Why the panicked frenzy for Lollipop? - G 2014 General

Okay folks, I am as hardcore a geek as anyone else in here, I am certain of that. I am looking forward to Lollipop, and it is certainly a nice design and very pleasing to the eyes... but I don't quite understand why everyone is getting so completely tied up and impatient about it having not arrived, yet. I've used it on my 1st gen Moto G (XT1032) and yeah - it looks VERY nice... but... so what? What tangible and real benefits does it offer over what you all have now? I'm sorry - I am either missing something HUGE, or (which is more likely to be the real issue), we just have an internet of impatient geeks who only desire it BECAUSE it is new and fresh.
My first instincts were these: "Oh wow, it's very nice... but it's not THAT amazing... it's just Android with a new look and a few new options - I can't *quite* see what all the impatience and fuss is about. "
Let me reiterate again; Lollipop is GREAT, but then, so is chocolate, and once you've eaten a bar, your desire tends to diminish, somewhat. Yeah... it's a new OS... but... ah, I dunno... just a lot of hoo haa as usual. I am *not* saying it is not a great OS, I am saying that the hype VASTLY VASTLY exaggerates one's sense of expectation (as I knew it would), and... well... don't get HUGELY excited - it's just Android how it always should have been.
No big deal - don't lose any sleep over it - and don't work yourselves into an impatience rage - it's SO not worth that, with all honesty.
Summary: Lollipop is a new version of Android. If you get excited beyond the point of calm, content, child-like anticipation, you're working yourself up for no reason.
That is all. Have a lovely day.

glossywhite said:
Okay folks, I am as hardcore a geek as anyone else in here, I am certain of that. I am looking forward to Lollipop, and it is certainly a nice design and very pleasing to the eyes... but I don't quite understand why everyone is getting so completely tied up and impatient about it having not arrived, yet. I've used it on my 1st gen Moto G (XT1032) and yeah - it looks VERY nice... but... so what? What tangible and real benefits does it offer over what you all have now? I'm sorry - I am either missing something HUGE, or (which is more likely to be the real issue), we just have an internet of impatient geeks who only desire it BECAUSE it is new and fresh.
My first instincts were these: "Oh wow, it's very nice... but it's not THAT amazing... it's just Android with a new look and a few new options - I can't *quite* see what all the impatience and fuss is about. "
Let me reiterate again; Lollipop is GREAT, but then, so is chocolate, and once you've eaten a bar, your desire tends to diminish, somewhat. Yeah... it's a new OS... but... ah, I dunno... just a lot of hoo haa as usual. I am *not* saying it is not a great OS, I am saying that the hype VASTLY VASTLY exaggerates one's sense of expectation (as I knew it would), and... well... don't get HUGELY excited - it's just Android how it always should have been.
No big deal - don't lose any sleep over it - and don't work yourselves into an impatience rage - it's SO not worth that, with all honesty.
Summary: Lollipop is a new version of Android. If you get excited beyond the point of calm, content, child-like anticipation, you're working yourself up for no reason.
That is all. Have a lovely day.
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Never seen anyone wanting it so badly as you've described... They're just trying innovative methods to play around with their device...
This doesn't mean that some GURU should create a thread separately to tell people what they already know...
However, nice to see people like you caring so much about the community... But the thread has no purpose to serve...
Have a great day... :thumbup:
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vinaybaboo said:
Never seen anyone wanting it so badly as you've described... They're just trying innovative methods to play around with their device...
This doesn't mean that some GURU should create a thread separately to tell people what they already know...
However, nice to see people like you caring so much about the community... But the thread has no purpose to serve...
Have a great day... :thumbup:
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Not every thread has to have a black and white "purpose" - it's merely my ponderings over the situation - as a human thing - we all have wonderings and thoughts, and yes - MANY people are getting in a real state over this release, and I see no reason for it. That's all, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, in a calm, balanced manner.
PS: I am not a "guru", nor do I make any such pretense.

glossywhite said:
Not every thread has to have a black and white "purpose" - it's merely my ponderings over the situation - as a human thing - we all have wonderings and thoughts, and yes - MANY people are getting in a real state over this release, and I see no reason for it. That's all, and I just wanted to share my thoughts on the matter, in a calm, balanced manner.
PS: I am not a "guru", nor do I make any such pretense.
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Every community needs people like us, buddy... We build this.
Being an internal employee I've been using the Lollipop over three weeks now... I personally feel that the memory management and battery has taken a huge leap here... So the effort put on this version is HUGE... They've done a pretty decent job...
Peace... :beer:
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vinaybaboo said:
Every community needs people like us, buddy... We build this.
Being an internal employee I've been using the Lollipop over three weeks now... I personally feel that the memory management and battery has taken a huge leap here... So the effort put on this version is HUGE... They've done a pretty decent job...
Peace... :beer:
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Thank you for your kindness and peaceful response. May God bless you my friend

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your reactions just affirm the general mood in XDA - stressful and irrational.
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Goodnesss me mate !!
If people are excited so much about the new update, let them be.
I can say for sure, that I'am sure as hell excited, about it. And am eagerly awaiting for it, VERY. MUCH. EAGERLY.
And I check the forums every.single.day.
And yeah Im an ''geek'' too.
But theres no need to blast no about it if the community is excited about it
Sure, you,ve got the KK but the atmosphere shown here on XDA ( excitement), is whats made it to, what it is today
No offence mate
Peace

Dont see a big objective of this thread.
Members,
Please dont open a thread to express your opinions. I hope you understand that XDA has a large number of users and we might end up with so many number of threads with opinions of everything visible which would be mostly useless for the others. NOT THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMUNITY
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dissapointed with fascinate

I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
Relax bro, all good things will come. I was able to mod my phone a lot because these devs are putting all they can into our phone's development.
We already have lag fixes, OC kernels, debloating tutorials, backlight mods, standard unlocking screens, etcetc. Not to mention plenty of themes, apps, and other cool things.
Just relax and take a breather. We got froyo on the way and developers are waiting for that so they can really unleash the beast.
Sent from my Fascinate using the official XDA Forum App.
WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.
jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I am very very very very very very happy with it. Only lacking .gif support in the browser. But that's what 2.2 is for.
good day. From the Fascinate sporting the XDA app.
if you want to customize your phone learn to make apps,themes, and what not your self.you can't customize your phone if you don't put effort into it. don't complain if you won't contribute and work at it
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mackeydesigns said:
WTF do you need that wasn't described in Post #2?
Don't say Froyo, because that's something EVERYONE wants. My phone does everything I want it to at a blazing speed, maybe you're just lazy and don't look into things deeper. IDK.
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Exactly. Or phones are more than capable, and this is without much overclocking and froyo. My phone is ridiculously fast and stable, and its one hell of a looker
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jt1134 said:
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Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.
Dynomike1 said:
Hahahaha <wipes tears>
I'm just happy to not have Bing. I'd let the devs have a round /w my wife for that.
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...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)
Actually, there are devs but they don't have the froyo kernal to work with. SGS international version has the kernal leaked, that's why they have the froyo-beta-ish roms.
Redwing said:
...you mean another round...right?
(Did nobody tell him?!?!)
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Lol omg
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jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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Having come from an N1, which is inarguably the most dev friendly Android phone to date, I have to whole heartedly disagree with the OP. It is a little aggravating dealing with Voodoo now and then, and the processes are a little different, but all in all this phone is fantastic.
I have a custom bare-bone type rom built, fully themed and customized to my hearts content. Four installed launchers that each have a completely different style and feel which I can switch at will. OC Voodoo lag and color fix kernel running on interactive thanks to Jt, and plenty of mix and match mods and hacks to keep me flashing back and forth so frequently no one can actually call me.
We do only have a handful of devs working on the fascinate currently. They happen to also be pretty damn awesome, and give us plenty to work and play with.
I have to re-ask the question, what the hell are you actually looking to do that you can't?
jorge3687 said:
I am honestly dissapointed with my Fascinate, I bought it because I thought it was going to be very costumizable, with the open loader and all that, the reality is that most devs are not even putting attention to this phone, only a handfull are, I have had it since the first day that came out, and development for this phone is going really really slow, and full of issues.
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This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...
Zennmaster said:
This guy seems to complain a lot, and doesn't really contribute to the conversation or development efforts. I'm going to decline to further feed the trolls...
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I think he is trying to come out of black screen issue.
good day.
How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!
Generally because you can sum up their complaints to a) why aren't devs giving me what I want now b) I have had my phone a month, understand very little but need to complain, or c) this phone sucks, I had my g1 for a year and we had tons of mods, dev r teh lazy.
So yeah, trolls.
If they were here to learn... The complaints wouldn't be their posting topics, they would be off learning. They are here to feed off others works and complain.
BingoDanny said:
How come everyone who has a bad experience, or is disapointed with there device gets called a troll? Isnt this the purpose of the Forums....to speak your opinion, learn a few things and see if anyone feels the same way?
I remember when everyone ...well people still do make fun of apple fan boyz because thats all they love is apple....but i have the feeling android fanz are becoming the same thing....close minded and haterz!!!
The purpose of android was openess and freedom....so wake up people the trolls are not those who complain about a priduct they paid good $$$$ money fir but are disapointed... the trolls are the haterz and people who beleive that there the best and there way is the only way!!!
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I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.
BingoDanny said:
I gotta disagree with you, the thread is posted in the general section. If hes disapointed with the phone. I think its good if he tells us why. Im disapointed not because of support with the phone but because alot of stuff out the box doesnt work as advertised.....gps lag etc............and yes there are lag fixes but i paid top $$$ for it to work out the box not for me to go find a fix.
either way i think the word troll is used to freely.
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I agree with you about the general section & out of the box comment. Its just that there are many other threads with the same topic. But he has the right to post this question, and I was merely asking what was wrong with the phone according to him. Out of the box, the phone is still very capable and it honestly doesnt need to be modded. But the mods are very nice.
Also what phone is perfect stock? There's always cons, and that's why we're on the forums looking for answers.
Sent from my Fascinate using the official XDA Forum App.
no phone is perfect.... that's why were all always going to complain lolol
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Exactly if there was any phone close to perfect for me out would be this. The iPhone is totally out of the picture.

Why my releases now say "Not Available"..

That's about it for me. But first a point or two.
Why I came here, what I hoped to provide and why I'm done:
I will be the first one to acknowledge that TW have this thing down way better than I do! I am running Nero Beta 3 as I am typing this! It would have taken me forever to come up with a 2.2 mounting fix, FOREVER. Even more, they were kind enough to give me my own repo on their site. They have been great to me and I have learned so much from them.
BUT, I wanted to provide a little variety for people between the Eugene/Master/TW releases. I think I did just that.
Mjollnir: My first try at a rom, nothing more that just a really, really big theme.
sXe: My second try which included backwards compatible framework.
Volholl: My JK2 / JK6 / JL1 Hybrid
Volholl Valkyrie: Pure JL4
Volholl Ragnarok: Only known 2.2.1 port released for Vibrant, with working wifi and gps - even with the signal related soft boot bug, I was the only one brave enough to put it all on the line and release it,
Volholl PepperKake : Pure JL5 with all images, sounds plus, plus ripped from Nexus S dump
How is it so easy to criticize someone who spends countless hours putting something together for you for free? When you have done nothing for the community other than demand more?
As far as I know, everyone respects sombionix, yet even he has had to come on here and defend a stock release because everyone kept complaining that it MAY have included TW init - which it didn't.
So, that is my rant.
I will continue to release Roms, Themes, whatever you decide to call them - they just won't be posted on XDA for a while, or ever..
Sorry to see it came to this man since I think you have provided some really useful stuff. Sad how people feel the need to troll and criticize things needlessly but I will continue to follow you else where.
Woahhh... Wait, what happened.? I got back within the hour from being with family on Christmas.. More people trolling & flaming people? Didn't we just have a town hall meeting?
Yeah but some people just don't appreciate the hard work of you guys. All they do is come here and complain over little insignificant things because they apparently font get enough attention at home. I don't blame heathen at all for dumping this place. Good thing I can still use his stuff on tw forums.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
I am new to this forum and I was lucky enough to grab your Nexus clone for the Vibrant. I absolutely love this rom. That is all.
Honestly, the Vibrant section of this site is going to hell with all these pr*cks pissing off those that actually do something for others. These are the worst of the worst, because not only do they not do anything, but they keep others from doing work as well. Do we really have to be such a$$es while offering criticism?
masr1979 said:
Honestly, the Vibrant section of this site is going to hell with all these pr*cks pissing off those that actually do something for others. These are the worst of the worst, because not only do they not do anything, but they keep others from doing work as well. Do we really have to be such a$$es while offering criticism?
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I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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Hey thats great jillette. Please do post ur ROMs here on xda..cos we really appreciate ur work
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bosslabs said:
Hey thats great jillette. Please do post ur ROMs here on xda..cos we really appreciate ur work
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Indeed we do!
most users here do appreciate all developers work. its just the few idiots/trolls with loud voices who spoil it for everyone else
kboater said:
most users here do appreciate all developers work. its just the few idiots/trolls with loud voices who spoil it for everyone else
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Agreed....I for one respect all the hardworking developers (and other people who take out the time to post something that others benefit from) and really dislikedislike those who try to mess it up for everyone because they have nothing better to do...
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jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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Post them other than here on xda...
Pm them to people, or at TW's site. You or the other devs should be treated this way.
Sent from the helm of the vibrant Galaxy S!
jellette said:
I have a pretty short memory. I do get mad but it doesn't last forever. I'm testing the next release of the pulled rom right now with the new audio and gps settings and the crt shutdown sequence.
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I know I am really enjoying your latest rom. Out of all the roms available yours is the one I am using.
gotta say, i've never flashed one of your roms, but don't stopping making them available.
some people are douches and don't deserve what the community does for them.
what have they done?
just keep on keepin on. if for no other reason than you are, i'm sure, learning a bunch of cool **** and having fun.

Stupid ass Sprint and their stupid ass playbook?

As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
darkierawr said:
.....I'm not sure how I am supposed to respond to this. There is no question. Or any way to know whether or not Sprint will drop GB. Hmmm
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If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
Milkman00 said:
If it is going to drop isn't it mentioned in the PB?
Therefore the question is - Was it in the PB tonight?
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If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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muyoso said:
If it was, your title is going to look more retarded than it does already, and its already full fledged.
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Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
Milkman00 said:
As you can see by the title I am getting more and more disgruntled by the day.
I assume the playbook made no mention of GB this f'ing week?
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The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
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The Great Lonny from Charlie Brown!!!!
Milkman00 said:
Speaking of retarded, look who it is. Pot, Kettle, Black.
Anyway - I qualified my title in the first line of my post. I am disgruntled and I am tired of the same old **** from Sprint/Samsung. No communication, late patches... Tired and disgruntled beyond belief. Hence the title.
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Thanks for being real. I feel the same way bro. I feel your pain. But I am not surprised. Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread. I am on the naughty list so I won't be getting gingerbread but others who are on the nice list can or maybe we can wait for the Lonny Bunny but our best chance is to ask the Great Lonny next Halloween for gingerbread by that time we will have an official gingerbread while everybody else will be on Jellybean.
steveo314 said:
The guy that looks at the playbook and shares with us looks at it on Wednesday and shares on Thursday. Calm your damn nerves til tomorrow when we're told what he found out.
Sent from my SPH-D700
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Thanks Steve. I didn't know that was the case. I thought several users here had access to it.
I am so disgusted with SamSprint it is disgusting. The worst part yet is that I feel that I have no options. I like Samsung technology (specifically the large AMOLED screen in combination with the physical QWERTY), but with attitude that Samsung and Sprint have in releasing software updates (the attitude of I got your money already), it is REALLY discouraging. I wish we had other options because I would GTFO of this phone QUICK and never buy another Samsung phone again.
ALSO, all of this in combination with Samsung and Sprint's complete lack of communication on the matter. No status updates, confirmations, NOTHING. SOOOOOOOOOO tired of this business model, and nothing on the horizon that looks better.
The Galaxy S is an awesome phone no matter which variant you have. Yes we don't get the up dates as quick as we should, I put it on the carriers(refer to the I9000 section on samfirmware and you'll see what I mean). If they'd let some members of xda do their updates they'd be a lot stablier and out faster.
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jamice4u said:
Maybe some of the guys can ask Lonny Claus for his version of gingerbread.
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It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
Milkman00 said:
It is pretty clear from all of the posts that I have read, that getting GB from his phone is nothing short of a lost cause.
That said, we shouldn't need to do this kind of reverse engineering crap to get the software off his phone to get it to the people that want it.
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That is not going to happen.
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Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
azyouthinkeyeiz said:
Care to take your childish, complaining somewhere else? Try any android blog, or the sprint forums. This thread, and all of these supportive attitudes are asinine.
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I am sorry that you think it is ok for companies (Sprint/Samsung) to treat THEIR CUSTOMERS this way. You know, the same customers who pay the salaries of the employees of their respective companies???
I am also sorry that you don't find this ridiculous delay, and this non-communication as acceptable, and as something that doesn't warrant complaining.
Instead, you chose to complain about my post. Good use of your time. It is YOUR passive attitude which is what allows these exact delays to occur. GOOD JOB!
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I guess it wasn't in the playbook this week?
Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
algorhythm said:
Dude, for real? Grow up. We've gone this long without official GB, it's not like the phone is unusable without it.
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And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
GituSum Epic
GituSum said:
Your complaing in a development fourm isn't going to do anything for you if your upset that sprint/samsung does not give you timely updates to your phone. Try complaining in the sprint/samsung fourms, it might help your cause a litttle more.
GituSum Epic
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I have personally written to both companies (actual paper and stamp). I am just one person. If more and more people did it (even just demanded communication), things would change.
rgregg504 said:
Unless GB is gonna make my phone physically do my job for me I don't see it as that big of a deal. The devs have made this phone kick ass but in essence its just a phone that's fun to mod. I just don't get all the anger. Besides that I'm running eh17 with one of the new kernels from source and it is running great. (Although it still doesn't do my job for me)
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I had to lol at the job still not being done for you. Now there's a real challenge for the devs.
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Milkman00 said:
And that makes it ok!!!!
I simply don't understand how so many people think it is OK for a consumer to be treated this way by the company they are supporting. This is NOT OK. Instead of being passive about the entire situation, why not be more vocal???
Funny thing is, if you pacifists would actually read what I post, you would see that I am not even necessarily asking for GB tomorrow. I would be thrilled just to get some communication from these companies. Stop keeping the PAYING CUSTOMERS in the dark. Let us know what is going on.
If more people spoke up, maybe these companies would change their tune a little, but nooooooooooo, people are ok with not getting updates in a timely fashion, with no communication from the companies that will ultimately provide said update.
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Spoke up to WHO? XDA Developers forum?
And no one is keeping anyone in the dark. We weren't guaranteed ANYTHING. We have been getting leaks (read: unofficial builds), and that's it. Nothing has been announced. We'll get it when we get it. Were we even TOLD we were getting Gingerbread by both Sprint and Samsung? I don't think so. We are all speculating release dates, 2.3.x builds, playbook leaks, etc.

A Great Loss To The XP Community

So I went to check on PSXPERIA and I see this message posted by yifanlu
Update: (01/06/2012) I've decided to sell my Xperia play and discontinue all my work on the platform. Like SE, I lost interest in the Play because of the lack of games and a general lack of content. Also, I cannot stand Android anymore, especially SE's skin. I was looking forward for ICS, but after seeing SE put their skin on that too, I won't want to deal with it anymore. As for PSXperia, I have always released the source and documents for everything I release. I also have a few writeups on reverse engineering the psx emulator on my site. I will no longer be providing support for PSXperia and won't be managing the bug reports on github. Again, everything is open source and under GPL, so anyone can pick up where I left off (for example, improving the UI, future emulator compability, etc). I hope the project won't die!
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Just wanted to say this is going to be a big loss to the community. PsXperia was the only program that allowed us to make backups where the analog controls worked and I loved that feature.
Going to be sad seeing him leave this sub-forum and also abandon his projects because he was a resource of knowledge and a helper to everyone he came upon.
I hope this type of "giving up" behavior is not seen anymore because it will really hurt further development for the Xperia Play.
Well hope you do well my friend yifanlu. I hope you have fun with whatever you do next. Atleast one person has appreciated your work and that was me.
I have to disagree about ICS tho. I never was excited about it. Just more useless features I don't want or need
So from myself and whoever else wants to join.
Goodbye and good luck.
If you people have Kindle readers, you'll find him there as well, as he jail broke some of them. Show him your support!
Thanks for everything, Yifan Lu!
Logseman said:
If you people have Kindle readers, you'll find him there as well, as he jail broke some of them. Show him your support!
Thanks for everything, Yifan Lu!
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Sadly I do not have one.
All i have right now is 2 droid X's and 1 Xperia play locked bootloader
Wow, this really sucks! I do see this becoming a trend, hell last night, while researching some stuff, i was thinking to myself, how tired i was of the lack of content, and i also noticed that even here on XDA, developement for the play has pretty much come to a crawl. I am on here daily, and its been awhile since something BIG and NEW has been published for the Play. I was thinking of paying to unlock BL, but then decided not too, there is nothing, i want, no big accomplishment, that i need, that warrants shelling out hard earned money for a BL Unlock. Pretty sad really, i came from a "Starter" android, not even that great of a phone, but it was SOOOOO easy to flash, root, unlock, and developement was insane! To see this great device, basically sinking, and some good devs, jumping ship, its pretty sad.
EDIT - However on a upside, maybe with the phone being free now we will see an increse in activity, but i kinda doubt it.
Well once a good Rom for locked bootloaders is released with a stock OC ability, I think things will become a lot more interesting.
Milenko2121 said:
Well once a good Rom for locked bootloaders is released with a stock OC ability, I think things will become a lot more interesting.
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Exactly, Only a small portion of Xperia Play users have the unlockable bootloader version.
Lack of games? Lack of content? The content's growing so large that I'm usually too overwhelmed to deal with updating my list as frequently as I'd like.
Oh wait... it's just another stealth-anti SEXP Hogwarts thread... moving along.
EDIT: I do appreciate all the guy's done for breaking into PSPocket to make it into what the community wanted it to be, but honestly, it's been the exact opposite case for me - Xperia PLAY's got so much good software on it's own, and has brought so many games from crap touch-screen controls to something that's enjoyable that I haven't really cared to mess around with crap I already beat from 2 generations ago.
I think the community here is still going strong, especially with all the brilliance DooMLoRD brings us
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I think the community here is still going strong, especially with all the brilliance DooMLoRD brings us
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Keep thread on topic ok this is dedicated to a great developer and helper to the community of forum
not a discussion of the state of things
we are just supposed to honor yifanlu here ok.
If you have something good to say about him let it be known,
Well...you can convince him to stay,I mean he couldn't have sold his phone in 6 days. Anyway, Blagus left a while back,don't see anyone noticing that...
Fokezy said:
Well...you can convince him to stay,I mean he couldn't have sold his phone in 6 days. Anyway, Blagus left a while back,don't see anyone noticing that...
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Blagus had his phone stolen, but he's in the FXP team.
Logseman said:
Blagus had his phone stolen, but he's in the FXP team.
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Ya he had his phone stolen by logseman, They met each other at starbucks for a chat about a new blog Blagus was planning on making.
They chatted for a bit and then blagus said he was going to buy a brownie, not knowing he had left his phone sitting on the table.
Logseman saw the opportunity and took the phone. and the rest is history.
Lol jk that story is entirely fictional
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Ya he had his phone stolen by logseman, They met each other at starbucks for a chat about a new blog Blagus was planning on making.
They chatted for a bit and then blagus said he was going to buy a brownie, not knowing he had left his phone sitting on the table.
Logseman saw the opportunity and took the phone. and the rest is history.
Lol jk that story is entirely fictional
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As far as I know there are no starbucks in croatia so...
Anyway did doom buy the phone?
Sent from my Xperia Play
"I cannot stand Android anymore"
thats too bad , but at least you made the sources availlable to the community ...
thanks for PSXPERIA and good luck with your future projects
Bummer
Yea that sucks. Sorry to see any Devs go.
Thanks for your work and good luck and good times to the future.
I am still trying to figure out how i can start posting my on custom nandroids(locked bl r800x cdma). can someone pm me and tell me whats the process?
Beanerman said:
Yea that sucks. Sorry to see any Devs go.
Thanks for your work and good luck and good times to the future.
I am still trying to figure out how i can start posting my on custom nandroids(locked bl r800x cdma). can someone pm me and tell me whats the process?
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you should not give out a nandroid backup unless you know what you're doing
you could mess up some peoples device. brick it even.
unless you know alot of knowledge in decompile / assembley / editing then i wouldnt suggest to get into custom rom ok.
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you should not give out a nandroid backup unless you know what you're doing
you could mess up some peoples device. brick it even.
unless you know alot of knowledge in decompile / assembley / editing then i wouldnt suggest to get into custom rom ok.
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Is that being said by someone who's giving out a nandroid backup from a phone he can't test?
O lordy... Darnit... Yifan was so successful here.. I pray someone will continue his work
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I feel like I'm walking into my own eulogy , but I guess I should say that the main reason I left IS because someone offered quite a generous amount of money for my Xperia play, and my other excuses including the lack of content and android sucking aren't enough to have made me part with the phone. So, I don't want to give the impression that I left because I hate Xperia play. Just that I'm a poor student and need money, and I reasoned that I would have enough extra to buy a ps vita, which I believe is exactly what I wanted in the play (well, after someone hacks it, which shouldn't be long). It has useable analog sticks (I could never get used to the touchpads), a big screen, Sony first party support, PSP games. (and I never used the play as a phone anyways)
Again, I really hope that someone will take over psxperia, and that the project won't die. And I'll still lurk here from time to time.
All the best yifanlu, maybe see you hacking the ps vita yourself

Just wanted to say thanks

Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!
LOL pointless post.
Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.
lmao!
I hope it's really happening
spotmark said:
Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.
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spotmark said:
Ah, so you're the reason we'll be getting root this weekend. :fingers-crossed: Thanks for taking one for the team.
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What is this root news you speak of Spotmark?
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dlscott1111 said:
What is this root news you speak of Spotmark?
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Right here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/info-lg-g4-korea-variant-rooted-anable-t3163925. OP has confirmed that it will work on all variants. Now we just have to wait on a tool, or instructions.
I like lamp
painedglass said:
Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!
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Man, some people are impatient. Enjoy a year old phone with subpar camera and features.
Sent from my G4 using your mom
Dennisg34 said:
Man, some people are impatient. Enjoy a year old phone with subpar camera and features.
Sent from my G4 using your mom
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Nah, has nothing to do with patience and everything to do with the OEM's and Carriers. I'm tired of locked down phones that they wont allow us to use as we please. Most of us know the consequence of a botched unlock/root so that point is a wash. It's about the control, and monetization, even after full purchase. If I buy a phone outright from T-Mobile, I should be able to do anything with the phone I want, to include throwing on a ROM, most of which are superior to the bloated crap put out by the OEM and carrier. While I love the camera on the G4, and no doubt the G4's overall experience is superior, I refuse to play their game anymore.
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LOL pointless post.
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Which is more pointless, the OP or the bonehead who replied?
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Which is more pointless, the OP or the bonehead who replied?
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Come to think of it now... neither, just you
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Right here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/g4/general/info-lg-g4-korea-variant-rooted-anable-t3163925. OP has confirmed that it will work on all variants. Now we just have to wait on a tool, or instructions.
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Good luck and enjoy, hope you guys get root quick!! :highfive:
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Well, I'm off to greener unlocked pastures, I just ordered my Nexus 6 yesterday afternoon and will get it in on Monday. With that said, I wanted to thank everyone here for listening to my rants, and hope I contributed in some way to the conversation. The G4 is a great phone, but it's potential is simply wasted by organizations that love to stifle innovation. God forbid if dev's actually come up with a better ROM with better features than the OEM provides, maybe they don't want to be embarrassed. I hope those who are sticking with their G4 get it unlocked and rooted soon, and squeeze every bit the G4 is capable of out of it. Good luck everyone!
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I came from the nexus 6. Great phone, already felt dated to me knowing 2 new variants around the corner.
Not being able to see whats on the screen in sunlight and issues with glass screen protectors had me looking.
Hopefully the huawei nexus 6 2015 will be affordable, more modern, legible in sunlight and have a better camera.
Locked stock my F500L has been great. Now with F500K rooted.. Ill get adaway and a few root apps installed any happier.
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Nah, has nothing to do with patience and everything to do with the OEM's and Carriers. I'm tired of locked down phones that they wont allow us to use as we please. Most of us know the consequence of a botched unlock/root so that point is a wash. It's about the control, and monetization, even after full purchase. If I buy a phone outright from T-Mobile, I should be able to do anything with the phone I want, to include throwing on a ROM, most of which are superior to the bloated crap put out by the OEM and carrier. While I love the camera on the G4, and no doubt the G4's overall experience is superior, I refuse to play their game anymore.
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Although I think putting up a post about how you're bailing on the G4 is silly, (much like people who put up posts about how much they hate a forum and are leaving, what are we supposed to beg you to stay? ), I get where you're coming from with taking a stand against carrier oppression. I also will write a company off quick if I feel they have wronged me or have business practices I don't like. Precisely why I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart.
Good luck with your new phone dude. I can't fault you for having principles.
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Although I think putting up a post about how you're bailing on the G4 is silly, (much like people who put up posts about how much they hate a forum and are leaving, what are we supposed to beg you to stay? ), I get where you're coming from with taking a stand against carrier oppression. I also will write a company off quick if I feel they have wronged me or have business practices I don't like. Precisely why I refuse to shop at Wal-Mart.
Good luck with your new phone dude. I can't fault you for having principles.
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It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
I thought a long time about this and simply made a personal choice not to support OEM's who lock down their phones, nothing more, nothing less. Yeah it sounds like a hissy fit but whatever, I dont live vicariously through xda so I'm not
butt hurt by comments some people make. Anyway, take care and good luck!
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It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
I thought a long time about this and simply made a personal choice not to support OEM's who lock down their phones, nothing more, nothing less. Yeah it sounds like a hissy fit but whatever, I dont live vicariously through xda so I'm not
butt hurt by comments some people make. Anyway, take care and good luck!
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I agree with you, I don't like how they lock down phones and try to control what you should do with it. Companies shouldn't release a phone if they want to control how you use it. Not the mention the huge amount of bugs this phone has. Makes LG seem quite pathetic.
I do like LG's other products though lol, their washing machines, microwaves, and fridges are pretty good!
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It was part rant/rage against the machine thing and a thanks to a really great community. I have nothing but respect for everyone here and I know everyone will get root-unlock-roms, thanks to talented dev's but I'm just so tired of the crap.
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Wait for root, unlock whatever, THEN get the phone. Why is that so hard to figure out for some people.
Wait for NEXT nexus model, then get it.
Obviously you have a problem with waiting.

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