Current Ascent Mate 7 is not US-carrier compatible, a new model being release will be - Ascend Mate 7 General

My apologies for the multiple threads. If the moderators see the other one, please delete it.
i spent part of tonight emailing back and forth with Huawei's customer support. You would have to scroll through the public emails I posted and their public responses. What I don't get is why NO reporter NO journalist NO ONE in tech thought to ask Huawei straight out if there is ANOTHER model coming out for the US market? NOTHING I've read talked abou it, so, I asked them, and they responded:
The current model is NOT US-carrier compatible for the following reasons (quoted from their email response):
Huawei Mobile
Thank you for your mail.
Huawei Ascend Mate7 specification is the same, but the 4G frequency is not the same, it support 4G LTE FDD Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28(Aphase), It will be released in the United States.
I went on to ask them when the US-compatible version would be available and they said the following:
Huawei Mobile
Thank you for your mail.
Huawei Ascend Mate7 have a version can work in the United States, but there is no release.

sanjsrik said:
My apologies for the multiple threads. If the moderators see the other one, please delete it.
i spent part of tonight emailing back and forth with Huawei's customer support. You would have to scroll through the public emails I posted and their public responses. What I don't get is why NO reporter NO journalist NO ONE in tech thought to ask Huawei straight out if there is ANOTHER model coming out for the US market? NOTHING I've read talked abou it, so, I asked them, and they responded:
The current model is NOT US-carrier compatible for the following reasons (quoted from their email response):
Huawei Mobile
Thank you for your mail.
Huawei Ascend Mate7 specification is the same, but the 4G frequency is not the same, it support 4G LTE FDD Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28(Aphase), It will be released in the United States.
I went on to ask them when the US-compatible version would be available and they said the following:
Huawei Mobile
Thank you for your mail.
Huawei Ascend Mate7 have a version can work in the United States, but there is no release.
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But with all those LTE frequencies, doesn't it kind of have to be compatible? AT&T uses band 2, 4 and 17 so this phone should work on AT&T LTE since it supports band 4.

YourManAdrian said:
But with all those LTE frequencies, doesn't it kind of have to be compatible? AT&T uses band 2, 4 and 17 so this phone should work on AT&T LTE since it supports band 4.
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Buy one and find out. I'd like to know.

So wait - Not LTE compatible, but will work on HSPA?
sanjsrik said:
My apologies for the multiple threads. If the moderators see the other one, please delete it.
i spent part of tonight emailing back and forth with Huawei's customer support. You would have to scroll through the public emails I posted and their public responses. What I don't get is why NO reporter NO journalist NO ONE in tech thought to ask Huawei straight out if there is ANOTHER model coming out for the US market? NOTHING I've read talked abou it, so, I asked them, and they responded:
The current model is NOT US-carrier compatible for the following reasons (quoted from their email response):
Huawei Mobile
Thank you for your mail.
Huawei Ascend Mate7 specification is the same, but the 4G frequency is not the same, it support 4G LTE FDD Band 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28(Aphase), It will be released in the United States.
I went on to ask them when the US-compatible version would be available and they said the following:
Huawei Mobile
Thank you for your mail.
Huawei Ascend Mate7 have a version can work in the United States, but there is no release.
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Will it work on AT&T in the US - I'm ok if it's not LTE as HSPA pretty fast/reliable.

destardi001 said:
Will it work on AT&T in the US - I'm ok if it's not LTE as HSPA pretty fast/reliable.
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Yeah it's confirmed to work with att without lte. Tmobile works with LTE

confirmed to with T-Mobile how?
10pmStalker said:
Yeah it's confirmed to work with att without lte. Tmobile works with LTE
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Sorry, I'm a bit confused. From Huawei, I got that it isn't compatible with any US-carrier's networks, how is it working with T-Mobile's LTE network? How was that confirmed that it will work with T-Mobile's LTE? Just curious what you mean here?
Thanks in advance.

sanjsrik said:
Sorry, I'm a bit confused. From Huawei, I got that it isn't compatible with any US-carrier's networks, how is it working with T-Mobile's LTE network? How was that confirmed that it will work with T-Mobile's LTE? Just curious what you mean here?
Thanks in advance.
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http://youtu.be/vnCR3G0b8oI?t=41m5s
Sorry that was supposed to start around 40 minutes.

thank you
10pmStalker said:
http://youtu.be/vnCR3G0b8oI?t=41m5s
Sorry that was supposed to start around 40 minutes.
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Thanks for the youtube link. I think I'm going to wait until I know that it is supportrd by T-mobile's LTE network. He states in the video that he put a T-mobile SIM in therr and it worked fine, just want to double-check with Huawei and see what they say. It's a lot of money for a new devuce, just want to be sure.
Thank you for the link.

sanjsrik said:
Thanks for the youtube link. I think I'm going to wait until I know that it is supportrd by T-mobile's LTE network. He states in the video that he put a T-mobile SIM in therr and it worked fine, just want to double-check with Huawei and see what they say. It's a lot of money for a new devuce, just want to be sure.
Thank you for the link.
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Don't waste your time ask Huawei service team.. They doesnt know the phone much than you.
There is 2GB+16GB ROM version FDD-LTE band: B1/B3 1800MHz/2100MHz
3GB RAM+32GB ROM version FDD-LTE band: B1/B3/B7 1800MHz/2100MHz/2600MHz
T-Mobile FDD-LTE: 1700/2100 ?
There are only B1/B3/B7 now because the MIIT(Ministry of Industry and Information Technology,Chinese Telecom manage department) limited.
You will enjoy more bands after un-limited-- Need 2-3 months since Chinese FDD-LTE marketing develop slowly.
Yes, Need flash NEW ROM un-limited then.

xjarl said:
Don't waste your time ask Huawei service team.. They doesnt know the phone much than you.
There is 2GB+16GB ROM version FDD-LTE band: B1/B3 1800MHz/2100MHz
3GB RAM+32GB ROM version FDD-LTE band: B1/B3/B7 1800MHz/2100MHz/2600MHz
T-Mobile FDD-LTE: 1700/2100 ?
There are only B1/B3/B7 now because the MIIT(Ministry of Industry and Information Technology,Chinese Telecom manage department) limited.
You will enjoy more bands after un-limited-- Need 2-3 months since Chinese FDD-LTE marketing develop slowly.
Yes, Need flash NEW ROM un-limited then.
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This still doesn't answer the question as to why the hell the Mate 7 works on T-Mobile LTE (at least according to the guy that reviewed it in the video). Huawei says it doesn't, your spec images say it doesn't, but it does?
What a **** show.

Poi25 said:
This still doesn't answer the question as to why the hell the Mate 7 works on T-Mobile LTE (at least according to the guy that reviewed it in the video). Huawei says it doesn't, your spec images say it doesn't, but it does?
What a **** show.
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If the T-mobile LTE band is 2100MHz, works no problem.
You will unlock the band after NEW ROM released out.
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Poi25 said:
This still doesn't answer the question as to why the hell the Mate 7 works on T-Mobile LTE (at least according to the guy that reviewed it in the video). Huawei says it doesn't, your spec images say it doesn't, but it does?
What a **** show.
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T-Mobile LTE Band is 1700/2100MHz

xjarl said:
T-Mobile LTE Band is 1700/2100MHz
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And you need 1 band or the other, but not both? Isn't it depending on area?

Poi25 said:
And you need 1 band or the other, but not both? Isn't it depending on area?
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Im wrong. Sorry.
You need Both 1700/2100MHz support the same time then 4G available.
Here it is a document of T-mobile about Network band:
http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-6991

Are you saying all it needs is a software update later on to support LTE on more US carriers?

xjarl said:
Im wrong. Sorry.
You need Both 1700/2100MHz support the same time then 4G available.]
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So once again, that should mean that the AM7 will not work on T-Mobile, but according to others, it does.

Better than ever time to wait...
Poi25 said:
So once again, that should mean that the AM7 will not work on T-Mobile, but according to others, it does.
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THIS is why it makes sense to wait. The device is very expensive. rather than plunk down that kind of money for something that "may" work with US carriers, wouldn't it make sense to just wait and see what else is released?

sanjsrik said:
THIS is why it makes sense to wait. The device is very expensive. rather than plunk down that kind of money for something that "may" work with US carriers, wouldn't it make sense to just wait and see what else is released?
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Of course, I'm not buying it right now, just trying to make sense of this mess.

Definitely confused.
Poi25 said:
Of course, I'm not buying it right now, just trying to make sense of this mess.
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Just because it was working doesn't mean he got full LTE speed. As far as my research took me Band 4 (AWS) of T-Mobile uses a 2100 MHz range downlink and 1700 MHz range uplink.
Specs on the Huawei site lists a whole slew of bands, including band 4. It is strange though that sellers on Alibaba and emails from oppomart.com state to the contrary. I just asked oppomart about this and pointed them to the Huawei spec page, and they said then it should support band 4...

jzchen said:
Just because it was working doesn't mean he got full LTE speed. As far as my research took me Band 4 (AWS) of T-Mobile uses a 2100 MHz range downlink and 1700 MHz range uplink.
Specs on the Huawei site lists a whole slew of bands, including band 4. It is strange though that sellers on Alibaba and emails from oppomart.com state to the contrary. I just asked oppomart about this and pointed them to the Huawei spec page, and they said then it should support band 4...
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It was full LTE speed. He said it was way faster than his LG G3 on LTE.

jzchen said:
Just because it was working doesn't mean he got full LTE speed. As far as my research took me Band 4 (AWS) of T-Mobile uses a 2100 MHz range downlink and 1700 MHz range uplink.
Specs on the Huawei site lists a whole slew of bands, including band 4. It is strange though that sellers on Alibaba and emails from oppomart.com state to the contrary. I just asked oppomart about this and pointed them to the Huawei spec page, and they said then it should support band 4...
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I think this is what is happening. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55734439&postcount=9

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3G on AT&T?

i know the euro version won't get 3G here.
but if this phone comes to t-mobile can i unlock it and get 3G on AT&T?
please only answer if you really know the answer, because i plan on getting one if i can get 3G
GustavTheLion said:
i know the euro version won't get 3G here.
but if this phone comes to t-mobile can i unlock it and get 3G on AT&T?
please only answer if you really know the answer, because i plan on getting one if i can get 3G
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no, T-Mo's version won't pick up 3G on AT&T's network. they use different 3G bands. AT&T - 850/1900; T-Mo - 700/2100
Look at post#26 in this thread. Maybe there is some hope that T-mo's version will work on AT&T, but I wouldn't be too optimistic. I certainly wouldn't purchase it based on this information. There's a good chance you won't get a definite answer until the phone is released and someone can post here on this forum if it works with AT&T or not. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if HTC has an agreement with AT&T to disable the radios for AT&T 3G so that folks are forced to buy the AT&T version if they want 3G. I think that is why the latest phone releases in Europe don't support American 3G bands. Earlier phones such as the Kaiser and Hermes models had quad band HSPA that would access 3G in Europe and on AT&T. But, do we know for sure at this point that AT&T is not going to carry this phone? I hear it has been announced on Telstra in Australia which uses the 850 MHz band for 3G. This will work in most areas that support 3G in AT&T's network which is 850/1900. That may be a better option for you than T-mobile's version.
bersca said:
I hear it has been announced on Telstra in Australia which uses the 850 MHz band for 3G.
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Can you tell me where you read this? I've been keeping tabs on Australian blogs and forums and I have yet to have seen a blip on the radar that this has been announced. An Australian blog has even gone as far to say that Telstra has so far refused to comment on whether they have plans to release the HD2.
DialecticThought said:
Can you tell me where you read this? I've been keeping tabs on Australian blogs and forums and I have yet to have seen a blip on the radar that this has been announced. An Australian blog has even gone as far to say that Telstra has so far refused to comment on whether they have plans to release the HD2.
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we'll just have to wait for some concrete evidence of this. I've heard this too, but it was nothing more than a rumor. and if I remember correctly, Telstra didn't release their version of the original Touch HD until 3 months after it was released in Europe. so we'll just have to wait
All I want to ask is why create another thread with exactly the same topic again?
Maybe mod should close this thread.

Still no news on us carrier?

Im hoping for T-Mobile but come one it was announced months and months ago and still no word on carriers.......
There is no confirmation of this, but we do know come July T-Mobile is launching a new Samsung device that is suppose to be Android... so we shall see!
does the galaxy s support 3G on both t-mobile and at&t? the specs say it does HSPA on 1900 and 2100mhz.
wikipedia says t-mobile uses 1700/2100mhz for 3G. the galaxy s only does 2100mhz. so what does this mean? can the galaxy s do 3G on t-mobile?
wikipedia says at&t uses 850mhz and 1900mhz for 3G. galaxy s only does 1900mhz. again, what does this mean? can the galaxy s do 3G on at&t?
this is a little confusing. sorry, i wish i knew more about 3G frequencies. someone please enlighten me. does 3G require operation on two frequencies, or does support for only one 3G frequency allow 3G data connections?
the reason i'm asking is that i'll be in singapore soon, and i might be able to buy a galaxy s, but i want to make sure i can use 3G in the US.
Since the device launches in Europe first, the supported frequencies are tailored for this market. I am pretty sure you will get versions appropriate for the US market, probably even one with CDMA.
ok, so a US version would support different frequencies than the european one. does this mean that the european one definitely can't do 3G in the US? thanks.
Ben74 said:
ok, so a US version would support different frequencies than the european one. does this mean that the european one definitely can't do 3G in the US? thanks.
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I think its either T-Mo runs the same as Euro countries and At&t doesn't or Vice versa. I know one is on a different spectrum. Thats why the nexus had to have a different radio to run 3g on At&t.
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wow i'm slow. I didnt see Ben74's post. I will just leave my post up to look like a d-bag
God i hope its TMO they need a good android phone
Ben74 said:
ok, so a US version would support different frequencies than the european one. does this mean that the european one definitely can't do 3G in the US? thanks.
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anyone got a definitive answer to this question?
It sounds like a phone based on this model (to be called the Samsung i897 or the Samsung Captivate) is rumored to be coming to AT&T soon. I hope it's true!
Ditto. As much as I like my Tilt2, I need something more reliable and less dated (can't stick with WM6.5 much longer...). Wish there was some release date somewhere or else I'll cave into a N1.
Andy Rubin, Googles VP for development will be in Seoul for the launch of the Galaxy S on Tuesday. Maybe, there will be an announcement then of US carriers.
what scares me the most about the galaxy s coming to at&t is that what if they gimp the features like they mandate that you can only video chat via wifi, or they drop the memory? I am somewhat thinking whether it would be smarter just to buy the international version unlocked since it has the 1900 UMTS 3g bands.
doctajay said:
what scares me the most about the galaxy s coming to at&t is that what if they gimp the features like they mandate that you can only video chat via wifi, or they drop the memory? I am somewhat thinking whether it would be smarter just to buy the international version unlocked since it has the 1900 UMTS 3g bands.
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If someone can confirm that the international version would work on AT&T's 3g network, I'd rather just preorder right now to get a vanilla version of the phone rather than a stripped/bloated version.
tysj said:
If someone can confirm that the international version would work on AT&T's 3g network, I'd rather just preorder right now to get a vanilla version of the phone rather than a stripped/bloated version.
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i found this article on androidcentral that says the international version won't do 3G in the USA.
http://www.androidcentral.com/hands-samsung-galaxy-s
The bad news is that what we're looking at here is NOT a U.S.-friendly 3G phone. The hardware as displayed supports EDGE at 850/900/1800/1900MHz, meaning that you could use it in the U.S. But the 3G bands are 900/1900/2100MHz, so you're out of luck if you're looking for the standard 850MHZ 3G goodness.
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also, this article claims that the galaxy s will launch on all major carriers in the US, and they have have some evidence to back it up. good news.
http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s-goes-worldwide-coming-110-countries
We're already pretty sure it's coming to AT&T, T-Mobile, and very possibly Sprint and Verizon in the United States.
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I've been reading a lot of posts, in several places. I see a lot of mixed information about the bands. As it stands now, I'm not sure I trust any of the info. How do you know who is correct?
I've seen more that say it will work than say it won't.
All that being said, I feel safer getting one that has both AT&T bands. Otherwise, I'll find myself somewhere that it doesn't work. But then next is the concern about AT&T crippling.
This was posted today: http://androidandme.com/2010/06/news/samsung-galaxy-s-tipped-for-july-21st-launch-on-t-mobile/
A version of the Galaxy S with T-Mobile applications first appeared last month, but the video evidence was taken down and we have not heard much since then. Now a trusted source has told our friends at TmoNews that the Galaxy S could launch on the Big Magenta as early as next month.
If the tipster is to be believed then T-Mobile will launch the Samsung Galaxy S on July 21st. Based on previous rumors and speculation, this time frame matches up nicely with what we have been hearing. Samsung said the Galaxy S would come to the U.S. this summer and T-Mobile is in need of a high-end phone for their Android lineup.
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another report that the galaxy s will launch on t-mobile
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/08/samsung-teases-next-android-announce-galaxy-s-bound-for-t-mobil/
Ben74 said:
anyone got a definitive answer to this question?
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The vast majority of AT&T's 3g coverage in the US is 850 Mhz. There is some 1900, but they are working on transitioning it to 850.
Tmo uses 1700/2100 for 3g, so again it's the same case.
You'll get some 3g coverage in some areas, but you can't plan on it. Neither carrier has maps available that break down the coverage by frequency
I personally am hoping for an australian version soon. The telstra stuff generally runs on 850/2100, which makes it totally usable for AT&T users in the states.
paulthepwner said:
The vast majority of AT&T's 3g coverage in the US is 850 Mhz. There is some 1900, but they are working on transitioning it to 850.
Tmo uses 1700/2100 for 3g, so again it's the same case.
You'll get some 3g coverage in some areas, but you can't plan on it. Neither carrier has maps available that break down the coverage by frequency
I personally am hoping for an australian version soon. The telstra stuff generally runs on 850/2100, which makes it totally usable for AT&T users in the states.
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thanks paul. that's what i figured.

No LTE for Germany

Hey guys,
today i saw that the S3 for germany will not support LTE.... i really dont get it.. why the hell is samsung doing this ? its completly nonsense... On every other location they will ship a LTE version.. Of course Germany does not have a complete support for LTE, but it is growing very fast.
It really sucks to have many different types of the S3 like the Samsung Galaxy S, Vibrant, Bell and so on.... Does someone know if they are only 2 different types or more ?
They cant be serious, and of course, the want for the S3 with LTE around 600€ and without the same price....
I really hope, that they think again about this decision and ship every S3 with, wether the country supports LTE or not...
What do you guys think about that ?
I won't miss it as much as many will becoz LTE isn't really supported here in Germany as in e.g. the USA...
(Dafür müsste ich zu Vodafone oder so mit Knebelvertrag )
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Hmm you are right mate. But the problem is that many devs come from London, USA and other countrys where LTE is supported so they get other device and our device won't support the roms they develop.. that will be horrible :/
I think as long as there aren't more phones with LTE, providers won't support it more..
I am from austria and also a bit upset that there won't be an LTE version because at least in vienna LTE is already growing.
saphirrot said:
Hmm you are right mate. But the problem is that many devs come from London, USA and other countrys where LTE is supported so they get other device and our device won't support the roms they develop.. that will be horrible :/
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No, we will get the same international device. We won't just be able to use LTE because it's set to the wrong frequecies and cannot be changed as far as I know.
Same with the iPad 3.
Does LTE really have speeds and the data plans to make it worth it over HSPA+? I mean I download hella fast on Three over here in the UK and it has Unlimited data. I've never thought the internet on the phone was too slow, it's faster than my mates broadband and I can stream BBC iPlayer desktop site and Netflix just fine.
I could just imagine coverage being crap as it's just been adopted and if your companies are like what they are here in the UK they'll give you 500mb which you'll hit the limit within 5 mins.
No, we will get the same international device. We won't just be able to use LTE because it's set to the wrong frequecies and cannot be changed as far as I know.
Same with the iPad 3.
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So, that mean that we get the 100% same phone with same hardware and with LTE support for America and other countrys ?
saphirrot said:
So, that mean that we get the 100% same phone with same hardware and with LTE support for America and other countrys ?
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No.
We will get the version that was demoed a week ago with the quad-core exynos, that version will not support "4G", and not only because of frequency bands but because the "4G"(3G-LTE) being rolled out in Europe is not "true" 4G like in the US.
The US version will probably get the Snapdragon S4 as that is currently the best SoC out there that has 4G-LTE built-in, unless Samsung actually has a Exynos SoC with 4G-LTE.
But if they start rolling out 4G-LTE in Europe then frequency bands may also be an issue.
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So, that mean that we get the 100% same phone with same hardware and with LTE support for America and other countrys ?
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Yes and no.
The so called 4G (LTE) in Europe is nothing more than HSPA+ and it's basically only an enhanced version of 3G. Most people are calling it 3.5G+ but it's capable of delivering "true" 4G lte speed. America's providers Sprint/Verizon/AT&T are providing the real 4G technology which the S3 won't be able to achieve due to different frequencies. But from what I know T-Mobile and AT&T are also providing HSPA+ speed as some providers in Europe.
That's completely nonsense that Germany won't get the international version which does indeed supports HSPA+. But the other question would be if your provider do offer it.
http://samsung-galaxy-s3.net/rumors/galaxy-s3-will-have-4g-lte-support-in-europe
LTE SGS3 which will be released this summer in america will feature a completely different chipset because exynos is not capable for these frequencies.
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No.
We will get the version that was demoed a week ago with the quad-core exynos, that version will not support "4G", and not only because of frequency bands but because the "4G"(3G-LTE) being rolled out in Europe is not "true" 4G like in the US.
The US version will probably get the Snapdragon S4 as that is currently the best SoC out there that has 4G-LTE built-in, unless Samsung actually has a Exynos SoC with 4G-LTE.
But if they start rolling out 4G-LTE in Europe then frequency bands may also be an issue.
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Yes and no.
The so called 4G (LTE) in Europe is nothing more than HSPA+ and it's basically only an enhanced version of 3G. Most people are calling it 3.5G+ but it's capable of delivering "true" 4G lte speed. America's providers Sprint/Verizon/AT&T are providing the real 4G technology which the S3 won't be able to achieve due to different frequencies. But from what I know T-Mobile and AT&T are also providing HSPA+ speed as some providers in Europe.
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Why are people still spreading this nonsense, i.e. that there is no "true" LTE in Europe?
Germany does have "true" LTE, the same as is used in the U.S. (but on different bands). Deutsche Telekom is offering up to 100 Mbit/s in their tariffs.
And the network isn't as small as some people make it out to be (and fast growing):
t-mobile.de/funkversorgung/inland/
vodafone.de/privat/hilfe-support/netzabdeckung.html
(I can't post links yet, you have to copy&paste them)
It's true that they offer 42 Mbit/s HSPA+ - but they also have LTE on top of that.
m8tix said:
Yes and no.
The so called 4G (LTE) in Europe is nothing more than HSPA+ and it's basically only an enhanced version of 3G. Most people are calling it 3.5G+ but it's capable of delivering "true" 4G lte speed. America's providers Sprint/Verizon/AT&T are providing the real 4G technology which the S3 won't be able to achieve due to different frequencies. But from what I know T-Mobile and AT&T are also providing HSPA+ speed as some providers in Europe.
That's completely nonsense that Germany won't get the international version which does indeed supports HSPA+. But the other question would be if your provider do offer it.
http://samsung-galaxy-s3.net/rumors/galaxy-s3-will-have-4g-lte-support-in-europe
LTE SGS3 which will be released this summer in america will feature a completely different chipset because exynos is not capable for these frequencies.
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It's funny you say "true" 4g speeds, no network on this planet offers "true" 4g speeds.
No American carrier even gets upto a tenth of what true 4g is.
The LTE out now is 3.9G and carriers don't even offer that fully.
Mike Blitz said:
It's funny you say "true" 4g speeds, no network on this planet offers "true" 4g speeds.
No American carrier even gets upto a tenth of what true 4g is.
The LTE out now is 3.9G and carriers don't even offer that fully.
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this is directed more at the OP than anything, but I own both versions of the phone and have access to LTE networks that regularly get 40-50 mb/s down. In day to day use yes it's faster, but when I use the s4 stateside version browsing the internet literally chunks my battery down by 20 percent points over 20-30 minutes. Streaming video is even more of a joke you might get 2 hours before the phone dies. the HSPA speeds are more than enough for me and I get more than double the battery life just by not using LTE networks. Hope this helps, you shouldn't feel like you're getting ripped off both versions of the phone are good, but I prefer the international version as well as most of the community would agree.
News has it that both Deutsche Telekom and Vodafone will be offering the Galaxy S3 LTE starting mid-october. It will have a quad-core, like the UMTS version.
heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Samsungs-Galaxy-S3-LTE-kommt-nach-Deutschland-1675044.html
Same in the UK man... While LTE will be rolled out this and next year, I've already bought my S3, so I don't have the correct chip... which kinda annoys me! But even if I had the South Korean or US version, the frequencies are different. Sadly, there are no definitive standards for this stuff, so each country, and even each network just pics whatever works for them. Kinda sux!
To add insult to injury though, I can't even get DC-HSPA! Every network in the UK are doing it EXCEPT Vodafone. Not sure why, but they won't do it. My S3 supports it and all, but Voda are being annoying.
Ahh well, in another 2 years I'll have a 4G phone I guess
The German and the Korean Version might be the same, if I'm not mistaken, since Germany needs 800/1800/2600 and Korea 800/1800. From what I've heard the UK will start off with re-farmed 1800 and later add 800/2600, so they would likely be compatible. Not entirely sure.
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Same in the UK man... While LTE will be rolled out this and next year, I've already bought my S3, so I don't have the correct chip... which kinda annoys me! But even if I had the South Korean or US version, the frequencies are different. Sadly, there are no definitive standards for this stuff, so each country, and even each network just pics whatever works for them. Kinda sux!
To add insult to injury though, I can't even get DC-HSPA! Every network in the UK are doing it EXCEPT Vodafone. Not sure why, but they won't do it. My S3 supports it and all, but Voda are being annoying.
Ahh well, in another 2 years I'll have a 4G phone I guess
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On the Samsung UK website, for the S3, it lists the data speed spec as HSPA+21 , which is not DC-HSPA. Does that mean there needs to be a radio update or something before these speeds can be used, or Samsung's website is wrong....?

Great News! Chinese version works on T-Mobile with LTE

This is a glorious day!!!!
Ok, so I was browsing Youtube for some reviews of the Ascend Mate 7 and I came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVV20U5qtU (website here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/huawei-ascend-mate-7-first-impressions.html)
The reviewer (Alexander Maxham) said that he had a Chinese version that was sent to him by Huawei. I asked in the comments whether he had tried any North American SIM cards, and these are the responses I got:
Me:
Thanks for the video. Quick question. I assume you're in North America somewhere, have you tested the Chinese version that you have on any of the North American Networks? There seems to be some confusion about whether there will be a US-specific version of the device or if the Chinese version will give HSPA+ or LTE in the US and Canada.
Alex:
Right now, I have a AT&T sim in there, and it's only HSPA+. But it should work completely on T-Mobile's LTE network. I don't have their SIM right now but should have one in a few days.
Me:
Okay great. If you could give us update when you get it and try it, i'm sure many people would appreciate it. This phone looks great btw. It's almost certainly going to be my next phone (coming from Note 3). I'll subscribe so I can see your full review when it's posted.
Alex:
It fully works on T-Mobile. About the same speeds as my T-Mobile branded LG G3 is getting. Kind of weird usually foreign phones work completely on AT&T and only get EDGE and sometimes HSPA+ on T-Mobile. But it's full on LTE this time around, which is great. 
I see no reason to doubt him. And this makes me very happy. Full LTE on T-Mobile!
Wooohoooooo!!!!!!!
Techngro said:
This is a glorious day!!!!
Ok, so I was browsing Youtube for some reviews of the Ascend Mate 7 and I came across this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNVV20U5qtU (website here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/09/huawei-ascend-mate-7-first-impressions.html)
The reviewer (Alexander Maxham) said that he had a Chinese version that was sent to him by Huawei. I asked in the comments whether he had tried any North American SIM cards, and these are the responses I got:
Me:
Thanks for the video. Quick question. I assume you're in North America somewhere, have you tested the Chinese version that you have on any of the North American Networks? There seems to be some confusion about whether there will be a US-specific version of the device or if the Chinese version will give HSPA+ or LTE in the US and Canada.
Alex:
Right now, I have a AT&T sim in there, and it's only HSPA+. But it should work completely on T-Mobile's LTE network. I don't have their SIM right now but should have one in a few days.
Me:
Okay great. If you could give us update when you get it and try it, i'm sure many people would appreciate it. This phone looks great btw. It's almost certainly going to be my next phone (coming from Note 3). I'll subscribe so I can see your full review when it's posted.
Alex:
It fully works on T-Mobile. About the same speeds as my T-Mobile branded LG G3 is getting. Kind of weird usually foreign phones work completely on AT&T and only get EDGE and sometimes HSPA+ on T-Mobile. But it's full on LTE this time around, which is great. 
I see no reason to doubt him. And this makes me very happy. Full LTE on T-Mobile!
Wooohoooooo!!!!!!!
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thanks for the update, does he have any speed tests to show that his speeds are the same as on his G3?
sanjsrik said:
thanks for the update, does he have any speed tests to show that his speeds are the same as on his G3?
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He hasn't posted his full review yet, only the unboxing. I'm sure he'll discuss the speeds he's getting when he does his full review.
http://youtu.be/vnCR3G0b8oI?t=41m5s
Starting at 41:05 he talks about using it with att and T-Mobile. T-Mobile has LTE. Att dosent
t-Mobile yes?
10pmStalker said:
http://youtu.be/vnCR3G0b8oI?t=41m5s
Starting at 41:05 he talks about using it with att and T-Mobile. T-Mobile has LTE. Att dosent
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Sorry, didn't look at the video, when you say that he talks about using it with at&t and t-mobile, are you saying he says LTE works on T-Mobile?
yes, I will go and look at the video, just can't do that at work.
sanjsrik said:
Sorry, didn't look at the video, when you say that he talks about using it with at&t and t-mobile, are you saying he says LTE works on T-Mobile?
yes, I will go and look at the video, just can't do that at work.
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Yes thats right. He got LTE on T-mobile. He said it was way better speeds than he got with his G3
I find this incredibly ridiculous that news sources, websites, and even Huawei themselves doesn't know what networks the Mate 7 works on. I'll wait for 2 or 3 more people to confirm this works on T-Mobile before buying it. I'd want the 32GB/3GB RAM version, will that work with TMo LTE?
Good news if it works with T Mobile
Poi25 said:
I find this incredibly ridiculous that news sources, websites, and even Huawei themselves doesn't know what networks the Mate 7 works on. I'll wait for 2 or 3 more people to confirm this works on T-Mobile before buying it. I'd want the 32GB/3GB RAM version, will that work with TMo LTE?
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I will be going to Taipei and Thailand in November so maybe I can buy the Mate 7 there. My big worry is whether there would be various models or variations in hardware configurations. I still find it strange that it seems hard to determine if a phone works with a specific carrier until it gets used on that carrier. If the phone says it works on Bands 2 and 4 should it not definitely work on T Mobile's LTE network? I sometimes wonder if the cell phone companies purposely confuse the issue so you will not buy a different phone. I am not an iphone guy but I believe I read that the Sprint and US Cellular Iphones (and maybe Verizon?)
support virtually every cell phone band in the world, if true, that is what I would like to see in a phone. You never know when you might make a wrong turn and end up in Chad or Outer Mongolia!
Bill
Not sure what bands its connecting on... as Tmobile in USA looks like it has 700, 1700 and 1900... but none of those are the reported 1,3,7 LTE FDD bands that the the mate7 is supposed to have.... maybe it also has band 2?
EDIT: If this is true, then it all makes sense how the reviewer was getting full speeds on tmobile. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55468358&postcount=1 + http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55500623&postcount=3IF those bands are available while roaming, then it makes sense as band 2 would enable it. Also band 4.
http://www.zdnet.com/huawei-ascend-...inum-design-and-solid-performance-7000034132/
Further confirmation that the device gets LTE on T-mobile.
So according to this, it works on at LTE too?
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shinji21 said:
So according to this, it works on at LTE too?
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Yes. From the article:
" This version of the Ascend Mate 7 supports LTE and HSPA+ on T-Mobile and AT&T so I am enjoying it on T-Mobile's LTE network."
He didn't list a specific version, but I'm sure he would have mentioned if it were a US specific version as opposed to the normal Chinese version. So far all of the reviews that I have seen where Huawei has sent out a device have been the Chinese version.
Wonder which Chinese version it is since I want to pick one up next month when I travel. Any info is greatly appreciated.
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I don't know personally. Mayne you should go to the article and ask in the comments. They might be kind enough to let you know the specific model number.
I went ahead and asked which version he had working on t-mobile lte in the comments. He said...... "It shows model number MT7-L09. This one has 2GB of RAM and 16GB of internal storage"
He also mentioned with his pre paid ATT sim he was only getting HSPA+.
Interesting. It could be the APN with his att prepaid Sim. But at least it works for T-Mobile for sure.
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MT7-TL10 the 3 gig gold model appears to support identical bands as the 2 gig model above.
It appears aliexpress has updated the description online to include bands 2 and 4 now
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I went ahead and asked which version he had working on t-mobile lte in the comments. He said...... "It shows model number MT7-L09. This one has 2GB of RAM and 16GB of internal storage"
He also mentioned with his pre paid ATT sim he was only getting HSPA+.
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This confirms what I posted in the other thread from the Youtube reviewer (Alex from AndroidHeadlines) who stated that he had gotten HSPA+ on AT&T, but LTE on T-Mobile.
When I Googled the model number (MT7-L09) it brought me to this page (http://consumer.huawei.com/en/mobile-phones/support/manuals/ascend-mate7.htm) which has a US/English support manual for the phone and specs that list bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20/28.
MT7-L09 doesn't appear to be on sale anywhere online? I would rather the 3 gig model anyway. Might just pony up and try it. Shows the band's I need supported now. Coming from the note 3 this is exactly what I hoped the note 4 to be.
nvygw171 said:
MT7-L09 doesn't appear to be on sale anywhere online? I would rather the 3 gig model anyway. Might just pony up and try it. Shows the band's I need supported now. Coming from the note 3 this is exactly what I hoped the note 4 to be.
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Yeah me too. I am just worried about ordering from Aliexpress and having it take a month to get to me. They are notorious for taking forever to ship to the US.
I really wish Huawei would get their stuff together and get this device in people's hands. Just put it on your website and let people pre-order it at least.

Trying to unlock bands (e.g. LTE Band 4, 20, 28)

As you might know, the Mi 6 was announced today. The specs look great for the price (see http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/xiaomi-mi6-news-release-date-price-features-specifications-3653263/) and I thought I finally found the phone I really wanted.
But then the old story hit me again. No support for LTE band 20. As I live in Germany this means no matter what provider I have, I will be affected with less LTE coverage.
So I created this thread to gather any news that involve the possibility and efforts of unlocking the LTE band 20 on the Mi 6.
I hope there are maybe similarities with the ongoing efforts of unlocking the bands of the Mi 5 (http://en.miui.com/thread-242834-1-1.html or here https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/progress-trying-to-unlock-bands-t3337476).
When the Mi 6 is shipped, I hope this will get some attention and we may find a way to unlock it together. :fingers-crossed:
I have the Mi Note Pro and I never spotted anyone succeeding in unlocking band 20.
I live in France and band 20 is one of the 3 main bands but I never suffered any need for band 20. I even had a Sony Z5 premium which had all French bands and I had to switch to 3g because it wouldn't receive well when I am in bed.
Depending on your carrier if you have just another band and live in a city, not having band 20 is not a deal breaker in my humble opinion.
If you really need it I wouldn't wait for sure for a way to unlock band 20.
Mi6 can work with AT&T network?
t.kuschan said:
As you might know, the Mi 6 was announced today. The specs look great for the price (see http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/new-product/mobile-phone/xiaomi-mi6-news-release-date-price-features-specifications-3653263/) and I thought I finally found the phone I really wanted.
But then the old story hit me again. No support for LTE band 20. As I live in Germany this means no matter what provider I have, I will be affected with less LTE coverage.
So I created this thread to gather any news that involve the possibility and efforts of unlocking the LTE band 20 on the Mi 6.
I hope there are maybe similarities with the ongoing efforts of unlocking the bands of the Mi 5 (http://en.miui.com/thread-242834-1-1.html or here https://forum.xda-developers.com/mi-5/how-to/progress-trying-to-unlock-bands-t3337476).
When the Mi 6 is shipped, I hope this will get some attention and we may find a way to unlock it together. :fingers-crossed:
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hi. can you add to the title of this thread the bands 4 and 28, for australia and south america?
kevinx89 said:
mi6 can work with at&t network?
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tdd-lte (b38/b39/b40/b41) fdd-lte (b1/b3/b5/b7/b8) td-scdma (b34/b39) wcdma (b1/b2/b5/b8) cdma(bc0 ) gsm / cdma 1x (b2/b3/b5/b8/bc0 )
EMJI79 said:
I have the Mi Note Pro and I never spotted anyone succeeding in unlocking band 20.
I live in France and band 20 is one of the 3 main bands but I never suffered any need for band 20. I even had a Sony Z5 premium which had all French bands and I had to switch to 3g because it wouldn't receive well when I am in bed.
Depending on your carrier if you have just another band and live in a city, not having band 20 is not a deal breaker in my humble opinion.
If you really need it I wouldn't wait for sure for a way to unlock band 20.
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Yes that is a valid point. As I live in Berlin I won't have any problems here. But since I travel around a lot for work countryside coverage would be a good benefit. But as you mentioned band 20 won't stop me from getting the Mi6.
This thread is just if anybody comes up with a good idea on how this could be done. Just as a 'bonus'.
The most active in unlocking lte bands are people in the OnePlus forum as far as I know.
Why can't Xiaomi give us a US LTE phone. Damnit!!!
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Jooosty said:
Why can't Xiaomi give us a US LTE phone. Damnit!!!
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Because it needs to do a lot, such as patents, internal structure, and so on.
Maybe Xiaomi note3 will behave better.
Band 20 in mi5 CAN NOT be unlocked. It is hardware limited. Please read thread mi5, page 76.
You only need schematic diagram, then you can see.
hbbxmjbb said:
Because it needs to do a lot, such as patents, internal structure, and so on.
Maybe Xiaomi note3 will behave better.
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don't forget US carrier bloatware, and bootloader lock..
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LTE B4 is the real need for NorthAmerica users
jkyoho said:
LTE B4 is the real need for NorthAmerica users
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But Xiaomi is not ready to sale phones in North America now.
RBSonic said:
Band 20 in mi5 CAN NOT be unlocked. It is hardware limited. Please read thread mi5, page 76.
You only need schematic diagram, then you can see.
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Maybe Mi 6 will be different.
Rupurudu! said:
Maybe Mi 6 will be different.
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No, it's a "Chinese"phone,it isn't saling in some countries.
hbbxmjbb said:
No, it's a "Chinese"phone,it isn't saling in some countries.
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It depends on power amplifier and rf modules. In some case it can be unlocked with software or hardware changing.
If somebody find which power amplifier and rf modul are used in mi6, let me known, i tell you if unlock possible.
RBSonic said:
It depends on power amplifier and rf modules. In some case it can be unlocked with software or hardware changing.
If somebody find which power amplifier and rf modul are used in mi6, let me known, i tell you if unlock possible.
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I will buy one in June,I will do some testing.
Jooosty said:
Why can't Xiaomi give us a US LTE phone. Damnit!!!
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Because it's not meant to be sold in the US...
Hakim Farouk said:
Because it's not meant to be sold in the US...
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But still shouldn't the network setup be kept stock... I mean why waster resources on a freaking modem... When u can divert them to something else....
And if I am not wrong Qualcomm​ gives the chipset/modem with all the bands unlocked.. quite like apple .. hence making s truly global phone
rohit25 said:
But still shouldn't the network setup be kept stock... I mean why waster resources on a freaking modem... When u can divert them to something else....
And if I am not wrong Qualcomm gives the chipset/modem with all the bands unlocked.. quite like apple .. hence making s truly global phone
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You could say the same for Oneplus's global and China variant. They must have their reasons. I'm sure everyone, let alone, Xiaomi, know that they don't benefit for locking the bands. So, there's no point speculating on why and rather to just accept the obvious that it was not for the US market or any other country that It's not being sold officially.

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