Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
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tempest22 said:
Galaxy S5, SM-G900F (I'm in Europe), Kernel is Jul 3 2014,
I used to have Towelroot. I unrooted, updated to my most current Android version (4.4.2), and since then Towelroot won't work to reroot (it says I'm not supported). Is this so for all others? Is there a way to properly have Towelroot root my device, or is Odin my only option now?
Thanks.
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Use the search engine and you will find answers to those questions
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fffft said:
Asked and answered many times. Read a few posts in the forum, do a search or look in my post history for all of the details.
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sigh...look, I only wish to know whether Towelroot is dead and/or what I can do to make it work on my S5. I can't look through thousands of ultra specific threads. I'm not a phone guy. Someone just give me a straight answer and I'm happy. Please. You guys are the experts, I'm not.
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Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
dladz said:
Christ the writing in this thread, just answer him for crying out loud. @tempest22 you've answered your own question, you updated. Towel root doesn't work on the newest firmware, downgrade using Odin to an earlier build then use towel root, use neatroms method to install a recovery and flash a ROM , you'll need to use mobile Odin to flash the modem and bootloader, or you may even be able to do it via recovery if you're on a high enough ROM version, there are other ways to root and install a custom rom. If its just root access you need then downgrade then use towel root..always use a method which retains your Knox 0x0 status.
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Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
I don't think flashing a ROM via odin makes you lose your warranty, flashing a custom recovery would, bootloader, modem. But not the entire official TAR file. So you won't have anything to worry about. If it were me id do everything I can to retain my warranty, chances are Knox will never be fixed, so if you trip it then it'll stay that way. There is a guide once you're rooted in neat ROMs thread, its straight forward, just download everything you need, get Odin ready and follow the guide. Should be a walk in the park.
Good luck m8
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tempest22 said:
Thank you so much man, seriously. I really just need root access, so if Towelroot doesn't work anymore I guess I'll just use Odin knowing it will trip Knox. Apart from voiding the warranty it doesn't do anything else right? Any reason to keep Knox? I'd rather keep the most recent firmware, so no downgrade for me.
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Not disregarding other replies " But", if your not concerned about warranty, and your work doesn't require your phone to have Knox security enabled, Root and flash to your hearts content. Again.... If warranty, is Not a concern, go for it, because trying to maintain Knox 0x0, makes things more complicated than they need to be, nor do you get to try all options at your disposal , and really if you weren't a little bit of a risk taker you would not even know what XDA does.(Odin away, lol) Again just my opinion and if it offends, disregard.
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Hi. Universal Root de la Vega's threat was clsoed and Op recommended us to use VRoot instead.
I found this Chinese VRoot and it looks very easy to do. Please see link below (in Chinese language, but you can use Google to translate)
http://www.mgyun.com/vroot
I just want to confirm if anyone had tried this and if it is KNOX 0x0 Root?
Thanks.
It do work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502967
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Does it work on the new MJ4 rom workout triggering knox?
klau1 said:
Does it work on the new MJ4 rom workout triggering knox?
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Just got my N3 yesterday, mine is MJ7... Will VRoot work with the latest OTA already installed? I've done quite a bit of searching on getting this thing rooted but xda "banned" KINGO cause everyone is freaking out about some Chinese server or exploit threat or whatever, supposedly La Vega won't work after MJ7 OTA... Even though I've been rooting a while, this all has me confused on what really works and what just made it to the forums first but might not work... Any help with legit root and recovery methods would be MUCH APPRECIATED!
az_biker said:
Just got my N3 yesterday, mine is MJ7... Will VRoot work with the latest OTA already installed? I've done quite a bit of searching on getting this thing rooted but xda "banned" KINGO cause everyone is freaking out about some Chinese server or exploit threat or whatever, supposedly La Vega won't work after MJ7 OTA... Even though I've been rooting a while, this all has me confused on what really works and what just made it to the forums first but might not work... Any help with legit root and recovery methods would be MUCH APPRECIATED!
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If you're worried about Chinese root method than you better stay away form vroot. Even the interface is in Chinese. Kingoapp, has addressed the concerns that some people had with their latest version, 1.1.2. You can check out their facebook page where they explain it all.
Understand that if you plan on using a custom recovery or ROM it will trip Knox and vroot and Kingoapp are probably not the way you want to go. You might look at CF Root instead.
mvansomeren said:
If you're worried about Chinese root method than you better stay away form vroot. Even the interface is in Chinese. Kingoapp, has addressed the concerns that some people had with their latest version, 1.1.2. You can check out their facebook page where they explain it all.
Understand that if you plan on using a custom recovery or ROM it will trip Knox and vroot and Kingoapp are probably not the way you want to go. You might look at CF Root instead.
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Where did CF Root say it's method won't trip KNOX? serious question.
RDLV is the only one isn't it?
klau1 said:
Where did CF Root say it's method won't trip KNOX? serious question.
RDLV is the only one isn't it?
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CF Root will trip knox. What I was saying is that if you want a custom recovery or rom, you might as well go with CF Root because it is going to trip knox anyway. vroot and Kingoapp doesn't trip knox because you don't get a custom recovery or rom as part of the root. They let you use apps that require root and do modification on the stock rom (if you know what you're doing).
Will De Vega Work?
so will the de la vega root method work for the latest VRUBMJ7 update? If not, what other root method will work that will not trip KNOX? Thanks in advanced
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CF Root will trip knox. What I was saying is that if you want a custom recovery or rom, you might as well go with CF Root because it is going to trip knox anyway. vroot and Kingoapp doesn't trip knox because you don't get a custom recovery or rom as part of the root. They let you use apps that require root and do modification on the stock rom (if you know what you're doing).
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So even with the canadian version unlocked bootloader you cannot install TWRP without tripping knox? Guess i can just use TBU to backup everything instead.
If you do root with one of these methods be careful. They are a security risk. I'd use mobile Odin to reflash my stock firmware after rooting and maybe even factory reset, just to be sure that I'd nuked any naughty apps. Mobile Odin will allow you to retain root.
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vichet007 said:
Hi. Universal Root de la Vega's threat was clsoed and Op recommended us to use VRoot instead.
I found this Chinese VRoot and it looks very easy to do. Please see link below (in Chinese language, but you can use Google to translate)
http://www.mgyun.com/vroot
I just want to confirm if anyone had tried this and if it is KNOX 0x0 Root?
Thanks.
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English
http://www.mgyun.com/en/GetVRoot
It still was NOT easy to use, but I can confirm positively that it can work and in my case did not trip knox. I had to reboot the phone manually at one point because it appeared stuck and I tried a 2nd time. The 2nd time the windows app rebooted the phone and it did get rooted.
UPDATE:
Thanks to cubarican84, I used the following SIMPLE solution to clean up the chinese superuser mess: http://www.w0lfdroid.com/2013/11/How-to-Remove-Replace-VRoot-Chinese-superuser-with-SuperSU.html?m=1
after a LONG search I found this link, hidden in about 1300 threads in the General section
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
can anyone confirm this is working for the 9506 snapdragon 800 version? I got my device last night, and now for initial testing I JUST want root. I've not upgraded to 4.3.
there are only 13 threads in this section. wouldn't it be nice to get a tested and working [ROOT] sticky in this section? Root is a basic requirement for us developers (although it has been some time I've cooked something myself )
Flash a pre rooted v4.2.2 stock rom @
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597058
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8monochrome said:
Flash a pre rooted v4.2.2 stock rom @
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597058
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I had read that thread, but I also read that there were some issues with it (permissions, at least with the 4.3 image). So I don't want to go with that option just yet. I prefer for now the stock ROM.
I am merely trying to get root (and just root) by creating a simple root guide in this forum as a sticky.
dXsL said:
I had read that thread, but I also read that there were some issues with it (permissions, at least with the 4.3 image). So I don't want to go with that option just yet. I prefer for now the stock ROM.
I am merely trying to get root (and just root) by creating a simple root guide in this forum as a sticky.
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If your on 4.2.2 use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566509
Simple and works!
bumax said:
If your on 4.2.2 use this method http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2566509
Simple and works!
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as far as I know, and depending on who you trust, KingoApp and VROOT have not been able to produce evidence that they are NOT harvesting IMEI numbers. The last I read is that XDA admins remove all download links to KingoApp and VROOT software. In the past several warnings have been posted about both apps. Unless anyone know that these apps are ok now?
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as far as I know, and depending on who you trust, KingoApp and VROOT have not been able to produce evidence that they are NOT harvesting IMEI numbers. The last I read is that XDA admins remove all download links to KingoApp and VROOT software. In the past several warnings have been posted about both apps. Unless anyone know that these apps are ok now?
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I read from xda and KingoApp facebook page and they claim all of those things have been removed from their app.
Cant say it 100% sure but I am happy that root works with their app. :silly:
bumax said:
I read from xda and KingoApp facebook page and they claim all of those things have been removed from their app.
Cant say it 100% sure but I am happy that root works with their app. :silly:
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in the "old days" we could use something like RootKeeper... i.e., for example root an older version of android (like 4.2.2), upgrade to a newer version (like 4.3) and subsequently lose root, and then restore the root with RootKeeper. Is that possible with this phone?
dXsL said:
in the "old days" we could use something like RootKeeper... i.e., for example root an older version of android (like 4.2.2), upgrade to a newer version (like 4.3) and subsequently lose root, and then restore the root with RootKeeper. Is that possible with this phone?
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I havent test with i9506 but with Xcover2 (GT-S7710) I have updated two phones via OTA and root has remain after update.
Possible with i9506 I bet root wont remain, atleast with 4.3 update cause KNOX.
How I managed to root my I9506:
Note: If you updated to 4.3 via OTA, it is very likely that you wont be able to flash custom recovery via Odin.
1) Reflash the full 4.3 firmware that i got mine form sammobile via odin
2) Follow through the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
Warning : After rooting through the steps above my phone KNOX Warranty Void : 0x1
(Not sure if this is due to the SuperSU disabling the KNOX or the actual rooting process)
dan079 said:
How I managed to root my I9506:
Note: If you updated to 4.3 via OTA, it is very likely that you wont be able to flash custom recovery via Odin.
1) Reflash the full 4.3 firmware that i got mine form sammobile via odin
2) Follow through the steps in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2529064
Warning : After rooting through the steps above my phone KNOX Warranty Void : 0x1
(Not sure if this is due to the SuperSU disabling the KNOX or the actual rooting process)
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Hey!
Like in other treads, like galaxy S3 I9xx was talked http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2597774, the 4.3 and later have already KNOX installed and if you install custom recovery or root your device, you probably fire the KNOX warranty to 0x1. Still there no one who was able to reset this KNOX warranty to 0x0, like TRIANGLE AEAY is resetting your flashing counter.
Then DONT install any CUSTOM RECOVERY or try to ROOT your device in 4.3 or later, if you want your warranty(ofcourse if there is already have the way, how to reset KNOX).
PEACE FOR ALL!!!
Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
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Hi,
I would like to know if there is any known way at the moment to get a rooted kitkat 4.4.2 firmware without tripping knox. I'm momentarily running MKE 4.3, German csc I think. I'm aware of saferoot for this firmware, but I would like to know if there's something like it for official kitkat, or if it is possible to root my 4.3 and then upgrade via mobile odin and inject root via everroot everroot without tripping knox. If not I'll just update via OTA and root via another method but if it's possible I'd like to keep knox for now
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No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
Mandark52 said:
No, uptil now there is no such method developed. Check on Kingo root website whether they ve updated to root 4.4.2 firmware.
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Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
wootyv said:
Oké, Thanks anyway
I don't really trust kingoroot as I thought that it had spyware installed, just as vroot, but then I heard about saferoot and I I was hoping I could keep root via mobile odin, but too bad. I'll just just root via cf-root then
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Not any spywarez but many of them reported that they lost their IMEI number.If you are on kitkat ,wait for stability updates n then root. Hit thnx if helpd.
Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
!SINGH! said:
Towelroot. by geohot
Does not trip the knox counter..but don't expect to use custom recoveries. It is a simple root only.
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Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
wootyv said:
Thanks! I read about it in the featured articles but I wasn't sure it would work or not. I was just planning to use the root to clean the ROM up a bit to free up some system memory and RAM and make some apps system apps, better backups and fiddle a bit with my storage, and maybe using some modules, do you know if using Xposed trips knox?
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Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
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Xposed doesn't... but I would be weary of modules that perform bootloader or deep system changes
Titanium Backup.. and use backup app and then remove/disable etc
Just be careful... if the knox counter is v important to you.
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It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
wootyv said:
It's not that important to me, I just don't want to trip it if I don't have to, if I need to trip it for something I really want to do I don't have a problem with it , it's not like use knox thanks you very much
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Actually KNOX is very important for warranty issues. If you dont have warranty then I wouldnt worry about it. If you DO have warranty then do not mess with KNOX-tripping root methods.
I needed to unroot (originally Towelrooted) to get an update, now I'm wanting to root again. Is there any advantage to root with Odin instead of Towelroot? Has anybody found any security flaws or any other negative quality with Towelroot by now? Does Odin still trip Knox? Because Towelroot didn't trip mine. Is there anything that significantly makes Odin better to use? Thanks.
How many threads are you going to start that ask the same question? This has been answered for you already. You updated, towelroot will no longer work for you, you need to root with cf-auto root using Odin. Knox will be tripped. You can try towelroot if you want.
There is no reason to make multiple threads for the same thing.
tempest22 said:
I needed to unroot (originally Towelrooted) to get an update, now I'm wanting to root again. Is there any advantage to root with Odin instead of Towelroot? Has anybody found any security flaws or any other negative quality with Towelroot by now? Does Odin still trip Knox? Because Towelroot didn't trip mine. Is there anything that significantly makes Odin better to use? Thanks.
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Wow you really need to learn how to search/read all the answers you need are there. Or better yet just don't bother cause it sounds like your just doing stuff for the sake of doing stuff
metalfan78 said:
How many threads are you going to start that ask the same question? This has been answered for you already. You updated, towelroot will no longer work for you, you need to root with cf-auto root using Odin. Knox will be tripped. You can try towelroot if you want.
There is no reason to make multiple threads for the same thing.
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But he can downgrade the kernel with Odin, towelroot then and re-upgrade the kernel afterwards.
As far as i know Odin still trips Knox, so i don't see a reason not to use towelroot if you upgrade the kernel afterwards.
tempest22 said:
I needed to unroot (originally Towelrooted) to get an update, now I'm wanting to root again. Is there any advantage to root with Odin instead of Towelroot? Has anybody found any security flaws or any other negative quality with Towelroot by now? Does Odin still trip Knox? Because Towelroot didn't trip mine. Is there anything that significantly makes Odin better to use? Thanks.
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Idi... um i mean users like you ought to be reprimanded severely when posting a question that many times cause you`re too lazy to search yourself.
Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance
hbahaie said:
Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance
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Last I checked there wasn't a clear cut method, it could be done. And since you're still on 4.3 it may be easier.
Have a look around and check the threads, there was some workarounds posted a few months back. It's not easy but it was doable. Using Mobile Odin Pro (still possible AFAIK)
I personally like a lot of others just tripped KNOX as it was a lot easier. However this isn't a viable option for everyone.
So in my opinion and my personal advice, weigh up the pros and cons of potentially tripping KNOX.
If you wanna flash custom ROMs, kernels without any headaches. Aren't too worried about your warranty (especially if you've had your device a while and are in the EU)
CONS: while you may be able to get things flashed and not trip KNOX, you may accidentally trip it with something so trivial, you'll always be trying to not trip it by avoiding different things.
Really, and ultimately only you can decide. No one is gonna judge you if you decide it's best for you to not trip and go the workaround methods.
Either way, whatever you decide, the forum is here to help if you have any questions or get into any difficulty. Good luck in your choice.
Sent from my Spectrum ZX +2
hbahaie said:
Sorry, for question, I am coming from Nokia Lumia and HTC worlds. So, I still don't have a lot of experience regarding Knox issues. I have searched a lot and find nothing specific for my case.
My N9005 is on Android 4.3 MJ7 version, currently I have 4.4.2 OTA upgrade downloaded and ready to be installed. I want to install any rom 4.4.2 or above without tripping my knox. Already rooted using Kingo method and installed MOP.
The question is if I upgraded my device, does MOP still capable to install the custom ROM without tripping Knox, and how to backup my current nand without installing custom recovery?
I think that I can also install custom recovery via MOP without tripping the Knox, right?
Thank you very much in advance
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776887
There could be other roms but i'm not up to date either.
radicalisto said:
Last I checked there wasn't a clear cut method, it could be done. And since you're still on 4.3 it may be easier.
Have a look around and check the threads, there was some workarounds posted a few months back. It's not easy but it was doable. Using Mobile Odin Pro (still possible AFAIK)
I personally like a lot of others just tripped KNOX as it was a lot easier. However this isn't a viable option for everyone.
So in my opinion and my personal advice, weigh up the pros and cons of potentially tripping KNOX.
If you wanna flash custom ROMs, kernels without any headaches. Aren't too worried about your warranty (especially if you've had your device a while and are in the EU)
CONS: while you may be able to get things flashed and not trip KNOX, you may accidentally trip it with something so trivial, you'll always be trying to not trip it by avoiding different things.
Really, and ultimately only you can decide. No one is gonna judge you if you decide it's best for you to not trip and go the workaround methods.
Either way, whatever you decide, the forum is here to help if you have any questions or get into any difficulty. Good luck in your choice.
Sent from my Spectrum ZX +2
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Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2776887
There could be other roms but i'm not up to date either.
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Thank you very much friends for your help.
I have tripped my device already , and I am happy, I can flash any rom I want. That's more more easier than worrying about a make no difference digit change in the download mode screen.