I got my turbo the day it arrived in the store. I opted for the ballistic 64 gig version and right from the start I want blown away like I hoped It would be. The battery should be a monster but didn't last any money than my. S 4 or my note 3 but it did charge quickly. The screen was impressive but wasnt bright enough for me outside. The sound was loud and clear. But the wow factor just didn't grab me like my old razer maxx did when it come on the scene. I kept it several days playing around with it but decided I would go for the note 4 instead this time. Maybe the next moto will be the one not the nexus 6 cause the note is at the limits of how big a screen I want. I did like the android on it as it was closer to being pure vanilla android certainly comparison to the note but just want the one for me this time. Just thought I'd share . What do the other owners think? Was it what you wanted it to be? Just curious. Jesse
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That's a honest review. All up to you and your opinion. For many this phone is amazing. For me it surely is because I came from a lg g2 and have never used Motorola ui other than the atrix hd. The screen, battery life, and speaker sound demolishes my g2
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I got my turbo the day it arrived in the store. I opted for the ballistic 64 gig version and right from the start I want blown away like I hoped It would be. The battery should be a monster but didn't last any money than my. S 4 or my note 3 but it did charge quickly. The screen was impressive but wasnt bright enough for me outside. The sound was loud and clear. But the wow factor just didn't grab me like my old razer maxx did when it come on the scene. I kept it several days playing around with it but decided I would go for the note 4 instead this time. Maybe the next moto will be the one not the nexus 6 cause the note is at the limits of how big a screen I want. I did like the android on it as it was closer to being pure vanilla android certainly comparison to the note but just want the one for me this time. Just thought I'd share . What do the other owners think? Was it what you wanted it to be? Just curious. Jesse
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Maybe look into the Sony xperia z3v supposedly it has a longer lasting battery than the turbo. Can take better pics. A brighter screen. No warping of the screen. It's water proof. I am looking between the turbo, Sony xperia z3v, note 4 and nexus 6.
Yeah its not a bad phone at all just didn't get me all excited like I thought it would. Is a damn good looking phone with the ballistic material especially the 64 gig version with the splash of red lettering at the bottom. I always liked Motorola phones my favorite being the RAZR maxx which I still have and use. I just decided to go with the note 4 because I enjoyed the note 3 a lot and since I had a buyer it didn't set me back much to get it. I did consider the the Sony which looks to be a nice device but I have never had any expedience with one or know anybody that has . The only thing I know about it is what I have read some good some bad but you get that worth all brands. I'm sure you'll enjoy your motoand I imagine I will have another one again some time. I will say if you put a glass screen protector on it don't use the Verizon brand cause they are not made like the older ones. I usually do a really good job of putting them on with no bubbles or dust under them but the problem was it just wouldnt stick. I showed the salesman the first one and he give me a second one to try and I had him do it and it went worse for him and it didn't even cover the screen as well as it should have. Anyway have a good time with it. Jesse
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Maybe look into the Sony xperia z3v supposedly it has a longer lasting battery than the turbo. Can take better pics. A brighter screen. No warping of the screen. It's water proof. I am looking between the turbo, Sony xperia z3v, note 4 and nexus 6.
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That's what I did and I love the z3v. Better camera by a mile and better battery that the turbo. I believe that the turbo was way over hyped...moto cameras are so bad and advertising two days on the battery? That's just plain wrong.
Wait holy crap the only reason I didn't get the xperia is because I thought the battery was normal on those. Also the xperia on display at my Verizon store had a million dots on the screen. All in a matrix. Depending on the angle you view it from you can see these bright little dots perfectly lined up as if its part of the hardware. That was a deal breaker for me. Can someone verify the xperia for me?
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As far as I know, I don't want a phone with a screen so poorly designed that you can see the multi touch matrix almost 100% of the time unless its midnight.
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Wait holy crap the only reason I didn't get the xperia is because I thought the battery was normal on those. Also the xperia on display at my Verizon store had a million dots on the screen. All in a matrix. Depending on the angle you view it from you can see these bright little dots perfectly lined up as if its part of the hardware. That was a deal breaker for me. Can someone verify the xperia for me?
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The dots are because of the screen type. My lg g2 was the same way, it isn't a huge deal but if you get a LCD display you will be able to see them..
I'm still debating on going to the z3v. But battery life seems to have improved dramatically for me. So we will see.
I picked up turbo and z3v for two different lines. Eventually one will get swapped for an iphone for my wife. I like the moto software, and all the sensors, but i just about always go for the xperia. Frankly it feels premium like an iphone and the camera is amazing after a little learning curve. Ive been taking photos of fast moving children for the last two days with excellent results. The lcd matrix is visible in glare, but ive never noticed them unless i was looking for them.
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Wait holy crap the only reason I didn't get the xperia is because I thought the battery was normal on those. Also the xperia on display at my Verizon store had a million dots on the screen. All in a matrix. Depending on the angle you view it from you can see these bright little dots perfectly lined up as if its part of the hardware. That was a deal breaker for me. Can someone verify the xperia for me?
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For me when I was choosing between this and or the xperia was that the screen at the store has foggy lines vertically on the screen when using camera only. Also that the chassis is more z2 than z3.
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The dots are because of the screen type. My lg g2 was the same way, it isn't a huge deal but if you get a LCD display you will be able to see them..
I'm still debating on going to the z3v. But battery life seems to have improved dramatically for me. So we will see.
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Same here the battery has significantly improved too on my turbo. Many people don't realize the battery needs to break in and get used to use
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For me when I was choosing between this and or the xperia was that the screen at the store has foggy lines vertically on the screen when using camera only. Also that the chassis is more z2 than z3.
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Same here the battery has significantly improved too on my turbo. Many people don't realize the battery needs to break in and get used to use
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The battery may get a little better over time but the camera on the turbo will forever be a total joke the z3v smokes the turbo in every aspect. I want to love the turbo but it's not in the same league.
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The battery may get a little better over time but the camera on the turbo will forever be a total joke the z3v smokes the turbo in every aspect. I want to love the turbo but it's not in the same league.
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I don't know that I can say that at this point. So far I think between the two design wise it is preference on looks. However from looking thru the z3 forum, I'm seeing lots of quality control issues including camera issues where it will overheat quickly. That and light bleed, and misaligned screens and cracked screens and backs.
I'm not trying to downplay the z3v and I don't know if those issues are as prevalent on that version as the actual z3.
The only problems I'm really seeing on the turbo is people expecting more battery life out of it.
I don't take a lot of pictures so camera don't really matter to me.
If the z3 is actually a better phone I'm going to go swap out my phone for the z3. But I mean at the store the specs are listed almost exactly the same. I'm confused how I blatantly missed a comparison that made the obvious choice a z3.
Are you willing to clarify the specs that smoke the turbo? I need to do this before my 14 days if I make the swap.
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Specs and on paper the turbo is clearly the winner. Better display, bigger battery, newer processor.
However posts and what I've been seeing the z3v is beating the turbo with screen on time.
I personally would have swapped already for that phone, but then I think why not just go back to my g2.
Same screen, has wireless charging, same size display. Still get that dot matrix from the LCD. And a good camera. Only real difference between the two is lgg2 is I believe a snapdragon 800, not a 801.
I just want a new phone and am hoping this turbo works for me.
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That's what I did and I love the z3v. Better camera by a mile and better battery that the turbo. I believe that the turbo was way over hyped...moto cameras are so bad and advertising two days on the battery? That's just plain wrong.
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The z3v is a z2.. Literally. And the moto turbo uses a Sony sensor. I'm not defending turbo or the z3v.. But just stating the facts. The z3v is an old phone before it even came out.
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If the z3 is actually a better phone I'm going to go swap out my phone for the z3. But I mean at the store the specs are listed almost exactly the same. I'm confused how I blatantly missed a comparison that made the obvious choice a z3.
Are you willing to clarify the specs that smoke the turbo? I need to do this before my 14 days if I make the swap.
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All that I can say is that I tried both extensively and the z3v has a far better camera and better battery life. The moto camera is a typical moto camera, you need perfect lighting and a non moving target to get any kind of decent picture. It's useless unless you are taking pictures of trees. The battery on the turbo is also sub part to the z3v. These are facts, not my opinions. If you have a turbo you know what I mean.
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All that I can say is that I tried both extensively and the z3v has a far better camera and better battery life. The moto camera is a typical moto camera, you need perfect lighting and a non moving target to get any kind of decent picture. It's useless unless you are taking pictures of trees. The battery on the turbo is also sub part to the z3v. These are facts, not my opinions. If you have a turbo you know what I mean.
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Im satisfied with the Moto Camera, ive only done extremely low lighting pictures and of my cats jumping around. Appears to catch detail easily with moving targets. As far as battery life goes. Im going on 22 hours with 4.2 hours screen on time and I'm at 37% - the battery seems to get better every day. I like the idea that the z3v is waterproof... but visible touch screen matrix, an LCD display with much lower resolution than the turbo, and a previous generation qualcomm? Im not trying to create a debate here but i think "smoked" was the wrong term to this phone. The visible matrix seems like such a huge design flaw. I have never in my life seen this on a phone nor do i think its acceptable. It really killed it for me, complete deal breaker
I cant repeat it enough, the visible dots and that being normal? that truly boggles my mind. and from Sony? I expected more in terms of common sense.
The only sense I can make out of the reason they used this kind of display was so that the phone's touch screen would work well underwater..... but unless they are specifically marketing to a huge group of Scuba Divers this seems like the dumbest decision ever made by a large company's development team. Just mind boggling to me.
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Maybe look into the Sony xperia z3v supposedly it has a longer lasting battery than the turbo. Can take better pics. A brighter screen. No warping of the screen. It's water proof. I am looking between the turbo, Sony xperia z3v, note 4 and nexus 6.
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Me too...I can't decide...
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Im satisfied with the Moto Camera, ive only done extremely low lighting pictures and of my cats jumping around. Appears to catch detail easily with moving targets. As far as battery life goes. Im going on 22 hours with 4.2 hours screen on time and I'm at 37% - the battery seems to get better every day. I like the idea that the z3v is waterproof... but visible touch screen matrix, an LCD display with much lower resolution than the turbo, and a previous generation qualcomm? Im not trying to create a debate here but i think "smoked" was the wrong term to this phone. The visible matrix seems like such a huge design flaw. I have never in my life seen this on a phone nor do i think its acceptable. It really killed it for me, complete deal breaker
I cant repeat it enough, the visible dots and that being normal? that truly boggles my mind. and from Sony? I expected more in terms of common sense.
The only sense I can make out of the reason they used this kind of display was so that the phone's touch screen would work well underwater..... but unless they are specifically marketing to a huge group of Scuba Divers this seems like the dumbest decision ever made by a large company's development team. Just mind boggling to me.
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If your saying that your turbo is taking low light pictures of moving targets then I have got to call a huge BS. That is just simply not true. Sorry but there is no need to make stuff up like that.
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Me too...I can't decide...
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I have the note 2 and still love it and I wasn't going to consider the note 4 but it seems that nobody really had complaints other than touch wiz itself. But I don't know if I could go down in size.
Are any of these phones less prone to cracked screens and scratches?
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So.... I just left my local AT&T store after some quality hands-on time with the Moto X. My verdict: take my damned money, Motorola!
Disclaimer: I'm not a Moto or AT&T rep, just a guy who's owned 10+ Android devices since the G1 and up to the Galaxy S4. And currently I'm rocking the Lumia 1020 as my daily driver: love it too!
So I walked in at 9am when the store opened and made a quick sweep of the store looking for a Moto customatic booth. Today is the official launch and my bet was 50/50 they'd have a display up and running. Turns out they didn't :/ Way to go AT&T! Next I made a bee line for the store manager. Long story short: he didn't know when they would have display models available but he was more than happy to open a brand new white model up for me...
So? The Moto X feels fantastic. Think iPhone size, but rounded to fit exactly in your hands. I can honestly say there's no other phone outside of Nokia's Lumia series that feels as good in hand as the X. I'm 6'0" and have what I consider to be average size paws. The svelte bezels meant I could effortlessly reach all the way to the far corners of the screen, FINALLY :victory: I'm totally in love. Manufacturers keep making these razor-thin slabs with zero ergonomics and it's time for a revolution (seriously).
Since I'm a little busy this morning I will list a few observations and hopefully post some pictures later:
- The phone is SOLID. Both in weight and balance. Again the best comparison here is the iPhone 4S (I've never owned one but played with them enough). The guts of this little machine must be packed tight because it feels nothing like Samsung's M.O. of light and flimsy.
- The screen is sharp and and saturated, just like every AMOLED I've used before. Side by side with the GS4 I could discern no difference in screen quality. I would like to throw in the personal opinion that 1920x1080 on a 5", much less a 4.7" screen is completely unnecessary. Completely. GS4 owners (I was one) can argue till they're blue in the face but they'd still be mistaken. If 720p was excellent on a Note II at 5.5" then 720p at 4.7" is that much better. Yep, it's true.
- The buttons did not rattle or feel loose as some reviewers have mentioned. This is just one unit I tried but I didn't see looseness/rattling in it. We'll see how those buttons actually hold up after regular usage.
- I didn't test the camera. I will when they get the display models in. What's gonna beat the Lumia 1020 anyway?
- More to come....
Nice first impressions! Looking forward to more
Oh and when I read the title for a second I thought that you had gotten hold of a device called the "moto X mini" and I'm like holy crap is this real!? Lol and then I reread it again at then facepalmed.
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Haha, thanks for the kudos! I changed the title to disambiguate a bit. The Moto X is already "mini" :good:
I also went into the att store to look at the device. My thoughts:
One of the best feeling phones. It's amazing how small it is yet how much screen you get
The voice commands work well. In a loud ATT store, I just said okay google and i said it in a whisper and it picked it up.
the screen was not as good. I've had a droid dna for 9 months, i can tell a difference. The whites are more yellowish. The icons are good, the problem with going 1080p vs 720p is not the pictures, its the font. The font on the htc was customized better.
I coudln't try active notifications even though i have it on my phone through google play store. It's stupid to me that att or any other carrier puts some stupid video so the phone never turns off. When i turn off the phone and try to put it face down, i get some stupid moto x video and not the active notifcations. It really is super stupid. Nice job ATT.
Camera was okay. I did notice it was slightly washed but it was okay. when using it it, the tap to focus was not turned on by default yo uhave to go to settings and turn it on. after that, it focused better. The focus was relativaliey sharp and i just applied aftereffects to the phone and i was fine with the phone. I even compared it to the htc one and i wasn' tlike "oh wow the htc one is so much better"
Overall, i was dissapointed by the screen but very very very impressed with the build, size and body. It's very tempting.
Went and checked it out as well. Returned my OG Pro that I got a week ago and paid the extra $140 to cover the additional cost of the Moto X. The phone just feels right as corny as that sounds. I go through phones like no other, but this one has a good upside and feel.
I have a feeling that this phone will be one of those phones that everybody will crap on saying the HTC One or the S4 will be infinitely better without trying the phone out.
But as soon as they try it out they will change their tune and say it is a great phone and would be willing to trade their phone in for it.
Thanks for all the info, everyone. Just got a One a few weeks back so probably not in the upgrade market, but curious to see how this Device does. It's nice to see Google out there and focusing their efforts on non-nexus devices...the more access consumers have to this tech, the better. The active notifications sound really awesome, however, I can't stand the color rendering of the AMOLEDs. I know, I know, this has been said 1000x. But having spent much of my career assembling documents and presentation with a high level of graphic design attention, these AMOLEDs just kill to look at. The not-quite-white whites and super-saturated blues and greens just burn a hole in my soul. That said, still can't wait to get a hold of this thing and give it a run in the store. From what I can tell right now, this sounds like something I'd strongly consider upgrading to if I were in the market for a device.
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I have a feeling that this phone will be one of those phones that everybody will crap on saying the HTC One or the S4 will be infinitely better without trying the phone out.
But as soon as they try it out they will change their tune and say it is a great phone and would be willing to trade their phone in for it.
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I've got all three devices you mentioned... I think the Moto X is going back.
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I've got all three devices you mentioned... I think the Moto X is going back.
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Why's that if you don't mind me asking? What is it about the other two that is more appealing than the Moto X?
The moto X screen is great and the whites are whiter than the S4. My favorite features are the notifications and the Motorola Connect, love it.
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Why's that if you don't mind me asking? What is it about the other two that is more appealing than the Moto X?
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I don't mind at all!
The phone is pretty good, but there are some things I like quite a lot more about the GPe One or GS4.
Both of them have better displays. The One's aluminum is terrific. Stock android is amazing.
I think the only thing I'll really miss, and I mean really, is the voice control. It's really awesome.
Here's a reddit thread of first impressions:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1kyzzi/bought_one_at_the_store_first_impressions/
love my Moto X
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eallan said:
I don't mind at all!
The phone is pretty good, but there are some things I like quite a lot more about the GPe One or GS4.
Both of them have better displays. The One's aluminum is terrific. Stock android is amazing.
I think the only thing I'll really miss, and I mean really, is the voice control. It's really awesome.
Here's a reddit thread of first impressions:
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1kyzzi/bought_one_at_the_store_first_impressions/
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Oh you went with the google play models, now that changes everything! I can see how you like those more than this phone.
I had a Google play s4 and decided on the moto x. For me its the size of the device. Being able to handle it easier one handed feels a lot better than trying to juggle the s4. Both great phones though. Maybe the s4 will get pulled out of the drawer one day
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if this is true i am definitely getting one
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia...x_might_not_exist-news-9969.php:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
muhammadshais said:
if this is true i am definitely getting one
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia...x_might_not_exist-news-9969.php:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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Fix ur link :highfive: And im so gald to hear that one : ''Interestingly, Sony is said to give up on its six-month release cycle for flagship handsets starting with the Xperia Z4. So far, it has been the only company to push out two flagships per year - take the Z2 and Z3 from 2014, for example. But that's rumored to change, with the Z4 not being followed by a Z5 in 2015.'' :highfive:
http://m.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z4_specs_reportedly_leak_z3x_might_not_exist-news-9969.php
Hoping there will be the Compact version too, since 5.5" is just too big for me - no pun intended. I already thought N5 was pushing it, whilst the Z2 is minimally bigger than N5, so yeah, I'd rather not go any bigger. 4.5-5" is the perfect screen size for me, and since Z4 will sport whooping 4GB RAM, the Compact should be able to pull off 3GB with ease - more than enough, really.
Although, if it's out in early '15, I'm likely not gonna bother upgrading - my Z2 is only just over 3 months old, and it's a two years long contract. Early upgrades are a bit pricey. May even hold back until the Z5 is out, unless I decide to go for a different phone entirely - maybe back to Nexus (if they give a smaller screen size versions), or HTC, or try Motorola.
S800, S801, S801 S810 ! Thats gonna be a huge jump.
But i'm more interested in the curved sensor. Wonder how that will work out.
that sure is a worthy upgrade, im really hyped if it's true that they will add a dedicated amplifier inside Z4.. S-Master HX, anyone?
putting 5.5" is kinda pushing it imo, Z2 is already really big -- almost as big as LG G Pro with its 5.5", unless Sony manages to reduce its footprint even more
but i think i'll be saving for Z5 in case Qualcomm outs a new Krait core processor, a 6 core Krait? 8 core Krait? That'd sound more interesting than a bigLITTLE ARM architecture to me
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Hoping there will be the Compact version too, since 5.5" is just too big for me - no pun intended.
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Same. I figured that buy buying the z2, (I had never even heard of sony phones before) I'd lose the mental pressure of always wanting the new iPhone. But now I want z4, except not so large.
Damn, im having hard time getting used to my z2 l, now they are pushing it more. Hope they stop this. And I waa really hoping to have a better pixel camera maybe An 8 to 12 mp front and down sizing to 5 mp for better selfies. Cause it really has a lack in details for a 2 mp front. I hope the battery will not be sacrificed due to this 2k display
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S800, S801, S801 S810 ! Thats gonna be a huge jump.
But i'm more interested in the curved sensor. Wonder how that will work out.
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If they switch to a quad hd display the jump won't be noticeable at all...
Buying Z3 or not, Z4 is definitely mine...
Even, I'm quite sure they will build it on 805, not 810....
I pray Gods I'm wrong
Also...it could be cool if they release Z4 next year in March and then do what they said (1 year cycle for flagships)
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S800, S801, S801 S810 ! Thats gonna be a huge jump.
But i'm more interested in the curved sensor. Wonder how that will work out.
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Quite interesting info...
First they said (gsmarena) that we'll have Z4 with that new curved lens but they are pointing us to web page that says this:
Sony hasn’t yet been able to produce their curved sensors in any high-megapixel variants, which means that we won’t be seeing the technology in commercial applications anytime soon.
Hmmm....I'm not buying this specif. for Z4.
I'm quite sure they are guessing...
Never mind...We'll see...
It would be great if Sony skip 805, at least for Z4 as a new flagship and go straight to 810 but as I already said - I doubt...
I think we'll see (again) device with 16gb SDcard, same camera lenses and same screen as we saw on Z3...
They are working on software, that's obvious, so there's a chance I'm wrong...
Maybe they built perfect drivers and optimise code on Lolipop and are ready to build Z4 on awesome monster 810...
Can't wait to see all those great devices in next year powered by Lolipop...
Looks like I can happily skip this, unless they make a radical change to get rid of the borders around the screen. As proven by Apple's awful iPhone 6 Plus, 5.5 inches is just too big. I wouldn't consider this spec for a second.
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Quite interesting info...
First they said (gsmarena) that we'll have Z4 with that new curved lens but they are pointing us to web page that says this:
Sony hasn’t yet been able to produce their curved sensors in any high-megapixel variants, which means that we won’t be seeing the technology in commercial applications anytime soon.
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Didn't the new strange selfie phone in japan use a curved sensor ?
Slow...
Wow, you guys are so behind the times. Sony has actually confirmed the Z6 series set to be released 2015 July... (kidding obviously)
I'm a little shocked that the Z3 has barely even started being sold around the world, and Z4 talk begins already hah. Since it's on the table, I've decided to pass on the Z3, but perhaps the Z4 I will jump on. I purchased my Z2 about 4 months back and OMG... This is my first Sony phone, 33rd Android phone (no joke) and this has topped the charts in my book. I really hope these specs are true, and not just early expectation drafts for the future.
5" is the perfect size for me. 5.2" is the maximum I would go for. Anything above that is too big for me ?
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I'm excited for the dedicated amps for the speakers, and the new SOC. That's about it. I had a 5.5" phone once already (the Oppo Find7a) I really wasn't a fan of that size. I say maybe go 5.3" for a slight bump but that's really it. Or they had better makes those bezels really small. I also don't really care about the resolution. I've seen the G3 in person an wasn't really impressed.
Imo, a 5.5" screen is a failure. Whoever released these specs is trying to picture that sony is copying apple products. Which proves its a lie. My z2 is already big as is. Actually i prefer my old z size over the z2. If they can get rid of the home buttons out of the display would be a better choice.
A better front facing camera, as the 2mp is a failure. And for gods sake fix the slow main camera. Such a disappointing performance from it.
I can swear the z audio quality is better than the z2. A dedicated amp would be great.
Although i loved my old z, but unfortunately i suffered from a self cracking screen. I got the z2 before knowing about it, otherwise i would have never got a Sony again. I hope sony understands the reason of this problem, and have addressed it in the z2, until this moment i haven't heard about a self cracking z2. The screen is too expensive to repair, almost 5x a Samsungs or iPhone screen, because the touch and display screen are one piece, unlike Samsung and iPhone.
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A better front facing camera, as the 2mp is a failure.
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The much-hyped iPhone 6 and 6 Plus have 1.2-megapixel front cameras, versus 2.1 megapixel from Sony. How is that a failure for Sony?
And for gods sake fix the slow main camera. Such a disappointing performance from it.
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It could be faster, but it matches or beats most standalone consumer cameras, and while Apple is only offloading 80 megapixels per second with its latest-gen phones, Sony is offloading upwards of 124 megapixels per second due to the much, much higher sensor resolution.
(Just tested my phone and got at *least* six frames per second for the first second at 8 megapixel resolution, versus the 10fps claimed by Apple -- and my reflexes probably aren't good enough to have started exactly at the start of the second, so likely the actual frame rate was even higher.)
Although i loved my old z, but unfortunately i suffered from a self cracking screen.
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Ooooohhhh, wait. You're one of the "self-cracking" crowd. There is no such thing as self-cracking, so I don't know why I took this post seriously.
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The screen is too expensive to repair, almost 5x a Samsungs or iPhone screen, because the touch and display screen are one piece, unlike Samsung and iPhone.
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There's a reason they're one piece, and it's a good one. With separate touch screen and LCD, you get a thicker display assembly and lower contrast due to greater internal reflections.
@knoxploration
No, there's no term self cracking glass but that's only expression guys are using to describe broken glass on back cover.
Device never hit the floor or any or "had" any reason to crack...
But...
That's what we are saying (that part where we are surprised with cracked glass).
Actually, little elfs didn't broke it over night...
Apparently, location of NFC chip is problem.
Engineers made a mistake and it protrude compares to other parts.
This problem plus high working temperature can make weird things like cracking the back glass...
I would like to hear impressions of someone who lives in cold area but really cold area...
When you are recording 4K video or watching HD video while you are outside in coldness did you noticed cracking sounds when device start cooling (by extremely cold air).
That NFC chip location is just one of few theories, for me it gives logical answer.
Can't remember where did I saw that info (if I find or remember web I'll post a link).
So, please, don't take that as 100% answer...
See ya
My touch screen cracked and not the back cover, it cracked on its own in a very controlled environment. I was parked in my car, using the phone and everything was fine, all of a sudden the screen became unresponsive, i thought the software crashed and phone became unresponsive. I restarted the phone and the problem remained, and i was completely surprised to find out the screen cracked out of the blue. Im guessing maybe because the touch and display are in one piece and there is a mismatch on their thermal expansion rates, the phone was a bit hot when the screen cracked.
Im not an iPhone fan, actually im puzzled why do people buy them, but thats my opinion.
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lol this thread is become complain section
I always loved the laminated screens, yes even before apple sold it as innovation, and after seeing some videos it seems like the air gap of the Moto x style is pretty big. How visible is it in daily use if you are used to laminated screens for a long time?
Pretty sure it's laminated. If not, it must be a very small air gap because I don't notice much, if any, difference between how close the pixels are to the surface vs my wife's iPhone 6.
Thanks, that sounds good. I can see a gap though on most YouTube videos where the device is shown from different angles you can clearly see that the black edges of the screen disappear or get bigger depending on the angle. Which means there is a gap. But if it's not really noticeable on regular usage it would be fine for me. Still waiting for my ordered 64gb version in Germany. The delay is bad and makes me think about cancelling and getting an nexus 6p instead...
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Thanks, that sounds good. I can see a gap though on most YouTube videos where the device is shown from different angles you can clearly see that the black edges of the screen disappear or get bigger depending on the angle. Which means there is a gap. But if it's not really noticeable on regular usage it would be fine for me. Still waiting for my ordered 64gb version in Germany. The delay is bad and makes me think about cancelling and getting an nexus 6p instead...
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Hm. I haven't seen that, but maybe it's because I have the black front model. Possibly easier to notice on the white front model.
I have a white model and can't see any gap, regardless of viewing angle. If there is a gap, I can't see it.
It could also be from the rounded glass on the edge.
I had a GS6 before this and the gap is noticeably bigger on the Pure. It's not bad at all and you certainly habituate to it but it was noticeable.
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I had a GS6 before this and the gap is noticeably bigger on the Pure. It's not bad at all and you certainly habituate to it but it was noticeable.
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I also currently have an s6. The s6 has basically zero air gap and I hope the Moto x Display gap will not turn me off too much.
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I also currently have an s6. The s6 has basically zero air gap and I hope the Moto x Display gap will not turn me off too much.
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Why are u moving from s6 to moto x if u don't mind me asking. For stock Android exp?
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Definitely want minimal gap for this phone as well. Makes the screen seem to float.
Doubt there is air gap. Hardly any phones have air gap these days. Usually relegated to the lowest end phones with cheapest components. The 'gap' might be due to the moto x ha ing gorilla glass 3 and not 4. GG3 is thicker than 4. They both have same strength, just GG4 is thinner. It has made nice difference almost touching the actual display. My Motorola atrix is a canyon compared to my recent phones in regards to air gap.
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Why are u moving from s6 to moto x if u don't mind me asking. For stock Android exp?
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Definitely want minimal gap for this phone as well. Makes the screen seem to float.
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The S6 is my first Samsung device which is not a Nexus. I was hoping that they learned from their past mistakes but I found following issues:
- battery life was good at first and now it's just plain bad. In the morning I unplug the device with 100 %. And it loses 20 percent in the way to the office with only a few minutes onscreen time.
- I don't give a ... that the s6 has great benchmarks. In real life this hardware beast stutters and is slower than my old N5. This may be different for games, but I dont play 3d games on smartphones. I think TW is still the culprit here. Basically Samsung is using high end specs and killing them off with their stupid overlay. Even though the UI is getting better, the Samsung add ons to Android seem to bog down the whole experience.
- I hate the fact that I hit the capacitive buttons all the time when holding the device in landscape. That doesn't happen with onscreen buttons since my hands can rest on the bezel.
- the fingerprint scanner is slow as hell. It's a joke compared to my iPhone 6.
These are the reasons I really look forward to get the Moto x. For me they tick all the right boxes.
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Doubt there is air gap. Hardly any phones have air gap these days. Usually relegated to the lowest end phones with cheapest components. The 'gap' might be due to the moto x ha ing gorilla glass 3 and not 4. GG3 is thicker than 4. They both have same strength, just GG4 is thinner. It has made nice difference almost touching the actual display. My Motorola atrix is a canyon compared to my recent phones in regards to air gap.
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Could also be the case. But the result is the same for the users eye. It looks like a gap, I can clearly see the black edges changing their size depending on the angle you look at the device. But as most say it's not a huge thing I hope I'll be OK with it.
I was one of the people really hating the ipad air because of the gap. Back then my colleagues said it doesn't matter. But one year later Apple introduced the laminated screen. And everybody was freaking out.
You guys are funny
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You guys are funny
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What's funny about this discussion?
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What's funny about this discussion?
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Mostly that you keep claiming there is an air gap when you haven't even seen the phone in person. I have the phone in my hand and I don't think there is one, thought the glass might be a tiny bit thicker than the Galaxy S6. By the way, I looked at my friend's white iPhone 6 Plus and the black border around the edge of the display also changes size when viewing it from different angles, so I don't think that indicates that the screen isn't laminated.
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Mostly that you keep claiming there is an air gap when you haven't even seen the phone in person. I have the phone in my hand and I don't think there is one, thought the glass might be a tiny bit thicker than the Galaxy S6. By the way, I looked at my friend's white iPhone 6 Plus and the black border around the edge of the display also changes size when viewing it from different angles, so I don't think that indicates that the screen isn't laminated.
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The thread is a question. So I'm not claiming anything just stating what I can see on HD videos. And one guy with a s6 confirmed my impression. So it might be the screen glass, it might be an air gap. It doesnt matter, if the result is the same visually.
I was just curious to know and some people seem to notice it, others don't. Well my Moto X is already under way and I will see it myself soon.
Honestly the more I see about the Nexus 6p the more I like it. I'll get a nexus 6p as work phone and the style is my private phone. Eager to see which one will wind up becoming my main phone.
Lol. How contorted does your head or phone need to be for you to see this "air gap"? I've had a long list of phones and have never noticed what is being described in this thread. I must have issues.
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Lol. How contorted does your head or phone need to be for you to see this "air gap"? I've had a long list of phones and have never noticed what is being described in this thread. I must have issues.
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This kind of reactions remind me of the discussions I had when the first devices with pentile amoled screens arrived back then (nexus one). It looked like crap, but one of the inventors tried to convince everybody on xda that the human eye can't see the pentile matrix on a hvga resolution.
The point is: it's great if you don't see it. Be happy.
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This kind of reactions remind me of the discussions I had when the first devices with pentile amoled screens arrived back then (nexus one). It looked like crap, but one of the inventors tried to convince everybody on xda that the human eye can't see the pentile matrix on a hvga resolution.
The point is: it's great if you don't see it. Be happy.
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The difference is with the air gap you have to view the screen from unnatural angles to see it.
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The difference is with the air gap you have to view the screen from unnatural angles to see it.
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No, that's not what it's about. With an air gap the image on the screen doesn't look like it's printed on the screen (which is more pleasant to the eye). And when you interact with the screen, a small or nonexistent air gap will have a better UX because it feels more immediate to touch an image which is as near to the screen/digitizer surface as possible.
The best example is the first ipad air. It felt totally awkward because the gap was huge. Much bigger than the previous ipads. Apple didn't make a big deal out of the laminated screen with no reason.
Has anyone bought the 6P and then asked themselves "why on earth did I spend the money, the other one was equally as good as this one".
I'm torn because from a standpoint of specs I just don't see a bunch of difference and the 6 is a great phone. SO that's the question, if anyone regrets it other than the fact it's a new phone, i would love to hear your take. :silly:
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6 vs 6P, maybe there's an argument there. I came from the N5.. No contest.
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Came from the ZenFone 2....no regrets either.
Came from the S5 and this phone seems like an answered prayer.
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I came from a Note 5 and I have no regrets. Much more clean and smooth.
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Has anyone bought the 6P and then asked themselves "why on earth did I spend the money, the other one was equally as good as this one".
I'm torn because from a standpoint of specs I just don't see a bunch of difference and the 6 is a great phone. SO that's the question, if anyone regrets it other than the fact it's a new phone, i would love to hear your take. :silly:
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Yes I have had this internal discussion. I had the OG LG G2 and it is perfect in every way for me at least. I do really like the larger screen but I will miss the G2.
The thing with specs are they are just that....specs... the lg g2 still feels fast and has no real lag and its old as F*******
Coming from the Nexus 6, I can say there was enough there to make me want the 6P. Sensor hub+ doze, battery, processor, finger print scanner, better display, not so wide frame, camera, it doesn't rock around on the table when you try to use it, 128GB, etc... I can say it is a solid upgrade in just about every way.
It's still brand spanking new, and I still haven't gotten over that kid in a candy store feel of getting a new device. Right now I would say I am extremely pleased and not regretting the purchase at all. Time will tell if I develop any complaints.
Edit: I would say the slightly smaller screen was the only thing I immediately noticed was different while using it, but it was not really a downgrade. 5.7 vs 5.9 inches isn't a huge change in real estate, but it still is a change. On the bright side, at least the 6P fits in my car's cupholder!
My only concern is the size. Coming from m8; this phone is way took big but I really like the specs of it. Trying to get used to the size.
Not one bit. I love this phone. Plus, mine seems to be bug or defect free. Yay!
Former Z3 owner.
I dont use my N6 for anything anymore..
This phone is sooooo much batter
Fingerprint scanner
Not as wide
Awesome dual front speakers
Better camera
Way better gaming performance
Better screen
0 regrets. Love doze, the screen, the speakers, the freedom to do whatever I like with the software. I am a bit hesitant about the camera but hopefully they push some software improvements later.
Slightly disappointred with my display. Whites are dirty / yellowish when looking straight at it. Look much better when viewing from an angle. Suffering a bit of color changing when i move the handset about.
Last phones was a Nexus 5, and a couple of months with a cheapy UMI Iron. Both of which had better whites. Hoping this is fixable.
Too big , mine is going back. My LG g3 had nearly the same size display in a much smaller package.
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Slightly disappointred with my display. Whites are dirty / yellowish when looking straight at it. Look much better when viewing from an angle. Suffering a bit of color changing when i move the handset about.
Last phones was a Nexus 5, and a couple of months with a cheapy UMI Iron. Both of which had better whites. Hoping this is fixable.
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I know that you shouldn't have to for the price point of this phone, but there is already a kernel to adjust the screen temps and there will undoubtedly be more. LCD screens always have cooler, crisper light colors that comparatively seem almost dingey on AMOLEDs. But hey, you have a Nexus, so you can adjust everything you need to on a software level
None.
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Nope 'no ragrets' (if anyone gets that reference) i came from a 64gb Nexus 6 which cost me $700+ tax so for $650+ tax the 128gb 6P was a steal. I love this phone and the camera is a beast. I haven't looked back and even sold my old Nexus 6 because i like this phone so much.
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I know that you shouldn't have to for the price point of this phone, but there is already a kernel to adjust the screen temps and there will undoubtedly be more. LCD screens always have cooler, crisper light colors that comparatively seem almost dingey on AMOLEDs. But hey, you have a Nexus, so you can adjust everything you need to on a software level
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Eww LCD display are a thing of the past i prefer AMOLED screens because you get a true black and they just look better. If i could have an OLED or AMOLED TV and not pay $$$$$$$$ i gladly would buy one. I have a really nice LG monitor but the backlight annoys me and I wish it was an AMOLED especially after paying $1k for it. Everyone has their preference and mine is and always will be an OLED or AMOLED
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Nope 'no ragrets' (if anyone gets that reference) i came from a 64gb Nexus 6 which cost me $700+ tax so for $650+ tax the 128gb 6P was a steal. I love this phone and the camera is a beast. I haven't looked back and even sold my old Nexus 6 because i like this phone so much.
Eww LCD display are a thing of the past i prefer AMOLED screens because you get a true black and they just look better. If i could have an OLED or AMOLED TV and not pay $$$$$$$$ i gladly would buy one. I have a really nice LG monitor but the backlight annoys me and I wish it was an AMOLED especially after paying $1k for it. Everyone has their preference and mine is and always will be an OLED or AMOLED
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I'm actually an AMOLED fan myself :highfive: it took me a while to get used to the difference in whites coming from an HTC M8 to the droid turbo (my 6p won't be in hand until tomorrow). But I had an S4 prior to the M8 and I truly appreciate the saturated darks on AMOLEDs. After a week or so, I never even notice the slight hues associated with AMOLED screens but I think some are just more sensitive toniticing the the contrast than others. Hopefully in the next 5 years an AMOLED TV will become a more affordable option
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I'm actually an AMOLED fan myself :highfive: it took me a while to get used to the difference in whites coming from an HTC M8 to the droid turbo (my 6p won't be in hand until tomorrow). But I had an S4 prior to the M8 and I truly appreciate the saturated darks on AMOLEDs. After a week or so, I never even notice the slight hues associated with AMOLED screens but I think some are just more sensitive toniticing the the contrast than others. Hopefully in the next 5 years an AMOLED TV will become a more affordable option
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That's how I feel. My first Android phone was the S3 which had an AMOLED screen them I had a Note 3. I moved in to a LCD on my G3 and while i liked the phone the screen at times was horrible in comparison. I've had some other LCD phones and tablets but anything with an AMOLED will win my money in the end. It's sad to see Motorola stray from them because now we are left with Samsung phones, and Nexii for now (for the most part). I'm sure with the recent rumors of apple considering an AMOLED will spark further demand for them which is a good thing. I really enjoy how nice AMOLED/OLED screens look. Let's not forget the battery life that usually follows which is generally better.
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That's how I feel. My first Android phone was the S3 which had an AMOLED screen them I had a Note 3. I moved in to a LCD on my G3 and while i liked the phone the screen at times was horrible in comparison. I've had some other LCD phones and tablets but anything with an AMOLED will win my money in the end. It's sad to see Motorola stray from them because now we are left with Samsung phones, and Nexii for now (for the most part). I'm sure with the recent rumors of apple considering an AMOLED will spark further demand for them which is a good thing. I really enjoy how nice AMOLED/OLED screens look. Let's not forget the battery life that usually follows which is generally better.
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I couldn't agree more with you man. That was a really odd move on Moto's part IMO because of their way of delivering notifications...really stupid to move away from the low battery draw of AMOLEDs regarding active notifications. Though, I think Moto is a sinking ship in general these days, but that a-whole-nother discussion. I hope Apple does push for AMOLED so that it becomes more coveted feature, but it takes them a while to get on board with big changes.
Love the phone coming from a Verizon note 3. Two comments. One, the battery life isn't that great compared to the note. Samsung actually did a great job there imo. But I can still get two days out of the phone with light to moderate usage so all good. Two, for whatever reason apps take a long time to install after the download is finished. Everything else is fast on the phone.
Hello, everyone!
I watched few reviews about the phone...And really sorry to say it but I'm not much impressed, but I definitely will upgrade to from htc one m8. Big htc fan here . I like the style, screen, colours ..Can't really say about the camera probably will be good.The new sound should be awesome + the headphones... But when come to the software..... For one year they didn't touch the sense? Really ? Even TouchWiz is changing, can't understand why htc decided to stay at sense 8, or like is now just "HTC Sense UI" . In the whole review, I generally see - The colours, squeeze (I think they too much depending on this new feature which we still didn't know how it will work after month or two of using it), How google OK works that was fun tho , wasn't working the first few times and the 3d sound...And exactly how they said - simple. And I wasn't disappointed like this from quite long time .I expected something more "brilliant". They just made a review on software app - the edge stuff, htc companion and OK Google They even didn't mention htc sense, which didn't move much from 2015. Isn't this little bit pathetic to you? I want to hear your thoughts on that. Did you expect more, like me? Anyway, I'm still considering buying it when the sales start in my region.
Well having been able to hold it in my hands and play with it for a few hours I can say the following:
First of I really like the Edge Sense feature as it worked really well on my review unit. In combination with a deeply integrated Goggle Assistant and Amazon Alexa it will be a well done upgrade if new ways of using your phone. Sense has made a large step in the last year and continues in debloating with regard to reducing HTC Apps that are redundant to Google Apps, as well as tweaks regarding performance done under the hood, and last but not least integration of the above mentioned Edge Sense.
Camera is top notch, achieving highest DxOMark - 90 Points - rating of a Smartphone thus far.
Audio has come one step further as well. Only thing to name here, as it will already suffice, is the implementation of Active Noise Cancellation with the In-Ear Headphones coming in the box, and USB-C-to-3.5mm-adapter that brings an integrated Amplifier as well an an 24bit DAC.
The display, though some might dislike the design of the front, has really deep blacks and good colours - especially if compared to an AMOLED.
Ah and IP67 of course is a great step forward.
Those are just my 2 cent of a first impression coming from a personal hands on. Mire will follow once I receive the U11 myself and go to some more time to play.
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How black is black? The G6 came close to AMOLED with a 0.228 cd/m2 and the HTC 10 logged in at 0.29 according to the GSMArena review.
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How black is black? The G6 came close to AMOLED with a 0.228 cd/m2 and the HTC 10 logged in at 0.29 according to the GSMArena review.
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Screen noticeably better than on 10. U11 is a "must update" for anyone holding prior to a 10. For 10 owners, not mandatory (but definitely better in several ways).
anyone listened to the headphones is it the same loudness of of htc 10 ?
Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
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5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Well having been able to hold it in my hands and play with it for a few hours I can say the following:
First of I really like the Edge Sense feature as it worked really well on my review unit. In combination with a deeply integrated Goggle Assistant and Amazon Alexa will be of a well done upgrade if new ways using your phone. Sense has made a large step in the last year and continues in debloating with regard to reducing HTC Apps that are redundant to Google Apps, as well as tweaks regarding performance done under the hood, and last but not least integration of the above mentioned Edge Sense.
Camera is top notch, achieving highest DxOMark - 90 Points - rating of a Smartphone thus far.
Audio has come One step further as well. Just One thing to name is the implementation of Active Noise Cancellation with the In-Ear Headphones coming in the box, and USB-C-to-3.5mm-adapter that brings an integrated Amplifier as well an an 24bit DAC.
The display, though some might dislike the design of the front, has really deep blacks and good colours - especially if compared to an AMOLED.
Ah and IP67 of course is a great step forward.
Those are just my 2 cent of a first impression coming from a personal hands on. Mire will follow once I receive the U11 myself and go to some more time to play.
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This is good to hear. I'm a big fan of HTC and this device seems a step in the right direction for them. I put my pre-order in and am very excited. I've also always liked HTC for their willingness to let users unlock as they please, dev friendly. This phone has me pretty excited.
One thing I need to know, is the earpiece speaker better/louder than the horribly quiet 10? If I'm anywhere other than a relatively quiet place I can barely hear anyone on a phone call.
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This is good to hear. I'm a big fan of HTC and this device seems a step in the right direction for them. I put my pre-order in and am very excited. I've also always liked HTC for their willingness to let users unlock as they please, dev friendly. This phone has me pretty excited.
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Which colour did you pick. I went for black. Thought of ordering the Amazing Silver but they didn't have it at my carried in Germany. Those two colours are the most gorgeous ones in my eyes. Maybe black is better as on silver you can see fingerprints a lot better than on the black one. Guess this would get me on my nerves by the time anyway.
And the glas, as well as the metal edge are feeling really good in hands. Was a warm day when I used it this first time, and it had a good grip even with my sweaty hands. There was no time it felt slippery to me.
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I'm excited to see how the device does irl, I never pre-order. The echo dots are cool, but I don't think I will use them much. Also concerned about charging and using headphones at the same time. I do that at work and on flights. I might wait for the note 8, but that is a long way off and will probably be a huge phone.
For the money, I think the U11 is the best bang/buck combo, especially because it is unlocked, will have custom roms and all kinds of tweaks that this great community will use.
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Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
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Get out of here Sammy fanboy. My current HTC 10 is 5.2" and it's not small by any means. I couldn't care less about the bezels on this device or mine... I'll take them over the gimmicky curved edges that cause a slew of annoyances and functionality issues. I had the S8 for a week and I took that crap back and gladly paid the $50 restock fee.
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Get out of here Sammy fanboy. My current HTC 10 is 5.2" and it's not small by any means. I couldn't care less about the bezels on this device or mine... I'll take them over the gimmicky curved edges that cause a slew of annoyances and functionality issues. I had the S8 for a week and I took that crap back and gladly paid the $50 restock fee.
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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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Given an option I'd like less bezel for sure but definitely not even close to a deal breaker. I have multiple phones Pixel XL is my daily driver, have iPhone 7 plus, S8+ and G6. The G6 and S8+ look great with minimal bezel but using Pixel or iPhone 7 plus doesn't bother me at all.
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Given an option I'd like less bezel for sure but definitely not even close to a deal breaker. I have multiple phones Pixel XL is my daily driver, have iPhone 7 plus, S8+ and G6. The G6 and S8+ look great with minimal bezel but using Pixel or iPhone 7 plus doesn't bother me at all.
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Not a deal breaker for me either im just not a fan of the aesthetics.
The 5.5 screen is something i can't deal with though ...my s7 edge has it and I hate it (although the U11 would be alot better due to the normal aspect ratio). Its mostly why i went with the S8 plus....just for the screen size.
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Yeah im honestly not a huge fan of the edge screens either ..gotten used to it but would prefer a flat screen for sure.
And just because 5.2 isnt small to you automatically means that everyone should think the same?
And fanboy? Takes one to know one HTC fanboy
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What is this, high school? It's easy to assume your fanboyism based on the phones you have in your signature and the fact that you had absolutely nothing good to say about the U11... Why are you even here? What is your assumption based off of... that fact that I disagree with you? If I'm an HTC fanboy then why would I even bother with the S8? I guess you just overlooked that. You also forget that barely 6 years ago the first Note came out with a 5.3" screen and that was considered huge at the time... And even now that is FAR from small.
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If a smartphone can be too thin for its own good, we can agree the same applies to bezels. I wager that people wanting less and less bezels aren't accustomed to the issues that come with them. First, a bezel adds strength... I'll let you take a guess as to what effect shrinking it would have on that. Then there's the absolutely annoying accidental touching issues... and no, cases don't help with that unless you use a really bulky case. I've never held or owned a phone and said "I wish the bezels were smaller" nor have I ever felt that bezels impeded any phone's functionality and my ability to use them.
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What is this, high school? It's easy to assume your fanboyism based on the phones you have in your signature and the fact that you had absolutely nothing good to say about the U11... Why are you even here? What is your assumption based off of... that fact that I disagree with you? If I'm an HTC fanboy then why would I even bother with the S8? I guess you just overlooked that. You also forget that barely 6 years ago the first Note came out with a 5.3" screen and that was considered huge at the time... And even now that is FAR from small. You really think that the 0.3" that your S8+ has over this U11's 5.5" display really matters, ROFL? Don't make me laugh.
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Ive owned lots of phones from various manufacturers over the years including HTC. Other than the 6P there hasnt been anything else that Ive really liked the last few years other than what sammy has delivered.
And i guess your reading comprehension is not that great as i mentioned 2 things i wasnt a fan of on the U11...and I also mentioned everything else looked great.
Im here because the device does hold some interest for me...and because I can be. Dont like what i say....move along...
And i wont bother with your silliness after this, dont want the mods in here now do we?
Moderator Warning,
Guys enough of the bickering please. Can we keep the posts civil. I will be keeping a eye on this thread.
5m4r7ph0n36uru said:
Which colour did you pick. I went for black. Thought of ordering the Amazing Silver but they didn't have it at my carried in Germany. Those two colours are the most gorgeous ones in my eyes. Maybe black is better as on silver you can see fingerprints a lot better than on the black one. Guess this would get me on my nerves by the time anyway.
And the glas, as well as the metal edge are feeling really good in hands. Was a warm day when I used it this first time, and it had a good grip even with my sweaty hands. There was no time it felt slippery to me.
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I actually got that dark blue
force70 said:
Huge ugly bezels and only 71.4% screen to body ratio.
Looks very much like a pixel from the front which had a very "dated" look from the front and that was months ago in 2016. This being 2017 now this large bezeled design looks even more outdated.
HTC failed in this aspect and really should have shrunk the bezels and made the screen larger as 5.5" is just too small and large bezels are an eyesore.
Other than that the phone seems really great on paper to me and has some very desriable specs.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6
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this is a tired and worn out argument. The performance of the U11 in all ways justifies the Bezels. Samsung wouldn't be able to pull off as great as a phone with their Bezel-less gimmick. The Bezels are there for good reason.
LibertyMonger said:
this is a tired and worn out argument. The performance of the U11 in all ways justifies the Bezels. Samsung wouldn't be able to pull off as great as a phone with their Bezel-less gimmick. The Bezels are there for good reason.
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Please elaborate, Id like to see what exactly bezels...in particular top and bottom have to do with performance.
I could see before on the m7,m8 etc with the full front firing speakers but such is not the case with the U11.
And I wasnt remotely argumentative..i was merely sharing my first impression of the device as that is the thread title is it not?
Thanks.
Sent from my S8 plus, Note 7, S7 Edge or S6