Moto X issues - Nexus 6 General

So I've been thinking.. Some Moto X (2014) users have reported that their backs, whether wood, leather or plastic, have begun to peel, especially at the corners. Others have reported that the back doesn't fit perfectly with the device so there are small gaps.
To see the backs peeling, go to 3:35 on this video:
Judging from the pictures and render so far, it looks like the Nexus 6's back will probably be plastic.
Another issue that has come to my attention is the dimple on the Moto X (2014). Some users have reported that their dimples don't fit exactly into place and move around. Forward to 1:00:
Will the possibility of the back peeling or the dimple moving around deter anyone from buying this device?*
*Assuming that the Nexus 6 has the same type of dimple as the Moto X (2014)

As for what I have seen the dimple on the Nexus 6 is not the same on the 2014 Moto X, its all one piece dimpled into the back (just like the 2013 Moto X was). So I am not worried for that.
As for "Peeling". I am not sure. Again the back of this device looks more compared to the 2013 Moto X but larger and with the Flash Ring. The least we can hope for is that because there are not so many separate pieces to this back panel there will be less of a chance for pressure and potential "peeling".
In the end of the day however, I will likely case my N6 as soon as I can get one available. I like having my devices to be as indestructible as bricks.

I think the back of the Nexus 6 will be the soft touch plastic that people liked on the Nexus 5. It probably will be more durable. And as Dr Faustus (great name) said, the dimple is like on the 1st Gen Moto X, so there's no issue there.
Some of these issues with the Moto X I think will be ironed out if you wait a few months. There are often manufacturing issues with a new device that get worked out better later. Sometimes even minor design changes come later. I think it's a mistake to be the first to get a particular phone, you're just making yourself a guinea pig for the rest of us. There could be issues with the Nexus 6 too, when it first starts shipping. I wouldn't buy that straight away either.
That being said, I do like the dimple design on the Nexus 6 much better. The dimple on the 2nd Gen Moto X is just ugly. It's like cheap bling. It mars and otherwise nice design.

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Shame the MAXX will not get the attention it deserves.

Like most I was waiting for the Moto X, but that is no more. I just so happen to walk into a AT&T store the other day to check out the X, because I knew I would be getting one on Verizon. After playing with it for a bit I was impressed. Not because of the specs, but more for how it functioned, and the features. I compared the screens with my DNA, and could tell a difference, but it wasn't a deal breaker. The screen on the X still looked great!
Leaving AT&T I was convinced that the X was surely going to be my next phone in just a little over a week. I took a drive over to my local Verizon store to make a phone payment. When a walked in I noticed the nice display area showing off the new Droids. The MAXX/ULTRA/MINI were all staring at me, and almost seemed to be calling out to to me to come play with them. So I did just that! Remind you, I didn't do much reading up on these phones at all because the X had all my attention. Anyway, the phones... I didn't bother looking at the Mini due to size factor. On to the Ultra I go. When first picking it up, I thought it was nice, but quickly turned off by the back plastic, finger print magnet casing. It was horrible! I hate plastic feeling phones which collect prints, and oils from your hands. I always find myself wiping down the phone multiple times a day, but always becomes a losing battle. Sure, I can always toss on a case, but I like my phones naked! PASS!!!!!
Now, on to the MAXX. The moment picking it up, I thought WOW, this feels good! The weight of the phone felt amazing, and it felt soft to the touch. No plastic feeling BS here guys! This phone felt good! The Kevlar casing looked good too. This phone looked sexy in every way! Heck, even better than the X. After playing with the MAXX for a few minutes, and seeing that it does everything the X could do, I had to take it! Oh, and it's offered in a 32gb vs the 16gb on the X. Yes, I know the X will be offered in 32gb as a developer phone, but still, the MAXX was sexier!
Ok, so I can't make the MAXX look like it came out of a crayon box, but who cares! I left Verizon knowing I was leaving with the better phone hands down. I also know that the MAXX will never see the cool accessories, or anything near the attention the X will get, and that's a shame, because I truly believe it's the better version of the new Motorola lineup. I'm not talking about what it can do, because they all do, and offer the same features. I'm talking about feel alone makes the MAXX better.
After a few days with the MAXX, and I still feel the same way. First time buying a phone, and not care about rooting it, or even switching launchers. Battery life is just mind blowing! I went from having a charger at home, my car, and at the office, to just having 1 charger at home now. The MAXX is a power house when it comes to battery life. Touchless Control is flawless, and very responsive. The phone is a keeper that'll keep a smile on my face for a long time coming.
For those of you on Verizon, and plan on picking up the X, don't overlook the MAXX. Take a couple minutes, and check it out. You might be surprised, and do what I did... What X phone?
I have to agree, I went in with the usual list of phone in mind, ON, sgs4 and ultra, left with the maxx. It it a very nice phone. I dont think I was even this excited about my Gnex.
I agree also. Got my Maxx on launch day. Didn't wait to play with X first though, made my mind up over a few weeks before launch of Maxx.
I couldn't be happier. With weight, screen size, function and battery. This device is amazing.
I also find it hard to believe the Ultra has its own section and the Maxx is still waiting for one.
Oh well, sure it will come.
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I picked up a Mini and couldn't be happier. For me, I like the smaller size. Came from the Rezound and wanted something about the same feel. This whole line is pretty slick. The Moto X seems like a cute marketing play more than anything else.
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I'm switching employers and get to ditch a BlackBerry Curve for the phone/provider of my choice. Decided on Verizon since my personal cell is AT&T in order to maximize coverage. Was going to pick up an HTC One since I'd been envying it for months. But as soon as I started reading abut the Maxx I became intrigued. Picked it up a few days ago, and I agree that it's a shame that it's being overlooked.
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Pretty disappointed with the lack of conversation here on xda. Luckily there's a fair amount of it on androidcentral and androidforums.
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Finally got my Maxx in the mail yesterday. I'm coming from an iPhone 5 back to Android. Like many people I was sold on the Moto X but decided to give the Maxx a try. Glad I did, the ui is smooth and the phone is very responsive. I,m use to aosp and must admit this is the smoothest Android device I've own so far.
The battery is just another bonus. I'm putting it through its paces to see what results I get. Will try and post something up later. Glad to be back xda
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Finally got my Maxx in the mail yesterday. I'm coming from an iPhone 5 back to Android. Like many people I was sold on the Moto X but decided to give the Maxx a try. Glad I did, the ui is smooth and the phone is very responsive. I,m use to aosp and must admit this is the smoothest Android device I've own so far.
The battery is just another bonus. I'm putting it through its paces to see what results I get. Will try and post something up later. Glad to be back xda
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Bought mine a few days ago, battery is definitely a beast. Got 51 hours on battery. Over 4 hours screen on time. Probably 5 or 6 hours of music through Bluetooth. Random surfing the web, texts, email and calls.
I think some of the lack of coverage here on Xda is due to the name of the forum for this "phone". While there are 3/4 versions of the phone there is only one Heading (Motorola Droid Ultra). IMHO, I think the Motorola Droid Ultra forum would get more traffic it it was named "Motorola Droid Maxx/Ultra/Mini".
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I think some of the lack of coverage here on Xda is due to the name of the forum for this "phone". While there are 3/4 versions of the phone there is only one Heading (Motorola Droid Ultra). IMHO, I think the Motorola Droid Ultra forum would get more traffic it it was named "Motorola Droid Maxx/Ultra/Mini".
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Couldn't agree more. I would think by the amount of single threads started by interest people, and users of the Maxx, they would've just made a section for it. Why not keep it organized?
Cuz Maxx and Ultra are literally the exact same phone, except Maxx has 32 gb instead of 16, the larger battery, and the kevlar backing. It could still be labeled better, but from a development standpoint it doesn't need a separate forum.
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Cuz Maxx and Ultra are literally the exact same phone, except Maxx has 32 gb instead of 16, the larger battery, and the kevlar backing. It could still be labeled better, but from a development standpoint it doesn't need a separate forum.
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Not separate but add the name to the forum title would help some people find out this is where we are talking.
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I'm in agreement with most of you. Had to replace my broken slippery ass S4. So tired of plastic slippery phones. I consider the One, and while very nice, I hated the power button placement, the smaller battery, and wanted Active Notifications.
I was going to get the Moto X, but decided I would get the Maxx and return it if I didn't like it. Oh man, smooth as butter. Can't believe how smooth this phone is. I'm running stock, and really doing care that I can't ROM it. Root would be nice for a couple apps and tweaks, but really...I'm not too bothered not having it.
The Maxx is really the superior phones, especially when you consider the plastic finger print magnet ultra is only $50 less. I really think bigger battery and double storage space along with the Matte soft touch back is worth $50! :good:
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I'm in agreement with most of you. Had to replace my broken slippery ass S4. So tired of plastic slippery phones. I consider the One, and while very nice, I hated the power button placement, the smaller battery, and wanted Active Notifications.
I was going to get the Moto X, but decided I would get the Maxx and return it if I didn't like it. Oh man, smooth as butter. Can't believe how smooth this phone is. I'm running stock, and really doing care that I can't ROM it. Root would be nice for a couple apps and tweaks, but really...I'm not too bothered not having it.
The Maxx is really the superior phones, especially when you consider the plastic finger print magnet ultra is only $50 less. I really think bigger battery and double storage space along with the Matte soft touch back is worth $50! :good:
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I totally agree! It's awesome to be able to keep auto brightness on, sync on, and do whatever you want with your phone without worrying about the battery dieing. Some people are happy getting through a full day and have 10% left, but if an emergency ever popped up 10% wouldn't get you much.
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Cuz Maxx and Ultra are literally the exact same phone, except Maxx has 32 gb instead of 16, the larger battery, and the kevlar backing. It could still be labeled better, but from a development standpoint it doesn't need a separate forum.
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It also has wireless charging that the Ultra doesn't have. My sense is that more people will buy the Maxx than the ultra, so, if the forum needs to have only one name, call it the Droid Maxx.
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It also has wireless charging that the Ultra doesn't have. My sense is that more people will buy the Maxx than the ultra, so, if the forum needs to have only one name, call it the Droid Maxx.
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More of the cell knowledgable and tech people will definitely. I could however, see someone like my parents that don't need the extra storage, battery, or care about the wireless charger buying the thinner and cheaper Ultra.
Well both phones are on back order at the moment. Must have sold pretty well even if they just had a small batch.
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th3taman said:
More of the cell knowledgable and tech people will definitely. I could however, see someone like my parents that don't need the extra storage, battery, or care about the wireless charger buying the thinner and cheaper Ultra.
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No one should get the Ultra. The X is a better version of that.
The 2 things I don't love on the Maxx are the capacitive buttons and the 5" screen. Of course I don't have mine yet so it's speculation at this point but I feel like capacitive buttons are a step back from the more technologically advanced and cool looking on-screen buttons. And I feel like 5" is just too big. I thought that about my 4.3" G-Nex and 4.7" Razr HD though too so maybe it will be ok (hopefully).
Yes it is a great phone more than meet my needs
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No one should get the Ultra. The X is a better version of that.
The 2 things I don't love on the Maxx are the capacitive buttons and the 5" screen. Of course I don't have mine yet so it's speculation at this point but I feel like capacitive buttons are a step back from the more technologically advanced and cool looking on-screen buttons. And I feel like 5" is just too big. I thought that about my 4.3" G-Nex and 4.7" Razr HD though too so maybe it will be ok (hopefully).
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I actually prefer, in this case, the capacitive buttons because they don't take up any screen real estate. On the Moto X, the effective screen space for normal usage is close to 4.3" after those on-screen buttons. I've had an S4, so I'm used to 5" - so in the case of the Maxx I'm glad they're "off screen". The beauty of Android I guess... for all shapes and sizes!

Considering Z3, but......

Recently my N5's screen cracked after a fall. I love the N5, but couldn't justify spending $200 to fix a $400 phone. (In Australia. Not sure how much it is to fix in other countries). Besides, the GPS is near useless, even after the fix.
I considered getting the M8 due to the aluminium construction, but the massive bezels and weight really put me off. It has a 5inch display, yet is the same size as the Z3. Shame.
I really like the Moto X (2014), for its shape and size, but for its price here in Aus, $700, it isn't an upgrade from the N5, and the battery sucks. Maybe if it was <$600, I would seriously consider it.
The Droid Turbo is everything I want in a phone, but at over 11mm thick.......No thanks.
Then I noticed the Z3. It is perfect, especially in copper. It is the only phone that gets everything right. The battery life is fantastic, the screen looks brilliant, it has an SD card slot, the camera is great, it feels fantastic in the hand, front facing speakers, etc.......It just seems like the perfect handset.......until you hear about all the QC issues.
Screens cracking, waterproofing not working, very poor reception (in AU at least), chassis creaking noises when pressed, dodgy camera buttons, inconsistent screen calibration, inconsistent picture quality.
The reception issues alone are a massive put off. I was in the Telstra store today, the big one in the city, (Melb CBD), and the Z3 that was on display was bouncing between 4g, 3g and, surprisingly, 2g. It spent most of the time on 3g/2g and least time on 4g.
All this while my N5 was solidly on 4g with 3 bars the whole time.
Pretty piss poor. Especially considering that that store has its own in building cell, so it should have full 4G at all times.
I've noticed one person on this forum is onto his fourth handset!
What's going on?
Can any long term users put my mind at ease? Should I get this phone, or should I stay away?
Any input is greatly appreciated. I really want this phone, but these QC issues really leave a bad taste.
I am that guy with the 4th handset lol. Don't be put off, even many iPhone 6s are being returned to TMO, it happens as the device is new and sometimes there is a bad batch. TMO got dumped a bad batch, just go to store and check there if it has issues they will open another one and you can get a good one. Remember even the the HTC M7 had issues with purple cam etc and the G3 with cracks near the mic, for some batches, no company is immune. Mostly people with defects are vocal on forums and those without issues generally don't come on forums to praise so obviously on forums talk will be skewed towards the problems/defects.
Its a good phone, but if you think you may be careless the M8 is better as its more impact resistant as corners of LCD are protected by a much thicker metal frame.
Overall though the Z3 has better battery life, camera, and speakers are "almost" as good as the M8, and as you mentioned before its not as bulky. Waterproofing is also a plus.
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I am that guy with the 4th handset lol. Don't be put off, even many iPhone 6s are being returned to TMO, it happens as the device is new and sometimes there is a bad batch. TMO got dumped a bad batch, just go to store and check there if it has issues they will open another one and you can get a good one. Remember even the the HTC M7 had issues with purple cam etc and the G3 with cracks near the mic, for some batches, no company is immune. Mostly people with defects are vocal on forums and those without issues generally don't come on forums to praise so obviously on forums talk will be skewed towards the problems/defects.
Its a good phone, but if you think you may be careless the M8 is better as its more impact resistant as corners of LCD are protected by a much thicker metal frame.
Overall though the Z3 has better battery life, camera, and speakers are "almost" as good as the M8, and as you mentioned before its not as bulky. Waterproofing is also a plus.
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Very encouraging indeed. Im on my 7th day, 2nd phone replacement due to screen gap and some bugs. So far, im "ok" but not 100% yet, I hope ? everything's gonna be alright AFTER the 14th day(exchange/return period)
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I am that guy with the 4th handset lol. Don't be put off,.
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Your upbeat attitude towards this phone is very encouraging. Funnily enough just as you were posting this, another user on whirlpool (Australian based forum), reported another crack.
I might wait it out and see if they make changes to resolve these issues.
Has anyone else here come from the N5 or moto x 2014? Do you like the change?
cubic25 said:
Your upbeat attitude towards this phone is very encouraging. Funnily enough just as you were posting this, another user on whirlpool (Australian based forum), reported another crack.
I might wait it out and see if they make changes to resolve these issues.
Has anyone else here come from the N5 or moto x 2014? Do you like the change?
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I came from a G2 which is basically a Nexus 5+, its a good upgrade, though I still love the G2 as well. G2 (6-7Hrs SOT) gets pretty close battery life to the Z3 (7-8.5 Hrs SOT), but N5 (3-4Hrs SOT) and Moto X users will see a night and day difference in battery life as the Z3 is that much bettery in terms of battery life.
cubic25 said:
Recently my N5's screen cracked after a fall. I love the N5, but couldn't justify spending $200 to fix a $400 phone. (In Australia. Not sure how much it is to fix in other countries). Besides, the GPS is near useless, even after the fix.
I considered getting the M8 due to the aluminium construction, but the massive bezels and weight really put me off. It has a 5inch display, yet is the same size as the Z3. Shame.
I really like the Moto X (2014), for its shape and size, but for its price here in Aus, $700, it isn't an upgrade from the N5, and the battery sucks. Maybe if it was <$600, I would seriously consider it.
The Droid Turbo is everything I want in a phone, but at over 11mm thick.......No thanks.
Then I noticed the Z3. It is perfect, especially in copper. It is the only phone that gets everything right. The battery life is fantastic, the screen looks brilliant, it has an SD card slot, the camera is great, it feels fantastic in the hand, front facing speakers, etc.......It just seems like the perfect handset.......until you hear about all the QC issues.
Screens cracking, waterproofing not working, very poor reception (in AU at least), chassis creaking noises when pressed, dodgy camera buttons, inconsistent screen calibration, inconsistent picture quality.
The reception issues alone are a massive put off. I was in the Telstra store today, the big one in the city, (Melb CBD), and the Z3 that was on display was bouncing between 4g, 3g and, surprisingly, 2g. It spent most of the time on 3g/2g and least time on 4g.
All this while my N5 was solidly on 4g with 3 bars the whole time.
Pretty piss poor. Especially considering that that store has its own in building cell, so it should have full 4G at all times.
I've noticed one person on this forum is onto his fourth handset!
What's going on?
Can any long term users put my mind at ease? Should I get this phone, or should I stay away?
Any input is greatly appreciated. I really want this phone, but these QC issues really leave a bad taste.
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So I ordered my Sony Xperia Z3 this week after browsing the forums for some time. I was previously using the S5 which worked great, but I wanted a phone that was more stock and aesthetically pleasing. After careful consideration, I realized that I could do with the QC and ordered a white d6603 Xperia Z3 from eBay. It just arrived today and I have to say that it is perfect. I don't have any screen gap, pink lens, nor misshaped cover flaps. While you do read a lot about the problems, do consider that this is a small portion of the total consumers of the Z3 and it does not affect everyone. Currently, I've been using this phone for a day and have had only one problem. I activated google now for all screens and I get this camera message saying "Recording in progress in another app. Cannot record error." A simple google search fixed my problem as it seems there is a bug where google now will cause that message to pop up.
Overall, its a great phone. Although the camera is not as great as my previous S5, I can live with it. I just wish I had gotten the black because the white gets dirty pretty quick. I'd definitely recommend this.
Funny enough, when I sent in my first for a replacement I cancelled the online reorder as they had no stock. Ironically yesterday I get a notification that "your phone is one the way". I had to call T-Mobile and tell them to pull it out of UPS, otherwise I would now have a 5th phone as well lol.
I have now 3 EIPS that I have to pay because they still havent verified my returns, because apparently they are too busy handling a large number of defective iPhone 6s lol, according to a rep.
I have Z3 for 3 weeks now and it works perfect. No flaws in design too. Only thing I regret is that I did not get some other color. I got black, but it was the only option get here.
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Funny enough, when I sent in my first for a replacement I cancelled the online reorder as they had no stock. Ironically yesterday I get a notification that "your phone is one the way". I had to call T-Mobile and tell them to pull it out of UPS, otherwise I would now have a 5th phone as well lol.
I have now 3 EIPS that I have to pay because they still havent verified my returns, because apparently they are too busy handling a large number of defective iPhone 6s lol, according to a rep.
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So that's why my EIP didn't come off yet
You will find problems with every single phone. There are no perfect devices.
Buy the Z3 if you like it - if there is anything wrong with it, just replace it - that's why we have warranties, that's why we have consumer laws.
Really happy with my Z3:
"Screens cracking, waterproofing not working, very poor reception (in AU at least), chassis creaking noises when pressed, dodgy camera buttons, inconsistent screen calibration, inconsistent picture quality."
No cracks on mine, waterproofing works just fine, reception is at least 2 bars better than my iPhone 6 in most places, no noises, camera button works just fine.
Coming from a Nexus 5, I've spent a lot of time analyzing what would be my next Android phone. I considered the Moto X (2014) as well but what was turning me off was the battery life and camera performance though I love the feel of Motorola phones and their Android skin is the best this side of the Nexus phones. As my main gripes with my Nexus 5 were battery life and screen brightness outdoors (not the camera which I actually liked), I just can't go back to a poor performing battery so the Moto X is out.
I picked up a Z3 and had it for few days and I have to say the battery life was great and the screen was really bright so my two Nexus 5 issues were addressed.
I can't say I liked the performance of the speakers (no where near as good as my Z30) but definitely better than the Nexus 5. Camera performance didn't do much for the few indoor tests I did but I didn't try it enough to put it through its paces. I also can't say I liked the feel of the phone in my hand. I'm used to larger phones but it just didn't seem to fit right (again, not as nice as a Motorola phone or my Z30).
In the end, while 'technically' proficient, I just didn't 'love' it so I returned it. But in many aspects, I think it is one of the best Android phones you can buy right now as it does many things well, just not in a package that suits me. I can't see going for a HTC One M8 right now as there will be a new one in... what... 4 months? Not to mention that the battery life with the M8 wouldn't be as good as the Z3. Since an Android phone is a secondary phone for me, I can live with waiting a while longer before committing to something but if I had to buy today, I'd probably go with the Z3 despite my issues with it. Afterall, no phone is perfect.
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Coming from a Nexus 5, I've spent a lot of time analyzing what would be my next Android phone. I considered the Moto X (2014) as well but what was turning me off was the battery life and camera performance though I love the feel of Motorola phones and their Android skin is the best this side of the Nexus phones. As my main gripes with my Nexus 5 were battery life and screen brightness outdoors (not the camera which I actually liked), I just can't go back to a poor performing battery so the Moto X is out...
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This was exactly how I felt about the Z3, also coming from the Nexus 5. A lot of improvements coming from the Nexus 5, mainly the battery life and screen, but I think I expected a lot more from the camera. This is where it is weak.
So do you guys think the droid turbo, despite being 11mm thick, might feel better in the hand? I remember holding the z2 and instantly hating the way it felt. It was like holding a slab of glass. I thought the z3 would be better due to its thinness and curved edges.
EDIT: Watched a few more clips about the Droid. No one has mentioned how thick it is. In-fact, most commented on how nice it was to hold.
I think I am going to jump ship from the Z3 and get the Droid. I also like that it will be more drop resistant.
Thanks for the input from everyone. Greatly appreciated.
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For those that came from nexus 5, how is the performance of the z3 compared? Is it just as fast?
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For those that came from nexus 5, how is the performance of the z3 compared? Is it just as fast?
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It's faster than nexus 5.
Root and ubl could only increase the gap of performance
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For those that came from nexus 5, how is the performance of the z3 compared? Is it just as fast?
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I had a N5 and then M8. To me they are all around the same speed. You probably couldn't tell unless you did a side by side comparison
How is reception vs LG devices(N5/G2/G3)?
As good if not better than my LG G2, on par with my moms' IPhone 6.
cubic25 said:
Recently my N5's screen cracked after a fall. I love the N5, but couldn't justify spending $200 to fix a $400 phone. (In Australia. Not sure how much it is to fix in other countries). Besides, the GPS is near useless, even after the fix.
I considered getting the M8 due to the aluminium construction, but the massive bezels and weight really put me off. It has a 5inch display, yet is the same size as the Z3. Shame.
I really like the Moto X (2014), for its shape and size, but for its price here in Aus, $700, it isn't an upgrade from the N5, and the battery sucks. Maybe if it was <$600, I would seriously consider it.
The Droid Turbo is everything I want in a phone, but at over 11mm thick.......No thanks.
Then I noticed the Z3. It is perfect, especially in copper. It is the only phone that gets everything right. The battery life is fantastic, the screen looks brilliant, it has an SD card slot, the camera is great, it feels fantastic in the hand, front facing speakers, etc.......It just seems like the perfect handset.......until you hear about all the QC issues.
Screens cracking, waterproofing not working, very poor reception (in AU at least), chassis creaking noises when pressed, dodgy camera buttons, inconsistent screen calibration, inconsistent picture quality.
The reception issues alone are a massive put off. I was in the Telstra store today, the big one in the city, (Melb CBD), and the Z3 that was on display was bouncing between 4g, 3g and, surprisingly, 2g. It spent most of the time on 3g/2g and least time on 4g.
All this while my N5 was solidly on 4g with 3 bars the whole time.
Pretty piss poor. Especially considering that that store has its own in building cell, so it should have full 4G at all times.
I've noticed one person on this forum is onto his fourth handset!
What's going on?
Can any long term users put my mind at ease? Should I get this phone, or should I stay away?
Any input is greatly appreciated. I really want this phone, but these QC issues really leave a bad taste.
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The M8 betters my Z3 in almost every single aspect. And in a fall, i'd take the M8 any day. I made a mistake getting the Z3. It's a good phone, but the M8 it replaced walks all over it.
Don't expect good build with the Z3 because mine started perfect, but is slowly starting to creak shall we say...
As for speed, the M8 is faster, at most things, unlocking, scrolling, opening apps, camera etc etc.

Cheap Vibration touch feel

So I've used this phone for 5 minutes already and I can't stand the vibration on touch.
I had this issue on the OPO and OPO, the vibration on touch feeling was very cheap.
I've tested many phones like the Moto X 2nd Gen, N6, G4 and now Moto X Pure and all these phones had a very good vibration touch.
This one feels really cheap and annoying and I cringe every time I type.
Anyone else feel this way? Did I get a defective device or is this normal (I hope not)
I"m going to try sucking it up just to see if I like the camera and battery however if this is normal I think I'll be returning it.
I spent a lot of money (128) model and I did this thinking I won't need to find workarounds or sacrifice by disabling options.
Ugh I'm so annoyed.
I'm not sure if you got a defective unit or not but I love the haptic feedback on the N6P. Probably the best vibration motors I've felt on a phone (tried a few phones out: Nexus 5, HTC M8, Note 4, Nexus 6). I think the general consensus about the haptic feedback has been positive as well, but I could be wrong. Can you describe what you don't like about it?
It's very subtle but I like it
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I'm not sure if you got a defective unit or not but I love the haptic feedback on the N6P. Probably the best vibration motors I've felt on a phone (tried a few phones out: Nexus 5, HTC M8, Note 4, Nexus 6). I think the general consensus about the haptic feedback has been positive as well, but I could be wrong. Can you describe what you don't like about it?
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It feels cheap.
Like the whole phone vibrates in a weird cheap way.
I still have my Moto X Pure here and it has a stronger feel to it and it was the same on the N6, G4 and other phones i mentioned. I had my wife try it and she noticed it was cheap as well.
I'm going to try applying for a replacement because I'm loving almost everything else so this is really depressing.
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It feels cheap.
Like the whole phone vibrates in a weird cheap way.
I still have my Moto X Pure here and it has a stronger feel to it and it was the same on the N6, G4 and other phones i mentioned. I had my wife try it and she noticed it was cheap as well.
I'm going to try applying for a replacement because I'm loving almost everything else so this is really depressing.
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Yeah, that doesn't sound right at all; it may be a defective unit. I had the Nexus 6 and it was like that, strong but the whole phone rattled (which made it feel cheap). The Nexus 6P has a very solid subtle vibration (that's how I would describe it). There's a thread on reddit dedicated to haptic feedback and how people were praising it haha (https://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus6P/comments/3qsryc/the_best_feature_of_the_nexus_6p/)
Anyway, I hope everything works out with your replacement.
The vibration from the motor seems very... snug. Like all the surrounding components are very tightly fitted around so when a vibration occurs, nothing is rattling. It sounds, and feels, very clean.
Do any of you live in Minneapolis so I can test it out...
I'm going to call them tomorrow and see what options I get
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Anyone else coming from N5? How are you adjusting?

I'm coming from the Nexus 5 and I was worried about the size of the N6P. I went to best buy and messed with the iPhone 6s plus to get a feel for the size and it didn't seem too bad but now that I got it, it seems bigger even though they are pretty much the same. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet but its gonna take some adjusting.
Anyone got any stories of how they been adjusting? No more one handed use for me.. Well for some things I probably can still use one hand but for a lot of things.. Not soo much.
Yes I just came from the n5. The first 5 days honestly I didn't like this phone. It's just too damn big. But now I'm starting to love it. I swore for 2 years I would not use these huge phones but I might be coming around.
I skipped the N6, had to jump on the 6P though. I adjusted fine. This was after doing nothing but crying about just wanting an N5 refresh. After looking at the 5X and 6P the decision was easy.
My N5 looks so small in my hand now. All that needs to happen now is that jeans front pockets are made maybe an inch or two deeper. No I don't wear skinny jeans. And I'm about 6'2" so I haven't had much problem with the size, just a muscle memory adjustment like every other new phone.
Also hate cases and screen protectors, using it naked. Loving it.
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I skipped the N6, had to jump on the 6P though. I adjusted fine. This was after doing nothing but crying about just wanting an N5 refresh. After looking at the 5X and 6P the decision was easy.
My N5 looks so small in my hand now. All that needs to happen now is that jeans front pockets are made maybe an inch or two deeper. No I don't wear skinny jeans. And I'm about 6'2" so I haven't had much problem with the size, just a muscle memory adjustment like every other new phone.
Also hate cases and screen protectors, using it naked. Loving it.
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Yeah I'm the same way. I skipped the N6 and even when they were announced I was like no that's too big and I always just wanted a 5 refresh but something about the 6P caught my attention at some point.
I prefer cases and screen protectors though lol
I used both my N6 and N5 and originally was going to upgrade the N5 to the N5X. I didn't like the memory options of the N5X and got the N6P instead. I was really becoming uncomfortable with the N5 due to its feeling too small compared to the N6, which is my primary phone. Now with the N6P I can move easily between the two.
2 years with my Nexus 5. Almost a week with My Nexus 6p. Love it. Now when I pick up my Nexus 5. It seem so small lol.
Picked up my N5 yesterday after a week with the 6P and it felt wrong. Far too small and bulky. Only thing I would have changed it to move the volume buttons up higher as you can nudge them reaching across to press the far side of the screen. Other than that I can't fault its size or feel.
I used the N5 for a whole year. Then I got the N6, and I adjusted fine, but I missed the perfect size of the N5. Now I got the N6P, and it's much better in the hand than the N6, so no problems here, I'm loving this phone!
Less than a week with 6P, and adjusting. Love it!
Pickup the 5 (using it now) Love it!
Need a case with a SIM cutout...
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Came from a N5 after skipping N6 and only took a few hours to get used to the 6P. Phone is great but had to tweak resolution as, like the N5, text was too big. Now running 500 instead of default of 560.
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I'm coming from the Nexus 5 and I was worried about the size of the N6P. I went to best buy and messed with the iPhone 6s plus to get a feel for the size and it didn't seem too bad but now that I got it, it seems bigger even though they are pretty much the same. Maybe I'm just not used to it yet but its gonna take some adjusting.
Anyone got any stories of how they been adjusting? No more one handed use for me.. Well for some things I probably can still use one hand but for a lot of things.. Not soo much.
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The phones sizes are now becoming like TV. When you move from 32 inch to 55 inch screen for the first couple of days it looks so big. And after a while you feel like, damn I should have gotten the 65 inch instead. Same will be true for the big screen smartphone. At first it looks to big, bulky, and ugly. After getting used to, once you'll hold back the Nexus 5, you'll feel like you are holding a baby and you'll quickly look for your Nexus 6P [emoji4]
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I finally made up my mind on an Android Wear Watch! Which did you go with and why?

Hello,
So I was in the market for a new watch. I figured that if I am going to go out and buy a watch, I may as well go with a smartwatch. I want it solely to show me what time it is and for notifications. (Phone Calls and Text Messages mainly) So I could care less about a heart rate sensor. Here are all of the watches that I have considered, but decided against for various reasons:
Asus Zenwatch 2: This was originally what I wanted to get, until I went and looked at it at Best Buy. I can't stand the bezels. If the watch face was all display, I would have one on my wrist right now.
Moto 360 1st Gen: Then I looked at this, as it was $150 from Motorola for the model I liked. (Champagne w/ brown leather) The dated processor and smaller battery turned me away.
Moto 360 2nd Gen: I do like this overall, however by the time I get it the way I want, I can just buy a Huawei watch for the same price. (Dodging the flat tire LCD for an AMOLED)
LG Watch Urbane: I have mixed feelings about this one. I'm not crazy about the overall design and I have heard numerous reports of screen burn in.
Huawei Watch: I like this watch overall. However, I feel a 2nd Gen is right around the corner, and the price is a bit high.
Tag Heuer Connected: I really like this one! I do not like its $1500 price tag though....
Samsung Gear S2 Classic: I feel this watch is PERFECT for me. I love the design and the rotating bezel! I was super bummed to find out the display size and that it wasn't running Android Wear though....
This brings me to my last choice, and the one that I ended up ordering: The Fossil Q Founder.
I really do like the design of the watch itself! I feel it looks quite nice. I prefer leather bands, so the fact that it accepts pretty much any 22mm watch band is a big plus. (I wont wear metal bands) I also feel the Fossil Q is a better investment, which played a big part in my decision. The Intel Atom processor, 1GB of ram, and internal speaker make it seem more future proof to me. The 400mah battery should be sufficient for a full day of use. I expected to have to charge whichever watch I ended up getting nightly. The only downfall to the Q in my opinion is the infamous flat tire on the display. I can live with it though. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have a Fossil Q Founder with the Huawei Watch Display. It is what it is though.
After reviewing pretty much every Android Wear watch, I found that none of them are perfect. There are pros and cons to all of them really. Even the Tag Heuer Connected, although I feel its only con is its price tag. lol. With very similar hardware and pretty much identical software I guess it comes down to personal preference of aesthetics ultimately. I like the design of the Fossil Q. The fact that it is a little better specd than others as well is what ultimately made me decide to get it.
I will update more when I get it. I am also going to (very carefully) pop the bottom off to see if I can find out which Intel Atom processor it is running exactly.
So what Android Wear watch did you go with and why?
xx
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I stopped wearing watches a few years ago as the bulk on my wrist started to annoy me and my phone told me the time so it seemed pointless. A few months ago the vibrate on my M8 stopped working, and as it was out of warranty and considerably hacked in the software department, I was kinda stuck until I can upgrade. I found myself missing notifications and calls and got pretty annoyed about it. I was holding out for the zenwatch 2 as it was cheap enough that if I didn't get on with it, it wouldn't be such a loss money-wise. However, it had limited availability and I didn't want to wait any longer as I would end up just waiting for the next better watch. I found a decent discount for the urbane and went for it. I always had chunky metal watches before (my last was a casio g-shock GW-1210U which I loved dearly, so I figured if I could change the band on the urbane to a nice metal one it wouldn't be much different. The Urbane is actually thinner than my old G-shock. Anyway, I love my urbane. Battery life is great, display is nice and it feels like a quality item. My only real issue with it is that it does lag sometimes, but I was expecting that so it doesn't put me off too much.
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Nice! I did look at the LG Urbane. Amazon has it right now for $250 brand new. So it was tempting. Especially being it has an AMOLED display with no flat tire. I just felt for $25 more dollars I am getting a slightly larger display, double the ram, and future speaker support. Personally, I like the design of the fossil more as well.
Zenwatch 2. I love it. Honestly, the software is all the same, and hardware to mostly. Zenwatch is more affordable meaning when gen 2 or 3 watches come out, you can put that extra money to get those.

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