[Q] A sudden bootloop, with a weird return! - Galaxy S3 Neo Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello!
Today I had a really weird situation with my Samsung Galaxy S3 Neo !
I put the phone on the charger as usual, then went to sleep.... Only to wake up on the boot intro sound of my device several times!
The only obvious reason for this situation is probably just putting my phone on the charger!
I tried to reboot several times, removed the battery and waited for a while, but in vain! Sometimes I had the logo screen, very slow one with a stuttering audio, sometimes not.
I tried to flash stock Kitkat firmware 4.4.4 (the same Hong Kong one I was using already)... No change!
I couldn't boot properly into recovery till I decided to flash TWRP and do a full erase of just about everything that could be erased!
The result?? You guessed it... NO CHANGE! Still the same bootloop, while sometimes I could see the launcher before the reboot!
I decided to try to flash the previous firmware that was before the update (4.3 Jellybean, UAE) and send it to the service center, and I just removed everything from the phone: The battery, and all the cards were removed and put aside! However, I found that this will trigger the Knox Warranty flag to 0x1, definitely not the best shape for visiting the service center! :\
After all, I decided to give it one last try to boot before I send it to be serviced just the way it became. To my surprise, I managed to boot successfully and restore almost everything. The only noticeable loss was the Samsung "Over The Horizon" soundtrack! (Got links for this one, please??)
However, all that flashing wasn't for free! I had a change of both firmware statuses to "Custom" after I had a once "Official" firmware tag! To my chances, I didn't trip the Knox Warranty Flag, and I had my device rooted using CF-AutoRoot with Odin!
A few questions here:
1. What the heck is going on?! What caused all of this from the beginning??!! The phone was rooted and working great before that! I even managed to resolve the battery drain and the camera issues for good! (I'll describe my method later )
2. After all that play, how come I didn't trip the Knox flag?! Was it just... luck???!!!!
3. Can I change to the UAE firmware from the Hong Kong one without tripping the Knox flag???!!! I have little problems with the Hong Kong one, despite the fact that I had some crashes and minimal glitches before! As you all know, Android is a glitchy OS, but this one has much less glitches than before.
Thank you for your time. Hope to see your thoughts asap

Question 1: I read similar problem on samsung phone somewhere caused by defective or dirty microUSB connector. Perhaps your several flashing resulted on dislodging of the dirt from the connector thus your reboot problem was resolved.
Question 2: I also flashed 4.3 over kitkat from hongkong rom and the knox was not tripped. Perhaps only rom 4.2 and below will trip the knox?
Question 3. I have done flashing from Hongkong to UAE to Russia no problem with knox.
Good luck!

bongski55 said:
Question 1: I read similar problem on samsung phone somewhere caused by defective or dirty microUSB connector. Perhaps your several flashing resulted on dislodging of the dirt from the connector thus your reboot problem was resolved.
Question 2: I also flashed 4.3 over kitkat from hongkong rom and the knox was not tripped. Perhaps only rom 4.2 and below will trip the knox?
Question 3. I have done flashing from Hongkong to UAE to Russia no problem with knox.
Good luck!
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Thanks a lot!
BTW, which one is better to use of the three firmwares you flashed already?? I have the I9300I with the 1.4 GHz Quadcore CPU and I know that some firmwares are made for the 1.2 GHz edition...

moro89 said:
Thanks a lot!
BTW, which one is better to use of the three firmwares you flashed already?? I have the I9300I with the 1.4 GHz Quadcore CPU and I know that some firmwares are made for the 1.2 GHz edition...
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You may have read my experiences with kitkat on a separate post? I am back to 4.3 now.
Anyway the most stable among the 3 is the latest Hongkong kitkat. Some users here suggest Kazak rom but I has heating problems with that...

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Knox 0x1 - Any Future Chances?

Hello! I got an update after installing my "new" 9505 with the famous sticker on the side (This product Is only comaptible wIth a SIM card Issued from a...)
However, I got the condion that KNOX warranty void is: 0x1
I can't go down to MGA or other firmwares... Sad. I understand that it is not possible to go back to MGA or another old stock firmware.
Can someone tell me how big the chances are that we will have a fix, a hack or anything to solve this problem?
Or is it nearly impossible?
All the best,
lienot
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Lienot said:
Hello! I got an update after installing my "new" 9505 with the famous sticker on the side (This product Is only comaptible wIth a SIM card Issued from a...)
However, I got the condion that KNOX warranty void is: 0x1
I can't go down to MGA or other firmwares... Sad. I understand that it is not possible to go back to MGA or another old stock firmware.
Can someone tell me how big the chances are that we will have a fix, a hack or anything to solve this problem?
Or is it nearly impossible?
All the best,
lienot
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If after an official update your knox flag was triggered, i'd say you walk up to Samdung and give them **** about it. It should not have happened because that's idiotic on their part. If your binary flash counter is 0, then it's perfectly fine and you should take it up with Samsung (or the carrier you got it from).
kingzain900 said:
If after an official update your knox flag was triggered, i'd say you walk up to Samdung and give them **** about it. It should not have happened because that's idiotic on their part. If your binary flash counter is 0, then it's perfectly fine and you should take it up with Samsung (or the carrier you got it from).
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It came fist with an official OTA update, but now I flashed a dozen different things, from 4.3.3 to OMEGA, to GOLDEN EYE and more - I just played around a bit. I do not know if they are so friendly when they see this.
When I heard it right, the Mobile Odin doesn't work any more, and I do not know if I can get hands on a new one.
And even when I get a new one, and it has the very latest system - would it make a difference?? I do not know, really!
ALl the best,
lienot
Lienot said:
It came fist with an official OTA update, but now I flashed a dozen different things, from 4.3.3 to OMEGA, to GOLDEN EYE and more - I just played around a bit. I do not know if they are so friendly when they see this.
When I heard it right, the Mobile Odin doesn't work any more, and I do not know if I can get hands on a new one.
And even when I get a new one, and it has the very latest system - would it make a difference?? I do not know, really!
ALl the best,
lienot
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Well now the point is moot. Because you can't really prove that an official firmware caused the flag to trip. So you can try reverting to stock and fighting with them on the warranty if you can show that there's a fault with the phone not on the software level but hardware. Otherwise, you'll have to live with it.

[Q] New to note 3 & samsung

hi, i just got my note 3 n9005 international a couple of days ago & now its time to root...you can say i am a little new to samsung because the last device i used was an s3 & that was a long time ago.....
i dont have any warranty so knox isnt that big of a concern unless it may cause some sort of damage to the phone...so far i have read..its only for warranty purposes like the flash counter for s3.
i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to point me to rooting & everything else i need to do to install custom roms including recovery...
i tried to read through the instructions of root de la vega but i find it too complicated...so i was thinking of doing cf auto root....
thank you
linx1287 said:
hi, i just got my note 3 n9005 international a couple of days ago & now its time to root...you can say i am a little new to samsung because the last device i used was an s3 & that was a long time ago.....
i dont have any warranty so knox isnt that big of a concern unless it may cause some sort of damage to the phone...so far i have read..its only for warranty purposes like the flash counter for s3.
i was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to point me to rooting & everything else i need to do to install custom roms including recovery...
i tried to read through the instructions of root de la vega but i find it too complicated...so i was thinking of doing cf auto root....
thank you
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Samsung issue a 24month warranty on the Note 3 (maybe country specific?) -
If KNOX isn't an issue for you and you do not mind tripping it, the CF-Auto is the way to go.
RDLV is complicated if you're lazy, but it does preserve KNOX status depending on your bootloader version, put in #*1234# into your dial pad and post the results. We can know if you can use RDLV.
However, if you want to flash a Custom ROM, then you will need a custom recovery, which will trip your KNOX (can't be done without) - on the Android dev section and Orginal Android dev section (in this sub forum) are some Custom ROMs and the instructions on how to do so.
I have used X-Note, Crash and am currently using AllianceROM, but there are a few others.
Just be careful with custom kernels until you're pretty confident cause you can bootloop and ruin your EFS quite easily (it is fixable 99% of the time tho, script is on here also)
EDIT : All you need is here pretty much
thank you for your reply & these are the stats
AP: N9005XXUDMJ6
CP: N9005XXUDMJ4
CSC: N9005EVRDMJ4
also RDLV is way too complicated for me & besides i do plan to install a custom recovery so i think that defeats the point ....since you seem to have tripped knox, there hasnt been any kind of system issue i hope? this whole knox business gave me cold feet when i read about it...but so far as i can see..its just a flash counter.... could you tell me the tools i need to get started with? i already downloaded the usb drivers & odin 3.09..is there anything else i should need?
p.s. i was reading about "before or later MJ7 4" whatever...& i was wondering which of these was it refering to? ap? thank you
Once you trip the knox counter it makes no difference to the phone except not being able to use knox containers, and of course the warranty which you know. -- if you have the drivers and odin. Go grab cf-autoroot, run it thru odin and voila all done, similar for twrp or Cwm which ever you choose as your custom recovery (I use twrp) flash in odin and that's it all set.
Just make sure and I can't stress this enough, that you flash the right ROM for the N9005, and N900 doesn't work. - avoid doing restores with twrp for now also when you do a back up, some issues have arose recently and not sure of they're resolved or not yet.
Have fun man, just read everything about the ROM etc before you flash the odd one has FC's or NFC issues
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ok so backing up & restoring with recovery is, for the time being, a no no? yes i will make sure to see if the roms are made for n9005 only....i will probably start off with omega roms as they are the 1st choice i had when i started modding the s3 ....thank you soo much mate for all the info...1 last thing to clear up is i am reading on developers talking about MJ or MK or whatever it is....are they talking about the build number i find in Settings/About??
1 thing i couldnt get a proper answer for...is how does 1 know they have the international variant of the n9005 anyway? normally if a n9005 is under some sort of carrier...the carrier logo would flash when booting up right? because thats what happens on my brother's note 3 n9005...when he boots up his phone..it shows SFR logo before going to the samsung bootanimation.....but on mine there is no such thing...the simple note 3 n9005 text then samsung boot animation & then straight to system...that means mine is the unbranded 1 am i correct?
linx1287 said:
1 thing i couldnt get a proper answer for...is how does 1 know they have the international variant of the n9005 anyway? normally if a n9005 is under some sort of carrier...the carrier logo would flash when booting up right? because thats what happens on my brother's note 3 n9005...when he boots up his phone..it shows SFR logo before going to the samsung bootanimation.....but on mine there is no such thing...the simple note 3 n9005 text then samsung boot animation & then straight to system...that means mine is the unbranded 1 am i correct?
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Yeah yours is unbranded, only thing that may/will apply to you is region lock (which unless you're leaving the country your purchased your phone in isn't an issue at the start.
Although I see your CSC is EVR (if I recall correctly that is EE UK's firmware on board)
EDIT: Yes MK/ML are build numbers
no i dont have region lock..THAT i checked...so can i go forwards with all the rooting recovery & custom roms? i did find a orange core services apk on my apps manager under ALL tab..... also what original firmware can i roll back to incase anything goes wrong? any specifics?
linx1287 said:
no i dont have region lock..THAT i checked...so can i go forwards with all the rooting recovery & custom roms? i did find a orange core services apk on my apps manager under ALL tab..... also what original firmware can i roll back to incase anything goes wrong? any specifics?
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Yup can go forwards. EVR (EE aka Orange/T-Mobile) have unlocked phones so yeah you won't have region lock. Which means yours is unbranded but carrier unbranded.
As for firmware, it depends on what region you are using? And what country you are in (you could use BTU (also UK, unbranded but EVR is ok also) - You are **now I say this depending on your country/region** OK on MJ7 or MK2 IF you upgrade since you're using a UK based ROM/CSC your network obviously supports it. However battery life is better on lower than MJ6. So it's your choice really.
Most custom ROMs are MK2 or ML2 atm I think, - Not sure if any upgrade your bootloader to MJ7 (if they do, you can't roll back any lower currently)
i just need a stock firmware so as i have a fallback if anything goes wrong...nothing more really as i plan to stick with custom roms...will this do?
http://samsung-updates.com/details/17028/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/EVR/N9005XXUDMJ6.html
i am in Bangladesh so i am pretty confident that there isnt any rom for my region
yea i was wondering about the battery life myself...i dont know what version my brother's note is but his battery lasts noticibly longer than mine does....i was even planning on swapping batteries as i thought it might be a cell related issue
linx1287 said:
i just need a stock firmware so as i have a fallback if anything goes wrong...nothing more really as i plan to stick with custom roms...will this do?
http://samsung-updates.com/details/17028/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/EVR/N9005XXUDMJ6.html
i am in Bangladesh so i am pretty confident that there isnt any rom for my region
yea i was wondering about the battery life myself...i dont know what version my brother's note is but his battery lasts noticibly longer than mine does....i was even planning on swapping batteries as i thought it might be a cell related issue
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As long as your bootloader doesn't go to MJ7 - that firmware is OK, If your bootloader updates ( I think it may with the custom ROM) you can't roll back to MJ6, you can go to MJ7 or MK2 via BTU which will work for you since EVR works.
the latest omega is ML2 so by that measure...i wont be able to roll back to MK2 either & the latest on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459328 is MK2
linx1287 said:
the latest omega is ML2 so by that measure...i wont be able to roll back to MK2 either & the latest on this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2459328 is MK2
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You can drop back as far as MJ7 ( I have at least when I've returned to stock due to mess ups) my build is MK2 atm
the bootloader only goes to MJ7 (last I checked, If it has changed then mine still lets me roll to MJ7)
csc seems a very complicated mess...GOD when did the mod friendly samsung go this crazy? the s3 was the most fun thing to mod...now this feels more complicated then Sony's!! :'( since my csc is EVR...is it possible to put BTU? i saw someone post this but didnt get any replies... http://www.usofttech.com/t128991.html
OH CRAP you said this BTU already...sorry my bad.... just trying to absorb all this
1 last query & i think i can start....with my current MJ6 build...can i do the cf auto root? or do i need to be on a lower build? if i can...then i think i will start or should i wait for the MJ7 to finish downloading & root that with cf auto root? & mate...thank you... you helped clear a lot of the confusions stopping me from modding this...now i think i can start things with a bit of confidence...thank you.... MUCH appreciated
linx1287 said:
1 last query & i think i can start....with my current MJ6 build...can i do the cf auto root? or do i need to be on a lower build? if i can...then i think i will start or should i wait for the MJ7 to finish downloading & root that with cf auto root? & mate...thank you... you helped clear a lot of the confusions stopping me from modding this...now i think i can start things with a bit of confidence...thank you.... MUCH appreciated
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You can CF root straight away, - since you're triggering KNOX anyway it won't affect you. Then on with custom recovery etc, just keep MJ7 as your stock back up on your PC just incase. and IF you run into any issues with EFS (bootloops/no signal/wifi/baseband etc) use THIS It has saved me and quite a few others.
EDIT: And no problem man, glad to help, we all start somewhere with new devices
mate....the odin inside the cf root is 1.85 & the 1 got from google is 3.09 which should i use? & is PDA & AP the same thing because they are diff in the 2 versions of odin
linx1287 said:
mate....the odin inside the cf root is 1.85 & the 1 got from google is 3.09 which should i use? & is PDA & AP the same thing because they are diff in the 2 versions of odin
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I use 3.07 personally - and flash using PDA -- Use the one with CF root if you're unsure
the phone is rooted ahhh feels like home again ....mate you said earlier that restoring backups on twrp causes system issues....i was wondering if this is true for just twrp or ALL current recoveries in general? which recovery would you suggest? also i was wondering about that script you told me about...the 1 about soft brick.... that fixes corrupt efs due to flashes yes? if so, does that mean it doesnt require my backup of efs?
linx1287 said:
the phone is rooted ahhh feels like home again ....mate you said earlier that restoring backups on twrp causes system issues....i was wondering if this is true for just twrp or ALL current recoveries in general? which recovery would you suggest? also i was wondering about that script you told me about...the 1 about soft brick.... that fixes corrupt efs due to flashes yes? if so, does that mean it doesnt require my backup of efs?
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TWRP has issues *sometimes* there's a few posts about it around, I personally have had no problems and use TWRP fine, but I mentioned it because what works for one, doesn't always for another.
As for EFS backup, keep it just incase -- IT seems Android can rebuild the EFS again with that fire script. -- It's handy though, gotten a few out of the crapper including myself

Bad/lost signal, KNOX, service centre dilemma

Hi, My SGS4 has never really worked since new. I experienced the same problem as this person when I got it last year, ie, it loses signal and then latches off and needs to be rebooted or put in and out of flight mode to nudge it back to life:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288744
I've tried lots of stuff the operator suggested and replaced the SIM etc. etc. In the end I got fed up and swapped back to my SGS2, which is works fine, and intended to swap the SGS4 for another one. But since moving to the SGS2, the the 4.3 OTA update has been released. I've NOT moved to 4.3 and it comes up with the new software available message every few hours.
On all my other Android devices I've rooted them and to make use of TiB and other neat tools. I haven't done that with the SGS4 yet but would like to once it's out of warranty.
So my dilemma is this...
Should I send the SGS4 back and get another from the operator and risk getting a 4.3 KNOX device, or
Should I send it to a Samsung service centre (as folks in the thread I referenced suggest) and risk that the service centre updating my phone to 4.3, or
Should I root and update to 4.3 without updating the modem etc. to avoid KNOX and see if the new OS fixes my problems but risk my warranty (which runs until May 2015)?
I'm kicking myself for not getting on with this months ago before 4.3 was released. Any views gratefully received.
-Thanks
ssteward said:
Hi, My SGS4 has never really worked since new. I experienced the same problem as this person when I got it last year, ie, it loses signal and then latches off and needs to be rebooted or put in and out of flight mode to nudge it back to life:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2288744
I've tried lots of stuff the operator suggested and replaced the SIM etc. etc. In the end I got fed up and swapped back to my SGS2, which is works fine, and intended to swap the SGS4 for another one. But since moving to the SGS2, the the 4.3 OTA update has been released. I've NOT moved to 4.3 and it comes up with the new software available message every few hours.
On all my other Android devices I've rooted them and to make use of TiB and other neat tools. I haven't done that with the SGS4 yet but would like to once it's out of warranty.
So my dilemma is this...
Should I send the SGS4 back and get another from the operator and risk getting a 4.3 KNOX device, or
Should I send it to a Samsung service centre (as folks in the thread I referenced suggest) and risk that the service centre updating my phone to 4.3, or
Should I root and update to 4.3 without updating the modem etc. to avoid KNOX and see if the new OS fixes my problems but risk my warranty (which runs until May 2015)?
I'm kicking myself for not getting on with this months ago before 4.3 was released. Any views gratefully received.
-Thanks
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Hi,
I take it that you have a pre-knox bootloader.
Me too.
I installed a custom recovery and only used custom ROMS/kernels , so I remained on the old bootloader.
At any time I can use Triangle Away and flash a stock MGA firmware to return to it's original state.
I can flash knox-free ROMS and modems and it still does not affect or change the bootloader.
I suggest you try the same.

Slow Internet (3G/LTE) after 4.4.2 Update

Hello Guys
Well, let me get straight to the point. After my old rom (Revolution HD3) was draining my battery pretty fast, i decided to update to 4.4.2. Well, i downloaded the latest 4.4.2 for switzerland from sammobile.com. I flashed it and it somehow was all laggy and i had fc's the whole time. After some time i was able to use the phone anyway, but it was laggy. And the problem was that my 3G connection was EXTREMELY slow. I got connection time outs the whole time and wasnt able to download anything. Well, i thought it was the rom i flashed trough odin, so i downgraded to 4.2.2, my original rom, and updated trough KIES. The rom wasnt laggy anymore, but the 3g/4g was slow. I tried different Modems and Kernels. Nothing Helped. I then decided im going back to a custom rom but the flash failed. Then i tried another rom and it failed again. So i thought it may was cause i was on 4.4.2 and tried to flash a custom rom that was 4.2.2. I then tried to reflash my stock rom trough odin, and it FAILED. And that's how i bricked my phone. I can still enter Download Mode, but can't enter the recovery anymore. What do i do? I'd like to solve both problems.
Thanks guys
Btw: I've got an I9505
I assume you didn't wipe anything before you flashed stuff? Thats like rule number 1 to do.
You can try flashing a recovery true Odin.
Hej Guys
Um.. Just to let you guys know, it is possible to downgrad to 4.2.2 from 4.4.2. I just did it this morning and had sucess. But the problem with the really slow internet connction still is here, when im on a 4.4.2. And, it is the same with custom roms running 4.4.2. I tried different kernels and modems, nothing helped so far. As soon as i was back to 4.2.2 it had the usual connection speed. I called my provider and also called samsung itself. Obviously, they both told me to bring the phone back for garantuee. But well, as i know it's a software problem and not hardware, i wont do that. So can you guys help me? What should i do next? Actually im back on 4.2.2. Thanks
Edit: Oh, and ofc, i did everything like wiping/factory resetting, wipping preoload etc. It's not my first time flashing.
It's not possible to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.2.2! End of..
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Are you serious dude? Im running 4.2.2 right now. What is your point?`I didnt even ask about it. I asked about a solution to the problem that i get slow 3G/4G on my I9505 when running 4.4.2. If you want a proof Pic about it running 4.2.2, i can give you one. But i dont really get what your point is.
Hang on hang on hang on, it is common knowledge that you cannot downgrade from official samsung 4.4.2 to official samsung 4.2.2 because in odin you will get failure at aboot.bin because you cannot downgrade bootloader.
How ever what would be really good is instead of just trying to say it then jumping out saying what's your point, we'll my friend the point is, it would be advantageous to everyone in the entire samsung galaxy s4 i9505 community if you can tell everyone how you did it.
My perspective is your doing a bit of flaming.
Pictures really won't prove a whole lot as anyone can do some build.prop edits and show different rom name and version.
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Well, if it sounded like flame to you, it wasnt. I didnt create this thread to flame others. But i wasnt kidding saying that i downgraded to 4.2.2. Here how i did it:
Was running 4.4.2 (I9505XXUFNB9)
Flashed TWRP recovery.
Flashed custom Rom 4.2.2, which FAILED!
Flashed Official 4.2.2 trough odin, which FAILED!
Flashed TWRP recovery again, since it was somehow damaged from the flash before
Flashed Wanamlite 4.4.2
Flashed Custom Rom 4.2.2
Flashed Official 4.2.2 with succes.
Im not sure what part of those flashes were essential, but i have no reason for liying to you. What would be the perks if i did?
But now again BTT, Did anyone else have that problem of slow interenet connection? Or is it just me? Maybe some ideas?
Regarding slow Internet maybe it's your carrier with issues.
Maybe the downgrade back to 4.2.2 has created issues in its self. Have you checked your baseband matches bootloader and build?
A problem we have is we can't see the version of the 4G modem (non-hols) so that might be also an issue.
When you flashed back did you do a factory reset?
In regards to downgrade do you still have the Knox bootloader?
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Well, i called my operator and the girl on the phone said that some people already called with the same issue, but its not on their side. It's a problem with the update samsung released. After the downgrade i had my Knox Bootloader and everything worked like it always did.
Yesterday Sammobile released a new ''rom'' for my country. Downloaded it, flashed it and it works great now. I have a bit of a fast battery Drain, but the problem with the slow internet seems to be fixed.
Again: 4.2.2 worked perfectly after downgrade. It had no issue, No FC nothing at all. Maybe i was lucky? No idea, but im happy my 4.4.2 works now
Thanks anyway for your help guys
Edit: Yeah, my bootloader matched both baseband and build.
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If you had done your homework, you would know that in almost all cases Samsung repairs it even with Knox set to 0x1. They even publicly stated it in the Netherlands that they will repair your phone even with custom roms.
And you don't know the law in Switserland. Nor do I. So you can't say that in Switserland his rights are voided by flashing.
If Samsung doesn't give you the warranty, then you still have your consumer rights in the European Union (not that Switerland is in it). No flashing, modding or other chances decleine you your rights if it's not related to a hardware failure. In the countries that you and I live in, it will never void your rights if the damage is not related to flashing or modding.
So well, i think that in switzerland they actually WONT repair it if you flash it, but i aint sure about that, since i never had to send it to repair. But anyway, it was only a software problem on their side. They released another version for switzerland and it seemed to have fixed the problem. I have a bit more of a battery drain, but i actually think im just too used to some other custom roms. Anyways, thanks for the help guys

Downgrading my samsung galaxy s4(I9500) to 4.2.2

Hey guys i have a samsung galaxy s4 on android 4.4.2 kitkat and i am not happy at all with the kitkat update since it has ruined battery life and is causing many other problems like lag and overheating
So i want to downgrade to the stock 4.2.2. I have never rooted my samsung galaxy s4 and i am still unrooted.
I know knox will be set to 0x1 after downgrading but i do not care about it as triangle away supports galaxy s4 now .
So here is what i want to know
If i download the proper 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile according to my country(India) and install it via odin then will the process work? and if it is the right procedure does it require root ?
Is there any chance that my phone can get bricked because of knox ?
and how should i take backup of efs in case of a possible imei error ?
I know how to downgrade i9505 but i9500 Im not sure about it I never tested it out
I think you can downgrade successfully, I have a thread about how to downgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.3 but its for i9505 check my profile threads
You can downgrade successfully if you follow my guide, but you will lose wifi of maybe imei
So you can solve 4.3 wifi problem by downloading 4.3 kernel
You can use the same way to downgrade from 4.3 to 4.2.2
And for how to backup your imei you will need a rooted device !!
There some apps that backsup imei
Just look for your phone model "gt-i9500"
And you can backup you system starting from imei by having custom recovery like CWM and do Nandroid
And Knox will be tripped
Downgrade or Install Custom ROM
tdssmarty16 said:
Hey guys i have a samsung galaxy s4 on android 4.4.2 kitkat and i am not happy at all with the kitkat update since it has ruined battery life and is causing many other problems like lag and overheating
So i want to downgrade to the stock 4.2.2. I have never rooted my samsung galaxy s4 and i am still unrooted.
I know knox will be set to 0x1 after downgrading but i do not care about it as triangle away supports galaxy s4 now .
So here is what i want to know
If i download the proper 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile according to my country(India) and install it via odin then will the process work? and if it is the right procedure does it require root ?
Is there any chance that my phone can get bricked because of knox ?
and how should i take backup of efs in case of a possible imei error ?
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Hey dude,
I don't really understand how the s4 lags - did u try resetting the device?
the battery life is fine with the latest update.
Overheating is still there in i9500 & also it cools down rapidly - I guess its a HW design. Hope it wont be fixed.
I was annoyed with the overheating issue & now i am used to it. It heats while using 2G or 3G Internet & playing games.
Using regular apps it doesn't heats up & now i am okay with it.
Regarding the downgrade, frimware from sammobile will work fine. You will have to install via odin.
no your phone wont get bricked cos of knox - I suggest you to follow a video tutorial and do the downgrade.
But I recommend you to try a custom rom such as Omega, Hassan etc
In my experience the these roms are very good on battery and performance. Pls do note these roms (Omega, Hassan) are based on samsung stock rom.
If you still want to downgrade, I would suggest you to take it to the service center guys & they will do it for free.
Hope this helps!! :good:
Yeah it mostly gets heated while playing games and using chrome
Though i can still live with the heat because eventually i will get used to it after some time
But the lag is killing me
My phone shows lags while entering and leaving apps and camera and gallery too and it was not lagging before on 4.2.2
Also i have experienced significant battery drag
While using the internet it falls of by 1 percent every two minutes
Is this kind of battery drop normal ?
I am really missing the old firmware so i think i am gonna go to samsung and get it downgraded from there
Thanx for the sugesstion bro
tdssmarty16 said:
Yeah it mostly gets heated while playing games and using chrome
Though i can still live with the heat because eventually i will get used to it after some time
But the lag is killing me
My phone shows lags while entering and leaving apps and camera and gallery too and it was not lagging before on 4.2.2
Also i have experienced significant battery drag
While using the internet it falls of by 1 percent every two minutes
Is this kind of battery drop normal ?
I am really missing the old firmware so i think i am gonna go to samsung and get it downgraded from there
Thanx for the sugesstion bro
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I think will be not easy. You voided ur warranty when u downgraded (KNOX:0x1). No service centers will fix it (in theory) :highfive:
No Performance Lag & Good Battery Life
tdssmarty16 said:
Yeah it mostly gets heated while playing games and using chrome
Though i can still live with the heat because eventually i will get used to it after some time
But the lag is killing me
My phone shows lags while entering and leaving apps and camera and gallery too and it was not lagging before on 4.2.2
Also i have experienced significant battery drag
While using the internet it falls of by 1 percent every two minutes
Is this kind of battery drop normal ?
I am really missing the old firmware so i think i am gonna go to samsung and get it downgraded from there
Thanx for the sugesstion bro
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Hey bro,
In my experience with the S4 on Stock ROM I never experienced a lag.
Please check on the settings - switch off the gimmicky features such as Air View, Air Gesture, S Beam, Air Gesture, Motion, Palm Motion etc etc.
Settings --> Connections Tab --> NFC, S Beam, Nearby devices, Screen Mirroring
Settings --> My Device -->(scroll down) motions & gestures, smart screen, air view
Turn locations off
Check the battery graph - see which app consumes more
I had this issues when these features were on.
The phone will be always hot, battery was draining like 1 % for 1 to 2 mins.
There is no lag with camera and gallery.
Battery drag is bit similar that I lose 1% for every 3 to 4 mins on 2/3G Internet. But on Wifi battery is solid.
In my opinion battery is very solid in S4.
The latest firmware is very stable. The performance has increased from old firmwares.
If you hv rooted the device, and got custom recovery just try a custom rom.
Okay i think it would be good to try the custom rom
So i am gonna try that and see what happens
Joku1981 said:
I think will be not easy. You voided ur warranty when u downgraded (KNOX:0x1). No service centers will fix it (in theory) :highfive:
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Bro my warranty is still intact
I did not downgrade it yet because i dont know the correct method to do it
tdssmarty16 said:
Hey guys i have a samsung galaxy s4 on android 4.4.2 kitkat and i am not happy at all with the kitkat update since it has ruined battery life and is causing many other problems like lag and overheating
So i want to downgrade to the stock 4.2.2. I have never rooted my samsung galaxy s4 and i am still unrooted.
I know knox will be set to 0x1 after downgrading but i do not care about it as triangle away supports galaxy s4 now .
So here is what i want to know
If i download the proper 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile according to my country(India) and install it via odin then will the process work? and if it is the right procedure does it require root ?
Is there any chance that my phone can get bricked because of knox ?
and how should i take backup of efs in case of a possible imei error ?
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i have make downgrade to my phone i9500 form 4.4.2 to 4.2.2
with this firmware XFE-I9500XXUBMH1-20130927115211.zip
you can download form here >>> http://d-h.st/4bG
and wifi is ok and device is working so fine
but after i flash it's show the device is custom but i root it before
can u try it if you like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2755184
Thanx for the information buddy
I will try to flash this firmware with odin
As I know...
tdssmarty16 said:
Hey guys i have a samsung galaxy s4 on android 4.4.2 kitkat and i am not happy at all with the kitkat update since it has ruined battery life and is causing many other problems like lag and overheating
So i want to downgrade to the stock 4.2.2. I have never rooted my samsung galaxy s4 and i am still unrooted.
I know knox will be set to 0x1 after downgrading but i do not care about it as triangle away supports galaxy s4 now .
So here is what i want to know
If i download the proper 4.2.2 firmware from sammobile according to my country(India) and install it via odin then will the process work? and if it is the right procedure does it require root ?
Is there any chance that my phone can get bricked because of knox ?
and how should i take backup of efs in case of a possible imei error ?
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As I know, if you download an official firmware of samsung from sammobile, you can downgrade/upgrade your firmware without rooting, just flash via odin. Maybe you can uninstall KNOX first before downgrading, open KNOX mode and press menu and click uninstall KNOX. I hope this helps. Good Luck

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