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The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ime-pie-release-date-news-and-rumours-1091500
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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That's awesome. You should totally make a thread about it....
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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i feel a hint of "sarcasm" in what you wrote!
LOL
The nexus S is unlikely to get the next major version so this thread serves no purpose but to disappoint many people.
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The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
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I'd love to see the responsiveness of wp7. I tried my friends Samsung Omnia phone with WP7 and I was impressed. It was so fast and smooth. However I wouldn't use WP7 because I can't mod it
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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Will do! :highfive:
Even if nexus s isn't supported it will be by the community here on xda plus I'm betting most of us are on two year contracts (well I am anyway) and waiting to upgrade to the newest nexus when it comes out (soon)
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Who knows?! A Nexus is a Nexus after all.
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I hope google to continue support future version of android for nexus s. Most new devices are dual core or quad cores, with > 1G ram.. I dont think the new androids should only target for a high ended hardware spec. The NS is still a good "low end" demo device.
Its not really a good low end device spec wise anymore either.
These mobile devices are on what I think Anand refers to as hyper Moore's law. Which basically means the improvements on the mobile SoC are taking place a really rapid rate at this time. The difference between what a current gen chip and a two year old chip can do is huge
We are just now approaching the point where the chips are truly getting really powerful and aren't going to need to be leapfrogged by the next chip 6 months down the road. Example is the s4 pro and the next gen arm15 cores. Those chips are so powerful that they will be able to cut it for years no problem. Just how desktops have been for a couple of years.
The verge has a little piece up now on a HTC device with a 5 inch 1080p 440ppi display
There is a big deal from the software. Running stock jelly bean on the Galaxy Nexus was faster than touchwiz from S3. Single core iPhone4 and Lumia is pretty smooth to me (for the most part), taking OS differences aside.
That HTC device has been known for a while, (thats what you get for reading the verge), but I'm more interested inthe Oppo Find 5. Although I have doubt the later will be cyanogenmod supported. As for HTC, 1080p with Sense is still Sense, and you lose your warrenty rooting it and time too. Otherwize I would like a 1080p device. Though the LG Optimus G has S4 Pro and 13mp camera matches the Oppo Find 5 so its less compelling now.
With that aside I wouldn't mind a non-oversized phone with Nexus freedom. I'm looking at the Blaze by T-Mobile just getting CM10, but doesn't look like its a popular phone among devs, being Qualcomm S3 and all. I'm looking at the S3 mini too, though the form factor is ideal, it looks like a lazy attempt for Samsung to milk off their S3 popularity, for its expected retail price I'd rather get a Galaxy Nexus.
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The HTC device has been rumored forever. There where not any demo's / announcements prior to it being shown yesterday in Japan.
Its kind of a lackluster though, 16gb, non-removable battery, 8mp, no-microsd, and as I mentioned, Sense, process of unlocking and rooting...
Aside from the 1080p, I think phones like the Note2 and Optimus G has more features to offer. I'm still waiting to see a press release of the Oppo phone to see if all the specs are true though. Again, I'm bias.
Hopefully the multiple nexus rumours are true and the HTC one is built with the j butterfly blueprint. Stock android on that would be freaking awesome. I am doubtful though.
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If we don't get a new version, I think we'll get a better optimized JB. Unless they go to 5.0..
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How about our devices
Still get update from google after JB???
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I'm trying not to think about an upgrade.
I've really enjoyed every update, except 4.0.4 giving me a weird power button issue that a clean install and 4.1.1 fixed.
I literally just flashed 4.1.2 on, and AGAIN it feels like my phone is a bit faster and snappier.
I'm going to treat my Nexus S like my G1....keep updating until it until it grinds to a halt.
Before that happen, I think your power button would stop working first.
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I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.
it cant be that hard, I mean there really isnt anything new.
I wondered how long it would take for a thread title like this would come up..HAHA! :laugh:
Can't see why not, it got 4.1 so should get 4.2 as it's not a huge update. Well, that's my wishful thinking anyway!
Still JB, will get
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Yes, the Nexus S will get 4.2 officially. It will get 5.0 as well, if not officially then by CyanogenMod.
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I was just reading through tons of news on portals, and I can't find any info about Nexus S or Galaxy Nexus and 4.2 being rolled out. I mean, Google surely has already decided what to do with us.
I mean honestly, I know Cyanogen or AOKP, or hopefully Rasbean will keep updating my favourite phone ever (really, I have never had a phone this awesome. Pioneer of it's price range and specs!) but I want to know if Google still likes their Nexus S.
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Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.
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Question is not will the Nexus S get 4.2 but when As soon as sources come available.
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I'd say ^^ pretty much ends this convo. Right on target.
Nice to hear all that. Nexus S ftw
Why not
Our Nexus S it's untill powerfull...
It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!
I think the chances are pretty good that the NS will get 4.2, but beyond that I'm skeptical. We're coming up on the phone's two-year anniversary for one thing. It's also begun to chug a bit with Jelly Bean, and I doubt the next major update will be any less resource intensive. Between the age and the hardware limitations, I suspect we're in the twilight months of Google support for the Nexus S.
must will get 4.2.... not official no problem :laugh:
this will probably be the last update the Nexus S gets.
Good thing tho, you know most likely that XDA will have some form of port.
I'm getting the Nexus 4 tho!!! my contract is almost up. I might even get it off contract! (AU$400 for 32GB, thats dirt cheap compared to the iPhone 5 which is AU$900! That's less than half the price, for better specs... and android... and build quality is improved dramatically from the previous Nexusesss)
I think it will get 4.2 ... it an incremental upgrade, so anything 'jellybean' we should get
Can't wait to try 4.2
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It will get official 4.2 for sure, but key lime pye will be here only unofficial.
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last year, when I bought my Nexus S, someone told me: "It's a year's old phone.. don't waste your money..."
I'm almost sure for 4.2 ...
I personally think about a Google "3 letters law" for Nexus devices. Nexus One went from E(Eclair) to G(Gingerbread), passing by Frojo, Nexus S will go from G to J passing by ICS, and GNex will "live" from I to L ... Officially speaking, I mean And, of course, I hope there will always be some clever group (like CyanogenMod, for example) or "one man band" who enjoy to develop ROM or kernel for our preferred devices :fingers-crossed:
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It better! I just bought a used one yesterday!
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You made the right choice .
It remains to be seen if the Nexus S and Xoom will get 4.2 or if 4.1.2 was the last update. We won't know until 4.2 gets released to AOSP. I will say that since they seem to have axed the Honeycomb-style tablet interface from 4.2, the Xoom may be out. As for the Nexus S...historically Google has only maintained support for the current and previous phone generation, which would now be the Nexus 4 and Galaxy Nexus. That said, however, I don't see anything major that would lead me to believe that the Nexus S couldn't run 4.2...unless they tossed out support for capacitive buttons entirely.
Regardless of whether or not there is a stock 4.2 ROM for either device, I'm sure the developers here will have custom ROMs that have it baked in.
If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
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If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
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I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.
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If the ATT bootloader becomes and unlockable and when the Google version is released will it be possible to turn an ATT S4 into a Google Nexus version 100% and get all the updates from Google once that ROM is loaded? I was tempted to return the ATT and wait for the Google but since I got it though an upgrade I will prob just keep it.
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I doubt you will be able to convert it into a device that receives updates from Google, because those updates are pushed based on your device's ID. The Device ID will always be a AT&T Galaxy S4.
However, that doesn't mean that the community won't create their own distros and OTA's that can be applied to any Galaxy S4 whenever Google pushes updates to their Galaxy S4.
I'm sure the day after the rom is released it will be available for us to try out
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Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.
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Thanks guys. I am coming from an iPhone 5 which I prefer and will keep as my primary device. I love the S4 as it is full of features (gimmicks) and eye candy but is no match for the iPhone 5 in terms of robustness etc. Yes iOS has become stale but even at half the cpu power as the S4 it still feels faster and more solid hardware wise. Just purchased the nano to micro sim adapter for $2 so i will be swapping back and forth and enjoying the best of both devices.
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I did that for a while and then just stayed with android. I liked iPhone but os was boring quick and biggest issue was trying to type on a small screen and use it felt weird quick as I was used to bigger screen and could never go back to iPhone again. This phone lags big time but with cm10 it will fly and the note 2 or HTC one flies also so you can't compare this crappy Samsung rom on sgs4 to android phones in general.
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We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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We will get aosp (nexus software) as soon as the bootloader is unlocked...so we will probably have nexus software before the google edition is released
There are already custom aosp roms released for the phone that are working good...only thing holding back att users is the bootloader. But the fact they exist tells us that we will have a nexus like experience on our s4...idk why everyone thinks it relies on the google edition...because it doesn't. Nearly every phone here on xda has the ability to run aosp aka nexus software
The only benefit of the google edition is it will hopefully bring good source code allowing devs to fix bugs much more easily and incorporate the new sensors into the roms
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let's hope the stock android version on the google gs4 is not the same stock android on nexus 4. because if it is, then there will be no gs4 sensor support in the google gs4.
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I think maybe it can be. If you look at the LG Optimus G you can convert it into a Nexus 4.
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the reason the lg optimus g was able to take nexus 4 stock android and use it is because 1.) the lg optimus g finally got upgraded to android 4.1.2 which gave it the same rmp/tz as android 4.2.2. 2.) they share the exact same hardware since they are both made by LG and the models copied each other. the same wont be able to be said for the gs4, so it will take alot of modifying. much more than it does for the lg optimus g to run nexus 4 roms.
Does any one know when we will get upgrades to the LG non GPE g pad?
Or is it possible to install the GPE 4.42 upgrade on non GPE G Pad?
Thanks in advance.
Yes there's already a post about it. Search.
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DigitalLefty said:
Does any one know when we will get upgrades to the LG non GPE g pad?
Or is it possible to install the GPE 4.42 upgrade on non GPE G Pad?
Thanks in advance.
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I actually contacted LG regarding this the other day. They put me in contact with an 'LG g pad expert' who told me that it was unlikely that V500 would see any updates beyond 4.2.2, but that they would keep the LG G2 current (obvious). I was like, 'uhhhh, shouldn't it be easy since the gpe has the same specs and there is already 4.4 kitkat for it?'. He went on to explain to me that the OS development team responsible for the gpe was separate from the one that was responsible for the original g pad (V500) and that they (original developers) were being left out of the loop on everything regarding the new updates. The old devs were from LG and the new ones are from Google I think - I may have interpreted him incorrectly as he was difficult to understand... but I think this was the jist of what he was saying.
The upgrade to 4.4 broke my GPS completely. I did a factory reset to go back to 4.3 and then overnight it automatically updated to 4.4 again. After that the GPS works again.
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The upgrade to 4.4 broke my GPS completely. I did a factory reset to go back to 4.3 and then overnight it automatically updated to 4.4 again. After that the GPS works again.
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Please explain how you have 4.3 and 4.4 on your gpad
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there is no official update at the moment for 4.3 or 4.4.2. Only way is to install a custom recovery and then a custom rom. Cyanogenn mod 11 released a snapshot version yesterday
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there is no official update at the moment for 4.3 or 4.4.2. Only way is to install a custom recovery and then a custom rom. Cyanogenn mod 11 released a snapshot version yesterday
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So what is lucien talking about
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So what is lucien talking about
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he is talking about a custom rom or maybe the gpe edition? There are no official updates atm and i find it kind of hard for an official update to break your gps
Thought maybe he meant a gpe rom that he got working
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threnagyn said:
I actually contacted LG regarding this the other day. They put me in contact with an 'LG g pad expert' who told me that it was unlikely that V500 would see any updates beyond 4.2.2, but that they would keep the LG G2 current (obvious). I was like, 'uhhhh, shouldn't it be easy since the gpe has the same specs and there is already 4.4 kitkat for it?'. He went on to explain to me that the OS development team responsible for the gpe was separate from the one that was responsible for the original g pad (V500) and that they (original developers) were being left out of the loop on everything regarding the new updates. The old devs were from LG and the new ones are from Google I think - I may have interpreted him incorrectly as he was difficult to understand... but I think this was the jist of what he was saying.
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I very, very much doubt LG would kill support for their only tablet (outside of the GPE) as soon as it was released. If this thing gets stuck on 4.2.2 it'll be the last LG product I ever buy. Granted, I'm on 4.4.2 thanks to developers, but still. It would be very stupid of them.
There have been some rumors on sites that it will get it this quarter. Don't know how reliable anything is and will just wait and see. If it doesn't get an update I will end up rooting and flashing but I hope it does get an update because I like the LG interface and extras.
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Stujoe said:
There have been some rumors on sites that it will get it this quarter. Don't know how reliable anything is and will just wait and see. If it doesn't get an update I will end up rooting and flashing but I hope it does get an update because I like the LG interface and extras.
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A few people have spoken to LG about this and they currently have no plans to update the stock ROM to 4.4.2. Your best bet would be to root and flash it.
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I very, very much doubt LG would kill support for their only tablet (outside of the GPE) as soon as it was released. If this thing gets stuck on 4.2.2 it'll be the last LG product I ever buy. Granted, I'm on 4.4.2 thanks to developers, but still. It would be very stupid of them.
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I agree with you completely - I won't do business with them in the future either, but as I stated before, I contacted them and this is what they told me (that they prob wouldn't do updates). I think they are going to let the V500 supply dry up and only the V510 will be available from then on out. If that's the case, the user base of the V500 will be relatively small so they might not feel that its worth it to keep it updated for a small group of people.
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A few people have spoken to LG about this and they currently have no plans to update the stock ROM to 4.4.2. Your best bet would be to root and flash it.
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Who have they talked to? The people who would typically answer a phone or email are unlikely to know. They will know of any potential update when or if LG is ready to release one just like anyone else. Until or if that happens, they are going to say no plans and would probably be instructed to say no plans.
Unless someone has a real inside source, I would be leery of any information coming from Joe blow at LG.
Regardless, I am sure I will be flashing it eventually anyway. I know myself too well to think I won't.
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Me thinks that if they don't have updates what they might do is merge updates with gpe and just allow apk installs for some of the lg specific features
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Me thinks that if they don't have updates what they might do is merge updates with gpe and just allow apk installs for some of the lg specific features
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I don't know man.. I think LG could just leave it as is. Since I mean.. Blue stripes, 7 LED's on white background with low brightness.. It just seems like there's been so many issues with this tablets screen that.. Well.. Why not release something new and take care of the issues?
Hasn't LG been known for leaving ppl out of the fun? Release the phone, move on, if you know what I mean.
With that said, I dealt with the screen and I don't notice any troubles at all, but not every one feel that way. I mean.. The boxes aren't sealed in half of the stores.. Man this tablet has had a pretty poor launch from LG's standpoint.
What I don't understand is why Google took it in at all with all these screens and such. Shouldn't they be pushing for like.. REAL quality? Gah, not that it's not quality.. It's just not Nexus standard with all these things on the screen. I dunno dude. Something just tells me that this tablet isn't gonna be as huge as I expected before I got it myself. If Google starts developing on the GPE all I can hope for is that ppl find a way for us v500 ppl to port over and keep on using this beast tablet. Cause let's face it. All tablets have issues, these are just a bit more.. Visual.. But fixable/ignorable/circumstanced I'd say.
The problems with this tablet are tiny compared to most of the devices that Google have released.
Check the forums for the devices that covers the first 3 months of release.
I waited 6 months before I bought the original n7 because of all the QC issues.
And also bear in mind that the actual sales figures for Google devices is just a small drop in the Ocean, compared to the big boys.
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I don't know man.. I think LG could just leave it as is. Since I mean.. Blue stripes, 7 LED's on white background with low brightness.. It just seems like there's been so many issues with this tablets screen that.. Well.. Why not release something new and take care of the issues?
Hasn't LG been known for leaving ppl out of the fun? Release the phone, move on, if you know what I mean.
With that said, I dealt with the screen and I don't notice any troubles at all, but not every one feel that way. I mean.. The boxes aren't sealed in half of the stores.. Man this tablet has had a pretty poor launch from LG's standpoint.
What I don't understand is why Google took it in at all with all these screens and such. Shouldn't they be pushing for like.. REAL quality? Gah, not that it's not quality.. It's just not Nexus standard with all these things on the screen. I dunno dude. Something just tells me that this tablet isn't gonna be as huge as I expected before I got it myself. If Google starts developing on the GPE all I can hope for is that ppl find a way for us v500 ppl to port over and keep on using this beast tablet. Cause let's face it. All tablets have issues, these are just a bit more.. Visual.. But fixable/ignorable/circumstanced I'd say.
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Lol go look at nexus 7 2013 forums. Google doesn't care about quality control for the most part in my opinion. Its a major factor why I decided to get this.
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The problems with this tablet are tiny compared to most of the devices that Google have released.
Check the forums for the devices that covers the first 3 months of release.
I waited 6 months before I bought the original n7 because of all the QC issues.
And also bear in mind that the actual sales figures for Google devices is just a small drop in the Ocean, compared to the big boys.
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Lol go look at nexus 7 2013 forums. Google doesn't care about quality control for the most part in my opinion. Its a major factor why I decided to get this.
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I see your points guys. Just from having checked the earliest 3 pages on the Nexus 7 (2013) General forums I've found several reports on dead pixels and dust under the bezel/screen.
I subtract my statement. To some degree. I still stand firm by the fact that I don't understand why Google would choose a tablet that has been reported to have like.. Cohesive issues with the screen and that it is up to peoples "nit picking" if they wanna keep it or not.
One thing is to have Asus produce a tablet, test some devices and then release it and THEN find out the screens and the damn assembly of the tablets has been flawed as fck, not to mention the seemingly bad functioning android 4.3 Stock Nexus 7 ROM. - Another thing is to decide to re-release a branded 8 inch tablet as a Google device even after it has been receiver with such big variation by the masses.
With all the devices that were being swapped for new ones already, I don't see how Google would think they'd actually make a lot of money on selling this device. Wouldn't it have been more clever to wait around and see if something better came along? Of course the fact that the LG G Pad 8.3" falls in line with the low cost Google devices is of course a reason worth considering as well, in terms of branding. It just doesn't change that this tablet is unstable on the consumer market since many people thinks of the screen as the most important thing on a tablet, and I will agree with them since you're looking at it and it will show all mistakes to you at all times (when you choose to look for them.)
Isn't there a difference between creating a device and then finding the flaws after production and re-releasing a device you already knew was having issues that a big part of the community was rather unsatisfied with to begin with?
- Sorry for the long answer guys. And I agree with you on the fact that Google prolly doesn't care that much about quality control since all these issues are floating around in the Nexus forums. So, I'm sorry for the first post. This one is simply just me thinking about the last part here.
First of people on these forums myself include d are the worst nit pickers. 99% of buy public would either not notice or care of what we complain about.
GPE edition is likely due to face there is a partnership with Google and lg. The last 2 Nexus phones are made by LG.
Overall it is a good tablet. It would cost them nothing for current users to be Allowed to move the software top sane add gpe version if they decide not to continue support.
Long before then I am sure we will have a rom with the best of both
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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vkk178 said:
Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
jshamlet said:
The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Cor-master said:
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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