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i want Google talk back!

F this hangouts app. Anyone have and ideas for getting talk back... This is driving me nuts.

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go to apps in setting uninstall HANGOUTS update

Sadly I just clean flashed and clean gapps installed today... So no talk to roll back to

Sooner or later, all Talk app will be replaced with Hangout. Don't be like one of them facebook biatches that complain every time they release a new update. Sure you might not like it at first, but you'll get used to it.
Anyways if you still insist on getting Talk, here's a link.

Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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Nethojs29 said:
Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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actually, the update used to say they're trying their best to bring hangout to all devices, including gingerbread.

Hangouts is a WhatsApp copycat which does nothing to integrate Google services and somehow manages to remove functionality with the inability to initiate audio-only voicechats. It's a shameless maneuver designed to force Google+ down users' throats.
What's worse, once this rolls into Gmail there's a good chance we'll lose the ability to make phone calls.

sirslope said:
Hangouts is a WhatsApp copycat which does nothing to integrate Google services and somehow manages to remove functionality with the inability to initiate audio-only voicechats. It's a shameless maneuver designed to force Google+ down users' throats.
What's worse, once this rolls into Gmail there's a good chance we'll lose the ability to make phone calls.
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It's not a whatsapp copy cat, but an evolution. Let me know when whatsapp let's me message from the pc and the tablet and we'll talk.
Also, no one is forcing Google+.
And they are adding voice chat support soon, but most likely be through Google voice. Also adding SMS support, which will take it even further beyond whatsapp.
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enviii said:
It's not a whatsapp copy cat, but an evolution. Let me know when whatsapp let's me message from the pc and the tablet and we'll talk.
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If Hangouts were an evolution, Google wouldn't have tried (and failed) to acquire WhatsApp twice over. I do like the ability to communicate via PC / tablet but Google Talk already had this. What exactly is new here besides features that were already present in WhatsApp?

sirslope said:
If Hangouts were an evolution, Google wouldn't have tried (and failed) to acquire WhatsApp twice over. I do like the ability to communicate via PC / tablet but Google Talk already had this. What exactly is new here besides features that were already present in WhatsApp?
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It's an earlier release for gods sake! Compare the first day of whatsapp with hangouts and see the differences!
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To bad your not feeling it bro. I'm liking it so far . If i get SMS integration I will be really happy.
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Nethojs29 said:
Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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Its already shows as an update on my LG Optimus 2x which is still running Gingerbread lol. Used it but uninstalled it & now back to Google Talk .
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the only thing missing from hangouts for me is the ability to see the status of my contacts (whether they are available, away, busy or offline). otherwise i have no problems with it, especially that this is still an early release, it has still a long way to go. just be patient and you'll see!
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I like the fact that it's save chat history including images. No need to backup specific folder with every ROM update.
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exb0 said:
Don't be like one of them facebook biatches that complain every time they release a new update. Sure you might not like it at first, but you'll get used to it.
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Thanks for knowing what is best for me! Your the greatest. Also that .apk didn't work.
I love how some of you are such little fanboys that you actually think the way they are handling this is "OK." If I wanted something shoved down my throat, I woulda bought an iphone. We are beta testing this festering turd for them...and I don't want to lose functionality being a beta tester with no option to revert back.
Hangouts is complete garbage in it's current state. It's current state makes it a good replacement for the MESSENGER app...except they didn't even include ****ing SMS. It is however not a good replacement for talk.
Talk is an IM app. The beauty was I could open talk, look at statuses, know where people were (desktop, mobile, etc), and talk to people on the fly. Now I have no ****ing idea who/what I am messaging, if they are sitting in a conference call, or if they are just bored at their computer at work. I also use to to communicate with my wife...when it is green she is at her desk...when it is away I will just call or SMS her and not expect an instant response. Now I just lob a message out there without knowing if I am interrupting her at work or if she will respond in a few hours or a few seconds.
I am also no longer available for video chat for the people using talk. My whopping 100 minutes cell phone plan means I rely on talk heavily to talk to my family and my wife with video chats. They want to get up with me...they just video message me. No cell phone minutes used. Now they have to message me to get me to invite them to a video call....because I am using the **** that is hangouts and for whatever reason I am no longer available for video chat.
So once again...this app sucks in its current state for MY uses. Being FORCED to be a beta tester isn't my idea of fun.
Anyways...still looking how to get back to just straight old TALK if anyone has any other ideas.

y0bailey said:
Thanks for knowing what is best for me! Your the greatest. Also that .apk didn't work.
I love how some of you are such little fanboys that you actually think the way they are handling this is "OK." If I wanted something shoved down my throat, I woulda bought an iphone. We are beta testing this festering turd for them...and I don't want to lose functionality being a beta tester with no option to revert back.
Hangouts is complete garbage in it's current state. It's current state makes it a good replacement for the MESSENGER app...except they didn't even include ****ing SMS. It is however not a good replacement for talk.
Talk is an IM app. The beauty was I could open talk, look at statuses, know where people were (desktop, mobile, etc), and talk to people on the fly. Now I have no ****ing idea who/what I am messaging, if they are sitting in a conference call, or if they are just bored at their computer at work. I also use to to communicate with my wife...when it is green she is at her desk...when it is away I will just call or SMS her and not expect an instant response. Now I just lob a message out there without knowing if I am interrupting her at work or if she will respond in a few hours or a few seconds.
I am also no longer available for video chat for the people using talk. My whopping 100 minutes cell phone plan means I rely on talk heavily to talk to my family and my wife with video chats. They want to get up with me...they just video message me. No cell phone minutes used. Now they have to message me to get me to invite them to a video call....because I am using the **** that is hangouts and for whatever reason I am no longer available for video chat.
So once again...this app sucks in its current state for MY uses. Being FORCED to be a beta tester isn't my idea of fun.
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A beta test is an apt description. What other plausible explanation is there for leaving out such basic features as status icons / messages and voicechat?
I can understand various media outlets / blogs being fooled by the aesthetics (read: WhatsApp lookalike), but I expect logic to prevail on this forum and justifying the loss of features amounts to fanboyism in its purest form.

enviii said:
Also, no one is forcing Google+.
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To my knowledge it doesn't work if you don't have a Google+ account.

I don't like that Google has forced users to choose between gtalk and hangouts, especially since they are listing several important features as forthcoming. I do however, understand them wanting to increase the adoption of g+ because when glass comes out the g+ features that it adds will be simply amazing and unless users are already used to, and actively using g+ they won't see any reason to have glass.
All in all I think it's a smart move by Google, unpopular yes, but still smart over the long term.
I'm just dealing with it for now, I wasn't a gtalk user so the loss of features doesn't bother me in the slightest, I'm only irked by the loss of choice.
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Hangouts sucks!
I do not like it.
In previous versions of JellyBam it can be downgraded, just uninstalling updates, but now in 8.4.0, I had to remove Hangouts, I prefer not having a Google IM than having Hangouts.
It seems that Google was bought by MS, they are doing things that show they do not care about people.

Have a question about new Hangout and SMS feautre

So I was all excited about it, the new Hangout and today I installed it. Now let me get this straight, the SMS feature, that will just replace my native messaging app and I will be sending SMS via Hangout instead of my native app, and it will be sent normally via my carrier. I mean why on earth would one use this feature? What am I missing here? What's the point?

Same here... In my case the most annpying thing is that it doewnt allow to cuztomize who shows and who doesnt, i have now a lot of people that i dont care just for following them on g+...
Nah... Uninstalling
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ktouy said:
Same here... In my case the most annpying thing is that it doewnt allow to cuztomize who shows and who doesnt, i have now a lot of people that i dont care just for following them on g+...
Nah... Uninstalling
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Yeah exactly. If iPhone 5C is the most ridiculous device of this planet, then this so called 'upgrade' of G-Talk to Hangout is the most ridiculous software update ever made
God I am so happy I kept Talk's backup in several places.:victory:

Are you guys using Hangouts for your messaging app?

I'm assuming hangouts is now the best out there, now that google incorporated it.
What are you guys using?

Nope
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fastfed said:
I'm assuming hangouts is now the best out there, now that google incorporated it.
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Not quite sure how you came to that conclusion. I am going to try just using the default messaging app for now.

I did with my last phone. But not with this one. I don't like the same pic for different ways to chat with the same person.
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carbonize said:
Not quite sure how you came to that conclusion. I am going to try just using the default messaging app for now.
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Hmmm.. because it makes things 100 times easier. You can text from your phone, get home or at work and continue right from your computer.
It was googles answer to Imessage for the Gphone.
Also has video calling RIGHT from the app, no need to switch and hope the other person has something installed

fastfed said:
I'm assuming hangouts is now the best out there, now that google incorporated it.
What are you guys using?
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I've gone back and forth, Hangouts sometimes takes a while to launch which annoys me since I drive all day for work and like to respond to texts at stoplights. I've just enabled ART so maybe I will see better performance.
As for texting on my other devices I've been using Mighty Text on PC, Nexus 7 and phone for a while. It is ok but reading a text on PC or Tablet does not clear it from the phone, I never tried Hangouts on the other ones.

fastfed said:
Hmmm.. because it makes things 100 times easier. You can text from your phone, get home or at work and continue right from your computer.
It was googles answer to Imessage for the Gphone.
Also has video calling RIGHT from the app, no need to switch and hope the other person has something installed
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OK we were at cross purposes, I thought you meant are we using Hangouts as our SMS app. Is it the best? Down to personal choice. I mostly use Facebook since that's what most of my family are on. I have some people on Hangouts but the main person I speak to on Hangouts I have spoken to for years, originally on MSN and then gTalk so now Hangouts.

Er... no. I find EvolveSMS much better, completely uninstalled hangouts from phone. ..

I tried using Hangout. I did enjoy it, however, am using new app and am much enjoying it.

MMS pictures pixels

I have been scrolling through looking for answers, I have a s7 on att fully stocked. When I send a pic through the default app or a 3nd party ( exp: chomp, hangouts) about 2 out of 10 pics come out looking chopped in half and messed up on the receivers end. I have noticed this with people on multiple carriers and a range of different model phones receiving the pics.
Any answers? I have already hard reset it and problem continues...

Idk but this is happening to my wife's phone and it's pretty annoying.
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16vMK1 said:
Idk but this is happening to my wife's phone and it's pretty annoying.
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I know, I have done resets, different messenger apps and other things testing. I'm pretty advanced with android but even this I come up short with. I wish someone had a answer. Is your wife on att also? Does she have the new wifi calling enabled? If so sms goes out over wifi not just calls. I have noticed it with and with out wifi calling enabled. I just want to find a common variable between them. :silly:

crapymonkey2012 said:
I know, I have done resets, different messenger apps and other things testing. I'm pretty advanced with android but even this I come up short with. I wish someone had a answer. Is your wife on att also? Does she have the new wifi calling enabled? If so sms goes out over wifi not just calls. I have noticed it with and with out wifi calling enabled. I just want to find a common variable between them. :silly:
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Yeah we are on att. I don't know if she does I'll have to check.
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It's noticeably better using Allo. The pictures are so good MMS compression ruins them!

joe3681 said:
It's noticeably better using Allo. The pictures are so good MMS compression ruins them!
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I've heard so much about the security issues in apllo, I wonder about it. Have you had any issues or concerns.

crapymonkey2012 said:
I have been scrolling through looking for answers, I have a s7 on att fully stocked. When I send a pic through the default app or a 3nd party ( exp: chomp, hangouts) about 2 out of 10 pics come out looking chopped in half and messed up on the receivers end. I have noticed this with people on multiple carriers and a range of different model phones receiving the pics.
Any answers? I have already hard reset it and problem continues...
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When att released the advanced messaging feature. I've had this issue, I would get chopped pictures or none at all (failed to download). After disabling the advanced messaging feature. I haven't had this issue.
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crapymonkey2012 said:
I've heard so much about the security issues in apllo, I wonder about it. Have you had any issues or concerns.
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Not really but we don't use it for anything serious. There's always incognito mode that offers encryption.

nahrah said:
When att released the advanced messaging feature. I've had this issue, I would get chopped pictures or none at all (failed to download). After disabling the advanced messaging feature. I haven't had this issue.
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I did for a few days use the advanced messengers that att released. But I've been using chomp and other also.

joe3681 said:
Not really but we don't use it for anything serious. There's always incognito mode that offers encryption.
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I remember reading a article that was released soon after allo was, that the fbi warned about the security of allo.

crapymonkey2012 said:
I remember reading a article that was released soon after allo was, that the fbi warned about the security of allo.
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Actually Snowden did. Because there's no real ecryption. Again, unless you use Incognito mode.

joe3681 said:
Actually Snowden did. Because there's no real ecryption. Again, unless you use Incognito mode.
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It may have been, I didn't think it was him. Wish I would have saved that article.

For those who have it...can we discuss the horrid new messenger app

its horrible, you can't send higher res pics, you can even take a picture within the app without horrible quality

between Google messenger, and WhatsApp, i got everything I need.
I've never bothered with MMS, they have always been a pain to use, and compatibility across cell phone carriers it's abysmal.
I you are from Company A, you send MMS to friend on another phone Company B, chances are they will not get the picture.
that happened so often, that made MMS obsolete, specially with the intro of Skype, WhatsApp, WeChat, QQ, ICQ, Hangout,etc...

Toss out all HTC stock apps is my suggestion. Get Google dialer. Get Google messenger or Facebook messenger if you want chatheads. Get Google calendar. Get Google clock.

Cryosx said:
Toss out all HTC stock apps is my suggestion. Get Google dialer. Get Google messenger or Facebook messenger if you want chatheads. Get Google calendar. Get Google clock.
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Textra also does chat heads too :fingers-crossed:

Sooo the stock messages app is the google messenger app, just realized it while trying to download it, I hate it, it's sends low res pictures, is there anyway to change quality or another good txt msg app?

Cryosx said:
Toss out all HTC stock apps is my suggestion. Get Google dialer. Get Google messenger or Facebook messenger if you want chatheads. Get Google calendar. Get Google clock.
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I use Google Messenger, Calendar and Inbox instead of HTC's apps, but I do keep HTC's flip clock, it's an emblem.
And what's wrong with HTC's dialer, but the dark theme not available ?

Google messenger and Android messenger are they the same of different

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Google messenger and Android messenger are they the same of different
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Same. Android is just the name of the system Google developed.

Texting and MMS?!? Haven't used those for the last couple of years. WhatsApp has me covered for pretty much everything and more.
Good if you have no data signal though for a quick message.

MMS? Does that still exists?? I can't remember receiving one. And never sent one... Yes in the early days.

*justintime* said:
MMS? Does that still exists?? I can't remember receiving one. And never sent one... Yes in the early days.
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Muricans still love em, for some reason.
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Everyone I know has an iPhone so sure they gave iMessage, I'm stuck with mms lol
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Well lookie here... Looks like Sprint getting HTC Messages back :good:
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*justintime* said:
MMS? Does that still exists?? I can't remember receiving one. And never sent one... Yes in the early days.
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unfortunately for me, my siblings and mom insist on a group MMS for communication. I've tried to get them to hangouts, allo, basically anything else. but no luck.
so annoying.

OMJ said:
Well lookie here... Looks like Sprint getting HTC Messages back :good:
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I actually was a beta tester for HTC for the new msgs app it's the exact same as the one on the 10