HTC One M8 and the Moto 360 - One (M8) General

I recently bought the Moto 360 and couldn't be happier. These two look like they belong together. So far everything is syncing and working together smoothly. The only gripe would be that you can't voice reply to a text message using the stock messenger app, although this seems to be an issue with most if not all stock messaging apps. It doesn't bother me enough to switch to Google Hangouts.
Just thought I'd share my thoughts. Anyone else using the Moto 360 with the HTC One M8?

I also have M8 and I bought the moto 360.. waiting for the shipment to arrive...cant wait..im so excited to use it with the beloved M8 ???

tafo said:
I also have M8 and I bought the moto 360.. waiting for the shipment to arrive...cant wait..im so excited to use it with the beloved M8 ???
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Did you get your watch yet?

The watch andthe phone speak over Bluetooth, right?
Does having the phone paired with a watch affect its ability to pair with other bluetooth devices? IE could I have my phone and watch paired and still have my phone pair with my car at the same time?
(Trying to talk myself into / out of buying a 360 right now.... haha)

Im using an lg g watch with my m8,with arhd i see shorter battery life

ttown said:
Did you get your watch yet?
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no still ???..

thebobmannh said:
The watch andthe phone speak over Bluetooth, right?
Does having the phone paired with a watch affect its ability to pair with other bluetooth devices? IE could I have my phone and watch paired and still have my phone pair with my car at the same time?
(Trying to talk myself into / out of buying a 360 right now.... haha)
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I have mine paired to my car as well as a few different headsets when I'm out of the car. Even when i use the watch as a remote to change tracks it doesn't make the phone skip a beat. This is probably due to the phone and not the watch though, as my OG Evo and EVO LTE was never able to be connected to something constantly streaming data as well as something that isn't, i.e. my car and an obd2 adapter.

The only time in my life I wore a watch was in the military but the look of the 360 makes me want one because I'm a gadget junkie. I love that Moto went round where all the others are square. How thick is it. It's hard to tell in the photos. Is it worth it and what can it do? Do you find yourself going to it before you go to the phone? Can it do GPS? I'd hate to shell out the bucks and then never use it.

The only gripe would be that you can't voice reply to a text message using the stock messenger app, although this seems to be an issue with most if not all stock messaging apps. It doesn't bother me enough to switch to Google Hangouts.
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Wow, that is quite a deal breaker to be honest.
If I understand you correctly, replying via voice doesn't work? Does sending a text via "ok google" work with the stock HTC Sense messaging app?

Maedhros said:
Wow, that is quite a deal breaker to be honest.
If I understand you correctly, replying via voice doesn't work? Does sending a text via "ok google" work with the stock HTC Sense messaging app?
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No it doesn't, you have to be using Hangouts for SMS to compose and reply to SMS on the watch.

theandies said:
The only time in my life I wore a watch was in the military but the look of the 360 makes me want one because I'm a gadget junkie. I love that Moto went round where all the others are square. How thick is it. It's hard to tell in the photos. Is it worth it and what can it do? Do you find yourself going to it before you go to the phone? Can it do GPS? I'd hate to shell out the bucks and then never use it.
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I imagine thickness is going to be relative to who's wearing it. They have them at Best Buy for you to play around with, just go to their website to see if they're in stock at your local one.

theandies said:
The only time in my life I wore a watch was in the military but the look of the 360 makes me want one because I'm a gadget junkie. I love that Moto went round where all the others are square. How thick is it. It's hard to tell in the photos. Is it worth it and what can it do? Do you find yourself going to it before you go to the phone? Can it do GPS? I'd hate to shell out the bucks and then never use it.
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It's been a long time since I wore a watch as well, but this one brought me back for the same reason. It doesn't seem that thick to me, no thicker than other watches I've owned (typical designer waterproof steel ones). The back kind of sinks into my arm which takes a bit of the width down, maybe it's subjective, I dunno. I tried to test one at the store but they wouldn't open any unless I bought one so I took the gamble.
I do find myself going to it first, but there's only so many things I can go to it for. It's really just a notification display at present - so it tells me when I get texts, email, calendar events (actually it kept me on time this morning because the notification on the watch counts down the last 60min helps you estimate how much time you have to get there). It's been cool in the morning to see weather info from Google Now, but the card goes away during the day for me at least, so to see the weather I have to ask it to show me. But I still prefer that than having to bring out my phone for sure. If you use something like Wear MiniLauncher you can also check on how your phone's battery is doing and toggle wifi or volume. But for any text entry I still much prefer using my phone. I guess what I'm saying is that I have no expectation or desire to do any real work on a watch, so I go to it first for quick updates which it's been great for.
Gps, well it doesn't really do much by it's self from my experience and understanding. It needs a connection to a phone to do anything, and when I navigated to a restaurant today on the watch I noticed that my phone was doing the navigating and just feeding the directions to the watch. And the voice was from the phone of course. It was a cool way to navigate, the vibration and having the screen right there was useful IMO.

Xerro-Five said:
It's been a long time since I wore a watch as well, but this one brought me back for the same reason. It doesn't seem that thick to me, no thicker than other watches I've owned (typical designer waterproof steel ones). The back kind of sinks into my arm which takes a bit of the width down, maybe it's subjective, I dunno. I tried to test one at the store but they wouldn't open any unless I bought one so I took the gamble.
I do find myself going to it first, but there's only so many things I can go to it for. It's really just a notification display at present - so it tells me when I get texts, email, calendar events (actually it kept me on time this morning because the notification on the watch counts down the last 60min helps you estimate how much time you have to get there). It's been cool in the morning to see weather info from Google Now, but the card goes away during the day for me at least, so to see the weather I have to ask it to show me. But I still prefer that than having to bring out my phone for sure. If you use something like Wear MiniLauncher you can also check on how your phone's battery is doing and toggle wifi or volume. But for any text entry I still much prefer using my phone. I guess what I'm saying is that I have no expectation or desire to do any real work on a watch, so I go to it first for quick updates which it's been great for.
Gps, well it doesn't really do much by it's self from my experience and understanding. It needs a connection to a phone to do anything, and when I navigated to a restaurant today on the watch I noticed that my phone was doing the navigating and just feeding the directions to the watch. And the voice was from the phone of course. It was a cool way to navigate, the vibration and having the screen right there was useful IMO.
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Similar experience here. You nailed it over one point, I don't understand people who are expecting a smartwatch to do everything their phone does. If it did, it's rendering that £500+ device in your pocket useless! Google Wear seems to have the right idea in keeping it pretty much as a notification repeater with more basic interactions.
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MistaBishi said:
No it doesn't, you have to be using Hangouts for SMS to compose and reply to SMS on the watch.
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You can definitely reply through sms, I've done this a lot. I see I received a text, I read it, I say Ok Google text ___(person who just texted me), and I say what I want to text and it auto sends when I stop talking. All in all it works very well, and maybe more useful that having a reply button on the message card IMO.
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Maedhros said:
Wow, that is quite a deal breaker to be honest.
If I understand you correctly, replying via voice doesn't work? Does sending a text via "ok google" work with the stock HTC Sense messaging app?
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Not sure I am understanding everyone correctly. I have the watch and the M8. I have used both Go SMS and Chomp SMS. When I receive a text, I tap on the text, swipe to the left (I think that way) and it says reply, I tap on that and voice reply to the message. And that's all there is to it, it responds directly to the text.
When responding directly to a text, it's extremely simple.

My 360 and M8 do go really well indeed.

My moto 360 is finally here??? its doing very well with M8 ( DESPITE of fast battert draining of both) ..i think the bluetooth connection is the biggest battery bleed of both devices!(in addition to facer) because when i did airplane mode on the watch.... Battery life is way better! ( moto then is useless then lol) I hope it can be solved in the forthcoming updates
Information:
Moto 360 version 4.4w.2
Apps: dialer, mini launcher, calculator, facer( yea its the main battery drainer), find my fone, ring remote
Htc M8: htc__622 (HK) stock rooted 4.4.3

I was really thinking about getting Moto 360 about a month back, then LG G Watch R came out but don't really like it as it is a bit chunky. I'm waiting for ASUS Zenwatch to get released in UK as that's what I'm going to get.
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tafo said:
My moto 360 is finally here??? its doing very well with M8 ( DESPITE of fast battert draining of both) ..i think the bluetooth connection is the biggest battery bleed of both devices!(in addition to facer) because when i did airplane mode on the watch.... Battery life is way better! ( moto then is useless then lol) I hope it can be solved in the forthcoming updates
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Moto 360 version 4.4w.2
Apps: dialer, mini launcher, calculator, facer( yea its the main battery drainer), find my fone, ring remote
Htc M8: htc__622 (HK) stock rooted 4.4.3
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Shouldn't drain a lot of battery as both use Bluetooth 4

Yea thats what i know?! Ill do tests to see if its acually true or not... Also i noticed that changing alot watch faces by facer drains batter but if used it once for whole day its acceptable

I am not finding facer bring a big battery problem.

Related

you've had the weekend to play with it.

how do you like your EVO?
what are the quirks that are bugging you?
what phone did you come from?
and
how does it compare to that previous phone?
i have my phone pre-order sitting at best buy still.
i have my money, i have my little gift card....only thing is i've really enjoyed the past few roms on my HTC HERO and I don't feel the need for this phone because the Hero has fit me very well. that and there is no 4g here in so cali yet so what's the point?
thanks to everyone who replies
I left WiMo on a VZW xv6800
Quirks........
no signature in SMS and the native email client sucks. I can only get my main folder in Hotmail and not all my other folders were my mail is separated to.
Anyone know a better email client that will resolve that?
I thought Seven would do it but i see they dont have a client for Android as of yet.
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I left WiMo on a VZW xv6800
Quirks........
no signature in SMS and the native email client sucks. I can only get my main folder in Hotmail and not all my other folders were my mail is separated to.
Anyone know a better email client that will resolve that?
I thought Seven would do it but i see they dont have a client for Android as of yet.
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after 1 week with the stock text client i switched to handcent. it is SO SO SO SO SO much better in my opinion
i hate the mail client for hotmail/yahoo as well BUT i only really use gmail and that one is perfect for me so...maybe think about switching to gmail?
oh jeeze....thats what she said.
my evo is treating me great! my first complain was with the battery, but with a few discharge/recharge cycles, it seems to be doing well.
everything else is pretty much gravy. i love the screen, the real estate is just MASSIVE.
bottom line, you're going to love this thing
Phenomenal piece of hardware.
I love my Evo. I am still setting it up and haven't decided if I want to root or not but its awesome.
Haven't had many quirks, the soft keys are a little sensitive and I end up fatfingering them when playing some games, no biggie. Battery isn't a huge issue if you're a resourceful person. I used my phone for 6 hours before it died doing HEAVY usage. (Navigation, Trapster, YouTube streaming, Super KO Boxing 2, Pictures, recorded a 2 min video, etc)
I came from the G1, what an upgrade.
I freaking love it!!!!
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I love my Evo. I am still setting it up and haven't decided if I want to root or not but its awesome.
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Do the unrevoked root. Getting rid of it is as simple as uninstalling the app. All Root does is give you superuser/admin rights to the phone.
I love this phone. I play iMobsters on it so addicting so I haven't had too much time to play with the phone. I've taken so many pictures.
Gripes:
Is there a way to turn flash on at night so I can record video? Videos come out dark so I haven't recorded much at night.
I disabled SenseUI but I wanted to know how I can get more widgets to fill up at least 1 or 2 more pages. Any recommendations? I noticed that when I disabled SenseUI a lot of widgets don't come up in the options.
I am coming from a Palm Pre, and this phone is so amazing. I have been using the speech-to-text on text messages and it hasn't missed a word yet. I dislike the email client, but it isn't enough to make me verbally complain. I have downloaded a few apps here and there, and so far everything is working better than expected.
I do miss the track pad or ball a little. Nothing earth shattering.
I LOVE THE SCREEN BUT they should have raised the resolution.
I wish the system didn't auto start a bunch of crap. That's an android issue and people shouldn't be forced to root to get rid of it. I'm rooted so this doesn't matter anymore but battery performance and even actual device performance improves after removing all the bull ****.
I wish they was another way to turn on the device. I miss menu menu. Should be an option.
I wish launcher pro worked over sense. I like the widgets.
Otherwise I love android and the evo. I will have a hard time going back to any screen less than 4 inches. I don't miss having s physical keyboard anymore with swype and especially swype on this awesome screen.
The speed is mostly good, it will improve as things get optimized.
how about things like, how does it fit in your pocket.
does it fit in the same spot where you stored your old phone in your car
*i have a perfect slot above my radio and i think the evo may be too thin and it will fall out while driving*
i've had an htc phone since the 6700 a few years back and everything has been mini-usb now i gotta use my blu-tooth microsb cables/chargers.
ummmmmmmmmmmmm
anyone crack their screen yet?
Absolutely love the phone much better than my HD2. Only 2 quirks for me is that I cant control all volumes (media, notifications, phone calls, etc.) with one setting and that I can never tell where my battery percent is. I always have to guess if im on 85% etc. OTT it has exceeded all expectations.
dukins said:
Absolutely love the phone much better than my HD2. Only 2 quirks for me is that I cant control all volumes (media, notifications, phone calls, etc.) with one setting and that I can never tell where my battery percent is. I always have to guess if im on 85% etc. OTT it has exceeded all expectations.
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uhh, there's an app for that (more like 100 apps for that). Most are free too.
gonzoangel said:
how about things like, how does it fit in your pocket.
does it fit in the same spot where you stored your old phone in your car
*i have a perfect slot above my radio and i think the evo may be too thin and it will fall out while driving*
i've had an htc phone since the 6700 a few years back and everything has been mini-usb now i gotta use my blu-tooth microsb cables/chargers.
ummmmmmmmmmmmm
anyone crack their screen yet?
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It fits in my pocket quite well. (Is it just me or are there a lot of jokes that would go there?) I think that it being as thin as it is actually makes it better than my Hero. Just my opinion.
I got the silicone case from Sprint and it doesnt slide around in the cubby in my car at all. Next is the car mount
Led desire light. App to turn led into flashlight. Turn that on then open camera app
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dukins said:
Absolutely love the phone much better than my HD2. Only 2 quirks for me is that I cant control all volumes (media, notifications, phone calls, etc.) with one setting and that I can never tell where my battery percent is. I always have to guess if im on 85% etc. OTT it has exceeded all expectations.
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I use an app called battery left. It is free and really nice.
Aridon said:
I wish launcher pro worked over sense. I like the widgets.
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-That is exactly what I was thinking when I installed launcher pro but removed it due to that reason
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Otherwise I love android and the evo. I will have a hard time going back to any screen less than 4 inches. I don't miss having s physical keyboard anymore with swype and especially swype on this awesome screen.
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I didn't even know what swype was 20 min ago. I installed it and did the tutorial, sent out a few texts. Will take some time to get used to, but so far it seems promising. Thanks.
Pros:
I absolutely love the size. Not too big, not too small.
Kickstand, HDMI out, dual LED flash, 720P recording.
Haptic feedback is great.
Cons:
For some reason, most of my incoming text messages are time stamped incorrectly. I have googled the living hell out of this problem, but can't find a legit fix anywhere.
The camera is so grainy that it feels like I'm using a camera phone from the 90's. Flash clears this up in dark lighting, but indoor photos are terrible.
Stock keyboard is a nightmare. Thank god for Swype.
Lock/Power button is hard to locate without looking at times.
Overall, I couldn't be any more disappointed in the camera. With all the time they spend on kickstands, flash, and such a massive screen I would have thought they'd spend more time on something as standard as a camera. I've read that not many people have this problem- so I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that this is a faulty camera in my phone.
All my friends have been amazed how much I've been tinkering with my phone all weekend. I laid in bed Saturday night for 3 hours (until about 2am) playing with all the cool apps and features of the EVO. They all laughed when I told them I was in bed until 2am (laying next to my wife) while playing with the phone. Yes, "playing" because it's been so much fun. I already had the original G1 when it was first launched 2 years ago, so all this wasn't new to me. I can't imagine how a NEW user to Android would be just blown away at first glance of the EVO.
I was first blown away of the size of the screen. It is sooo much better to view text. I was equally blown away at the speed of the phone and apps (and it's supposed to be faster with 2.2 JIT ??? wow!!). Battery was great for me. I was using everything, including 4G. I was getting tired of waiting for the juice to run out. I was blown away at the Sega Genesis emulator and speed of the games.
I don't have any complaints, but if you twisted my arm and forced me to find something to improve on I would list:
1) Action buttons on the bottom (home, menu, back, and search). They are very sensitive and I keep hitting them accidentally. Not a major problem, but still, I think they should have been physical buttons.
2) Trackball, nice to use instead of keyboard arrow buttons, but as someone else said: This is not a deal breaker.
3) 4G: I live in Houston so we have 4G coverage, but it's spotty. I was in Best Buy over the weekend talking to the ClearWire rep and we were on the edge of the city (in Katy) and he had his usb Dongle to get 4G reception. I still right up next to the antenna and we both ran speed test from SpeedTest.net. The Rep kept getting MINIMUM of 6 Mbit down and 2 Mbit up, while I was getting max 2.25 MBit down (I've since gotten 3.35 MBit down while at home over 4g). With our limited testing I would have to conclude that 4G is NOT ClearWire or Sprints problem, but more of a HARDWARE issue. The USB dongle probably had a better antenna whereas the EVO antenna didn't pick up the signal as much. We were deep inside the Best Buy store and the ClearWire 4G reception was at least 75%, while I barely got 1 bar on my EVO. I changed positions, and we made sure we were both on the same servers running our speed tests. But, 4G is still much faster than 3G, but not what I was expecting.

Anyone tried smart watches? What are your thoughts?

Thinking about getting a smart watch. Has anyone tried these? haven't seem much discussion. Looking at this one:
http://outgrow.me/product/cookoo-watch/
seanvree said:
Thinking about getting a smart watch. Has anyone tried these? haven't seem much discussion. Looking at this one:
http://outgrow.me/product/cookoo-watch/
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I kickstarted (is that a verb now? that makes it sound like I started it though...) the pebble watch. Still a couple months from actually getting it though. Not a whole lot of them out there.
I have a WIMM 1 and I really like it. It's actually an android device in a watch. It has blue tooth and wi-fi.
The screen is color and is a 4 position touch screen.
Battery life is just one day for the most part if you use blue tooth or wi-fi.
But they include a charging paddle so its easy just to set it down in the paddle at night for charging.
It's not a sports watch (no gps I think) but there are some basic programs for walking etc I think they use the accelerometer
If you go their web site you can see they have some pretty cool options.
I also still have an InPulse watch (they are making the pebble now). I don't like this watch nearly as much. And not much
hope of updates to make it better since all they are doing is workign on the pebble now.
Yaotl said:
I kickstarted (is that a verb now? that makes it sound like I started it though...) the pebble watch. Still a couple months from actually getting it though. Not a whole lot of them out there.
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in the same boat waiting on my pebble
the cookoo watch looks way nicer aesthetically than the pebble, but looks like the pebble has more backers and has been in the business a bit longer than the cookoo
Why do you need a smartwatch when you already have a smartphone? Sorry to me just doesn't make sense. It just makes everyone that much more lazy.
babymatteo said:
Why do you need a smartwatch when you already have a smartphone? Sorry to me just doesn't make sense. It just makes everyone that much more lazy.
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did you guys see the one from sony,they had a smartwatch too,but its kinda ugly lool.the most look a like,i think is the cookoo watch,and its kinda cheep i think,but if you had two phone i guess you must have 2 watches lol.
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Why do you need a smartwatch when you already have a smartphone? Sorry to me just doesn't make sense. It just makes everyone that much more lazy.
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I agree.. I know it's not cheap technology but geez, $129.99? I'd wait a few years until the price drops dramatically
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I had the Sony smartwatch for a day. The build quality was horrible. It also felt awkward to use it for anything other than checking the time.
I too am waiting for the pebble. E-ink is the way to go for a watch IMO.
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I had the Sony smartwatch for a day. The build quality was horrible. It also felt awkward to use it for anything other than checking the time.
I too am waiting for the pebble. E-ink is the way to go for a watch IMO.
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so i'm the few people that like more the cookoo watch then the pebble lol.
I have a new WIMM I would sell if a reasonable offer were made to me...
babymatteo said:
Why do you need a smartwatch when you already have a smartphone? Sorry to me just doesn't make sense. It just makes everyone that much more lazy.
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I won't buy this until they make a blue tooth ear piece that can notify when my cookoo watch notifies me that my phone has a notification....
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I got a Metawatch Frame a few weeks ago while waiting for my Pebble to arrive. Well, I got the Pebble today, and I really dig it.
Between the two, I kinda like the Metawatch Frame better for the appearance - it's a metal case with a leather band. It just looks better than Pebble. The screen is pretty nice, although being very reflective can be tricky to read.
But I like the Pebble more for the more reliable functionality. See, the Metawatch's software support is still spotty. The official app doesn't do much at all yet. They're supposed to be releasing an update to the Market any day now. In the meantime I've used the Community Edition, which works much better. It still has major issues. Notifications only pop up as "Mail received on [mail account]", or "SMS message received", but no subject or sender information. Then with both the MWMCE and Noah editions, the watch resets itself after receiving the alert.
With Pebble, I connected it to my Galaxy Nexus and tested a few things. The only thing that didn't seem to work was SMS messages. I had found the Pebble Notifier plugin for Tasker, and played with it, and it worked pretty well. Then I noticed the developer set up Pebble Notifier as a standalone application. You can select apps from a list of your apps, and any notification that shows up in your phone's notification tray will be sent to Pebble. It works well, and Pebble doesn't reset every time, either! In fact, after testing many notifications I have not seen the Pebble disconnect or reset.
I'll probably end up selling the Metawatch Frame. I would list it here, but it seems the for sale forum has been closed. Guess I'll have to fall back on Egay.
mshifai tou
The COOKOO watch case dimensions are 44mm x 16.3mm.
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That's a huge wrist-killer watch.
Talking smart watches as anyone heard of this one
VEA Buddy Bluetooth watch its on indiegogo
was thinking of joining in on it with a pledge just not sure yet plus i am waiting on getting the pebble did,nt get to back that though just got one on order so its gonna be a long long wait for that
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I got the Pebble Smartwatch and it is pretty slick. I think they will really become popular after Apple releases their own version.
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That's a huge wrist-killer watch.
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The watch is not that bad.. my watch is 50mm x 15mm.. No biggie...
Still waiting for the android app.. till then, I will be holding off buying it..
well it looks cool. problem is you have to charge often... not ideal specialy if your the type who's always in an adventure...
Smartwatches
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2152256
I posted my thoughts on the Sony Smartwatch at the above link. I tried the Sony and the Pebble and I prefer the Sony. For those who wonder why the need for a watch when you already have the phone, I think it'll change your mind once you have a smartwatch. It's very liberating not having to pull the phone (in my case, the big Note II) out of your pocket as often. All of my notifications, weather, facebook, twitter, e-mails, sms... can be glanced quickly with the watch, especially when I'm driving or in a meeting.
With the new smartphones shouting out connectivity and innovation all it does is tieing up a soul to the internet. Facebook, Twitter, notification here, notification there, your whole life is becoming a bleep.
Kind regards,
Thomas
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[Q] Sony Smartwatch 3 or Moto 360 - small wrists

I am trying to choose the right smartwatch for me and I am sort of losing my mind. I really can't decide which one to get. So I have finally narrowed my decision down to two. Sony Smartwatch 3 and Moto 360. I like Sony when it comes to mobile hardware - I currently have a Z3 Compact and it would seem only logical to pair it with a smartwatch from Sony. But... I like Motorola as well. Never had any problems with them before.
Both have their pros and the cons. Moto 360 basically looks way better. It also has a heart rate monitor which I like but it isn't a must. On the other hand Smartwatch 3 has a much smoother interface, better battery, is cheaper and has micro USB for charging.
My main problem is this - I am a pretty small guy and I have small wrists as well. So a big watch would just look ridiculous on me. My wrists are about 46mm in diameter at the widest point where the watch would sit. So that's a big issue and the determining factor will be the size. I know that the Smartwatch 3 is slightly larger in one dimension, but it is designed much differently and is thiner. But it is pretty new and I haven't seen much comments about its size.
Anyone with similar issues? What would you suggest?
I own Sony smart watch 3 for the following reasons:
1. All round watches will have troubles with ui in one app or another, they just awkward to code for
2. Sony one is waterproof, has GPS, transflective LCD, great battery life and better chipset (moto uses prehistoric chipset same as in their motoactv from 2011)
3. I have medium sized wrist it fits perfectly, you could try one and return if it doesn't fit.
Overall I would not bother with any round watches unless to show off and from current wear offerings I feel like sw3 is the best and if you'll use GPS it is the only one.
I personally am a Moto 360 person myself. I have fairly skinny wrists and haven't noticed an aesthetic or comfort issue wearing it. In terms of app support: it is indeed harder for coders to deal with round screens but it seems like most have figured them out. The marker for round watches just seems large at this point which forces most to support them if at all feasible.
I also do not trust Sony when it comes to Android based devices. They always seem to release products in that space that flop and thereby do not get as much updates/support compared to peer manufacturers.
Good luck in your decision!
I get a SW3 today. I've also a small wrist and it fits very well.
Why I choose SW3 not Moto 360? A round watch is pretty cool, but I cannot tolerate its black bar below, it makes me crazy...
And also consider the battery, SW3 finally becomes my first android wear.
Same here, wanted a moto 360. But after looking at everything I bought SW3 yesterday. Never had android wear before or actually worn a watch. But SW3 for £130 was an easy decision. It should arrive on Thursday.
I am 2 meter tall guy so size ssd never a concern to me. Only thing I didn't like about SW3 was that weird watch band. A standart 22mm watch bands would be much better. But I will see how it feels when it arrives. Can't wait! [emoji2]
Well I have finally decided and bought a Moto 360. It has arrived yesterday so I've had about a day of "play time" with it. A bit mixed feelings for now. But not really a HW problem. Android Wear seems very much like a huge beta for now.
First my thoughts on hardware - I love the design. It really is a beautiful watch. And just a tad too large for my wrists. Smaller would be better but size isn't too big of an issue on the current model. It could be a bit thiner though. I don't particularly like the leather strap to be honest. The leather feels a bit too stiff for my liking. I've seen much softer leather bands on watches before. I would probably prefer one of those. Or maybe textile. But maybe it will soften up a bit with time.
Battery doesn't seem like a particularly big issue. I am at 55% right now (I started using it in the morning and it is 9 in the evening now) and I have been playing with it a lot today. Installing apps, using things, ... So it seems like it will last me a day just fine.
Pedometer seems useless. I can't check how accurate it is because it doesn't update in real time - the ****? Who thought that this was a good idea? If I make a step I want to see it change immediately. Not two hours later. Heart rate sensor isn't much better either.
And now for android wear... What was google thinking? What's the point of having the ability to read an email or to reply to it but no ability to delete that thing? I delete 80% of my emails after I read them. Why can't I do that on my wrist? What about a keyboard? We know it isn't impossible. So why isn't it there? Something similar to a standard numeric keypad that we can see on old mobile phones would work (T9 anyone?). Or a full fledged keyboard in some other form. Not because I don't want to talk but because voice input is useless for anything but English. And we will be seeing support for Slovene in ... let's be honest ... never. So I can't send a message to anyone, I can't send an email to anyone, start a navigation to somewhere, ... KEYBOARD!
Why do "apps" like Yatse remote hide/close when the watch goes to sleep? This makes it pretty much useless then.
Deleting emails is just swipe left, delete.. I do it all the time as 90% of what I get is spam anyway.
IME the watches work best as notification devices.. they're great for telling you that an email or tweet has arrived, or that you have to leave to get to an appointment, without having to fish in your pocket to work out whether it's an important message or not. During meetings a quick glance at the watch is pretty unobtrusive.
They're too small though to be general purpose devices, and they're not designed to be (hence no real launcher.. 'apps' is buried at the bottom of a menu). Once you get into serious amounts of interaction you're better off just taking the phone out and using that.
TonyHoyle said:
Deleting emails is just swipe left, delete.. I do it all the time as 90% of what I get is spam anyway.
IME the watches work best as notification devices.. they're great for telling you that an email or tweet has arrived, or that you have to leave to get to an appointment, without having to fish in your pocket to work out whether it's an important message or not. During meetings a quick glance at the watch is pretty unobtrusive.
They're too small though to be general purpose devices, and they're not designed to be (hence no real launcher.. 'apps' is buried at the bottom of a menu). Once you get into serious amounts of interaction you're better off just taking the phone out and using that.
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The funny thing here is this - I've found it performs the worst as a notification device. It performs great when I need a timer or when I need to quickly check one of my notes.
Notifications are just... meh. I want f*** email notifications. And no I don't have a delete option when I swipe left. I have reply, mark as read and open on phone. No delete. What is even worse - the thing doesn't vibrate when I get an email. Probably it has something to do with the email client I am using - the stock (AOSP) android one. Not gmail or something else. How am I supposed to have faith in a platform when even the thing that is most advertised doesn't work with the built in app?
The first thing I installed on there was an app launcher. I also found a neat app that enables you to send text messages with an actual keyboard. So at least there is that.
I have a "swipe left" to delete also. It depends what you use for your email. I use "Blue Mail"
tonyguy2000 said:
I have a "swipe left" to delete also. It depends what you use for your email. I use "Blue Mail"
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Probably.
I am not happy with the fact that something so basic as deleting emails and vibrating when that email arrives is not supported with the app made by Google. On their own platform.
I was also hoping that Lolipop update would bring us some improvements in that regard - the watch got an update today and it didn't improve any of my issues.
i don't know which one is more suitable for you .
but people are often talking about moto 360 ,
sony watch i havent heard it many time .
so i guess this maybe be able to help you decide .

ZGPAX S29 Quick Review

Hi everybody
I know there are a few reviews of the S29 around but I didn't find them useful for my decision to purchase the S29 so I'm going to throw in my own 2 cents (I'm Australian - if you don't know what 2c means then just google it). Hopefully if you are reading this review you are considering buying an S29 and probably (like me) you are faced with an overwhelming array of different devices and options. My plan is to present information that is helpful.
I decided that I wanted to get a smartwatch about three months ago because I'm a teacher and I don't like it when I miss important texts or phone calls from my wife. When I'm in class I will not bring out my phone, and sometimes I'm so busy teaching I don't even notice the phone vibrating anyway. Sometimes, if I had known that I had gotten a text or phone call, I could have gone at the end of the lesson to the staffroom, sorted things out in a minute, and proceeded to the next lesson.
I was also in a situation where the watch I used for running was really irritating me, and it had no way of telling me how I was going, other than the time it took me to run. If I run the same route, it's fine, but if I do extra bits then I have no way of comparing.
I'm also a bit stingy and a bit wary of buying into the next big thing when the price is high. The prices of first generation smartwatches have come down a fair bit in the last 6 months but I would have to spend at least $120 if not more for something that didn't have a great review of battery life and for something that my wife was telling me was a waste of money.
So, my criteria was that it needed to be cheap, have a battery that would last easily through a full day, show me texts and emails, have some kind of pedometer. I was also looking for some sort of storage just in case (some watches have very, very small amounts of storage) but things like camera, photos, and music weren't a big part of this decision for me.
I narrowed it down to about 10 chinese smartwatches that ranged in price from $30 (U8) to $80. Bear in mind that these were AUD.
As I was wading through all the information I decided that I was really drawn to the fake G2 look. Something about the colour and the icons just seemed attractive - it was just a personal taste thing. It wasn't a game changer for me, but looks count for something.
I really wanted a Bluetooth 4.0 or 4.1 but I decided that it was really going to go above my price range (I didn't really want to spend more than $60AUD) and that pretty much knocked that out. That really meant that the No.1 range was out.
After a lot of deliberation I ended up with the S29 and I have to say that I am really glad that I chose it. I managed to get it from Aliexpress for $55AUD (around $34USD) and I got it from China to me in about 2 and half weeks which is pretty good (so kudos to Aliexpress for that).
Having used it for half a week now, I can tell you a number of things about it. It's never going to beat any kind of Android wear for functionality and the software is fidly, but for what I wanted it is perfect.
The look and feel is great - very comfortable and just like the photos.
The software that you can download by QR scanning is useless on Lollipop so don't bother. I am using the Mediatek app (make sure you get the version that was released April 2015 or later) and it makes sure I get all my texts and emails. I have turned off my accuweather notifications (it didn't show the temperature) and chromecast notifications because they were just annoying and I could probably turn off a lot more. I haven't tried Facebook because I don't allow FB notifications on my phone (too many, too annoying, too distracting).
I have been for a run with it, and I'm pretty sure the pedometer works really well. I say pretty sure because it says mileage, but reads km. I knew the distance I ran and converted it from miles to Km and it was spot on.
Battery life is great. I've had a few days worth of fiddling around and changing things and hardly used any battery to do it. I'm up to day 2 without charging and it's still more than half full (according to the icon). I changed the screen on time to 15sec because I just don't need it to be longer and 15 seconds actually feels like a very long time once I've done what I need to do - it's not like a phone where I might be reading a lot of text and not touch the screen for a while etc.
Sound through the speakers is tinny which I expected but it's clear enough for me to listen to if I want - I just can't control the volume using the phone, and I can't get it through the audio icon (it goes for the bluetooth on the phone and opens up my podcast app - who knows why?) but I can get it through the file manager. The Camera is great for low resolution grainy photos but that's about it. The remote camera for the phone works really well. I accidentally had a conversation with my wife through the bluetooth (I haven't got a sim in it even though there is a spot for it) and it was clear enough and I didn't have to hold the watch up to my mouth and ear.
I have sent texts using the tiny keyboard without too many problems, but it's probably easier to get my phone out really.
I was pleasantly surprised by the "multimedia" function which is just sound or video recording - I haven't tried video, but sound was good enough and simple enough for a quick memo.
The interface is quite good. There's no real lag and mostly it's easy to get to the feature you want.
Here are my problems with it...
There is nothing on the screen normally so to see the time I have to press the button. I can't therefore surreptitiously look at the time.
The bluetooth is quite aggressive and wont let me turn it off if it is connected to my phone. I have to go to my phone settings to swap to my car bluetooth. Thankfully I have "trigger" (an app similar to IFTTT but simpler) and it there were enough options to create a rule to hand over the connection to the car and then back again afterwards without any dramas. I think the fact that I have the 450MH Battery is certainly an important part of the battery life with BT3.0 and I think they have made a good choice with it.
There is no way of recording the pedometer readings. I've tried a few apps but they just don't play nicely with the watch. It's no biggie to me, but if you were interested in that kind of thing then you would want to spend a little bit more for a No.1 watch and use Fundo (though be careful which app you download because fundo isn't a unique app name...) You'd also get a heart rate monitor which might be useful. The S29 tells you that it records your calories burnt, but really it just calculates your steps and comes up with a number of calories that you might have burnt.
The pop up notifications are just enough information to tell you who sent you a text and the first line, likewise with email but it's the name with a subject. I'd probably like a little bit more, but lets face it - it's a watch.
These are only very minor problems and I'm really happy with my purchase. My plan is to use it for about a year and then get something with android wear (or Tizen ... maybe).
At the very least I feel like I know the one feature I will have to have on my next watch is the ability to turn on the screen just by turning my wrist.
I hope this has been useful if you are making a decision about a smartwatch.
Hi! Im planning on buying this ZGPAX S29. Have you tried the Watchmaker app with this? Does it really work?? Thanks in Advance!

Anyone pre-order the Misfit Vapor?

It looks really cool, Amazon keeps having these flash sales on Amazon for $151. Right now you can pre-order it for $199 on their site. What do you guys think of it? Any-one get theirs yet?
https://misfit.com/products/misfit-vapor
I'm interested in hearing from anyone who ordered one/has one as well. Honestly, I'm stunned that a non-flat-tire, not ginormous, waterproof, android wear 2.0 smartwatch with a touch bezel is not getting more notice/media coverage.
It's like all the big review sites said, "Yeah, it's available on the 31st....so what. We had to wait for it too long, so we don't care". It's rather crazy in my mind. There are a few old reviews I can find (when the watch still ran the proprietary OS) but as far as I can find, there are no current reviews with the watch running AW 2.0. Why!?
I really hope some proud new owners chime in and let us know how the watch performs running AW, and some details on real-world use.
The only one that I've seen receive their's is this person. For $199 new, that's pretty good isn't it? A refurb Huawei watch one would cost me $150 at least.
https://www.reddit.com/r/MisfitVapor/comments/7ak9e0/i_received_my_vapor_and_am_willing_answer_any/
Oh, sweet! Good thread there with some pretty good initial info on the watch. Thanks for sharing the link.
Hi I just recieved mine last night and I am now looking around on the web for info/help with it. Ill give my first impressions of it here, Id like to be able to share my thoughts with Misfit so maybe they can take the feedback and improve it.
First off I am a formar Fitbit Surge user and liked it for the fitness attributes it had, before ordering the Vapor I bought a CHEAP $40 Kingware KW18 watch from China to see if id be ok wearing a larger watch such as these are. It had many short commings but also did some cool things.
First impression is the watch is well made and it has a great interface, I really like the touch navigation around the bezel.
Now for what I dont like about it:
- Heart rate monitor has to be manually activated each time and just does a short test. I want to have it on all the time and have the data graphed in the app, I understand that probably is a battery drainer but how about being able to turn it on during workouts so I know what my peak heart rate was riding my cycle up a huge hill for instance.
- Phone call answering - It lets you see an incomming call and decide to hang up or answer it from the watch, but if you answer it from the watch the call actually goes to the phone. You should be able to see the call and if your phone is handy answer it on the phone or if its not (say phone is in my pocket and i am driving) answer it on the watch and talk to the person through the watch as a speaker phone. THe cheap KW18 can do this.
- Displaying of info on the watch face - Id like to be able to select what info is displayed on the watchface, such as steps or calories burned. Seams simple enough, Fitbits, Garmins both can do this and is an expection for most people of a fitness watch.
- Sleep monitor, so I could be missing something when I set it up for this but when I synced it this morning it said I got zero sleep, gee I didnt feel that I got no sleep, I am tired but I did sleep some... If it cannot sense I am in a restful position on its on I hope it doesnt expect me to select something in the watch to say Im now sleeping....
- Charger - It is a non intrusive connection held onto watch with a magnet which is great but it doesnt stay on well at all. The cheap KW18 has a much better charger cable/interface.
- Misfit App - THis is on me as I could have downloaded this before hand and checked it out but basically it is pretty useless. Has very little info in it, does not food/water tracking and has no graphing ability that I could see. Will need to use the watch for a while to see if once there is data it then has graphs available with your daily/weekly/monthly activity...
Sorry to sound negitive but they tout it as a refined fitness watch but fitness is low on their prioritys from what I can see.
~ Phil
mpilihp said:
- Displaying of info on the watch face - Id like to be able to select what info is displayed on the watchface, such as steps or calories burned. Seams simple enough, Fitbits, Garmins both can do this and is an expection for most people of a fitness watch.
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You can change the default watch face info at bottom of screen. Go to change face screen and click settings icon and you can change the 3 icons from in there to link to any app on watch incl Google Fit for steps, calories etc
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You can change the default watch face info at bottom of screen. Go to change face screen and click settings icon and you can change the 3 icons from in there to link to any app on watch incl Google Fit for steps, calories etc
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Hi thanks I did manage to figure that out, a user manual would be nice. It still is not very accurate on the step counting and it isn't tracking sleep at all either.
~ Phil
I have a few to sell if anyone is interested
So update on my Vapor i was told by tech support it does not do sleep tracking at all and heart rate monitoring is a snapshot only when you trigger it.
Have no idea how they can tout the Vapor let alone Misfit as fitness focused.
Im sending mine back and looking at the Garmin vivoactive 3 or the Samsung S2.
Phil
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