Do you think there will be a Nexus 5 (2014) refresh? - Nexus 6 General

I think there's gonna be a 2014 refresh of the nexus 5. The Nexus 6 for the phablet market, whereas the new Nexus 5 for the rest of the market.

I doubt it. You want a refresh get a Moto X 2014.
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In an ideal world yes, and I'd jump at the chance of getting an upgraded N5 over the N6, but I doubt it's going to happen.
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I would prefer a refresh over the more expensive Nexus 6, and a cheaper price.
I want a refresh.
But do I think there will be? No.

I wish.
I seriously doubt that Google will release another Nexus phone this year,
after all Google hasn't lowered the price of Nexus 5 like they've done last year so they've no intentions to stop selling it.

It would be nice if they released a decently priced/sized phone with Verizon support.

No refresh but what is wrong with the current Nexus 5. Appears they will offer it in new colors this year. The specs of the 5 are still fine...
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chipstien said:
No refresh but what is wrong with the current Nexus 5. Appears they will offer it in new colors this year. The specs of the 5 are still fine...
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Battery life is atrocious. So no, the specs are not fine!

I haven't ran the final release of Lollipop to confirm that the claim of 30% battery life increase is bogus. And coupled to the fact that my Nexus 5 made it through the day just fine before.....
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funkyblue04 said:
Battery life is atrocious. So no, the specs are not fine!
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Untrue, I get between 4-5 hours of use from my Nexus 5(Using faux kernel), and over 24 hours from a charge. I was hard pressed to get over 3 1/2 hours of use(Screen on time) from my galaxy s4.
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Jonnyredcorn said:
Untrue, I get between 4-5 hours of use from my Nexus 5(Using faux kernel), and over 24 hours from a charge. I was hard pressed to get over 3 1/2 hours of use(Screen on time) from my galaxy s4.
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I've never seen that much SOT with heavy usage. I;ve never had more than 3 hours and yes, I am using a kernal and stopped all apps that were causing wavelocks.
It's also 2014 we need a better phone with a better battery that is not a brick. Wish the Droid Turbo had a Pure and International Edition. American's and their weird Mobile bands!

I don't think they will because there wouldn't be much of a point. Tech hasn't advanced much since it came out... The most you'd see is a jump from 800 to the 805. Not a whole lot of difference with the exception of some efficiency.
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funkyblue04 said:
I've never seen that much SOT with heavy usage. I;ve never had more than 3 hours and yes, I am using a kernal and stopped all apps that were causing wavelocks.
It's also 2014 we need a better phone with a better battery that is not a brick. Wish the Droid Turbo had a Pure and International Edition. American's and their weird Mobile bands!
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Look at some of my posts from a while back... I was getting average 6 hours SoT... Highest was 7. It takes a lot of tweaking, but it CAN be done.

tkoreaper said:
I don't think they will because there wouldn't be much of a point. Tech hasn't advanced much since it came out... The most you'd see is a jump from 800 to the 805. Not a whole lot of difference with the exception of some efficiency.
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Look at some of my posts from a while back... I was getting average 6 hours SoT... Highest was 7. It takes a lot of tweaking, but it CAN be done.
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What except steps give you this magical amount of SOT?

I highly doubt it.

Jonnyredcorn said:
Untrue, I get between 4-5 hours of use from my Nexus 5(Using faux kernel), and over 24 hours from a charge. I was hard pressed to get over 3 1/2 hours of use(Screen on time) from my galaxy s4.
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Tell this to my LG G2.. !!!

funkyblue04 said:
What except steps give you this magical amount of SOT?
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I've since moved on to the M8 so I don't know the exact specifics, but I do remember some things.
Faux kernel is what I used, like the user above used. There's a lot of features to that kernel that push your batter to the max. My particular N5 was capable of a stable -85mV voltage underclock and it probably could have gone a little bit further. I also used 3rd party apps to control the brightness of the screen... you could teach it what brightness levels to use under certain light situations.

I'm sure there will be many Google Play Edition devices soon.

I doubt it. Besides refreshing crap still makes it crap. Sorry but the Nexus 5 was a terrible device hardware wise. Too many compromises leading to a lot of shortcomings.

Nope
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chancy319 said:
I doubt it. Besides refreshing crap still makes it crap. Sorry but the Nexus 5 was a terrible device hardware wise. Too many compromises leading to a lot of shortcomings.
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What was crap about the Nexus 5 (besides battery and possibly the camera)? It had some of the best specs of it's time for an amazing price.

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[Q] Is this horrible!?!?

i have a verizon version of the LG G2 and compared it to my moms 4s battery running iOS7
heres the deal her battery usage is like 3hrs 7mins mine is 6hrs 23mins mines at 2% hers is at 51% we both unplugged the same time so this means im getting the same battery life as a 4s running iOS 7 plus she keeps her data and everything on i turn mine off when not in use... so did i get a defective battery? cause if my battery is the same as a 4s running iOS7 im not gonna be a happy person i know i should get at least 15-16+hrs of battery use and still have like 20-30% left! UGHH and my phone reboots into the verizon logo alot when i unlock it i think i got a horribly manufactured g2... just my luck what do you guys think?
It feels like i have the original droid razr battery life agian Dx my razr m lasted longer!
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i have a verizon version of the LG G2 and compared it to my moms 4s battery running iOS7
heres the deal her battery usage is like 3hrs 7mins mine is 6hrs 23mins mines at 2% hers is at 51% we both unplugged the same time so this means im getting the same battery life as a 4s running iOS 7 plus she keeps her data and everything on i turn mine off when not in use... so did i get a defective battery? cause if my battery is the same as a 4s running iOS7 im not gonna be a happy person i know i should get at least 15-16+hrs of battery use and still have like 20-30% left! UGHH and my phone reboots into the verizon logo alot when i unlock it i think i got a horribly manufactured g2... just my luck what do you guys think?
It feels like i have the original droid razr battery life agian Dx my razr m lasted longer!
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I'd probably say something isn't right there yes.
I had 7 hours screen on time (50% brightness) and 30 hours of battery used, and still had 10% left as well.
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I'd probably say something isn't right there yes.
I had 7 hours screen on time (50% brightness) and 30 hours of battery used, and still had 10% left as well.
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it would only make sense i mean this phone is supposed to withstand HEAVY abuse i shouldnt have to worry about it dying in the first place should i?
Some identical usage? Can't compare two phones with different usage.
And if yours is 6hrs and hers is 3hrs, and her percentage is still 50%, then usage time is almost the same.
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iPwnAndroid said:
it would only make sense i mean this phone is supposed to withstand HEAVY abuse i shouldnt have to worry about it dying in the first place should i?
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Everything dies over time. Is not infinite battery life in this phone.
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Some identical usage? Can't compare two phones with different usage.
And if yours is 6hrs and hers is 3hrs, and her percentage is still 50%, then usage time is almost the same.
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Everything dies over time. Is not infinite battery life in this phone.
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im aware but i only turn wifi and data on when i need it which was barely any time... i understand its not going to last forever but i expect it to last me all day with 3000mAH haha im not a noob i played games for 15 mins she played games for 45 with constant 4g my phone lasted from 6:30am to 4:30pm
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Some identical usage? Can't compare two phones with different usage.
And if yours is 6hrs and hers is 3hrs, and her percentage is still 50%, then usage time is almost the same.
LG G2
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Everything dies over time. Is not infinite battery life in this phone.
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Also keep in mine we're comparing a 1432mAH battery to a 3000mAH even with different usage the g2 should outlast the iphone 4s...
2 threads in 2 days asking the same question? You notice the slew of existing battery threads when you searched? How about the ones with real data and fewer vagaries?
You're NOT a noob...well maybe...but you certainly know you're not happy.
Exchange the darn thing and move on.
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Also keep in mine we're comparing a 1432mAH battery to a 3000mAH even with different usage the g2 should outlast the iphone 4s...
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Different demands from different os's. Different types and sizes of screens. Different types of cpus.
LTE on one and no LTE on the other.
It's say they seem to be totally different phones.
My battery lasts a long time and I use it a lot. More than the average user.
And seeing you just registered and your username, stick with iPhones.
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20degrees said:
Different demands from different os's. Different types and sizes of screens. Different types of cpus.
LTE on one and no LTE on the other.
It's say they seem to be totally different phones.
My battery lasts a long time and I use it a lot. More than the average user.
And seeing you just registered and your username, stick with iPhones.
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pwn refers to own... i own androids... i hate iphones and dispise their OS... im quite aware of the different processors and os im not stupid but its completely besides the question... im just trying to get reasurance that i need to take it back or if the battery is fine and you guys are dogging on me for comparing it to a 4s...
I need to make sure my point is valid enough to take back to verizon because their customer service is stubborn...
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2 threads in 2 days asking the same question? You notice the slew of existing battery threads when you searched? How about the ones with real data and fewer vagaries?
You're NOT a noob...well maybe...but you certainly know you're not happy.
Exchange the darn thing and move on.
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Yes but everyones devices are different this thread is pertaining to MY battery life and i am happy with the g2 it just has manufacture defects im trying to get straight... noone checks old threads and this is why i posted a new one if your not going to awnser the question pertaining to the thread and critisize me for what i post please dont click the reply button
Try gsam battery monitor to see if something specific is draining your battery without you knowing.
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Try gsam battery monitor to see if something specific is draining your battery without you knowing.
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good suggestion m8
You've only had the phone, what, three days? Take it, all the accessories, and packaging to a CORPORATE store (basically, the stores with the real phones, not dummies) and tell them it's fkd and you want to exchange it for same. You've got a 14 day grace period.
Quit wringing your hands and do something about it.
I can tell you now that your mom's iPhone is not reporting back correctly. My iPhone 5 on Verizon does the same thing. Reports that I have high "usage" and i know for a fact that I didn't use it that much. Makes my battery seem like it rocks, for what it is. It's iOS' interpretation of 'usage' that's not giving you and apples to apples comparison.
Not sure what you are talking about. I've never had problems exchanging phones with verizon. I bought a GS3 last year and they only had 16gb so a few weeks later I went in and replaced it with a 32gb no problems.

Oppo Find 5 vs Nexus 5

I have the Oppo Find 5 (since int'l launch), just got my Nexus 5 as well
One major difference is the battery life
(If you search for battery life reviews of Nexus 5 online, people say it's a mixed bag: great idle battery life, so-so battery life when screen-on)
I agree with the above statement: my Nexus 5 is sipping battery when idle, find5 doesn't. still have to use it a little more to see screen-on usage
display wise, hard to tell in a normal room. Both are using a JDI-manufactured panel, same good viewing angles, looks great to me... some people complains about N5 being a little worse, i don't really see much difference
EDIT: at extreme angles, like almost completely eye-level, nexus 5 washes out... but it's definitely not noticeable unless you hold it at like 5 degrees... the Xperia Z that I've seen washes out way before (like 50 degrees)
EDIT2: oppo find5's display is definitely superior... but the nexus 5 doesn't distract me unless I put it on full brightness and look at it at a diagonal angle​LMK other questions you have.. I'm still testing the nexus 5 for now, probably will sell my find 5
Try codefirex rom for the find 5 with the new kernel, youll be amazed with the battery life. For me enough reason not to switch to the nexus 5, besides camera and speaker which are better on the find 5. So my question is: why would you switch? The additional 10% performane?
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I'm in the same position as you, paperWastage. Got my Find 5 in June and bought the Nexus 5 on the first day because I was too curious about it. Now I have two perfectly fine phones, and I can't decide which one to keep. My Find 5 never gave me any trouble, and with Maxwen's AOKP based ROM running it's a pleasure to use. The Nexus 5 on the other hand is much less heavy, and while it's a really nice phone as well I can't find a killer feature that makes me want to switch instantly.
So for now I'm using two phones - the Find 5 as my main phone, and the Nexus 5 for casual reading, navigation and geocaching. I hope I will have made by mind up during the next weeks about which phone has to go ...
boertjeg said:
Try codefirex rom for the find 5 with the new kernel, youll be amazed with the battery life. For me enough reason not to switch to the nexus 5, besides camera and speaker which are better on the find 5. So my question is: why would you switch? The additional 10% performane?
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I have been using maxwen's kernel (Undervolt + underclock)+ AOKP... still can't get decent idle battery usage
-overnight, 8 hours with the same settings (sync on with data, no wifi), nexus 5 dropped less than 4%. oppo find 5 will drop more than 12%
I don't really like the camera performance on the find 5. speaker, both are good enough for now
and my oppo find 5 is only 16GB (only 16GB available during launch), got a 32GB nexus 5
one major reason for me getting oppo find 5 was that I can use it on AT&T on medianet/without data. Now, I've switched to t-mobile, so I have more choices
let me try codefirex....
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reason why I'm leaning towards nexus 5, that the find5 is lacking
better battery life technologies (snapdragon 800, power envelope, GRAM)
better dev community, which would lead to more stable releases
Does cfxe have the theme engine now? That was one of the things that turned me off. It was a little too aosp for me.
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I am downloading cfxe right meow.
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It has the theme engine, as for dev community i think you're more than right but I wouldnt dare saying the find 5 devs are just average. I'm curious, when using the n5 normally (wifi on, 3g etc) how many screen on hours do you get out of it?
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It has the theme engine, as for dev community i think you're more than right but I wouldnt dare saying the find 5 devs are just average. I'm curious, when using the n5 normally (wifi on, 3g etc) how many screen on hours do you get out of it?
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haven't had it enough to estimate screen-on hours (other people say 4-7 hours?)
but a major difference to me is definitely idle life. the find5 sucks too much power during idle during the work day, so I only get 2 hours screen-on(+6-12 hours idle) before needing to charge
I'm talking about more nexus5 devs than find5 devs... you just get more choices (of ROMs, kernels) at the end of the process
I thought about changing after seeing the lack of dev support for the find5 and seeing how much the n4 got, but with the great work being done by maxwen/omni team/cfxc It's proving to be a great phone, but if they moved on, I guess I'd move on too.
played around enough to get an estimate about battery life
for screen-on, I feel the nexus 5 is roughly the same / slightly better... 300-700 mAh current draw (18-30%/hour) when browsing... so 3-5 hours screen-on for my usage, which is similar to the range I can get on the find 5. (some people can get 6-7 hours.. I assume they don't stress/demand the CPU as much as I do, keeping it around 200-300mAh, which would last 7 hours (300mAh * 7 = 2100~ battery size) <- If I just do plain video watching on nexus 5 at brightness level 2-3 out of 10, I use around 200-300mAh
the nexus 5 just outshines the find 5 for idle battery usage.
(each bulletpoint = independent data point about my usage after charging to 100%). GPS off, only using AGPS, brightness at 20%, sync on (4 gmail accounts) with data @ HSPA/+, NO wifi usage, google now running (but disable the hotword detection
10 hours since 100% charged, 45 minute screen on (~30 minutes browsing, 15 minutes watching video), I'm at 80% battery left.
30 hours since 100% charged, 2 hours screen on (~80% browsing, 20% videos/games/other), I'm at 30% battery. 10 of the 30 hours = me asleep, but still syncing on mobile data getting email updates
nexus 5: I predict I can go 24 hours with 3 hours screen-on time before hitting 0% with my usage patterns
not possible on the find 5.
more info/screenshots of battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=47471305&postcount=389
I just bought the Find 5 instead of the Nexus 5 comming from the Galaxy Nexus i just don't like the plastic and bad camera/sound on nexus devices
Karsie1994 said:
I just bought the Find 5 instead of the Nexus 5 comming from the Galaxy Nexus i just don't like the plastic and bad camera/sound on nexus devices
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The nexus 5 has that great soft touch. But the find 5 is amazingly built, unique design IMHO, and the speaker is the loudest I've ever heard. With viper4android of course lol.
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The nexus 5 has that great soft touch. But the find 5 is amazingly built, unique design IMHO, and the speaker is the loudest I've ever heard. With viper4android of course lol.
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IMHO Find 5 feels more solid and drop-resistant (of course I cannot make a drop test ).

Battery life on the early 4.4 builds

So lots of people were complaining that the new features would take a hit on the battery life on 4.4...
So, I decided to test it, it was phenomenal.... Google now activated all the time with Google reporting on too.
My battery last for a period of 12 hours with a sot of 5+ hours.....Google now is a very handy feature to me and this update just rocked it.....the idle battery time is good too as I was able to get 24 hours of battery with 4 hours sot.
I am thoroughly impressed.
What type of battery life are you guys getting?
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So lots of people were composing that the new features would take a hit on the battery life on 4.4...
So, I decided to test it, it was phenomenal.... Google now activated all the time with Google reporting on too.
My battery last for a period of 12 hours with a sot of 5+ hours.....Google now is a very handy feature to me and this update just rocked it.....the idle battery time is good too as I was able to get 24 hours of battery with 4 hours sot.
I am thoroughly impressed.
What type of battery life are you guys getting?
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I can't wait until we get the official OTA. It should make it even better. I think 4.3 was terrible in terms of battery, just awful. I was constantly charging my phone. I really hope 4.4 helps me out.
EnIXmA said:
So lots of people were composing that the new features would take a hit on the battery life on 4.4...
So, I decided to test it, it was phenomenal.... Google now activated all the time with Google reporting on too.
My battery last for a period of 12 hours with a sot of 5+ hours.....Google now is a very handy feature to me and this update just rocked it.....the idle battery time is good too as I was able to get 24 hours of battery with 4 hours sot.
I am thoroughly impressed.
What type of battery life are you guys getting?
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Nice results!! Would you say it's same/better than stock battery life? As I'm very tempted to flash it
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Nice results!! Would you say it's same/better than stock battery life? As I'm very tempted to flash it
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Definitely better..I was on sense ever since I bought the phone and used to charge 2-3 times a day with Google now sucking up the battery.... Can't wait for the official release and stable art.
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I can't wait until we get the official OTA. It should make it even better. I think 4.3 was terrible in terms of battery, just awful. I was constantly charging my phone. I really hope 4.4 helps me out.
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lol what 4.3 jumped my battery life though the roof and on 4.4 its even better
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lol what 4.3 jumped my battery life though the roof and on 4.4 its even better
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Overall 4.3 has been reported worse battery life for a majority of HTC One users (there was a poll) and overall among all phones. Its because they did not properly execute some of the background applications. 4.4 fixes that.
my htc one dev converted to google edition has been great as well on 4.3
I also have a nexus 5 and was easily getting 5 hours SOT for the whole day of use. Same battery too. I cant wait for 4.4 GE for the one though. I hope it comes with ART as it was really good on the nexus 5. Not holding my breath tho as the nexus 4 / 7 dont have it.
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I can't wait until we get the official OTA. It should make it even better. I think 4.3 was terrible in terms of battery, just awful. I was constantly charging my phone. I really hope 4.4 helps me out.
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4.3 is wakelock city.
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aimetti said:
my htc one dev converted to google edition has been great as well on 4.3
I also have a nexus 5 and was easily getting 5 hours SOT for the whole day of use. Same battery too. I cant wait for 4.4 GE for the one though. I hope it comes with ART as it was really good on the nexus 5. Not holding my breath tho as the nexus 4 / 7 dont have it.
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The nexus 4 does.
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4.3 is wakelock city.
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The nexus 4 does.
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awesome news! i thought it didnt, happy to be wrong.
The Project said:
Overall 4.3 has been reported worse battery life for a majority of HTC One users (there was a poll) and overall among all phones. Its because they did not properly execute some of the background applications. 4.4 fixes that.
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lol ok but im telling you its not true in my case
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The Project said:
Overall 4.3 has been reported worse battery life for a majority of HTC One users (there was a poll) and overall among all phones. Its because they did not properly execute some of the background applications. 4.4 fixes that.
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and what poll
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lol ok but im telling you its not true in my case
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and what poll
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You're one out of hundreds of thousands of users. I don't get why you're so adamant in refusing to believe anything that's different from what you have experienced. I could get amazing battery life from 4.3 too, if i turned off every single damn thing and used it as if it was a dumb phone. Battery life for me has been ****tier compared to 4.2.2 as well.
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You're one out of hundreds of thousands of users. I don't get why you're so adamant in refusing to believe anything that's different from what you have experienced. I could get amazing battery life from 4.3 too, if i turned off every single damn thing and used it as if it was a dumb phone. Battery life for me has been ****tier compared to 4.2.2 as well.
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because i can and because i normally pulls 16-20 hours on a charge with 4.3 with everything turned off and normal use and others do the same thing
99% of the time if a user is getting crappy battery life its dude to wake locks that is normally caused by the user that installed an app that is not playing well and wanting to sleep ..
hey all im saying is the majority of the people i know have GREAT battery life with 4.3
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because i can and because i normally pulls 16-20 hours on a charge with 4.3 with everything turned off and normal use and others do the same thing
99% of the time if a user is getting crappy battery life its dude to wake locks that is normally caused by the user that installed an app that is not playing well and wanting to sleep ..
hey all im saying is the majority of the people i know have GREAT battery life with 4.3
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Lol 4.3 IS wakelock city, as much as you refuse to believe so. With the exact same apps, on 4.2.2 i use to get about 2% usage overnight. Now? I'm lucky if I wake up with 85% down from 100%. So while yes I can pull 16 - 20 hours with 4.3, its a far cry from what I use to get on 4.2.2.
It really depends on what you define as "great" battery life. I'd consider 2 days + of usage and 4 hours SOT to be great. 16 - 20 hours is just ok.
I agree about 4.3 + sense 5.5 being bad for battery , altough i do get better deep sleep with 4.3 the overall screen time usage is worse !
Here examples from my experience:
4.2.2 = Average 6/7 screen time no matter what i do ( no gaming ) , 4.2.2 gaming from 100 to 10% a8 = 3:30 / 3:50 average
4.3 + sense 5 = average 6-7:20 hrs screen time + much much better deep sleep + better temperatures . average gaming 3:50 / 4:20 A8
4.3 + sense 5.5 = average 5:30 / 6hrs TOPS screen time , temperatures MUCH worse , gaming = 3:15 / 3:30 TOPS a8 , deep sleep worse then 4.3 + sense 5.
I think what reduced our battery life a bit is sense 5.5 not 4.3 as much as sense , i've tried MANY roms , MANY kernels and the stats i wrote above are from STOCK kernel + custom roms.
I deffinetely in overall 4.3 + sense 5.5 has reduced our battery for about 20% then it was.
Too bad sense 5.5 is so much better then sense 5 i just can't go back to 4.3 + sense 5 which was without doubt king of battery life. Hopefully we will gain back our lost 20% and even better perhaps GAIN some battery with 4.4.
On the other hand GPE 4.3 deffinetely is better then 4.2.2 gpe. Tho i can't give up from sense so worthless to me.
@CheesyNutz
I lose average 0/1% in deep sleep of 10hrs , but the deep sleep / wakelocks aren't issue , actuall usage consumes more then before.
If you guys need proof about my stats i could post screen shoots.
Edit , here screenshots see for yourself :
1st 7 pics are from 4.2.2 (1/7 pics )
2nd 7 pics are from 4.3 + sense 5.0 (7/14 pics)
Last 6 pics are from 4.3 + sense 5.5 ( 14/20 pics )
Imagine my frustration i've lost from 1 up to 1:30 hrs screen time, you can clearly see i've always had insane deep sleep so it's not that.
There is no sign of Android System or Google Services. I'm happy.
Any further infos guys?
Like what firmware/baseband you using?
Because i really think about to flash 4.4 as my daily driver (currently stucking with 4.3 GPE rom).
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The nexus 4 does.
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and so does the 7 (2013)
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So lots of people were complaining that the new features would take a hit on the battery life on 4.4...
So, I decided to test it, it was phenomenal.... Google now activated all the time with Google reporting on too.
My battery last for a period of 12 hours with a sot of 5+ hours.....Google now is a very handy feature to me and this update just rocked it.....the idle battery time is good too as I was able to get 24 hours of battery with 4 hours sot.
I am thoroughly impressed.
What type of battery life are you guys getting?
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Which ROM?
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Which ROM?
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FTL
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aimetti said:
my htc one dev converted to google edition has been great as well on 4.3
I also have a nexus 5 and was easily getting 5 hours SOT for the whole day of use. Same battery too. I cant wait for 4.4 GE for the one though. I hope it comes with ART as it was really good on the nexus 5. Not holding my breath tho as the nexus 4 / 7 dont have it.
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I don't understand. I'm on ART on the Nexus 4.

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Ya sure , the battery life is so awesome I think I don't need to charge it again until May 27th.
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Ya sure , the battery life is so awesome I think I don't need to charge it again until May 27th.
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Good one
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3000mAH for 2k 5.5 inch
just to make sure this one maybe for korea, usually using 2 batteries so the global g3 will be different
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3000mAH for 2k 5.5 inch
just to make sure this one maybe for korea, usually using 2 batteries so the global g3 will be different
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The g pro 2 came with 2 batteries ... maybe they do the same.
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honestly, if they just put a 4000mAh in it, I wouldn't mind if it weren't replaceable. And I seriously doubt with the kind of perfomance/specs its gonna have, anyone would really mind the extra thickness either. Not to mention heft (cough, durability).
It's not how big the tank K is but how much less is sippped from the tank
Nexus 5 so battery is 75% if G2
But battery life on nexus 5 is far less than 75 percentage of G2 albeit having a smaller screen
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Don't forget - with a removable battery, I'll bet some vendor will come out with a 3500+ mAh battery...
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Don't forget - with a removable battery, I'll bet some vendor will come out with a 3500+ mAh battery...
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true, tho hopefully LG itself does it, kinda like Samsung did with S3, which I have.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Firs...ery-life-tests-show-promising-results_id56590
more than six hours of screen-on time with 100% brightness, it's really impressive.
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more than six hours of screen-on time with 100% brightness, it's really impressive.
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it looks promising but i would take this article with a grain of salt. I want to see a article or a video with alot of apps and features turned on this reviewed. i believe that would be a real battery review
Still, LG hasn't outed official talk, standby, browsing and video playback times yet, so we can only guesstimate the battery life of the G3 to be pretty good, based on some tangential proof from improvised battery tests that are popping up.
First off, a prototype version of the phone has been put through its paces, and the phone lasted six and a half hours of video playback on a charge, as you can see from the screens on the right. That might seem average, but the test has been done at the screen's*maximumbrightness, which*LG officially pegs at 430 nits, instead of the usual 150 or 200 nits, so the result from standardized routines like our own battery test, are likely to be much higher.*
Also so the test was at basically 2× brightness of a normal screen. ... so at lower brightness it should do very well
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Thanks to the removable battery I couldn't care less about battery life you can always take one or even two with you and go through half a week without ever needing to charge your phone good job LG :good:
I'm sure it will feature some sort of ultra power saving mode just like the S5
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Thanks to the removable battery I couldn't care less about battery life you can always take one or even two with you and go through half a week without ever needing to charge your phone good job LG :good:
I'm sure it will feature some sort of ultra power saving mode just like the S5
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Is it really nice to always have a secondary batt and most time having to turn off phone then replace. I quite don't like that and I don't see that very cute at all. Maybe it's how I feel but that for me just seems not right.
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Is it really nice to always have a secondary batt and most time having to turn off phone then replace. I quite don't like that and I don't see that very cute at all. Maybe it's how I feel but that for me just seems not right.
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I would totally have taken a 3500mAh stuck battery like in G2(not impossible to remove after some years) instead of 3000mAh removable.
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I would totally have taken a 3500mAh stuck battery like in G2(not impossible to remove after some years) instead of 3000mAh removable.
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How about we first get the phone and test it ourselves?
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How about we first get the phone and test it ourselves?
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I never said 3000mAh isnt enough, but 3500mAh would last longer and most people dont run around with an extra battery in their pocket even if they can. Saving 1-2 hours of work to replace a battery like in the G2 after 1-3 years isnt really that much.
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I never said 3000mAh isnt enough, but 3500mAh would last longer and most people dont run around with an extra battery in their pocket even if they can. Saving 1-2 hours of work to replace a battery like in the G2 after 1-3 years isnt really that much.
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Just the same way you are thinking, don't you think that LG thought of that?
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Just the same way you are thinking, don't you think that LG thought of that?
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Of course they did, but they are catering to the people who are stuck in the old days when smartphones didnt last as long and batteries died much faster. Sure batteries degrade still, but if they hold longer between the charges and with more improvment it would be years between needing to change it. LG did the right thing with G2, but people arent smart enough to see it, so LG had to go back to the old ways to win the heart of the stuck.
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Of course they did, but they are catering to the people who are stuck in the old days when smartphones didnt last as long and batteries died much faster. Sure batteries degrade still, but if they hold longer between the charges and with more improvment it would be years between needing to change it. LG did the right thing with G2, but people arent smart enough to see it, so LG had to go back to the old ways to win the heart of the stuck.
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Okay, what I'm saying is if they have thought then it'll make no sense for that regard. If so, then the 3000mAh batt along with their Optimization makes it enough to have that battery.
Like for example, there are different desktop power supplies but some of them are different quality. A 3 star 1200w quality desktop supply could be equivalent to a 5 star 800w quality supply.

Poor battery life - just the phone, or something else?

Hello,
My Nexus 6P, albeit a great phone, is starting to get a little slow and the battery life has suffered. My memory usage isn't high, around 2GB. I close all apps after using them. I haven't even used close to half of my 64GB storage.
I am a very heavy phone user, and I am having to recharge my 6P more than once every day. I cannot sustainably use max screen brightness as it drains the battery too quickly, a shame because maximum brightness on this phone is so beautiful!
From some testing, it is taking 2 minutes and 3 seconds to drop 1% in battery life at maximum screen brightness while watching YouTube. Round to two minutes, multiply by 100, and that gives you 200 minutes. 3 hours and 20 minutes.. that is silly, plus the battery drops off faster as the percentage decreases (I tested at 94%).
Realistically, I can get 2.5-3 hours on this phone at maximum brightness - is there something wrong, or is this just the phone? While writing this post in 5 minutes, I dropped another 3%...
It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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It should be pretty obvious that a 2k screen at maximum (!) brightness can drain the battery faster.
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Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
What gives?
Lower the brightness.
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Yes, but Techradar's test of a 90 minute video with adaptive brightness OFF (like me) takes battery down to 75%. That's 25% down in 1.5 hours, meaning the battery life of their test model would be 6 hours video playback, more than double what I get.
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You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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You're taking 1 instance of a test and multiplying it as it the variables within that instance will remain the same. Batteries drain faster the more they are used in an instance because of the heat. This type of test can be done with a flashlight. Turn it on for an extended period of time and then turn it off for a few seconds. Turn it on again and the brightness will be at max (for the batteries' capacity at the time), after about 5 seconds, the light will dim suddenly.
Same thing happens in phones. Manage your brightness.
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So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
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So essentially, this is just the battery life of the 6P?
Seems a little weird to give a phone such a beautiful display but we are unable to use it to its full extent because it won't last.
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I can't say that, but I can say there's no device that we can expect to just use that way. All devices (even outside of smartphones) are like that. If it runs on a battery expect not to be able to use it to its full capabilities for an extended period of time.
Cars are the same way. If you run it at max speed all the time (if there were no laws), you'll run out of gas extremely quickly, compared to 65mph. Same concept applies here. It sucks but that's the way it is.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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The battery of this phone is poor, no doubt in that. However what I found is that my previous phone (which I had to RMA) lasted much longer than the current one. Around 1-1.5-2(barely)hr more SOT. Don't know how this could happen.
Yeah, 6P is not what I expected it to be.
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Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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Not saying you are wrong, but I feel like some say that about every phone. I will have to wait and see when mine gets here.
When the Note 5 came out there were so many people saying how terrible it was with battery life. Almost turned me away from getting it. Finally decided to take the plunge and guess what? It's pretty much the same as all the other phones I have had. The phone don't suck, our usage changes based on the device we have. I use my Note 5 more than I did my Note 4, battery still lasts me all day but needs to be charged about an hour after I get home. Note 4 made it until bedtime but I had a company phone to use all day.
I'm hoping the 6P can handle me all day. No pen to use so it should be fine.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I don't get why you're getting the 6P if you already have the Note 5. Like having two or more phones uh?
I got the 6P in place of the Note 5. I had a Note 4 before (it was defective I believe), it had terrible battery life (very rarely 4.5 to 5 hours SOT) and heats up to 75C very easily. Sure the 6P is cheaper, but I could've gotten the Note 5 if I wanted because this device is going to be there for at least 2 years. The thought of I can't bear anymore of TouchWiz was the only reason I got 6P. I thought the Note 5 would heat similarly and that 6P was better overall. But now I think I'm wrong, the Note 5 is a slightly better phone.
My 6P heats way too much (though not as much as my Note 4 did). Battery not upto expectation. Inconsistent camera (exposure problems). Throttling issues.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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I actually don't mind touchwiz especially now that they have trimmed most of the fat and you can theme it now. Sad I'll miss out on AOSP/CM on it but I guess that's what the Nexus line is for. As far as the 6P being worse than the Note 5, I think it's based on usage patterns. The Note 5 has it's own slew of issues, radio especially for me, it does tend to heat up but not as bad as some other phones. Slippery as hell OMG!!! And that all glass thing is just absolutely nightmarish! It is still a fantastic device though and I will miss it greatly.
I'm getting it because of Project Fi. It will be cheaper for my wife and I compared to what we pay now for T-Mobile. We will be saving just over $60. That's date night once a month right there, Lol. I am actually getting rid of my Note 5, and unfortunately earlier today I dropped it on the road without a case on!!!!!!!!!!!:crying::crying::crying::crying::crying:
I cried....no shame there....my own damn fault too.
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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Maaan.. You could've just used a case! :
You do know that the 6P bends very easily without a case right (I got to know after I bought the device).
So you're getting the 6P as a replacement to your Note 5? I don't get why I see many people using the 6P after the Note 5. Is the 6P actually better?
Do let me know about your thoughts when you get your phone.
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Sometimes I go bare with it because I'm always "careful" lol. I plan on having a case for the 6P for sure. I'll probably go bare off and on once I get used to the device and become comfortable.
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I've found that since a security patch update around February that my phones battery drops so much quicker. I used to be able to get 5 hours sot. I've seen a few people post on this issue and with it being a software issue I'm becoming extremely frustrated with android. I'm ashamed to say I'm considering selling the 6p and getting an Iphone
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No shame there. Seems like something is staying awake when it should be dozing. I'm assuming it's not rooted right?
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