months. I practically ready to smash it. So, I convinced them to purchase me an S4. For now and as far as a phone is concerned, I could not be happier.
Regardles the One seems as though it is a good phone. There are two things stopping me from owning it. This one is a big one. It is not on the Verizon network. And two, it does not have a micro SD card slot.
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I was an iPhone user some time back, then I got my first Android the Nexus One... (also made by htc)
never going back to stupid iOS hehehe
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sasoq said:
I'm actually thinking about returning my htc one. For the fact that it gets too hot in the hand, and the power button and vol buttons are a bit akward for daily use. did you get the heating issue as well?
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Not sure what awkward would mean, but the one heats just as any phone does, but the aluminum traps it and absorbs it more than say, plastic. That's not to say the phone itself is overheating, meaning for ex, u have a naturally 1.1ghz phone overclocked to 1.8ghz, that heat you're feeling is it screaming for it's life.
The heat on the one is just due to the fact it's aluminum, nothibg to panic about, I PROMISE YOU.
Why don't you get a case? Because you won't be able to feel it and well, as beautiful as it is, and as the case for all smartphones, drop it and it's gone.
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The One feels hotter because the aluminum body conducts heat much better than plastic does. This is a GOOD thing. It means the phone cools off much faster when things get hot.

The power button is awkward to push but nothing that make me thing of using some crappy iPhone or the S4
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Also any quad core phone will get hot

This is seriously the best phone on the market but yea I should have never left, I have unlimited data on my T-Mobile line but apple wouldnt let me use it the way I want so the iPhone had to go
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ridearoundsolo said:
So I made a mistake by exchanging my first one for a s4 what a bust that was that phone was full of lag no matter how much stuff I disabled and turned off and then I did I dug myself a bigger hole by exchanging for an iPhone 5 that was an even bigger mistake I don't even want to go there why that i**** was driving me crazy but I'm happy to be back here what a relief
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always welcome u back to the ONE.. :good::good::good::good::good::good::good:

Now what was the lesson learned??? Lol welcome back.
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Oh yea so the gaming is pretty wack on ios if u have a 5 don't let the large library fool u, the majority of the games don't even fill the screen and havnt seen an update for years so that's a joke
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jachar said:
I was an iPhone user some time back, then I got my first Android the Nexus One... (also made by htc)
never going back to stupid iOS hehehe
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+1 Was in the very same boat..:fingers-crossed:

I think I'm the only one that likes the power button on the top of the phone. I think power buttons on the side of the phone just don't belong. Looks stupid to me. I'd rather re-adjust the phone in my hand to lock it then have it on the side.
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As above, "hello" threads or "Samsung sucks" threads aren't allowed. Closed

So disappointed...

I went to Verizon to go buy the all new HTC one! I then saw the phone and its horrible lower bezel. I just can't believe how much wasted space is on the bottom of the phone. Thanks a lot HTC. Total let down and waste of a huge portion of the phone.

stu5797 said:
I went to Verizon to go buy the all new HTC one! I then saw the phone and its horrible lower bezel. I just can't believe how much wasted space is on the bottom of the phone. Thanks a lot HTC. Total let down and waste of a huge portion of the phone.
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I have reserved it, but am also unsure with this bezel thing.
They could have included those touch buttons instead of on screen buttons and would have extended the usable space.

brar.arsh said:
I have reserved it, but am also unsure with this bezel thing.
They could have included those touch buttons instead of on screen buttons and would have extended the usable space.
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I'm hoping that its still capacitive and that devs will be able to turn it usable like they did with the logo on the bar on the M7

brar.arsh said:
I have reserved it, but am also unsure with this bezel thing.
They could have included those touch buttons instead of on screen buttons and would have extended the usable space.
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If they would have included those touch buttons I would be enjoying the phone right now.

brar.arsh said:
I have reserved it, but am also unsure with this bezel thing.
They could have included those touch buttons instead of on screen buttons and would have extended the usable space.
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Someone mentioned that the bezel is there for the boom sound to work. Guess it's some kind of hardware under the bezel.
Viper DNA

EtherealRemnant said:
I'm hoping that its still capacitive and that devs will be able to turn it usable like they did with the logo on the bar on the M7
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I dont think so, Logo thing happened only because there were two capacitive buttons on each side of logo, so they could use the Capacitive strip.
Not in this case.

Yea..that's a terrible look. It has a speaker up top that also includes a camera and leds with a smaller bezel.
IMO the g2 has the design nailed. This is clunky looking. The onscreen buttons look outta place
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I have the phone and I hate the bezel. So much wasted space... I'll get use to it.
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It's not that it looked clunky it just looked wrong. So much empty valuable space. The phone could be so great but it's a disaster

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It's not that it looked clunky it just looked wrong. So much empty valuable space. The phone could be so great but it's a disaster
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I have the phone in hand and it is annoying but the rest of the phone is so gorgeous I am looking past it. I am also assuming that soon the phone will be rooted and we can fully take advantage of immersive mode on kit kat. It does seem like a waste though but the rest of the phone great.

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It's not that it looked clunky it just looked wrong. So much empty valuable space. The phone could be so great but it's a disaster
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Looks plenty clunky to me. A speaker, half inch of black with a logo, nav buttons that look outta place overlapping things (blinkfeed ie) then the typical apps on the dock..,may have to go without apps on the dock but then it will look like early iterations of Sense
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That half inch of black with their logo cost them a customer in me and probably anyone else that truly enjoys the art of phones. I am still so pissed after seeing this phone.

Wait, it doesn't have immersion mode?
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Holy **** don't buy it then. Lol. Nobody is forcing u too. Hey, I need one of u guys on Verizon try a ATT SIM in it and see if it gets hspa+ please. The og one only got edge, and the max gets hspa+, so u can see y I'm concerned. Thanks.
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Why is this thread even open if Ur not getting the phone don't waste forum space
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ITT: OP whining about a bezel on a phone he doesnt have to buy.

General sections are for news/tips/tricks/guides/howtos.. not really for discussing cosmetic preferences of phones you don't own.
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