Z3 or Z2 should I save the money? - Xperia Z3 General

Ok... So I told myself I would wait for the iPhone to come out before I buy anything, well it did and it sucks. Now I'm on the fence. Buy the Z2 for 530 with dock and headphones. Or wait for the Z3 and pay 799.
I know this is a great problem to have. But what you gonna do.
Any thoughts. Are the extra features of the z3 worth the extra 270 dollars.
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Note 3 user here, I also waited to see what the iPhone had to offer and the off contact price alone ($1000) for the 5.5/128 is just plain crazy. Z3 looks awesome, note 4 did not impress either.
Can't say though, I'm a tech junkie and I say get the Z3.

I was in the same boat as you, just picked a Z2 and I couldn't be happier, the battery in this thing is amazing
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both will make you happy.
I'll opt for the Z3 because better screen, slimmer, better waterproofing (nice if you have kids) and possibly even better battery performance.

Z3 also can brighter and save battery than Z2.
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Problem with the Z3, is that it will hit the market at $799, at least that's what never-msrp has the presale on eBay for. Where as I can get a Z2 with cradle for $530. That's a $270 dollar difference.
I'm very dissapointed about the iPhone, detest the camera in the HTC One, and hate the Plastic of the LG G3, Can't do touchwiz. So here I am, debating over the Z2.
The iPhone 5.5 64GB will be 850 off contract... Way to rich for my blood, for a device that has nothing on the $530 Z2 or $799 Z3 + 40 for an SD Card.

For me it will depend on how much better the Z3 is at low light photos.... Most of the time I'm taking photos with my phone I'm out at night so it would be great to finally have clear photos and not fuzzy faces.

I'm just going for the Z3, it's not much much better than Z2, but it's better and newer with improved "things"
I use my Phone for messaging, calling, a lot of music listening over speakers and with headset. And making a lot of pictures with it.
depending on specs. and words from people it is an overall improvement so that made my choise.
I'm getting it with a 2 year T-Mobile contract so I do not have to pay €650 at once, when a new Phone comes out (and it will after 6 months I guess) i'll sell the Z3 and buy the newer one if it's a lot improved over Z3.
we'll see, good luck with your choise, Z2 and Z3 are both Sony and both amazing machines

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Problem with the Z3, is that it will hit the market at $799, at least that's what never-msrp has the presale on eBay for. Where as I can get a Z2 with cradle for $530. That's a $270 dollar difference.
I'm very dissapointed about the iPhone, detest the camera in the HTC One, and hate the Plastic of the LG G3, Can't do touchwiz. So here I am, debating over the Z2.
The iPhone 5.5 64GB will be 850 off contract... Way to rich for my blood, for a device that has nothing on the $530 Z2 or $799 Z3 + 40 for an SD Card.
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I feel the same. If the HTC one had a half decent camera, it would be my number one choice - for sound and the metal back namely. It seems silly that the camera function is my main complaint though. But 4MP is just ludicrous. I keep expecting something better each new model, but nothing. I mean FFS, they are so embarassed about the poor resolution they don't even list in on the specs for the device on their web site. And to add insult to injury, their front facing camera is higher resolution (5MP). What an utter joke.
iPhones are just so overpriced, and so lacking in options. At least now they have two form factors. How revolutionary...

I detest waiting... But I think for now, I will hold off with my iPhone 5S. Until the Z3 is released. See where we are after that. I like the idea of the bumpers and the higher rating for the water proof is an added benefit. I will wait and see... Maybe the Z2 will drop even more in price when the Z3 releases... We shall see..

I say wait fro battery review, maybe loudspeaker review and audio review before deciding but on paper. I favour the z3 the design aside from speaker and notification light is better and the high res audio sounds good and its newer.

I was about to buy the Z2 but Z3 Was announced so i may aswell wait

This might be useful to you. I literally just got a Z2 off contract it was grade A and I paid £330. Then the Z3 gets announced. While there may not seem a lot of difference, here's what I find important.
Improved audio through headphones.
Rounded design
Smaller USB flap (the Z2 covered the sim card tray too, I was like WTF!)
Better screen
Improved battery life ( I currently get about 1 day 7 hours on my Z2)
Improved water resistance, Always good
Thinner
Slightly better performance.
Just that brand new Sony feel.....mmmmm
And that is why I'm selling my Z2 and getting the Z3, hope this helps you in some way!

Jonnyn93 said:
This might be useful to you. I literally just got a Z2 off contract it was grade A and I paid £330. Then the Z3 gets announced. While there may not seem a lot of difference, here's what I find important.
Improved audio through headphones.
Rounded design
Smaller USB flap (the Z2 covered the sim card tray too, I was like WTF!)
Better screen
Improved battery life ( I currently get about 1 day 7 hours on my Z2)
Improved water resistance, Always good
Thinner
Slightly better performance.
Just that brand new Sony feel.....mmmmm
And that is why I'm selling my Z2 and getting the Z3, hope this helps you in some way!
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It does... Thanks!

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I say wait fro battery review, maybe loudspeaker review and audio review before deciding but on paper. I favour the z3 the design aside from speaker and notification light is better and the high res audio sounds good and its newer.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmy-lZjlz6M&list=UUTj40oI2e4BFTUB3LkY7PQg
Its on par with the HTC M8 if not better. I need to know if the screen and battery life is as good or better then I would def get it.
Battery should in theory be better. I have a feeling GSM will rate it at 105HR. 110 would be mindblowing.
The LCD is brighter but are the colors and contrast just as good? We'll seeeee

Broke down and ordered from handtec...

@totaltoanage
thanks for the vid share. that is exactly what i wanted to know/hear.
sounds like Sony did their homework, and made significant improvements to the dual speakers!

@AM Radio
So it looks like the Z3 has about the same if not better battery life then the Z2.
Z3 has ~30mins more time browsing but Z2 has ~30mins more time in Video Playback. This is pretty much equal. I rather have more time browsing anyway.
Z3 has 1 hour more than Z2 in talk time.
Z3 wins in terms of better battery performance!
I'm sold. Btw I'm coming from an iPhone4 LMAO
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3-review-1140p3.php

Handtec has shipped the phone!!!!

Is it wrong I feel like a kid at Christmas, it's just a phone...
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[ LEAK/Discussion ] Xperia Z2 Tablet Specifications/Press Renders

Xperia Z2 Tablet / Sony SGP521 Castor Tab coming soon
As per @Evleaks, Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet Specifications are like this, it will feature Snapdragon 800 SoC 2.3 GHz quad core processor, 10.1" screen display with 1920x1200 resolution Triluminos for Mobile, 3GB RAM, 16 GB internal storage with external SD card slot, 8MP Rear cam and 2 MP front cam, 6000mAh battery, 6.4mm slim almost equal to Xperia Z Ultra, IP waterproof ratings and running android 4.4.2 KitKat firmware.
Via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/02/17/sony-xperia-z2-tablet-specifications-leaked-s800-10-1-hd-screen-3gb-ram-16gb-internal-storage-6000mah-battery-8mp-rear-cam/
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[ UPDATE - 18 Feb ] New Press Renders of Xperia Z2 Tablet and Pics have been leaked.
New Xperia Z2 Tablet press render pics and specifications have been leaked by @GadgetLeaks, stating Xperia Z2 Tablet weighs 426 grams for Wi-Fi version and 439 grams for LTE model. Exact dimension of Xperia Z2 Tablet is 266 x 172 x 6.4 mm.
via - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/02/18/xperia-z2-tablet-press-render-pics-leaked/
And now he leaks the image as well.
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/435532946645061632/photo/1
meh, was hoping for something better, rather disappointed.
maybe it will start off cheaper now compared to the outrageous $500 as the first one originally was.
x000x said:
maybe it will start off cheaper now compared to the outrageous $500 as the first one originally was.
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It is the same price, if not lower, than their direct counterparts from other companies. The iPad was costing $100 more at the time of the release.
Also, more supposed specs:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...ia-tablet-z2-press-renders-leak-onto-twitter/
WiFi: 426g, LTE: 439g. Both lighter than the iPad Air
Dimensions: 266 x 172 x 6.4mm (Except for thickness, which is less than the actual model), has the same exact dimensions as our model.
Considering they follow the Z1 design (Magnetic charger, Aluminium borders), it's impressive that they did all of that, but with the same battery size.
so... because the overpriced ipad was overpriced, that means it was perfectly acceptable for sony to overprice theirs? lol
I wonder why sony just sold off their computer business? and soon their tv business as well? maybe b/c they overpriced their products and hardly anyone bought them?
I've got a tablet z and it's the best one I've owned, I just hope the z2 brings a good kitkat rom as everything for the Z after the original 4.1.2 has been ****e!
Let's face it anything without Apple has to be f=good anyway, I'd pay a premium just to avoid it.
I don't think 500 bucks for a premium device is too much. Sometimes, and with some companies, they are too overpriced, but you pay for what you get.
The iPhone, for example, is a bit overpriced, but it is what you get: A premium device.
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ascariss said:
And now he leaks the image as well.
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/435532946645061632/photo/1
meh, was hoping for something better, rather disappointed.
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check OP for more pics..!
texterted said:
I've got a tablet z and it's the best one I've owned, I just hope the z2 brings a good kitkat rom as everything for the Z after the original 4.1.2 has been ****e!
Let's face it anything without Apple has to be f=good anyway, I'd pay a premium just to avoid it.
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Sony D6503 Aka Sirius and Xperia Z2 Tablet currently both are running 17.1.A.0.XXX KitKat firmware and same features will come on Z2 Tablet hopefully which we saw in D6503 firmware leak
I wouldn't be too happy with the headphone port on the bottom edge.
I was hoping for better screen resolution.
It looks cool but i might skip it as i just bought the tablet z 3 months ago and the Z2 doesn't seem to be THAT much of an impovement
But i do hope we get kit kat with all the features on the tablet Z
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i thought the original z tablet was a triluminos display one ???
N1NJATH3ORY said:
i thought the original z tablet was a triluminos display one ???
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Nop. It was first launched in mobile devices with Z Ultra. We "just" have a IPS screen, which was probably the best Xperia screen Sony has ever made.
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Nop. It was first launched in mobile devices with Z Ultra. We "just" have a IPS screen, which was probably the best Xperia screen Sony has ever made.
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But is the IPS good a triluminos display ? As they both am LCD if i am not mistaken ?
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But is the IPS good a triluminos display ? As they both am LCD if i am not mistaken ?
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IPS is a LCD type. Triluminos is a LCD modification. Something to do with quantum dots and white backlight replaced by a blue one. It adds more colors to the range that LCD generally supports.
IPS and Triluminos can coexist. Such as with the Z1 Compact and Z Ultra, for example.
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I like the specs. 1920x1200 is actually my preference. I got a Asus TF701 which has 2592х1944 resolution. I don't see added benefits really. My movies are at most 1080 anyway. The higher resolution drains the battery more and slows the device down. I like the light weight and thinness even at the expense of the battery capacity. I don't mind charging more frequently to exchange for light weight. My TF701 makes me wrist sore. Having Kitkat is an added bonus. Even Sony decided not to do any Android upgrade, I'd be happy. Kitkat made my $160 Chinese 8.9" iFive X2 tablet fly as compared to the previous JB 4.2.2 firmware. I totally can be happy enough with Kitkat only.
If it's $500 or less, I'll order it as soon as it comes out.
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I like the specs. 1920x1200 is actually my preference. I got a Asus TF701 which has 2592х1944 resolution. I don't see added benefits really. My movies are at most 1080 anyway. The higher resolution drains the battery more and slows the device down. I like the light weight and thinness even at the expense of the battery capacity. I don't mind charging more frequently to exchange for light weight. My TF701 makes me wrist sore. Having Kitkat is an added bonus. Even Sony decided not to do any Android upgrade, I'd be happy. Kitkat made my $160 Chinese 8.9" iFive X2 tablet fly as compared to the previous JB 4.2.2 firmware. I totally can be happy enough with Kitkat only.
If it's $500 or less, I'll order it as soon as it comes out.
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The added benefits of higher display panels is that they are easier on the eyes Especially if you am into reading books or PDF that's where the extra pixels shine
They have a new one! Dammit! >:|:banghead:
Very disappointed with the screen resolution, needs to be higher for a premium tablet.
Will skip this one

Xperia Z2 vs. LG G3

With the LG G3 just around the corner, the decision for which handset to choose has been made so much tougher. I'm wondering where current or prospective Z2 owners stand. Personally i've been waiting for the Z2 in my country for quite some time now but after seeing the video and press renders of the potential LG G3, I have to say my mind has been swayed in LG's direction. Thoughts?
I just love my z2 and won't be going for g3 in any case
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I'm not much moved by the g3 by any means, though it is a gorgeous device... Im still getting the z2 in 2 weeks
I think lg gonna suffer in what matters the most to me, that is battery life. I mean, its fricking huge 5.5inch with 2k resolution and less battery capacity than g2. And not like you will notice more ppi cause we already have more than enough. We will see, but numbers doesnt sound to well
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ladelfm said:
With the LG G3 just around the corner, the decision for which handset to choose has been made so much tougher. I'm wondering where current or prospective Z2 owners stand. Personally i've been waiting for the Z2 in my country for quite some time now but after seeing the video and press renders of the potential LG G3, I have to say my mind has been swayed in LG's direction. Thoughts?
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I too am on the same boat with you, though it has been released some weeks ago here in Sweden, I haven't yet decided (the only concern is 16 Gb storage in Z2, am currently having htc OneX, 32 Gb, so it would be a great upgrade from many aspect, except the storage as it will turn out to a downgrade. I know there's external sd, but moving app data to that ext-sd is no longer supported in Android afaik) better to wait for G3 I think. If it also fails then Note4 can be the next alternative
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I hate screen size more than 5.3
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I think that:
Sony Xperia Z2 > LG G3
Areas where Sony wins:
+Build (aluminium vs plastic on G3)
+IP Rating (most likely G3 will not be water resistant)
+Front-facing speakers
+Screen size (5.2 inch seems plenty, 5.5 is a phablet)
+Sony's skin (LG has one of the uggliest ones on the market)
+20.7MP camera (as shown in many reviews it is one of the best if not the best in the world)
Areas where LG G3 wins:
+ Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Sony, Has anyone even got close to using up the potential of 801 yet? [maybe 4k recording])
but of course we want know for sure until the device is officially unveiled.
shem2409 said:
I think that:
Sony Xperia Z2 > LG G3
Areas where Sony wins:
+Build (aluminium vs plastic on G3)
+IP Rating (most likely G3 will not be water resistant)
+Front-facing speakers
+Screen size (5.2 inch seems plenty, 5.5 is a phablet)
+Sony's skin (LG has one of the uggliest ones on the market)
+20.7MP camera (as shown in many reviews it is one of the best if not the best in the world)
Areas where LG G3 wins:
+ Snapdragon 805 (vs 801 on Sony, Has anyone even got close to using up the potential of 801 yet? [maybe 4k recording])
but of course we want know for sure until the device is officially unveiled.
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I mostly agree but LG might have something up its sleeve I feel.Let's hope they come out with a great phone.Good competition is great for us consumers.
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paras said:
I mostly agree but LG might have something up its sleeve I feel.Let's hope they come out with a great phone.Good competition is great for us consumers.
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Let's see what the laser pointer on the back is for
But I do agree that every manufacturer should be bringing an exclusive feature to their phone as that motivates others to improve. I have tested the Galaxy S5 and the Z2 and currently am in the process of testing the HTC One M8 and for me Xperia Z2 is king. Each phone has features that I like though.
shem2409 said:
Let's see what the laser pointer on the back is for
But I do agree that every manufacturer should be bringing an exclusive feature to their phone as that motivates others to improve. I have tested the Galaxy S5 and the Z2 and currently am in the process of testing the HTC One M8 and for me Xperia Z2 is king. Each phone has features that I like though.
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I hate Samsung and S5.Sold htc one m7 and loved it buy m8 doesn't have anything New so didn't go that way.Sony Xperia z2 has everything and it's a beast to say the least.
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The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
I agree, I would say that a lot of the decision would probably come down to one handed usability personally. If the dimensions of the handsets are the same, I would be swayed more to the one that has the better feel in hand. A better processor to future proof things is obviously an added benefit and OIS is something nice to have. These screen's are just pushing my boundaries though. I remember 2 years ago i said i would never go over 4.7" and then last year i'll never go over 5" with my Galaxy S4, and here we are pushing 5.2 and now possibly 5.5? I don't think a phablet is what I want and could be the deciding factor. Side note: a lot of new reviews from today and yesterday are really praising the Z2. Decisions decisions.
coolmingli said:
The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
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HTC m8 is the same size as z2 but has only a 5 inch display..
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Jiyeon90 said:
HTC m8 is the same size as z2 but has only a 5 inch display..
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Sony is actually taller and wider:
Sony Xperia Z2: 146.8 x 73.3 x 8.2 mm
HTC One M8: 146.4 x 70.6 x 9.4 mm
Because the HTC is more oval it also feels less thick than it actually is and it is a lot more comfortable in one hand. I have tested both and can say that when it comes to just the design the HTC is superior. Sony wins in most other aspects though
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coolmingli said:
The only downside of the z2 is it's size, it looks like the 5.5 inch G3 is the same size as the 5.3 inch Z2.
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Tbh I would rather have a slightly smaller screen and front-facing speakers
For me, 5.2 is really as big as you want in a phone. Anything bigger is heading into Phablet territory so they are 2 very different phones. You can always wait and newer better phones will always come along.
Ive always had Samsung for a while but the Z2 was good enough on paper to jump ship and its a great phone, no regrets. As others have said, great build quality and specs which we all know. If you want to continue waiting regarding the LG, may as well wait a little longer for the rumoured Note 4 which will be even better and they are more comparable given its screen size.
In an hour and a half we shall see what my next phone will be. All the leaks seem promising, this will be a tough choice. I think if the overall dimensions are the same and it has metal construction, it would be a no brainer to go for the LG.
Dimensions are already available, its just a little bigger than z2. Dont fancy even wider phone
Assuming the leaks are true, here's my pre-annoucement breakdown:
G3:
+ larger screen, similar sized body
+ QHD screen, although personally this is arguable the Z2 screen is pretty amazing.
+ OIS camera
+ possibly quicker focusing
Z2:
+ 3GB RAM
+ more traditional button placement
+ waterproof IP58
+ 20MP 1/2.3" sensor w/ f/2.0 lens
Unknowns:
- Battery life, Z2 has excellent battery life
- G3 build/materials (matters for some)
- Removable battery
- QHD resolution impact on performance
Who knows, LG may have some more surprises but that's just how I see things. On the screen side of things, I'll be interesting if it's a pentile screen, and honestly I've always loved high res displays but I'm wondering if QHD would look any different than FHD on a 5" screen. Also there are more to displays than just resolution, color reproduction, white balance, brightness etc etc should also be considered.
Even assuming the G3 is waterproof with a QHD display, metal build and a removable battery, I'd still prefer a Z2 for it's excellent, large size camera sensor, exceptional battery life, larger RAM, and sexy looks.
G3 is made of metal
Apparently has a removable battery and
is the same size as the Z2
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With the knock on thing, the power buttons placement is not going to be an issue either.
It looks great. The even starts in 20 minutes.. I'll be watching it.
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and honestly I've always loved high res displays but I'm wondering if QHD would look any different than FHD on a 5" screen.
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Unless having bionic eyes, QHD is totally useless on screen smaller than 6". So, this is just a marketing argument.

Its time for Z3 Compact! (specs started to leak)

Hi guys,
Z3 Compact specs started to leak. What do you expect of it?
According to DooMLoRD it's gonna have 4.5" screen, Snapdragon 801 @ 2.5 GHz, Adreno 330, 2GB RAM, 20.7 MP rear cam, 2.1 MP front cam, Android KitKat. Here's the pic (White phone is Z3 - black phone is Z3 Compact). From the picture I see it will have S-Force stereo speakers
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Z3C will have bigger screen than Z1C but smaller bezel.
They will be nearly the same size
Z2 compact maybe?
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Beso said:
Z2 compact maybe?
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maybe...
But according to leaks it's Z3 Compact. And bigger phone on the picture is Z3.
If Sony can do a smaller border around the display, make the whole phone thinner and use gorilla glass on front and back and not this ugly plastic... it could be the Z1 Compact v1.1 :fingers-crossed:
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If Sony can do a smaller border around the display, make the whole phone thinner and use gorilla glass on front and back and not this ugly plastic... it could be the Z1 Compact v1.1 :fingers-crossed:
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agreed.
this is z3 compact is nothing but a z1c with few upgrades...
I will buy it if it's not physically larger than the Z1 Compact, love the size of the Z1C.
Well, those 4.5inches are the main reason why I think I might hold off from buying Z1 Compact and wait for Z3 Compact instead. And S-Force a little Hope they keep IPS.
Z3 Compact might be first *perfect* phone to me if leaks are to be believed.
Z1C mainly lacks in some software aspects, whatever it'll be called seems more like a slight evolution than anything else - so if there's something you don't like about the Z1C, you probably won't like the new model as well. Current Z1C models don't have the LED problem, which pretty much reduces the advantages to a glass back cover.
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Well, those 4.5inches are the main reason why I think I might hold off from buying Z1 Compact and wait for Z3 Compact instead. And S-Force a little Hope they keep IPS.
Z3 Compact might be first *perfect* phone to me if leaks are to be believed.
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Then why not wait for Z4 compact because it will have faster cpu, gpu, etc.
Anyway I don't see any reason for someone with Z1C to upgrade to this phone, nothing spectacular just a bit faster.
zxz0O0 said:
Then why not wait for Z4 compact because it will have faster cpu, gpu, etc.
Anyway I don't see any reason for someone with Z1C to upgrade to this phone, nothing spectacular just a bit faster.
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I agree there's no point in upgrading from Z1C to this.
But I don't have Z1C xD
well for z1c owners, this is definitely a non buy. it will probably adress minor changes, like better speakers, a little bit bigger battery, litle bit faster, little bit thinner.
the only thing i am afraid is that loking at the picture, seems like its a bigger device than the z1c. if they could keep z1c dimensions and put a 4.5 display only reducing bezels it would be awesome.
perfect phones appear about ever 3 or 4 months..... until the next new phone comes out and that becomes the "perfect phone"
dat nasty ass bezel
I think 1080p is total overkill for a screen of this size. It will only put more stress on GPU and CPU and therefore consume more power completely needlessly.
My only wishes for improvement of current nearly perfect (IMHO) Z1C are dual speakers and IR blaster.
(I intentionally said dual speakers instead of stereo speakers because you can't really feel stereo effect on two speakers at 10cm distance. I would just like two speakers to increase ring loudness and add "ringer redundancy" in case one speaker is covered buy something in your pocket/bag.)
New rumour from @DooMLoRD's twitter:
Z3C will have bigger screen than Z1C but smaller bezel.
They will be nearly the same size!
As much as I would love to have one I'll have to wait for z4c or z5c I still have a few months to pay up my "old" z1c
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I think 1080p is total overkill for a screen of this size. It will only put more stress on GPU and CPU and therefore consume more power completely needlessly.
My only wishes for improvement of current nearly perfect (IMHO) Z1C are dual speakers and IR blaster.
(I intentionally said dual speakers instead of stereo speakers because you can't really feel stereo effect on two speakers at 10cm distance. I would just like two speakers to increase ring loudness and add "ringer redundancy" in case one speaker is covered buy something in your pocket/bag.)
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I never understood why existing phones didn't also use the earpiece speaker as a dual-purpose loudspeaker. (I assume this is what they are doing?)
The ONLY flaw - (functionally speaking) I think the z1c has is the loudspeaker... my old Nokia 5800 owns the z1c on speaker quality mind you the 5800 still owns nearly ALL modern phones when is comes to playing music through the loudspeaker
Luckily I don't bother playing music through my speaker ever, I use my earphones and fauxsound pre-amped all the way to SIX with n7player :victory:
... listening to MGK, Eminem, Tech n9ne and well, all of Strange Music this way is nothing short of awesome.
If this is real it would be too big for me - the Z1 Compact is just about small enough (would prefer even smaller) - no longer even a 'compact' at 4.5" screen.
When you compare the size of Z3c to Z3 in the picture, it is clearly bigger than z1c. No chance to keep the same size as z1c if you are going to give it a dual stereo front speaker plus upgrade the screen size of 0.2 inch. The size is about the same to HTC One Mini 2 and Galaxy S5 mini now, they both equipped with a 4.5" screen. If you guys want to give an idea of z3c size, just go to phone store to check out mini2/s5 mini.
It has no point to upgrade to z3c for the z1c owner, if you prefer a real small phone, actually z1c might be even a better choice. I consider to get Z3c mainly because the release ver should be used s805 instead and review said that s805 is much more battery friendly over s800/s801, probably could fix the camera over-heating issue on z1/z1c/z2 and provides extra battery life. But it will waste me a lot of money, so I'm not sure to get Z3c at this moment, just for the s805 CPU.

Sony Xperia Z4 Thread

I know it's a little early but there's already info leaked on the upcoming Xperia Z4, which will most likely make it's debut in 2 months during CES in January.
So far we know the following:
New rumors:
Perhaps you've already consumed breakfast, and it is too early for lunch. Still, it is time for you to head toward the spice rack and pull out the salt, because we suggest that you take this story with a least a grain of the stuff. A report published on Saturday lists the rumored specs for both the Sony Xperia Z4 Compact and the Sony Xperia Z4 Ultra. You could say that when it comes to Sony's first half smartphone releases for 2015, this will be the long and short of it.
The Sony Xperia Z4 Compact is expected to maintain the tradition of previous Xperia Compact models by offering flagship type specs in a, well, compact package. For the Xperia Z4 Compact, that means a 4.7-inch screen with a 1080 x 1920 resolution. That combination should provide a high pixel density. Under the hood will be the Snapdragon 810 CPU and there will be 3GB of RAM on board. The device will feature 32GB of native storage and will be equipped with stereo speakers. Back and front-facing cameras will weigh in at 20.7MP and 5MP, respectively. The Xperia Z4 Compact will have IP68 certification and come with LTE Cat.9, Bluetooth 4.1 and NFC connectivity. While a precise battery capacity wasn't leaked, the phone should offer wireless charging.
The Sony Xperia Z4 Ultra will be equipped with a 6.44-inch screen, with a resolution of 1440 x 2560. It also will employ the Snapdragon 810 CPU and have 3GB of RAM inside. A 16MP camera adorns the back of the unit, and the phablet is said to resemble an overgrown Sony Xperia Z3. While the Sony Xperia Z Ultra supported the use of a pencil as an input tool, the Xperia Z4 Ultra will come with its own stylus. The battery capacity for the handset needs to be large to support the huge screen, and the talk is that the cell will weigh in between 3500 and 4000mAh. This is quite a bit different than previous rumors of a Xperia Z4 Ultra with a 5.9-inch glass, powered by a Snapdragon 805 chipset.
Due to the shortages of the Snapdragon 810 chipset, both of these models are now expected to be delayed with a possible launch during the second quarter of the year. On the other hand, the Sony Xperia Z4 and Sony Xperia Z4 Tablet are both expected to be introduced on January 5th, just before the start of the 2014 CES show.
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Old rumors
Same sensor as current Z Line but with new image processing handled by Sonys Imaging Divison (I hope the current Z Line recieves this new image processing with Lollipop)
MWC Anouncement., late March release
Will 810 not 805 like PhoneArena reported
S-Master HX digital amplifier that is seen on Sony’s Walkman audio players. This would be the first time that Sony would use a high-end dedicated audio chip on its Xperia smartphone range
Old rumors
- 5.4" and 5.9" QHD Displays
- 2 variants (Z4, Z4 Ultra)
- Snapdragon 805
- 4.8MP Front facing camera
- 3420mah battery
- Z4 Ultra to have lower 16MP camera with dual LED flash and 5.7mm chassis thickness
Courtesy of phonearena
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Alle...-January-5th-alongside-a-5.9-Z4-Ultra_id63165
Old rumors
- New Octacore Snapdragon 810 chipset
- 4GB RAM
- 5.5" QHD display
- Build size will be similar dimensions to the Z3
- Dual front facing speakers will return to similar design as Z2
- Will retain the classic Xperia "omni-balance" design
- IP68 dust and water proof rating will remain however USB port is now exposed (similar to headphone jack)
- Possibly first phone to debut Sony's next generation 21mp camera with brand new CMOS sensor
- Launching with Android 5.0 Lollipop
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Info on the next generation Sony CMOS sensor for 2015 smartphone cameras can be found in the link below:
http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8165301786/sony-debuts-21mp-stacked-cmos-sensor-for-smartphones
If you find any new information please share it in this thread and I will update this post.
Well this is just depressing for us lol
None of sony clients are exclusive with such short update Phone time, this.is a shame. I just bought my xperia z3.
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None of sony clients are exclusive with such short update Phone time, this.is a shame. I just bought my xperia z3.
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You already knew that Sony have been open about their 6 month flagship phone window.
The good news is that they are planning to change this with the Xperia Z4 and just keep it as their only flagship for 2015. (I'm guessing they may do a successor to the Z Ultra halfway through the year like Samsung does with it's Galaxy and Note phones)
That would be interesting, maybe i could sell my z3 and save the. money to buy a z4, but first have to check if z4 is as good as it seems to.
I like the Z3's speaker openings in the glass. Looks like the Z4 is going back to the Z2 look somewhat, hope not though. It couldn't hurt them if they reduced the top and bottom bezels and made it slightly rounder. I'm hoping they make changes for final production. Z4/M9/G4 can't wait for them.
Although difficult to say with any degree of certainty, it appears that the display size will remain at 5.2"... GSM Arena seems to think so also... However the resolution will most likely jump to 2K.
I, for 1, am def content with 5.2" AND 1080p resolution.
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The 6 month update schedule is what I love about Sony! Keeps my addiction alive
I won't be getting the Z4 if it moves to a 5.5" display. That's just too big. Z3 is like perfect right now.
I say that now, but if the Z4 camera is godlike.... who knows.
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The 6 month update schedule is what I love about Sony! Keeps my addiction alive
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It also makes harder to improve a device, less resources and attention to fixing issues/improvements, since they will be prepping a new model much more quickly.
I'm not banking on a Z4 release until the IMX230 is available, which I thought was March/April 2015 timeframe. The IMX230 is almost enough to make me wait on the Z4 (Z3 en route), but if the phone is substantially larger, I won't have any interest at all.
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I really hope that Verizon continues on with Sony. I have the z3v and absolutely love it.
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I won't be getting the Z4 if it moves to a 5.5" display. That's just too big. Z3 is like perfect right now.
I say that now, but if the Z4 camera is godlike.... who knows.
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This.
The Z3 with 5.2" is perfect size. Anything bigger is just too big for my pockets, unless they reduce the bezel to compensate. Yeah, the camera will be one of the most important thing I'll be looking for on the Z4, seeing the Z3 is pretty horrible at the moment. I don't care much for the 2K resolution gimmick on these tiny screens--they are useless. 1080p is just fine. Also, I hope the quality assurance on the new Z4 line will improve. The Z3 line is just not acceptable from experience.
Well that is unless they go the LG route and reduce the top and bottom dead space to get a 5.5" screen. Sony however refuses to do that for some reason.
I'd prefer front facing speakers then non-existent top/bottom bezels.
Also, I've been managing to get very nice 20.7 manual pics. If u know how to use this camera & do a little homework, it can be quite impressive. Is there room for improvement in the software however - definitely. So far the Z3 has the least amount of cons vs pros then any other device I've owned or used - & I've certainly had a plethora, hehe.
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Taking a look at the supposed pictures of the digitizer , the screen size looks identical to the z3, I don't want them to go quad HD and bigger if they keep the huge bezels, if they do get rid of the bezels maybe they will go with a small battery or just keep the same capacity for the battery and we know 3000 mah is not enough for QHD just ask the G3 and the nexus 6 owners
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Totally agree Chad, I was going to upgrade to an LG G3, then I saw they battery life and it felt like a downgrade from my LG G2. They put a low contrast power hungry screen just so they could show they have QHD which is practically useless in phones (my opinion).
Maybe battery will go on 3900 or 4000 mA, like the new moto maxx
So far the specs look like a beast, let's just it's affordable.
Out of all the things listed, I personally find myself more impressed that they made the USB port to be waterproof. That's truly a step up to their waterproofing innovation.
Also the Z4 to take in some Z2 designs, it looks like Sony is definitely following the successful non-faulty designs of the Z2/Z3v to keep itself waterproof unlike certain Z3 models.
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Sony announces the xperia z4

Today Sony Mobile officially announced the Xperia Z4 on their Japanese website. The Xperia Z4 will be the company's flagship smartphone for 2015, sitting alongside Sony's flagship tablet which is called the Xperia Z4 Tablet. Based on the specifications provided by Sony, it certainly looks like they've done everything possible to make it fit that role with regards to its hardware. Thankfully, Sony's launch page gives pretty much every specification one could be interested in, and I've organized them in the chart below.
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The specifications for the Z4 are certainly appealing. Potential speed and thermal issues relating to Snapdragon 810 aside, the Z4 packs what is basically the best internal hardware available for smartphone manufacturers at the moment. Snapdragon 820 won't be available until the second half of this year at the absolute earliest, and so MSM8994 paired with 3GB of RAM is the fastest you'll see in an Android smartphone that isn't the Galaxy S6.
What may be notable for some is the decision to stay with a 1920x1080 LCD. Given the issues with power consumption and brightness with current 2560x1440 LCD panels, and the relatively limited improvement to sharpness at this display size, I think that staying with a 1080p display was the right decision to make with the Z4.
Design wise, the Xperia Z4 bears a great deal of similarity to its predecessor, the Xperia Z3. While it's not a full metal unibody design, it does have a metal frame surrounding the outside of the device. At 6.9mm it is as thin as the iPhone 6 which is impressive. Sony has also been able to include one of their 20.7MP sensors without introducing a camera hump, although the compromise is its 25mm focal length. Like most of Sony's recent products, the Xperia Z4 has an IP65 / IP68 rating for dust and water protection, which is something that now differentiates it from the flagship devices offered by other manufacturers.
At the moment, Sony hasn't provided any information about when an international release of the Xperia Z4 can be expected. It follows that the price is also unknown, although one can guess that it will be around the same price as this year's other flagship devices.
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When do they learn to put bigger batteries into these devices?
well, Sony didn't announce it as the flagship of 2015... it's not buddy, this is an exclusive release for japan only, and it won't go for sell world wide.. sony is cooking something for the international release which will be the sony's first flagship for 2015, under the name of Xperia Z5, and it'll probably land in the mid of this summer or in IFA 2015 in Germany.
Other than the 810, what is the actual difference to the Z3?...
Mobe1969 said:
Other than the 810, what is the actual difference to the Z3?...
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You don't have to wait ages for lollipop.
cap less usb port
speakers on edge like z2
thinner and lighter
high res bluetooth audio?
This is a phone nobody ask for
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..and so MSM8994 paired with 3GB of RAM is the fastest you'll see in an Android smartphone that isn't the Galaxy S6.
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I heard Sony used DDR3 RAM in the Z4 so it's not exactly the fastest.
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When Sony want to change its design and routine of specs?
i m with Xperia Z2 and still don't have reason to upgrade to new xperia!
I don't know if it s good or not But i just don like it
when i see name "New Generation" of a smartphone i like lots of new features
:good:
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I heard Sony used DDR3 RAM in the Z4 so it's not exactly the fastest.
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My Z2 running SD 801 is already blazing fast. Does it matter what SOC or type of RAM are being armed? Unless you're doing autoCAD on your phone? Lol
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When do they learn to put bigger batteries into these devices?
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+1
I really wanted to see the xperia z3 being the company's flagship for a solid year (September 2014 - September 2015). I guess they're going into the same tactic again.....
I have also heard that Sony mobiles are closing their mobile department. It's good to hear that Sony Xperia Z4 is coming soon. Sony is best among providing mobiles with latest technology.
They have got to improve display. I am not even a picky person when it comes to color accuracy on mobile, but Xperia's screens are so bad for photos and videos. It just doesn't make sense Sony of all OEMs can't get display right on their flagships. (Well, camera is another one that puzzles me but for me display is more immediate)
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They have got to improve display. I am not even a picky person when it comes to color accuracy on mobile, but Xperia's screens are so bad for photos and videos. It just doesn't make sense Sony of all OEMs can't get display right on their flagships. (Well, camera is another one that puzzles me but for me display is more immediate)
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The phone is simply cheap, and that is max you can get for the money you soen..
poordonnao said:
Today Sony Mobile officially announced the Xperia Z4 on their Japanese website. The Xperia Z4 will be the company's flagship smartphone for 2015, sitting alongside Sony's flagship tablet which is called the Xperia Z4 Tablet. Based on the specifications provided by Sony, it certainly looks like they've done everything possible to make it fit that role with regards to its hardware. Thankfully, Sony's launch page gives pretty much every specification one could be interested in, and I've organized them in the chart below.
The specifications for the Z4 are certainly appealing. Potential speed and thermal issues relating to Snapdragon 810 aside, the Z4 packs what is basically the best internal hardware available for smartphone manufacturers at the moment. Snapdragon 820 won't be available until the second half of this year at the absolute earliest, and so MSM8994 paired with 3GB of RAM is the fastest you'll see in an Android smartphone that isn't the Galaxy S6.
What may be notable for some is the decision to stay with a 1920x1080 LCD. Given the issues with power consumption and brightness with current 2560x1440 LCD panels, and the relatively limited improvement to sharpness at this display size, I think that staying with a 1080p display was the right decision to make with the Z4.
Design wise, the Xperia Z4 bears a great deal of similarity to its predecessor, the Xperia Z3. While it's not a full metal unibody design, it does have a metal frame surrounding the outside of the device. At 6.9mm it is as thin as the iPhone 6 which is impressive. Sony has also been able to include one of their 20.7MP sensors without introducing a camera hump, although the compromise is its 25mm focal length. Like most of Sony's recent products, the Xperia Z4 has an IP65 / IP68 rating for dust and water protection, which is something that now differentiates it from the flagship devices offered by other manufacturers.
At the moment, Sony hasn't provided any information about when an international release of the Xperia Z4 can be expected. It follows that the price is also unknown, although one can guess that it will be around the same price as this year's other flagship devices.
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Thanks for the info mate. :good::good:
has anyone heard of a US release date on this? i've been scouring the interwebs but can't find a single source. not even a guess.

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