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Debating on Rooting the S4

Im a pure n00b. I'm About to buy my first droid phone. Im very knowledgeable about iphones and the jailbreak world but I'm not sure what would be the benefit of rooting a droid phone. I've heard the droid community is pretty wide open without rooting.
What would be some benefits of rooting a phone like the samsung galaxy s4? I did see that it will allow you to tweak bluetooth to connect a ps3 controller to it wirelessly for emulators but is it anything else that XDA could share to help push me in that direction? any cool features?
Thanks in advance.

I'd say the biggest benefit from rooting is getting rid of that crap that both Samsung and AT&T put on the S4

First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
Pretty much still running the stock rom on mine, but used root to flash a mod that allows free wifi tethering and hot spot, and an extended power menu.
Flashing roms is also a big reason most people root phones. You can pick and choose what you want(touchwiz roms or aosp) and find one you like.
I wouldnt want an android phone without rooting it.
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I mainly rooted for faux's kernel which removed the launcher lag and the messaging lag that occurs sometimes. I also rooted to removed all the bloatware.

Biggest reasons to root, for me personally, are custom roms, custom kernels, debloating, backing up and restoring apps, theming, overclocking, and undervolting. These are just my reasons personally. There are literally hundreds of other things you can do as a root user that you couldnt do otherwise.
The worst case scenario of rooting being, if you really dont find the benefit for yourself personally, its pretty easy to revert back to stock unrooted. These samsung phones now are basically unbrickable and flashing is really easy, especially if youve went through jailbreaking an iphone... lol rooting a samsung device is way easier imo.
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I root for the deep-level backup capabilities, custom kernels that improve speed and battery life, Pie Control (makes navigating & using a large phone much easier), custom ROMs, mods like Hot Spot and custom themes, and deeper level security apps (firewall, find your phone, etc).

Here are the main reasons while people usually root. In no particular order.
1. Ad blocking
2. Remove unwanted apps "bloatware"
3. Custom ROMs/ advanced custom theming
4. Custom kernels and features such as nandroid backups and under/over clocking etc.
5. Tethering/free hot spot
6. Aosp ROMs
Ultimately think of rooting as taking complete control of your device. You can do pretty much anything depending on your knowledge after you are rooted.
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thanks
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.

wotandsdwys said:
First thing, droid phones are from Motorola. Call all others android phones. It will save some unnecessary flaming.
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I was thinking the same thing..lol

How much space are you guys saving when you root and get rid of all the bloatware? How much available space is on your phone before all of your additional aps?

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djv3n0m said:
thanks everybody. starting to like the community already. alot of quick helping people here.
I'm grandfathered in with unlimited at ATT. so free hot spot and removing bloatware talked me into it. thanks.
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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.

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There is at least one downside to rooting. You can't take the updates w/o breaking root. I've not rooted my S4 yet, but am thinking about it. I always rooted my HTC phones and it would sometimes take several months for a developer to incorporate updates into a ROM. So that makes me a little gunshy with a new phone like this, as I assume there will be a few updates in the first few months. But it seems like the dev's are much more active and on top of it with the Samsung phones, so I'm tempted to go.
Main reasons I want to go are deep backup, ad blocking and being able to tweak my settings to make it so the home button does not wake up the phone. I know, the latter reason seems silly, but it's a big deal to me.
BTW, you do not need to root to be able to tether. Check out the PDANet+ app. That's what I'm using and it works great wired or via bluetooth.
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You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't.
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You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.

GiantJay said:
You should be able to take otas if you have stock recovery and are just rooted, this is how it was on the S3 at least and I don't see why you can't. Also on the S3 we always got the leaks right before the otas came out so the ROMs would always have the newest builds out before the otas usually, depending on the developer, some didn't like using leaks. But Sextape would always have a leak right before the otas dropped and we had everything usually within a day or two up to a week. But the development there was amazing on the S3. :thumbup:
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Exactly what I was going to say! Sextape always came thru on the e4gt as well. The next update would always be out before the official release. So glad to see him have stuff for the s4 as well.
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jejb said:
You can take the OTA, it will just break root. There were several threads here stating that fact here when the MDL OTA came out for the S4.
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This is generally the case with OTA's, but every year it seems like rooting becomes more straight forwsrd, especially for Samsung. As for MDL it was a specific attribute added by Samsung to tighten up control on deeper root access that broke root, but it was hardly a locked bootloader or anything that severe. Re-rooting was as simple as loading a kernel and then Odining. At this point, most manufacturers are beginning to understand the benefits of the development community. Now if we can just get the carriers to "get it."
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To put it very simple I root my phone to be free and to have my phone the way I wanted it not the way a company wants me to have it
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Once you root your phone and learn all the possibilities that come along with it, you won't go back haha It's a lot of fun after knowing your stuff. reading in this forum is probably one of, if not, the best thing/s you can do

Here it goes....

Sitting at Verizon, gonna return my turbo for a HTC One M8 simply because 1 week of having to view ads and not being able to run rooted programs is driving me ****ing nuts. Good luck guys, I can't justify the off contract price for a device that may never even see root. Sob....

Well..........
BYE

Interesting choice. I came from the M8 and can't believe you would prefer that phone myself but to each their own. Good luck man.

Why are people so damn impatient? The phone just came out. If you had a history with Motorola phones then you know they will end up being rooted. I always root my phones but can wait until a root comes out for it. Anyway have fun downgrading because of something so menial.
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well I also need WIFI tether now for work and don't feel like spending the extra $$$... I can always buy another one anyway....

zn706 said:
well I also need WIFI tether now for work and don't feel like spending the extra $$$... I can always buy another one anyway....
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You'll spend $600 on a phone, but won't add wi-fi tether to your account without cheating the system and stealing it through root?
You the man, dawg.

You pay full price? Wow... I just really think that the Moto series is going to get left behind... But that's my opinion, and they're like assholes, everyone has one...

Best phone out there, I can't believe your impatience is getting you such a huge downgrade.

I have the m8 now and it's one of the biggest regrets I've ever made. The build is beautiful, but thats where it ends. Camera is terrible, battery life is terrible, performance has the typical htc 6 month frame and then you have to format and start fresh again. I'd def reconsider that choice, next week I'll be getting the turbo. My wife got hers about a week ago and I cannot say how jealous I am.

tnt2sniper said:
I have the m8 now and it's one of the biggest regrets I've ever made. The build is beautiful, but thats where it ends. Camera is terrible, battery life is terrible, performance has the typical htc 6 month frame and then you have to format and start fresh again. I'd def reconsider that choice, next week I'll be getting the turbo. My wife got hers about a week ago and I cannot say how jealous I am.
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Wow really? I also have the M8 and I easily get a day on a full charge, its always siper smooth, even when I have power saver on. I use Bluetooth to stream all my music. I can agree with you on the camera being mediocre, but it has otherwise been one of the greatest phone experiences I've had yet.
I'll also just say there are too many people here expecting too much and cry when it isn't instantly given to them. Don't buy a phone expecting someone to root it. Accept it for what it is and remember root is a bonus.

Im being patient myself but, hot damn, I want voice and data simultaneously. f root, give me that and ill be content for a bit.

xkape said:
Im being patient myself but, hot damn, I want voice and data simultaneously. f root, give me that and ill be content for a bit.
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Aren't they going to release it next month for the Turbo?
I agree some people expect to much from a phone. There will always be a downside to each smart phone. I to was thinking about returning my Turbo and maybe get the z3 or Note 4. But I've always loved Motorola phones. Great build, voice, reception, battery. I've owned a note series before but I've always had problems with either the wifi or the GPS not locking on.
This is by far the best phone I've owned. Love it. I'm just glad I never returned it this past Friday.
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MYxdaUSERNAME said:
You'll spend $600 on a phone, but won't add wi-fi tether to your account without cheating the system and stealing it through root?
You the man, dawg.
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To be fair , He's cheating a broken system where it should be illegal for a carrier to ask you to pay extra to unlock a function of the data you already pay for.
It will be illegal for them to charge for tether if the net neutrality push goes anywhere, or if the FCC can begin to classify this stuff under title 2.

tomkins0752 said:
Wow really? I also have the M8 and I easily get a day on a full charge, its always siper smooth, even when I have power saver on. I use Bluetooth to stream all my music. I can agree with you on the camera being mediocre, but it has otherwise been one of the greatest phone experiences I've had yet.
I'll also just say there are too many people here expecting too much and cry when it isn't instantly given to them. Don't buy a phone expecting someone to root it. Accept it for what it is and remember root is a bonus.
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Ya I know it sounds crazy, but I'm just not a fan. I've had htc devices that go back to the Titan, diamond, hero, evo, thunderbolt, rezound, etc,. This phone is the biggest let down and it may just be me on this, but man its just too finicky. It absolutely offers no protection as well.. if this thing touches water, your done. I think sense ui has major issues and starts to get corrupt after a period of time. I had this same issue with all of my htc devices. Go back to my Samsung nexus, g2 or even my note 3 and i've never experienced this.

Day 2 with the M8. No regrets so far. It's lighter, good battery life, root, tether,custom Rom, xposed , xprivacy. No regrets.

mvp4him3 said:
Why are people so damn impatient? The phone just came out. If you had a history with Motorola phones then you know they will end up being rooted. I always root my phones but can wait until a root comes out for it. Anyway have fun downgrading because of something so menial.
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Heh, sending from my unrootable droid maxx.
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zn706 said:
Day 2 with the M8. No regrets so far. It's lighter, good battery life, root, tether,custom Rom, xposed , xprivacy. No regrets.
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Damn, I would have sold you mine M8 cheap. I still have both the the M8 is going to my son. No way I would pick it over the turbo. Different strokes for different folks as they say.
Best of luck with the M8. There's some good folks in those forums as well. Now go find them and say hello for me [emoji1]

@work said:
Heh, sending from my unrootable droid maxx.
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Droid Maxx bootloader can be Unlocked via the Chinese middle man!

Gundabolu SC said:
Droid Maxx bootloader can be Unlocked via the Chinese middle man!
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Keep in mind that
A) he disappeared
B) it only worked for 2014 devices(manufactured) the last time he was around.
C) it wasn't a hack, someone stole something from moto.
There is no reason to believe that will happen again
Also sunshine only works on specific versions of the OS and won't work on the latest versions. The next advertised sunshine update does not include support for the latest firmware. As of the last time I checked. Good luck with root in lollipop. .
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@work said:
Keep in mind that
A) he disappeared
B) it only worked for 2014 devices(manufactured) the last time he was around.
C) it wasn't a hack, someone stole something from moto.
There is no reason to believe that will happen again
Also sunshine only works on specific versions of the OS and won't work on the latest versions. The next advertised sunshine update does not include support for the latest firmware. As of the last time I checked. Good luck with root in lollipop. .
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Yeah... Sorry I knew all of the points u made... Sorry for being ignorant!
By the way I own a Moto Maxx... So YEAH I will have a rooted Lollipop!

Poll! Will VZW Note 4 Retail Ever See ROOT

So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?

freddy0872 said:
So this is just a simple Poll Thread. Just wondering if we think the VZW Note 4 will ever see some kind of unlock!
Now a midst allot of the talk going around some say we may HAVE TO have an unlocked bootloader to even consider root.
So this Poll is going to be asking the following question? It is not more so about will we get Unlocked, or will we get root.
The question is:
Do you think we will see any type of unlocking/rooting method for the Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Retail?
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I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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mmw68666 said:
I say no but with the note 4 you don't need it but TBU and Adway would be nice
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Go ahead and put your vote in the top of the OP sir! Id like to see what everyone has to think about this topic!
Granted im very inclined to agree with you on your answer. I dont think its necessary. More or less a habit just to do it and were spoiled with the features! But yes some of the perks would definitely be nice!

I say no. I think every Samsung phone from here on out will be locked down tight on Att and Verizon. Sprint will have root and that will be the only route for rooting in the near future.

I HIGHLY disagree... this device will definitely see root. And although it performs great without it, things like write protection completely diminish the joy of having a capable device. We'll see root, maybe not an unlocked bootloader... but there's always safestrap....Samsung's devs are great, buy ours are better... hence the hiring of Steve.

For 1 just because it is hard to root makes it more tempting for someone to cracking the code and for 2 touchwiz sux it lags freezes and remove all that crap that Verizon and samsung put on our phones.

I mean... the Note 3 was the same.. it had a Root. I'm sure something will pop up

prob have root but no unlock bootloader

Looking back at old devices and seeing where we are now. I think the chances of obtaining a root exploit for this device are like 1 in a million. So I'm going with no on both. But that doesn't take away any value of the phone itself, its still the biggest beast around currently. Its also priced the most among online marketplaces next to the iPhone 6.

Highly unlikely. If it does, it will be some new universal root that happens to work on the Verizon version, but nothing Verizon specific.

Maybe if everyone keeps saying no, someone will look at this thread and be like, "can't? I can't? Lemme show these dudes why I am who I am." Lol

This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.

I really hope it will happen. I really have been grinding my teeth using the note 4 without root. I need my per app dpi settings, adaway, and more xposed modules. Honestly I would probably return it if I still could.
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sprintuser1977 said:
This is the only phone I have ever owned where my keeping it Is not based on root.
Of course I want root, and yes I believe it will happen eventually.
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Ditto... love it so far!

Hard to say, but I'm thinking no.

"No" right now and once L is released, helL no. Sorry, but that is what it seems to me.

Results as of right now
Well it seems like the dial is leaning more towards the side of most people thinking we will or most certainly get root.
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Those who think more than likely not or most certainly not.
Ive got high hopes but like i stated im mighty happy with how the device is performing at this point in time. Of course the added benifit of removing junk would be great if anything that and xposed!
Im keeping my Root Alert set to high! LOL
Thanks for voting it up fellas! :good:

i say 100% on KK and on L 75%
i have read a thread just like this on soooo many devices since the OG Droid and the only thing that has been successful since has been locking the bootloader. N4 just needs the right people with it in their hands and that will eventually happen.
L has already gained root access without a modified kernel which you can read about here.
personally i am not moving from the N3 until there is root and at minimum SafeStrap working. i have most of the N4 software features mixed with some L and some S5 stuff with a great theme and some amazing Xposed apps on my N3 that i am not willing to give up. customization from theme to software tweaks is something i highly value.

No root mark my words

What about the KNOX flag? Does it not really matter? I pay 10$ a month for insurace so does the warranty matter that much?

XDA has become useless because without root.

Without root it beats the purpose of checking in every day. I used to check XDA multiple times a day. Now I check it every other day and there's always nothing interesting. If we had ROOT man it'll be different. Miss downloading flashing roms. Waiting for new updates with new features. I miss ROMS but without an unlocked bootloader this phone is F'ed. Locked down till lord knows when. Seriously thinking about buying another galaxy. I sold my note 4. Should of kept it lol
¡what a day, what a LOVELY DAY!!

I feel your frustration, but have to say one thing here. I've been using Android since the G1, I've rooted every device I've owned (too numerous to list) until now. The GS7E is really quite amazing, even without root. I had planned on leaving it stock as long as I could tolerate it anyways, so I was not entirely crushed to learn it was locked down so tightly. I mean, had root been a requirement for me, I'd have gone with a Nexus - where bootloader unlock is a right, not a gift.
I do miss proper hosts based ad blocking, but Samsung/Android Pay make up for the shortcomings of root-free ad blocking. The ability to change dpi without root (although it breaks Android Pay, but a quick reboot sets that right) and the AOSP like appearance of the Good lock screen helps me not miss Xposed. And the fact that things simply work, without the additional burden of wondering if it was something I flashed causing weirdness on my device, means I can spend more time playing with my phone... and less time backing up, flashing, restoring, adb'ing, fastbooting, installing/updating drivers, and debugging.
Would I have it the other way around? Certainly, but either way is a compromise, and there is no going back. So, perhaps it's good (for me) that we don't have root. Or, I might already be missing Samsung/Android Pay, and the stability of the stock rom.

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I feel your frustration, but have to say one thing here. I've been using Android since the G1, I've rooted every device I've owned (too numerous to list) until now. The GS7E is really quite amazing, even without root. I had planned on leaving it stock as long as I could tolerate it anyways, so I was not entirely crushed to learn it was locked down so tightly. I mean, had root been a requirement for me, I'd have gone with a Nexus - where bootloader unlock is a right, not a gift.
I do miss proper hosts based ad blocking, but Samsung/Android Pay make up for the shortcomings of root-free ad blocking. The ability to change dpi without root (although it breaks Android Pay, but a quick reboot sets that right) and the AOSP like appearance of the Good lock screen helps me not miss Xposed. And the fact that things simply work, without the additional burden of wondering if it was something I flashed causing weirdness on my device, means I can spend more time playing with my phone... and less time backing up, flashing, restoring, adb'ing, fastbooting, installing/updating drivers, and debugging.
Would I have it the other way around? Certainly, but either way is a compromise, and there is no going back. So, perhaps it's good (for me) that we don't have root. Or, I might already be missing Samsung/Android Pay, and the stability of the stock rom.
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That's cool bro, but like you I like the s7 edge. But being XDA I miss coming here to look for roms and being exited about getting an update. Yea I can customize it how I want it. Yes there no YouTube adds with RED. but being XDA that's just what I miss lol. Should probably just delete the app. Not like I'm going anywhere with this phone. Still believe rooting isn't a necessity with the galaxy s7 edge. I can't use Samsung pay so I could care less .
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I would like root mainly for adaway. Other than that I don't need to do anything. I honestly don't have time for the flashing game anymore.
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i want root for viper4android and changing mixerpaths file its just not loud or clear enough without those 2 things
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mrro82 said:
I would like root mainly for adaway. Other than that I don't need to do anything. I honestly don't have time for the flashing game anymore.
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Plus one. And for viper4android . Other wise this phone is perfect and I love samsung pay

sonkameja said:
Mods are even more useless letting skinomi threads fly in general discussion area, and deleting comments
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I could not disagree more. Mods are even more important in device forums where there is no active development, as the entire device forum becomes a pissing contest where everyone who doesn't have anything to contribute just argue with each other - making it even harder to find what useful information there is.
I appreciate the work mods do here due to the fact that the mods here are volunteers who don't get paid (with anything but insults from people like you apparently).
So if you are mad at the mods for removing something you posted, perhaps you should read the forum rules to understand why your post was removed. That and take it to PM, instead of *crapping on all mods in a public post.

I upgraded to this from a note 3 and I'm devastated to learn the bootloader is locked. I'm tempted to return the device or sell it after its payed off. We should make a group that shows interest in not locking the bootloader of the Note 6 do when it's released at least there was a movement.
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nano303 said:
Without root it beats the purpose of checking in every day. I used to check XDA multiple times a day. Now I check it every other day and there's always nothing interesting. If we had ROOT man it'll be different. Miss downloading flashing roms. Waiting for new updates with new features. I miss ROMS but without an unlocked bootloader this phone is F'ed. Locked down till lord knows when. Seriously thinking about buying another galaxy. I sold my note 4. Should of kept it lol
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Yep. Getting my s5 back. Im sick of no root. Battery draining. Im sick sick of it
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I think without root I have become a more productive person with life in general

I just want root so I can delete the unwanted apps and for cyanogen roms.
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the reason we don't have root is simple... no one is working on it.
anyone capable of actually doing it has already been hired by the people who don't want you to do it

After using this device for a month or so I really don't care about root. Yes I would like adaway and Viper but all in all I would make the same choice all over again.
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htc 10 all the way, rooted

matteosaeed said:
htc 10 all the way, rooted
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Lol
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matteosaeed said:
htc 10 all the way, rooted
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Screen is too small and the quality is garbage compared to OLED, otherwise I'd agree.

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Is there anyone actively working on root that I can get with? I haven't been in the dev game for a long time, but browsing the web without adaway is getting ridiculous
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Nitemare3219 said:
Screen is too small and the quality is garbage compared to OLED, otherwise I'd agree.
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It is not that small bigger than the s7 that I had. The oled and amoled is great but it feels more fluid on the HTC with this LCD. Rooted and custom ROM, that beats the s7 and edge any day of the week. Battery is going great now. I am at 51 percent with 3 hours sot unplugged since 8 this morning and now it is almost 8.

matteosaeed said:
It is not that small bigger than the s7 that I had. The oled and amoled is great but it feels more fluid on the HTC with this LCD. Rooted and custom ROM, that beats the s7 and edge any day of the week. Battery is going great now. I am at 51 percent with 3 hours sot unplugged since 8 this morning and now it is almost 8.
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Sorry no offense but who cares.
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Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?

Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?

Magic 8-ball says: Ask again later...

I hate these questions. They make me feel more doubtful, lol. Heck, if we knew that everybody would be buying one and waiting in anticipation.
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The million dollar question. I hope it happens but this is the first phone stock I've had that doesn't annoy me. I actually barely notice at all but I love to flash so maybe one day

My phone runs great no issues so it's not a big thing to have it rooted in that aspect, however. I like to keep NANDROID backups in case something happens, and the ability to backup applications the way I want is very important to me. Just using apps to backup everything is one thing, but if something occurs on a system level, you are generally screwed unless you have ROOT to be able to tinker and fix it yourself. I was able to fix countless phones on my own when the stores would want to wipe to factory reset or give me a refurbished. Screw that mess, give me freedom. Besides, it's illegal for them to deny you insurance claims based on ROOT. They legally have to prove that you damaged the phone by modifying the software. Battled and won twice after threats of a lawsuit. I have that part of the consumer rights saved in multiple places, just need to remember where so I can post it.

It all depends on whether or not the bootloader is locked, dm-verity, restrictions, etc. I hope it's not something like the Galaxy S7 with its Qualcomm Secure Boot.

The bootloader isn't even accessible from any user accessable means from what I've encountered, I can't seem to get in, I have "Enable OEM unlock" in settings, but it just seems that fastboot has been entirely stripped from this device... Very weird.

source code for Sprint G6
enzeden said:
Will Sprint LGG6 Ever Obtain Root or Unlocked Bootloader?
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dont know if this could help. i wouldnt know what to look for..
opensource.lge.com/osSch/list?types=ALL&search=LS993

Is this fake?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-install-twrp-recovery-sprint-lg-g6/
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hoonigan43 said:
Is this fake?
https://www.getdroidtips.com/root-install-twrp-recovery-sprint-lg-g6/
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yep

l33tlinuxh4x0r said:
yep
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Figured ?
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I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.

MikeDroid said:
I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.
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Why dont you look for a bootloader exploit or donate your phone to someone who can do it?

Mr nerd said:
Why dont you look for a bootloader exploit or donate your phone to someone who can do it?
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Because I like to go outside every now and then and I need a working phone. Don't care to go back to old Nexus.

MikeDroid said:
I'm guessing no one is even working on root or bootloader unlock. Seriously, disappointing. I just want bloat gone.
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You can still anti bloat through android.. by disabling apps manually. But yeah I feel your pain.. I hate ads, I miss Xposed, I miss TWRP.. My note 5 i still keep around for that reason...
Truth is the LG G6 is a spectacular phone.. But the rooting community is getting smaller and smaller as android allows you to be more customizable and the average device life for people has gone from 2-3 years.. to every year now with leases and trade ins at carriers, and flagship phones coming out every 8-14 months.
WIth the G4 randomly dying, and the G5 having battery issues.. It took LG a while to get it right, and I love this phone more than the s8 and s8+ but LG jumped on the "apple/samsung" bandwagon by locking bootloaders... There are alot more people with Samsungs than LGs right now.. The reason behind all the companies going this route is because of Android Pay and proprietary security by phone manufacturers to push more sales through corporate and enterprise security..
At least LG is over time unlocking some variants ( albeit international) of the G6 its hopeful...
We used to have this luxury with HTC but they are still trying to stay afloat.
Those are just my observations... from working for an indirect dealer and rooting tons of phones for 9+ Years.
We just have to pray for an exploit- somewhere.. someone out there has turned it into an obsession... Lets just hope they emerge ....

chaosrecords said:
You can still anti bloat through android.. by disabling apps manually. But yeah I feel your pain.. I hate ads, I miss Xposed, I miss TWRP.. My note 5 i still keep around for that reason...
Truth is the LG G6 is a spectacular phone.. But the rooting community is getting smaller and smaller as android allows you to be more customizable and the average device life for people has gone from 2-3 years.. to every year now with leases and trade ins at carriers, and flagship phones coming out every 8-14 months.
WIth the G4 randomly dying, and the G5 having battery issues.. It took LG a while to get it right, and I love this phone more than the s8 and s8+ but LG jumped on the "apple/samsung" bandwagon by locking bootloaders... There are alot more people with Samsungs than LGs right now.. The reason behind all the companies going this route is because of Android Pay and proprietary security by phone manufacturers to push more sales through corporate and enterprise security..
At least LG is over time unlocking some variants ( albeit international) of the G6 its hopeful...
We used to have this luxury with HTC but they are still trying to stay afloat.
Those are just my observations... from working for an indirect dealer and rooting tons of phones for 9+ Years.
We just have to pray for an exploit- somewhere.. someone out there has turned it into an obsession... Lets just hope they emerge ....
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Ditto on all that. For ads, I've used the all in one opt out which has eliminated lots of ads. Bloat is irritating, having to reset Google Voice after every update. Xposed was awesome. And I want all the Sprint badging and boot animation gone. Even temp root would make me happy.

Just everybody remember. Do not update. Usually root is achieved on lowest firmwares only in the last few history of lg series

Someone just messaged me this: Maybe some jtag process could work, or test point at qcom mode, dumping boot.img and rooting with magisk