Meh, might as well. Repost from OnePlus Forums.
Update: finally added the Note 2 battery's weight
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I should add that I facilitate no allegiance to any particular phone brand, nor am I sponsored by any phone brand. I work for myself, and make my own decisions based on fact, not personal biases. I love the OnePlus One as a phone, I just don't like what the company is doing to their customers.
It all started when I created a thread about the iPhone 5C's battery being able to be upgraded. I was then met with the question: "Why didn't OnePlus make the battery on its One removable? Another manufacturer, Samsung, could make a phone that had a larger removable battery in a form factor that was thinner and shorter than the OPO, even with the addition of a MicroSD slot and a USB 3.0 port." I was informed that OnePlus chose to make their battery non-removable, because if they did, it would end up being a 2500 mAh cell, 80% that of the current 3100 mAh, due to the inclusion of a protective shell, regulatory circuitry, spring contacts etc.
Then I thought, "Weird; the 5" Samsung Galaxy S4 has a removable battery, but it has a 2600 mAh battery!" So to settle things once and for all (for now), I went ahead and disassembled my OnePlus One, to compare its internal battery's volume with a removable equivalent, the Samsung Galaxy Note 2's (also 3100 mAh). Seeing that OnePlus warranty is near non-existent anyway, even if the phone did fail or malfunction due to manufacturer fault, I'd just get another phone to save the trouble of going through RMA hell.
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Now, I'm not going to dissect the batteries; rechargeable cells are very dangerous, and can explode if punctured. So, I measured the dimensions of both batteries to calculate their respective volumes. I didn't have a digital scale on me, so I couldn't calculate the energy density of Li-ion (Note 2) vs. LiPo (OPO).
The dimensions (in milimeters) of the batteries are as follows:
OnePlus One
Length: 83.39 mm
Width: 57.84 mm
Thickness: 4.38 mm
Volume: 21125.96 cubic mm
Energy Density (power/weight): 230.98 Wh/kg
Volumetric Mass Density (weight/volume): 0.0024 g/cubic mm
Note 2
Length: 75.00 mm
Width: 55.44 mm
Thickness: 5.65 mm
Volume: 23492.7 cubic mm
Energy Density (power/weight): 226.54 Wh/kg
Volumetric Mass Density (weight/volume): 0.0022 g/cubic mm
This makes the volume of the OnePlus One's battery 89.9% that of the Note 2's, so the percentage difference is only 10.1%. Keep in mind that this is lithium ion vs. lithium polymer. Li-ions need more protective circuitry to prevent overcharging and exploding and whatnot, compared to their LiPo counterparts. And from what I heard, LiPos have a higher energy density than Li-ions, which is why I wanted to calculate how much the batteries weighed as well.
Edit: The OnePlus One's battery has a comparatively higher energy density (1.8% higher), a smaller volume, and a higher mass density (8.3%!!!!) than the Note 2's, meaning a LiPo battery should provide more power than a Li-ion of the same weight and volume. But, since the difference is so small, it's probably going to cancel out once we take into account the protective shell and protection circuits and whatnot. In conclusion, the point below still stands due to the negligible difference because it is calculated based on the removable equivalent having around the same specifications.
Just going by these numbers, a removable equivalent for the OnePlus should be roughly 2780 mAh (10.4% decrease), not 2500 as OnePlus has claimed (a ~20% decrease). Of course, this is inconclusive, but this should give you a better idea of what's actually happening here.
The Galaxy S4 featured here is the LTE-A version, sporting a Snapdragon 800 chipset, more closely related to the OPO's Snapdragon 801 compared to the Snapdragon 600 S4.
I have discovered that the OnePlus's processor may not be adequately cooled. Since smartphones are passive devices, they aren't actively cooled by fans like computers are, so they rely on heat dissipation through the use of a heatsink of some sort.
The Samsung Galaxy S4's chassis is made of magnesium alloy, just not as abundantly so as the OPO. The logic board well is form-fitting, and there are thermal pads that contact the underside of the logic board to the chassis in order to dissipate heat. Since the chassis is so big, heat is easily dissipated.
The OPO, however, looks like it's insulated at the area where the chipset is closest to the chassis with what seems to be carbon paper/film. Now, I'm no materials expert (and correct me if I'm wrong), but I'm pretty sure carbon in this state should act as an insulator. I say this because iPhones use the same stuff on the chassis to protect the LCD from heat damage (on the iPhone, the film is on the LCD side and not the logic board side).
On the underside of the logic board, we see that there's a steel cage covering the on-board components, covered by a thermal pad.
What does this mean? It means that under load, a Samsung phone will feel hotter to the touch, because that's the passive cooling system in action. In the case of the OnePlus one, it might not feel as hot as a Samsung under similar loads, but when it does get hot, it's really, really hot. So hot that the small heatsink and carbon film can't contain or dissipate it.
For size comparison purposes, here's the Galaxy S4's logic board next to the OPO's. Remember that the S4 is a 5 inch phone.
Assembly was probably quite sloppy; the tape used to insulate the speaker contacts is off-center on the left speaker.
The weak vibrate motor cannot be upgraded, as it is soldered to the flex.
The earpiece grille is centered on the front of the phone, but it is offset to the left internally because the camera module takes up the space in the center, as can be seen below. This may or may not contribute to the low earpiece volume, since it is channeled.
The rear microphone (pictured below) is also offset slightly lower than the hole next to the rear camera. Outside, the hole is parallel to the center-point of the camera lens, but internally, it is parallel to the top of the flash LED closest to the camera. I'm not sure how effective this placement is. The top microphone (refer to picture above, left of front camera hole) is channeled.
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This is what i call informative!Thank you @vantt1
Very informative, thank you.
Thanks was it that difficult?
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Thank You. So how hard would it be to replace the battery when the original starts dying?
Good work!
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This was amazingly informative, one of the best posts I've seen in awhile! Kudos mate
It's hard to tell the thermal conductivity of carbon because it largely depends on the allotrope (type of carbon).
carbon is an excellent heat conductor, it even better than metal.
janice1234 said:
carbon is an excellent heat conductor, it even better than metal.
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It depends on what form of carbon - some are excellent but others are mediocre, at best.
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Not that difficult, I've had difficult-er
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It's hard to tell the thermal conductivity of carbon because it largely depends on the allotrope (type of carbon).
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Yeah, that's why I was "pretty sure" and not "completely sure". I have yet to find any straight answers as to whether if carbon is a conductor or insulator.
I know for a fact that iPhones have a similar sticker on their chassis. It's found on the midframe between the LCD and the logic board, and it is stuck on the LCD side. It is commonly called the heat shield, meaning it protects the LCD from the logic board's heat. Since it's on the LCD side and not the logic board side, I'm more inclined to think it's an insulator.
iPhone 4:
iPhone 5S:
It would make no sense for it to be a conductor, or else it'd conduct the heat to the LCD.
Great informative post... Thx for the teardown.
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Great post, thank you
Worth it to just to see the rd battery !!!
nice work thanks,
I'll open mine as soon they release the kevlar back ! :silly:
Does LiPo also have a limited number of charges like Li-ion? Will we have to deal with shorter battery life as it ages?
nice work!
nice work!
Thank you so much!
Thanks,
Excellent work. You're a braver man than I for sure!!!!!!
Question: Did you get it back together and did it work???
Seems like a lot of us are like 12 year old little boys.
Take it apart and worry about the rest later, right???
Ken
notesbancales said:
Worth it to just to see the rd battery !!!
nice work thanks,
I'll open mine as soon they release the kevlar back ! :silly:
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I think OnePlus canceled all the StyleSwap covers for good.
clevebb said:
Does LiPo also have a limited number of charges like Li-ion? Will we have to deal with shorter battery life as it ages?
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Yes, it does. All batteries, li-ion and LiPo, will decrease in capacity the more charge cycles it goes through.
kenfb1 said:
Thanks,
Excellent work. You're a braver man than I for sure!!!!!!
Question: Did you get it back together and did it work???
Seems like a lot of us are like 12 year old little boys.
Take it apart and worry about the rest later, right???
Ken
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Of course!
Very detailed indeed, so how hard do you think it is to replace the screen/digitizer?
Thanks
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Just got my Mugen Power 3000mAh battery with a designated rear cover.
I will be doing more testing of the battery itself in a few days, but I wanted to share my impression on the rear cover.
1. Design
Well, it is what it is. I did not expect fireworks and I do not really care about the design anyway. The satin surface does not match the rest of the case. The silver insert for the camera does not really match anything, but I doubt it will cause any reflexes and negatively affect the pictures.
2. Quality of manufacturing
It is SO BAD I cannot believe any manufacturer would ever release anything of that quality. It looks like the cheapest plastic manually formed and cut with a kitchen knife. The lines are bended, the fit of the rear cover to the rest of the case is not there and the silver insert looks like it is going to detach any time. Disaster.
Conclusion:
Well, I hope the battery itself is of a better quality, but after seeing the cover I have all the worst impressions about Mugen Power products.
If you plan to show off you new phone from time to time, avoid it at all cost.
If you want additional anti-theft protection, get one. It makes the whole phone looks so cheap that no thief would ever think about stealing your phone.
ha. Well I'll be eager to hear how well the battery works - this is the one that I'm acutally considering because I want more juice baby! Luckly I'm kinda like you - more interested in function or form - but what a shame that the battery cover is such a cheap piece of crap.
ya for some reason all windows mobile phones use alot of power i had a nokia 5800 it would last really long compared to all windows mobile phones i have including the fuze
I bought the battery when it first came out and I still have it to this day. After a few days of it being in my pocket (since there isn't a case that fits it) jiggling around with my pocket knife and loose change it got scratched all to hell.
Besides being made fun of by co-workers for its extreme size and having them put 'ACME' labels on it the battery did just what it was supposed to do. Minimize downtime for charging and increase the life of the phone.
The cover is far from pretty and I have seen some people take them off and dye them with the RITZ dyes from WalMart. I've seen some pretty neat work so that may be something you can look in to...
I still find myself using the standard battery for day-to-day use and I have grown away from using the extended battery except on long trips. Overall I would give it a 9/10 because it does exactly what it's supposed to do minus the appearance.
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I'm A Heavy User... Work Is Boring... Lol...
Your back cover looks vastly different than mine. is yours for the GSM or CDMA? My original back cover fit like crap and the company naked cellphone sent me a new one at no cost, never had a problem since. Sure, it's a bit bigger but I like it. It makes typing on the keyboard easier with the added depth of the device.
apollumi said:
I bought the battery when it first came out and I still have it to this day. After a few days of it being in my pocket (since there isn't a case that fits it) jiggling around with my pocket knife and loose change it got scratched all to hell.
Besides being made fun of by co-workers for its extreme size and having them put 'ACME' labels on it the battery did just what it was supposed to do. Minimize downtime for charging and increase the life of the phone.
The cover is far from pretty and I have seen some people take them off and dye them with the RITZ dyes from WalMart. I've seen some pretty neat work so that may be something you can look in to...
I still find myself using the standard battery for day-to-day use and I have grown away from using the extended battery except on long trips. Overall I would give it a 9/10 because it does exactly what it's supposed to do minus the appearance.
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And yeah, those pics look awful.
I've got the Fosmon® High Capacity 2400mAh, and its about the same physical size as the mugen. I don't mind the size at all, feel compfortable in my hand, I like the Fosmon, becuase its alot cheaper, and the back cover is the exact glossy black as the the rest of the FUZE. Tbattery app only shows 1340mah don't know if this is a limitation to the software, or the battery not reporting correctly.
The fosmon back cover although visual nice, is very flimsy, and scratches very easy, I order the Mugen cover only to see how it looks, but from pictures it seems to have more of a matte rubbery finish, which will clash
Dalamak said:
I've got the Fosmon® High Capacity 2400mAh, and its about the same physical size as the mugen. I don't mind the size at all, feel compfortable in my hand, I like the Fosmon, becuase its alot cheaper, and the back cover is the exact glossy black as the the rest of the FUZE. Tbattery app only shows 1340mah don't know if this is a limitation to the software, or the battery not reporting correctly.
The fosmon back cover although visual nice, is very flimsy, and scratches very easy, I order the Mugen cover only to see how it looks, but from pictures it seems to have more of a matte rubbery finish, which will clash
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Could you possibly provide a link as to where you bought this battery?
I returned Mugen Super Extended Battery 3000mAh and got Fosmon® High Capacity 2400mAh at Amazon.
The quality of the cover is WAY better, both design and manufacturing. The design is similar to the original cover: glossy (matches the rest of the phone) and slightly better shaped (imho). The area around the camera and LED is recessed, which in my opinion is better design then Mugen. The quality is much better, no distorted lines, quite good fitting to the rest of the case. It is one piece (Mugen was two), so not problem with fitting between parts. The only thing that look a bit cheap is a silver painting around the camera and LED that they could skip at all.
Considering Fosmon is 7.5 times cheaper than Mugen, even if I have to sacrifice a bit of the battery itself I can live with that.
u can have fosmon 2400 at
http://www.amazon.com/Fosmon®-Capacity-2400mAh-Rechargeable-Neckstrap/dp/B0028OYO08
For those of you who use extended battery, how's the battery meter? I mean does it shows correct percentage until the last drop?
This is pretty good about to order one for myself
http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...590223&q_manufacturer=htc&q_model=prod3010219
I bought a 2500mha extended battery for my fuze and bought the htc oem extended battery back cover, this combination works and looks perfect.
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I bought a 2500mha extended battery for my fuze and bought the htc oem extended battery back cover, this combination works and looks perfect.
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Hi rafyvitto, where did you buy the oem batt back cover? I'm thinking to get it myself. Thanks
u2pop said:
Hi rafyvitto, where did you buy the oem batt back cover? I'm thinking to get it myself. Thanks
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I bought it off ebay for 12$ free shipping.
Take a look at this: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
It doesn't look good. This Galaxy S III apparently malfunctioned while in an in-car holster, causing some substantial melting and burn marks across the lower half of the device. The global HSPA+ iteration of Samsung's new flagship apparently sparked into white flames, followed by a bang. As you can see the damage -- along the base but separate to the charging port -- looks pretty substantial and while the screen still apparently worked, reception was dead. The phone has been whisked off to a repair center through phone retailer Carphone Warehouse for the full autopsy. User dillo2k10 was left unscathed, but it's apparently left some nasty molten plastic remain on the inside of his car. Hit up the gallery link below if you're into scorch-marked phones.
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Image: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/meltedsgsiii.jpg
What do you think about it?
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Take a look at this: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/20/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-melts/
Image: http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2012/06/meltedsgsiii.jpg
What do you think about it?
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I think this is going to be great ammunition for Apple, HTC, and even North American GS3 fans. Haha
Although from my personal experience, the GS3 runs cooler than the GS2 but slightly warmer than the HTC One XL in normal use. However, while charging the GS3 is cool as cucumber but the One XL heats up during charging.
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I think this is going to be great ammunition for Apple, HTC, and even North American GS3 fans. Haha
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I agree, looking at some of the comments on engaget, is seems some fanboys are already doing exactly that.
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Although from my personal experience, the GS3 runs cooler than the GS2 .
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Yep, same here and my S2 never managed to fry itself. Still, these things happen (even to the...gasp... iPhone... Maybe Apple will sue Samsung for "copying" that too) . More seriously though I'm sure there must be some statistics somewhere about mobiles catching fire.
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The batteries in all cell phones have enough energy to do this given the right conditions. Sell millions, and it's bound to happen a few times. Been happening to iPhones for years.
Mike
I think the in-car holster bit will be something to do with it, probably had it running satnav software while on a mount on the windscreen on a hot day and the battery blew.
maybe the user use after market batteries ?
this one burst into flames!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79312161&utm_source
1SiK1500 said:
this one burst into flames!
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=79312161&utm_source
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Same phone...
Tachikoma_kun said:
Same phone...
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Lol I am blonde..
Hot weather and extend exposed to sunlight, overheat causing process and overload multitasking, malfunctioning car adapter and charging cable, unstable current from car jack.
What a surprise.
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hmm it's kinda weird or a phone to not be connected to exploded isn't it? personally my iPhone charger tried to kill me when I charged it
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Radukk said:
Hot weather and extend exposed to sunlight, overheat causing process and overload multitasking, malfunctioning car adapter and charging cable, unstable current from car jack.
What a surprise.
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the guy said it wasn't plugge in
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the guy said it wasn't plugge in
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I really think the guy was using the phone in some unadvisable way to make that happen.
(Upper left corner on the PCB)
Seems like a capacitor which blew up. Probably used some ****ty charger in his car.
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(Upper left corner on the PCB)
Seems like a capacitor which blew up. Probably used some ****ty charger in his car.
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he said the holster was mainly used to hold the phone not charge it maybe he left it in the car for too long?
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Sorry to say but that really doesn't look like a battery problem, more like the hardware itself blew!
Here are the best pics of the damaged phones:
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79312161&postcount=15
You'll see that the battery is intact and far away from the blackened region.
Now take a look at the logic board layout:
RED: Murata M2322007 WiFi Module
ORANGE: Samsung Exynos 4412 quad-core A9 processor with 1 GB LP DDR2 Green Memory (K3PE7E700M-XGC2)
YELLOW: Samsung KMVTU000LM eMMC(16GB)+MDDR(64MB) NAND Flash
CYAN: Intel Wireless PMB9811X Gold Baseband processor
BLUE: MAX77693 and MAX77686
PINK: Broadcom BCM47511 Integrated Monolithic GNSS Receiver
BLACK: 33ODC 2214 4TP AC
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RED: Wolfson Microelectronics WM1811 stereo codec
ORANGE: Skyworks SKY77604 Multi-Band Power amplifier
BLUE: Silicon Image 9244 low-power MHL Transmitter
CYAN: NXP PN544 NFC Chip.
YELLOW: Infineon PMB5712 RF transceiver
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http://guide-images.ifixit.net/igi/iSxZ1SQMJAKAnXZo.large
The first logicboard-picture shows the phone from front, the latter from behind.
(Easily identifyable by the telltale USB-plug and battery connectors)
According to the pictures of the damaged phone it's on the left side of the USB-plug when looking at the phone from behind (or the right side from front).
On the front we got in that direction:
- CYAN: Intel Wireless PMB9811X Gold Baseband processor
- ORANGE: Samsung Exynos 4412 quad-core A9 processor with 1 GB LP DDR2
On the back we got in that direction:
- ORANGE: Skyworks SKY77604 Multi-Band Power amplifier
- BLUE: Silicon Image 9244 low-power MHL Transmitter
- CYAN: NXP PN544 NFC Chip.
I don't think the MHL or NFC chips were in active usage, so the most likely candidates are:
- ORANGE: Skyworks SKY77604 Multi-Band Power amplifier
- ORANGE: Samsung Exynos 4412 quad-core A9 processor with 1 GB LP DDR2
Since the Skyworks is positioned nearly behind the USB plug and it _looks_ like the origin is more to the side, I'd wager a guess that the Exynos has blown.
After re-reading the forum post which states that the device still works but has no reception I believe it's the Skyworks amplifier which blew. It certainly has the high-frequency, power output and periphery which could lead to such a desaster. The rest of the psot still applies
If that's true; had the user overclocked his device and played around with CPU/GPU voltages? (That can easily cause it to abruptly overheat and die, but I'm not sure that it would show to such an extend)
It looks more like the core or glue/plastic burst into flames from high temperature either due to a manufacturing fault, overclocking or keeping the phone with enabled GPS navigation in a car under direct sunlight and no air conditioning.
I've had several electronical devices (thermometers,...) melt on me when leaving them under the windshield while keeping the car parked in the summer. So even if the device powered itself off when overheating, a possible scenario is the owner getting back in the car, noticing that the phone is turned off and turning it on. The overheat protection does not kick in (maybe because it takes some time to initialize or maybe the phone was already damaged from the heat) and the core immediatly reaches temperatures far beyond his specification. Boom...
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Seems like a capacitor which blew up.
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While capacitor failure _may_ look like this (I've seen my fair share in power supplies and on motherboard CPU power-converters) there are no capacitors in the mobile with a sufficiently large capacity and hardware size for such an intense blow-up.
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Re-Read forum post of the linked thread. The device is still functional but no reception, so it's not the CPU. (Thanks to my girlfriend for pointing it out)
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he said the holster was mainly used to hold the phone not charge it maybe he left it in the car for too long?
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I missed that part. Capacitor blowing up just like that hrmm.
WAIT! Stupid me. That's actually a microphone. Hahaha
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While capacitor failure _may_ look like this (I've seen my fair share in power supplies and on motherboard CPU power-converters) there are no capacitors in the mobile with a sufficiently large capacity and hardware size for such an intense blow-up.
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It seems like a capacitive microphone. Doesn't really need to be the blowup itself doing the damage but the short-circuit after it.
I missed that part.
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You're not the only one. I missed the part about the device still being (somewhat) functional afterwards but not having any network connection.
(My girlfriend was so kind as to point me to it)
As a result I've updated m conclusion that it most likely is the amplifier even tough it's seated somewhat more centered.
Well we all knew the phone was gonna be hot, but not this hot.
(WTF is wrong with you people? It took this many posts for someone to throw out the obvious joke?)
As you may know, our beloved smartphone suffers from some overheating problem, due to the powerful Snapdragon 810 that use.
Its cores are the real "cores" of the problem: Qualcomm has adopted pure ARM reference design instead their revised versions, that creates more trouble than it should;
No custom kernel or other things really solve the problem and the results are bad performances in heavy load scenario (multitasking or gaming) and more heat than usual.
To be honest, I never had any particular problems with my M9, but wanted to try something that I also done on my old M7: disassemble the phone and apply a serious-level thermal grease to make sure to put processor die in contact with the metal body!
Well, let's start!
Here's what I am faced: a carefully disassembled One M9 (iFixit exhaustively explains how to do that) and, at my discretion, the best thermal paste on the market, the Artic MX-4.
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Now i gently opened the metal coverage of components and ... There is our processor!
At this point, i have to remove the old (and inefficient) thermal pad applied by the factory.
-In the photo i've already partially removed it.
The instant after the compound application.
Pressure will definitely flatten it; it's also a large surplus but in that way i'm sure that it will cover the entire surface of the processor and also the surroundings. (no problem, it does not conduct electricity)
After closing the coverage, I applied a dose of thermal paste also on it, to bring together the processor with the outside of the smartphone, according to the scheme below.
Now we're ready to clo...HEY! wait, wait, wait, is a missing screw what I just saw?
YES! and also explains my perception of the slightly lower volume from the bottom speaker!
Fortunately, M7 screw are compatible... screwed and fixed!
... is not an oversight that I would expect from this flagship device...
...as I was saying, I reassembled the smartphone.
No one will notice anything, like new!
And now, you will expect results ... here they are!
I made this improvement more than one month ago, at the time I done many many tests, i also take screenshots, but they're totally useless at the moment, because what you should know is the following;
In addition to the significant drop in temperature outside of the phone, as I noticed with my old M7, I have seen an unexpected increase in battery life of 10% of the daily average, really not bad!
And the temperature of the processor? It's now under control! Even under full load, the temperature increases gradually and slowly, without peaks and never exceed 45 degrees on the cores, even after several minutes of use.
In normal use, temperature is a few degrees above the ambient one.
To ensure that my system works well I did a little test... I launched a benchmark app (viewing onscreen temp) and after a few minutes I put an ice cube on the back of the phone, just above the processor position: I assisted to an insane temperature drop, from 45 to 7 degrees Celsius within 8-10 seconds!
What to say, I am pleased of the change I made to my M9, now the problem is not completely resolved but it is dammed.
Remember, I shared with you my experience for information, I do not assume liability for damage to your smartphone!
Awesome. I wish i had the balls to do this. Kudos sir. Amaze balls work.
Oh God, the HTC M9 isnt overheating. Its a bit hotter (Allmost between 5 to 8 Degress then other Flagships) and ony because it uses a Aluminium-Unibody which transports heat more effective. I Bet, others would get as hot as the M9, if they used a Metall Unibody.
And for me : Better a Metall Unibody then Plastic or Glas (which can break easilly (See here Xperia Z3 and Z3 Compact)).
I've tested the Galaxy S6 and the M9 some weeks ago with a Laser-Thermometer (Ambient Temp was 26 °C in my Room) :
After 5 runs Antutu :
M9 = 52,3 °C
S6 = 48,4 °C
After 5 Runs (3D Mark)
M9 = 54,1 °C
S6 = 48,7 °C
So there is no real difference, and the Scores even didnt decreased much on the M9. (from 59,435 to 57,897 Antutu) (S6 : 73,185 to 71,321)
this is a tricky mod to do id say. the better solution would of been if htc went with the 808 processor.
yeah.. the idea behind what i've done was to take all the advantages that an alluminum cover can do in thermal excange.
in that way the heat that the processor produce is immediately brought to the outside of the phone
Nice! Thanks for sharing this
Will definitely try this once I had the balls to do so.
oh my god I am a guitarist and have a pick in the hand. but as I tried to pull of just the top piece and saw glue removing I had fear that could be noticeable once you reassembly it. like parts not sticking right.
last time I disassembly a hd2 it was a mess, I broke 2 flats ahahaha
WOW...holy crap! i just did this mod and im telling you it IS NOT for the faint of heart. the all aluminum frame can bend and scratch easy if your not careful. i was able to do it and assemble the best i could like stock but this WILL void all and any warranty. scared the crap out of me because at first the device would not boot until i plugged it into a charger. :/ be very aware that when you separate the two halfs of the phone there is "very strong" adhesive tape holding the camera to the board. i used arctic silver cpu paste and its too soon to tell but i can say the device is much cooler under cpuz stats. im hoping this might improve battery life as well. soo far everything on the device works.
heres the guide to ifixit. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+M9+Teardown/39166
Nice!
I just did the procedure described here. I'll post back with results if there's any change.
fix-this! said:
WOW...holy crap! i just did this mod and im telling you it IS NOT for the faint of heart. the all aluminum frame can bend and scratch easy if your not careful. i was able to do it and assemble the best i could like stock but this WILL void all and any warranty. scared the crap out of me because at first the device would not boot until i plugged it into a charger. :/ be very aware that when you separate the two halfs of the phone there is "very strong" adhesive tape holding the camera to the board. i used arctic silver cpu paste and its too soon to tell but i can say the device is much cooler under cpuz stats. im hoping this might improve battery life as well. soo far everything on the device works.
heres the guide to ifixit. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+M9+Teardown/39166
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ahhhhhhhhhh you're crazy! artic silver is an electrical conductor! you must (or would have had to) use a ceramic or carbon compound!
I hope for you that pressure and time won't let it overflows on the motherboard!
p.s. after i disassembled my one m7 (photo), nothing scares me anymore (i'm still using it)
After 6 months of use I'd say overheating problems are long gone, but this is always a good practice, thanks for sharing this . Even after playing Need for Speed: No Limits for more than an hour the top temperature was 43 Celsius on my M9, that's pretty standard.
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm
according to this it wont be an issue. im not overly concerned.
fix-this! said:
http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm
according to this it wont be an issue. im not overly concerned.
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"(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)"
Valerio-M8 said:
"(While much safer than electrically conductive silver and copper greases, Arctic Silver 5 should be kept away from electrical traces, pins, and leads. While it is not electrically conductive, the compound is very slightly capacitive and could potentially cause problems if it bridges two close-proximity electrical paths.)"
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And what makes you think that Arctic MX-4 is any different? MX-4 contains 40% metallic aluminum, so it's not electrically inert either. They both use an oil (silicone oil or ester oil) as a carrier.
mike.s said:
And what makes you think that Arctic MX-4 is any different? MX-4 contains 40% metallic aluminum, so it's not electrically inert either. They both use an oil (silicone oil or ester oil) as a carrier.
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http://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/mx-4.html
-"It does not contain any metallic particles so electical conductivity would not be an issue. Unlike silver and copper compound, it ensures that contact with any electrical pins would not result in damage of any sort."
-"The ARCTIC MX-4 compound is composed of carbon micro-particles [...]"
Arctic MX-4 EC safety data sheet: "Aluminium 40% CAS 7429-90-5"
In any case, both manufacturers assert their products are non-conductive, so you're knocking down a straw man. The question was in regard to a potential effect on interlead capacitance, about which the marketing fluff you mentioned says nothing. MX-4 uses a silicone oil, which has a dielectric constant of in the 2.5 range. Ester oil as used in AC5 is similar (high 2.x). There's no reason to believe they're significantly different electrically, yet you hype one as "the best," and warn against using the other. I think you've just fallen for marketing.
how has this mod panned out for anyone who did it?
Great mod, now i can play heavy games
does this mod actually work? also what the best thermal paste to use for this mod or would a replacement thermal pad be better?
thanks
Techfan3000 said:
does this mod actually work? also what the best thermal paste to use for this mod or would a replacement thermal pad be better?
thanks
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Yes, i've used AAB thermal paste and it's ok, thermal paste is always better than thermal pad in my opinion.
Rate this thread to express how you think the LG V30 feels in terms of quality. A higher rating indicates that it feels premium and high-quality (attention to detail is high, manufacturing defects don't exist, etc).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
disclaimer, i don't actually own a V30. however, i've been to a local electronics store today and was lucky they had one on display. well... it looks better on pictures, imo. and hand warm as it was it didn't feel great either, to say the least. frankly, it looked and felt very cheap, like glossy plastic all around. other phones with similar materials made a more premium impression.
maybe it takes more time, maybe it feels better when cold, perhaps i'm just not a big fan of the whole glossy glasswich design. whatever it is, i didn't like it and felt a bit disappointed
Valfaun said:
disclaimer, i don't actually own a V30. however, i've been to a local electronics store today and was lucky they had one on display. well... it looks better on pictures, imo. and hand warm as it was it didn't feel great either, to say the least. frankly, it looked and felt very cheap, like glossy plastic all around. other phones with similar materials made a more premium impression.
maybe it takes more time, maybe it feels better when cold, perhaps i'm just not a big fan of the whole glossy glasswich design. whatever it is, i didn't like it and felt a bit disappointed
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On the other hand, I own five and it has a very premium feel.
You do need the back glass for Qi wireless charging, and as a result you need a case.
So, what you saw in the store is not what you'll carry.
High quality! The only reason some say it doesn't feel premium is because LG successfully made it lighter. Why heavy == premium in 2018 is beyond me.
I love the feel of the V30. Always felt very premium compared to many of the other flagships that have been released as of late. I am an omni-rep for the major US carriers and I get to play with all the new phones and the V30 just fits my hands better compared to the s9 or s9+.
I like the V30 being light as a heavier phone generates more force when striking the ground. Adds for survivability.
Well built except for the back class cover not even with the metal frame, you can feel the edge not being smooth. I red about it in a review before buying, thought this cannot be real in a flagship in 2018 but still is. Anyway if used with some back protection this won't be felt.
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Well built except for the back class cover not even with the metal frame, you can feel the edge not being smooth. I red about it in a review before buying, thought this cannot be real in a flagship in 2018 but still is. Anyway if used with some back protection this won't be felt.
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More grip :laugh:
The phone feels valuable from the materials but Gorilla Glass sucks - already have countless micro scratches (without even combining it with keys and other sharp objects in my pocket) and it's only a few months old with very minor usage traces.
And that applies virtually to EVERY flagship (or non-flagship) phone nowadays.
Call me oldfashioned, class-less or whatever but I prefer a good plastic back/case which can without rough usage, had my Note 3 fall down countless times (with case TPU case) and no crack, same applies to the Galaxy S1 that one is even more sturdier and has survived even more falls without any traces :good:
Flagship phone users shouldn't be assumed to need to babysit or only touched their phones with silk gloves on (and whole-phone protectors) - they are everyday usage devices ("daily driver") after all - thus should be able to take quite a dozen falls, a beating (e.g. bumping against table/wall corners) and not just be there for aesthetics
If you want aesthetics by a Russian variant of those with gold plating and diamonds
zacharias.maladroit said:
The phone feels valuable from the materials but Gorilla Glass sucks - already have countless micro scratches (without even combining it with keys and other sharp objects in my pocket) and it's only a few months old with very minor usage traces.
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The problem is sand. You can carry around a few particles of sand in your pocket or on a table and your phone has littly tiny scatches. :/
One of the things I really love about the V30 is how thin it is, which is only 7.3mm thick. Compare that to the S9 which is around 8.5mm. Takes me back when thinness used to be all the rage back in 2015. However as much as I like the glass back in terms of looks, I've already gotten many small scratches on the glass and I've only used it for less than 5 days! Lesson learned, ALWAYS have a case ready when you buy a glass back phone.
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On the other hand, I own five and it has a very premium feel.
You do need the back glass for Qi wireless charging, and as a result you need a case.
So, what you saw in the store is not what you'll carry.
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@ChazzMatt
Yo bud, since you have 5 of these things, and you've always been helpful in the past with my (and yours I think at the time) older phones, I feel you're the go-to guy for an in-depth look at these phones.
I'm not looking for a huge write up, I don't want to take a ton of your time. But after my past experiences with the G3 heating up and destroying the solder on the display connection to the rest of the phone (or whatever it would do to break itself, fixed temporarily by the "penny mod" but ultimately doomed many G3s including two by me...) I'm a bit hesitant to buy another LG product again. I believe this issue should be fixed or at least tempered with a smaller SoC and going to an OLED display... but I digress...
Alas, I desperately need an upgrade and waiting until the fall for the SD855 Pixel 4 is not an option. I found some fairly good deals on V30+ phones and knew you had one (or 5).
Since this is a "vote how good the V30 is" thread, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind giving a semi-in-depth review. V30 and V30+ the same phone hardware/software? What are the pros/cons? Any long term concerns about construction, hardware, software? Good power, battery life, heat dissipation? Rootable at newest stock ROM? Bootloader unlockable? Good custom ROMs available? Is the stock ROM themable (substratum)? Anything else you can share that I or others may not have thought of?
I know I quoted your post from over a year ago, but was hoping to get some insight from a guy I trust here on XDA.
Thanks in advance for any help and info you can give!
LifeAsADroid said:
@ChazzMatt
Yo bud, since you have 5 of these things, and you've always been helpful in the past with my (and yours I think at the time) older phones, I feel you're the go-to guy for an in-depth look at these phones.
I'm not looking for a huge write up, I don't want to take a ton of your time. But after my past experiences with the G3 heating up and destroying the solder on the display connection to the rest of the phone (or whatever it would do to break itself, fixed temporarily by the "penny mod" but ultimately doomed many G3s including two by me...) I'm a bit hesitant to buy another LG product again. I believe this issue should be fixed or at least tempered with a smaller SoC and going to an OLED display... but I digress...
Alas, I desperately need an upgrade and waiting until the fall for the SD855 Pixel 4 is not an option. I found some fairly good deals on V30+ phones and knew you had one (or 5).
Since this is a "vote how good the V30 is" thread, I was wondering if you wouldn't mind giving a semi-in-depth review. V30 and V30+ the same phone hardware/software? What are the pros/cons? Any long term concerns about construction, hardware, software? Good power, battery life, heat dissipation? Rootable at newest stock ROM? Bootloader unlockable? Good custom ROMs available? Is the stock ROM themable (substratum)? Anything else you can share that I or others may not have thought of?
I know I quoted your post from over a year ago, but was hoping to get some insight from a guy I trust here on XDA.
Thanks in advance for any help and info you can give!
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Haven't forgotten about this. Yeah, no more overheating or boot loops. LG put in copper pipe heat dissipater.
Yes to about all your questions.
I'll try to write more later.
Go read the introduction (Section 1) part of my WTF Bootloader Unlock and Root Instructions post. I tell why V30 is good.
Also LG just added DTS 3D stereo...
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
* fantastic battery
ChazzMatt said:
Haven't forgotten about this. Yeah, no more overheating or boot loops. LG put in copper pipe heat dissipater.
Yes to about all your questions.
I'll try to write more later.
Go read the introduction (Section 1) part of my WTF Bootloader Unlock and Root Instructions post. I tell why V30 is good.
Also LG just added DTS 3D stereo...
LG V30/V30+
* 1440P OLED (537 ppi)
* Qi wireless charging
* 3.5mm headset jack
* Quad DAC
* DTS 3D stereo
* IP68 dust/water resistance
* rear camera OIS on normal lens - plus 120 degree wide angle lens
* superfast fingerprint sensor
* 64GB (V30) or 128GB (V30+) internal storage
* microSD port for additional storage
* bootloader unlock and root
* no notch
* fantastic battery
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Thanks boss, no need to write more. I did find your WTF... post all about the root and unlock method. After writing the above I did feel like a tool, life "why couldn't I just surf around xda for a while and find these answers" lol. I guess wanted to hear it from someone I trusted from past experience.
Thanks again. I guess my only real question is related to the waterproofing. If I put the phone under the faucet to wash off spills, or if I put the phone in a tub of water, do I have to close off the charging port or headphone jack? My first time with a water resistant phone, don't want to botch it up giving it a bath or something.
LifeAsADroid said:
Thanks boss, no need to write more. I did find your WTF... post all about the root and unlock method. After writing the above I did feel like a tool, life "why couldn't I just surf around xda for a while and find these answers" lol. I guess wanted to hear it from someone I trusted from past experience.
Thanks again. I guess my only real question is related to the waterproofing. If I put the phone under the faucet to wash off spills, or if I put the phone in a tub of water, do I have to close off the charging port or headphone jack? My first time with a water resistant phone, don't want to botch it up giving it a bath or something.
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Here's the demo LG did to show it off.
I wouldn't abuse it like going swimming to take underwater pictures, but occasional rinse off shouldn't hurt.
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There is little of scratches at the back. But its visible if you get closer and use the light to see scratches. So not a game breaker. Yesterday while i was pulling up and when I get upsidedown, phone dropped on the marble floor and nothing happened. Height was 1.80 like.
The battery in my XT1575 finally gave out, so I ordered a new on on eBay. When I went to swap it out, I found that the original had a slight curve that helped it form properly to the case. The new battery is perfectly flat. All the markings are identical. I'm afraid to try to bend the battery to take form because I don't want it to blow up in my face. Any experienced user have a clue what to do?
A J
Yes send it back and see if the seller has a curved one.
My flat replacement battery fit in the space.
Pretty sure it should be flat... If it's rounded maybe it's bulging.
It is rounded, I've already replaced the battery and I am going to have to do it again for the 2nd time because of eBay junk.
The original batteries are rounded along the length of the battery. You will have to round the flat battery to fit it in otherwise you risk damaging the LCD panel as the pressure will screw it up.
I have not been able to find a battery that is pre-rounded and the correct grams in weight. So far I've got cheated on 2 batteries weighing in at 10 grams less than the original battery and they both last less than the depleted original so that has created a situation for me. Every time you take the phone apart you risk messing it up and those little tiny plugs can't take a lot of wear and tear before they snap and break.
The batteries from eBay are clones and they weigh about 36 grams, the original batteries weigh in at 46 - 50 grams.
The clone batteries are good enough to get a phone working but as they say, battery life is everything when you are mobile, and it is a mobile phone after all.
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If anyone knows of a good 50 gram battery source please let me know.
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I just wanted to add a note, rounding the battery is done at your own risk as it is dangerous!
I wore heavy gloves and eye protection to make sure I didn't get burned if I managed to screw it up.
Easiest way to bend it is to wedge the battery between two heavy boards bend and turn around and bend the two edges. about 30 degrees, as I stated before you can't install a flat battery as it will eventually kill your LCD screen because of pressure in the wrong places.
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Clever knockoffs or ordinary knockoffs?
Just out of curiosity, did any of your "featherweight" batteries look like genuine Motorola parts from the front?
How did you know the battery was done?
I've been troubleshooting my phone turning off randomly. It turns off while in use (if I leave it alone, it stays on). It refuses to turn back on or acts like it has a low battery until I plug it in. Then it acts like it had battery all along and turns on.
Is this my battery? time for replacement?
I was on MM rooted unlocked bootloader. Just updated to Nougat today to troubleshoot. On Nougat stock and Nougat rooted, same issue. Shuts off randomly.
Notes from doing an install of new battery -
Jjust completed install of replacement battery
Kit that purchased from Amazon :
https://tinyurl.com/y9cvldya
This is not a job for the faint of heart ; it has nothing to do with the quality of the battery or tools provided. Recommend you watch this video first - https://tinyurl.com/yc2wk7m2 - if you are willing to do this. Directions were great in the video - I had an issue with power / volume not working - reviewed this site - https://tinyurl.com/ycympu6y - and figured out that I had not seated the one ribbon cable properly
Tools that came with the kit worked fine - I found I used the 4 torx to unscrew / 3 torx to put back -- just go slow. Also - the two white strips have no explanation - they are double sided to keep the back cover on once you are done. That was the only "tool" in the kit I wasn't really clear about.
Zero instructions / hints come the kit - refer to the YouTube video posted and the Ifixit information
Really early - but from a couple of days ; this new battery gives me performance like the phone was when new - battery I replaced was discharging to about 80% within first hour of unplugging from charger
Please don't...
stevejohnson42 said:
Jjust completed install of replacement battery
Kit that purchased from Amazon :
https://tinyurl.com/y9cvldya
This is not a job for the faint of heart ; it has nothing to do with the quality of the battery or tools provided. Recommend you watch this video first - https://tinyurl.com/yc2wk7m2 - if you are willing to do this. Directions were great in the video - I had an issue with power / volume not working - reviewed this site - https://tinyurl.com/ycympu6y - and figured out that I had not seated the one ribbon cable properly
Tools that came with the kit worked fine - I found I used the 4 torx to unscrew / 3 torx to put back -- just go slow. Also - the two white strips have no explanation - they are double sided to keep the back cover on once you are done. That was the only "tool" in the kit I wasn't really clear about.
Zero instructions / hints come the kit - refer to the YouTube video posted and the Ifixit information
Really early - but from a couple of days ; this new battery gives me performance like the phone was when new - battery I replaced was discharging to about 80% within first hour of unplugging from charger
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Honestly, the procedure isn't too bad compared to other devices. If you care about your phone even a little bit though, don't buy those crappy knockoff batteries, as they're usually worse than a 3-year-old original battery. For the record, I keep it on my dresser as a monument to "why not to buy cheap batteries". It is currently twice as swollen as was pictured. If I had left it in my phone, it would have destroyed the device physically. I thought that because it was "curved," it'd be legit, but I was quite wrong.
For the record, the only remaining seller of genuine/OEM FX30 batteries for this phone is oem_liquidation. It's pricey, but well worth it. You couldn't even pay me to use one of those Amazon/ebay specials anymore. I've learned my lesson.
Bill720 said:
Honestly, the procedure isn't too bad compared to other devices. If you care about your phone even a little bit though, don't buy those crappy knockoff batteries, as they're usually worse than a 3-year-old original battery. For the record, I keep it on my dresser as a monument to "why not to buy cheap batteries". It is currently twice as swollen as was pictured. If I had left it in my phone, it would have destroyed the device physically. I thought that because it was "curved," it'd be legit, but I was quite wrong.
For the record, the only remaining seller of genuine/OEM FX30 batteries for this phone is oem_liquidation. It's pricey, but well worth it. You couldn't even pay me to use one of those Amazon/ebay specials anymore. I've learned my lesson.
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Thanks for the inputs - at this point I cannot really comment on the long term viability of the battery bought from Amazon -- basically have had it installed for about a week now.
My main objective was to get my thoughts posted -- this seems to be an unappreciated phone and not a lot out there. I tried to post the review on Amazon - but got rejected ; would assume because of the links I added to try and give someone some ideas of the resources that I found helpful.
The amount of glue really surprised me .. even though I had a bit of a warning from the video. I suspect it also has something to do with why it is listed as having some water resistance -- the way the glue was added would have provided a good seal for moisture incursion.
General commentary on the Pure Edition and repairs
stevejohnson42 said:
My main objective was to get my thoughts posted -- this seems to be an unappreciated phone and not a lot out there.
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I agree. It didn't have a lot of press to begin with, despite its epicness, and most of the phone snobs have moved on by now.
stevejohnson42 said:
I tried to post the review on Amazon - but got rejected ; would assume because of the links I added to try and give someone some ideas of the resources that I found helpful.
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That happened to me once before too (for a different item). Amazon lets me review most of my purchases, (the few that I do perform on that irritating website, as well as those of products that I didn't buy through their market) but does give me trouble every once in a while.
I'd wait a few months until you know if it's going to work or not before posting the review anyway.
stevejohnson42 said:
The amount of glue really surprised me .. even though I had a bit of a warning from the video. I suspect it also has something to do with why it is listed as having some water resistance -- the way the glue was added would have provided a good seal for moisture incursion.
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It is a bit annoying to service, but not nearly as bad as certain other devices. And if it contributes to water resistance, I don't mind too much. The real headache comes with repeated service due to having to replace a defective replacement battery. If I'd just gotten a good one right out of the starting gate, I could've probably kept the original adhesive and back cover.
Interestingly enough, the replacement back cover, while sized identically to the original, feels slightly different and attracts far more dust. It's almost like it's made out of a softer material somehow. The seller claimed it was OEM, but I'm not so sure. Either way, it works, so I'll probably leave it alone for right now.
At any rate, I hope the battery lasts long and that the phone serves you well. Congratulations on the successful repair.
I wish you the best for your battery lasting. I was lucky enough to get a good one and thus far it is going strong after nearly 7 months. I love this phone despite it having worse battery life when compared to some of its peers out there. Battery life is good enough for me.
Over the past two years I've done some sort of "surgery" on four XT1575s. Three were battery issues, one was the micro USB socket. While it feels weird to start a careful disassembly by ripping off a rubber back, the rest of the process was clear to see on any number of YouTube videos and fairly easy to do. My only caution -- at all times, as you separate any two pieces, check carefully to make sure you're not damaging the thin connector for the battery, the power, that sticky patterned copper thing, maybe something else. One tug too hard and you're dead in the water until the new part arrives.
My DD is an XT1575. So is my wife's. And my son's. And a close friend. I talked each of them into buying the phone and none of them regret it. I too am mystified that this excellently designed phone doesn't get more recognition.
Check out 'elecdude' on ebay, currently listing
Stock Battery
I've dealt w/ in the last 30 days - extremely GOOD communication, clarifications etc. both batt's I recieved (for different phone) were OEM original MFG date 2021 work excellent.
Since I've got 2 of these XT1575, am waiting to hear back on the mfg. date and whether the battery is CURVED - there's lots of reports of aftermarket battery being flat, causing faults on the screen.
virginwidow said:
Check out 'elecdude' on ebay, currently listing
Stock Battery
I've dealt w/ in the last 30 days - extremely GOOD communication, clarifications etc. both batt's I recieved (for different phone) were OEM original MFG date 2021 work excellent.
Since I've got 2 of these XT1575, am waiting to hear back on the mfg. date and whether the battery is CURVED - there's lots of reports of aftermarket battery being flat, causing faults on the screen.
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My guess is at one point the battery out gassed, inflated and that caused it to bend like that! The gases where vented out latter and it retained that shape. If so you came close to incurring major damage.
I can't tell for sure but the replacement seems thicker if so that won't fly.
Go with the OEM one only!
If you ever autopsied one you know what I mean. I call them bag batteries now! The only way it could be curved is to be bent after it was wound ie forced to bend.
You can see what appear to be stress areas on either end of the original. WTF?
I seriously doubt it's bend by design... that looks more like a failed Li.
*See if you can find some repair vids of it or at least tear down vids to confirm the cell is actually flat... as a bag battery can be.
Interesting observation... my 'body donor' (got on ebay like $25 for they didn't know to enlarge the screen to get the navigation buttons workin) may in fact have a bad board - but isn't doing too bad on batt....
If the "REAL Xt1575" (64mb) ever ships, would naturally consider replacing battery... it was new in 2017 (that's not new enough) before I go runnin' it as a DD.... THANK YOU for the input - I was seeing many reviews on Amazon for "flat" battery causing screen issues
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PS WHERE (please lord, where) is our Telegram channel? I've already killed an LG using outdated "Man-Pages" here on XDA
virginwidow said:
Interesting observation... my 'body donor' (got on ebay like $25 for they didn't know to enlarge the screen to get the navigation buttons workin) may in fact have a bad board - but isn't doing too bad on batt....
If the "REAL Xt1575" (64mb) ever ships, would naturally consider replacing battery... it was new in 2017 (that's not new enough) before I go runnin' it as a DD.... THANK YOU for the input - I was seeing many reviews on Amazon for "flat" battery causing screen issues
VW
PS WHERE (please lord, where) is our Telegram channel? I've already killed an LG using outdated "Man-Pages" here on XDA
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That's damn curious. It's always possible they pulled a "Sony" and did some creative post engineering during assembly. Check the actual space's physical dimensions.
Excessive pressure on the display can certainly damage it.
My Note 10+ recently had a battery fail and it was bulging the rear cover out. Didn't spot it because of the case as I obstantly and repeatedly charged it from 0 to 100% trying to get fast charging working
Erratic fast charging is a symptom of an Li failure so I learned.
I was fortunate not to have damaged the display.
So in your experience, avoid the upgraded batts - they'll not fit?
The dealer i found on ebay is definitely shipping OEM parts, and if I send a message am certain he'll respond with the mfr. date.
I use a cell shoppe here that's motorla certified, might simply go with what they provide they're not cheap but stand by their work.
Have reached the age hands shake too much for micro-surgury on delicate things
virginwidow said:
So in your experience, avoid the upgraded batts - they'll not fit?
The dealer i found on ebay is definitely shipping OEM parts, and if I send a message am certain he'll respond with the mfr. date.
I use a cell shoppe here that's motorla certified, might simply go with what they provide they're not cheap but stand by their work.
Have reached the age hands shake too much for micro-surgury on delicate things
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Go OEM.
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hi, if we started topic about battery replacement issues i will ask about my issue too, so few days ago i bought new battery for my moto x style that should be 3000mah but after few charges estimated capacity in accubattery is at around 2000mah, should i return this battery or should i try doing some calibration of it?