Motorola warranty is worthless - X 2014 General

I have a 2014 Moto X, 16 GB with the bamboo back, on Verizon. The back is peeling off, and I've just finished speaking with Motorola.
I didn't buy the device - it was traded. Despite the fact that I have the box, the IMEI, and everything except the original order information, they refuse to help me. If I had the order info, I'd be well on my way to a new one, but without it, they're happy to leave me completely swinging by myself.
So if you're thinking about buying one used, or giving one as a gift... I wouldn't recommend it. They don't care, and couldn't be bothered to try and find a solution. Last motorola product I'll ever buy.

Not exactly Motorola's fault.

In what way? Tell me of another company that doesn't honor their warranty if you gift a device. It's not like I don't have the serial number, IMEI, and every other bit of info for the thing. Every other company on the planet uses serial numbers for warranties. It shouldn't matter who owns the device or if they kept their receipt. This isn't a pair of headphones from Best Buy, here.
Not only that, but it's a 2014. It can only be so old. It's not like this might somehow be out of warranty.

most if not all items for electronics.... from my past experience that the warranty is only for the original purchaser, its usually in the warranty policy, I buy and sell a lot of used phones, and I know that`s the chance I take of buying used.
below is from moto website
MOTOROLA MOBILITY INC.
LIMITED GLOBAL WARRANTY
MOBILE PHONES
FOR CONSUMERS WHO ARE COVERED BY CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS OR
REGULATIONS IN THEIR COUNTRY OF PURCHASE OR, IF DIFFERENT, THEIR COUNTRY OF
RESIDENCE, THE BENEFITS CONFERRED BY THIS LIMITED WARRANTY ARE IN ADDITION
TO ALL RIGHTS AND REMEDIES CONVEYED BY SUCH CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS
AND REGULATIONS.
Who is Covered?
This Limited Warranty extends only to the first consumer purchaser of the Product, and is not transferable.

It sucks, but I have never owned an electronic device where the warranty extends to the second hand market
You say it is the last Motorola phone you will ever buy, perhaps a wiser choice would be to make this the last second hand phone you ever buy.
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Can you not glue the back?

At the minimum you could send it in and they can reglue it or replace the back cover. It will cost you but it's better than nothing. You might be able to negotiate a deal.

You never get warranty coverage without proof of purchase, it's basically Warranty 101. My advice would be to contact the original seller and ask them if they can do a warranty return for you.

I have never heard of a company that warrants an item with no proof of purchase. Even with proof of purchase, the warranty on most consumer goods is not transferable.
Factory warranties on cars is the only case I can think of where they don't care about proof of purchase (because they already know when it was purchased).

One thing to keep in mind is that sometimes your experience will vary from rep to rep.
And also your attitude going into it is important as well.
I have a friend that gets no help ANYWHERE, and it's because of the manner in which he speaks. He's not outright rude, but he's a bit socially inept, so he comes off very abrasive. You can hear kindness. People like to help nice people.

dg4prez said:
In what way? Tell me of another company that doesn't honor their warranty if you gift a device. It's not like I don't have the serial number, IMEI, and every other bit of info for the thing. Every other company on the planet uses serial numbers for warranties. It shouldn't matter who owns the device or if they kept their receipt. This isn't a pair of headphones from Best Buy, here.
Not only that, but it's a 2014. It can only be so old. It's not like this might somehow be out of warranty.
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The micro USB port on my black 16gb X broke. I took it to my local brick & mortar Verizon store and they ordered a replacement device, no questions asked. They never asked to see any paperwork.
It sounds like you've got nothing to loose by trying the same thing?

dg4prez said:
I didn't buy the device - it was traded. Despite the fact that I have the box, the IMEI, and everything except the original order information, they refuse to help me. If I had the order info, I'd be well on my way to a new one, but without it, they're happy to leave me completely swinging by myself.
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Ask the seller for the info. I think it's good Motorola doesn't accept warranty without this information because thiefs will not have this info, only people who honestly bought it...
(btw it's very stupid for a company to not honor warranty, within the normal warranty period, for owners after the first owner because this severly impacts resell price and thus selling price)

You are correct.
Apple don't need proof of purchase for warranty, they have their own database based on IMEI/SN.
So if you purchase iPhone from Craigslist and it is still under warranty, Apple will still honor the warranty.
No Android OEM has this kind of customer service, not HTC/Motorola/Samsung/Google as far as I know.

I have read reports from some folks who successfully applied a small amount of glue under the peeled up wood, might be worth a try

dg4prez said:
I didn't buy the device - it was traded.
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Um. This is standard operating procedure for most companies.

sxp123731 said:
You are correct.
Apple don't need proof of purchase for warranty, they have their own database based on IMEI/SN.
So if you purchase iPhone from Craigslist and it is still under warranty, Apple will still honor the warranty.
No Android OEM has this kind of customer service, not HTC/Motorola/Samsung/Google as far as I know.
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My Nexus S that I bought used off eBay needed a screen replacement, and Samsung did so - no questions asked. Great experience. I haven't had to deal with an OEM for warranty since.

PhilDX said:
I have read reports from some folks who successfully applied a small amount of glue under the peeled up wood, might be worth a try
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You can either remove the whole back and re glue it or just use a very fine felt brush to apply glue to the edge of wood. Worked for me. Sent mine back because a different corner peeled. @dg4prez

Fix it your self, It does suck they wont honor a product under warranty.
I know a lot of companies who follow this rule but there are many companies who don't.
I always try and buy product from companies who have exceptional customer service and warranties, its worth it, even if you pay a little more.

I bought a Moto X for a friend of mine, my card, my email, my delivery address. He broke his screen a week later, he called them up and they asked him to send it in, charged him $120 for a new screen and sent him back a new phone, he never needes the order number or anything.
Last week i tore the leather on my moto x, called motorola, they asked for order number, email, address, charged me $25 and sent me a new phone and i will be sending back the one that has the torn back.
Guess it depends on who you speak with.
Also, as was mentioned earlier Apple warranties extend to any owner of the phone, since their proof of purchase comes up when the IMEI/SN is entered (you can even check warranty status on their website)
Only company that got close to this is samsung, i used to work in a cellphone shop and wed brick ALOT of phones testing things out, including note 3, s5 etc and samsung out always unbrick them for free even though we were not the original buyers.

2003vstrom said:
most if not all items for electronics.... from my past experience that the warranty is only for the original purchaser, its usually in the warranty policy, I buy and sell a lot of used phones, and I know that`s the chance I take of buying used.
below is from moto website
MOTOROLA MOBILITY INC.
LIMITED GLOBAL WARRANTY
MOBILE PHONES
FOR CONSUMERS WHO ARE COVERED BY CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS OR
REGULATIONS IN THEIR COUNTRY OF PURCHASE OR, IF DIFFERENT, THEIR COUNTRY OF
RESIDENCE, THE BENEFITS CONFERRED BY THIS LIMITED WARRANTY ARE IN ADDITION
TO ALL RIGHTS AND REMEDIES CONVEYED BY SUCH CONSUMER PROTECTION LAWS
AND REGULATIONS.
Who is Covered?
This Limited Warranty extends only to the first consumer purchaser of the Product, and is not transferable.
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That rule definitely would't survive here in Europe. No matter either written or not. It's against consumer protection regulations. And what is even more weird is that the provision is in direct conflict with freedom of contract principle. Neither state nor any third party could interfere with the contract without clear legal basis. Warranty refers to the sold good not to the person who bought it.

dg4prez said:
In what way? Tell me of another company that doesn't honor their warranty if you gift a device. It's not like I don't have the serial number, IMEI, and every other bit of info for the thing. Every other company on the planet uses serial numbers for warranties. It shouldn't matter who owns the device or if they kept their receipt. This isn't a pair of headphones from Best Buy, here.
Not only that, but it's a 2014. It can only be so old. It's not like this might somehow be out of warranty.
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Companies warranty to the original purchaser except if it is a gift. Did you register the device with them or did the original purchaser?

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[Q] Motorola Warranty? Ebay or Gifted Items

If you buy the xoom from ebay or even get it as a gift, will you still be able to use the motorola 1 year limited warranty or even be able to upgrade the radio to LTE 4g?
I have been reading that the warranty only covers the original purchaser, and the LTE 4g is only for the original purchase. Is there anyway around this?
For instance, could you still get it fixed/ upgraded if you have the original purchase receipt?
This sucks for people who get the Xoom as a gift or something.
Usually you'll need to have the original receipt with proof of purchase date. The receipt also usually needs to be from an "authorized" dealer, ie, not eBay, not a discount warehouse, not some guy out of his car.
If you have the original receipt, your chances are good.
Some companies also have a policy that if the device is released on X date, any warranty claims up to 1 year after that date are by default valid. However, you bet they'll want to see the receipt regardless to make sure you're the original purchaser.
One of the reasons I don't buy items like this on eBay unless I expect to completely throw my money away.
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Also, most warranties require some kind of registration of the device within X period of time. It's illegal in some states I believe but common practice in most. This gives them marketing information about their product, a chance to up-sell extended warranties,
know who the original purchaser of device X with Y serial number is, as well as where they bought it and when.
I think ASUS has a motherboard / video card warranty of 90 days, but if you register the device within the first 30 they extend the warranty to 1 or 3 years. BFG tech did a lifetime warranty if you registered the device.
Sirchuk said:
Usually you'll need to have the original receipt with proof of purchase date. The receipt also usually needs to be from an "authorized" dealer, ie, not eBay, not a discount warehouse, not some guy out of his car.
If you have the original receipt, your chances are good.
Some companies also have a policy that if the device is released on X date, any warranty claims up to 1 year after that date are by default valid. However, you bet they'll want to see the receipt regardless to make sure you're the original purchaser.
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So what if the original receipt has someone else's name/address on it?
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So what if the original receipt has someone else's name/address on it?
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Just say it was a gift from an aunt/uncle/brother/friend/whogivesacrap
have you tried square trade
does anyone know if they will warrant an unlocked phone? i read on Bell's website that their warranty is by the manufacturer's discretion, so i need to find out if motorola will accept it
I check the phone (Defy with suddenly dead earpiece) with Moto's online troubleshooting tools (and the tools show that the phone is under warranty), and was prompted to send it for repair. The shipping instructions say that I must "include proof of purchase (if required)". How should I deal with that? Include a note that this phone is a gift (it is), or just do not put anything? Should I pre-register the phone (and they may ask me how and when and where was it purchased) prior to sending it?
this was my original question too actually. Do you have a copy if the receipt? If not, I would start the process to send it back and then mention it was a gift or say you lost it. There really is nothing else for you to do but try. Even if you had the receipt. The shipping info on that proofbof purchase would be different than your own, but maybe you could just say you moved addresses since you bought it.
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myv6mustang said:
have you tried square trade
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I contacted SquareTrade yesterday about the same scenario and was told that an original receipt is necessary to have a plan with them...

U.S.A. warranty and Squaretrade insurance question. Please help!!!

I was looking to purchase a Samsung Galaxy SII i9100 (U.K. version) but I know that Samsung won't honor the warranty since its a not a U.S. phone.
I was reading some old threads on this about how for $94 Squaretrade will insure your phone for $600 for two years but some people said they would cover it and some said they wouldn't...
Then I got this directly from Squaretrade's website:
"Coverage Details
2 years of coverage: The SquareTrade Smartphone warranty covers your Smartphone for up to 2 years, starting on the date of purchase.
Covered Issues: Both accidents (e.g., broken screen or other damage through drops AND liquid damage including full immersion) and out-of-warranty normal use failures (e.g., battery no longer charging or other hardware failures) are covered. We do not cover loss, theft, willful damage or damage occurring through gross misuse."
This scared the hell out of me, I've never used Squaretrade before. Lets say something goes wrong and I contact them for support... wouldn't they just say "sorry we only cover out-of-warranty repairs you need to go to Samsung U.K. since you have a 1st year warranty through them" ???
Kind of a big purchase (over $600) so I need to be sure that I am covered before pulling the trigger
Also does anyone know the general cost of shipping a galaxy s i9100 from the U.S. to the U.K. for samsung to repair it?
Thanks for you help I really appreciate it.
P.S. in case anyone says to search I already looked through both of the U.S. warranty threads and didn't find an answer
If you a buy a phone in its country of intended sale from an authorized Samsung dealer it's covered by Samsung's two-year global warranty. So if you buy it in the UK and have it shipped to the U.S. it'll be covered as you'll have a receipt from the UK in GBP. Expansys-USA also sends phones they sell in the U.S. back to the UK for repair through their office there. Now that the phone's being sold in the U.S. there's a good chance you could get a UK phone under warranty repaired here. Samsung's very strict and requires a receipt and/or a credit card statement before they repair a phone under warranty. They also have a DB of serial numbers that show which phones were sent to which resellers. Their warranty system is hard to scam.
SquareTrade does cover gray market phones. This is from their T&C:
If the manufacturer refuses to honor their warranty because they consider your item grey market or not purchased from an authorized retailer, we will still cover you.
And yes, assuming you get your phone from the UK or from Expansys-USA, SquareTrade only covers what the manufacturer doesn't. But if you crack the screen or cause damage to the phone that Samsung woudn't cover it's still good to have SquareTrade as a back-up.
Owning a gray market phone is a pain in the ass if something goes wrong. If it has to be repaired in the UK you'll be without for a couple of weeks. If you want the safety and security of carrier insurance and swaps for defects stick with an American version.
BarryH_GEG said:
If you a buy a phone in its country of intended sale from an authorized Samsung dealer it's covered by Samsung's two-year global warranty.
Expansys-USA also sends phones they sell in the U.S. back to the UK for repair through their office there.
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So if I purchase through Expansys-USA that means I still have the 2 year (or is it 1 year since it was bought from a Expansys branch in the States?) warranty and if anything goes wrong I send it to their U.S. branch which then forwards it to their U.K. branch to get repaired?
Is there any sort of warranty f.a.q. on Expansys website that says this in writing that I can print out? I looked on their website and found nothing detailing this U.S. to U.K. forwarding process and don't wan't to have something go wrong and then later on an Expansys-USA rep that doesn't know much telling me "Ooooh no sir, we don't do that... you have to go through Samsung U.K. yourself to get repairs"
BarryH_GEG said:
Owning a gray market phone is a pain in the ass if something goes wrong. If it has to be repaired in the UK you'll be without for a couple of weeks. If you want the safety and security of carrier insurance and swaps for defects stick with an American version.
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Gezz why the heck does Samsung make it so hard for Americans? You'd think they would want to make it easier for potential customers to buy their products that make them money instead of blacklisting the product from warranty and turning sales away
ap3604 said:
So if I purchase through Expansys-USA that means I still have the 2 year (or is it 1 year since it was bought from a Expansys branch in the States?) warranty and if anything goes wrong I send it to their U.S. branch which then forwards it to their U.K. branch to get repaired?
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In essence, Expansys is your warranty. I'm guessing they act as middle-man for the life of the Samsung warranty which, internationally, is two years. You really need to check with them.
Is there any sort of warranty f.a.q. on Expansys website that says this in writing that I can print out? I looked on their website and found nothing detailing this U.S. to U.K. forwarding process and don't wan't to have something go wrong and then later on an Expansys-USA rep that doesn't know much telling me "Ooooh no sir, we don't do that... you have to go through Samsung U.K. yourself to get repairs"
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E-mail their sales group and ask them to send you an e-mail confirming their policy. If you want to buy the phone in the UK, Handtec, Clove, and CleverBoxes all ship to the U.S.
Gezz why the heck does Samsung make it so hard for Americans? You'd think they would want to make it easier for potential customers to buy their products that make them money instead of blacklisting the product from warranty and turning sales away
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The U.S. carriers are their bread and butter. They'd rather funnel all their sales through them rather than compete by selling unlocked phones direct.
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ap3604 said:
I was looking to purchase a Samsung Galaxy SII i9100 (U.K. version) but I know that Samsung won't honor the warranty since its a not a U.S. phone.
I was reading some old threads on this about how for $94 Squaretrade will insure your phone for $600 for two years but some people said they would cover it and some said they wouldn't...
Then I got this directly from Squaretrade's website:
"Coverage Details
2 years of coverage: The SquareTrade Smartphone warranty covers your Smartphone for up to 2 years, starting on the date of purchase.
Covered Issues: Both accidents (e.g., broken screen or other damage through drops AND liquid damage including full immersion) and out-of-warranty normal use failures (e.g., battery no longer charging or other hardware failures) are covered. We do not cover loss, theft, willful damage or damage occurring through gross misuse."
This scared the hell out of me, I've never used Squaretrade before. Lets say something goes wrong and I contact them for support... wouldn't they just say "sorry we only cover out-of-warranty repairs you need to go to Samsung U.K. since you have a 1st year warranty through them" ???
Kind of a big purchase (over $600) so I need to be sure that I am covered before pulling the trigger
Also does anyone know the general cost of shipping a galaxy s i9100 from the U.S. to the U.K. for samsung to repair it?
Thanks for you help I really appreciate it.
P.S. in case anyone says to search I already looked through both of the U.S. warranty threads and didn't find an answer
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Simple, throw it into the toiled before claiming the insurance.

Dead Moto-G with unlocked bootloader: succesful warranty claim at Bol.com

Hi all,
I know there are some people stuck with a dead Moto G that has an unlocked bootloader and the shop where they bought it unwilling to accept the responsibility to honor warranty claims. I just received confirmation from a large online retailer - Bol.com that they are honoring my warranty claim for precisely this issue.
The defect was that the phone would not power up anymore at all; similar to a couple of cases I have read about on these forums. Important: the phone went dead within 6 months of the purchase.
The way I managed them to honor their obligations was to contact thuiswinkel-waarborg and file a complaint.
In this complaint I made sure to point out that warranty was declined without providing proof that unlocking the phone had been the cause of the defect. Since the burden of proof lies with the seller within the first 6 months, they were in breach of the regulations from thuiswinkel-waarborg by refusing the warranty claim in this manner.
The seller tried to convince the hardware service center to fix the phone under warranty but was unsuccesful. Too bad for the seller, but this is the risk they take on themselves; this has no impact on the rights to warranty that the customer has (at least in Europe)
Personally I opted to receive a full refund since during the several weeks it took to convince them I am right I got another phone. My next phone will be from a manufacturer that does not void warranty when unlocking/rooting since I can't be bothered with going through these discussions every time a phone dies (which they seem to keep doing all the time these days)
If you have further questions including details about the email and phone conversations I had with the seller please send me a PM.
Especially if you bought your phone at Bol.com you may be interested in a referral to my warranty case, in order to strengthen your own warranty claim. I will do all I can to help out any of you who are stuck in the same position and have not given up on getting compensated, as the law requires.
Cheers,
Sandor
Poor seller. He should sue motorola for exchanging the unit and/or refund full amount. That seller would never sell another motorola phone cause of this. Not a good business practice for motorola.
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Poor seller. He should sue motorola for exchanging the unit and/or refund full amount. That seller would never sell another motorola phone cause of this. Not a good business practice for motorola.
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Actually, Bol.com is a giant online retailer that makes enormous amounts of profit.
They will keep selling products from manufacturers that refuse to honor warranty claims since the bottom line will still be positive for them.
In the end, a large portion of consumers so affected will never learn about their rights and simply accept their loss.
Also, there is no reason to believe that they will change their warranty policy concerning this issue either.
This means that for those who *do* know that their consumer rights are being violated they'll have to go through the same lengthy email/phone conversations I have had to endure. Hopefully, using my method and referring to my case will help smooth-en this process a bit.
As far as bad business practice is concerned; as a consumer i only care about my relationship with the reseller; it will take some time before I will start ordering goods from Bol.com again, since they made this warrantly claim such a painful experience for me. Motorola can do whatever they want in their business practices; it is not of my concern. I do care about the quality of their products however, and since they seem to be under par, i will not buy Motorola products again in the future.

Warranty Claim - Need advice

My Verizon 10 has formed a yellow band on the right side of the screen. I would like to send it in for repair, but I bought the phone second hand and am not using it on the verizon network.
1) Would Verizon accept my warranty claim without a receipt or VZW account?
2) Would HTC repair it under warranty as if I bought it from them?
3) if the answer to 2) is no, would HTC repair it at a cost, and does anyone know how much a screen replacement costs?
Getting in touch with the original owner is not possible either. Any help would be appreciated!
Update: Just finished speaking with htc, they will accept my warranty claim directly! Hope they don't surprise me with a cost quote now!
Verizon won't do anything for you. The only way they would is if you are the original purchaser, in which case they will replace the device if it's within the manufacturer's 1 year warranty. HTC *might* do something for you, but I'm not too knowledgeable on their warranty policy. There's a good chance they will restrict warranty service to the original purchaser, or tell you that since it's a Verizon phone, you'll have to go through them. HTC does offer a one-time "uh-oh" protection, but that's limited to people who purchased their phone through HTC.com.
You can try it yourself, the digitizer runs around $70 on eBay, but it isn't a simple repair. Otherwise, most screen repair services charge in the $150-$200 range.
Here's the HTC warranty information. It looks like you'll want to have the phone 100% stock with locked bootloader and s-on. http://dl4.htc.com/Web_materials/Ma...evA.PDF?_ga=1.178459428.1435750642.1485623721
From the Warranty disclosure:
"A copy of the original invoice, receipt or bill of sale for the purchase of the Product or Accessory. You
must present a valid proof of purchase upon making any claims pursuant to this Limited Warranty. If no valid proof of purchase is supplied and the Product or Accessory was manufactured more than fifteen (15) months prior to the date the claim is made, HTC has no obligation to provide support under the Limited Warranty."
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Verizon won't do anything for you. The only way they would is if you are the original purchaser, in which case they will replace the device if it's within the manufacturer's 1 year warranty. HTC *might* do something for you, but I'm not too knowledgeable on their warranty policy. There's a good chance they will restrict warranty service to the original purchaser, or tell you that since it's a Verizon phone, you'll have to go through them. HTC does offer a one-time "uh-oh" protection, but that's limited to people who purchased their phone through HTC.com.
You can try it yourself, the digitizer runs around $70 on eBay, but it isn't a simple repair. Otherwise, most screen repair services charge in the $150-$200 range.
Here's the HTC warranty information. It looks like you'll want to have the phone 100% stock with locked bootloader and s-on. http://dl4.htc.com/Web_materials/Ma...evA.PDF?_ga=1.178459428.1435750642.1485623721
From the Warranty disclosure:
"A copy of the original invoice, receipt or bill of sale for the purchase of the Product or Accessory. You
must present a valid proof of purchase upon making any claims pursuant to this Limited Warranty. If no valid proof of purchase is supplied and the Product or Accessory was manufactured more than fifteen (15) months prior to the date the claim is made, HTC has no obligation to provide support under the Limited Warranty."
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Thanks, everything that you said is about what I was expecting myself. But htc surprised me by accepting it as an in-warranty claim. We'll see how it goes.
Tarima said:
Thanks, everything that you said is about what I was expecting myself. But htc surprised me by accepting it as an in-warranty claim. We'll see how it goes.
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That's good to hear. I'd wager it's because the date of manufacture is well within the 12 months, since I don't think the HTC 10 has even been out a year. It says a lot about a company that they're honoring their warranty when, technically, the don't have to.
That's awesome and it definitely says a lot about what type of company HTC is. They have been my go to for years and I'm so happy to continue backing them when they make business decisions like these.
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That's awesome and it definitely says a lot about what type of company HTC is. They have been my go to for years and I'm so happy to continue backing them when they make business decisions like these.
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True, I was also impressed when I had my m7 and they offered to fix my purple-tinted camera for free way after the warranty was over (I didn't go for it because they said I would absolutely have to pay to fix my screen at the same time even though I didn't want to). But I've also heard bad things about their customer service (for example at the launch of the 10). This is my first time dealing with a warranty claim with HTC so I'll cross my fingers it goes well.
Update for anyone in a similar situation: HTC replaced the screen and shipped the phone back to me from Texas to Montreal, Canada overnight at no charge. The whole process including my own shipping took only 8 days, pretty impressive. And not a single dent/scratch or other trace of the repair. Very impressed with this service.
Only downside is having to pay 40$ shipping with insurance for a faulty device, but considering I didn't have a receipt I won't complain too much here!

Warranty: Verizon to Google

I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
So you are basically asking us how to defraud Google?
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So you are basically asking us how to defraud Google?
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And is not it necessary for Verizon to ask for an unlock? I'm also interested in this
Should have bought a unlocked version to start with.
godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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A warranty replacement will most likely end up giving you the same device but refurbished as the purpose of warranties is to fix your device/item with the exact one but without the defect.
To me it looks like your asking if google can give you a non-verizon one in exchange for your Verizon edition. That's not how a warranty exchange works. As much as I would like to change the color of my 2 XL, I'm stuck with what I CHOSE.
Why not try calling Google themselves and ask them so you can speak with them directly?
Travisdroidx2 said:
Should have bought a unlocked version to start with.
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I hate this answer bro. No offense. Not everyone can afford $900 upfront. And their finance option isn't that easy to get approval.
slogar25 said:
I hate this answer bro. No offense. Not everyone can afford $900 upfront. And their finance option isn't that easy to get approval.
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You can get an unlocked one for the same price as the Verizon model.
It doesn't make it okay to buy a red car through a private seller and then ask the dealer to give you a blue one because you don't like the blue, although the red one is perfectly fine. He chose the Verizon one, he's stuck with it.
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You can get an unlocked one for the same price as the Verizon model.
It doesn't make it okay to buy a red car through a private seller and then ask the dealer to give you a blue one because you don't like the blue, although the red one is perfectly fine. He chose the Verizon one, he's stuck with it.
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Point taken. Your previous statement had nothing to do with his situation. He bought it off of Craigslist because I'm assuming didn't want to pay out right for it from Google. And Verizon doesn't sell unlocked ones. Like I said I have good credit and still couldn't get approved through Google financing but because I'm a Verizon customer in good standing all it took for me was to walk in the door
godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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The warranty on the device is valid only for the person who originally bought it. Since you are not the original buyer, the warranty is null and void. Requesting an exchange because of the bootloader being locked would not be honored even if you were the original purchaser of the device; bootloader locking is not a defect.
You're not going to be able to convince Google to swap devices. So, you either deal with what you have, or sell it on Swappa and get something else.
What have we learned from this boys and girls? Never to buy smartphones off Craigslist. Because if you get lucky, you just end up not being able to unlock a bootloader. If you get really lucky, the IMEI is blacklisted and the police confiscate the device because it was stolen, leaving you out of pocket the amount you spent, with nothing to show for it.
I very much made this mistake in Australia with getting a nexus 6P... It had the horrendous battery issue and the person I bought it off would NOT give me a receipt... So even though the phone was under warranty... It was null and void. I made numous calls to google... To the place the device was bought from... But they couldn't do anything. I bought myself a pixel xl 2 and I got the guy to give me the receipt and proof of purchase. You will not be able to swap the device for an unlocked model... If you have the receipt and it needed to be replaced, they would give you the exact same model/locked to Verizon. Even if it would not a new device... Sorry mate, you are out of luck indefinitely
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godrick15 said:
I bought mine via craigslist. Warranty is still good for another year but it was not transferred to me. How can I convince Google to send me an unlocked bootloader? Phone is in perfect condition with everything working. Came with original box.
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Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
The warranty on the device is valid only for the person who originally bought it. Since you are not the original buyer, the warranty is null and void. Requesting an exchange because of the bootloader being locked would not be honored even if you were the original purchaser of the device; bootloader locking is not a defect.
You're not going to be able to convince Google to swap devices. So, you either deal with what you have, or sell it on Swappa and get something else.
What have we learned from this boys and girls? Never to buy smartphones off Craigslist. Because if you get lucky, you just end up not being able to unlock a bootloader. If you get really lucky, the IMEI is blacklisted and the police confiscate the device because it was stolen, leaving you out of pocket the amount you spent, with nothing to show for it.
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Warranty on pixel 2 does not even go by the owner. It goes by the imei. So long as that number is not out of warranty from the original date of purchase and the phone has not been blacklisted by verizon or google the warranty is not void. They will only ask your name and address and such if they are going to send a replacement. They will ask for a first name when tou are first begin to conversate with them, but will not ask full name unless they are going to replace phone.
They will not do it just to unlock your bootloader. There needs to be a legitimate problem with the phone.
@smartymcfly: Google makes a copy of the device warranty available on their support pages. The Pixel 2 XL warranty reads, in part...
This Limited Warranty is only valid and enforceable in locations the Phone is sold and will apply only if you purchased your Phone from Google or its authorized resellers.
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The OP did not buy the phone from Google, Best Buy, Verizon, or any other authorized reseller and thus the warranty is null and void. The only value the IMEI has is determining the phone's date of manufacture. The warranty however starts on the date of purchase, which could be months later.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
@smartymcfly: Google makes a copy of the device warranty available on their support pages. The Pixel 2 XL warranty reads, in part...
The OP did not buy the phone from Google, Best Buy, Verizon, or any other authorized reseller and thus the warranty is null and void. The only value the IMEI has is determining the phone's date of manufacture. The warranty however starts on the date of purchase, which could be months later.
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This is not true because many phones are purchased by one person and given or purchased by another. I know this because I purchased a phone for my sister with my credit card and then she paid me for it, so she bought it from me and she had to send it in for an RMA.
When you call google they want imei number. That is what detirmines if a phone is under warranty or not. Google uses imei to verify the phones end of warranty date.
Think about the process if younhave ever RMAd a device that was google nexus or pixel. They want the imei number and then only ask for your full name when they ask for a mailing address.
While what you say is true, the truth is not always black and white.
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While what you say is true, the truth is not always black and white.
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In your case you bought direct from Google and gave the device as a gift, even if you did get paid back, which is why the warranty still applied to your phone. The OP bought his secondhand, off Craigslist. The moment money exchanged hands the warranty became null and void. The OP pointed out the warranty did not transfer over in his opening post. He therefore must have contacted Google, who then told him the warranty was invalid.
Google being liberal with the warranty does not invalidate its existence. We are all bound by its terms and conditions.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
In your case you bought direct from Google and gave the device as a gift, even if you did get paid back, which is why the warranty still applied to your phone. The OP bought his secondhand, off Craigslist. The moment money exchanged hands the warranty became null and void. The OP pointed out the warranty did not transfer over in his opening post. He therefore must have contacted Google, who then told him the warranty was invalid.
Google being liberal with the warranty does not invalidate its existence. We are all bound by its terms and conditions.
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Which means whoever the seller on Craigslist was probably wasn't the orinal owner with original receipt of sale. Or more than likely the imei isn't clear
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
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Craigslist isn't a seller... As much as it sells stuff... If OP had got a receipt and signed into there name..legally the device is owned by them. But because they didnt. It's not even technically there's as no receipt was made or anything. If they wanted to they could report the device as stolen and there would be nothing you could do about it.
Which leads back to my life lesson about Craigslist in my first post in this thread.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
That may be, but we simply don't know for sure. All we do know is that the OP's warranty is void. The warranty for the phone itself specifies that the warranty only applies if purchased from Google or one of its authorized resellers, e.g. Best Buy, Verizon, or Amazon. Since Craigslist is not an authorized reseller, the warranty is void, period.
On a side note, if you head to Google's support pages and start the process of a RMA, they require an order number. This is to ensure that the phone was purchased from Google or an authorized reseller. So is Google being nice and not verifying the phone was even purchased before authorizing the RMA, or are people simply omitting the fact the order number is required when mentioning that they received a RMA?
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I got my P2XL from eBay... When i called Google about the AA issue, i even told them i got it from eBay, even emailed them the purchase receipt...
They still were going to RMA my phone and told me the warranty was still good. So I'm not totally sure if the see an eBay seller as an authorized dealer, but they surely treated it as such

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