[D]Discussion (is Xperia really waterproof phone) real experience!! - Xperia Z2 General

Hi everyone,
My topic is about waterproof Xperia and how really it is,
Sony today insists that waterproof is joker to bring more clients,
For me i had a bad experience with Sony, First Water Resistant phone i had is Xperia Z, I tested it in water cautiously because i putted in mind that it is water resist and its never damaged, then i moved to waterproof Z1 Compact, I really loved it Very good Battery Very good Processor in Compact size,I Decided to take with me to waterfalls to take pictures and its dead for month then back to life with no back-light panel!! (All working fine just the screen's back light off)
Today I have Z2 and yesterday i do the same thing take it to waterfalls, work fine taken pic with mates without put it underwater just drizzle of waterfall; then i see back camera get vapor inside!! the phone shut down itself i try to wake it but nothing, i putted it in my t shirt till i back to home.
when i backed to home i buy rice and put it in side for 4 Hours; Vapor out from back camera, i tried to start the phone again, vibrate OK but just dark screen; immediately i switched off again and put it in again in rice (learned from some YouTube video) for a night about 12H in morning i switch it on and its working fine, i test most function working fine till now. this is my experience.
What i want to say that waterproof its just luck, Most of you will say its not Professional it's just for accidental drop, i just say its certified IP58!! but the problem its Sony don't finish their phone correctly because there is still Xperia waterproof phone work fine even in sea. for me i'll never put a phone underwater ,i'll do it again
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Confirm, Its work like charm
Edit 2:
i'm suffering from DOA (Dead on Arrival) From time to time, i'm not sure about source of problem(not firmware)???
best regards.

To be honest I haven't tried. But a friends Z worked fine in water even after service that were made it due to a cracked screen (official service).
But I know lots of people that have S5 have put the multiple times in sea water and they are working all fine. So to me samsung has done a better work after reading that a lot of people here have had water intrusion or even humidity.

I have owned a Xperia Z and now own a Z2! When had my Z, even though he could not be submerged in chlorinated water (pool) I put several times and still works very well in the hands of a friend to whom I sold it. My Z2 is always dirty when I wash in the shower or on tap, never had a problem!
I believe some units really should come with manufacturing problem!

I guess you have bad luck. My xperia z2 is working fine after taking underwater photos. I also wash it every week in the tap water and still nothing bad happened. Just check if flaps are correctly closed before submerging.

Indeed bad luck. Submerged mine many times in a pool to about 2 m.
As long as the flaps are properly closed it works.
Do a web search and you will find a guy in Sweden who had a phone in the Baltic for 6 weeks at 10 m and it worked.

I put my Z2 in my marine aquarium to take photos, I use it to read reddit in the shower sometimes, so far so good

I've done so many times with my z1 and z2 but my z1 got ****ed because i took it in salt water in Thailand it was not functioning properly. Then i washed it with clean water then it was fine but after 4 months the screen was gone. Then i bought z2
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I didn't tested with Z2 yet, but I always wash my previous phone Xperia V with running water if it's dirty, and last time I take it with me for boating, soaked with salt water, no problem at all, even the usb cover is loose (just the plastic link broken). battery is removable, causing less water-proof, but still no problem.
Z2 plastic covers are not tight, did you make sure it's secure before you take it to moistly area?

Had my phone in a pool, sauna, shower and wash it often to remove dirt, grease, oil etc, still works perfectly
I do however get condensation under the rear camera afterwards occasionally but it always clears up in a day or so and still works just fine
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This is pics of my properly covered old Z2 (2 weeks old), after 2-3 mins in hotel pull (1.5 m deep).
Front & rear side was full of water, and after 5-6 mins Z2 was completely dead.
I bought Z2 in authorized Sony distributor (Comtrade) in my country (Serbia).
P. S. Z2 was not constantly under water. I just made couple of pics.

I swim with my Z2 And I wash it with soap for a few times a week. You know, there're a lotta bacteriae on your phones...

V4LKyR said:
I swim with my Z2 And I wash it with soap for a few times a week. You know, there're a lotta bacteriae on your phones...
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thats not too good for the membrane covering the speakers

harrold11237 said:
thats not too good for the membrane covering the speakers
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Once I washed mine with soap! Can not ???

I have Xperia Z1.
I have been in sea water for half hour almost every second day this summer, i have lot of pictures and videos to prove.
And i didnt have a single problem with my waterproofing, i dive a little bit, up to 1 and half meter, and about 10minutes, maybe more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InN29dnyFRg
This is video from my friend, diving with his Xperia Z1 for 6minutes or more.

I had experience with Z, Z1 and now Z2 regarding water proofing and they were up to it! There might be defective devices but that doesn't mean the whole line is. Another thing is that flaps might not be closed properly or open accidently with water flushes so care should be taken with this. After pool or sea water exposure, the device should be washed with tap water and dried properly. Try applying negative pressure with your mouth on mic and speakers to remove retained droplets in them.
Here's my video under seawater......
http://youtu.be/c5JlK1Hwp3c

Water got under my camera lens and LED flash after bringing it into the shower. It completely dried up after 3 days though. However I'm guessing this was due to a manufacturing defect. Other than that, the phone's waterproof is rock solid reliable as my phone still operates perfectly.
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I have had my Z2 for around 3 months now, went to the beach, swam in the sea and had shower with the phone, and it still works like a charm.
I even put it in my short's pocket at the beach and swam for more than 30 minutes before I put it out, no issues.
the Z2 is a true beast underwater in my opinion.

My work fine after alot of water action on a pool. I use it for a while underwater too since friends want to take pictures and videos for there facebook
Just make sure you close the lil side covers and you would be good.
Btw I notice that they are attach by a lil plastic stringy thing. Would that think hold for the lifetime of the phone are would i have problems with it. Cause by the way I see it they dont look like they would last long.

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Arc S build quality

I see a lot of people bragging about the build quality of the Xperia Arc/Arc S. I have a Xperia Arc S and accidentally dropped it in a river and it sat submerged at 1 meter for about a minute. I had to call to find it and it rang underwater, picked up, removed battery. I disassembled it after 2 hours and found no trace of water entering the area with the circuits. I only had to clean the headphones jack and USB port. Everything is working as new, including the speaker, which was exposed the most.
And, yes, i have the Midnight Blue one, and no cracks whatsoever and I am careless with my phone sometimes.
skipme said:
I see a lot of people bragging about the build quality of the Xperia Arc/Arc S. I have a Xperia Arc S and accidentally dropped it in a river and it sat submerged at 1 meter for about a minute. I had to call to find it and it rang underwater, picked up, removed battery. I disassembled it after 2 hours and found no trace of water entering the area with the circuits. I only had to clean the headphones jack and USB port. Everything is working as new, including the speaker, which was exposed the most.
And, yes, i have the Midnight Blue one, and no cracks whatsoever and I am careless with my phone sometimes.
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Arc S is a great phone
Only thing I can say is that you are very lucky.
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Only thing I can say is that you are very lucky.
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No, it's really that Arc S is awesome
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i also dropped my arc s from the top of stairs last night, got a little dent because of rhe railway, but okay after all
Mine is good also
I dropped my arc S onto the ground from about 1 metre a few days ago.
And only a little bit paint-off at a corner of the front.
I was impressed that no scratches or broken parts on my arc S :good:
I have an Arc S now but i am not so sure with its built quality thanks to my old Neo which after two drops and frequent battery cover removing became horrible and cheap. It was making squeaky sounds and made me sell it. Made me hate phone made with plastic. Then i got an Arc S (Still don't know what made me buy a plastic phone again, maybe its awesome design) and my experience with Neo made me buy a case and i am using the phone real carefully. I never dropped it once and only if really necessary i remove battery cover. I am sure if i used it the same way i used my Neo it would have be no much different from how my Neo was. Out of all 2011 xperias only Ray has a good solid build everything else is cheap plastic
Update: I forgot to mention the bloody plastic keys which loses its colour and looks rusted after frequent use. That happened to my Neo. I did a through research and came to the conclusion that the paint went away because i was pressing the buttons with my nails and it had starched them and took of the paint. Now with my Arc S you believe me or not i cut my nails frequently just because i don't want the same fate as my Neo for this phone, which i am starting to love.
My Arc S (with a case) survived a couple of drops between 1 to 1.5 metre, nothing major, not even a noticeable scratch.
I hope I don't have to find out if it will survive a water proof test.
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Only thing I can say is that you are very lucky.
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One Man's Sony Xperia Z2 Survives Six Weeks Submerged In 10 Meters Of Salt Water

One Man's Sony Xperia Z2 Survives Six Weeks Submerged In 10 Meters Of Salt Water
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...six-weeks-submerged-10-meters-salt-water.html
Hopefully mine is that strong too
Have to say that that is sooooo cool and unbelievable at the same time 6 weeks in 10m salt water and still working. Reminds me of my old Sony Ericsson K810i. I had that phone while I was farming and I dropped it by accident and it landed in the cattle feeder went through it and got spat out the back then got run over by another tractor and it still worked. It still doesn't beat that 6 weeks in 10m salt water though. Amazing...
Do any of you plan to submerge your Z2 in 10 meters of salt water for 6 weeks? If so, then this is amazing news for you. :good:
Lucky guy, for some people submerging Z2 in a pool for 3 minutes destroys it...
HugePotato said:
Lucky guy, for some people submerging Z2 in a pool for 3 minutes destroys it...
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Me here , was just doing my daily jogging and it started raining very heavily and the phone get wet and started behaving like a mad phone, touch screen does not respond to my tasks etc , I have send it back to Sony and now using my Nexus4 and that phone have no Battery life:crying:
Touch screen does not work under water/in wet conditions because of the technology we have today. At least the phone has wet finger tracking, which many other phones does not have.
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risky experiment, lucky human being
lucky guy or for just promotional
10m below seawater? lucky guy or not true, unless someone do this in video and post it in youtube, hahaha

Don't wash your Z3C with soapy water...

Today, I was washing my Z3 Compact in the sink with soapy water. It was in contact with water for max. 20 seconds and the water got into the upper speaker.
Even stranger thing happened, the BOTTOM speaker stopped working for a while. (about 10 minutes) I tried to play some songs via the speakers and only one of them was working and the quality of the sound was extremely crappy.
After 10 minutes both speakers strarted working again, but it seems the sound is much quieter now... It maybe has something to do with a message which appeared to me earlier today as well, about some hearing damage, so maybe the phone has set up the audio quieter by itself.
If anybody knows how to set it louder again, please help! Thanks.
Anyway, this phone is not really waterproof
I shower with mine daily, and I've also had in the tub - fully submerged. No issues at all.
Fruktsallad said:
I shower with mine daily, and I've also had in the tub - fully submerged. No issues at all.
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I once was using the phone while having a bath, with no problems. But after I was washing the phone under running water this happened. Maybe soap is the problem(?)...
Soap reduces surface tension (that's what makes it *work*, for Pete's sake). This allows moisture to seep into places that water alone could not.
There is a very high probability that your use of soap caused this problem.
Showering with one is almost as bad, and for similar reasons.
Fruktsallad said:
I shower with mine daily, and I've also had in the tub - fully submerged. No issues at all.
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TJCacher said:
Soap reduces surface tension (that's what makes it *work*, for Pete's sake). This allows moisture to seep into places that water alone could not.
There is a very high probability that your use of soap caused this problem.
Showering with one is almost as bad, and for similar reasons.
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Well I was thinking that no fluid can get into the phone :angel:
I submerged my phone into water and later phoned somebody , the sound was also very muffled and the other person did not understand me very well. This was however due to residual water sitting in the mic/speaker, it dried out after a couple of hours and was fine again. Did not test the speakers at that time but i guess the sound issues that you describe could be very well this.
Just let it dry completely then try again.
2mal16 said:
I submerged my phone into water and later phoned somebody , the sound was also very muffled and the other person did not understand me very well. This was however due to residual water sitting in the mic/speaker, it dried out after a couple of hours and was fine again. Did not test the speakers at that time but i guess the sound issues that you describe could be very well this.
Just let it dry completely then try again.
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I could clearly see the water got into one of the speakers (inside) and after 10 minutes it probably dried out with help of the heat from the phone.
Anyway, It's all good now, but it could kill the speakers. I changed the topic title...
frostitomik said:
I could clearly see the water got into one of the speakers (inside) and after 10 minutes it probably dried out with help of the heat from the phone.
Anyway, It's all good now, but it could kill the speakers. I changed the topic title...
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Well dont get me wrong, i was not able to see any water with bare eye inside the hole, but since waiting and letting it dry removed the issue completely its the only explanation for the muffled sound. Anyway i would never use this phone in water again, since any drop or wear over the time can produce slight damage to the water seals integrity. The phone may be water proof (or not ) when it gets into your hands but that is no guarantee that its goind to stay that way.
In my opinion one should not use the phone underwater even if it is advertised. just be happy that it can take some rain, a spilled beer and if your lucky an accidental drop into pools etc... but i would avoid constantly putting this to the test.
Im pretty sure it says the phone is water resistant not waterproof..
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pricey2009 said:
Im pretty sure it says the phone is water resistant not waterproof..
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That's not really true.
Sony said:
Waterproof design that lets you do more
Xperia Z3 Compact is the smartphone designed to enhance your life. And life isn’t lived inside. With the highest waterproof rating*, Xperia Z3 Compact lets you answer calls in the rain or take pictures in the pool. And it can handle all the drops into the sink in between. Combined with a slim, compact design that’s easy to use with one hand, Xperia Z3 Compact is the Android smartphone that teams durability with beauty.
*In compliance with IP65 and IP68, the Xperia Z3 Compact is protected against the ingress of dust and is waterproof. Provided that all ports and covers are firmly closed, the phone is (i) dust tight and (ii) protected against low-pressure jets of water from all practicable directions in compliance with IP65; and/or (iii) can be kept under 1.5 m of fresh water for up to 30 minutes in compliance with IP68. Abuse and improper use of device will invalidate warranty. For more information see www.sonymobile.com/durability
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Source: http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z3-compact/
I believe Sony says don't expose the phone to detergent or other liquid chemicals (as well as salt water)
Here's the quote:
"...never expose the device to any liquid chemicals. For example, if you’re washing dishes by hand using liquid detergent, avoid bringing your device in contact with the detergent. After exposure to non-fresh water, rinse your device using fresh water."
Source:
http://support.sonymobile.com/globa...sing-your-device-in-wet-and-dusty-conditions/
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took my z5 premium under water(fresh water pool) phone started acting crazy

yea z5 started popping up the notification about if i wanted to open the music app when inserting headphone lol like none stop i had to turn it off cause the notification was popping up one after another one took it out of the water waited a few ,tried again in the water same **** funny my old z2 still working in the water no problem ,what a disappointing with the z5 premium phone works fine after it got dry yours do the same?
You should disable "Smart Connect" app.
There is some water making a short circuit in your headphone jack, so this app will confused and think you inserting headphone then removed it again and again.
hah, ive put my z5 to water, after 30minutes phone was dead, sent to warranty - changed main board, screen, speaker battery, flex
These things are barely splash-proof. Consider yourself lucky it's still working and don't get it wet again.
My Z5P went into Onsen bath with me in Japan, I put it under warm Onsen water for quite a while, and it was absolutely fine.
It's becouse you put it in dirty water. To much minerals and salt. Would happen with pretty much any water resistant phone under such conditions.

[ Underwater Test] : I did it, but ....

Hello alls
As HTC U11 is IP67 rated, things were turning in my head for few days, and I finally take my courage to put it on the water.
Many video are testing that point, but what I find was a little bit obvious.
I have no problem with the phone after its dive on the swimming pool, I only put it 15 or 20 cm max on it. If the screen is working, nothing from the software part was working. I feel like watermake a pressure on the multitask button : I would like to take some pictures but everytime I try to squeeze and engage the photo module but every time, the phone stop the photo application and run the task changer app ... Reall curious.
So I'd like to see if someone here try to take picture under water ?
Thx
I realy hope you didnt put it in salt water..
Thank you for sharing. I did not try this with my U11 yet but my S7, S8 and XZ premium worked fine under water or with water on screen.
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I realy hope you didnt put it in salt water..
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It was in a swimming pool, with no salt treatment
Tested it today. I wish there's an under water mode that turns off touchscreen and touch buttons.
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Tested it today. I wish there's an under water mode that turns off touchscreen and touch buttons.
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Cool
Did you succeed in launching the photo module ? Or was it like me, with multitask launching anytime ?
Fre$h said:
Cool
Did you succeed in launching the photo module ? Or was it like me, with multitask launching anytime ?
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You mean edge sense? That's the only way I launched the camera.
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HTC states it is "water resistant" not waterproof. No way in hell would I put this beast under water LMAO
LibertyMonger said:
HTC states it is "water resistant" not waterproof. No way in hell would I put this beast under water LMAO
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HTC claims the phone has an ip67 rating, so up to 1 meter for a maximum of 30 minutes it should actually be water proof.
I regulary submerged my S7 and used it while showering, the phone was still running strong after a year. Even screen worked under water, pretty cool.
did you try to open the camera 1st and set a timer. After that dive and take the picture?
Carphedon said:
HTC claims the phone has an ip67 rating, so up to 1 meter for a maximum of 30 minutes it should actually be water proof.
I regulary submerged my S7 and used it while showering, the phone was still running strong after a year. Even screen worked under water, pretty cool.
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They also claim water resistant.
Water-resistant: able to resist the penetration of water to some degree but not entirely
Water-repellent: not easily penetrated by water, especially as a result of being treated for such a purpose with a surface coating
Waterproof: impervious to water
Water-resistant: able to resist the penetration of water to some degree but not entirely
Yeah, I wouldn't trust the IP67 rating at all. Also, that's for fresh water, not chemically treated water, soapy water, etc. The warranty information also says that water damage is not covered under the warranty so if you're unlucky and you have a seam that isn't sealed and your phone dies, you've got an expensive paperweight.
Its kind of backwards considering that the M7 survived CNET's ridiculous torture tactics including dropping it in a soda, throwing it out of a moving vehicle, throwing it on a BBQ... They thought it was dead but put it in silica packets for a week anyway and to their surprise, it actually powered on. If I remember correctly, the only thing that was wrong with it was the charging port got damaged in the toss so they had to fight to charge it.
Yep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-YJDiyC5IA - 4:15 to start the torture test and 18:30 to see it power on after all the hell they put it through.
There's no doubt the U11 can't stand up to the same torture the M7 and M8 could. The screen didn't sustain any damage even after being chucked twice out of a moving vehicle while the frame actually started to lift.
Hi, I had a similar experience to yours. As a work around, what i did was submerge only half of the device inside the water(upside down). I was able to get some pictures and videos. But its tricky as you can really see how the picture is coming as half the screen in submerged and the other half is above water. But nevertheless the camera performance was absolutely brilliant.
I do agree, HTC should have an "Underwater" mode that disables the touch buttons and touch screen (but leave the display on). It would be very useful.
Has anyone tried the glove mode for under water pictures? That worked pretty well on my Sony in the shower, so who knows
toooby said:
Has anyone tried the glove mode for under water pictures? That worked pretty well on my Sony in the shower, so who knows
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There is no way I would put my U11 underwater on purpose, it states on the HTC site that it is only water repellent not water proof but go ahead and test it for us I would like to know how well it does lol.
Carphedon said:
HTC claims the phone has an ip67 rating, so up to 1 meter for a maximum of 30 minutes it should actually be water proof.
I regulary submerged my S7 and used it while showering, the phone was still running strong after a year. Even screen worked under water, pretty cool.
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Well I meant to say that they also claim it only to be water resistant. ***EDIT sorry just noticed I already made this comment lol
Hey, my sank all the way down to 1.4 meters deep. No problem at all.
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I work as a construction worker and I've already washed my U11 with clear water at home, because it had a lot of dust on it and inside the charging port. No problem at all.
I just went swimming with my U11 in my pocket. Maybe about 15 mins at 3-4 feet. Currently drying right now. I got itchy and tried powering it on perhaps a bit too soon but I got the HTC screen and it locked up. Screen went off and let it sit for awhile longer. When I press the power button the green LED comes on but nothing else. Waiting and praying it's not dead!

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