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Well as 99% of you know the SIII has been launched, with a whole host of software features.
What are the chances of us getting some of these features? A couple that appeal to me are the Music Hub (newer less usless version) and the new dongle that mirror to the TV.
It'd be great to get these features.
(Could this be the reason ICS got delayed?)
We gets the hubs for music, movies and the others.
Faceunlock but if u close your eyes and the screen goes off this feature is only for sgs3 and the videofrature too.
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We'll never have them 'cause the s3 was "designed for humans" and the note was designed for aliens lol
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I would like to see the improved camera software for our Note, such as faster shutter speed (current speed annoys me compared to my SGS1 Epic 4G which has a super fast shutter) and 3.3 second between shots.
I'm very interested in the AllShare Cast wireless streaming dongle.
I can't see any reason it wouldn't be offered for the Note, or any modern Samsung device for that matter.
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We'll never have them 'cause the s3 was "designed for humans" and the note was designed for aliens lol
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maybe not aliens.. but gods...
nah, just kiddin
Yes well get all of them....cept that really crappy sIII feature: that 4'8" screen.
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I'm very interested in the AllShare Cast wireless streaming dongle.
I can't see any reason it wouldn't be offered for the Note, or any modern Samsung device for that matter.
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i really want wireless display mirroring too!
hope our NOTE meet the hardware requirement....
We will get all of them soon...Just give our devs couple of months
What about the Siri clone? You think we will get it?
Well, if we do get it (and im sure eventually in time it will be), the only thing that I'm pretty sure we won't ever get is NFC... (this is after all the International Note version thread), this needs the hardware part... which I'm pretty sure our Note lacks the better part of it as well.
I feel like a good chunk if not almost all of these features could be ported to our Notes. Seeing as they've said that the quad core Exynos is supposed to be pin for pin identical to the dual cores in the fact that they can be changed out without having to alter your design I'd have to think the whole setup is similar, but I'm just guessing. The biggest thing I've been wondering about is with the whole zero shutter lag. Is it possible to port or give our older phones this ability? I don't know if new hardware is physically required or if it's all software? If my Note could have zero shutter lag, or even much faster shutter speeds and ICS. I'm perfectly happy without the SIII.
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We will get all of them soon...Just give our devs couple of months
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Yup, that's true:
http://opendesign.blamesamsung.org
It would be interesting if they held the Note's ICS update back, so they can show off all the new features on their flagship first. Rather than the S3 announcement essentially being; 'Its got all the features of the Note but its smaller and has no SPen'
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It would be interesting if they held the Note's ICS update back, so they can show off all the new features on their flagship first. Rather than the S3 announcement essentially being; 'Its got all the features of the Note but its smaller and has no SPen'
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Whilst I'm not a fan of threads such as this (prefer waiting), you are likely on the money. With 3 million Notes sold and S3 launch, you don't want to steal the new arrivals thunder!
Nexus S ICS was on Google Employees handsets for ages before publically released as Google needed to get units of Galaxy Nexus shifted.
Any timeframe extension the inhouse devs might have been given to allow for the launch of the S3 (in developing ICS mainstream Samsung build, Note extras and other device specific extras for say S2 for example) can only be a good thing.
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I feel like a good chunk if not almost all of these features could be ported to our Notes. Seeing as they've said that the quad core Exynos is supposed to be pin for pin identical to the dual cores in the fact that they can be changed out without having to alter your design I'd have to think the whole setup is similar, but I'm just guessing. The biggest thing I've been wondering about is with the whole zero shutter lag. Is it possible to port or give our older phones this ability? I don't know if new hardware is physically required or if it's all software? If my Note could have zero shutter lag, or even much faster shutter speeds and ICS. I'm perfectly happy without the SIII.
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You stole the words right out of my mouth.
I personally feel that most of the features should be able to get ported, especially the new TouchWiz Launcher Nature UX. Its essentially got the ICS stock feel with a Widget tab while allowing transparency.
I am hoping to get the ROM ported with features from the note, mainly SMemo stuff over to the note, that would be a delight.
Good Luck Dev's
I am not really impressed with the SIII, I am not saying it's bad rather it's awesome and I would have wanted it on day one had I not had my GNote. 4.8 is still small and it feels awkward saying that.
Coming to your question, who knows it might all be the ICS Update, if not then in Note II definitely.
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This is what i posted in the main ICS thread & this is what I feel..
I think Galaxy note will get ICS updates inline with Galaxy S2 with the addition of premium suite. Both of them are previous years's model.
Galaxy note 2 & Galaxy S3 will have same feature set.
From business point of view if Galaxy note gets the features then Galaxy note 2 will be only a hardware upgrade. Well that wouldnt create the hype would it ?
Regarding porting to our note our devs will certainly turn the magic wheels....
I am leaning towards the PORT and not a Samsung Supported update due to the same reason of Productization and ensuring that the customer can differentiate between the Note and the SGS III, otherwise the Note will win with the features and screen size, but lacking the Quad Core.
I also feel with a complete ICS build running on the Note it probably won't be that much slower than the GSIII despite dual vs. quad. Heck people said it's the same GPU just overclocked right? As for Note 2 I wouldn't be surprised if they introduce some new features. Maybe HD SuperAMOLED+? Wasn't the Note the first Samsung phone to have the HD Screen, GLONASS, S-Pen, etc?
As for some of the new features my Droid Charge which is basically just Galaxy S hardware has the newer launcher, widgets, and some of the features from the Galaxy SII. So I think we could see stuff brought to our Note!!
Does anyone have experience running Note 2 Custom ROMS and can provide comparisons to running Note 3 rooted after pruning all the bloat?
Trying to decide between the two and was looking for some straight comparisons, such as snappiness, visual quality in graphical programs/games, and possibly s-pen recognition/accuracy.
One particular thing I'm interested to know is how hooking up to a smart dock compares between the two, what resolutions they output and any interesting performance comparisons with that specifically.
I asked some similar questions at this post, but this is much less AT&T specific.
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Does anyone have experience running Note 2 Custom ROMS and can provide comparisons to running Note 3 rooted after pruning all the bloat?
Trying to decide between the two and was looking for some straight comparisons, such as snappiness, visual quality in graphical programs/games, and possibly s-pen recognition/accuracy.
One particular thing I'm interested to know is how hooking up to a smart dock compares between the two, what resolutions they output and any interesting performance comparisons with that specifically.
I asked some similar questions at this post, but this is much less AT&T specific.
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i say its best you try out both and decide which one u prefer.
when i got my first fone(the glorious htc HD2) i played around with their original/modded roms vs cm/aosp and i found i prefer CM6(latest back then) because of its ease of use and minimalistic looks.
it took a bit of getting use to but once i did,i found i love CM more as the days went by.
I have the note 2 and note 3 and had them since their early launch.used both TW and CM.i still prefer the simplistic nature of CM.and TW cannot even come close to it.
Plus,with a customised rom,u get rid of all that samsung bloatware and free your ram & memory so the phone can perform better and have more space to store things.
that being said,there are pros and cons between the 2,the best is you give each one a go.
My opinion,even though i have the note 3 now,i still use my note 2 with CM 10.1.3 because its rock stable and minimalistic.if i cannot put cm in my note 3,i'd probably sell it off since its practically worthless with all its hardware glory but useless TW rom.
Thanks for the response. So even though the note 3 is supposed to be blazing fast at everything compared to the note 2 in terms of specs, you find yourself using the note 2 more often because of the custom ROM making it that much more easy to use, familiar, snappy etc.? The more you can elaborate on a comparison the better, especially with custom ROM + note2 vs note3.
I'm really looking for like you responded, tons of opinions on performance considerations between the two. I've tried tons of custom ROMs on the android phones i've used in the past, and I'm hesitant to try one on the note 2 that I got at best buy recently because I'm seriously considering just getting a note 3 for the performance alone and being done with it. I really like the size of the notes and the s-pen functionality in particular so all it comes down to at this point is whether giving up custom ROMs for the note3 is worth it.
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Thanks for the response. So even though the note 3 is supposed to be blazing fast at everything compared to the note 2 in terms of specs, you find yourself using the note 2 more often because of the custom ROM making it that much more easy to use, familiar, snappy etc.? The more you can elaborate on a comparison the better, especially with custom ROM + note2 vs note3.
I'm really looking for like you responded, tons of opinions on performance considerations between the two. I've tried tons of custom ROMs on the android phones i've used in the past, and I'm hesitant to try one on the note 2 that I got at best buy recently because I'm seriously considering just getting a note 3 for the performance alone and being done with it. I really like the size of the notes and the s-pen functionality in particular so all it comes down to at this point is whether giving up custom ROMs for the note3 is worth it.
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i use note 2 more becoz i like CM and not TW.Stock TW runs alot of useless apps on the background.eating up my ram,cpu and battery.not only does that affect performance(battery life,snappiness etc),its irritates the hell out of me when i see apps i dun use running in the background.and the interface on TW is pretty bloated,i usually change CM launcher to Nemus launcher for minimalistic look and performance...again customisability.
if you want a detailed comparison,i can't give you. but what i can let you know is the following:
-note 3 specs are better note 2 obviously.
-note 3 on TW performs abt the same as note 2 on CM.its snappy,no lag issues.spen fuctionality is limited on CM and full on TW(for obvious reason).so imagine if you put CM on note 3,it will be the ****z.
-note 3's battery life is on par with note 2 on CM.this is due mainly with kernel and rom issues since CM in minimalistic and running minimal apps in the background as compared to stock,unmodded TW on note 3.put CM or a modded TW in,note 3 will beat note 2 hands down.
-note 2 does not have knox,while note 3 has,that is a major crap every note 3 users are facing.this means,flashing customised rom or recovery will trip knox counter and will limit your note 3 to pretty much paper weight.
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=47865015#post47865015)
-note 3 uses usb 3,that means faster charging and data transfer rate and its backward compatible with usb 2.a major improvement in my opinion and its not using some proprietary cables like crapple.
in all,i find the improvements on note 3 and note 2 are about 30-35%. except for a higher resolution,a slighty faster 4 core cpu,a slight better gpu, abt 1 gb more ram, and a bigger battery/screen.
compared that with a note to a note 2,the improvements are like almost 60% imo.
but its best to get new phones than old imo.coz when every one starts moving to newer model of phone,development for old ones will start to die.unless its the HD2..where it never dies.....lol.
I know hardware wise the Note 3 is better. What I am interested in knowing is, probably hard to really say, what the outlook might be on custom firmware for the Note 3's. There seems to be a vast selection for the S4...
With either one I would run firmware that would void the warranty.
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I know hardware wise the Note 3 is better. What I am interested in knowing is, probably hard to really say, what the outlook might be on custom firmware for the Note 3's. There seems to be a vast selection for the S4...
With either one I would run firmware that would void the warranty.
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Judging by the custom ROM ratio in Note2 vs S3 I would say that if you are a flashaholic you are better with the S4; for everybody else the extra RAM, screen size, CPU power and eventually the stylus might make the Note 3 a more tempting choice.
If you'd like to run the latest Kitkat 4.4 right now and customize every single piece, the choice obviously would be S4. Otherwise Note3 is much better according to the incredible specs. The stylus and related apps are very useful and work pretty well together. The rom can be modified as well, such as removing stock apps, remapping hardware keys, and so on.
In my opinion, Note3 is way better than S4 on every aspect except the higher price. I chose Note3 over S4 and Sony Z1 one month ago. So far I am very satisfied.
Pen or no pen is the question to you, decide that and you get your answer. Both devices are great for me with N3 a bit better hardware wise but not too much than S4 except the pen.
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Hi im a gs3 user and want to own gs4...but ive heard many problems concerning this phone, like random reboots and freezing while call..also autorotate problems after uodate to kitkat
Does these problems can be solved with customs roms? Or should i stay with my s3?
Thnksssssss a looooooooooooooooooottttt and sorry if its repeated thread....bcz im in rush. ..
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Hi im a gs3 user and want to own gs4...but ive heard many problems concerning this phone, like random reboots and freezing while call..also autorotate problems after uodate to kitkat
Does these problems can be solved with customs roms? Or should i stay with my s3?
Thnksssssss a looooooooooooooooooottttt and sorry if its repeated thread....bcz im in rush. ..
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I had a S3 i747 and I was pretty satisfied with it, I had it with CM11 and just love it badly and think that an S4 upgrade will be unnecesary because I didn't see why the people get excited when it was first launched.
Recently I had the oportunity of hold a S4 in my hands and I see that is not larger than a S3 and I liked so much its design, the size of the LED button, its screen size and the quadcore procesosr improvement also was good so I decide to go for a S4. I bought a second hand i337m S4 for about US 300 after sold my i747 in about US 250 so it was a no thinking situation for me. I haven't noticed any annoying bug on stock rom, the camera app was pretty cool with plenty of effects and WatchOn app was great to control your TV. I'm a hardened CM fan so I can't wait to see it on my cellphone so I installed it and so far (I have CM for about 5 days now) the only bug I have see is that while the phone is charging, you can't power on the cellphone (you just have to disconnect it and power on, not a big deal), for TV control I use Peel Smart Remote App and it works just as good as Samsung's app
In conclusion: I would say that if you feel good with your S3 you have no particular need for buy a S4 (probably get the same experience with some improvements) but if you have the oportunity of upgrade at a good price, then go for it
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Hi im a gs3 user and want to own gs4...but ive heard many problems concerning this phone, like random reboots and freezing while call..also autorotate problems after uodate to kitkat
Does these problems can be solved with customs roms? Or should i stay with my s3?
Thnksssssss a looooooooooooooooooottttt and sorry if its repeated thread....bcz im in rush. ..
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Hi,
some users have problems with Kitkat and some don't.
In general custom roms are running better than the original system. My guess. I'm very satisfied with S4 developed custom roms
It is your choice. There aren't any big hardware changes except full HD screen and camera quality.
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cristianpark said:
I had a S3 i747 and I was pretty satisfied with it, I had it with CM11 and just love it badly and think that an S4 upgrade will be unnecesary because I didn't see why the people get excited when it was first launched.
Recently I had the oportunity of hold a S4 in my hands and I see that is not larger than a S3 and I liked so much its design, the size of the LED button, its screen size and the quadcore procesosr improvement also was good so I decide to go for a S4. I bought a second hand i337m S4 for about US 300 after sold my i747 in about US 250 so it was a no thinking situation for me. I haven't noticed any annoying bug on stock rom, the camera app was pretty cool with plenty of effects and WatchOn app was great to control your TV. I'm a hardened CM fan so I can't wait to see it on my cellphone so I installed it and so far (I have CM for about 5 days now) the only bug I have see is that while the phone is charging, you can't power on the cellphone (you just have to disconnect it and power on, not a big deal), for TV control I use Peel Smart Remote App and it works just as good as Samsung's app
In conclusion: I would say that if you feel good with your S3 you have no particular need for buy a S4 (probably get the same experience with some improvements) but if you have the oportunity of upgrade at a good price, then go for it
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thanks for yr reply, i very appreciate it ... nice if y didnt have issues with it, some people does... bcz there are some who has the issues that i have mentioned before, and i thought they will be resolved by a custom rom....
thanks again................
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Hi,
some users have problems with Kitkat and some don't.
In general custom roms are running better than the original system. My guess. I'm very satisfied with S4 developed custom roms
It is your choice. There aren't any big hardware changes except full HD screen and camera quality.
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thanks for yr reply...... yes custom roms are amazing... ill buy a S4 and see....hope no problems
thanks a lottttttttttttttttttt
I had S3 and I have now S4 (i9500) with Kitkat update, S4 have 2 GB Memory (S3 only 1 GB) & it is more smooth than S3, S4 also doesn't lag as much as S3 do.
in general S4 is a nice update for your current S3, but if you want my advice try to get S5, the screen in S5 is way more accurate and better than S4 screen, the battery also is more powerful.
it depends on how much you are ready to pay $.
Hi i also upgraded from s3 to s4 last October, i would. Recommend You to upgrade to s4 as it is a really good and compact device with 1080p display and thin bezels, unlike the ugly s5 which isn't compact.
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I am preordered and have been eagerly awaiting my Note 4. Of course, the longer it takes the more I second guess... many new compelling phones coming out. But what concerns me is how the phone will perform with Android L. For previous Note owners or Samsung owners- how has the phone been after OS grades? I am worried because as a iphone owner, the phone typically slower with each update.
thanks
I think it's way too early to tell to be honest.
I've had an S3 for the past 2 years, and got rid of Touchwiz etc as soon as I got it, running Paranoid Android then CM10/11 as they became more fully functional. I don't have any real issues with lag or anything, and I suspect things will really hot up on the dev front in the next few weeks for the Note 4.
The big question now is Exynos or Snapdragon (for those of us brave enough to try importing), and whether the Exynos chip is gimped to 32bit, or will be fully upgradable and will support 64bit when Android L comes out. I guess we'll have to see.
I'm happy (or at least I hop I will be!) that I've imported an Exynos version - so if it's gimped - so what, everyone else with one is in the same boat. If it's not; bonus come Android L!
Both CPU's on The Galaxy Note 4 is 32bit. Android L supports 64bit. My experience, performance has never been the issue with OS upgraded rather that battery life takes a hit. The Galaxy Note series does not seem to have packed OS features compared to S4/S5. Samsung seems to not care to add features to the Note series. In addition even though the Note 4 will receive Android L, only one or two features will be present as TouchWiz takes up at least 80% of the phone with 20% Google.
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Both CPU's on The Galaxy Note 4 is 32bit. Android L supports 64bit. My experience, performance has never been the issue with OS upgraded rather that battery life takes a hit. The Galaxy Note series does not seem to have packed OS features compared to S4/S5. Samsung seems to not care to add features to the Note series. In addition even though the Note 4 will receive Android L, only one or two features will be present as TouchWiz takes up at least 80% of the phone with 20% Google.
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The Exynos version is Cortex A53 + Cortex A57.
Aside from a couple of teething problems which are usually fixed pretty quickly with a further OTA update, I can honestly say that upgrades on my Samsung devices have been a positive experience.
iOS has had probably a worse experience with upgrades and iOS 8 is proof that it can all go horribly wrong requiring a temporary withdrawal.
Bottom line is, I wouldn't worry too much! You could always hold off installing the update and keep an eye on these forums to see what - if any -problems users are having.
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Android L release is not an issue at all. Samsung is always ahead in software releases.
what i don't know is that exynos is 20nm while snap is 28nm....i don't know what to do , i'm from italy and the exynos model will never arrive here but in the other hands snap version will have roms ....
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what i don't know is that exynos is 20nm while snap is 28nm....i don't know what to do , i'm from italy and the exynos model will never arrive here but in the other hands snap version will have roms ....
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This is the point... It makes it hard to choose. Exynos or snap
Custom Roms
all of note 4 users are waiting for developers, if they will support exynos or snap, I think snap will get the most care.
in my area it suppose to be available here next year and sites say that we will get exynos version.