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Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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They're already pushing updates faster than they ever have, their update process is pretty easy to follow if you put in the time and effort to research it a little. Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software. Yet again another spam thread about where's my update, the long and short of it is you have to be patient and wait like the rest of us.
wright_ac is correct about this. Their updates has been more faster than the originally before. Even faster than optimization than the Samsung updates which tells you something already. I've been largely patient with the updates and with the newest update, I've been noting but impress with optimization and additional little UI changes which does have it quirks of wondering why they haven't done that in the first place haha. The only glimpse I have is to replace the vibration module which have been ordered. DIY here I come haha.
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Guys as we all face several delays and miss in informations about the new software upgrades we wish to sign a petition to force sony To share us the stages and phases about the new upgrade not as before waiting 3 months and no info,as you saw what happeb to xperia SP they delay the updates wothout any reason so guys who can help us to do it so we can get some info fron the source neither leaks nor rumors are you in guys so who can help us???
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Since when did a petition ever force any person or any company to do anything?
All it is likely to do is telegraph the impatience of the self obsessed.
7 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in less than a year aren't enough for you?
4.1.2
350 -> 434 -> 253 -> 307
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569
How fast do you expect Sony to release updates if that isn't enough for you?
My previous device was a LG P990. It received 2 updates in the 2 years that I had it. Both were bug ridden messes that shouldn't have even been betas, never mind released.
So think yourself lucky with what you get from Sony.
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Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software.
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Spot on!
Just as the Playstation 1 with the limited hardware got better and better games and graphics, so does the Z stock ROM get better and faster.
I love this device.
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7 updates, including 2 upgrades to new versions of Android in less than a year aren't enough for you?
4.1.2
350 -> 434 -> 253 -> 307
Then -
4.2.2
423 -> 244 -> 67
Then -
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569
How fast do you expect Sony to release updates if that isn't enough for you?
My previous device was a LG P990. It received 2 updates in the 2 years that I had it. Both were bug ridden messes that shouldn't have even been betas, never mind released.
So think yourself lucky with what you get from Sony.
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instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
samxool said:
instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
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lol... you should buy a nexus or GPE phone if you want the latest greatest android version instantly, if you want Sony's refined software, we need to give Sony time to work on it.
TO should stop whining and start learning how to develop new ROM's himself. You sound like a little kid.
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They're already pushing updates faster than they ever have, their update process is pretty easy to follow if you put in the time and effort to research it a little. Unlike a lot of brands they put a large emphasis on optimisation which means that things run a lot smoother, note the limited number of bugs in the 4.3 software. Yet again another spam thread about where's my update, the long and short of it is you have to be patient and wait like the rest of us.
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Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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samxool said:
instead of wasting time with incremental updates, they should focus their attention to more timely updates.
I'm on 4.2 waiting on 4.3.
4.3??!! , i should be getting 4.4 now!
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You heard it here, Sony. Don't bother fixing any bugs or bother with any quality assurance. Get those updates out the door now!
Seriously, it's plain from your post history that you have no idea what it takes to prepare, test and release an update, especially an upgrade to a new version of Android. Just stop commenting altogether until you do. Or even better go and complain on Sony's support forum like you've been told to many times in the past.
This is a development forum, primarily for people to share work they have produced and for similarly interested people to share knowledge and to learn, not a place for people with no clue to vent about things that nobody here has any control over.
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Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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Here's someone else that only comes here to complain about Sony when updates are on the horizon. Hooray!
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zodiac100 said:
Sony firmware is just as buggy and comes with as many issues as updates from other manufacturers so your optimization argument is just bull.
The truth is flagship for flagship, Sony is much later than its competitors as far as updates go.
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Right, let's look at it this way is there any major bug in the 4.3 Rom that is detrimental to performance/usability, not really. If you look at how smooth 4.3 runs compared to 4.2.2 you'll see what I mean, if it's "bull" as you so call it then move to another manufacturer like HTC or Samsung. If people looked at what went into it all and saw the amount of work it takes you'd all stop complaining less.
I think more than 50% of the people forget that SONY always more than 3 phones support with updates.
How kingvortex said, there is a lot of time and management needed to realese a update or upgrade.
Do not forget this guys! That is really hard work for SONY.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Ok some question.
What visible changes has htc made in the 4.3 update?
-None
What new great things were contained in the new update?
-Almost none
I've seen bloatwiz and sense updates and wasn't impressed at all.
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zodiac100 said:
You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Do not forget, not every human buys every year a new phone. What I wanna say: HTC and Samsung does not give that update support as SONY. They update more or less the flagship and let the other phones waste after a year.
Also the most of people want a stable and smooth ROM. If SONY would release Android 4.4 after 1 week, I do not think that all would be stable.
And I prefer 1 good update than one which is not finished and I have to wait again for an update.
Here it doesn't matter if we are fanboys or not. That's fact yes, but what is better? 3 updates/phone in a year or 15 updates/phone in 2-3 years and be more or less up 2 date for long time?. If you don't like that, buy next time an other phone or unlock your bootloader and flash custom ROMs or buy a GPE.
Tommy-Geenexus said it, SONY give us also much of (new) features. They gave us the whole UI from the new Z1 with the 4.3 update.. That isn't of course. And also do not forget, SONY have to "change" all from "Android design" in to the "SONY design", that needs a lot of time.
I like the update policy because I know, every time when I read SONY will give us a new update, there will be a lot of new changes that can make me happy.
But however. Everyone should have their own opinion, they should just be realistic.
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Looking at your post history, you seem to have a long history of buying Sony phones and coming here to whine about every little thing.
Yet you still keep on buying Sony phones.
Why is this exactly? You would have thought anyone that seems to dislike a manufacturers practices so much would have moved on by now.
You like to throw the word fanboy around a lot, when people are simply disagreeing with what you say. This just looks like you defending you irrational hatred of Sony. I mean, you don't post here for months at a time and only pop up when updates are released to whine and moan in every slightly related thread. Sell your phone and move on if it causes you to do that!
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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The great and powerful zoltar sees an iPhone in your future.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49017766#post49017766
It's been closed on the forum it started in....
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You guys can fanboy all you want. The simple fact remains Sony is always behind Samsung and HTC with software updates. It's nobody's fault they produce so many phones.
When did the s4 and HTC one get 4.3? Months ahead of Sony that's when.
The OP made the fatal mistake of posting such a thing here at xda or should I say fanboys corner.
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Stop talking trash. I prefer Sony way of updating, it takes time but SURELY get its job done. The changes in UI and optimization speaks the truth.
Mind you, currently I have samsung note 3, samsung update (ex: MK7) was trash. Battery drain was a huge let-down.
How do you think the software update support from Sony for this model will be like?
I personally hope that it'll get the same treatment as Z1 (prioritised updates during its 1st year...?), but I kind of have a feeling that it's going to be overlooked. I guess it'll depend on the sales too...?
Discuss below!
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How do you think the software update support from Sony for this model will be like?
I personally hope that it'll get the same treatment as Z1 (prioritised updates during its 1st year...?), but I kind of have a feeling that it's going to be overlooked. I guess it'll depend on the sales too...?
Discuss below!
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Kitkat update for March (oficial)
nizarnoor said:
How do you think the software update support from Sony for this model will be like?
I personally hope that it'll get the same treatment as Z1 (prioritised updates during its 1st year...?), but I kind of have a feeling that it's going to be overlooked. I guess it'll depend on the sales too...?
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be sure that sony will support this phone for at least two years.
this is sony policy so far for flagships.
Sony Xperia S & Ion were flagships of 2012 and they support it until nowadays.
from Jan2012 to Jan2014.
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x102x96x said:
be sure that sony will support this phone for at least two years.
this is sony policy so far for flagships.
Sony Xperia S & Ion were flagships of 2012 and they support it until nowadays.
from Jan2012 to Jan2014.
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Xperia Ion - released June 2012. Last updated by Sony: June 2013 (twelve months later). Plus the last version released was 4.1.2 Jelly Bean (which was released by Google in October 2012). So really it only got four months of support.
Xperia S - released February 2012. Last updated by Sony: August 2013 (18 months later). However again, the last version released was 4.1.2 which was released by Google in October 2012, so really 8 months of support.
At most we can expect to see KitKat and the next android version to come to our Xperia Z1Cs. Beyond that we won't get support. But this is XDA, we don't need official updates anyway :victory:
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but I kind of have a feeling that it's going to be overlooked!
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Why do you say that ?
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Why do you say that ?
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It's just that I haven't seen a massive marketing push for this from Sony.. So it's like they're not giving this model the attention it deserves, which might mean they're not planning to support it. I really hope I'm wrong on that though.
There was a full page advert for the Z1c on the back of the free London Evening Standard newspaper yesterday.
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codified said:
Xperia Ion - released June 2012. Last updated by Sony: June 2013 (twelve months later). Plus the last version released was 4.1.2 Jelly Bean (which was released by Google in October 2012). So really it only got four months of support.
Xperia S - released February 2012. Last updated by Sony: August 2013 (18 months later). However again, the last version released was 4.1.2 which was released by Google in October 2012, so really 8 months of support.
At most we can expect to see KitKat and the next android version to come to our Xperia Z1Cs. Beyond that we won't get support. But this is XDA, we don't need official updates anyway :victory:
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Seems like Sony is getting better and faster with updates nowadays (That was 2012 now is 2014). Look at T,V or Z for example.
Just like my favourite album from Calvin Harris : "18 Months"
at least Sony has to update this phone in 18 months update cycle.
I'm just saying
So is it confirmed the Z1c will get the same update that the Z1 will get come March?
Golgo said:
So is it confirmed the Z1c will get the same update that the Z1 will get come March?
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Yes, of course. I don't know about March but KitKat will surely come. And beyond KitKat updates will probably come as well. No worries there, really.
I think that the manufacturers should support the devices they sell but not in they way that some people believe they should. I think they should only provide software updates to fix bugs and improve performance. I do not believe that they should offer updates to the next version of android. It takes a lot of resources and money to adapt android x.x with Sony interface and then make it work on a dozen different devices. Resources that could be put towards a better experience on newer devices. I feel that if I pay for a device with android 4.3, 4.3 is what I paid for. Not 4.3+4.4+4.5 . On the flip side I believe that when a new version of android is made available that manufacturers not be allowed to offer a device with an older version. That would take some effort from Google and the manufacturers but it would be great if all the phones that came out after Halloween already had KitKat. And let the hate commence.
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darksideauto said:
I think that the manufacturers should support the devices they sell but not in they way that some people believe they should. I think they should only provide software updates to fix bugs and improve performance. I do not believe that they should offer updates to the next version of android. It takes a lot of resources and money to adapt android x.x with Sony interface and then make it work on a dozen different devices. Resources that could be put towards a better experience on newer devices. I feel that if I pay for a device with android 4.3, 4.3 is what I paid for. Not 4.3+4.4+4.5 . On the flip side I believe that when a new version of android is made available that manufacturers not be allowed to offer a device with an older version. That would take some effort from Google and the manufacturers but it would be great if all the phones that came out after Halloween already had KitKat. And let the hate commence.
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Good views
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I don't think I could imagine being in that kind of customers shoes.
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darksideauto said:
I think that the manufacturers should support the devices they sell but not in they way that some people believe they should. I think they should only provide software updates to fix bugs and improve performance. I do not believe that they should offer updates to the next version of android. It takes a lot of resources and money to adapt android x.x with Sony interface and then make it work on a dozen different devices. Resources that could be put towards a better experience on newer devices. I feel that if I pay for a device with android 4.3, 4.3 is what I paid for. Not 4.3+4.4+4.5 . On the flip side I believe that when a new version of android is made available that manufacturers not be allowed to offer a device with an older version. That would take some effort from Google and the manufacturers but it would be great if all the phones that came out after Halloween already had KitKat. And let the hate commence.
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Hardware now is at the point where a high-end phone should last a good 3 years or even indefinitely.. I mean.. do we need 8 cores and 4k screens? I would not want an environment where a producer is forced to spawn new hardware just because new software is available, I would like it to happen more organically than that.
While hardware arms-race is great at drastically improving performance in new technology, there should theoretically be a limit where hardware improvements may not outweigh the cost to the consumer, and it is at this point where software takes over. Processing power and screen resolution is at a point where anything more is redundant. At least I think that software is where the future is at. I'd take a good and useful feature, instead of imperceivable pixel-density or more CPU power.
Keep in mind I'm not saying screen resolution and cpu-core improvements are worth zero, I just think they may not be worth as much as Qualcomm is trying to make us believe. Battery performance on the other hand, gimmie -- though this is equal parts software and hardware. There are many hardware improvements that are infinitely more useful than a new android-version, unfortunately they are overlooked by the naive consumer that just want whatever the producers can most easily improve upon.
I feel that if I pay for a device with android 4.3, 4.3 is what I paid for.
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Ha! You've got to be kidding, you can not possibly defend this statement? When you pay 500$ for a phone, you'd rather have Sony forget all about you and move on the next phone? A new android major-version update can be just as impressive and fun as new hardware, and if you don't want it, don't install it? I don't count bug-fixing, included in the price of a new phone, should be the promise of a bug-free and functional device.
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Ha! You've got to be kidding, you can not possibly defend this statement? When you pay 500$ for a phone, you'd rather have Sony forget all about you and move on the next phone? A new android major-version update can be just as impressive and fun as new hardware, and if you don't want it, don't install it? I don't count bug-fixing, included in the price of a new phone, should be the promise of a bug-free and functional device.
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Im not sure how to respond in a way that would not bring more negative feedback.
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nizarnoor said:
It's just that I haven't seen a massive marketing push for this from Sony.. So it's like they're not giving this model the attention it deserves, which might mean they're not planning to support it. I really hope I'm wrong on that though.
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I hope this doesn't come off as my being totally USA-centric, but the biggest worry I have in this regard is the lack of U.S. sales, and hence, support. How much of a flagship device can it be without including the largest (counting the EU as separate markets) market? I'm looking hopefully to MWC for some clue otherwise, but not very confident.
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I hope this doesn't come off as my being totally USA-centric, but the biggest worry I have in this regard is the lack of U.S. sales, and hence, support. How much of a flagship device can it be without including the largest (counting the EU as separate markets) market? I'm looking hopefully to MWC for some clue otherwise, but not very confident.
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I was also quite irritated with Sony's choice to practically ignore the USA. Im also wondering why they hold back some devices and accessories for the Japanese market for weeks or even months before they are released to the rest of the world.
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CAL7 said:
the biggest worry I have in this regard is the lack of U.S. sales, and hence, support. How much of a flagship device can it be without including the largest market?
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Largest smartphone markets (predicted for 2014):
Country - Annual sales
China - 283 million
India - 225 million
USA - 89 million
Distant third, dude. But at least you beat Russia in the ice hockey, there's a bit of national pride to cling on to.
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I was also quite irritated with Sony's choice to practically ignore the USA. Im also wondering why they hold back some devices and accessories for the Japanese market for weeks or even months before they are released to the rest of the world.
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Because Sony has always been a domestic brand (like many Japanese companies) but also with a large European arm for the majority of their products. Anything successful in both these markets will eventually find its way further afield.
Given their current financial state, you can hardly blame them for not wanting to take risks.
And let's not forget the US market for the average consumer is totally inaccessible with only one SKU per colour.
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Greeting, if anyone knows when it will be available to Android 5.0 for Xperia Z3?
Something was discussed, it should come this year or next (Q1/2015)... It would be good if Sony starts thinking forward about the new android L...
Or we'll get a new update on Z3, while out new Z4..
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Greeting, if anyone knows when it will be available to Android 5.0 for Xperia Z3?
Something was discussed, it should come this year or next (Q1/2015)... It would be good if Sony starts thinking forward about the new android L...
Or we'll get a new update on Z3, while out new Z4..
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Wait for Sony to announce their update roadmaps in the next few days
Probably we will all get in in Q1/2015
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http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
Bäcker said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/10...d-5-0-lollipop-to-the-entire-xperia-z-series/
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So that means we will get it 3 months from when the nexus devices get theirs. Its not fast update but its on par with other OEM's i guess.
Wow, Sony means xperia z will get android L update.... Fantastic!!!!
Good news. I will be holding onto my Nexus 5 until Christmas then, usually the carriers have devices on sale around then and also my upgrade fee will be less. SAWEEET!
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So that means we will get it 3 months from when the nexus devices get theirs. Its not fast update but its on par with other OEM's i guess.
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LOOL.... Nexus get out 6 of november, lollipop will land few days later on older nexus and GPE version of phone.
So it means sony have just one and half month to bring it to Z3 if they want to realease it for Z3 series, and you say its slow?
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HTC One (M7) - Android 5.0 Lollipop update in 90 days
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HTC One mini - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
HTC One mini 2 - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
Motorola have 4-5 phones, samsung few phones, lg 2 maybe and sony will update entire Z series.
This is briliant
Chance for better 3rd party camera apps?
Since several of the features in 5.0 look quite interesting for photography purposes, any guesses if these could be used for better 3rd party camera apps?
As seen on http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/ :
A range of new professional photography features for Android Lollipop that let you
Capture full resolution frames around 30 fps
Support raw formats like YUV and Bayer RAW
Control capture settings for the sensor, lens, and flash per individual frame
Capture metadata like noise models and optical information
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LOOL.... Nexus get out 6 of november, lollipop will land few days later on older nexus and GPE version of phone.
So it means sony have just one and half month to bring it to Z3 if they want to realease it for Z3 series, and you say its slow?
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HTC One mini 2 - Android 5.0 Lollipop update, schedule TBA
Motorola have 4-5 phones, samsung few phones, lg 2 maybe and sony will update entire Z series.
This is briliant
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Sony states 5.0 will be released beginning of 2015. So assuming its end of Jan or early Feb then it is 3 months from the release of 5.0 to nexus devices. This could be the time frame for all the other OEM's except motorola which might release it in december. I would call that fast. I knew this before buying the device so i am not really bothered about it.
At least they have announced an intention to update those phones. Unlike Samsung...
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Wow, I am positively surprised that even my Xperia tablet z will get official lollipop. I thought that Sony was supposed to be bad at updating. Compared to my old Asus I feel that I am treated like a princess.
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So will there be any changes for an update for Z3 to Lollipop? When I had a Samsung/HTC update to 4.0, there weren't any major changes. Will the Z3 be able to run ART with even better battery saving capabilities? Anyone know what features might be added? Im interested to know if there will be any major changes, or if I should just wait for a Z4/Nexus 6 that will have the latest features instead of getting a slimmed down update.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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So will there be any changes for an update for Z3 to Lollipop? When I had a Samsung/HTC update to 4.0, there weren't any major changes. Will the Z3 be able to run ART with even better battery saving capabilities? Anyone know what features might be added? Im interested to know if there will be any major changes, or if I should just wait for a Z4/Nexus 6 that will have the latest features instead of getting a slimmed down update.
Any help is appreciated. Thanks
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If I read it correctly ART is the default runtime in lollipop so yeah... Guess it'll be able to run ART. And nobody knows what the exact changes will be... only sony.
I'm pretty sure Z3 will get L in late Jan - early Feb
viking2.0 said:
Sony states 5.0 will be released beginning of 2015. So assuming its end of Jan or early Feb then it is 3 months from the release of 5.0 to nexus devices. This could be the time frame for all the other OEM's except motorola which might release it in december. I would call that fast. I knew this before buying the device so i am not really bothered about it.
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Aye, let the Nexus users be the guinea pigs and do the testing for us - hopefully by that time it will be bug free is the way I see it
rooting lollipop may need a custom kernel ? (according to chainfire) this will make bootloader unlock and drm issue all the more interesting hehe
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CandyAndy said:
Wow, I am positively surprised that even my Xperia tablet z will get official lollipop. I thought that Sony was supposed to be bad at updating. Compared to my old Asus I feel that I am treated like a princess.
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Ah, yes, but because of the frequency of new models being released, it's easy to forget that the Z and Tablet Z actually only came out about 18 months ago - so are pretty much within the '18 month' window of getting supported.
I actually don't want Android 5 / L before it has stabilized. KitKat needed 5 iterations to settle (remember all the connectivity issues up and including 4.4.3?!).
Hence, completly agree with zoomee, let Nexus users do some testing and Google do some fixes first
Meanwhile, the Z2 STILL doesn't have 4.4.4
When we are waiting for 23.0.1.A.0.167, Sony make another 4.4.4. FW for our Z2's...
Here is the link, check it : https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=24754
Meaning 0.167 is going to skip ?
Don't know what to say. D6503 and SGP521 has new certificate but D6502 has not...
atif_afzal said:
Meaning 0.167 is going to skip ?
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I think yes, If they test it and found some bugs, so give us another update...
El.Guaje said:
Don't know what to say. D6503 and SGP521 has new certificate but D6502 has not...
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Could be carrier specific and carrier doesn't support d6502?
From when z3 launched sony dont care about z2 enough and it really doesnt matter to sony , around a month all of us are waiting for new FW and now again we should wait another month
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dani010 said:
From when z3 launched sony dont care about z2 enough and it really doesnt matter to sony , around a month all of us are waiting for new FW and now again we should wait another month
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Well....they have found a bugs in that fw so they built fixed fw, certified it and it's in testing stage.
That will be (most likely) fw that will be released.
Would you be happier with fw full of bugs and errors or rather wait few more days for fw with less bugs and problems?
Lollipop will be out sooner then we all thought and that's something that I want as soon as possible, 4.4.4. is something we need but 5.00 is fw I can't wait to see...
Another 15 days or month!
Mazellat said:
I think yes, If they test it and found some bugs, so give us another update...
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So we suspect some new features. Faster UI and BEST Camera Software, etc
randymess said:
Another 15 days or month!
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No...it'll be out in a next few days...there's no chance they'll wait one whole month.
New firmware is tested, they fixed all bugs and they are doing finial testing.
It's quite obvious that testers found problems in first build, so they fixed that and certified another build.
That should be the one we'll receive...
Of course, it's always possible that they bump into serious problems and can't release this one too but I really doubt that...
This is now just polished version of first certified fw and that one should be good...
funky0308 said:
No...it'll be out in a next few days...there's no chance they'll wait one whole month.
New firmware is tested, they fixed all bugs and they are doing finial testing.
It's quite obvious that testers found problems in first build, so they fixed that and certified another build.
That should be the one we'll receive...
Of course, it's always possible that they bump into serious problems and can't release this one too but I really doubt that...
This is now just polished version of first certified fw and that one should be good...
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Or it could be a carrier specific build!
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zodiac100 said:
Or it could be a carrier specific build!
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I doubt but it could be, yeah...
Mazellat said:
When we are waiting for 23.0.1.A.0.167, Sony make another 4.4.4. FW for our Z2's...
Here is the link, check it : https://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=24754
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may be Lolipop's!... as far as I know PTCRB versions for certifications are for release versions... not internal. My assumption is either this is for a different market or an enhanced version. the 3.0.1.A.3 and 3.0.1.A.0 numbers - makes me think it could be an upgraded version.
on the other hand I see Z2 (just like Z Ultra) prices falling linearly - I suspect we will have this version as last but one in case it is 4.4.4 or if 5.0 then could be the end....!
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may be Lolipop's!... as far as I know PTCRB versions for certifications are for release versions... not internal. My assumption is either this is for a different market or an enhanced version. the 3.0.1.A.3 and 3.0.1.A.0 numbers - makes me think it could be an upgraded version.
on the other hand I see Z2 (just like Z Ultra) prices falling linearly - I suspect we will have this version as last but one in case it is 4.4.4 or if 5.0 then could be the end....!
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It's 4.4.4, that's for sure.
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on the other hand I see Z2 (just like Z Ultra) prices falling linearly - I suspect we will have this version as last but one in case it is 4.4.4 or if 5.0 then could be the end....!
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When the original Z is getting Lollipop what makes you think it's end of the road for Z2 updates?
I think it's for orange carrier they will update on November 15
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When the original Z is getting Lollipop what makes you think it's end of the road for Z2 updates?
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I think he mean it is the end of the Z and not Z2 because the Z2 have more ram and a better chip like a 2.3 ghz quadcore instead of 1.5 ghz, so let we all wait on 4.4.4 and next year on 5.0 and then we can talk further about any updates if we Z2 users already run as the 1st ones on 5.0 !
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Could be carrier specific and carrier doesn't support d6502?
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I think so, but it's a big jump over previous build.
if you look at curent market outlook, sony's losses and Samsung in re-planning, and Motorola out from google, i see that gameplan will change soon, and the support model and release cycles will have a great impact.
Supporting a model over 2 years is a huge cost if the chipsets and technology change with every model. Z2 an Z3 will not have impact for a year or so since chipsets are similar. but Z4 onwards I see there will be a shift in whole view of mobile devices since business is getting hit, Google is revamping its strategy. it will not be plain simple firmware upgrades every quarter anymore in my view. I may be wrong and I know people are just waiting for new firmware upgrades - as long as mobile works - and apps work I dont see a need of releasing a version unless there is major tuning or upgrade.
2 years lifecylce is good, but every 6 months firmware upgrade is something I doubt going forward after Lolipop
i cant wait anymore , i hope this FW rollout in next days
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
[edit] http://www.phonearena.com/news/No-Nougat-for-your-Android-phone-You-might-want-to-blame-Qualcomm_id84543
snailpon said:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
Sadly our device can't get Android N :crying:
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Well, just as I thought. I have some hope on developers here, but considering how little work has been done with AOSP and CM I can't expect too much
ridiculous they were teased with devolved Android n
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Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions
codeluca said:
Me too.. I will probably sell my D6603, Sony just disappointed me.
Anyway I'm open to suggestions
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Personaly I would go with OP3 or nexus devices. Good specs and developer friendly.
I like OP3 and Xiaomi mi5 but I would miss the SD card... I would consider Huawei P9 or LG G5, but these have poor developer support. Any alternative?
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Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.
Zox09 said:
Thank you Sony for making me absolutely sure that I'll never ever buy a Sony phone again.
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I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.
TheAvengingTITAN said:
I have hope for the community, we'll make it through with better sources and faster updates than what Sony had to offer us. Hopefully official Cyanogenmod comes our way.
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I would have hope if it wasn't for the fact that we don't have an official CM13 yet. All the builds of the CM12.1 are even nightlies and don't offer the audio and camera quality that Stock has. Let's be real, Sony sucks at open sourcing and the community can't do magic
Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.
iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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The Z3 is an really nice device. Sad to see that Sony say goodbye to us. I hope customs ROMS can help.
I have Android Nougat 7 Preview 4 running on my Xperia Z3 (and it spontaneously reboots 24 times a day which is a major problem that hopefully the real version will fix). I mean how can they NOT release a real version of Android Nougat?
Well the user base did come together and made Sony change their minds about Xperia M2 and lollipop update... At first it was cut out after which Sony later decided to roll out lollipop for that model...
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I think z3 shouldn't use mm or lollipop rom. Because the device will be very hot and it'll make touch screen died. I know someboby have to replace thier touch screen.
Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+
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Sure it sucks, but why is anyone surprised? The Z3 launched September of 2014, almost two years ago.
You really can't blame Sony, two years is pretty standard for updates. Even Google only gives two years of guaranteed updates for the Nexus line.
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Meanwhile, Apple released the last iOS 9.3.4 on the iPhone 4S, released in 2011.
Talk about standards. SMH.
kansasboy001 said:
Sony cant release N for z3. Google/ Qualcomm removed msm8974 support from aosp N kernel. Sony would have to revert these commits which is the legal issues that the concept Dec was talking my about on g+
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This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.
brianpee said:
This means no device with Snapdragon 800/801 will get N.
That's disappointing considering it was working fine on Dev Preview 3.
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I imagine it was a decision by Qualcomm to force people to get new phones so they sell more chips. And I bet we don't see and 801 devices get official N. Only 805 and later
moonwalker1 said:
iirc the concept developers are trying to release the kernel sources, which would allow the devs on xda to build better roms.
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That's mean if kernel sources is out, we can build Android 7 rom without Unlock Bootloader?