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Nokia Lumia 920 vs Z2 (LOW LIGHT)

I was curious to see how well the 920 did against the Z2 so I went out and purchased one to take some stills.
Below are the results.

Where are the results and why compare a windows phone with an Android one ?
Sent From My Personal MW Revolution On My Xperia Z2

Results will be ongoing. Posting pics today and will be on a regular basis. As to why? Why not. 920 is known for being one of the best low light cameras. Here we can see and compare a flagship to a 2 year old windows phone

Pandemic said:
Where are the results and why compare a windows phone with an Android one ?
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Why ever not?
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Just uploaded all photos to my PC. Will go through them so all can see them side by side for each situation. All photos are from.inside my house with different lighting and this is where I find cameras struggle. I have children so taking photos indoors happens often.

Z2

920

Ignore above. This is the z2 photo. More vibrant. Above 2 are both from 929.

ipmanwck said:
Ignore above. This is the z2 photo. More vibrant. Above 2 are both from 929.
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I meant 920!

Why not attach images in the same post?
Xda doesnt need wasteful post, not to mean this is wasteful

Z2 under desk at 4pm today

920 same time

920

Z2

ipmanwck said:
I was curious to see how well the 920 did against the Z2 so I went out and purchased one to take some stills.
Below are the results.
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You shooting these in superior auto? White balance seems totally off!
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@ipmanwck it might be better to keep all the comparison images in the OP, it's a pain for members who are interested having to scroll through a thread to find each image. (I know it's a small thread for now but with more posts it won't be) Let me know and I can help do this for you.
Regards,

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@ipmanwck it might be better to keep all the comparison images in the OP, it's a pain for members who are interested having to scroll through a thread to find each image. (I know it's a small thread for now but with more posts it won't be) Let me know and I can help do this for you.
Regards,
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I tried but on my PC it asked for image url and would not let me just upload from pictures? Thanks for the advice though and if you know how I would prefer that way. Lots more photos.

zodiac100 said:
You shooting these in superior auto? White balance seems totally off!
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Both phones set to auto and also auto focus. Z2 set to superior auto but test for yourself in darkness Z2 as seen here does strange things. Please note I am keeping my z2 as windows os is too limited for my use but this is purely an experiment I wanted to do as I knew the 920 is probably the best low light camera phone.

test in the water
lol it's Unparalleled

xrenoix said:
lol it's Unparalleled
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It's defo a strange one. Overall if I were someone buying a phone just for camera performance I would choose 920 due to wider angle lens and manual controls (not used here) BUT the z2 has better camera apps, faster shutter speed (just) and the ability to take 60 2mp photos in a blink of an eye (timeshift burst). Tis a pickle
I forgot to mention have you ever tried to send a video taken on the camera using your android phone? try it now
Windows will compress your video so you can send it Android will just refuse pretty crappy Google!
Camera aside windows is a limited os and not an option for android users.

(Camera Comparison) AM7 vs Sony Xperia Z2 - I own both

I really enjoy the Z2 camera experience but the slow shutter speed when using the on screen button started to bug me. I was intending on buying the Nexus 6 or Note 4 but they both left me feeling underwhelmed so I decided on the AM7.
In this thread I will be taking photos every opportunity I can and posting them here.
All photos will have the AM7 first and the Z2 second for continuity.
Auto mode or superior auto (Z2) will be used at all times and regardless of what anyone has to say about auto modes that's what most people use!
I will post from either phone when I can so every upload will be from the XDA app.
Please keep comments constructive
Any trolling or unacceptable comments will be reported to the moderator.
Enjoy the pics

AM7 is the first photo and the Z2 is the second one on both photos.
The photos were taken at 2330hrs with only an overhead standard bulb.
I describe these conditions as dingy at best. No flash used and auto mode used for both photos.

ipmanwck said:
AM7 is the first photo and the Z2 is the second one on both photos.
The photos were taken at 2330hrs with only an overhead standard bulb.
I describe these conditions as dingy at best. No flash used and auto mode used for both photos.
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In ur opinion which phone is better ?

hannanzikrea said:
In ur opinion which phone is better ?
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Need more time. Only had the phone for a day.
From first impressions shutter speed is amazingly fast like iphone 6 fast or htc one. Low light pictures display some noise but the z2 does also. Framerate of camera app is similar to z2 so that's a good thing. More testing required but the handset is extremely high end and happy I went with this rather than nexus 6 or Note 4.
Screen and brightness is great and speaker is very loud indeed!

Nice looking forward to other comparisons
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Yes, looks very good i'm gonna test it too

All additional photos would be greatly appreciated.
Let's keep this thread professional. Lots more photos taken today in bad light. I must say I am impressed. I was very worried about the camera from what reviews had said but it's a good sensor and looks like huawei did a good thing by not using too much processing etc.

I have more z2 photos but decide to sell it and keep my AM7 so you can find more of my photos here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970
I will be uploading more comparisons but not immediately

People are complaining about Huawei's poor cameras but these photos are comparable to any phone. Not so bad.
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mirchichamu said:
People are complaining about Huawei's poor cameras but these photos are comparable to any phone. Not so bad.
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These people who are saying the camera is bad are talking rubbish I took some amazing shots today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970 I am using the European model so no idea if its different to the chinese version

ipmanwck said:
These people who are saying the camera is bad are talking rubbish I took some amazing shots today http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2916970 I am using the European model so no idea if its different to the chinese version
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Thanks. My worries are now removed regarding camera. I am going to order one soon. Good luck.
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wow mate 8 camera not bad at all beside note 5

just watched this great video
i thought mate 8 camera was crap
but it is not bad at all
see with your self
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ey0PcNkl19Q
http://highonandroid.com/android-smartphones/huawei-mate-8-vs-galaxy-note-5-camera-comparison/
was gitting lg v10 for camera
but i might go for mate 8 now after this show
camera just need great software with good Image processing

Mate 8 camera is good enough for me

Just got my phone delivered yesterday and with the few pics I've tested so far, it reminded me how hyper-critical reviews can be from the "experts." The reviews have a tendancy to knock down otherwise amazing devices, just because of the reviewer's own personal feel for what a camera "should" be or do, and/or the user interface that might not be what people are used to. Without even having really set up my phone completely yet (save for Contacts and Calendar sync), I absolutely love this phone and the pics I've taken have been great. The image stabilization on this thing is ridiculously good, which is great for someone like me, who doesn't necessarily have the steadiest hands.

drexappeal said:
Just got my phone delivered yesterday and with the few pics I've tested so far, it reminded me how hyper-critical reviews can be from the "experts." The reviews have a tendancy to knock down otherwise amazing devices, just because of the reviewer's own personal feel for what a camera "should" be or do, and/or the user interface that might not be what people are used to. Without even having really set up my phone completely yet (save for Contacts and Calendar sync), I absolutely love this phone and the pics I've taken have been great. The image stabilization on this thing is ridiculously good, which is great for someone like me, who doesn't necessarily have the steadiest hands.
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great
show me some photos with your mate 8 :fingers-crossed:

rowihel2012 said:
great
show me some photos with your mate 8 :fingers-crossed:
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I've been slowly getting to set it up, so it is ready to go when I activate the prepaid T-mobile SIM, but I will try to post some shots this weekend. I am not the best photographer though. One thing I can say that is being underrated is the OIS. For someone like me, who doesn't have the steadiest hands, it is great for point and shoot.
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Here's just random no effort taken either
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I´d say the overall quality of mate 8 is great! I took these on Firmware C900B133 (NXT-AL10 >> L29) in "normal" mode without effects or editing, only shrinked to half size
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With electric or emitted light, the pictures are abit more noisy, but im happy even with low-light scenarios.

thomascook said:
I´d say the overall quality of mate 8 is great! I took these on Firmware C900B133 (NXT-AL10 >> L29) in "normal" mode without effects or editing, only shrinked to half size
Frosty Seaside
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With electric or emitted light, the pictures are abit more noisy, but im happy even with low-light scenarios.
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Wow! These photos are great !

Can someone replicate / take a picture of the moon as show below?
took that one with the LG G4 manual mode.

Take a look at the night scene on GSMArena. Camera from Mate 8 is one of the best for very fine details, colour rendition, image processing (without halos, sharpening artifacts, smudging etc). Compare it with the best cameras (Samsung Galaxy s6 edge plus, LG G4 etc) and you'll see. I was very impressed and surprised, too. Sorry, I can't post examples /screenshots. Have a nice day !

The camera is great i have also Nexus 6p and i dont See any difference.

I took this pic last night. No flash, just street/ambient lights and auto focus on camera.
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i dont like the camera peroformance .my old p8max had better camera
focus not great with night shots with mate 8 and all photosdeailes not good like my note 5
note 5 cam is way better
but mate 8 is more powerfull and way faster

The camera on the Mate 8 is good. It's about on par with my Nexus 6. It's great outdoors and good in most low light situations. The front camera on the Mate 8 is probably one of the best though. Here's a pic of me and the wife taken with the front camera in a restaurant with very dim lighting.

rowihel2012 said:
i dont like the camera peroformance .my old p8max had better camera
focus not great with night shots with mate 8 and all photosdeailes not good like my note 5
note 5 cam is way better
but mate 8 is more powerfull and way faster
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I feel same difference. Note 5 has superior camera. I am thinking to sell Mate 8 and go back to Note 5. Nexus 6p has better photos too especially macro.
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ajsmsg78 said:
The camera on the Mate 8 is good. It's about on par with my Nexus 6. It's great outdoors and good in most low light situations. The front camera on the Mate 8 is probably one of the best though. Here's a pic of me and the wife taken with the front camera in a restaurant with very dim lighting.
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yea front cam is great

bondro said:
I feel same difference. Note 5 has superior camera. I am thinking to sell Mate 8 and go back to Note 5. Nexus 6p has better photos too especially macro.
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if youre so fixed on the camera, why dont u rather get urself an actual.....*drumroll*....camera? just sayin

jbmc83 said:
if youre so fixed on the camera, why dont u rather get urself an actual.....*drumroll*....camera? just sayin
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i need pro cam to
but not going to reblace that beast with the crappy touchwiz small screen note 5

lol, good choice my friend

bondro said:
I feel same difference. Note 5 has superior camera. I am thinking to sell Mate 8 and go back to Note 5. Nexus 6p has better photos too especially macro.
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LOL the note 5 camera is a little better but it shouldn't make or break your decision to stick with the Mate 8. I mean, maybe I should sell my Mate 8 as well because it's nowhere near as good as my DSLR.

Mate 8 camera?

Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?

Demitha said:
Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?
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Unless you need a phone desperately, why not wait on the Mate 9? It`ll be out soon with supposedly a much better camera.
Fwiw, i passed on the 8 because of its camera and UI. Loved everything else though.

vapotrini said:
Unless you need a phone desperately, why not wait on the Mate 9? It`ll be out soon with supposedly a much better camera.
Fwiw, i passed on the 8 because of its camera and UI. Loved everything else though.
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My lg g4 had bootloop problem, i cant wait till m9 , anyone could tell me how m8 camera compares with LG g4 camera?

Demitha said:
Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?
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I think the camera is pretty good, for a pinhole camera. The problem a LOT of people have is they don't know how to take a photograph.
I don't care if it does have OIS, you still need to hold the device STILL. I've been a photographer for over 40 years. If you don't hold it still,
your photo will look like crap. Also, people will shoot into the light, blame the camera, shoot in dark light, blame the camera.
Also, first thing I do when I get a new phone, is DITCH the camera app and use Camera FV-5, which gives you more control over the photo.
People are quick to blame the phone/camera, when 1/2 the time, it's the person pushing the shutter that is the real problem.

p51d007 said:
I think the camera is pretty good, for a pinhole camera. The problem a LOT of people have is they don't know how to take a photograph.
I don't care if it does have OIS, you still need to hold the device STILL. I've been a photographer for over 40 years. If you don't hold it still,
your photo will look like crap. Also, people will shoot into the light, blame the camera, shoot in dark light, blame the camera.
Also, first thing I do when I get a new phone, is DITCH the camera app and use Camera FV-5, which gives you more control over the photo.
People are quick to blame the phone/camera, when 1/2 the time, it's the person pushing the shutter that is the real problem.
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do you have a personal experience with the camera? i used G4 before. camera on that was pretty good.

I'd say the camera on the Mate 8 is fine. Go ahead and pick it up.

ShadowCodeGaming said:
I'd say the camera on the Mate 8 is fine. Go ahead and pick it up.
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Appreciate it

Demitha said:
do you have a personal experience with the camera? i used G4 before. camera on that was pretty good.
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I've been using the mate8 for almost a month now. For a camera phone, it does pretty well.

p51d007 said:
I've been using the mate8 for almost a month now. For a camera phone, it does pretty well.
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Awesome, Buying tomorrow.

İ used lg g4 and 950xl before this both were great camera phones, ofc they were better than mate 8 but i cant say mate have a bad camera it is quite decent i think
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Demitha said:
Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?
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Its like comparing a Ferrari to a Citroen
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Demitha said:
Im about to buy mate 8, Camera is crappy as they say? how good is to compering to lg g4?
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I returned my G4 to Amazon after 7 months, it was already giving signs of bootloop... And I took a Mate 8 with the money... I want to be sincere, the phone is Awesome, above all the battery... But the media part is far from being comparable. The camera does below average quality photos during the day, but with low light You'll see a lot of noise... Plus the standard click and shoot sometimes fails to focus where you want... The video are better BUT if you film a concert the audio will be pure crap.

bellbill said:
Its like comparing a Ferrari to a Citroen
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I returned my G4 to Amazon after 7 months, it was already giving signs of bootloop... And I took a Mate 8 with the money... I want to be sincere, the phone is Awesome, above all the battery... But the media part is far from being comparable. The camera does below average quality photos during the day, but with low light You'll see a lot of noise... Plus the standard click and shoot sometimes fails to focus where you want... The video are better BUT if you film a concert the audio will be pure crap.
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hope the android 7 update fix all this problems, i hear the beta is already out.

Demitha said:
My lg g4 had bootloop problem, i cant wait till m9 , anyone could tell me how m8 camera compares with LG g4 camera?
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G4 camera is way ahead, unfortunately. That's not to say the Mate8's camera is really bad, but it's not as good as the one in the G4.

Maybe I'm crazy, but I thought the G4's photos were full of noise when you zoom in, and I'm really happy with the Mate 8's photos. I particularly appreciate the automatic sharpening that the Huawei does by taking multiple photos and combining the information. (You can see this happens when it says "sharpening photo, hold the camera steady". It takes about half a second, and it only happens in low light photos.)
The G4 also really bothered me in that it turned on its "beautify" setting all by itself, no matter how many times I turned it off. It made me look like a goddam barbie doll--any photo taken with that setting was worthless and had to be discarded.
On the other hand, I've never had a serious complaint about the Mate 8's camera.

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Maybe I'm crazy, but I thought the G4's photos were full of noise when you zoom in, and I'm really happy with the Mate 8's photos. I particularly appreciate the automatic sharpening that the Huawei does by taking multiple photos and combining the information. (You can see this happens when it says "sharpening photo, hold the camera steady". It takes about half a second, and it only happens in low light photos.)
The G4 also really bothered me in that it turned on its "beautify" setting all by itself, no matter how many times I turned it off. It made me look like a goddam barbie doll--any photo taken with that setting was worthless and had to be discarded.
On the other hand, I've never had a serious complaint about the Mate 8's camera.
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Beauty filter on the Mate8 also auto-enables.
G4 camera simply is better, due to the larger sensor.
But as this is a Huawei thread only the positive things count I guess.

Hey mate 8 users, today i went to the shop but the mate 8 was out of juice, shop owner plugged the device in to the charger after 5 mins of charging device didn't turn on, this went on for 20 mins, after about 30 mins he could start it, soon as power came on i tried to check the camera, device powered down soon as i open the camera. is this normal?

ANyone?

A normal mate 8 works perfectly without any issues.

Pfeffernuss said:
Beauty filter on the Mate8 also auto-enables.
G4 camera simply is better, due to the larger sensor.
But as this is a Huawei thread only the positive things count I guess.
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1) Thanks, didn't know that. My usage patterns must have changed. I didn't realize I stopped taking selfies with girls.
2) It may have a larger sensor size, but the firmware is inferior. See my comments about pixelation on the G4 versus multi-image sharpening on the Mate 8.
3) Only positive things count? Aren't I the only one that said anything negative about the LG G4 camera? The bias is on your side of the court, not mine. I suggest you don't go into data analysis.

fenstre said:
1) Thanks, didn't know that. My usage patterns must have changed. I didn't realize I stopped taking selfies with girls.
2) It may have a larger sensor size, but the firmware is inferior. See my comments about pixelation on the G4 versus multi-image sharpening on the Mate 8.
3) Only positive things count? Aren't I the only one that said anything negative about the LG G4 camera? The bias is on your side of the court, not mine. I suggest you don't go into data analysis.
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your saying mate 8 camera is better than G4? mate 8 photos looks washed out dont they? very soft, co lours are not poping like g4.

Pro camera app request fot photographers

camera configuration on this phone could risult in insane quality:
I had nexus 5 and I made photos of much better quality than dslr, really. That's why I'm still using that phone. how?
https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera
this simple app let you shot an INSTANT burst of 20 RAW shots in BRACKETING, which merged in camera raw results in perfect photos even in extreme low light. So 20 raw shots + instant burst + bracketing.
I'd like to have the same function on Op5 (maybe more than 20shots per burst?), but (this is important) for both sensors at the same time.
Optical zoom is only 1,5x so I ensure that if we merge in photoshop a bracketing burst of both sensor we'll obtain the quality of professional expensive camera.
I can attach some examples of what Nexus5 reaches with this function if you want, but who's expert in camera raw hdr editing understands the insane result reachable
edit: i tried the app and it works! with our 16mp resolution, so it is fittable to any phone. the only problem remains that raw shots acquired with non op-camera apps are kind of blurred-violet

+1

Can you share some examples? Also, can this be installed in OP3T?

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Can you share some examples? Also, can this be installed in OP3T?
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Yes, i have it on my 3t

Care to share an apk? I have a fairly ancient version of this app and would like to try it on my 3T.

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Care to share an apk? I have a fairly ancient version of this app and would like to try it on my 3T.
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I send you the link via pm

I would like to give this a try
Could you please share the apk please and thank you so much!!!

Can you send a pm too with apk thanks.

I would like to try the app too. Thanks @mystique47.

Sargos76 said:
I send you the link via pm
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Send me the link of that, apk you are telling about!

Can you please send me the apk link too, Thanks

Here you can find all releases. Just download the apk and install. It's working for Oneplus 5 https://github.com/PkmX/lcamera/releases

Samples ?
i would like to see feedback from anyone who used the app please ?

All 3rd party app returns images with a pink tint when shooting in raw.

Looking to buy the 5 real soon. Subscribing to this thread. Any comparison shots yet?

why not link the apk here? you're clearly not suffering restrictions to not post links here. Unconventional. someone else had to link lol

mystique47 said:
I had nexus 5 and I made photos of much better quality than dslr, really.
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No way at all! You might get some good shots out of your Nexus 5, but "much better than a DSLR?" Definitely not if you're using the DSLR properly.
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Devhux said:
No way at all! You might get some good shots out of your Nexus 5, but "much better than a DSLR?" Definitely not if you're using the DSLR properly.
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ROFL, I'm an enthusiast photographer and shoot with a Nikon D3 and I laughed my a$$ off reading that. The OP is delusional. There just is no way you'll out do a DSLR with a camera phone if you have any clue on what you're doing with the camera. With total control of a current smartphones camera you might get close to what a DSLR will get you on auto.... MAYBE, and forget from a phone from 3 or4 year old smartphone camera.

Eric214 said:
ROFL, I'm an enthusiast photographer and shoot with a Nikon D3 and I laughed my a$$ off reading that. The OP is delusional. There just is no way you'll out do a DSLR with a camera phone if you have any clue on what you're doing with the camera. With total control of a current smartphones camera you might get close to what a DSLR will get you on auto.... MAYBE, and forget from a phone from 3 or4 year old smartphone camera.
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Another enthusiast here (D800) and I am willing to be more charitable. In good daylight a cell phone camera will produce images that are more or less on par with a mid-low end dslr, at least in terms of basic technical things such as noise, acuity. I do agree that in lousy light all bets are off, and this is what the OP implied.

GroovyGeek said:
Another enthusiast here (D800) and I am willing to be more charitable. In good daylight a cell phone camera will produce images that are more or less on par with a mid-low end dslr, at least in terms of basic technical things such as noise, acuity. I do agree that in lousy light all bets are off, and this is what the OP implied.
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In good light they will be close on the camera maybe at 100% on a phone screen. You put that baby on a PC monitor and start pixel peeping and really scrutinize, it won't be close