You can play with the new Note 4 at Best Buy starting today. Hopefully some of you will get us some good videos to check out.
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Is the Galaxy note has the best camera ever?
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Is the Galaxy note has the best camera ever?
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sure, why not
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I played with it last night... damn that phone is awesome! love it. can't wait to get one. just dumb that the display models are ready to go yet the damn phone won't be out for a month. wtf is that crap?
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I played with both the Note 4 and Edge today.
The screens on both are stunning. Everything looks a step sharper than the Note 3. The colors still pop, but everything looks more natural. Whites are noticeably whiter. Both screens are brighter too.
The metal rim is a nice touch and from a quality standpoint both devices were nicer than the Note 3. Still, they're not on the level of the iPhone/HTC devices and are probably closer in quality to the G3/Moto X (2014).
I was super excited for the Edge, but after using one I'm not sure what I think. The bent edge is really small and kind of awkward to use on its own. For most applications that section doesn't do anything. When I was using Chrome for instance it just goes black and says My Note Edge. I installed Nova to see what it did with a launcher and the result was the same. You can swipe the strip and something will come up, but there didn't seem to be a full-screen mode where normal content was stretched to that area automatically. Also when using some apps the content from the strip area seemed to overlap slightly over the main screen area.
I couldn't get any great pics (and some are blurry) but here they are:
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I played with the Note at Best Buy as well. They had 3 on display, all were white.
There are very few differences from the Note 3 and S5, but that screen is just perfect. The settings menu is like the s5 except it has some quick settings up top and the background is white. The calendar and clock widgets have transparent options (the s5 has the ability to make the widget transparent). The folder icons look like the s5, but you can no longer change the color. Blue is the only option, which is pretty lame.
The phone software felt smooth as anything I've used, kills the G3. The wide selfie cam is pretty cool. Taking pictures side by side my girlfriends S5 showed only minor differences, obviously testing was limited.
The speaker was loud, no bass but definitely loud. The metal trim that's painted partially white is really sexy. The inside of the calculator app is reworked, functions the same but its a welcome visual change.
All in all, it's a damn good phone, makes me miss my Note 3, but if you use a Note 3 and aren't interested in this new display, there's really no reason to upgrade.
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I played with the Note at Best Buy as well. They had 3 on display, all were white.
There are very few differences from the Note 3 and S5, but that screen is just perfect. The settings menu is like the s5 except it has some quick settings up top and the background is white. The calendar and clock widgets have transparent options (the s5 has the ability to make the widget transparent). The folder icons look like the s5, but you can no longer change the color. Blue is the only option, which is pretty lame.
The phone software felt smooth as anything I've used, kills the G3. The wide selfie cam is pretty cool. Taking pictures side by side my girlfriends S5 showed only minor differences, obviously testing was limited.
The speaker was loud, no bass but definitely loud. The metal trim that's painted partially white is really sexy. The inside of the calculator app is reworked, functions the same but its a welcome visual change.
All in all, it's a damn good phone, makes me miss my Note 3, but if you use a Note 3 and aren't interested in this new display, there's really no reason to upgrade.
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Did you get an opportunity to use the S - Pen, if so is the functionality better than the N3? I have the S5 and N3?
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Did you get an opportunity to use the S - Pen, if so is the functionality better than the N3? I have the S5 and N3?
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Very little because of the cord. I couldn't get the air command window to pop up. I did use it on the (notepad app?) a little. It does feel better than the Note 3, not a HUGE difference, but it just feels like it glides and it's more accurate. Again, I barely used it, but I do think people will be happy with it over the Note 3.
If you guys go check it out, you must watch the pre-loaded video of the people in the city. It's obviously shot with the proper equipment and does not reflect what our own videos will look like, but it just looks awesome.
I am not seeing the difference compared to the Note 3 that some are implying. Both displays look great and I have to get overly close to notice the difference from typical usage distance. Then I notice tiny fonts are more legible.
I also do not see the N4 any faster than the Note 3. Both are great fast devices IMO.
What I do notice is there is about 3GB less storage than the Note 3. That is accounting for the 4GB of demo bloat too on the N4. I sure hope that is a demo allocation issue, or the N4 would have at least 3gb less storage out of box. I think it is closer to 4gb MIA.
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Was shocked to see the Samsung people settled in BB and with everything layed out. I didn't even know any of this and was only browsing at BB and then the Note 4 popped up and that was all I was staring at for a good minute which seemed very long and then I dashed to it to pick it up onto my hand. Low and behold, the Note 4, Note Edge, at last, in person, in real life! Oh man oh man the security cord could do with a bit of extension at the least! Whatever... the Note 4 was nice in my hand, it felt so right. It looked so nice. I used to use a Note 2, until it got soaked while kayaking with only 1 layer of ziplock around it.... Forgot to do the second layer. So I'm back to my S3, phone was dead right when I saw the Note 4, so no pictures, sorry. But the Note 4 sounds amazing! The speakers are LOUD! Mind you, BB was packed on a Sunday evening and pretty loud with the noise environment. The person above said it had no bass, now that I think back, I don't believe I heard bass.... But who cares!?!? The speakers will for SURE make you hear that notification or phone call that you get from a few rooms away in your house! The Note 4 was a blast to play with! The camera selfie made me look so handsome!!! Right when I was about to snap a photo with my S3, the S3 camera looked so dark compared to the N4 camera. My phone wouldn't do the N4 any justice if I was to snap a few shots anyways! But man oh man oh man oh man! The N4 is awesome! If you don't the Note 3, check the N4 out because it might not be a huge upgrade to the N3 users. This baby is going out in the market for $825.99 w/o contract, 299.99 with 2 years contract for most carriers and damn... Do I want one for my Verizon account! For the folks out there with second thoughts on which phone to get that's over $500, this is the bad boy to go for. This is the one. Don't even think about waiting for the N5, it'll be approx 365 days before that happens. I'm still stoked! I had to leave BB to go to Costco before it closed.... BUMMED me out..... I'm still thinking about yesterday though.... Dying to go there again to play with it.
EDGE,
Samsung always want to have an EDGE over others.
the s pen capabilities turn the rest phones to FOLLOWERS.
I Samsung Note Good or do you guys suggest any other phones?
abcodi said:
I Samsung Note Good or do you guys suggest any other phones?
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note all the way. i live for the note lol
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What a pretty phone.
Posting some Note 4 photos I took at BB
Hey, everybody. I'm going to all the Note 4 general forums to post a few pics I took of the Note 4, just in case there's a person or two who hasn't been able to see them in the flesh at Best Buy, or they want to see real life photos.
Honestly I was not that impressed at Best Buy today. The overall design is beautiful. And the 2d screen thing was noticable to me. Also whites looked brighter and whiter and less washed out when compared to my Note 3. Other than that same ol Note and definitely not a significant upgrade over the 3. That being said I cannot resist the $200 trade in offer and I will be upgrading. Lol
cubarican84 said:
Honestly I was not that impressed at Best Buy today. The overall design is beautiful. And the 2d screen thing was noticable to me. Also whites looked brighter and whiter and less washed out when compared to my Note 3. Other than that same ol Note and definitely not a significant upgrade over the 3. That being said I cannot resist the $200 trade in offer and I will be upgrading. Lol
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I thought the same until paying close attention to the display with web and image content. The N3 has a grest display, but the N4 has a STUNNING display.
Still, I agree the Note 4 is not a giant leap from the N3.
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My immediate first impression: It looks better in person that it does in pictures online. I thought it looked pretty bland when I first saw it online, but in person, it's not bad. It definitely looks better than the Samsung Captivate on AT&T, but I still think that the Vibrant looks the best. Once I picked it up, I was surprised by how light it was. Initially, I was disappointed; I thought for a split-second that it was a dummy model that I was holding. It was noticeably lighter than the Evo. I couldn't, however, decide if this was good or bad. The lack of heft puts the Epic 4G dangerously close to being perceived as "cheap and plastic-y". The phone (as well as the other Galaxy S phones) just didn't feel that solid to me. Especially compared to phones that have some noticeable heft to them, like the Evo and Nexus One. I feel that if it were dropped from waist-high, it would shatter into a million pieces or something.
The lack of heft aside, the phone feels really good in the hand. It's rounded corners fell better than the Evo. But because of the keyboard, the phone is pretty thick. I noticed that trying to use the phone with one hand can be difficult sometimes (and I have fairly large hands), especially when trying to reach things at the top of the screen (like the notification bar).
The screen: I have mixed feelings about Samsung's Super AMOLED screen. When I turned on the screen for the first time, one word popped in my head: OVERRATED (the same word that came to me when seeing the iPhone 4's "retina display" for the first time). I honestly don't see the hype. Yes, if you're looking at a picture / movie, the colors look amazing. But looking at text, on the other hand, is a different story. The main problem that I had with the SAMOLED screen is the "screen door effect". You can see the individual pixels! What's worse, you can see them without even looking hard. They are just there, in your face. I have perfect vision, and I have to put my Evo pretty close to my face in order to make out individual pixels. On the Epic, you can see them everywhere. It's really bad when looking at text on a white background (like on almost every website). You can see the white lines in-between the black of the letters. It's like looking at a mini chess board. Here's a picture so you can get an idea for yourself:
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I would rather take a regular AMOLED, TFT LCD, or Retina display any day of SAMOLED
Ahhh, the keyboard. This is the ONLY reason I even considered swapping the Evo for an Epic. In short: it's really good. It's one of the best landscape keyboards I've ever used. The keys are really clicky, and are a nice size. My only complaint is that I wish they were domed more. Because they are flat, my fingers tended to slide over to adjacent keys. I'm sure with time I would be really fast & accurate on it. The only landscape keyboard that's better than this one is the one on the Touch Pro 2. That this is amazing.
I'm not gonna talk too much about the software, since we all know what Android is about. What I will say is that TouchWiz isn't that bad. It's actually better than the skin Motorola has put on the Droid2 and DroidX. It's not as good as Sense UI, but it's definitely better than stock Android. Overall, everything I did on the phone was super fast. Scrolling was smooth, and it didn't lag at all. No complaints.
Minor annoyances: -There is a dedicated smiley button on the keyboard… wtf. It would be much more useful it they put the @ symbol there, instead of it. -For some reason, Samsung likes putting the lock/power button on the right side of the phone. Not a big deal on the other Galaxy S phones, but every time I would lock/unlock the phone, the keyboard would move/open a little.
Final thoughts: It's a really good phone. If I had the choice today to either get a free Epic or a free Evo, I'm about 65% sure I'd take the Evo. If I was a new Sprint customer, there is almost no way to justify taking this phone over the Evo, especially seeing as how it's $50 more… Unless, of course, you abso-freakin-lutely need a physical keyboard.
I echo the same thoughts as you and still have my evo, i will try the epic out for 30 days and see if it grows on me but I have slight evo withdrawals. The physical keyboard is nice, I feel like I would miss having that option.
The screen is growing on me, I really love how readable it is in the sun and the colors and contrast are really great.
Another thing you left out is how incredibly fast this phone is. Even at 2.1 without CM6 it blows the EVO out of the water in every way, there is virtually no lag and you don't see the typical tearing or jitterness you get on the EVO. I can't even imagine how smooth it will be when 2.2 is on here...
The one thing that will determine whether I keep it is if the development community will be as good as the EVO. The EVO dev community from the start was bursting with life but the epic dev community seems rather flat and slow so far.
Another concern is Samsungs commitment to keeping the phones up to date and bug free. Something I don't have too much faith in as I saw how they pretty much ignored Samsung Moment customers.
Nice review.
I also own both an EVO and the Epic. My decision to switch was based on the keyboard and the processor speed. Both lived up to my expectations. The speed actually exceeded my expectations, whereas the keyboard isn't as good for games as I thought it would be. Wish it had a more game-like dpad. I think EVERYONE is pissed off about the decision to have a dedicated smiley button.
I'm actually very impressed with the screen. Unfortunately if you look closely you can see the pixels... but only when it's still. I honestly think it's mind bogglingly good when playing games or watching movies. The size of the EVO's screen is definitely a plus. So big. But I can see my Epic SO MUCH BETTER in direct sunlight. Even with auto-brightness on. With my EVO, I had to manually crank it up to 100% to get even a slight idea what I was looking at.
I actually found it to be so much faster than the EVO (even with 2.2). Games feel soo much smoother. Especially 3D games. And I am a huge gamer. Also, surprisingly, TW isn't all that bad (as you said). I actually plan on keeping it for a while. On my EVO I ran launcher pro, but sense is nice too. The EVO has the edge in widgets. No manufacturer's UI has anything close to the same quality widgets that sense has.
I actually don't mind the weight of this phone. I know the EVO feels heavy and sturdy, but the reason the SGS phones are so light is because of their screen technology. Both phones have the same soft-touch back.
All in all, I'm really glad I made the switch. I'm having a lot of fun with the Epic. The only thing I miss from my EVO is the GPS... but we're getting a fix for this this month.
Oh and one more thing. Stock battery life on my Epic KILLS what I experienced on my EVO. I'll post some battery life results later. I almost think my phone is a fluke.
I'd definitely recommend this phone to a new Sprint customer. But that's just my vote. I'm sure other EVO users will chime in.
I feel the same to going to test it a little more for the next 2 weeks I am having 3g probelms for some reason a lot slower then my evo and the wifi shuts on and off but the screen is nice keyboard is awasome and is really fast but evo will make a come back
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I feel the same to going to test it a little more for the next 2 weeks I am having 3g probelms for some reason a lot slower then my evo and the wifi shuts on and off but the screen is nice keyboard is awasome and is really fast but evo will make a come back
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Which phone did you end up sticking with?
I too own both, feel like I miss stuff from the EVO, but I am giving the Epic more time to grow. love the screen and +1 for the camera, the Evo has failed me so many times with the camera. Some goods and some bads. if it had tilt/kickstand that would be sweet.
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I too own both, feel like I miss stuff from the EVO, but I am giving the Epic more time to grow. love the screen and +1 for the camera, the Evo has failed me so many times with the camera. Some goods and some bads. if it had tilt/kickstand that would be sweet.
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If you get the dock, it will work as a kickstand (its tilted just right). Unfortunately the dock isnt as portable and the headphone hack on the back wont work until the Epic gets 2.2 apparently.
What else do you miss from the EVO? Aside from the large screen? I also have an EVO and it just sits around. I never have any desire to pick it up... but I also refuse to sell it.
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I would rather take a regular AMOLED, TFT LCD, or Retina display any day of SAMOLED
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Ahm..both AMOLED and Super-AMOLED are pen-tile...aka what you showed in the picture above is for both...
Though there are many reasons to justify an Epic over an EVO..keyboard and screen are not the only reason that make the Epic shine...
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Ahm..both AMOLED and Super-AMOLED are pen-tile...aka what you showed in the picture above is for both...
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He makes a good point. The difference with super amoled is that the touch sensor is integrated into the screen, making the overall display MUCH thinner and lighter. It's still AMOLED. Bright and brilliant. I absolutely love it.
i dont know man.. that picture in the first post doesnt look like my epic.. ( I know its a vibrant, i meant the screen) I even put it on the same contacts screen and i dont notice the pixels like i see them in that picture.. and i have 20/20 vision myself. This screen is amazing to me. especially coming from a touch pro 2. and my buddy has the evo.. His screen looks a little washed out next to mine. But it still looks good though dont get me wrong. I love the size of the evos screen and the kickstand is great too. I just needed the keyboard and processor speed which is why i ended up waiting for the epic to come out.. either way both phones are the best you can get on the market right now
heres a close up of how mine looks. i tried to use a similar screen.. this is with a 10mp camera in macro mode so its pretty close up.. the screen wasnt on full brightness. i can see the pixels in this picture because its so close but i cant get close enough with my eyes to even notice it
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i dont know man.. that picture in the first post doesnt look like my epic.. ( I know its a vibrant, i meant the screen) I even put it on the same contacts screen and i dont notice the pixels like i see them in that picture.. and i have 20/20 vision myself. This screen is amazing to me. especially coming from a touch pro 2. and my buddy has the evo.. His screen looks a little washed out next to mine. But it still looks good though dont get me wrong. I love the size of the evos screen and the kickstand is great too. I just needed the keyboard and processor speed which is why i ended up waiting for the epic to come out.. either way both phones are the best you can get on the market right now
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Considering the monitor size..the left picture is what you see..the right picture if what you would see with a magnifying glass...its not really a fair representation.
What he is seeing is not exactly individual pixels..more like jaggedness..this jaggedness is seen on some small fonts and on straight lines..mostly white lines..but even when text is jagged it is still perfectly readable..it kinda looks a little italic or sharpened lol...on things like bold font or zoomed in text its fairly un-noticable.
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i dont know man.. that picture in the first post doesnt look like my epic.. ( I know its a vibrant, i meant the screen) I even put it on the same contacts screen and i dont notice the pixels like i see them in that picture.. and i have 20/20 vision myself. This screen is amazing to me. especially coming from a touch pro 2. and my buddy has the evo.. His screen looks a little washed out next to mine. But it still looks good though dont get me wrong. I love the size of the evos screen and the kickstand is great too. I just needed the keyboard and processor speed which is why i ended up waiting for the epic to come out.. either way both phones are the best you can get on the market right now
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The evo's screen (and the Iphone's) look very washed out next to one another. Compare title screens for Angry Birds.
1. Processor/GPU.
2. Super Amoled.
3. Touch Screens.
4. Build Quality.
5. Freshness.
6. Great speakers.
I also think Google chose Samsung because of two very big HTC ****ups / backstabs.
1. The Nexus One. A Great Phone...
Except for the touch screen.
This was Google's "baby". And what did HTC do? They shipped all of their devices with faulty touch screens. ALL of them. And people overlook this? Why? This is HUGE. People say Samsung has a bad track record but this dwarfs Samsung's software issues. No I'm not speaking out of my ass, as I do own a Nexus One. I forked 350$ out for one why? Just so I could attempt to deal with the multi-touch issues on my projects.
2. HTC G2. Anti-Root.
No more comment on this. Of course they eventually figured it out, but HTC didn't want you to.
3. ?
Terrible, scratchy speakers on the Nexus One. Even on the G2.
What are your thoughts? I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.
HTC has been great to me but I am happy Google went with Samsung.
Without the SuperAMOLED I wouldn't even be considering this phone as an upgrade to my Nexus-1
I agree with you OP. I loved the look and feel of the Vibrant, but i kept my N1 because of the "Pure Google" experience. I always thought to myself i wish the Galaxy S phone had Vanilla android, that would be amazing! We will see next week.
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HTC has been great to me but I am happy Google went with Samsung.
Without the SuperAMOLED I wouldn't even be considering this phone as an upgrade to my Nexus-1
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Pretty much everything Anderdroid said we both went from Nexus one to galaxy S phones so have plenty of experience between both hardware of the N1/NS
even without SAMOLED this phone its better than nexus one
better multitouch up to 5 finger registration, better external speaker and sound quality is excellent whether its from external,3.5 and even stereo bluetoooth. Not to mention ridiculously fast mobile GPU
But yea SAMOLED is a huge plus IMO produces better whites doesn't seem to have the bluish/purplish tint that i noticed with my N1 and also better in direct sunlight
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Pretty much everything Anderdroid said we both went from Nexus one to galaxy S phones so have plenty of experience between both hardware of the N1/NS
even without SAMOLED this phone its better than nexus one
better multitouch up to 5 finger registration, better external speaker and sound quality is excellent whether its from external,3.5 and even stereo bluetoooth. Not to mention ridiculously fast mobile GPU
But yea SAMOLED is a huge plus IMO produces better whites doesn't seem to have the bluish/purplish tint that i noticed with my N1 and also better in direct sunlight
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Oh yeah! I forgot about how trashy the G2's and Nexus One's speakers are.
HTC failed on screen (multi-touch plague) and speakers - these 2 things alone, made me hate them.
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1. Processor/GPU.
2. Super Amoled.
3. Touch Screens.
4. Build Quality.
5. Freshness.
6. Great speakers.
I also think Google chose Samsung because of two very big HTC ****ups / backstabs.
1. The Nexus One. A Great Phone...
Except for the touch screen.
This was Google's "baby". And what did HTC do? They shipped all of their devices with faulty touch screens. ALL of them. And people overlook this? Why? This is HUGE. People say Samsung has a bad track record but this dwarfs Samsung's software issues. No I'm not speaking out of my ass, as I do own a Nexus One. I forked 350$ out for one why? Just so I could attempt to deal with the multi-touch issues on my projects.
2. HTC G2. Anti-Root.
No more comment on this. Of course they eventually figured it out, but HTC didn't want you to.
3. ?
Terrible, scratchy speakers on the Nexus One. Even on the G2.
What are your thoughts? I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.
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I completely agree with you. You said everything.
I was planning to switch my HTC Desire for a Galaxy S, but the Galaxy S looks too much like an iPhone, and out of the box has bad system file, and touchwiz and stuff like that. Now Nexus S is out, with an unique, gorgeous design, I'm probably gonna buy it. Just wanna see some more reviews.
I honestly don't agree that it looks too much like an iPhone... How exactly? Even then I'm not even anti-iPhone so w/e. I think it has a better design than the iPhone.
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I understand some people prefer the metal and hate the plastic. I for one love the aluminum on the iPad and Macbook Airs. However I also like the way the plastic feels on the Vibrant minus the 'creaks'. It feels very smooth in comparison to the G2 for instance.
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You know what i dont understand is why there haven been any 3rd part aluminum battery cover replacement for galaxy S IMO this would be great
This would solve the whole cheap feel not to mention eliminate fingerprints on the back.
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I honestly don't agree that it looks too much like an iPhone... How exactly? Even then I'm not even anti-iPhone so w/e. I think it has a better design than the iPhone.
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I've got an iPhone 3Gs before my Desire, so I know what I'm talking about.
Many of my friends that saw the Galaxy S phone just said : "holy crap what an iPhone-Like!" without knowing anything about the phone.
With the metal around it, a kind of speaker above, a big home button under the screen, makes it look like an iPhone.
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I'm sorry this does like an iPhone(not only the UI).
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I've got an iPhone 3Gs before my Desire, so I know what I'm talking about.
Many of my friends that saw the Galaxy S phone just said : "holy crap what an iPhone-Like!" without knowing anything about the phone.
With the metal around it, a kind of speaker above, a big home button under the screen, makes it look like an iPhone.
I'm sorry this does like an iPhone(not only the UI).
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Well Im glad the nexus s and any us version of the sgs do not look like that. Only the EU I9000 looks like that and has the buttons like that.
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Well Im glad the nexus s and any us version of the sgs do not look like that. Only the EU I9000 looks like that and has the buttons like that.
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The tmobile vibrant looks the same minus the big home button
I agree with everything the OP said and then some:
- super evil NAND lock on devices making the whole "open" in the OS to pretty much heavily locked down. To date Samsung were very relaxed about securing their devices in evil ways.
Better reach of Samsung all over the world. For exmaple, here in India HTC support is pathetic/kind of non existence. They have just started setting up their own service centers. Whereas samsung is pretty establisehd in this part of the world since long time. So I assume samsung has a wider reach.
But would love to see HTC expand their market here. Very few HTC models here
Samsung was probably the better choice.. though, I don't think I appreciate the material they used to make the NS. The N1 may have had a faulty touchscreen (wasn't that the same touch panel used on all the devices HTC made, prior to their more recent ones?).. but at least it didn't have a plastic covered casing that adores fingerprints.
I don't know exactly what the problem is with using plastic, but everyone doesn't like it.. so.. I'm jumping on the bandwagon, lol. In all seriousness though, why exactly is this so horrible?
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Samsung was probably the better choice.. though, I don't think I appreciate the material they used to make the NS. The N1 may have had a faulty touchscreen (wasn't that the same touch panel used on all the devices HTC made, prior to their more recent ones?).. but at least it didn't have a plastic covered casing that adores fingerprints.
I don't know exactly know what the problem is with using plastic, but everyone doesn't like it.. so.. I'm jumping on the bandwagon, lol. In all seriousness though, why exactly is this so horrible?
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Because it feels/looks more cheap then say, N1/Desire/Iphone 4 etc, the look suits more of a mid range phone, then a top end smartphone.
I have to say one thing I loved about the N1 was the teflon (or whatever it was) coating on the battery panel and back/sides of the phone. It would shrug off fingerprints and was quite hard to nick/scratch. Although after almost a year of use, my N1 does show some of the coating peeling off near the headphone jack and also near the USB plug.
SAMOLED has the bluish tints with their whites as well. And the Pentile Matrix arrangement used in SAMOLED results in not so sharp text. S-LCD is better in that way. Obviously overall both screens kind of tie out.
I agree with most of these posts. Vanilla android plus galaxy s is a dream come true.
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SAMOLED has the bluish tints with their whites as well. And the Pentile Matrix arrangement used in SAMOLED results in not so sharp text. S-LCD is better in that way. Obviously overall both screens kind of tie out.
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I hate hearing that because it makes me wonder if all those tests I've done saying I have 20/20 vision are incorrect since I can't ever see what you all are talking about unless i literally press my eyeball up against the screen. And even then, the screen on my Captivate doesn't have any 'matrices' showing.
Or maybe you just go along with what the detractors say without actually checking out a SAMOLED screen
Arrived today. No discoloration on screen, white looks pretty white especially beside my Samsung and Apple tablets.
Will have to test video to see if there is a blue line. Hoping the case I ordered (VOIA) comes in tomorrow.
Box was unsealed (no sticker of any kind).
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Arrived today. Now discoloration on screen, white looks pretty white especiallly beside my Samsung and Applet tablets.
Will have to test video to see if there is a blue line. Hoping the case I ordered (VOIA) comes in tomorrow.
Box was unsealed (no sticker of any kind).
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Oh your just like me...... lots of tablets.... because you can lol, i cant help myself, i have the nexus 7 2013, the LG G Pad, the Ipad mini with Retina, and the Nexus 10, wise choice on the black G Pad, looks much better
Does the black pick up loads of fingerprints? One of the great things about my silver HTC One is that it just doesnt get dirty... Thats probably why I am leaning towards the Silver/white G Pad
Where'd you get your G Pad from, NewEgg.ca? I'm curious if we can isolate more non-blue-line or poor screen quality tablets to batches that went to Best Buy / NewEgg.com...
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Where'd you get your G Pad from, NewEgg.ca? I'm curious if we can isolate more non-blue-line or poor screen quality tablets to batches that went to Best Buy / NewEgg.com...
I do not have the blue-line and ordered it from Newegg last Monday as part of the $249 offering. Loving this tablet and with CM11 out, makes this a beast.
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Got it from Newegg.ca.
The back does pick up fingerprints (as do most metal backings like the IPad Mini). It is going into a case permanently as soon as it arrives so not a real issue. It does look bloody amazing but I've dropped a tablet in the past and damaged it due to no case (a $500 Toshiba AT270) so making sure that will not happen again.
This thing is honking fast. Loaded my entire book library into Moon + Reader Pro (best Android app for EPUB's) in under 15 minutes!
My GPE was sealed with a single grey piece of tape, not sure why LG isnt sealing some.
My box didn't even have a sticker on it. The box does display a white tablet though so perhaps that is why they were left open.
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Arrived today. No discoloration on screen, white looks pretty white especially beside my Samsung and Apple tablets.
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Can you please post a pic with your G Tab and the other tablets displaying a screen that has a white background so we can see how white it is versus the others? Kind of like I did below.
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Can you please post a pic with your G Tab and the other tablets displaying a screen that has a white background so we can see how white it is versus the others? Kind of like I did below.
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Sure. I'll get out the good camera. My point and shoot Sony will have trouble capturing colors.
Here is a shot. Samsung Tab 3 8.0 on left, IPad Mini (first gen) centre, and LG on right.
It has a warmer tone than either tablet but by itself the screen depicts white quite well. I have never run the Samsung or Mini at full brightness as I find them too bright.
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Here is a shot. Samsung Tab 3 8.0 on left, IPad Mini (first gen) centre, and LG on right.
It has a warmer tone than either tablet but by itself the screen depicts white quite well. I have never run the Samsung or Mini at full brightness as I find them too bright.
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Thank you. Yours looks very similar to mine. My problem is that I use a G2 that is tuned really cool so it makes the G Tab look extra bad to me. If you notice, even the gray tabs for chrome look a little dingy. It has left me extremely disappointed with the G Tab. Hopefully since they have released a GPE edition we will be able to adjust the gamma and saturation. Thanks again for doing that. I have a feeling that all the people that think they have defective units due to a yellow screen, really just prefer the cool look. I noticed in the pics on droid-life today on the GPE edition, their unit has dingy whites too. http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/12/unboxing-and-hands-on-lg-g-pad-8-3-google-play-edition/
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Thank you. Yours looks very similar to mine. My problem is that I use a G2 that is tuned really cool so it makes the G Tab look extra bad to me. If you notice, even the gray tabs for chrome look a little dingy. It has left me extremely disappointed with the G Tab. Hopefully since they have released a GPE edition we will be able to adjust the gamma and saturation. Thanks again for doing that. I have a feeling that all the people that think they have defective units due to a yellow screen, really just prefer the cool look. I noticed in the pics on droid-life today on the GPE edition, their unit has dingy whites too. http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/12/unboxing-and-hands-on-lg-g-pad-8-3-google-play-edition/
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My GPE is calibrated almost the same as N5 screen, it is warm, compared to the G2 it is really warm as the G2 is really cool...
Btw, I just ran a video for almost 40 minutes using the default player and no blue line showed up. Also no dead or stuck pixels.
I just compared it to the Mini 2 and it is actually brighter. The Mini 2 is less bright than the original (battery conservation).
Seeing as I have been running the Samsung at 45% brightness, the LG needs about 65% to be comparable which is fine.
Not really concerned about battery life when on the go.
Got one of these at Memory Express on Black Friday sale.
PNY Powerpack Dual 5200 mAh.
$20 on sale free shipping. I have a lower mAh unit that I use with my Samsung (3200 mAh from Logisys). Gives me roughly another 7-8 hours of charge full use (watching video) and recharges the tablet while in use.
This one will charge two devices at once and has rapid charge. Should provide 10-12 hours of additional power to a tablet.
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My GPE is calibrated almost the same as N5 screen, it is warm, compared to the G2 it is really warm as the G2 is really cool...
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Thanks for the info. I definitely prefer the cooler look. Does your GPE run hot? My CPU temp hit 165° the other day while playing riptide gp 2. I tried to increase the screen brightness and it gave me a toast warning.
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Thanks for the info. I definitely prefer the cooler look. Does your GPE run hot? My CPU temp hit 165° the other day while playing riptide gp 2. I tried to increase the screen brightness and it gave me a toast warning.
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I noticed the tab's top portion was a little warm after constant use, guessing the snapdragon 600 soc is located somewhere there. Wasn't so warm as to feel like it was overheating tho.
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Thanks for the info. I definitely prefer the cooler look. Does your GPE run hot? My CPU temp hit 165° the other day while playing riptide gp 2. I tried to increase the screen brightness and it gave me a toast warning.
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couldn't agree more, cool is the way to go. The brightness doesn't come close but with mods you can get the whites pretty close
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couldn't agree more, cool is the way to go. The brightness doesn't come close but with mods you can get the whites pretty close
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What mods are you running? I saw you mentioned screen adjuster and trickster in the screen quality thread
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What mods are you running? I saw you mentioned screen adjuster and trickster in the screen quality thread
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Trickster is what I am using for now. Both work
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Trickster is what I am using for now. Both work
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Sadly the GPE kernel by default doesnt allow trickster to tweak the gamma/color balance.
Ok, so I am in the camp of those waiting to see the magical unicorn. However, I am growing tired of following the evergrowing "where is my shipment" thread.... There have to be some of you out there with the phone, and searching for each individual thread seems strange. Can we start a full on user impressions thread so that we can get an idea of what to expect on the incredible day that we actually receive our units?
I really like mine, I picked it up today at T-Mobile to use on Verizon. Now, I still may end up going back to T-Mobile because I like the fact that I can have Voice + Data on it and higher voice quality... However, about the device...
Coming from iPhone 6 and then iPhone 6 Plus I was impressed by 5.0. Android finally feels very polished and better designed than iOS8. I actually now see iOS8 as being pretty basic when few months ago it was like a breath of fresh air. The device itself feels great, build quality is good and is more so on a lighter side.
Display is much nicer than what I expected after reading reviews. I actually prefer it to iPhone 6 display as colors pop out a bit more and higher resolution and bigger display really stands out while watching videos. Adaptive brightness is great, I finally do not feel as if my android is too dim on auto brightness. Ambient display is awesome, I like seeing notifications as they come without the need to really waste battery the way it was on iPhone.
Speakers are loud enough, much better than most other phones. I would still give an edge to iPhone 6 for its base, but overall, I love the dual stereo on it. Also, placement is nice, I do not constantly feel as if I am covering the speaker while playing games or holding my phone in landscape.
Camera seems much better than N5 and N4 were... those weren't too good. It took good pics so far, I haven't tested enough to tell you if it is amazing though.
Somewhat disappointed by the back material. Feels cheap compared to the nexus 5 black soft touch. Other than that the screen is great and so is the camera . low light shots are excellent.
Call quality is excellent... Used a hangouts call and it was awesome as well. Latency is lower than with the n5.
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I just picked mine up today. 32GB midnight blue from Sprint. I ordered it Saturday and they said it was on back order and would take 1 to 3 weeks. I went in there today just to see if it had shipped yet and as soon as I walked in the Sprint gal went to the back and brought it out. I wasn't expecting that!
The back of the phone really is a fingerprint magnet! Haha
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Nexus 5 with the slim armor spigen. That case has been through it, but is still standing strong. Has protected my N5 extremely well. 
I've only had this device in hand for about 4 hours but overall I am loving it. The way it feels in the hand is comfortable, the over structure feels durable. Overall it runs smooth and fast. Haven't had it long so I can't really give my overall opinion on it. I'm not disappointed at all. Loving this device so far. No complaints my way!
First battery stats from today.
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First battery stats from today.
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Nice! Look forward to it getting better over time
There are things I like and dislike about this phone. Yes, it's big, but the sheer width of the phone is what makes it cumbersome and slippery at times. The camera is solid which is something I can't say about any other Nexus phone.
Things I like:
Build quality is solid. Feels dense in the way HTC phones feel.
Speakers are wonderful.
That eggshell white color is downright sexy.
Minor nitpicks:
Lollipop isn't as fast as it was on my OnePlus (development build). Not sure if this has something to do with encryption overhead or the fact it's pushing a lot more pixels. The 2 plastic speakers are huge dust magnets.
Is the White version also a fingerprint magnet?
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Somewhat disappointed by the back material. Feels cheap compared to the nexus 5 black soft touch. Other than that the screen is great and so is the camera . low light shots are excellent.
Call quality is excellent... Used a hangouts call and it was awesome as well. Latency is lower than with the n5.
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how does it feel "cheap" compared to the nexus 5's? The only difference i can tell is that the Nexus 5's is more of a rubberized soft-touch feeling, whereas the Nexus 6 is more like a soft-touch/matte plastic. Yes, the rubberized back FEELS better.... but one doesn't really feel any cheaper than the other to me. Besides.... with how much of a fingerprint magnet the back of this phone is, i can't imagine me using this for long without a case. Just have to wait for my Cruzerlite case to come on Saturday (or sooner).
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how does it feel "cheap" compared to the nexus 5's? The only difference i can tell is that the Nexus 5's is more of a rubberized soft-touch feeling, whereas the Nexus 6 is more like a soft-touch/matte plastic. Yes, the rubberized back FEELS better.... but one doesn't really feel any cheaper than the other to me. Besides.... with how much of a fingerprint magnet the back of this phone is, i can't imagine me using this for long without a case. Just have to wait for my Cruzerlite case to come on Saturday (or sooner).
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To me the soft touch feels well engineered...they put thought into it. The regular plastic back feels like no thought went into it at all. It feels the same as a plastic soda bottle. Thus cheap because thoughts are expensive.
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I really like mine, I picked it up today at T-Mobile to use on Verizon. Now, I still may end up going back to T-Mobile because I like the fact that I can have Voice + Data on it and higher voice quality... However, about the device...
Coming from iPhone 6 and then iPhone 6 Plus I was impressed by 5.0. Android finally feels very polished and better designed than iOS8. I actually now see iOS8 as being pretty basic when few months ago it was like a breath of fresh air. The device itself feels great, build quality is good and is more so on a lighter side.
Display is much nicer than what I expected after reading reviews. I actually prefer it to iPhone 6 display as colors pop out a bit more and higher resolution and bigger display really stands out while watching videos. Adaptive brightness is great, I finally do not feel as if my android is too dim on auto brightness. Ambient display is awesome, I like seeing notifications as they come without the need to really waste battery the way it was on iPhone.
Speakers are loud enough, much better than most other phones. I would still give an edge to iPhone 6 for its base, but overall, I love the dual stereo on it. Also, placement is nice, I do not constantly feel as if I am covering the speaker while playing games or holding my phone in landscape.
Camera seems much better than N5 and N4 were... those weren't too good. It took good pics so far, I haven't tested enough to tell you if it is amazing though.
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Hey, could you please share the framework files from your N6 system with me? Thx
Got mine a couple of days ago. It is the most premium feeling nexus yet. I love the mixture of metal and plastic. However it is a little slippery. I normally put a case on my phones but I'm going to be really picky about what I get for this one considering the extra size. After de encrypting the phone it's finally just as fast/ faster than my nexus 5. Still testing battery but so far seems better since it's bigger.
Been using mine for two days now, coming from my Oneplus One.
This phone feels faster in some ways, slower in others. I'm guessing software and apps need better calibration.
Ugh, the screen color seems yellow, but slightly tilted to the side seems much better. OPO had better whites.
Battery in the 6 is horrible compared to OPO, yes I know the dpi...
Camera is awesome
Design is much better than OPO (subjective)
Sound is majestic omg
I couldn't get the hidden led notification to work
Fyi, im rooted and unencrypted
Edit: on the issue of it being slippery I find the opposite to be true. With moist hands after workouts or sweaty hands, the phone sticks to your hand. Maybe with dry hands its slipperier(sp)
got my nexus 6 a few days ago. really enjoying it. it is quite literally the device i've been waiting for, in every way.
what i like:
- the display is bar none. the g3 also has a 2k display but it's not as beautiful, imo (and yes, i owned one). this screen quality/clarity is a jaw-dropper
- battery life is good. for 3220mah its not stellar (5-6 hours SOT) but for the amount of pixels its pushing, its just fine. having had nexus 5 and it's sorry battery life, its nice to have this 6 and know that you'll have enough juice for the day.
- of course lollipop is great. to me, it includes so much more thought and features than kitkat did. when i received my nexus 5 last year, i was immediately rooting and looking for custom roms. KK was so bare bones. beautiful and fluid, but without almost any features it seemed. with lollipop, i dont feel the same. i will of course eventually root and begin trying out custom roms, looking at their optimizations and offerings but in the meantime, stock L is just fine.
- multimedia playback is excellent on this 6" 2k display with dual front facing speakers. seriously.
- i cant hate 6 months of free google play music all access.
- this phone is absolutely everything i want in a device. couldn't be happier.
what i dont like:
- although the phone is absolutely beautiful, it is entirely too slippery, imo. with its size and weight, you WILL drop this phone at some point. i highly recommend a case. as a matter of fact i have mine in one now. i'm using a matte black tpu from Diztronic. once Clay ( @OneStepAhead ) has them back in stock on the website, i highly recommend getting one. i cannot say any more how awesome this phone and case combo is. http://www.tpu-cases.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=44_109&products_id=421
- it would be nice if there was a better notification system in place so that i wouldnt have to pick my phone up to see if i've missed anything. google HAS to know that we live in a connected world now. there were probably 50 ways to approach providing notifications to the user. i dont know why they opted to go the route of initial notification screen wake and then nothing else. i will say this, as much as this would bother me on other phones, this nexus is so great in every other way that i easily look past this annoyance.
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To me the soft touch feels well engineered...they put thought into it. The regular plastic back feels like no thought went into it at all. It feels the same as a plastic soda bottle. Thus cheap because thoughts are expensive.
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Agree 100%. After reading all of the reviews about how premium it felt, I was ready to pull the trigger this Christmas. But I just got hands on with it in the T-Mobile store and I was pretty unpleasantly surprised.
"THAT'S IT? THIS IS IT?"
I turned it over for about twenty seconds before putting it down and not picking it up again. Yes, it may be a minor thing to some, but feel-in-the-hand is one of my top priorities. My N5 feels much better to me, even the weight of it, somehow. By comparison, even the Moto X I held yesterday (the black with the soft touch back) was much more satisfying. The N6 felt like a dummy model. Based on this new info, plus the fact that I was already lamenting the absence of Moto software, I'll be going with the Moto X.
Subjective, I guess. My Nexus 5 looks and feels a lot less premium than my 6.
I've had mine for almost a week while it didn't take long to get used to the size I can actually work it pretty well with one hand. I just don't know if I like having a phone this big
Love this device, was disappointed in battery life...its good and about even to the m8 but I was hoping for more.
I love that it charges really quick, even using another non turbo charger. I find this phone easy to use one handed with the exception of hitting the back button with my right, or the multitask button on the right.
Build quality is superb IMO, speaker is great. Almost as good as m8. Louder than m8 but m8 is slightly more rich. In a lot of ways this reminds me of the m8 just bigger
Finest phone I've ever owned. Trounces the Nexus 5 (which IMO is one of the most comfortable and well-rounded phones ever made) and OPO in build quality and overall performance on every level, although the 7-9+ SOTs on the OPO were pretty nice too. Still happy with my purchase.
I got mine the other day through att and I'm impressed. I came from the Note 3 and was pretty much over the touchwiz stuff. I love the lollipop look. The phone feels great to hold and the screen looks great. I LOVE the turbo charger...went from 14% to 78% in 30mins! Awesome sauce!!!!
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Go look it's pretty cool
How does it feel using it? Give feedback guys..
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How does it feel using it? Give feedback guys..
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I was there today and they had a demo with no straps or anything on it, it was an edge.
It is a lot smaller than it feels and it is light. It really is a pleasure to hold.
The focus is everything they claim it to be. No hunting, near instant focus. It will focus faster than you can, its crazy.
The edge goes down the sides a little more than the S6 edge, but since the back is sloped and they worked it the edge is not as sharp.
^what he said. Light to hold, one hand easy operation. Also was not red hot like the s6s on display
I really wanted to test the fingerprint security but they had it disabled in the menu
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^what he said. Light to hold, one hand easy operation.
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Can your thumb reach the notification menu?
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Can your thumb reach the notification menu?
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Yes, I had a note 4, went to iPhone by mistake 6splus ....so maybe I'm used to the reach. It was was easier to handle over the 6s plus. Smaller in physical size as well
Taking the Edge features out of the equation, how do you think the general usage of the S7 vs the S7 Edge compares? I'm curious about how web pages, pics, videos, etc. look on the curved screen vs the flat S7. Do you really notice the curve in normal use?
Seeing as how the Edge is not much bigger physically and only 5g heavier than the S7, but with a considerably larger screen and battery, I'm considering the Edge even though I initially had no interest. I love the size of my S4, and the S7 is very similar in size, which is good, but it also weighs almost an ounce more, which I don't like.
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Taking the Edge features out of the equation, how do you think the general usage of the S7 vs the S7 Edge compares? I'm curious about how web pages, pics, videos, etc. look on the curved screen vs the flat S7. Do you really notice the curve in normal use?
Seeing as how the Edge is not much bigger physically and only 5g heavier than the S7, but with a considerably larger screen and battery, I'm considering the Edge even though I initially had no interest. I love the size of my S4, and the S7 is very similar in size, which is good, but it also weighs almost an ounce more, which I don't like.
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I only looked at the 7 for a short time. The screen is not that much smaller and would probably work for most.
My 1st thought was that the curve of the edge would be like wasted screen space, but after seeing it, it is not.
Coming from note4 the it would be hard for me to go to a smaller screen. I used to use my laptop at home all the time. Since having a larger screen on the phone, the laptop only comes out when it needs to.
I still think that though it is beautiful and a technological marvel, the edge is a gimmick and a slight disadvantage over a flat screen for reading, pic movies etc
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I still think that though it is beautiful and a technological marvel, the edge is a gimmick and a slight disadvantage over a flat screen for reading, pic movies etc
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How so? I've nearly had the edge for a year now and never had any issues with reading or movie watching. In fact I feel as if the edge enhances the movie watching experience.
Thanks. After seeing a number of articles & videos about the Edge capabilities, they don't look like anything I'd ever use. I briefly had a Note 3 and a G4, which were both too large & unwieldy for me as a daily driver. The Edge isn't significantly bigger bigger or heavier than the S7, but sports a phablet sized screen, so I guess I'll have to check it out for screen usefulness & one-handed use. I really don't care at all what a phone looks like.
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I guess I'll have to check it out for screen usefulness & one-handed use. I really don't care at all what a phone looks like.
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I felt the same way even though I pre ordered yesterday. I was skeptical, but was on for about 20 minutes @ Best Buy and know I made the right choice. For me anyway
I wonder if all Best Buy's have the demos out. I could call before heading out. My local Best Buy doesn't seem have very much demo wise.
I went to Best Buy. Impressive devices. My gut feeling is that the standard S7 will end up being my choice. I'll probably pick up the Edge at T-Mobile a few months after release (I want to see how the ROMs shake out) and try it out for a week or two before deciding if it's too big. The size was borderline for me, and the size of my old Note 3 just felt worse to me the longer I used it, so I'll need to have the option to return it. The Edge is very tall - Note-level height - and one-handed usage was not good. (I'm a 5'-8" male with average sized or slightly smaller hands.) Much better one-handed than the Note 3 and G4, but it was pushing the limits of my hands. To me, the curved screen was a bit disconcerting, but was better than I expected it to be as far as seeming distorted. I definitely like flat screens better, but I think I could live with the Edge in that regard. The standard S7 was of course much closer in size to my S4, although it was a fair bit taller, as well. Not enough to be problematic, although I consider the top & bottom bezel size of both devices to be too large, especially coming from the very compact S4. Not Apple-level gigantism, but a bit disappointing. The weight of the S7 was also noticeably greater than the S4, another negative. But all in all the physical characteristics were pretty good.
They looked great. My battered S4 looks perfectly fine to me, so obviously I don't really care, but credit where it's due. They had black and silver versions in the store. The silver looked pretty cool, but was horrendous for fingerprints, whereas the black was much better in that regard. They were also less slippery in the hand than I thought they might be, which was great.
Camera was way beyond any phone I've ever tried. Actually, I've never used a digital camera that was as quick and clear as the S7. The screen quality and brightness are also the best I've ever seen.
all I wonder is, if the fingerprint scanner is improved, even slightly, in the 7.
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all I wonder is, if the fingerprint scanner is improved, even slightly, in the 7.
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I went to try it and the option is locked out of the display model. I would have deleted it but makes sense for them to disable it. Peeps be locking it and walk away
I hope it works good. It's the ONLY thing I like from the iPhone.
I found the fingerprint scanner the same way. I did enable Developer mode, but it wouldn't let me actually active it. Understandable.
Welp, looks like I will be headed to BB after work today.
yea iphone has that advantage over us. best fingerprint scanner in the market i'd say.
Just played with the edge at BB. I made a great choice. Its slim and feels good in your hand.
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