Le power button:
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Part of le camera button:
The touch grid:
Pixels!
Screen off:
Speaker's waterproof mesh.
Magnetic charging port:
Headphone jack:
Gap between display glass and body.
Micro SD flap text?
Dat rear camera:
Zee LED Flash:
Front camera:
I immediately looked at my phone's bottom mic hole to look for debris.
Excellent photos. Thanks.
Thing is filthy, clean that damn thing ...
I won't eat spaghetti after watch these picture......
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Thing is filthy, clean that damn thing ...
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It looked pretty clean with the naked eye
The thing is that everything looks filthy under a microscope
That's awesome, thanks for sharing
Lol, pretty awesome (and disturbing ) pics!
I love how the cameras actually look like an eye to me
It is pretty cool, the center being so black that you just cannot see anything in it despite 8 super bright LED's
Very cool images. Was interesting to see from the perspective that the phone is waterproof and what they did to the material/design to make it so.
That freaking gap between the glass and body...
I just sent mine back because of it, hoping it was a fault and that the replacement will be better.
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That freaking gap between the glass and body...
I just sent mine back because of it, hoping it was a fault and that the replacement will be better.
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That is actually the normal gap. The gaps are very small in reality and they are even on all sides of my phone, but look very large with the 200x magnification...
Some units do have an excessively large large gap either top or bottom, but that's not the case for mine.
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That is actually the normal gap. The gaps are very small in reality and they are even on all sides of my phone, but look very large with the 200x magnification...
Some units do have an excessively large large gap either top or bottom, but that's not the case for mine.
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Mine was worst around the corners, and one edge was worse than the other... so a bit uneven I guess. What annoyed me the most was the ease at which dust would settle in it.
Well, that gives me hope for at least some improvement!
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Mine was worst around the corners, and one edge was worse than the other... so a bit uneven I guess. What annoyed me the most was the ease at which dust would settle in it.
Well, that gives me hope for at least some improvement!
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Mine has slightly larger gaps at some corners as well. I just have the impression that the outer parts on Sony's newer phones and tablets are fitted less tightly than their older devices. I do know they intentionally need to leave some gap, because removing the glass is the only way to get to the internals with these new unibody devices.
That may be a reason why the glass eventually breaks easier than on other devices though. Damage to the edges is very critical for hardened glass.
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Mine has slightly larger gaps at some corners as well. I just have the impression that the outer parts on Sony's newer phones and tablets are fitted less tightly than their older devices. I do know they intentionally need to leave some gap, because removing the glass is the only way to get to the internals with these new unibody devices.
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Couldn't they just prise the plastic corner edging off to get to it? On my Z1C there is almost no gap between the glass and that edging, so I find it hard to believe it's necessary now. No, it looks like loose manufacturing/quality controls to me, especially when the severity of it varies between devices...
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Couldn't they just prise the plastic corner edging off to get to it? On my Z1C there is almost no gap between the glass and that edging, so I find it hard to believe it's necessary now. No, it looks like loose manufacturing/quality controls to me, especially when the severity of it varies between devices...
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It doesn't look like it's possible to remove the corners, you can't feel any separation between the corners and the sides, it's as if it's melted together or something.
By the way, the nylon corners don't sit directly against the glass, there is still the plastic rim front and back that goes all around the glass.
I can't see the pics anymore
Going back to the gaps, my top gap is annoying large is filling with sand and dust (pocket crud). Anyone have any pointers to removing this?
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I will try to find an alternative to host the pictures, this thread made my photo bucket bandwidth usage skyrocket from 0 to exceeding 10 GB in a day, LOL.
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Look at picture n°3. I think that the gap problem is explained...
exHERO n°1
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exHERO n°3
Your mad
What's the GAP problem?
How does it explain the gap problem?
Not for me, for people that don't get it, I know, obviously...
Fantastic mate, was just about to do this myself. Could you post a brief guide? How easy is it to get to the screen?
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Look at picture n°3. I think that the gap problem is explained...
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Can you please remove the protective shielding too? I want to see what HTC hides under them...
I was expecting to see LOTS of cramped together electronic components but that seems to be well spread out?
Nice high quality pictures. could you maybe make a guide how to disamble the hero? it will be nice
hope you had a spare 500 quid rather than doing this on a contact phone
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hope you had a spare 500 quid rather than doing this on a contact phone
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Or a Torx driver to just put it back together.
so if i'm interpreting the picture right, the gap which quite alot of us are seeing, is irrelevant really as any dust ingress can't actually get onto the screen due to the seal which the foam forms on the outer case...?
I guess that the screen gap is almost inevitable due to the cut in the seal
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no mate the gap in the screen is further down between the actual touch screen and the outer casing not where you have circled. The gap is to the left where the rubber seal bit is and the part of the ribbon cable you can see is where it actually connects to the touch screen.
Madness but crazy-awsome!
Hi, just got mine today Had a brief luck n there seems to be security stickers n the like all over this guy!
Normally I'd join straight in but gona give this one a miss for a while I think
All the best! (and good luck)
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no mate the gap in the screen is further down between the actual touch screen and the outer casing not where you have circled. The gap is to the left where the rubber seal bit is and the part of the ribbon cable you can see is where it actually connects to the touch screen.
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I'm pretty sure that IS what he circled. If you look at the screen itself, you can see the padding that would be at the top, just below the rubber seal area.
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I'm pretty sure that IS what he circled. If you look at the screen itself, you can see the padding that would be at the top, just below the rubber seal area.
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No its around the edge of the touch screen so its where the touch screen sits in the frame you can't even see any of that foam when the phone is assembled. You can see the rubber seal on the outer casing on that 3rd picture just compare it to what you can see on your phone.
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No its around the edge of the touch screen so its where the touch screen sits in the frame you can't even see any of that foam when the phone is assembled. You can see the rubber seal on the outer casing on that 3rd picture just compare it to what you can see on your phone.
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If that were the case, and the area circled was not the part where the rubber seal was, then the rubber seal would be approximately 3/4" below the top of the phone, rather than 3/8" of an inch (approximation). You can see where the speaker is on the white plastic case, and by looking at the outside of the phone, the rubber seal is literally JUST below that. For the rubber seal to be where the clear screen is wouldn't work proportionately.
Similarities to Blackstone like cam etc.
But disassembling seems to be much easier than Blackstone.
Hope we'll get much more spare parts compared to Blackstone.
Just an FYI for people.
A screen protector is always a good investment, it also does a great job of keeping finer prints down.
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Just an FYI for people.
A screen protector is always a good investment, it also does a great job of keeping finer prints down.
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Was there really a need for a thread saying you can scratch glass? Not being a jerk, just wondering
Also a heads up, if you punt it across the room it might break.
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Was there really a need for a thread saying you can scratch glass? Not being a jerk, just wondering
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Yes, this is in regards to posts in the availability thread at the top. You would be surprised at the amount of people that think Gorilla Glass is impervious to all scratches.
also get a matte screen cover that glossy ass screen for the LOSS
Another FYI for people is you should always walk around with a surgical mask and rubber gloves on because that'll reduce you risk of catching any germs!
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Another FYI for people is you should always walk around with a surgical mask and rubber gloves on because that'll reduce you risk of catching any germs!
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I tend to resell my tablets & cellphones when I upgrade so having a screen protector on them is a must. Plus, I rather be safe than sorry.
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Waiting on Steinheil ultra clear protector.
Have that on my Evo and it's great. So much better than zagg/invisiblesheild/etc.
I like the zagg/invisible shield for the reason most hate them, the orange peel.
Feels better, and it destroys fingerprints, and glare.
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Yes, this is in regards to posts in the availability thread at the top. You would be surprised at the amount of people that think Gorilla Glass is impervious to all scratches.
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I posted in that thread about me not using a screen protector. I don't put my device in a position that it would be that likely to get scratched. nothing is impervious, but you'd be surprised at how tough good glass can be. I just can't stand how my device looks and feels after putting on any screen protector.
In my experience with Gorilla Glass (on my Droid X) I haven't put a screen protector and the screen is still flawless. I have had it sitting on my lap in my SUV and as I exited the car it fell face down on the asphalt. Metal was nicked, screen was gorgeous as ever...
With a tablet... who's going to drop a tablet... Dont waste your money.
unless you grind sand or a diamond on your screen then you really don't need a screen protector....
Other things that might break the screen like dropping it from an airplane will more than likely break the plastic shell of the tab plus the processor and anything inside..
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unless you grind sand or a diamond on your screen then you really don't need a screen protector....
Other things that might break the screen like dropping it from an airplane will more than likely break the plastic shell of the tab plus the processor and anything inside..
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Yeah, wrong. I scratched my iPhone with a ruler. And I scratched my EVO with a screwdriver.
It happens.
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Yeah, wrong. I scratched my iPhone with a ruler. And I scratched my EVO with a screwdriver.
It happens.
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were you purposely trying to scratch your device?
I can't imagine your phones getting scratched by a screwdriver or ruler unless you were purposely trying to do so. You would of had to used a lot of force and purposely and aggressively rub the ruler/screwdriver on your device...
The thing is... Who in their right mind would do that?
Gorilla glass does scratch. if you are unlucky it can scratch given a fairly light contact with the wrong item!
It is much better than standard glass. It IS scratch resistant. But it CAN scratch!!
I have a couple of scratches on my Dell Streak from being in contact with keys.
I also have a scuff, across the screen, from dropping on the road.
However.. I won't be putting on a screen protector on my tablet. When I carry it, it wont be in my pocket, it will be in a neoprene case.
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Gorilla glass does scratch. if you are unlucky it can scratch given a fairly light contact with the wrong item!
It is much better than standard glass. It IS scratch resistant. But it CAN scratch!!
I have a couple of scratches on my Dell Streak from being in contact with keys.
I also have a scuff, across the screen, from dropping on the road.
However.. I won't be putting on a screen protector on my tablet. When I carry it, it wont be in my pocket, it will be in a neoprene case.
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gorilla glass can definitely get scratched, however i'v had my phone in my pocket with my keys plenty of times and the screen has never been harmed... The way I see it, if I do something terrible enough to my device that leads to the screen scratching then more than likely I probably destroyed the entire thing.
ive scratched my transformer, not sure how it happened!
So I, like many others, am looking to buy a nexus 4 for Christmas. The lack of LTE means nothing to me as I'm in the UK and can't afford it anyway, so it seems like a pretty sweet deal, however one thing is bothering me...
Many reviews have shown that the back glass can crack relatively easily, and while usually I wouldn't call this a deal breaker, I had a horrible realisation. The nexus 4 is designed in such a way that the back glass acts seamlessly as the cameras lens cover, so if the back cracks, there is a fair chance that the crack could go right down the middle of the camera. Furthermore, like the nexus 7, the back cover actually has components on it, so it may not be a cheap or easy replacement.
I would hate to have my camera ruined because of a poor design choice. So has anyone seen anything around that may reassure me? Is the lens cover a separate piece of glass and it just looks continuous? Or does this seem like a real issue?
The strange seamless camera cover looks cool but may turn out to be a problem.
Good point here.. I really hate putting covers on my phones but in this case... I think I should..
The phone is fairly large as it is, a case just to avoid the camera cracking because of poor design is really disheartening for me
I see what you mean. They should've put a rim around the camera lens separating the two, as they did for the flash...
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I wouldn't worry - that glass isnt the camera lens, its a bit of glass *above* the lens. The lens is the little round thing you see underneath.
It a crack goes straight through the middle of it, it would make minimal, if any, difference to photos, except maybe some loss of light gathering.
Wouldn't be the lens that cracks, only the lens front element. In photography in general, front elements can be quite beat up without producing any visible clues what so ever on the resulting images. Check out this web page: kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html
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I wouldn't worry - that glass isnt the camera lens, its a of glass *above* the lens. The lens is the little round thing you see underneath.
It a crack goes straight through the middle of it, it would make minimal, if any, difference to photos, except maybe some loss of light gathering.
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Apologies I should have made the thread title clearer, I meant the lens cover.
Nice to know it shouldn't make too much difference. I guess if the crack is thick enough to make a difference then I'd probably get a replacement under insurance anyway.
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Wouldn't be the lens that cracks, only the lens front element. In photography in general, front elements can be quite beat up without producing any visible clues what so ever on the resulting images. Check out this web page: kurtmunger.com/dirty_lens_articleid35.html
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Thanks for the link! Again as with above I should change the title, I didn't mean the lens I meant the cover. I didn't realise it makes such little difference though. Thanks
I was thinking of a similar issue for the screen. I read somewhere that the glass and the digitizer in this phone aren't two different layer on the actual pixels, but one. Thats make the screen more vivid as the pixels are closer to the glass.
So if we crack the gorilla glass, automatically the touch screen will be unusable. Am I right?
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that's exactly what happened with the verge's review nexus - in the video they say the back cracked after a fall, and the crack is very close to the camera, pic here: linky
in this case the camera was not affected but the rim of the flash probably makes that area of the glass weaker.
Just don't drop it, I guess
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good point, didnt think about that
im sure it wont be a big problem though. if it is, theyll probably sell alternate back plates... if...
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good point, didnt think about that
im sure it wont be a big problem though. if it is, theyll probably sell alternate back plates... if...
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I'd have thought they would for the Nexus 7 to be honest but that hasn't happened yet. At least not easily. But yeah, if it does become a problem hopefully there will be enough pressure for them to start manufacturing and selling replacements.
Didn't even notice that. Reinforces my thoughts of getting a good case.
Any phone can be smashed, that's what's insurance is for.
FYI, the reason they have the rim around the flash is so that it doesn't cause the "flashback" problem and interfere with your pictures. If you've had an iPhone and didn't have a case with the larger camera/flash cutout or the black ring around the inside of the cutout, you know what I'm talking about. The flash can actually wash out pictures. The rim around the flash on the Nexus 4 solves this problem by isolating the flash from the camera lens.
Looking at the metal edges on the 6P reminds me of the edges on my old Note 4. The thing I'm thinking is that my Note 4s edges got scratched to hell and eventually looked a mess, even with a case on. It seemed small particles of dirt and dust gets into the case and scratches the soft metal.
I wonder if we'll have the same problem with the N6P?
Not to worry, enjoy the party here on XDA til the N6P arrives!
Then it will all be sorted with hands on this cool device!
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Looking at the metal edges on the 6P reminds me of the edges on my old Note 4. The thing I'm thinking is that my Note 4s edges got scratched to hell and eventually looked a mess, even with a case on. It seemed small particles of dirt and dust gets into the case and scratches the soft metal.
I wonder if we'll have the same problem with the N6P?
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My friend and I were wondering the exact same thing. I'm hoping that b/c the body is metal, it won't have the same problem that the Note 4 has since that was plastic.
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Oh god that's beautiful. Canttttt waittttttt
I had the same issue with those edges on my HTC M8. They got scratched up as well and they were metal. I am definitely worried about it.
Got those edges on my silver HTC M7 and while if you look very close you can see some ,just holding it normally you can not tell,my stand out more on the graphite one though
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Anyone now if the chamfered edges on the graphite version are shiny silver too?
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Anyone now if the chamfered edges on the graphite version are shiny silver too?
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From the look of the graphite version, they weren't shiny.
Those shiny edges are going to get scratched up badly, in one of the videos showing them off, you can see scratches on them already.
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I plan to skin it, so I'm not concerned, but damn that is one sexy phone!!
TIL chamfer is the term for flattening the corner of an object, usually in furniture.
Google search the wear on both the black and white iPhone 5. They had chamfered edges, anodized aluminum. The wear is pretty much proportional to how often you have a case on. The chamfers will wear heavier than the rest.
IMO black wears much worse (visibly) than white but it depends if you mind having battle wounds stand out or not. I have friends who like having the silver show through the black. In the end you're only going to replace it in two - three years anyhow.
This will shine up anything, it will take the scratches out.
mothers polish
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Google search the wear on both the black and white iPhone 5. They had chamfered edges, anodized aluminum. The wear is pretty much proportional to how often you have a case on. The chamfers will wear heavier than the rest.
IMO black wears much worse (visibly) than white but it depends if you mind having battle wounds stand out or not. I have friends who like having the silver show through the black. In the end you're only going to replace it in two - three years anyhow.
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your comment confuses me. a case wears the camfers quicker or the lack of one?
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your comment confuses me. a case wears the camfers quicker or the lack of one?
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A lack of case causes more rapid wear.
thank
I've used a defender case for nearly a decade. I work in an industrial environment and need maximum protection. I also enjoy the holster, especially with a phone this big!
After trying a couple of useless TGSPs, and reading the raving reviews for the Whitestone Dome, I knew I had to make it work.
The TGSP installation went perfectly, and 5 minutes of carving with a craft knife was all it took until the Defender fitted perfectly!
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I've used a defender case for nearly a decade. I work in an industrial environment and need maximum protection. I also enjoy the holster, especially with a phone this big!
After trying a couple of useless TGSPs, and reading the raving reviews for the Whitestone Dome, I knew I had to make it work.
The TGSP installation went perfectly, and 5 minutes of carving with a craft knife was all it took until the Defender fitted perfectly!View attachment 4493281View attachment 4493282View attachment 4493283
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Could you take a picture of it installed from the side profile? I'm curious how high the edges of the case go, relative to the screen glass.
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Could you take a picture of it installed from the side profile? I'm curious how high the edges of the case go, relative to the screen glass.
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Good enough?
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Good enough?View attachment 4494309
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Thank you.
If I'm seeing it correctly, if you took a ruler and layed it across the middle of the phone it would be laying directly on the glass, not touching the edges at all. Correct?
Even if that is the true, the sides still look a little higher than I have seen on most other cases. That's a good thing.
Correct.
This makes me nervous as if the phone falls on an edge, the outcome would not be good.
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Correct.
This makes me nervous as if the phone falls on an edge, the outcome would not be good.
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Actually, it's worse than than. Even if your phone falls perfectly flat, face down on a flat surface, the high bumpers on the top/bottom will hit, with nothing in the middle of the long stretch. This will result in the phone bending/flexing in the middle. Glass isn't meant to flex like that. The result is likely breakage. It's like the phone screen is designed to break almost no matter what sort of impact there is.
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Actually, it's worse than than. Even if your phone falls perfectly flat, face down on a flat surface, the high bumpers on the top/bottom will hit, with nothing in the middle of the long stretch. This will result in the phone bending/flexing in the middle. Glass isn't meant to flex like that. The result is likely breakage. It's like the phone screen is designed to break almost no matter what sort of impact there is.
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It depends on how the case. Watch this UAG drop test, especially falling on the screen side
Hey, where exactly did you shave off the plastic?. I'm looking to get a defender and want to use the Dome glass protector as it seems to be the best thanks
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Hey, where exactly did you shave off the plastic?. I'm looking to get a defender and want to use the Dome glass protector as it seems to be the best thanks
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If you look at the first picture in the OP, you just need to carve out the two top corners a little.
They are the only two places the case interferes with the whitestone.
I fitted the whitestone first, and left it overnight to properly cure.
Then I offered the top hard section of the case to the phone and scored (with a craft knife) the inside edges of the notch at the top of the whitestone.
After removing the top of the case, I started removing material from the corners, a little at a time.
Keep trying to fit the case, then carve a bit more, until it fits.
It only took a few minutes.....
That's awesome, this might be the way to go for me then as I currently have the Supcase full body armour one. I love everything about it except the plastic screen protector which is all scratched up after only two weeks. I'm babying this new phone to so it's quite disheartening
The OtterBox Pursuit series fits perfectly with the WhiteStone Done, I'd go as far as to say it's the perfect combination for protecting the S9+.
I have the Otter Box Defender because I work construction and it has proven it's the best on my S5, V20 and now S9 Plus . Just ordered the Whitestone Dome too on Amazon cus my wife had a discount and I got $10 off .
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Privacy screen protector and no shaving down the Defender.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=77152357&postcount=142
Would like to ask you (Otterbox Defender+WSD glass user) whether you got change your casing a lot? Or take out the casing to change your SIM Cards? Or you never take out at all?
If you got take out the casing a lot of times, will the case push the glass out?
Just to clarify did you carve before you applied the protector or once it had been adhered to the cell phone?