Will we get the lolipop? - Desire 816 General

Hi, HTC have unveiled devices that will got android 5 after 90 days which they are M7,8 and mini1,2 , will we get it as well as with these devices after 90 days ? Or we will be forgotten for late ( I know we will get but when?)
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The 816 will most likely get the Lollipop update sooner or later. But don't quote me on that.

FoxyDrew said:
The 816 will most likely get the Lollipop update sooner or later. But don't quote me on that.
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You rebel.

This isn't carved in stone but according to this article if we're waiting for HTC and/or carriers we'll have to wait until March or April for Lollipop. It looks like we'll also have to wait until then for the Eye Experience update. I know there are a few people that are going to be upset at that news. They were hoping the 4.4.4 update w/ Eye Experience would make waiting 4-5 months after Lollipop release a bit easier.
http://www.android.gs/htc-one-mini-2-and-desire-816-android-5-0-lollipop-update-will-reportedly-be-pushed-to-users-march-april/

sirrx7 said:
This isn't carved in stone but according to this article if we're waiting for HTC and/or carriers we'll have to wait until March or April for Lollipop. It looks like we'll also have to wait until then for the Eye Experience update. I know there are a few people that are going to be upset at that news. They were hoping the 4.4.4 update w/ Eye Experience would make waiting 4-5 months after Lollipop release a bit easier.
http://www.android.gs/htc-one-mini-2-and-desire-816-android-5-0-lollipop-update-will-reportedly-be-pushed-to-users-march-april/
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Didn't HTC say something about promising that the devices that were getting the update, would get them 90 days after the official release?

Yes but only HTC One M8

drummer1839 said:
Yes but only HTC One M8
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shady1971 said:
I hope so!!!!
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Lollipop is now confirmed for the HTC Desire 816.

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Lollipop is now confirmed for the HTC Desire 816.
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Arrgh. I just bought an HTC Desire 816 last week, so I'm not yet all that familiar with how it works. My question is, is there any way to PREVENT Lollipop from being installed on my phone? I've been reading a lot of messages about substantial problems even with 5.0.2. Admittedly, some people are happy with it, but others most definitely are not. I've decided to keep my Nexus 7 (2013) tablet on KitKat 4.4.4, even though I have a notification that 5.0.2 is ready to be installed. I'd hate to run into problems with my phone, especially since it's not rooted and isn't likely to be rooted. So do upgrades work the same on the HTC Desire 816 as they do on the Nexus 7, namely, I get a notification and can decide whether or not to install the upgrade, or is the upgrade simply installed without my permission?

CQueen816 said:
Arrgh. I just bought an HTC Desire 816 last week, so I'm not yet all that familiar with how it works. My question is, is there any way to PREVENT Lollipop from being installed on my phone? I've been reading a lot of messages about substantial problems even with 5.0.2. Admittedly, some people are happy with it, but others most definitely are not. I've decided to keep my Nexus 7 (2013) tablet on KitKat 4.4.4, even though I have a notification that 5.0.2 is ready to be installed. I'd hate to run into problems with my phone, especially since it's not rooted and isn't likely to be rooted. So do upgrades work the same on the HTC Desire 816 as they do on the Nexus 7, namely, I get a notification and can decide whether or not to install the upgrade, or is the upgrade simply installed without my permission?
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Funny you ask, as I also have a Nexus 7 2013 that I've kept on KitKat. However I did it because no Lollipop ROM's have anywhere near the amount of goodies as KitKat ROM's.
However that being said, the Desire 816 will NOT run stock Lollipop 5.0.2. In fact far from it. HTC will change stock Android around plenty (in fact they are currently, that's why the update is taking months) before they release it to our phones. Not to say everything will be ironed out, but most things. Plus Lollipop is still sort of new, so in the coming months a lot will be fixed with it.
Anyways to answer your question, yes, you can opt out of the Lollipop update on your phone just as you have with your Nexus 7.

ofcourse you are given the choice to install it or not. but it's not like it's right around the corner(the release for 816 is atleast a couple months later) and hopefully many bugs will be fixed until then

Thanks very much, FoxyDrew and seekfind, for your reassuring replies. I'm hoping that the version that HTC offers us will be relatively problem-free, in which case I'll install it, but I'm glad that 1) it's still months off and 2) I'll have a choice of whether or not to accept it.

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ofcourse you are given the choice to install it or not. but it's not like it's right around the corner(the release for 816 is atleast a couple months later) and hopefully many bugs will be fixed until then
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Thanks very much, FoxyDrew and seekfind, for your reassuring replies. I'm hoping that the version that HTC offers us will be relatively problem-free, in which case I'll install it, but I'm glad that 1) it's still months off and 2) I'll have a choice of whether or not to accept it.
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Actually it's planned for March-April so it could come as soon as next month.

We have to wait… u can see here
http://android-revolution-hd.blogspot.com/2015/01/htcs-android-lollipop-update-roadmap.html?m=1

So when the update IS released, do we need to run the RUU to return to stock to receive it or will it come through on an installed ROM?

colossus3974 said:
So when the update IS released, do we need to run the RUU to return to stock to receive it or will it come through on an installed ROM?
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You'll need to RUU, or flash a stock backup, flash the stock recovery, then lock the bootloader.

Sprint M7 has Lollipop
Is our Device more like an M7 or M8? according to HTC.com, the Sprint M7 has completed Lollipop integration/certification. We have Virgin Mobile, what's really the difference?) . Can the rom be ported with Sense 6? (CM12 is good, but missing the HTC Style, and too many bugs for me to go back to it).

jayblaze406 said:
Is our Device more like an M7 or M8? according to HTC.com, the Sprint M7 has completed Lollipop integration/certification. We have Virgin Mobile, what's really the difference?) . Can the rom be ported with Sense 6? (CM12 is good, but missing the HTC Style, and too many bugs for me to go back to it).
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Our device isn't the One 8 or the One 7. It's the Desire 816. Nothing like the other two hardware wise.
Anyways a port could be possible, but it would take a developer willing to do it. Most likely won't happen since were getting the update within a month or two.

FoxyDrew said:
Our device isn't the One 8 or the One 7. It's the Desire 816. Nothing like the other two hardware wise.
Anyways a port could be possible, but it would take a developer willing to do it. Most likely won't happen since were getting the update within a month or two.
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The Website says, "This Device is currently on Kit Kat." Our VM Desire 816 used to be in the "Evaluation" stage, then just dropped off the list of any indication of a Lollipop update. We shall see. Figured it would be easier to integrate Sense 6.

Im running CM 12 without any problems, but yes Kitkat has more goodies(I also have an N7 2013). I love Vanilla CM12 on the phonr though.

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Desire hd official 2.3 up date

Any news on 2.3 coming from HTC? Any leaks etc. Google is only bringing up news from 2 months ago.
Phones on voda UK any news or release times would be great. Thanks very much
Jp
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Sadly there is no news.
HTC have not released a statement saying if they will release Gingerbread for the DHD.
Obviously, with the DHD being their flagship handset, in Europe at least, an update should be due. Probably 2 months away though, HTC have to pollute it with Sense, carriers have to bloat & brand it. The Nexus One has yet to receive it, and there is no carrier branding.
If you really can't wait that long, install CM7.
Thanks for the info mate.
Well that's what I was thinking , being a flagship handset you would think they would try and get it out to compete fully with nexus s.
I am thinking about it however last time I rooted the h boot failed , ain't tried since.
Would like to keep to HTC as this is the second one iv had but the amount of problems iv had with this phone combined with slow up date times make it hard to not move to a I5 in the summer when its released.
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Sadly there is no news.
HTC have not released a statement saying if they will release Gingerbread for the DHD.
Obviously, with the DHD being their flagship handset, in Europe at least, an update should be due. Probably 2 months away though, HTC have to pollute it with Sense, carriers have to bloat & brand it. The Nexus One has yet to receive it, and there is no carrier branding.
If you really can't wait that long, install CM7.
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. If you is not a problem, would I could tell what is new in the use made CM7. It may sound stupid but one thing is what it says and the other is how it behaves in the use of ROM.
I am interested in particular video, how much fps is in full use?
Sorry I really don't know what you mean. Could you try to explain?
Someone really needs to Sticky a thread like this to stop everyone asking this

HTC Evo getting gingerbread from today .Is desire z that worthless phone ?

I really can't believe HTC .... They are giving a phone which is about a year older than desire z sense update and we are still on waiting list ... Were desire z sales really that ****ty for them that they are punishing us for buying it ?
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+1 ... Yet another time we HTC owners feel fooked over by the company... that promises updates on updates.. I had the Tattoo... no update, and i've had the SE Xperia Mini Pro... no Update... HTC promised Desire Z update within Q1 of 2011.. and look where we are.. Curses! And how come they speak in the media about Unlocking and open up for rooting on NEWER models..? They do not mention to unlock the phones they just locked with the latest update.. Only newer... Tragic!
The evo was a huge flagship device with a bunch of "first" promises look at it from another point of view, HTC is keeping good on the "first idea"
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If you want to look at it from a Marketing angle. EVO 4G came before G2. So YES, they will update that before us G2 / Desire Z owners. Got to look at the line up of what came before G2/Desire Z, THEN you see how far down the waiting list we are.
-Kiyo
I don't really see what the big deal is here...
Gingerbread is available to us through Custom ROMS.... For me, the developer support behind the DZ was one of the main reasons I decided to purchase it.
The EVO is a flagship device for HTC so I can understand why they decided to get it updated before the DZ/G2...
The official update will come, just give it time. In the meanwhile, try one of the many custom roms we have to choose from.
actually the update was confirmed to be in july for the desire z a while ago, so dont worry
I'm a little confused here too, but not by HTC's update schedule. I'm confused as to why a bunch of rooted users running some impressive dev ROMS would care about an official update. This is like getting a fully loaded pizza with anything and everything and looking longingly at the half-cold cheese pizza. Gingerbread 2.3 is already here for us and has been for a while. I figured the entire point of rooting was to enable a user to have the latest, most updated software ASAP.. and have a wide selection. I'll let the non-rooted mainstream worry about when the next official OTA drops.
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I'm a little confused here too, but not by HTC's update schedule. I'm confused as to why a bunch of rooted users running some impressive dev ROMS would care about an official update. This is like getting a fully loaded pizza with anything and everything and looking longingly at the half-cold cheese pizza. Gingerbread 2.3 is already here for us and has been for a while. I figured the entire point of rooting was to enable a user to have the latest, most updated software ASAP.. and have a wide selection. I'll let the non-rooted mainstream worry about when the next official OTA drops.
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* I'm just sayin......
HTC have said the update will arrive before the end of June, which still gives them a month before they break any promises.
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Guys its not about having leaked updates or devs making update for us .... Rule of thumb is that newer phone should get update before older phone .... Desire z was released a month or 2 after desire HD ... Yet they got official update a month back ... And now even an older phone like evo is getting update before ours . Getting official update means more stable bug free Rom along with its source code so that devs start working on it properly.... We haven't got that and apparently we will get that around start of July . That's a damn shame ....
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The EVO was pretty much the only decent Android phone on Sprint for a long time, while the markets with the DZ have had a choice of devices. And although Sprint is the #3 carrier in the US, they are still relatively large. And the US is probably HTC's largest market. Don't know the exact numbers of DZ users versus EVO, but it would seem from these factors that there are more EVO users than DZ users, and HTC has to prioritize somehow. That doesn't mean that the DZ is "useless".
Besides, latest promise from HTC is before the end of Q2 (end of June) for us to get the update. If they keep that promise, that's only a few weeks after the EVO gets it, at most. And it might be sooner.
http://pocketnow.com/android/htc-updates-desire-z-gingerbread-status-out-by-end-of-june
While I'm fairly annoyed that we seem to be last to get Gingerbread on our phones, its been quoted at Q2 for quite some time, so I hope to get it this month. Its more because I have some weird issues with the 1.72 software than features.
I can understand devs wanting to see the ROM as they probably want the official Kernel source, or apps like Sense out of it to cook into their own ROMs.
All said, is HTC actually working on Gingerbread for DZ? There has only been 1 very early leak compared to a "final" for the G2. Granted, they have Sense to test too but that was in March (28th ish)
Lets hope for delivery within the next 30 days.
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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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chill, bro. it's just a phone.
and no, us G2 owners have not received Gingerbread OTA... I'm not sure why any one here would care anyway, as most of us are already on Gingerbread. yeah, there will probably be some improvements with new source released, but you're blowing this a bit out of proportion.
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wasnt the G2 official OTA sent out? and i seriously think HTC have just one lazy ass developer working on Desire Z GB update.... cause desire HD got update one month ago and that was released 2 months before desire z...this is most definatley gonna be my last HTC phone... i aint gonna buy HTC devices any more . they just churn out newer model of cell phones every month and apparently just 6 month old is too old for them to even bother pushing out an update for it on time...
and about Evo. well after htc had the update finalized it has to be tested by sprint ppl before its sent out as OTA. and yet they got it before us. i mean seriously i am so damn pissed at HTC...
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Are you serious? There are so many other brands that are way worse than HTC about this kind of stuff. At least we're getting gingerbread at all. Other brands just leave their older phones in the dust after 6+ months if even that. I really don't think you'll be as happy with another brand of phone. HTC phones have the best development going on hands down too.
Seriously, what's with the HTC hate? The fragmented nature of Android is as much Google's fault as the manufacturers'. I for one think HTC is pretty awesome. When a huge corporation actually LISTENS to a small rooting/enthusiast community and unlocks their bootloaders, that's a good day. I see the benefit to having that official source code, but I'm running a 2.3 leak with LP+ and Spare Parts and it's so fast and smooth it's almost ridiculous. Again, why is it a big deal?? I have zero complaints and know the devs here can do some amazing stuff, with or without the official OTA source. It only gets even better from here.
Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
Or I might go with the nexus series atleast they get the updates quicker . But up till GB.... plain Android is very bland for my taste . I hope they really bring some slick UI for icecream . So that I can break my bond with sense and live happily with cyanogen mod
I like Windows phone too but I ain't ready to jump to it until the next major update after mango arrives .... To me its still not as polished as other OS even with mango .
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Are you serious? There are so many other brands that are way worse than HTC about this kind of stuff. At least we're getting gingerbread at all. Other brands just leave their older phones in the dust after 6+ months if even that. I really don't think you'll be as happy with another brand of phone. HTC phones have the best development going on hands down too.
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Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
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At least with HTC when HTC stop releasing updates, you have an excellent community where you can pick up unofficial updates. I have an O2 XDA Orbit 2 (Polaris) with Cyanogenmod 7.0.2 which I'm playing with.
I really like Sense, I also find stock Android bland, so I'll be waiting for official GB
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Well guys I was the biggest iPhone hater and HTC supporter you could ever think of . But now I'm seriously considering getting an iPhone after desire z . No matter how locked down the platform is at least they provide updates to all phones on time for 2 years atleast and your phone remains the best phone least a year ....
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How can an iPhone update not be "on time"? There is only one iPhone. So you can't have the same situation like this "EVO has the update, why don't we". Yes, they have older iPhone generations, but that doesn't really count, IMO, since they have only made incremental improvements to the phone, and no really significant changes. Pretty much the same phone every time, just slightly better CPU and memory specs each time, and cosmetic changes.
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I like Windows phone too but I ain't ready to jump to it until the next major update after mango arrives .... To me its still not as polished as other OS even with mango .
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WP7 is pretty much the worst of all worlds. Closed platform with hardly any apps. And incredibly poor sales indicate a very hard road for Microsoft at best. At worst, another dead phone OS from MS, with WP7 owners left out in the cold.
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Seriously, what's with the HTC hate? I for one think HTC is pretty awesome.
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Yeah, agree. HTC has finite resources, and can't update everyone all at one time. Just because they are a bit later updating one phone versus another, people flip out. You want to see awful update support, look at Samsung.

Whats so special on Nexus 4 updates?

So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
Thanks
zakazak said:
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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You could install whatever ROM on your Desire, but there is always the chance that something that doesn't work quite right; like BT not working, or WiFi broken or some other odds and end.
One thing I learned from owning Nexus's in the past is that many times you'll see that everything is 100% working more often than not. And that makes it worth it to me.
Never had any probs with Android Revolution HD or Cyanogenmod
I don't think it's easy to understand how good a Nexus is until you use one.
That is a reply I would expect from some apple fanboy
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Never had any probs with Android Revolution HD or Cyanogenmod
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But the Desire was a more "hacker friendly" device than others... follow the woes of getting CM9 (and 10) on the Galaxy S2 (I9100) or follow the drama that is the One X (AT&T.... root on the newest software version took forever; there is still no official bootloader unlock from HTC). The One X+ (on AT&T) might be the same... no ability to root or official unlocking of the bootloader for quite a while. The Verizon SGS 3 had its bootloader locked by Verizon (brilliant minds were able to bypass this, however..).
the moral of the story? the Nexus devices are able to have 1). quicker software updates because the carrier and phone manufacturer aren't involved and 2) can be rooted and bootloader unlocked right out of the box, ready to flash that custom rom that you always wanted.
that's not to say you can't have CM10 or any other custom rom on a phone that's not a Nexus, but anymore, restrictions and the refusal to release some bits of code, drivers, etc. from manufacturers can keep custom roms (at least ones built from AOSP) from functioning 100% on some devices (again, see I9100 development).
The nexus line gets the update on day 1.
Look how long it took to get cm 9 onto the contemporaries of the galaxy Nexus (gs2,g2x,sensation,etc...)
If you don't mind waiting 2-3 months, go for one of the other phones.
I've owned all of the above... And I'll never buy a non nexus again.
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I got a gs3 now and i am waiting for my gn4 to come soon.i doubt it will be anything special and to be honest i think it will lack many features sammy touchwiz roms offered.
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That is a reply I would expect from some apple fanboy
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It's good that I didn't waste my time explaining to someone like you then.
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I got a gs3 now and i am waiting for my gn4 to come soon.i doubt it will be anything special and to be honest i think it will lack many features sammy touchwiz roms offered.
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Why are you even buying the N4 then?
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zakazak said:
So I am currently thinking about which phone to buy:
Nexus 4, Galaxy S3, HTC One X+
Now, I would root pretty much every phone (just for the love of adblock). So why would I profit from the Nexus 4 in terms of software updates? I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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Depending on where you live, the N4 is the least expensive. So more money in your pocket.
I've used nearly every single Android phone T-Mobile has to offer including the HD2 (winmo 6.5) and as far as I can tell, imo... no device has ever ran aosp or cm as smooth and flawless as the Nexus devices I've owned. I've always has the least amount of problems with a Nexus device.
Also, I hate waiting months for updates, I prefer to have my phone updated with the latest software when it's released. If you never owned a Nexus before, I recommend getting one now, it's the best time and this is definitely the best Nexus of them all...obviously since it's newest, but you get my point.
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock.
While Nexus updates are awesome, keep in mind that Google has a pattern of discontinuing updates for its Nexus phones once they are two years old. Examples: Nexus One didn't get ICS (2 years after release) and Nexus S didn't get Jelly Bean 4.2 (again, 2 years after release). Galaxy Nexus is next in line.. I doubt it has anything to do with whether or not the hardware can support the new OS. Seems like it's just a rule they follow.
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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I could install whatever ROM I want on my HTC Desire HD?
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You would still indirectly profit due to the updates being 1) instant, rather than having to rely on leaks until the "official" oem release, 2) open; for example, samsung not releasing the exynos 4 sources led to cm10 being very buggy
zakazak said:
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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IIRC, you would not get OTA updates. But I'm currently on a Verizon GNex, so I don't think I've ever witnessed it asking me about a software update.
bttfpromo said:
IIRC, you would not get OTA updates. But I'm currently on a Verizon GNex, so I don't think I've ever witnessed it asking me about a software update.
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Could anyone confirm that? I would really want to root the phone.. and if that means I would have the same "update troubles" as with any other rooted/custom room device, then this would be a big minus point
zakazak said:
tbh, 2 years seems like a fine line for me... for ~300$
And also, after 2 years I expect the software to work so fine with my device that I wouldn't need future updates anymore (except their new features but who knows if someone will really need them).
still curious:
If I root the nexus 4, will i get orig. updates just as on an unrooted nexus 4 ?
Would like to root, remove random apps + install adblock
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As far as I know you will get OTA if rooted as long as you have stock rom and recovery, but I don't know for sure

Google Edition to get 4.3 OTA Update

So saw this on a tech news site I frequent, kind of jealous of them since I like Sense and will be sticking to ROMs based of that. But the 4.3 update will roll out for the Google Edition phones. At the very bottom of the article.
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Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play Editions will get the update soon, but no precise timeline was specified.
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The part with "no precise timeline was specified" makes me think of it like this:
Galaxy S4 and HTC One Google Play Editions will get the update eventually, since no precise timeline was specified.
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The part with "no precise timeline was specified" makes me think of it like this:
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Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.
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Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.
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I'd be willing to put my money on CyanogenMod or AOKP having 4.3 out first. However, the whole point of the Google Editions was to get an almost Nexus experience. If HTC takes more than two or three weeks, it's a complete fail.
I'm hoping to see it within a week, but I'm definitely not counting on it.
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Chances are one of the AOSP rom's will have 4.3 out before HTC release their's for the GE edition.
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AOSP will be 100% faster than HTC / Google to update the GE for sure.
I am really curious about the 4.3 AOSP update, maybe some 4.2.2 AOSP bugs will get ironed out automatically since it has a bunch of driver updates and a new bluetooth stack (read -> BT incall issues).
blackroseMD1 said:
I'd be willing to put my money on CyanogenMod or AOKP having 4.3 out first. However, the whole point of the Google Editions was to get an almost Nexus experience. If HTC takes more than two or three weeks, it's a complete fail.
I'm hoping to see it within a week, but I'm definitely not counting on it.
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Totally agree anything but a very fast update from both Samsung or HTC will only further piss off customers who brought it thinking they would get more timely updates.
Nice and easy if you want the fastest updates get a nexus or a custom rom nothing else comes close imho.
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Try4Ce said:
AOSP will be 100% faster than HTC / Google to update the GE for sure.
I am really curious about the 4.3 AOSP update, maybe some 4.2.2 AOSP bugs will get ironed out automatically since it has a bunch of driver updates and a new bluetooth stack (read -> BT incall issues).
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If it fixes all the little bugs from 4.2.2 with bluetooth (my car does not like my One whatsoever!) then I for one will be very happy with that.
Support the cm compiler cm10.2 (Android 4.3)
Yes, but the AOSP ROMs are going to be very buggy and I cannot stand a ROM that is not perfect.
I need my phone to be reliable. Not messed up with bugs.
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The Project said:
Yes, but the AOSP ROMs are going to be very buggy and I cannot stand a ROM that is not perfect.
I need my phone to be reliable. Not messed up with bugs.
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This. Even when we get 4.3 AOSP ROMs they won't be solid until HTC releases the 4.3 kernel source, correct?
yea but its clearly not receiving the nexus treatment
regP said:
This. Even when we get 4.3 AOSP ROMs they won't be solid until HTC releases the 4.3 kernel source, correct?
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Exactly. I want a stock 4.3 kernel that "just works" and I don't want to worry about problems. I don't mind waiting a few weeks for it. 4.3 isn't even a big update.
I have a Google Edition and paying $640 for a phone, you'd expect them to at least have some kind of announcement of when that will be rolled out. If it will take weeks, I can deal with that, but not knowing is not making me happy either.
I knew going into it that it wouldn't be instant, but I also didn't expect it to be a non-existent date like any other update.
I'm strictly speaking OTA btw, and not custom roms.
Argenist said:
I have a Google Edition and paying $640 for a phone, you'd expect them to at least have some kind of announcement of when that will be rolled out. If it will take weeks, I can deal with that, but not knowing is not making me happy either.
I knew going into it that it wouldn't be instant, but I also didn't expect it to be a non-existent date like any other update.
I'm strictly speaking OTA btw, and not custom roms.
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If even 1 "stablish" 4.3 ROM is released before the official OTA you know by then that HTC has failed.
I'm sure we'll get it soon :good: I emailed HTC and they gave a generic response (as expected). But we'll just have to hold tight.
Dear Brandon,
Thank you for contacting HTC Tech support.
I am really happy to hear you belong to the HTC Family.
We know that the 4.3 software version was already released and we enthusiatclly can say that Google editions will be getting this update first than other devices.
Here at HTC we no longer announce dates in which the update will hit the devices, but we invite you to stay tuned for upcoming news. You can access www.htc.com or follow us through Facebook and Twitter.
Brandon, once again let me congratulate you for your HTC One Google edition. I wish you a wonderful day!
Should you require further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact us through http://www.htc.com/us/contact/email/or call us at +1-866-449-8358 from 8AM to 1AM ET, 7 days a week.
Let me know if I have successfully answered your question, please click here to complete this.
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(HTC needs to invest in some spellcheck software)
killman2659 said:
If even 1 "stablish" 4.3 ROM is released before the official OTA you know by then that HTC has failed.
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+1
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bbedward said:
I'm sure we'll get it soon :good: I emailed HTC and they gave a generic response (as expected). But we'll just have to hold tight.
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At least they say that GE Ones will get 4.3 before Sense Ones. I assume it's less work for them given how similar the GE ROM is to the Nexus ROMs vs all the extra crap they have to update with Sense.
The question is how much HTC will prioritize the GE phones, given that it must be a small percentage of the Ones they sold (little do they know that quite a few of the "Sense" phones people bought have been converted to "GE" phones ).
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At least they say that GE Ones will get 4.3 before Sense Ones. I assume it's less work for them given how similar the GE ROM is to the Nexus ROMs vs all the extra crap they have to update with Sense.
The question is how much HTC will prioritize the GE phones, given that it must be a small percentage of the Ones they sold (little do they know that quite a few of the "Sense" phones people bought have been converted to "GE" phones ).
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If they are a serious company ... They check this site...they know
a box of kittens said:
If they are a serious company ... They check this site...they know
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Yeah, I was mostly kidding. My point is more that, while they probably know, they will act like they don't know (refuse to acknowledge or support converted phones).
Especially because they will have to make assumptions about the number of phones out there running Sense vs GE and will likely do that purely based on sales numbers (which don't take into account any converted phones).
The HTC One, will for sure be behind on updates considering the Nexus is the Google line. Nexus first then S4 then the One. Money market system.. we all know Apple and Samsung lead that pack.. HTC is behind Sammy. That's how I will see it coming.
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If even 1 "stablish" 4.3 ROM is released before the official OTA you know by then that HTC has failed.
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That's completely ridiculous. Even without having to adapt Sense or go through a kafka-esque certification process like Verizon certification, HTC still needs to perform integration testing before issuing the update. Any joe blow can hack together an untested build and put it out on the net.

EOL updates, will M8 GPE get N?

M8 GPE was released in Apr. 2014 with end of life is Apr. '16 for Android version updates. Is Marshmallow the final version?
"Google Play edition devices
Google Play edition devices get updates from the device manufacturers, not directly from Google. Google works closely with the manufacturers to provide system updates shortly after a new Android version is released.
When your device will get updates
After an update is available, it can take up to two weeks to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update.
How long your device will get updates
Google Play edition devices may not receive the latest version of Android if they fall outside of the update window, which is usually around 18 months after a device has been released."
lexi250 said:
M8 GPE was released in Apr. 2014 with end of life is Apr. '16 for Android version updates. Is Marshmallow the final version?
"Google Play edition devices
Google Play edition devices get updates from the device manufacturers, not directly from Google. Google works closely with the manufacturers to provide system updates shortly after a new Android version is released.
When your device will get updates
After an update is available, it can take up to two weeks to reach your device. Based on your carrier, it may take longer than two weeks after release to get an update.
How long your device will get updates
Google Play edition devices may not receive the latest version of Android if they fall outside of the update window, which is usually around 18 months after a device has been released."
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Probably not, seeing as to how the Sense M8 also stopped at Marshmallow. Doubt it'll be updated if the original one isn't supported anymore. Same thing happened with the M7 GPE.
I'm sure we'll get Sense 8(6.0.1) in the near future, but yes, as written above, everything stops at 6.0.1..
Imotep95 said:
I'm sure we'll get Sense 8(6.0.1) in the near future, but yes, as written above, everything stops at 6.0.1..
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u mean offical sense 8 by HTC ?
Xhemal1325 said:
u mean offical sense 8 by HTC ?
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Yes, football said on twitter, htc already had few m8 sense 8 6.0.1 insider builds...
Imotep95 said:
Yes, football said on twitter, htc already had few m8 sense 8 6.0.1 insider builds...
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Can you link the tweet?
Steve2016 said:
Can you link the tweet?
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It's true, but really - the difference is almost none, especially with the custom roms we got. After all sense 8 is really close to sense 7. Not to forget they officially released the launcher thus most of the s8 features(freestyle).
high_voltage said:
It's true, but really - the difference is almost none, especially with the custom roms we got. After all sense 8 is really close to sense 7. Not to forget they officially released the launcher thus most of the s8 features(freestyle).
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Sense 8 on HTC 10 is cleaner, lighter and faster than ever. we meaby can see that on our M8 too, do we got any date for this release ?
Xhemal1325 said:
Sense 8 on HTC 10 is cleaner, lighter and faster than ever. we meaby can see that on our M8 too, do we got any date for this release ?
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Don't you think that some of that faster part is due to the better SOC + cleaner perception due to the better screen? You can't compare OS running on SOC that got twice+ the speed of the sd801. M8 is still a great phone, but it's 2 years old in marked where things push fast forward.

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