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Screen feedbacks/issues

For the current owners, especially for those who are 'extremely' particular about the screen, do you guys any screen related issues?
I've been with the Galaxy S1 and S8500, both devices used the first generation SAMOLED screen and I never had any screen related issues on both devices but as of late there's been a lot of screen issues ( mostly quality control related ) on the Galaxy S2, Galaxy Note and Galaxy Nexus..
To name a few:
- faint but visible horizontal/vertical lines visible on white/grey images
- green/blue color tint when the device is tilted with in just a few degree's
- uneven screen brightness
- suction cup rings
- blotchy/spotty blacks, you can see darker or brighter spots when the screen is displaying an entire black image - All Tab7.7's have spotty blacks, if anyone has a screen w/o spotty blacks please post it up here, it would help a lot of people.
I owned a Galaxy S2, replaced for a total of 7 times all had different screen related issues and I decided to get a refund for and got the G-Note when It came out, already had 1 screen replacement which resolved the lines issue but other screen related issues took its place, still waiting for the 3rd screen replacement to arrive and also processing a refund if they are not able to fix it.
I plan to make the Tab7.7 as my primary media device ( please spare me the 'get a plasma tv defense' ) and a web browsing device so screen quality is very important to me and most of the time it will be used at 0-10% screen brightness in a dark room (bed room).
Using the Tab in a totally dark room is nothing considered as 'extreme conditions' just because not everyone has the same usage pattern does not translate to 'extreme conditions only' situation.
Id like to ask a very honest and objective feedback from the current owners, I also understand that as of now only a few have this device. Testing in a dark room or with minimal ambient light is preferred as reflections can really skew results.
For anyone also wanting to contribute check the following images on your Tab 7.7 and put it in full screen and see if there are any uneven shades,lines or anything to report about.
This thread will get more exposure as the Tab 7.7 is slowly rolled out around the world. I would like to restate that this is purely an objective thread and not the subjective 'i dont see it in normal use' because not everyone has the same normal usage. Its not to say that all of the Tab7.7 screens are defective but Id like to see how wide spread the issue is based on XDA-Developer members. Again people, objective and not subjective.
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For now it seems that I've gotten enough feedback and expect the very same issues from the Galaxy S2, Need a huge amount of luck for the purchase on my end.
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We need someone who claims that their black screen output is very uniform and does not have any spots, so far nobody has posted yet but we do see claims but these claims are not enough, for the sake of research anyone with an screen with no blotches or spots on black post up.
EDIT3: (Feb 19 2012)
After checking out and screening a total of 15 units from different stores and different dates, I've managed to see only 2 units with 'acceptable' screens. I say acceptable because I am expecting the grey rendering to be as good as on the Galaxy S and S8500. I will be getting one tomorrow but it still has a visible darker top part and lighter bottom when rendering greys.
The very common issue I've seen is a visible thick vertical/horizontal lines on the screen when rendering greys and either a yellowish or greenish discoloration at the bottom and some reddish bleeding on the edges ( mostly top ) I dont think a screen that can render greys on the Tab7.7 exists for now but Im sure it will be possible 6-8 months down the road when screen production gets better.
Different shades of greys are my objective way of testing the screen quality as it easily cuts down the time needed to do so, if a certain screen passes my objective test I goto the subjective test, Load up Thumbkeyboard and use the split lay out with the ICS theme and observe if the shades on the letters from Q to P are the same, some screens that fail the objective test actually produce good results on the subjective test, while others really give out a very obvious discoloration, also all of my tests are done with 0% brightness since thats the brightness i will be using 90% of the time, as the brightness ramps up these discolorations become less obvious.
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Anyone wanting to set here my suite of grey test images
http://www.mediafire.com/?hfxjz8nhymc4h4d
Crucial images are the grey-15 and grey-25, test in a room w/o any directly light or reflections from your face. 0-33% brightness.
EDIT5:
Why grey images, why all this specific settings that require planetary alignment and a virgin sacrifice, read on:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=23529783&postcount=27
EarlZ said:
I've had mine for almost a month, no burn-in issues, Ive been using the Tab almost in portrait mode and stopped using Honeybar just to see how fast the burn-in kicks in, nothing what so ever.
I cant judge if its visible in normal use or not, unlike others I dont assume how a screen issue looks like unless I've seen it or at least pictures of the issue, this has always been the source of many arguments in forums, people just assume all screens are created equally and just because they dont see the exact same issue on their end they actually become more aggressive and hateful and they tend to find the need to keep defending the product. What gives?
Companies always add a cost buffer to cover for returns and that is usually with upto 3 returns, but complacent people just accepting obivous defects are also the cause for this level of quality control since Samsung can now get away with it, especially that some people are false advocating that there are issues thats normal to AMOLED which is incorrect.
I havent used my Tab yet as an ebook reader so Im not exactly sure what they are experiencing but the pictures posted paint a clear picture, It can be annoying at times I suppose and when a product is marketed for its great screen and deep black levels, should anything less be expected? I mean personally coming from a Galaxy S which had none of the screen issues you've mentioned, the Tab7.7's screen should be expected to be better in every single aspect, right?
I've been quite active in this forum and I haven't seen anyone report multiple exchanges yet, I didnt even exchange my Tab yet.
I dont know who you are specifically referring to but I also use greys as my test images, let me give you a little more perspective incase you made a 'selective reading' in regards to this issue.
Grey colors easily allow you to check if your getting a quality screen or not, they can easily show those lines and discolorations with out the need for using multiple test images, they give you objective results especially when your buying the device but its not very conclusive since the store light will show a lot of reflection on the screen.
Testing at 0% brightness in low light environment is also ideal for an objective testing to avoid any reflections that you might see hiding these flaws, but if one exclusively uses the device in a very bright environment then this step can be skipped.
And this is the real world perspective:
This is the original grey image:
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and it should look close to that on the tablet.. For comparison, on my Galaxy S and my former Galaxy S2 can render this color perfectly.
not something like this:
one side is darker, visible lines, dots, circle marks.
You can argue that it only affects greys but it does affect a lot of things you see on the screen and to a certain extent like this:
and when we flip the tab over we get this:
Ignore the moire, notice that one side is darker than the other.
This is how the original frame looks like:
Sure not everyone uses the Tab7.7 as a media player, remember those visible rings and spots above? Check out the attached images.
This is because reviewers hype up the black levels saying its totally black and some internet articles say that AMOLED is in an 'off' state when displaying blacks which gives us the false information and relatively ruining expectations, my first samoled device was the S8500 (Wave) and the blacks were great, no blobs or spots and it had a very faint glow, that was the foundation of my expectation which was further reinforced by the Galaxy S that gave the same results. Others may have started with the Galaxy S2 and the expectations set by reviewers so they ended up returning their devices. On my end I returned it for the yellow tint, which the technician also confirmed that it was very visible and during that time there was nothing they can do.
Sorry for the wall of text but I felt that I should be explain this thoroughly as I am very affected by the screen issues and I am very vocal about it and it did get things done on my end.
TL;DR
Bottom line is, its a $700 device with its primary feature as the screen which is advertized,marketed and specified to have the most vivid, crisp, sharp and clear images. Others are reporting that they dont have any screen issues-what-so ever so why should someone else for settle anything less?
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the 77 has same screen as the note... but it's brightness more even across the screen.. the only problem you will have is it's size... since you're coming from Note.. you might find it hard to justified it's size... like bringing it with u anywhere.? when jogging?
I am now using my old trusty ipad2 ... which I can type like a breeze...
like I said 77 has better amoled screen that early Notes...

sectorlord said:
the 77 has same screen as the note...
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Erm, wrong...
The Note is a PenTile display. The 7.7 is not.
The Note's PenTile arrangement uses 8 subpixels per 1 pixel.
The 7.7's SAMOLED Plus display uses 12 subpixels per 1 pixel.

I won't be brining it around for joggin of that sort, its gonna be my primary media device so it needs defect free from those random manufacturing faults.
It might be too early to ask this as probably the user count in xda is pretty small.

I'm returning one of this beacuse when reading in a dark room there are serval visible rings and spots darker than the rest of the screen.
You are only able to see it when you have a grey or black background and your eyes are adapted to the darkness.

EarlZ said:
For the current owners, especially for those who are 'extremely' particular about the screen, do you guys any screen related issues?
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This device probably isn't for you, yet.
I just got the 7.7 and have issues. The brightness is a bit brighter along one side, and I have the dark spot issue, this time in the form of dark circles, equally spaced (probably from the glass handling suction cups or something)
On the bright side, at least I don't have any bad pixels ;/
BTW a good app for testing is the simple "Advanced task manager" app, it has a dark screen near black and these blotches are visible with this even in a room with some light.

I used my galaxy tab 7.7 for almost a month and i must say , the dark circles are truly annoying especially when you watch movies with dark scenes in a dark room with low brightness.You can hide the dark circles by increasing the brightness but it is a simple waste of battery life and its really bright in dark room. I also noticed screen burn in for the wifi and battery icon, i used my 7.7 on zero brightness since day 1 and screen burn-in still persist after 3 weeks. Good way to see the dark circles is by simply turning off the tablet, the tablet will "glow" with the dark circles after the samsung logo is gone.

[email protected] said:
I'm returning one of this beacuse when reading in a dark room there are serval visible rings and spots darker than the rest of the screen.
You are only able to see it when you have a grey or black background and your eyes are adapted to the darkness.
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My old and new one have these rings. I'm guessing its glue or something bonding the screen to a backplate. Or an imprint of a backplate on the screen.
In any case I think this is not a problem or defect. You really must be in total darkness and viewing a black screen to see it. And even then its very hard to see.

[email protected] said:
I'm returning one of this beacuse when reading in a dark room there are serval visible rings and spots darker than the rest of the screen.
You are only able to see it when you have a grey or black background and your eyes are adapted to the darkness.
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DaveC1964 said:
This device probably isn't for you, yet.
I just got the 7.7 and have issues. The brightness is a bit brighter along one side, and I have the dark spot issue, this time in the form of dark circles, equally spaced (probably from the glass handling suction cups or something)
On the bright side, at least I don't have any bad pixels ;/
BTW a good app for testing is the simple "Advanced task manager" app, it has a dark screen near black and these blotches are visible with this even in a room with some light.
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randomgent said:
I used my galaxy tab 7.7 for almost a month and i must say , the dark circles are truly annoying especially when you watch movies with dark scenes in a dark room with low brightness.You can hide the dark circles by increasing the brightness but it is a simple waste of battery life and its really bright in dark room. I also noticed screen burn in for the wifi and battery icon, i used my 7.7 on zero brightness since day 1 and screen burn-in still persist after 3 weeks. Good way to see the dark circles is by simply turning off the tablet, the tablet will "glow" with the dark circles after the samsung logo is gone.
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Thanks for the heads up, It would seem that the darker spots are quite obvious since the screen is bigger, I also had those spots on some of my Galaxy S2 replacements and I found it very unacceptable and the same with my Note.
When I was testing at the store which had the usual store lighting one unit had several visible lines in greys while the other one only had 3 lines just in the middle.
For the uneven brightness on the screen, Im pretty sensitive to that.. when I saw the HC task bar in landscape mode I immediately noticed a difference in brightness but only 1 of the 2 exhibited the issue.
The screen burn-in is a concern as Im getting the same feedback from friends who bought the unit just last week!
I understand that not all screens have this issue but the chances of getting an out of spec screen might be pretty high, wish they brought back the same quality control when the Galaxy S initially came out, which had none of these issues what so ever.
BTW a good app for testing is the simple "Advanced task manager" app, it has a dark screen near black and these blotches are visible with this even in a room with some light.
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Do you mean advanced task killer?
reiconol said:
My old and new one have these rings. I'm guessing its glue or something bonding the screen to a backplate. Or an imprint of a backplate on the screen.
In any case I think this is not a problem or defect. You really must be in total darkness and viewing a black screen to see it. And even then its very hard to see.
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It is a defect and a very bad one, also the visibility on this is not the same on all units. I have a suction up ring on my Galaxy Note which is visible at the 'service center lighting conditions' which the tech also saw the rings. Several pictures of this issue also posted on the various Galaxy S2 forums here in XDA under a well lit condition.
DaveC1964 said:
This device probably isn't for you, yet.
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Seems like it until screen yields improve or I get a chance to get one w/o any of these out of spec issues.

No screen is perfect, not even the ipad screen.
Ihave a galaxy s2 and rememeber hearing all the burn in worries last year. Almost a year later now and i dont have any burn in.
The only issue ive noticed is that some pixels on oled can have a slightly differrent brightness than others due to the nature of oled. Yes my s2 has a tiny amount of pixels like that,
But you have to look at it at the wrong angle with the wrong amount of ambient light with the wrong colour on the screen to notice it.
Yes a larger screen is likely to have more issues but if it was an ips screen then we would no doubt all complain about backlight bleed.
My advice is stop looking for problems with it and enjoy your tablet otherwise you will never be happy with it !
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crunchie-uk said:
No screen is perfect, not even the ipad screen.
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True no screen is perfect, what I am looking for is a quality screen that is with in specification and Im more than certain there are batches of screens that will meet these requirements.
crunchie-uk said:
Ihave a galaxy s2 and rememeber hearing all the burn in worries last year. Almost a year later now and i dont have any burn in.
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Like what you said, no perfect screen but there are some screens that are made better, A year of usage with no burn-in is fantastic! Some are getting it as early 30days from purchase.
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The only issue ive noticed is that some pixels on oled can have a slightly differrent brightness than others due to the nature of oled. Yes my s2 has a tiny amount of pixels like that,
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Yes to certain degree there are but they should not be noticeable to the naked eye, if its noticeable then its purely a quality control issue.
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But you have to look at it at the wrong angle with the wrong amount of ambient light with the wrong colour on the screen to notice it.
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Well that depends on the usage, Im not pushing my own usage to anyone as I believe not everyone watches movies or browses the web on the tab7.7 with close to 0% brightness and in total darkness. My usage revolves on that so there are no special conditions on my end. I hope this is understandable.
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Yes a larger screen is likely to have more issues but it was an ips screen then we woukd no doubt all complsin abiut backlight bleed.
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Yes backlight bleeding, but thank god both of the ipad2's here dont have any hint of backlight bleeding.
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My advice is stop looking for problems with it and enjoy your tablet otherwise you will never be happy with it !
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I do not look for these issues intentionally and I see them with my normal usage, thats why I intend to research first before taking the plunge. But I understand I might have a higher standards that others but thats just me, I want to get the most of my purchase or not purchase at all.
Long story short, all the screen issues I've found on my Galaxy S2 was due to normal usage including the yellow tinting and darker spots which annoyed the heck out of me considering the cost of the device. On the Galaxy Note I've read about the all the screen related issues even on the video issue and still said to my self 'these things should not be noticeable in normal usage' but i was wrong. So this time Im taking it slowly but I already know what to expect. But I do understand what you are trying to say.
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I dont want anyone to mistake this as a witch hunt, I just want to know what to expect, acceptance is easier when expectations are set.

Yes, there will never be 100% perfect screens. We'd all be constantly returning devices and not actually using them because of some "defect".
I've had my S2 since it first came out in May 2011. No problems with burn-in or colour shifts. I don't expect my 7.7 to have problems either. I'm not concerned that some "defect" will manifest itself under some extreme "only if I go looking " condition.
I'm enjoying using my S2, 7.7, and Transformer for what they are - mobile devices that provide communications, entertainment, and information.

Agreed I can also accept defects as long as I dont see them with my usage. Example between my SGS2 vs Galaxy Note which shared a common issue on the darker spots but it was more obvious on the SGS2 since it was a horrible pattern while on the Galaxy Note its tiny and multiple spots.
Every defect is different and we should not all assume that they are all acceptable to everyone.

reiconol said:
I'm not concerned that some "defect" will manifest itself under some extreme "only if I go looking " condition.QUOTE]
May be for you it's an extreme situation, but in my case, I bought this tablet for reading ebooks at bed (among other things) and I use white text over black background, so I am in that "extreme situation" on a daily basis.
I also have a Galaxy Nexus and that screen also have one line and some dots, but since my usage pattern is not the same it don't bothers because I really dont see it. But in the case of the tablet, I had to convince myself that I had paid a big amount of money to receive a screen with what for me is a defect.
I was the owner of a Huawei Ideos S7-105 (I now miss it) and appart from the battery and several other small annoyances I was pretty happy with it, I paid 150€ for it so I got what I paid for, but the 7.7 costs 450€ so my level of exigence is higher.
Sad thing abot all of this is that the other tablet that could be an option (Xoom 2 8.2) seems to bee plently of issues as well.
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[email protected] said:
May be for you it's an extreme situation, but in my case, I bought this tablet for reading ebooks at bed (among other things) and I use white text over black background, so I am in that "extreme situation" on a daily basis.
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This is always the case, people who dont have the same usage pattern nor with the same issue will never understand. But its been my understanding that this is already 'common' (but not normal) among amongst the hd samoled and samoled plus.
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Sad thing abot all of this is that the other tablet that could be an option (Xoom 2 8.2) seems to bee plently of issues as well.
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Yes the other alternatives that I've been looking are also riddled with issues, come to think of it only samsung has the least issues based on my research.

I've seen the concerns on other AMOLED devices Earlz mentions as well.
It's not a deal beaker but you may want to keep a LCD device around for reading at night.
No use exchanging numerous times hoping for a perfect screen.
Right now while AMOLED is a very dramatic screen tech
but it's not at its best with low brightness levels,
and certain test patterns / images reveal other side effects .
For reading in the dark a screen like the iPad 2's IPS LCD is probably a better choice.
It offers a very low brightness level with consistent results.
I think the key is to use AMOLED devices where they perform best,
at higher brightness levels during the day.
In that scenario if you hand a iPad 2 and AMOLED device
to the average person they will be floored with the AMOLED screen.

I don't have any issue on low brightness level.
I always operate my 7.7 at ~0-20% brightness.

Did anyone test the screen using the screen test apps? I tested mine and I have yellowish patch at the bottom part of the screen. It's only visible in dim grey. Luckily there is no dead pixel but my screen start to squeak a little when press at the bottom corner. The quality control is really bad. I'm waiting for a engineering revision before going for warranty claim. I must say I'm disappointed.
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earthman5678 said:
Did anyone test the screen using the screen test apps? I tested mine and I have yellowish patch at the bottom part of the screen. It's only visible in dim grey. Luckily there is no dead pixel but my screen start to squeak a little when press at the bottom corner. The quality control is really bad. I'm waiting for a engineering revision before going for warranty claim. I must say I'm disappointed.
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There's been a few reports from here and another forum that the screen seems to squeak or dislodge a bit on the bottom corner.

@SonicTab:
I went for an amoled screen beause it's suposed that when screen is black pixels are off and there should be no light emiting so in my case, when reading in the dark I should only see the text, and not a bluish black background as every other LCD based screen
@GOF007:
You are either lucky or do not use the tablet in the same conditions as I do. Did you test it viewing one of the pictures in the first post in a dark room?
I really hope my case where just bad luck and be given another tablet whitout those screen issues, or at least with something less annoying.

[Q] Poor screen uniformity (+yellow tint) - brightness and colour - Feedback Please!

So the Nexus 4’s potentially quality screen has crappy screen issues. There. I said it.
What I mean is that it’s a GREAT screen in some ways (resolution mainly) but it’s let down by what seems to be noticeably poor quality/manufacturing.
Why do I say this? Well, it’s been my experience that the Nexus 4 (in general) has a chronic problem with significantly poor screen uniformity for both colour and brightness. I ordered my first phone on the 13th December 2012 and as soon as it arrived I was pretty excited at finally getting a new phone (upgrading from Galaxy S1 the N4 is a beautiful beast).
When I booted it up and started using it I immediately got a sinking feeling as I realised that the bottom third of the phone had a slight but easily noticeable yellow gradient tint to it along with the left edge and the right edge was grey/dingy about a half a centimetre in. The left side and bottom third were also noticeably brighter than the right side of the phone. I’ve illustrated this in the attached pic. It’s all fairly subtle – but it’s definitely there and is easy to see.
Since I use (like most people I guess) quite a few apps that have white or solid colour backgrounds (gmail, currents, google books, email, messaging, chrome etc) – this lack of uniformity really made things look crappy in a not spectacular but just “sub-par” way unless I was viewing something which was a picture or video or filled the screen where it wasn’t noticeable.
So I called Google Play and told them about the problem and they arranged for a return.
When I got my replacement I booted it up and immediately, even before getting past the X logo animation noticed a big spot of light bleed at the top right. *Very* easy to see and my heart sank.
There on in I opened up the Mail app and closed the keyboard so I got a nice, mainly white screen. Again I noticed the same issue with the yellowing tint to the bottom and left but this time it was *more* noticeable.
To cut this long story short I’ve now sent back 3 devices for this issue, about to send back my 4th and my 5th should arrive tomorrow. I’m not holding out much hope.
I’ve seen this exact same issue on about 4 other Nexus 4’s in shops in the UK (Carphone Warehouse, O2) and while there looked at the HTC One X, iPhone 5 and the new Lumia phones from Nokia running Windows Phone 8. Those phones in particular (with LCD screen tech too) didn’t have these issues *at all* as far as I could tell. In fact the HTC One X screen looked to me to be flawless, as did the Lumia 820 and 920. If I could put the screen from the One X into the N4, I would. Sadly, not gonna happen. Sadly I don’t want the One X but do want an N4. P.S. I know LG manufacture their own displays.
Now I’m NOT claiming to speak for ALL N4’s (why I’ve started this thread) but I do believe that it cannot be a coincidence that ALL the N4’s *except one* showed this issue. I believe that LG simply manufacture the screens in such a way that they invariably have these tinting and brightness uniformity inconsistencies and that because most people don’t care, they don’t care.
********What I’d like is to ask if people with an N4 they’re happy with could do the following and provide the following info:
*Open the Mail app and close the keyboard (press down arrow at bottom). Look at the white of the screen and see if there is any edge or part of the screen that is noticeably *brighter* or *more yellow*. Are there any areas of the screen that are noticeably darker or duller? Do this for different brightnesses (low and fairly high). What do you see? Any yellow tint? Any inconsistency in brightness? All ok? Perfectly even?********
TL;DR: I’ve had 4 Nexus 4’s from Google Play all with the same yellow tint and brightness uniformity issues. Very noticeable. Not acceptable to me for a device that displays a lot of white “pages” and solid colours. Other phones (that I don’t want) do not have this issue (annoying). Please can you give feedback from your phone.
PLEASE NOTE:
Other threads discussing the “yellow tint” issue invariably attract trolls in their varying forms.
DO NOT reply to this thread if you simply want to say any of the following:
1) I don’t see a problem with mine therefore I don’t understand what you’re talking about.
2) I don’t see a problem with mine therefore you’re imagining a problem with yours.
3) I don’t see a problem with mine therefore you’re expecting a “perfect” screen and they don’t exist.
4) There are more important things in life to worry about. (A: I’m not “worried”, screen uniformity is important to me, get over it.)
5) I see a slight yellowing but I don’t care therefore you shouldn’t care. There are more important things in life to worry about.) [see above]
The attached illustration is slightly "exaggerated" to make sure the effect is reproduced for all screens. Not by all that much though.
UPDATE: 31/01/2013: Well I've received *another* N4 replacement today and lo and behold the exact *same issue*. With this one I'm going to wait it out at least a week and see if it improves. I *really* want an N4 as in every other way it's truly a great piece of tech. Pray for me guys!

Re: [Q] General poor screen uniformity - brightness and colour - Feedback Please!
My screen has no discolorations or brightness unevenness that I can see.
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I've had tint issues with all three handsets. First two it didn't disappear after use. This third handset SEEMS to have gotten a little better after a week.
All three had light bleed. First one was least noticeable, last two including the current have two blobs of light bleed in the exact same places along the top of the LCD.
It's almost as if something during manufacturing (screw tightness?) has caused it on both handsets. They are both 212K and revision 11.
It's annoying me and I may do one final RMA once I see what this new wave of devices brings.

mine's fine.

I did what you asked, OP and I'm not seeing and unevenness, yellow tint, or brightness issues (aside from auto-brightness being stupidly low).
The only issue I have with my screen is poor colors. I have a One X and an iPhone 5 that I sometimes compare with my N4's screen and it's shockingly apparent that the N4's screen has colors that just aren't worthy of a top-tier device. The resolution is nice and all, but I like it when the colors are nice and accurate. It's most easy to tell when comparing images of people and looking at their skin. Now I'm no anthropologist, but I have a pretty solid grasp of what skin looks like. The One X is probably the best at representing things the way they look IRL, followed by the iPhone 5. I don't know if it's just my N4 or other people have the same issue. I've tried using apps to adjust the color (FauxClock with Faux's kernel, to be specific), but nothing makes it look quite as nice as my other phones.
I guess you never asked about the second part, but there it is.

I had that issue when I received my device, Used kernel setting to rectify the problem but after 4-5 days of use it gone away. Now device is perfect.
I recommend you to stay with it for 3-4 days before returning it and check.

blackplague1347 said:
I did what you asked, OP and I'm not seeing and unevenness, yellow tint, or brightness issues (aside from auto-brightness being stupidly low).
The only issue I have with my screen is poor colors. I have a One X and an iPhone 5 that I sometimes compare with my N4's screen and it's shockingly apparent that the N4's screen has colors that just aren't worthy of a top-tier device. The resolution is nice and all, but I like it when the colors are nice and accurate. It's most easy to tell when comparing images of people and looking at their skin. Now I'm no anthropologist, but I have a pretty solid grasp of what skin looks like. The One X is probably the best at representing things the way they look IRL, followed by the iPhone 5. I don't know if it's just my N4 or other people have the same issue. I've tried using apps to adjust the color (FauxClock with Faux's kernel, to be specific), but nothing makes it look quite as nice as my other phones.
I guess you never asked about the second part, but there it is.
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Thanks for the feedback - very helpful. I got *another* one through today and it seems "better" by a bit than the previous one at least. I think I'll see how it goes. Good to know that it's not only me sho can see the difference.
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I've had tint issues with all three handsets. First two it didn't disappear after use. This third handset SEEMS to have gotten a little better after a week.
All three had light bleed. First one was least noticeable, last two including the current have two blobs of light bleed in the exact same places along the top of the LCD.
It's almost as if something during manufacturing (screw tightness?) has caused it on both handsets. They are both 212K and revision 11.
It's annoying me and I may do one final RMA once I see what this new wave of devices brings.
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All the phones I've had have been 301K and they've all had the same issue with yellow tint/backlight inconsistency in a very similar way. I'll have sent back 4 N4's if I decide to keep the current one! I think you're probably right about the screw tightness or some such other minor thing during manufacturing. It's not like a viewing angle problem. It does look like something to do with assembly in particular. Please do let me/us know how you get on and how things work out.
ksavai said:
I had that issue when I received my device, Used kernel setting to rectify the problem but after 4-5 days of use it gone away. Now device is perfect.
I recommend you to stay with it for 3-4 days before returning it and check.
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I used FauxClock on my previous device (sat here waiting to go back) and it did seem to improve the situation slightly - but then since the screen isn't uniform, it reduced the yellow where it was yellow but then made it too "blue" on the rest of the screen. I really hope that this yellow tint is a "glue" issue or something that will even out through repeated use due to heating/cooling - i.e. expanding and contracting which somehow settles things down. I'll keep this one about a week and see what happens. Fingers crossed!
Thanks for your feedback guys!

Re: [Q] General poor screen uniformity - brightness and colour - Feedback Please!
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5) I see a slight yellowing but I don’t care therefore you shouldn’t care. There are more important things in life to worry about.) [see above]
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^ this is pretty much all I can say.
Every nexus 4 phone I handled had a slightly yellower screen at the bottom. For me its barely noticeable, not as yellow as it is in your illustration.
They all seem to have that same issue, along with light bleeding across the top edge.
You can keep RMAing if you're not tired of that .. But you will not receive a fully uniform no matter what.
If screen uniformity is important for you get one of the above phones you mentioned.
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beegbear said:
^ this is pretty much all I can say.
Every nexus 4 phone I handled had a slightly yellower screen at the bottom. For me its barely noticeable, not as yellow as it is in your illustration.
They all seem to have that same issue, along with light bleeding across the top edge.
You can keep RMAing if you're not tired of that .. But you will not receive a fully uniform no matter what.
If screen uniformity is important for you get one of the above phones you mentioned.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda
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Thanks for the info, that's interesting to know. Out of interest, how many have you handled? Going by some comments on XDA and around the web regarding this issue, you'd think that the yellow tint was only on a handful of handsets and an isolated quirk, not as I suspect and you seem to suggest, a common trait of the N4.

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Thanks for the info, that's interesting to know. Out of interest, how many have you handled? Going by some comments on XDA and around the web regarding this issue, you'd think that the yellow tint was only on a handful of handsets and an isolated quirk, not as I suspect and you seem to suggest, a common trait of the N4.
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Well,
I ordered three of them, all screens looked identical with the exact same issues: some yellowing at the bottom with a light bleed over the top edge (especially top right corner). I had to RMA 2 out of the 3 due to severe screen issues (screen flickering and dead pixels). Received 2 new units, screens have the exact same issue. I have 2 friends with N4s and their screens are like that too. It's almost not noticeable.

beegbear said:
Well,
I ordered three of them, all screens looked identical with the exact same issues: some yellowing at the bottom with a light bleed over the top edge (especially top right corner). I had to RMA 2 out of the 3 due to severe screen issues (screen flickering and dead pixels). Received 2 new units, screens have the exact same issue. I have 2 friends with N4s and their screens are like that too. It's almost not noticeable.
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Does the light bleed appear like small blobs from the top edge?
My worst is the top left, about an inch in. Then there's another smaller blob nearer the right hand side. Little bit leakage top right and top left, but its worst along the actual taskbar.
I will take a picture tomorrow.
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My first nexus 4 (rev 10) has perfect whites except the bottom of the screen would turn yellow after warming. All of the 4 RMA devices I've recieved (rev 11) don't have this issue EXCEPT all the rev 11s are calibrated horribly leading to the entire screen being yellower than my rev 10 unit. The screens are uniform, however, I just wish they calibrated the phones like they did with the rev 10.
The new rev 11s have a calibration problem while my rev 10 has a glue problem.
The new rev 11s also have a dimmer screen than my rev 10. I kinda just want them to send a perfect rev 10 to me.

Interesting because calibration issues affect the whole screen. If any part of the screen isn't the same "tint" as another part and its noticeable then this isn't something that can be fixed with calibration. Calibration can only save a uniformly "yellow" or "blue" tinted screen. To that end I wish mine was uniformly yellow. Mine is a rev 11 and I'm on my second day with it and hoping the bottom and left yellow tint fades soon and that it's just glue. I've tried Fauxclock and applying various screen tweaks with a previous similar phone and it helped somewhat but there's nothing can be done about unevenness in the tint really unless its glue and it dries.
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Screen tint and viewing angles questions and opinions please

Ok well I would like to get peoples feedback and opinions on their screens.
My story. Broke my GNote II instead of paying to replace LCD decided to upgrade with my carrier.
First Note 3 I bought was bright with nice whites and great viewing angles. But it has the dreaded pinkinsh purple screen tint issue in the lower 3rd of the screen more so on the right side. This is subtle and is less evident in brighter conditions or higher screen brightness. At low brightness and in dark environments it is particularly visible on white and grey backgrounds. Went to store to exchange and they refused given they could not see the defect. I came online here searched around and it seems this has been an issue on the GS4 and people have mentioned it on the new Note 3.
Convinced my carrier to send me a replacement and I will return the original to them. Well got the replacement 3-4 days ago. The unit seems quite different. First off the screen is overall a bit more yellow at face on viewing angles and perhaps a hair less bright at similar settings though hard to tell. The bottom is not color shifted puple. The screen color is more homogenous. However the viewing angles are completely different. Here while the brightness stays goo dlike the first when angling the screen, the colors shift to a more aqua color with minor angle variation. (guessing 20-30*) whereas the original unit has virtually no color shift at almost 90*.
I probably have to send back a unit in the coming day or 2 and make a final decision. In theory I could try to ask for a third model, however it was with a lot of difficulty and threats to leave my carrier that they relented in the first replacement. SO I likely will have to stick with one of these or return both and use my somewhat broken note 2 and wait for something else.
I am wondering if any of you out here have similar pink/purple tint issues at one end of your screen. Or if you have issues with significant white color shift when angling your screen more than 30* in either portrait or landscape. Also if good or bad can you check build date on your phone (should be under battery). FInally did you or will you replace it? Was replacement better or worse?
Also if in my shoes would you go for the better looking screen with the pink issue or the more consistent looking screen that is a bit more blue yellow.
Thanks!

lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...

TML1504 said:
lots of postings about this, i even made a thread regarding this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2463786
some people call it nitpicking, but as you can see i'm feeling with you...
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I know you did and I posted some long posts there and the thread kind of died.
I have some specific questions here as well as asking what I should do in my case.
I had a note 2 and remember there being perseus kernel and with STweaks one could shift color etc and make it how you like. I am thinking going with the more uniform color model as I am sure the slight yellow tint can be corrected and the blue tint on viewing angles is no worse than my note 2 looking back so I will get used to it I imagine. That said the first screen really has great screen but the purplish pink right bottom corner bugs me on white and grey screens ( not noticeable on high brightness though) and often reading on websites etc indoors I notice it enough that it bugs me.....

So for anyone who cares here is an update on my plan. The more uniform note 3 is more yellow/green tinted whites compared to the other one that is whiter/redder. That said if I use one of these screen filter style apps that exist in the play store, I can modify the overall screen into however I like.
Downside is that it means a persistently running app to do it with whatever effect on screen longevity and battery.
Now on my Note 2 which is also yellower, I was running perseus kernel and the s tweaks app and was able at the kernel level to modify the color to get better whites. I imagine it is only a matter of time before someone can do that for our note 3. I can handle the viewing angle color shift as the device is in my hand and not on a table when i use it where it might be off angle viewing by a large amount. And even then, the tinting of white has a bluish shift and now worse than a yellowing shift my wifes iphone has off angle or my note 2 did.
Would love tohear from others and what their screens are like and or developers who might have the means of modifying color at kernel level the way Andreilux did on the note 2

I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.

nabilsweet007 said:
I checked almost 10 note 3s bkack n white as well..and found only 1 set.it has no yellow tint and no gray lining.
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You checked 13 notes and 12 of them were either yellow tint or what gray lining issue?
How did you manage to check so many.
Can you check the following. Look at the phone screen face on the tilt either up down or side to side about 30 degrees and tell me if the white on the screen turns bluish.
One of my phones does this and has the yellower whites. The other does not and has better whites but has some purplish discoloration in the lower right part of the phone.

Any one here try a new kernel from the android development sections?
Some of them talk about being able to modify screen color. Am wondering if this can be a fix for my issues.

Galaxy S7 Edge vs S7: Display Issues

At the moment, I have both devices. Having used the S7 Edge since the release, yesterday I switched to the S7. In shifting back to the S7 Edge just now, I noticed the two device's displays are quite different.
The S7 clearly has more saturated colors and looks far brighter. The S7 Edge, in comparison, looks slightly more dull when side by side.
For reference, I tested both devices in the same conditions. That is to say the S7 and S7 Edge with automatic brightness disabled and pushed up to maximum manual brightness. Also I tested both in a darker room. For reference both were set to AMOLED Cinema.
Unfortunately even when the automatic brightness is turned back on, it's clear the S7 still looks more vibrant.
Can anyone explain what's going on here? Is it simply that the Edge looks like it has a lesser screen because of the larger size and thereby lower pixel density. Or is it something about the panels themselves and thus the S7 that I have now just happened to get a better panel than the Edge.
Any thoughts or answers would be appreciated.

Displaymate tested them and stated that they are practically identical in terms of performance: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm. Any chance you can test out against another Edge?
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Artood2s said:
Displaymate tested them and stated that they are practically identical in terms of performance: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S7_ShootOut_1.htm. Any chance you can test out against another Edge?
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Actually no, unfortunately. Neither device has been released in Japan yet. Both of the ones I have are imported.

The thing is lot more complicated...
Each S7 Edge has different display quality! When you put 2 S7 Edge Side by Side and compare, you will see that the displays have different tint (mostly yellow), and more worse: a lot of the displays are not homogeneous. that means that one corner or side is brighter then the rest of the display.
i wrote a few threads regarding this, i also sent a message to displaymate (because they test "cherry-picked" devices, and do not mention this), see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
basically i do think that the s7 screen is better, due to the Edge screen is P-AMOLED to be flexible! but the differences between otherwise identical devices are really huge!
i ordered my 5th device today, because all of them had flaws:
1st: display not good compared to second device
2nd: the device i use now. very good viewing angles and no tint, BUT: left side of display is darker then right side
3rd: display strong yellow tint
4th: display almost good, slight yellow tint. would take this, BUT: front cam takes blurry pictures compared to other devices...
5th: ordered today!
you may think i'm a hypocrite or have OCD, but it makes me mad that a 800EUR device has such flaws!!!

The s7 has more PPI due to smaller screen than edge

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i ordered my 5th device today, because all of them had flaws:
1st: display not good compared to second device
2nd: the device i use now. very good viewing angles and no tint, BUT: left side of display is darker then right side
3rd: display strong yellow tint
4th: display almost good, slight yellow tint. would take this, BUT: front cam takes blurry pictures compared to other devices...
5th: ordered today!
you may think i'm a hypocrite or have OCD, but it makes me mad that a 800EUR device has such flaws!!!
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Or, you know, maybe you're looking for a flaw that's not there? It's a well known fact by now that a bend in a display, like the Edge, will have some shifts in brightness, tint and contrast, especially right in that bend! If this is something that annoys you, then I'd recommend you stick with flat panels from now on, because this won't be "fixed" for awhile. It's just the way it is.
Also, you do not have OCD.
"Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) is a common, chronic and long-lasting disorder in which a person has uncontrollable, reoccurring thoughts (obsessions) and behaviors (compulsions) that he or she feels the urge to repeat over and over."
If you turn the screen on and off 30 times before you can make a call, you have OCD. If you have to knock your door five times each time you come home, you have OCD. If you think the smartphone's screen is the wrong hue, that's not OCD, that's just being picky.

TML1504 said:
The thing is lot more complicated...
Each S7 Edge has different display quality! When you put 2 S7 Edge Side by Side and compare, you will see that the displays have different tint (mostly yellow), and more worse: a lot of the displays are not homogeneous. that means that one corner or side is brighter then the rest of the display.
i wrote a few threads regarding this, i also sent a message to displaymate (because they test "cherry-picked" devices, and do not mention this), see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/note4-amoled-screen-quality-t2906365
basically i do think that the s7 screen is better, due to the Edge screen is P-AMOLED to be flexible! but the differences between otherwise identical devices are really huge!
i ordered my 5th device today, because all of them had flaws:
1st: display not good compared to second device
2nd: the device i use now. very good viewing angles and no tint, BUT: left side of display is darker then right side
3rd: display strong yellow tint
4th: display almost good, slight yellow tint. would take this, BUT: front cam takes blurry pictures compared to other devices...
5th: ordered today!
you may think i'm a hypocrite or have OCD, but it makes me mad that a 800EUR device has such flaws!!!
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I think you're being a tad bit OCD. At the end of the day, the S7 might have a slightly better display than the S7E but the screen size and battery size make the S7E better for me personally. If you're looking for a slightly better looking display then maybe you'd be happier with the S7.

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Or, you know, maybe you're looking for a flaw that's not there? It's a well known fact by now that a bend in a display, like the Edge, will have some shifts in brightness, tint and contrast, especially right in that bend! If this is something that annoys you, then I'd recommend you stick with flat panels from now on, because this won't be "fixed" for awhile. It's just the way it is.
Also, you do not have OCD.
"Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) is a common, chronic and long-lasting disorder in which a person has uncontrollable, reoccurring thoughts (obsessions) and behaviors (compulsions) that he or she feels the urge to repeat over and over."
If you turn the screen on and off 30 times before you can make a call, you have OCD. If you have to knock your door five times each time you come home, you have OCD. If you think the smartphone's screen is the wrong hue, that's not OCD, that's just being picky.
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Thx for the medical and display-tech lecture, I'm a university lecturer (engineering and physics) myself!
1) Display quality: You did not read my post, or my linked thread regarding note4! The display of note4 was not curved, and had the same problems as all of samsungs amoled devices before: When you compare 10 devices side by side, you will see that each and every device has different screen tone, uniformity, ... About 2 out of 10 I would consider "good", all other have flaws such as a not uniform brightness distribution (one side of the screen is darker then the other side), or bad viewing angles.
this is NOT a problem which every device has, as I always found one device in the past which was "OK" after exchanging a few times.
same happened last week and today: last week i got a device with a really nice screen, but the front cam took blurry pictures compared to the other S7E devices I have in front of me. this can be easily reproduced, so the cam or lens has a problem the other devices do not have.
the device i got today has the best screen so far (good and even white distribution, good viewing angles), the front cam is ok (a bit less sharp pictures then my reference device, but WAY sharper as from the last weeks device), but there is a scuff on the top metal frame of the display, between the glass and the metal. this is no dust particle, it is a real scuff. :| i will test the rear-cam as well, if it is ok i will stay with this device, as the scuff is not nice, but a minor issue compared to the display faults of the other devices.
also, i showed the different displays of all my S7E devices to friends and colleagues (because they thought i'm crazy because of my exchanges), and all of them see the display faults as well. you need to have devices for comparison, then you will notice how bad some screens are compared to others!
so no need to go for an other device as the S7E, because there ARE good ones existing. but you have to be lucky to get one...
on the OCD: this was half ironic, because i know that OCD really is.

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Thx for the medical and display-tech lecture, I'm a university lecturer (engineering and physics) myself! .
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I did.... not read that Note 4 thread, and I did (clearly not) understand what you said (blame the beers I had), but alright, I do understand what you're saying now, and yeah, there is a slight difference in each panel, and some will get a slightly better panel than the other one. That happens with every screen out there, including LCDs, and viewing angles are also something that gets affected, but I have the impression that this is more of an issue with LCDs.
I would keep swapping it until I got a good panel, so keep doing what you're doing until you get tired or hit the jackpot. The screen is rated as the best smartphone screen ever, so I promise you it should look amazing. The issues you're experiencing is very common though, and must be somewhat expected when we are early adopters. These are typical issues that Samsung will weed out with time.

I saw a strange think on S7E: the 2 sides of the screen have grey shadow area if you looking at it in a dark room with low brightness of course...is that normal?

My is perfect :sly:

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My is perfect :sly:
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I saw other phones and talked to other S7E owners, and they see this grey halo too, when the brightness is low and the environment really dark. Do you think that it is a problem of my screen?

Anyone else have blue color shifting when viewed even a little off-axis?

I received my Axon 7 on Wednesday this week. The AMOLED screen does have very good blacks and looks vibrant, but there is an issue I haven't seen discussed - I'm trying to determine if its just my phone, an issue with AMOLED in general, or perhaps a coating specific to the Axon 7:
When I view the phone directly, whites look correct (warm, natural or cool depending on the Display setting). However, turning the phone even a little off-axis, 10-20° either vertically or horizontally, introduces a very small blue shift - whites especially take on a bluish, sort of washed-out cast. It makes the colors seem much more shallow and unreliable. Can those of you who received your phones go to a WHITE or light-color screen and report if this happens for you too?
This is actually hard to identify, most people will just see something is a little "off" - to my eye, it looked like a very subtle version of a TN-panel color shift. I never have seen this on an IPS panel, though off-angles may get washed out (see Nexus 5/5X) quickly at 50-60°, they always retain their color, even if it lightens. Or, e.g., the Moto X Pure 2K IPS panel that I'm coming from has zero off-angle color shift, no wash-out, and just darkens a little even at 180°. This is my first AMOLED panel, so I'm not sure if it happens often.
If anyone can help me determine whether this is a defect or an expected limitation, that would be great.

I've noticed it on my A7 too. This is my first AMOLED phone, so I too am not sure if this is normal.

I see it also. Thanks a lot now I won't be able to insert it.
For now I will blame the screen protector that came in the screen.

Welcome to Amoled.
The cheap screen protector contributes too,

Thanks, all - I guess it's just the phone then. I actually don't have the screen protector insert applied, so I assume the "screen protector" refers to the factory glass overlay.
Does anyone know if even the new Samsung AMOLEDs exhibit this shift? I think the Axon 7 is technically a Samsung panel, but I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung kept the best AMOLED technology for themselves.
Not sure this is a dealbreaker, but it's definitely a step down from the great color-true viewing angles on the Moto X Pure. (Too bad Moto abandoned the good design the Moto X Pure had for gimmicky snap-on modules this year rather than iterating - it seems like the Axon 7 is otherwise the spiritual successor to the MXP.)

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Thanks, all - I guess it's just the phone then. I actually don't have the screen protector insert applied, so I assume the "screen protector" refers to the factory glass overlay.
Does anyone know if even the new Samsung AMOLEDs exhibit this shift? I think the Axon 7 is technically a Samsung panel, but I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung kept the best AMOLED technology for themselves.
Not sure this is a dealbreaker, but it's definitely a step down from the great color-true viewing angles on the Moto X Pure. (Too bad Moto abandoned the good design the Moto X Pure had for gimmicky snap-on modules this year rather than iterating - it seems like the Axon 7 is otherwise the spiritual successor to the MXP.)
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Of course Samsung keeps the top production panel for themselves... However, it's still a great panel according to colorimetry tests.

Don't notice it on my unit. Jumped from a galaxy S7 edge to the Axon 7 and the display looks exactly the same to me.

This is an area that has driven me a little crazy. I'm used to my Samsung AMOLEDs (Note 4, Note 3, S3, etc.), and they don't have any noticeable "shift", This screen is gorgeous, but it's not a top-tier Samsung panel (obviously). Still, small price to pay for a 400 dollar savings over a Note 7. I am also positive the matte screen protector isn't helping. Once my tempered glass one gets here, I will switch it out and see if it makes a difference.

Which tempered glass screen protector are you getting? I have not read one good review for any of them...yet.

As an update, I went and tried some floor model Galaxy phones at the mall, and they actually had worse off-axis blue shift. Not sure if that's because of the initial screen quality, or that it got worse over time.
Does anyone know of any AMOLED phone (specific model) that does not have any perceptible shift? Does anyone know if the shift gets worse over time?

ScaryBugThing said:
I received my Axon 7 on Wednesday this week. The AMOLED screen does have very good blacks and looks vibrant, but there is an issue I haven't seen discussed - I'm trying to determine if its just my phone, an issue with AMOLED in general, or perhaps a coating specific to the Axon 7:
When I view the phone directly, whites look correct (warm, natural or cool depending on the Display setting). However, turning the phone even a little off-axis, 10-20° either vertically or horizontally, introduces a very small blue shift - whites especially take on a bluish, sort of washed-out cast. It makes the colors seem much more shallow and unreliable. Can those of you who received your phones go to a WHITE or light-color screen and report if this happens for you too?
This is actually hard to identify, most people will just see something is a little "off" - to my eye, it looked like a very subtle version of a TN-panel color shift. I never have seen this on an IPS panel, though off-angles may get washed out (see Nexus 5/5X) quickly at 50-60°, they always retain their color, even if it lightens. Or, e.g., the Moto X Pure 2K IPS panel that I'm coming from has zero off-angle color shift, no wash-out, and just darkens a little even at 180°. This is my first AMOLED panel, so I'm not sure if it happens often.
If anyone can help me determine whether this is a defect or an expected limitation, that would be great.
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I believe others are correct that it is the cheap screen protector. Plastics is refracting the light leaving the phone. Since blue light refracts more (the reason the sky and sea is blue). you will then to get more blue especially at certain angles.
I don't think tempered glass of the same thickness will make a significant difference but i do recommend getting a tempered glass protection because the cheap plastic one will surely be scratched very quickly. There a lot of things that will cause increased color shift, but I am not sure its a huge issue. I don't think accurate color is needed off axis. I could be wrong. I typically only look at the screen off axis when I am trying to take a odd angle picture or too lazy to move when I am in bed.
If any one does find a screen protector that distorts less please let us know.

HonestOtter said:
I believe others are correct that it is the cheap screen protector. Plastics is refracting the light leaving the phone. Since blue light refracts more (the reason the sky and sea is blue). you will then to get more blue especially at certain angles.
I don't think tempered glass of the same thickness will make a significant difference but i do recommend getting a tempered glass protection because the cheap plastic one will surely be scratched very quickly. There a lot of things that will cause increased color shift, but I am not sure its a huge issue. I don't think accurate color is needed off axis. I could be wrong. I typically only look at the screen off axis when I am trying to take a odd angle picture or too lazy to move when I am in bed.
If any one does find a screen protector that distorts less please let us know.
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The first thing I did was remove the screen protector, and I still notice a blue-ish shift at angles. It's minor though, and it's definitely not a dealbreaker.

xtermmin said:
The first thing I did was remove the screen protector, and I still notice a blue-ish shift at angles. It's minor though, and it's definitely not a dealbreaker.
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AMOLED screens are typically like that. When I get on the bus and see people using their galaxies, it always looks cyan from an angle. LCD technology loses contrast at angles, whereas AMOLED has chroma shift.

HonestOtter said:
I believe others are correct that it is the cheap screen protector. Plastics is refracting the light leaving the phone. Since blue light refracts more (the reason the sky and sea is blue). you will then to get more blue especially at certain angles.
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If any one does find a screen protector that distorts less please let us know.
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Just to be clear - the color shift happens without any additional protector. Someone else used the word "protector," but I only have the bare Gorilla Glass in front of the AMOLED screen, no plastic or other layer added.

I see it as well with no screen protector on.

ScaryBugThing said:
Just to be clear - the color shift happens without any additional protector. Someone else used the word "protector," but I only have the bare Gorilla Glass in front of the AMOLED screen, no plastic or other layer added.
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I never understood why phone makers use glass. Just make it plastic with a removable glass screen protector that the user can replace if broken. My GF dropped her phone, The tempered glass protector broke but protected the glass screen.
I do like that the S7 active has a plastic screen just wish all companies did this.

Hello,
I have the same issue with 5 devices I was testing. Every Axon 7 had the issue with the color shift from a red tint, to a blue tint when tilted.
Is there someone without the issue or is it really normal?

Draygon said:
Hello,
I have the same issue with 5 devices I was testing. Every Axon 7 had the issue with the color shift from a red tint, to a blue tint when tilted.
Is there someone without the issue or is it really normal?
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I guess it's the pentile arrangement, since blue subpixels are larger

Let's me play forntnitn