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ok, i'm quite satisfied with the nexus 4's camera but yesterday when I was comparing shots with my friend who owns an htc one x, i got a little bit jealous as her pictures had a wider angle lol. when she previews pics, it really occupies the entire screen. so are there any apps that can help me get wider angle pics or is it a hardware limitation? because my friend also showed me that you can change the pic dimension from 4:3 to 16:9 in htc's stock camera app, and i can't seem to find that in my camera app.
Try Camera MX. It's set to 16:9 by default
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.magix.camera_mx
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If you're talking about the screen, I agree our N4's view angle is nowhere near HOX. And there're no software could help that, it's from the design... pixel arrangement or something. Your another point, when viewing in Gallery, I also note that the portion where statusbar located is wasted, we can't use full screen. This happen to JB gallery while ICS gallery also use statusbar space. I'm not sure what the reason behind this. If you like, you can try QuickPic... it might use full screen, but I still think stock gallery is better.
edited: Pardon me for I confused "wide angle" with "view angle".... just ignore my reply then
AW: nice camera, but...
16:9 just crops the pic. You can just zoom to achieve the same. Sensors are 4:3 so it will just worsen the quality.
The other thing is the focal length. I won't go into detail as it is explained enough on the web, but the nex has a fl of 33mm in 35mm equivalent and the hox has 28mm which means it has a wider angle, thus getting more covert, but it also has drawbacks.
And btw, this is an interesting post:
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13her35bk2ldjj3a235fvlh1xe0eximz
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abufaka said:
16:9 just crops the pic. You can just zoom to achieve the same. Sensors are 4:3 so it will just worsen the quality.
The other thing is the focal length. I won't go into detail as it is explained enough on the web, but the nex has a fl of 33mm in 35mm equivalent and the hox has 28mm which means it has a wider angle, thus getting more covert, but it also has drawbacks.
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Ok, it is a hardware limitation then. i know i'm just being lazy here but can you just give me the biggest drawback of wider angle cameras? just so i feel better lol
Haha, if camera's that important, should have switched, or get a hand-held on the side, I guess.
discovered another flaw today. the screen of htc one x looks much more vibrant than the nex4.
haha i still love my phone, it's blazing fast and i know it won't easily get obsolete. But I wish review sites pointed these weaknesses out.
cribol said:
discovered another flaw today. the screen of htc one x looks much more vibrant than the nex4.
haha i still love my phone, it's blazing fast and i know it won't easily get obsolete. But I wish review sites pointed these weaknesses out.
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Hox screen is over saturated. N4 is more accurate so less punchy. I have both to compare against reference images.
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cribol said:
Ok, it is a hardware limitation then. i know i'm just being lazy here but can you just give me the biggest drawback of wider angle cameras? just so i feel better lol
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Heh heh... with all other things being equal, there is essentially no advantage/disadvantage to either of these two focal lengths. It simply means that when composing the exact same picture, The nexus 4 will need to be a little further away than the HTC. Conversely, your friend will need to get closer. Sometimes it is easier to do one than the other, other times not.
AW: nice camera, but...
cribol said:
Ok, it is a hardware limitation then. i know i'm just being lazy here but can you just give me the biggest drawback of wider angle cameras? just so i feel better lol
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Lines get bent. The wider the angle the more fisheyey it gets.
But that's the extremes. I just realised poster before me essentialy said the correct thing for this exact use case.
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cribol said:
ok, i'm quite satisfied with the nexus 4's camera but yesterday when I was comparing shots with my friend who owns an htc one x, i got a little bit jealous as her pictures had a wider angle lol. when she previews pics, it really occupies the entire screen. so are there any apps that can help me get wider angle pics or is it a hardware limitation? because my friend also showed me that you can change the pic dimension from 4:3 to 16:9 in htc's stock camera app, and i can't seem to find that in my camera app.
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Try photo sphere, you won't need more angle than that
Hi there, not sure if this is a common problem or not.
Whenever I take a photo on the phone it appears okay, but when I start to zoom in it comes out really blurry. The camera's set to 13mp and even on 9.6 it's blurry too. Is it like this for everyone?
Welcome to the primary drawback of digital zoom.
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The quality will get more poor whenever you zoom in. I haven't had any issues with poor quality while zooming yet, but I'll have an eye open for it.
Pagnell said:
Welcome to the primary drawback of digital zoom.
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Haha, I meant after I'd taken the picture. Back when I owned an iPhone 4 a couple years ago, zooming in after taking the picture was still crystal clear, and that was only a 5 megapixel camera..
samb222 said:
Haha, I meant after I'd taken the picture. Back when I owned an iPhone 4 a couple years ago, zooming in after taking the picture was still crystal clear, and that was only a 5 megapixel camera..
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Well... I think I get what you mean, and it has to do mainly with the resolution of the screen. When visualising pictures in a FullHD screen (2MP) the available real size is "only" 2.5times the display size on each direction. (Screen is ~2kx1k, 13MP is ~5kx2.5k pixels). And when you zoom in you quickly reach (and surpass) the real (sharp) size.
With an old phone (say 800x480) you had plenty of zooming to do before reaching the 5MP size.
The complementary reason to this is that the camera 13MP sensor is not proportionally sized with respect to good 8MP ones.
Having said all this, I find the quality of the S4 pictures to be OUTSTANDING for a mobile device.
pintycar said:
Well... I think I get what you mean, and it has to do mainly with the resolution of the screen. When visualising pictures in a FullHD screen (2MP) the available real size is "only" 2.5times the display size on each direction. (Screen is ~2kx1k, 13MP is ~5kx2.5k pixels). And when you zoom in you quickly reach (and surpass) the real (sharp) size.
With an old phone (say 800x480) you had plenty of zooming to do before reaching the 5MP size.
The complementary reason to this is that the camera 13MP sensor is not proportionally sized with respect to good 8MP ones.
Having said all this, I find the quality of the S4 pictures to be OUTSTANDING for a mobile device.
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Ah that makes more sense, thanks
Which mode/settings do you use? My pictures are good but nothing spectacular.
samb222 said:
Ah that makes more sense, thanks
Which mode/settings do you use? My pictures are good but nothing spectacular.
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I usually leave it on Auto Mode although some times I do have to lower the ISO level because it tends to like high ISO values unnecessarily. I'm not a Pro photographer though.. there's probably some thread about tips and tricks to get the best out of it.
Thanks.
Post a full res picture here so we can see if they're ok.
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Post a full res picture here so we can see if they're ok.
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This picture came out surprisingly well for a change haha. Still interested on your opinions though
Have you removed the plastic lens protector?. To do so, remove the back plate and proceed carefully with your fingernail
inolvidable said:
Have you removed the plastic lens protector?. To do so, remove the back plate and proceed carefully with your fingernail
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Yep, removed it
I'm getting lots of softness and graininess on the front camera.
I'm having the same problems with the front camera. It's so frustrating as it didn't happen with the S2!!
One thing I really liked about my N2 was the relatively wide camera angle. The camera in the N3 is great but feels a little less wide. Too bad I dont have the N2 any more to comapre side by side. Does anyone know wha the angles are on these cameras and which is wider?
Thanks
seti007 said:
One thing I really liked about my N2 was the relatively wide camera angle. The camera in the N3 is great but feels a little less wide. Too bad I dont have the N2 any more to comapre side by side. Does anyone know wha the angles are on these cameras and which is wider?
Thanks
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The camera comparison for 6 latest phones (http://www.gsmarena.com/six_way_camera_shootout-review-998p2.php).
[ nQUOTE=TiGer0;46453895]The camera comparison for 6 latest phones (http://www.gsmarena.com/six_way_camera_shootout-review-998p2.php).[/QUOTE]
thanks for the great Link. Seems like the field of view of the note 3 is less than the G2. Not sure what it is compared to the note 2 though.
The angle view of the note 2 is bigger just as the S3 angle view is bigger than the S4.
Source: I've seen it with my own eyes
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That sucks but hopefully the surround shot feature will make up for some of it. Thanks
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The angle view of the note 2 is bigger just as the S3 angle view is bigger than the S4.
Source: I've seen it with my own eyes
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Hi guys i have been messing with the video camera on the note 4 but when i press the video button the image is blurred for a 4k camera. I had this problem on the camera but resolved it when i took the ISO setting value to 100 which sharpened the image up considerably and it looked like a 2k 4k shot,but when you press the video mode button it overrides these setting and brings back the blur,does anyone know of a fix please it would be much appreciated i i go on my holidays soon and want to capture some nice shots without the dreaded blur.
Many Thanks
remove the invisible plastic from the lens. scratch the edge with your fingernails and it will be visible.
The plastic is already off
have you taken off one plastic or two ? There are two plastics covering the lens.
No all the plastic is off 1 have double checked
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I can report blur on pictures. Definitely a problem. Videos however are OK for me.
Pictures are not sharp and boundaries of objects in pic are blurry.
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Noticed that on the 6p, the pixel were much lower if u choose 16:9
Which do u perfer to shoot with? 4:3 with more pixel, or 16:9 with less pixel?
and why you do it?
Thanks.
I prefer the 16:9 just because it fills the entire screen. It would be nice if we could have it both ways though.
murphyjasonc said:
I prefer the 16:9 just because it fills the entire screen. It would be nice if we could have it both ways though.
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but the 16:9 has a lesser pixel? do u notice the picture in 16:9 have a lesser quality compare to 4:3?
I also like that the 16:9 fill the entire screen, but the quality to me is important too
mousefai0922 said:
but the 16:9 has a lesser pixel? do u notice the picture in 16:9 have a lesser quality compare to 4:3?
I also like that the 16:9 fill the entire screen, but the quality to me is important too
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I've been using both off and on. To me the difference is minimal. The 4:3 seems to be a little better in low light but in bright light I can't tell the difference. I've been using open camera app to shoot 16:9 and google camera to shoot 4:3. I haven't settled on one or the other as my main shooter yet though. I'm debating on trying pro camera to see how it does. It won't be the first couple of dollars I've wasted if it isn't any better. I'm trying to find a good one that will shoot stills while taking video. I got used to that coming from my note 3 and then G4.
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I've been using both off and on. To me the difference is minimal. The 4:3 seems to be a little better in low light but in bright light I can't tell the difference. I've been using open camera app to shoot 16:9 and google camera to shoot 4:3. I haven't settled on one or the other as my main shooter yet though. I'm debating on trying pro camera to see how it does. It won't be the first couple of dollars I've wasted if it isn't any better. I'm trying to find a good one that will shoot stills while taking video. I got used to that coming from my note 3 and then G4.
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I'm in the same boat. While I enjoy 16:9 mostly, I prefer to get as much quality to my pictures as possible with the 4:3 before any processing. That said - ProShot looks pretty nice, but unfortunately it's reported changing EV has been disabled? What a dumb move by Google...
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I've been using both off and on. To me the difference is minimal. The 4:3 seems to be a little better in low light but in bright light I can't tell the difference. I've been using open camera app to shoot 16:9 and google camera to shoot 4:3. I haven't settled on one or the other as my main shooter yet though. I'm debating on trying pro camera to see how it does. It won't be the first couple of dollars I've wasted if it isn't any better. I'm trying to find a good one that will shoot stills while taking video. I got used to that coming from my note 3 and then G4.
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the full screen disply on 16:9 is one of the main reason i choose to use it. It just kinda weird to have black space on the side.....
i havent try any other camera software.. any recommendation u have?
mousefai0922 said:
the full screen disply on 16:9 is one of the main reason i choose to use it. It just kinda weird to have black space on the side.....
i havent try any other camera software.. any recommendation u have?
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I've tried several that are in the play store. For me open camera works the best out of the free ones. Search for open camera in the play store and give it a try. It had way more options than the google camera app.
Camera sensors are generally 4:3, even professional ones most the time are.
16:9 crops the sensor, hence lower megapixelsis
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ALWAYS use 4:3 because only this way you will get all the pixels. You can resize it later and cut it down to whatever ratio you want - but you can never do it the other way round (without losing quality).
Yeah, the 4:3 vs 16:9 thing has been on my mind lately too... I like 16:9 pictures better, but when I compare the pictures I take, the only difference I notice is the 16:9 is basically zoomed in. You get no "wider" view, it just basically crops the top and bottom of the image off. There is a camera app or two that I've used that does make it wider, but those don't seem quite as nice as an image.
tele_jas said:
Yeah, the 4:3 vs 16:9 thing has been on my mind lately too... I like 16:9 pictures better, but when I compare the pictures I take, the only difference I notice is the 16:9 is basically zoomed in. You get no "wider" view, it just basically crops the top and bottom of the image off. There is a camera app or two that I've used that does make it wider, but those don't seem quite as nice as an image.
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Well the aspect ratio of the sensor is 4:3, so it cuts of pixels until you get 16:9. Changing the aspect ratio without interpolation is only possible by cropping. Interpolation is what happens in the apps you mention which leads to decreased quality.
mousefai0922 said:
but the 16:9 has a lesser pixel? do u notice the picture in 16:9 have a lesser quality compare to 4:3?
I also like that the 16:9 fill the entire screen, but the quality to me is important too
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You don't get lesser quality when shooting in 16:9, it's the exact same quality. The only difference is the image is cropped at the top and bottom to achieve the 16:9 aspect ratio.
What's weird is the S6, Note5, and G4 have the full resolution at 16:9, where the 4:3 was a cropped version of 16:9.
I shoot in 4:3 to have the full 12.2MP image. I can always crop it later.
italia0101 said:
Camera sensors are generally 4:3, even professional ones most the time are.
16:9 crops the sensor, hence lower megapixelsis
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what do u mean by crop the sensor?
Valynor said:
ALWAYS use 4:3 because only this way you will get all the pixels. You can resize it later and cut it down to whatever ratio you want - but you can never do it the other way round (without losing quality).
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but let say i shoot in 4:3, how can i cut it down to 16:9?
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Yeah, the 4:3 vs 16:9 thing has been on my mind lately too... I like 16:9 pictures better, but when I compare the pictures I take, the only difference I notice is the 16:9 is basically zoomed in. You get no "wider" view, it just basically crops the top and bottom of the image off. There is a camera app or two that I've used that does make it wider, but those don't seem quite as nice as an image.
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i do noticed that too
So to clarify, 4:3 has a wider angle and 16:9 is zoomed in right?
i just like the feeling that 16:9 takes up ur whole screen when viewing on photo app
Heisenberg said:
You don't get lesser quality when shooting in 16:9, it's the exact same quality. The only difference is the image is cropped at the top and bottom to achieve the 16:9 aspect ratio.
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so like other user are saying, is good to take it as 4:3 since u can edit later on but u cant edit when u shoot on 16:9 right?
mousefai0922 said:
but let say i shoot in 4:3, how can i cut it down to 16:9?
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Use any picture editor that features a "crop" function and remove part of the top and bottom of the original 4:3 picture until you get a 16:9 ratio or any other ratio you like (e.g. 3:2 is also common). Done.
It's the same as taking the shot in 16:9 but this way you can decide later which parts of the 4:3 you want to cut off (only top, only bottom or part of both).
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so like other user are saying, is good to take it as 4:3 since u can edit later on but u cant edit when u shoot on 16:9 right?
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Well you technically could edit a 16:9 image down to a 4:3 ratio by cropping the sides off the image. Doing this will result in an image containing even less pixels though. If you're really worried about it just take photos in the 4:3 ratio and crop them to 16:9 if you need to. I just have mine set to 16:9 all the time, I don't like the look of images in the 4:3 ratio. Using 16:9 allows the images to fill the screen on my phone, my tv, and my laptop (mostly).
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Well you technically could edit a 16:9 image down to a 4:3 ratio by cropping the sides off the image. Doing this will result in an image containing even less pixels though. If you're really worried about it just take photos in the 4:3 ratio and crop them to 16:9 if you need to. I just have mine set to 16:9 all the time, I don't like the look of images in the 4:3 ratio. Using 16:9 allows the images to fill the screen on my phone, my tv, and my laptop (mostly).
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yea, the only reason i will consider taking in 16:9 is that it fills the entire 6p screen