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Is there FINALLY a Gamepad available for Nexus One?

Hi all,
there are many great old school emulators on Android and i would like to test them out. But playing on the Nexus with soft joypad is horrible, especially for action games.
Is there any gamepad availabe for the nexus which can be docked to the device? There was something like this for the Milestone and other slider devices, but i can't believe that no manufacturer created something which can be used for devices without slider.
I also know that you can hook up your wiimote with the nexus via bluetooth, but thats complete nonsense for me: where should i put my nexus one when holding the wiimote?! On a table? Thats not a real solution.
So can anybody tell me if something like this is available by now? I don't want to buy the PSP Phone for this....

I may be producing one for keyboardless phones.
Its not a gamepad as such, but its a little bit of a work around.
I just need to make sure there's enough interest from people out there.

Forge94 said:
I may be producing one for keyboardless phones.
Its not a gamepad as such, but its a little bit of a work around.
I just need to make sure there's enough interest from people out there.
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everything would be fine for me, as long as you will be able to hold the nexus one (the wiimote solution makes no sense) when you play. And there should be separate hardware buttons, because thats the whole point.

The idea is more of an external keyboard with a game buttons overlay.
The keyboard will be attatched to a protective case which you'll be able to put your phone in and take it out whenever you like.
So yes, you won't need to sit the phone on a table or use the on screen buttons. And the keyboard is the size of the phone, but putting the phone in the case will double the phones thickness. Is that much of an issue for you?
I'm testing out some variables now and hopefully should have a finished product in the coming weeks.

You can use a wiimote over bluetooth, I'm sure there are other bluetooth gamepads... Google is your friend.

Bringing what I miss most of my g1 to my n1? Sign me up.
Forge94 said:
The idea is more of an external keyboard with a game buttons overlay.
The keyboard will be attatched to a protective case which you'll be able to put your phone in and take it out whenever you like.
So yes, you won't need to sit the phone on a table or use the on screen buttons. And the keyboard is the size of the phone, but putting the phone in the case will double the phones thickness. Is that much of an issue for you?
I'm testing out some variables now and hopefully should have a finished product in the coming weeks.
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deprecate said:
Bringing what I miss most of my g1 to my n1? Sign me up.
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Up to how much do you reckon you would pay for one?
Pairing would be via Bluetooth if you're wondering.

Look into the BGP 100 gamepad. You can pair it to your N1 using a piece of software called MMG gamepro.

negroplasty said:
You can use a wiimote over bluetooth, I'm sure there are other bluetooth gamepads... Google is your friend.
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Yup I use this too! Great for NES emulators, but yeah not enough button for other consoles.
Bubble Bobble and playing Contra bring me back ^_^

Sounds perfect to me. Where can I order one?
Forge94 said:
The idea is more of an external keyboard with a game buttons overlay.
The keyboard will be attatched to a protective case which you'll be able to put your phone in and take it out whenever you like.
So yes, you won't need to sit the phone on a table or use the on screen buttons. And the keyboard is the size of the phone, but putting the phone in the case will double the phones thickness. Is that much of an issue for you?
I'm testing out some variables now and hopefully should have a finished product in the coming weeks.
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I know. But the wiimote solution is a bad joke.
negroplasty said:
You can use a wiimote over bluetooth, I'm sure there are other bluetooth gamepads... Google is your friend.
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Shahpur.Azizpour said:
Sounds perfect to me. Where can I order one?
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Not available yet, still under development.

how does the wiimote solution make no sense? If you've got a classic controller and a wiimote, you've got yourself a wireless controller to your SNES/NES/Genesis. The wiimote soultion is the best, and only solution at this point.

bjonesy77 said:
how does the wiimote solution make no sense? If you've got a classic controller and a wiimote, you've got yourself a wireless controller to your SNES/NES/Genesis. The wiimote soultion is the best, and only solution at this point.
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um...the nexus one is supposed to be a "handheld" device. There is no sense at all to use a wiimote, and then have to put the nexus one on a table or something to play. It does'nt get more uncomfortable than that.
Can you imagine using this approach on the go?

miker2431 said:
Look into the BGP 100 gamepad. You can pair it to your N1 using a piece of software called MMG gamepro.
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That doesn't look bad. But it seems like this pad is hard to find...and pretty old. i don't know if it will work with the nexus one.
I really like the concept though. Only thing i don't like is the fact that you can't play in landscape mode, as the controller only holds the devices in potrait mode...

~$25
http://www.dealextreme.com/p/msi-bgp100-bluetooth-gamepad-1-aaa-battery-included-13760
Landscape would be an issue, but I think you'd find that on any gamepad/holder you come across. Perhaps you can take the thing apart and make your own casing. I'm thinking a combination of a 2x4 and a coat hanger + some foam pads + duct tape.
Yeehaw.
I wonder if any 3rd party Wii controllers have an "All-In-One" solution. Having a Wiimote hanging off of your Wrist via wriststrap while grasping the classic controller is hell. You would think that some smart 3rd party designer would simply mix the wiimote inside a classic controller and be done with it.
[Update 1]
Looks like this is an AIO solution: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd-bw5UxxsA
Googled: Wireless Classic Controller
Some use a little nub to communicate to the WiiMote but this looks to communicate with the Wii Directly.
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Yea I think I am right. This Controller has bluetooth built in so it eliminates the use of a Wiimote in the middle. It works by using android software from the market, perhaps the same one we're used to with the Wiimotes
Here is a review:
http://androidforums.com/android-games/89229-datel-wii-wireless-retro-controller-works.html
Here is the link to buy. Only $39
http://us.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-Wireless-Retro-Controller___EF000622.aspx
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I have that Datel one, it's absolutely perfect. Cost me around £15-17. They're getting harder to track down for a fair price lately, so if you have the opportunity to buy one, do it!
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Shahpur.Azizpour said:
I know. But the wiimote solution is a bad joke.
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I thought it was quite ingenious and worked pretty well.
I've also got a mini USB bluetooth keyboard that is roughly the same size of the N1 that I can use. I got it from some site in China, (EDIT: here) but it's one of these things:
http://www.adapt-mobile.com/multimedia/product/view/adapt_adk_100_micro_keyboard
The same thing is available under lots of different rebranded labels. It works pretty well though.

knightnz said:
I thought it was quite ingenious and worked pretty well.
I've also got a mini USB bluetooth keyboard that is roughly the same size of the N1 that I can use. I got it from some site in China, (EDIT: here) but it's one of these things:
http://www.adapt-mobile.com/multimedia/product/view/adapt_adk_100_micro_keyboard
The same thing is available under lots of different rebranded labels. It works pretty well though.
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Thats actually pretty cool. I guess it would work well for some games. I kinda like the idea of having a DPAD though. I could see the keyboard getting use out of things like a USB or a Bluetooth media streamer like a Boxee (if it has bluetooth, I dunno).
I think when I grab some dough I'll pick up one of the $40 gamepads. I don't mind having to put the screen on a table or something. I love to play old school games and I travel alot. So as long as I can play and play with ease.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
um...the nexus one is supposed to be a "handheld" device. There is no sense at all to use a wiimote, and then have to put the nexus one on a table or something to play. It does'nt get more uncomfortable than that.
Can you imagine using this approach on the go?
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There isn't really an elegant solution with any existing Bluetooth gamepads simply because Bluetooth doesn't require a physical connection between devices, and manufacturers are of the opinion that there isn't much demand for gamepad docks for Android and iPhone. Not only that, but most games also assume you'll be using touch controls, so you're limited mostly to emulators and smaller third party developers for support for extended input methods from Bluetooth gamepads.
For now if you need a way to combine the phone and gamepad so that they operate as a single handheld unit, you can feel free to modify them, such as can be seen in this video. Kinda sucks to ruin a Wii remote like that, but there are probably other ways to do it with some velcro and Sugru that won't destroy a perfectly good controller.

still worth?

Hello guys
my first android was a Motorola Atrix, then a Atrix 2, now i have the samsung Galaxy S duos, but i saw the Xperia play with friend(for the first time) and i loved play with him.
i want to buy a new one, my Galaxy is more expensive than a Xperia play so i can "change" and doesnt waste nothing, but i want to know if it has problems or i can buy without hesitating.
so it have problems like... my earlyer Atrix have a fingerprint reader but with ICS it have issues...
thanks

mucego said:
Hello guys
my first android was a Motorola Atrix, then a Atrix 2, now i have the samsung Galaxy S duos, but i saw the Xperia play with friend(for the first time) and i loved play with him.
i want to buy a new one, my Galaxy is more expensive than a Xperia play so i can "change" and doesnt waste nothing, but i want to know if it has problems or i can buy without hesitating.
so it have problems like... my earlyer Atrix have a fingerprint reader but with ICS it have issues...
thanks
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I would recommend getting a more powerful phone and using a bluetooth controller. The play is really outdated now IMHO.

chick3n564 said:
I would recommend getting a more powerful phone and using a bluetooth controller. The play is really outdated now IMHO.
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I'd probably do this aswell
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Right now it's not a smart choice. Yes, its gamepad it's a gem to play anywhere but its official rom it's outdated and has some limitations about RAM and internal memory.
If you want to sort these limitations you will have to take some time installing a custom rom and tuning the configuration so, imho, if you don't mind about try some custom roms and you can find it cheap then go ahead, otherwise look for a more logical choice.

Since there is absolutely, positively not a single Bluetooth gamepad on this planet with as much software support as Xperia Play has, it's still the best choice for gamers.
There's a lotta better specs out there, but with so little necessitating all that power, their best use is for... well... **** measuring. Xperia Play handles things just fine with what it has regardless of whether it's old or new. Doesn't legally get 4.x.x, but since this is not iOS, we have many app supplements that net us 4.x.x features...and we get that extraordinary stability/software support that was compromised by newer FWs.
Honestly, I don't know the first thing about tweaks, yet my YouTube is constantly blown up with questions about what I do to make my Xperia Play so smooth. All I've ever been doing is running a debloated stock ROM to get iPhone-tier fluidity...and with link2sd, the onboard storage complaint even becomes invalid.
Only thing I wouldn't recommend is using a contract upgrade on a phone that's so low-cost... and that's just 'cause there's more strategic ways to work the system.
The Xperia Play is; however, still a good phone.
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tbh, if you can put up with a few fps drops here and there on heavy 3d games (e.g. modern combat, wild blood, dark knight rises, gta etc) and also play them at low settings then its a good gaming phone. Yes the hardware is outdated but if you get a custom ROM and then overclock your phone then it should be alright.

Honestly the phone feel fairly smooth using stock or NXT rom. If you use a light rom or debloat it, it feel smooth overall. It only slow down once you install custom ICS or JB roms.
The one thing I miss is can't do is play high bitrates HD movies like newer phones. Also having to stay on GB you get the speed, but miss out ICS features and apps that aren't compatible with GB.
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mucego said:
Hello guys
my first android was a Motorola Atrix, then a Atrix 2, now i have the samsung Galaxy S duos, but i saw the Xperia play with friend(for the first time) and i loved play with him.
i want to buy a new one, my Galaxy is more expensive than a Xperia play so i can "change" and doesnt waste nothing, but i want to know if it has problems or i can buy without hesitating.
so it have problems like... my earlyer Atrix have a fingerprint reader but with ICS it have issues...
thanks
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Check this thread and post No.5

TLRtheory said:
Since there is absolutely, positively not a single Bluetooth gamepad on this planet with as much software support as Xperia Play has, it's still the best choice for gamers.
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Not to be a **** or anything, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one. The MOGA in my opinion is starting to gain a ton of support from developers and the hardware itself works very well. When you couple this with the MOGA universal IME app, it gains all the capabilities of the ps3 controller. I love my Play, but I will take my GSIII and MOGA over the Play when playing Dead Trigger any day.
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LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Not to be a **** or anything, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one. The MOGA in my opinion is starting to gain a ton of support from developers and the hardware itself works very well. When you couple this with the MOGA universal IME app, it gains all the capabilities of the ps3 controller. I love my Play, but I will take my GSIII and MOGA over the Play when playing Dead Trigger any day.
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I disagree with that. We were sent a couple of MOGA's to use/review with are Xperia S, T and V but find for portable gaming it just does not work as good as you would want.
To start with the connection takes along time to kick in and then disconnects time to time during game play (Normally with Gameloft games). Having the MOGA app always running in the background gives the system more to process which cause's lag in games, they also seam to have a mined of their own (Keep moving in the same direction after you let go and are very inaccurate overall). The controller is not supported as a generic HID device meaning you need a 3rd party app and root to be able to play emulators and Non MOGA support games.
The other issues are to do with the physical form. The weight when the controller holds a phone is unevenly distributed (The phone weights a lot more then the controller meaning its top heavy (Not great for long periods of gaming), that's why there is a lip on the back of the controller to prop it all up. The sticks are stiff with no grip (Easy grip fix, take the foam pads out so they cup round your finger) and are useless for any FPS (Try out online multiplayer MC4, Nova 3). The lack of buttons (No d-pad, No L2, R2) and plus the fact you need AAA battery's to power it (Not ideal).
I could go on and on but Moga is no competition for the Xperia Play (purpose built for gaming, not an add-on) . If on public transport and want to play a quick game, its much better to slide the play open and play compared to getting the MOGA out of your bag or pocket, turn on bluetooth, clip in phone, wait for moga to connect to device and so on.
The list of games are on the increase but still only around 40 compared to the 400 on the Xperia Play. Its a novel way to play games at the moment and that's why some game developers are supporting it. But cant see this being a long time thing.

IMO ps3 pad with gameklip is the best setup maybe not so portable but for actually gaming its better than the xperia play
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Wow, I honestly think that you both got a bad unit and haven't spent much time with it since launch.
First of all, in regards to the game selection, its true if you only use the company provided Pivot app, it only supports around 50 games. But what you are forgetting/ignoring is the MOGA universal driver app that makes it work as a standard HID controller just like the ps3 that allows it to play ANY game that works with HID contollers plus act as an ime that can emulate PLAY controls. There is not a single Play game that I cannot play without controls on my SGS III. Not a single one. This includes emulators. I can even use gamekeyboard if I wanted. I like my play too, but you are just ignoring the facts here.
Second, the connection honestly takes around 2-3 seconds for me and I have NEVER had a disconnect, not once. I have run quadrant with the pivot app and without and have seen no noticable difference, and it is the same with gameplay. I have one of the heaviest devices available and it does not seem top heavy at all. I think the comment people make about the sticks being stick is due to the fact that it is a smaller controller than normal so of course the sticks would have less travel area, it is just a matter of getting used to it just like it was with the Play touchpads. I have played several FPS's with the pad, MC4, Dead Trigger, Shadowgun, ETC, and have actually been impressed at the sensitivity and ease of use.
The argument that it is a pain to carry around is I think a weak one as it easily fits into any coat pocket and is smaller than some android phones Ive owned. I have used it daily for weeks now.
Again, I can play every Play game out there, so I feel like I my gaming experience just got way better. I also got a laugh of you calling it a novelty that wont catch on, thats what they said about the Play too.
Anyways, just a few thoughts, no offense meant my friend.
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ILikeTheWayYouMove2 said:
IMO ps3 pad with gameklip is the best setup maybe not so portable but for actually gaming its better than the xperia play
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Agreed, ever since the MOGA got ps3 controller capability, I was in heaven.

LegionTHEFecalExcretion said:
Not to be a **** or anything, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you on that one. The MOGA in my opinion is starting to gain a ton of support from developers and the hardware itself works very well. When you couple this with the MOGA universal IME app, it gains all the capabilities of the ps3 controller. I love my Play, but I will take my GSIII and MOGA over the Play when playing Dead Trigger any day.
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I actually got my father a MOGA to go along with the EVO 3D I got him... and I'd actually even agree that it's support is far above and beyond the rest of those BT controllers... and I hope to see it get even more support because I'll likely get one for myself come January when my upgrade is available... but at the time being, not even the universal IME app brings it anywhere near being even a fourth of what the Xperia Play is.
From personal experience, I can vouch for the statement that it does greatly expand what it can be done outside of the pivot app, but it doesn't have all the specialized support Xperia Play has from having hardware menu navigation and all the precision of games tweaked to work especially with it's hardware, which results in cases like a *generic-converted* Eternal Legacy requiring an incredibly awkward form of still having to mostly use the touch-screen. While I didn't particularly find it as uncomfortable as poo-tang, the clip didn't really seem like it was designed to accomodate any kind of phone that has decent protection... meaning that my father was put in an awkward position where he'd either lose the convenience of his MOGA clip, or lose the protection of his EVO's ballistic case... this is particularly frustrating because I can use all the high-end protection that I want without sacrificing. Then the actual pivot app itself and the games involved don't seem entirely foolproof without all the tweaking options Xperia Play's given... NOVA 3, for example, has more natural feeling aiming... and all that aside, it's missing a major method of locomotion control by lacking that d-pad (which is a huge deal for precise input in 2D games). On a lesser note, I was quite shocked to find that it uses AAA batteries as opposed to having a rechargeable lithium like iControlPad does.
I do like the MOGA a lot more than other solutions because - honestly - even with all the minuses, there's still no other option on the market that allows well-done controls outside of just emulating tons of old content. Any cheap piece of plastic can emulate nowadays but the Xperia Play brought something truly special where we could play present-gen games like Wild Blood with physical controls, and the MOGA's actually picking up a lot of support for that audience with striking momentum. For that I give the MOGA credit above the iControlPad, Gametel, 60Beat, Red Samurai, Nyko Playpad and all others... but it's got a looooooong way to go before it's up there with Xperia Play... and with the ever-lasting hardware limitation (plus the burden of pairing per every game session), it may not even be possible that the MOGA can ever be up there with Xperia Play.

I will definitely agree that the lack of a true dpad is a disadvantage. There is a larger edition coming out later that has one built in, but its bigger which is both good and bad, but at least theres a choice I guess.
One thing that has actually made it not bad at all for me is the analog stick is very sensitive so as soon as there is any movement at all to either the left or right axis it registers immediately, something Metal Slug on my phone can attest to. I am not just saying this, platformers have not been an issue at all. What kind of case does your father use? I am using the shell/holster combo case and have not had it have problems.
I have never been a fan of shooters on the play, touch pad was always a frustrating experience at best and a nightmare at worse, at least for fps's. Twin Stick shooter kick ass on the play.
You mention a "everlasting hardware limitation" could you elaborate? Wouldn't the same apply to any game console, even the play? In other words, you can't upgrade hardware with an ota, which I know you know Im just illustrating my point.
Pushing the power button and then opening the pivot/universal ime app is a bit less seamless than sliding out the gamepad but I don't think it takes away from the experience. I have the whole process down to about 5 seconds before I pick my game.

[Q] Ouya or MK908 for HTPC Use ?

Hello,
Since a few weeks I am wondering about what device could I possibly use to play my videos on TV. Basically, they would be videos from ny NAS, with XBMC. Ouya seems like the perfect candidate for it, as it supports XBMC very well and the feedbacks are really good.
But, it is actually 99$. Thought it would be 90$. Well, it's still 10$ more. So as I was ready to order it today, I saw that I can have a MK908 for something like 75 euros.
So XBMX only, maybe install utorrent on it too, so I could sell my Nas and plug a external HDD on the Ouya/MK908: It would became my main media center/download station
What would be the best choice for me ? Thanks

alexagna said:
Hello,
Since a few weeks I am wondering about what device could I possibly use to play my videos on TV. Basically, they would be videos from ny NAS, with XBMC. Ouya seems like the perfect candidate for it, as it supports XBMC very well and the feedbacks are really good.
But, it is actually 99$. Thought it would be 90$. Well, it's still 10$ more. So as I was ready to order it today, I saw that I can have a MK908 for something like 75 euros.
So XBMX only, maybe install utorrent on it too, so I could sell my Nas and plug a external HDD on the Ouya/MK908: It would became my main media center/download station
What would be the best choice for me ? Thanks
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Probably the MK908 or Tronsmart T428. The RK3188 is a lot more powerful than Tegra 3.

Yes I saw that, but the Ouya is actually supported by the XBMC team, where the usb sticks aren't. So this is why I am wondering if the thing would be stable or not, if it could handle 1080p mkv files from ethernet, etc

I have an ouya and its really grown on me, xbmc is very snappy. and it has a native controller and ethernet (too many things can go wrong streaming 1080p over wifi in my experience). So when you think about it thats actually a better deal than those other products.And like the other poster mentioned its an official sponsor for xbmc so you know the native development will be there.

tennisbgc said:
I have an ouya and its really grown on me, xbmc is very snappy. and it has a native controller and ethernet (too many things can go wrong streaming 1080p over wifi in my experience). So when you think about it thats actually a better deal than those other products.And like the other poster mentioned its an official sponsor for xbmc so you know the native development will be there.
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Yeah, the thing that makes the Ouya a bit better for me is the ethernet connection. That and it seems like it would have less heat issues. But the heat issue is kind of a guess on my part. Oh, and Tegra 3 (with associated graphics) is quite a big better than Tegra 2 or the dual core chips. Not so much from the extra cores but the graphics chip improvements.
Then again, it's nice to get pure Android, which Ouya is not (yet).

Well I don't care about pure android, I know that within days or weeks the first stock roms will come for Ouya..
And, yes, the ethernet port is quite important for me as long as I use my NAS(which I'd like to sell to use only the Ouya and an external HDD), but a USB>ethernet adapter is something like 5$ on dealextreme so this is not what'll make a big difference between the two.
Quad core is tecnically better, but tegra 3 is better for everything video-related, is that it ? And yeah , Ouya is bigger then those sticks so no heat problem. If I want it to be on 24/7, that'd be an issue on the usb sticks I think ..

alexagna said:
Quad core is tecnically better, but tegra 3 is better for everything video-related, is that it ? And yeah , Ouya is bigger then those sticks so no heat problem. If I want it to be on 24/7, that'd be an issue on the usb sticks I think ..
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They're both quad core. The Tegra isn't actually better at anything as the RK3188 has a pretty much identical cpu - quad core ARM Cortex A9 and has a Mali 400MP4 gpu which is much faster than the Geforce ULP in the Tegra.
The OUYA does have a big advantage in that it has a fan on it so it'll be more stable. With a stick you could improvise using something like a usb fan but it wouldn't look so pretty.
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I have a MK808 which runs pretty fast and I love it. The PROBLEM is controller support. EVEN if you get more then 1 controller connected, they all read as the same controller. You also have very make-shift support. My Android Stick is AWESOME for $50 but it just doesn't do multiplayer support, which sucks. Even getting a gamepad setup is a pain. Typically requires a custom firmware to include the pad.xo module.
So it depends on what you want to do with the unit. If it is just for watching/streaming video content, whichever is faster. I've had absolutely no issues with gaming on my MK808 dualcore and it handles PSx and N64 games almost flawlessly. The only drag is, again, the multi-controller support and the stock Android user interface can be a pain unless you have a USB Airmouse. OUYA is designed to be controlled via the controller.

Yes, it'd be for the sole use of XBMC- maybe some emulators or download apps but it would not be the main use. Multiplayer support is not needed as I don't intend to use more than 1 controller(I am not even sure whether I'll use the Ouya one or not, except to play emulators but again it is not the main use)

I ordered an MK808 many moons ago for HTPC. But I could never get it to work right, it stopped working altogether with a particular TV (the one I needed it most). Plus, I had to buy a USB-ethernet jack because streaming was weak. Obviously, that's the old model, but you get my drift.
With that in mind, the sticks are decent for video playback. But for native XBMC support and less tinkering, I'd just pay the extra cash for the Ouya. If you don't plan on using the controller, you can probably get around $20-$30 for it on Ebay - haven't looked. Since they're $50 new, I'd imagine you'd get at least 50%. Ouya on Amazon no tax = $99/shipped - $25 for controller = $75 total shipped.
They should expand their platform, I know they really want to be a console but the fact remains *a lot* of people are buying these as Android TV boxes. The other TV boxes run their own platforms. This one allows people to use android apps. Market another SKU that is $79.99 without a controller and comes with a basic remote. Plus, we can just use our Xbox controllers.

You definitely get what you pay for. The Android Sticks are wonderful and powerful enough to do what you want but they are finicky. The MK808 had WiFi issues with the antenna. I had to add an external antenna to get 4 out of 5 bars with it sitting right on top of my router. You also have to find a Android Stick whose chipset is officially supported by XBMC if that is something you want to to.
I believe the MK808 has official hardware-accelerated playback now using XBMC. The Android Sticks are usually much cheaper also, typically around $50.
I am pretty excited about the Ouya but at this time, I can't see paying another $100 to essentially achieve multiple controller support. The MK808 already does everything I need it to aside from allowing multiplayers, which is not only hardware restrictive, but most emulators don't support multiple players either.
I do like how the Ouya's Interface is designed around a controller input though, so it would make it much more enjoyable to use. The Gyro Mouse/Keyboards work well but can be annoying after prolonged use.

I have the MK808, the MK908 stick look exactly the same, base on my experience there is a good chance you might get very poor WiFi performance and need the router very near it. What I found with these devices is the graphical performance somehow isn't optimized so 3D gaming doesn't seem to be as good comparing to the cellphone counterpart with the same hardware. Maybe its better to get the box type with more dedicated ports.
Playing HD videos as long as you can get hardware support and you have a good GPU it can suffice. The Tegra 3 running the hardware accelerated test build of XBMC can handle all the HD contents.

Agreed. The Sticks are great toys but support is scattered. The Ouyas backing hopefully will yield greater support. Eventually the Ouya will see unique development outside standard Android apps. Hopefully it will blossom.
I'm already seeing lots of neat apps and features similar to Nvidia Shield with remote PC play and great regards in terms of performance.
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The MK808 already does everything I need it to aside from allowing multiplayers, which is not only hardware restrictive, but most emulators don't support multiple players either.
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Almost every emulator supports multiple controllers
On subject: from what I have read the MK908 is having some issues playing 1080p smoothly. Something to do with poor drivers from the manufacturer. Its effecting every newer stick running that processor.
The Ouya has handled all 720p fine but 1080p stutters a slight bit. I was watching Gangster Squad last night and its an MP4 coming in at 4gb. It played smooth I'd say for bout 90% of the movie and had some stutters on and off but nothing below like a 5fps drop as measured by XBMC.
In the long run the MK908 and Ouya (anyone else think its hilarious Ouya autocorrects to Libya Lol) both cost $100 and while the Mk908 is more powerful the Ouya will see far more developer support, plus it plays great games. I just wish it supported IR out of the box
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Almost every emulator supports multiple controllers
On subject: from what I have read the MK908 is having some issues playing 1080p smoothly. Something to do with poor drivers from the manufacturer. Its effecting every newer stick running that processor.
The Ouya has handled all 720p fine but 1080p stutters a slight bit. I was watching Gangster Squad last night and its an MP4 coming in at 4gb. It played smooth I'd say for bout 90% of the movie and had some stutters on and off but nothing below like a 5fps drop as measured by XBMC.
In the long run the MK908 and Ouya (anyone else think its hilarious Ouya autocorrects to Libya Lol) both cost $100 and while the Mk908 is more powerful the Ouya will see far more developer support, plus it plays great games. I just wish it supported IR out of the box
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I'm sure the majority of the emulators do, but most hardware can't decipher between controller 1 or controller 2 outside a simple setup such as WiiMotes. I've never been able to connect more than 1 dual analog joystick and play properly.
Someone said it best: [paraphrasing] "The Ouya's biggest hand over all others is simply, Multiplayer."

I own both
I own both. Ouya wins hands down. This is based on device build quality and support community. Getting RK3188 sticks just to work properly doing the most basic things can be a real crap shoot.
Though the MK908 has better specs on paper very rarely do these media sticks run full out. Probably due to heat issues.
Currently my MK908 has a major heat problem. So hot i cant even touch it. Just watching Netflix will overheat the stick so it crashes. It got so bad that my power supply melted. I wasn't even over clocking or using a performance profile.
I only bought the Mk908 because the Ouya took so long to ship.
Hope this helps.
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I figured I'd post back, incase you're still wondering about this. I got my Ouya setup for it to be a TV box. Running the CM Experimental build located in the development section has yielded excellent results. Spotify works, Dish Anywhere works perfectly (allows me to stream/watch-live-tv without buying another "Joey" and paying the lease fee). Very stable, very fast.
My Xbox360 USB controller works fine with it, so I sold the Ouya controller. Got $49/shipped for it (*shrug*).
For this to be a good media player, you might want to invest in:
- Powered USB Hub (only has one port), so you can run a mouse + controller / etc.
If you want music without having a TV on (if you don't have a receiver with HDMI), you can get a USB audio chip. They're $8 - apparently the Syba SD-CM-UAUD works with Android. Since this doesn't have an audio out port.

Razer Forge TV - Everything Mojo should have been

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-forge-tv
I, Like most of you are probably watchign coverage of CES 2015 and have stumbled across a new Android Powered Device called the Razer Forege TV that sounds very simliar to what the Madcatz Promised with the Mojo. Unlike what the Mojo was i strongely think the Forge TV will deliver.
$99 for the Device
$80 for the Controller
$150 for Device and Controller
$40 for Software to Run Computer games on Forge TV
$120 for Keyboard and Mouse
If this device didnt have google cast and android tv i wouldnt even consider purchasing especially after my experience with the Mojo from Madcatz (another gaming hardware company).

totally agree
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http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-forge-tv
I, Like most of you are probably watchign coverage of CES 2015 and have stumbled across a new Android Powered Device called the Razer Forege TV that sounds very simliar to what the Madcatz Promised with the Mojo. Unlike what the Mojo was i strongely think the Forge TV will deliver.
$99 for the Device
$80 for the Controller
$150 for Device and Controller
$40 for Software to Run Computer games on Forge TV
$120 for Keyboard and Mouse
If this device didnt have google cast and android tv i wouldnt even consider purchasing especially after my experience with the Mojo from Madcatz (another gaming hardware company).
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totally agree with you man , i will buy this item later maybe later this year :good:

interesting, why get that if you have a mojo (edit you can install lollypop now), it's not a step up soc wise... just get a shield tablet!
The controllers look very inspired by CTRLR, ie the phone clip.
Nothing like MC's latest controller!
http://store.madcatz.com/Mad-Catz-L...oller-for-Android-Smartphones-Tablets-PC.html
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interesting, why get that if you have a mojo (edit you can install lollypop now), it's not a step up soc wise... just get a shield tablet!
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lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)

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lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)
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I have not been able to work on it as I am busy with school. I believe in the next android release 5.0.3 we will see more android tv devices and I will be able to properly get the Google apps since the adt-1 is outdated I need an arm device with android tv and the nexus player is x86. With the razer being released I can get a dump of it and pull the apps I need. The only thing that didn't work for me was the playstore after it updated. Cast receiver does work I may boot it up today and mess with it since I have the adt-1 too.

If we could get something running similar to this on the mojo I'd be a happy happy boy... That being said, with the current custom ROM it's basically all I need bar a few minor tweaks anyways

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lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)
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im a bit confused, where does one get a working android cast apk that works with the mojo?

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im a bit confused, where does one get a working android cast apk that works with the mojo?
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If you mean a cast receiver app so the mojo can act as a chromecast , afaik you can't.
The official app for this is called 'Google Cast Receiver' it's available on the Play Store here but it's not installed on the mojo.
The source code was release by Google too here: https://code.google.com/p/android-cast-mirrored-source/
Some people tried and managed to get the app working here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/chromecast/app-cast-receiver-app-android-t2900726. i tried the 'signed' version on the mojo, it's not working. I then tried the system-install version, the process is running and the mojo is seen as google cast device...but when casting it only displays a big red X (or a version mismatch error for Netflix). According to the topic, this app uses complex DRM security to protect some contents (Netflix for instance) and without the proper certificates (and so official hardware) it doesn't work anymore.

This should be awesome if they do it right? I am kinda bummed its Quailcomm and not NVidia surprised coming from a gaming company they would choose a processor that isn't known for its gaming ability?
Also there is Snail Games OBox coming which is NVidia . Can be upgraded anytime by changing module!

Forge TV
The Razor Forge TV is nothing special. It's just like the MOJO just running android TV. 16gb onboard storage is a joke, and the system will still not be able to run every game. I see no interest in the Razor Forge TV, and I have a hard time understanding why it won the best of CES. It's seriously nothing to be so happy about. I just think this box is a total failure, and has brought nothing special to the living room.

disorder78 said:
The Razor Forge TV is nothing special. It's just like the MOJO just running android TV. 16gb onboard storage is a joke, and the system will still not be able to run every game. I see no interest in the Razor Forge TV, and I have a hard time understanding why it won the best of CES. It's seriously nothing to be so happy about. I just think this box is a total failure, and has brought nothing special to the living room.
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It's because it's the first android TV box officially announced. The mojo in my opinion is better. Two USB ports micro sdcard and we also have Android TV port near fully functional. The setback for me is Google has yet to support external storage devices in android TV.
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It's because it's the first android TV box officially announced. The mojo in my opinion is better. Two USB ports micro sdcard and we also have Android TV port near fully functional. The setback for me is Google has yet to support external storage devices in android TV.
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The mojo was $250 with a controller (and a mandatory controller so if you already have BT controllers it was a waste).
ForgeTV will be $150 with a controller (optional controller so only $100 if you already have BT controllers).
The SN 805 beats the Tegra 4 everywhere: http://www.androidauthority.com/tegra-k1-exynos-5433-snap-805-541582
Same RAM and internal storage.
One the 2 USB ports of the Mojo is for the controller dongle. So practically 1 usb port each.
ForgeTV ethernet port is 1Gbps, Mojo port is 100Mbps.
16Go is enough because you can have as many as you want of external storage with an USB OTG storage (sd/stick,sdd, hd,etc).
According to the a XDA Nexus Player forum topic that external storage can also be used for apps (using some mounting apps).
I fail to see where the mojo is better. really. even more that Mad Catz practically abandoned it.
and so far "Android TV port near fully functional" is a one man job (you) and not guaranteed.

kgersen said:
The mojo was $250 with a controller (and a mandatory controller so if you already have BT controllers it was a waste).
ForgeTV will be $150 with a controller (optional controller so only $100 if you already have BT controllers).
The SN 805 beats the Tegra 4 everywhere: http://www.androidauthority.com/tegra-k1-exynos-5433-snap-805-541582
Same RAM and internal storage.
One the 2 USB ports of the Mojo is for the controller dongle. So practically 1 usb port each.
ForgeTV ethernet port is 1Gbps, Mojo port is 100Mbps.
16Go is enough because you can have as many as you want of external storage with an USB OTG storage (sd/stick,sdd, hd,etc).
According to the a XDA Nexus Player forum topic that external storage can also be used for apps (using some mounting apps).
I fail to see where the mojo is better. really. even more that Mad Catz practically abandoned it.
and so far "Android TV port near fully functional" is a one man job (you) and not guaranteed.
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We will just have to wait and see about that. Have a little surprise tomorrow.
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You big tease lol

Having been at CES and having got hands on time on the Forge TV here is my take. I think that Razer should have added a second USB port and SD storage. In my opinion these 2 things will be a disadvantage. They did, however, bring some welcome improvements over the MOJO in the full Gigabit Ethernet and the entire UI. There is no doubt that the Forge TV is much more a consumer friendly product. However, from what I could tell from talking to folks at CES this is not going to be able to be easily rooted nor allow custom backup options. I could be wrong and just talked to the wrong folks (this was my first CES). The 2 areas that I thought the Forge really out did the MOJO was in it's ability to Stream almost any game from almost any PC (not just those running NVidea) to the forge. I tried a couple of high end games and they ran flawlessly. This will be huge because you will no longer need to really on 3rd party apps and subscription services such as OnLive to do this.
I was not impressed with the Serval. To me it was just another controller and at an $80 price point found it to be extremely over priced. I also have come to truly appreciate the media buttons on the CONTRLr and find the lack of them on the Serval to be disappointing. This is after all going to function as a remote as well as a controller.
The Turret was just the opposite. I was blown away by it. This is the first laptop keyboard I have used that feels good. It really feels and responds like a gaming keyboard. The mouse having a low level of magnetism so it stays where it is when you let go is fantastic. Only downside I had is that I have large hands and the mouse was on the small side. Along those same lines though, the key spacing was just enough that I did not feel cramped when typing.
In the end will I be buying any of these? I will most definitely be purchasing the Turret. Most likely a couple of them. I will also most likely be picking up a Forge TV down the road as well. As for the Serval, unless Razer rethinks the price point or I can get it at a Black Friday level discount I will be passing on this. It just does not bring anything to the table that any other Bluetooth controller doesn't and at half the price or less.

Unjustified Dev said:
We will just have to wait and see about that. Have a little surprise tomorrow.
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Did I miss the surprise?

I'm keen to see what MINIX are about to release for their control pad. I'm getting pics in a few days as well as a test unit soon.
From what they've told me it is supposed to make touch games playable so I keep thinking of a PS4 controller type of thing

Sir Jaxxy said:
Did I miss the surprise?
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Follow the development forum.

gwaldo said:
Follow the development forum.
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Yeah I just got caught up over there.

Sir Jaxxy said:
The 2 areas that I thought the Forge really out did the MOJO was in it's ability to Stream almost any game from almost any PC (not just those running NVidea) to the forge. I tried a couple of high end games and they ran flawlessly. This will be huge because you will no longer need to really on 3rd party apps and subscription services such as OnLive to do this.
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According to Razer web site (http://www.razerzone.com/cortex/stream), the streaming feature isn't specific to the Forge and will work on any Android 5.0 device.
The end game for Razer with the Forge is more to sell the accessories (Serval and Turret) than the console itself. That is where the high margins are. Peripherals are still their core business after all.

Xperia Z4 Tablet Remote Play + GCM10 mount = Fantastic!

Hey guys, just want to first say hi am a new registered user have always been impressed with how helpful this community is
Anyway, seeing the tablet is still fairly new and no threads have been created so far I just want to talk a little bit about my awesome experience with the remote play functionality of the Xperia Z4 tablet. I've had my tablet for a few weeks now bought mine from Yatango as soon as it came out (black standalone no keyboard). I bought mine mainly because I wanted to try an android tablet for once other than Ipads and plus I am a Sony fan with many of their items such as Bravia TV, HMZ T3W, Xperia phone series etc so this tablet was naturally the choice.
WIFI Remote play function was the the first thing I tested out as soon as I unboxed my tablet ( in fact was first thing I tried too with Xperia Z3 phone lol). Registering the device onto my PS4 was a breeze and mounting it onto the new GCM10 mount was just as easy. As soon as I power up the remote play app and connect it to my PS4 I was immediately impressed! The GCM10 mount was supposedly designed fo the Xperia Z3 series but because the Xperia Z4 tablet is so lightweight it doesn't fall back or off and still very comfortable to hold the controller. Display quality was fantastic, maybe just a little washed out because it's game streaming but that's only if you're being really picky. My home internet is extremely slow so I use my mobile phone 4G tethering as a hotspot for my ps4 and Xperia Z4 tablet to connect together while my controller is connected to the console rather than tablet to prevent lag bluetooth interference.
Anyway to sum up how well this worked I have finished the game named Bloodborne (Difficulty: NG++++) and am ploughing through Chalice dungeons without any problems. I was also able to play games such as Drive Club, Dark Souls 2, GTA5, Journey, Final Fantasy Realm Reborn, FFX and J-Star Victory Versus no problems. Now like I said though because my ps4 is only wirelessly connected to hotspot so the performance is not exactly optimal, my remote play setting streaming video quality is set to high but the frame rate quality I could only set to standard otherwise there will be noticeable lag. I'm sure somebody with ethernet connected console with great internet at home will certainly have no problems whatsoever setting everything to high.
Other than remote play, everything is good and I'm very happy with the purchase. I have just bought a keyboard seperately and because I'm not exactly a big man only 175cm in height so it's quite comfortable for me to use even for a long period. I've been playing around with Microsoft Office, Office Suite, editting PDFs etc and can fully see myself using this for University. One thing I do wish the tablet had was multi window tasking (small apps are good but not enough) similar to Samsung's, but I've heard rumours future android updates may bring such a function so am looking forward to it.
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EDIT: I'm aware some people may experience some troubles (most notably input lags with controller) when remote playing, hence I have included in the following some simple solutions (which worked for myself) that may improve the functionality . I claim no credit for these solutions as I also only found them on other forums:
I can't connect the DS4 controller to the Tablet via USB OTG cable.
try going to Settings => XPERIA Connectivity => USB Connectivity => Detect USB Device; it should now detect your connected USB devices. See how that goes. From what i gather the tablet is designed such a way not to auto connect possibly due to the waterproofing feature.
There are input lags due to the Bluetooth Interference.
This is a good method if you're playing at a close distance to your PS4. Create a New User with a new PSN account (i.ee. sign up to PSN with a new email), then register your XPERIA Z4 Tablet with this new account. The reason being for doing this is because it can bypass having to connect your controller to the tablet which as a result may cause input lag due to Bluetooth connectivity. Essentially what you've done here is your controller is still connected to the PS4 while you are remote playing. All you have to do is just hit the PS button on the controller and change back to your main account. By the way this is the method that I use since the PS4 is always close to me when i play. Now if you're at a distance then another solution may be available:
Have your controller connected to the XPERIA Z4 Tablet, download "Bluetooth Auto Connect" from UniqTec on Play store. Leave everything default, but while your connection to the Controller is active open Bluetooth Auto Connect - Hit "Connect Now" in the Advanced Options Submenu - And now the Lags should disappear. I found this on a forum quite a while back; sounds crazy and no idea which genius figured it out lol. Just a warning though I haven't tried this method yet so no idea if it really works.
Thanks for reading guys hope you find this helpful, :good:
Gary

Great news. I was thinking on buying the GCM10.
It is comfortable in long play seasons?
Can you post any photo of it with the tablet attached?
Thanks!
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Long season is comfortable
tonino zgz said:
Great news. I was thinking on buying the GCM10.
It is comfortable in long play seasons?
Can you post any photo of it with the tablet attached?
Thanks!
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Hey man! Uploaded some pictures for you on the post to demonstrate the sturdiness of the mount. It doesn't fall back due to the weight nor will it ever fall off with the surprisingly strong suction - It's definitely legit :good:
And to answer your comfortability question, I would say Yes. Comfortability in long season play does depend what you personally consider as "long season" and I would imagine everybody have different level of tolerance. For me the longest session so far I've played with the tablet mounted is approximate 5 hour straight with friends in an action RPG Bloodborne which requires a lot of moving around slashing enemies (like a hack and slash). Most of the pressure obviously would be around the pinky and ring fingers of course depending on the size of your hands and adjusting the mount just at the right angle to find the correct ergonomic position also helps. Admittingly after 5-6 hours long play your hands and forearm will feel a little tired but in no way will it give you a complete dead arm or hand. Plus the more you play the more you're use to it.

Thanks for the pictures!
5 hours it's a pretty long season for me, so no problem.
The mark on the back is permanent or can be cleaned?
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tonino zgz said:
Thanks for the pictures!
5 hours it's a pretty long season for me, so no problem.
The mark on the back is permanent or can be cleaned?
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I hope it's not permanant but I can't be sure. I'm pretty sure it can be cleaned but I don't know how to... to be honest the matte back is pretty hard to clean, It's not just this circular mark even finger print stain I can't get rid of. I've even tried using tissue dipped with alcohol to try cleaning it but still unsuccessful the mark is still there (though it did improve). The material of the GCM10 mount suction attached to the tablet is made of plastic, it is sticky when you first unbox taking off the protective layer but I doubt it's something that can damage the matte layer. I hope somebody will find a good solution to clean the back of the tablet in near future.

GarySan said:
I hope it's not permanant but I can't be sure. I'm pretty sure it can be cleaned but I don't know how to... to be honest the matte back is pretty hard to clean, It's not just this circular mark even finger print stain I can't get rid of. I've even tried using tissue dipped with alcohol to try cleaning it but still unsuccessful the mark is still there (though it did improve). The material of the GCM10 mount suction attached to the tablet is made of plastic, it is sticky when you first unbox taking off the protective layer but I doubt it's something that can damage the matte layer. I hope somebody will find a good solution to clean the back of the tablet in near future.
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It would be nice to see a video of image/stream quality while remote playing.

eeeasy said:
It would be nice to see a video of image/stream quality while remote playing.
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I thought about it but I couldn't really figure out how to film myself while playing on the tablet since I only have a mobile phone with no accessory to attach onto my head. Quite a few good videos does lie around on YouTube for example like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr8OxKF_59I
I know this is only an Xperia Z2 tablet but trust me judging by his latency it's pretty much 1 to 1 with no lag so I can say for sure his internet is better than mine. Since the Xperia Z2 can do so well there should be no reason why the Xperia Z4 can't. Remember also that this is pre 2.50 patch so high quality resolution and high quality frame rate setting in the remote play app is not yet available.

Hello Garysan,
I've just bought the xperia z4 tablet, and i found it great too.
I have a question for you, can the dualshock 4 controller can be use with Android games as well? (coupled with the GCM10 mount also of course)
I don't have a ps4 but i think it could be more comfortable to play android games with the dualshock controller ( like FF IV or other RPG Games for instance) but I want to be sure before buying the whole package.
Thanks in advance to test is for me .

You can use DS4 with Xperia devices over BT as long as the android game supports it. Check at the game's feature list.
Clem2109 said:
Hello Garysan,
I've just bought the xperia z4 tablet, and i found it great too.
I have a question for you, can the dualshock 4 controller can be use with Android games as well? (coupled with the GCM10 mount also of course)
I don't have a ps4 but i think it could be more comfortable to play android games with the dualshock controller ( like FF IV or other RPG Games for instance) but I want to be sure before buying the whole package.
Thanks in advance to test is for me .
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Clem2109 said:
Hello Garysan,
I've just bought the xperia z4 tablet, and i found it great too.
I have a question for you, can the dualshock 4 controller can be use with Android games as well? (coupled with the GCM10 mount also of course)
I don't have a ps4 but i think it could be more comfortable to play android games with the dualshock controller ( like FF IV or other RPG Games for instance) but I want to be sure before buying the whole package.
Thanks in advance to test is for me .
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Hey Clem,
Though I've never used the DS4 for any mobile games before but i have seen my friend do so it is possible. There are 2 possible method from what I know;
First method is th simple method, which is what eeeasy have said if the android game/app itself is designed to support Bluetooth controller it should work. It should be a listed feature on the description but if you're not sure you can always contact the developers.
Now however if you want ALL games to work with controller, then what you would need is a key mapper app, which requires rooting and is also what my friend do on his Galaxy. The apk that he used is called Tincore and you can find it on the play store, but once again you need to root the XPERIA Z4 tablet first.
I will probably be interested in this at some point, since i can see more and more games utilising controller support with the release of new Apple TV.
Finally if you have some spare cash I would definitely suggest getting a PS4 later down the track because next year the console is going to be exploding with new games, especially if you're into Japanese RPGs etc. Well worth the investment.
Thanks,
Gary

I use this set up with rooted moonlight app to stream my PC games... Amazing setup!
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ramontomzer said:
I use this set up with rooted moonlight app to stream my PC games... Amazing setup!
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Hey Ramon,
I that's awesome to know! I'm interested in what method you use to connect the DS4 to the tablet when you use moonlight streaming. Do you use the OTG USE cable or just via Bluetooth to tablet? Reason I'm asking is I heard there may be interference if you use BT to connect the DS4 straight to the tablet. Is that true?
Thanks,
Gary

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You can use DS4 with Xperia devices over BT as long as the android game supports it. Check at the game's feature list.
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Alright, do you know by chance a website who refer some of theses game maybe?
GarySan said:
Hey Clem,
Though I've never used the DS4 for any mobile games before but i have seen my friend do so it is possible. There are 2 possible method from what I know;
First method is th simple method, which is what eeeasy have said if the android game/app itself is designed to support Bluetooth controller it should work. It should be a listed feature on the description but if you're not sure you can always contact the developers.
Now however if you want ALL games to work with controller, then what you would need is a key mapper app, which requires rooting and is also what my friend do on his Galaxy. The apk that he used is called Tincore and you can find it on the play store, but once again you need to root the XPERIA Z4 tablet first.
I will probably be interested in this at some point, since i can see more and more games utilising controller support with the release of new Apple TV.
Finally if you have some spare cash I would definitely suggest getting a PS4 later down the track because next year the console is going to be exploding with new games, especially if you're into Japanese RPGs etc. Well worth the investment.
Thanks,
Gary
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Thanks for your answer, effectively it's what I saw online, but I have an interrogation, the fact to root your tablette isn't without risk? Did it not delete the manufacturer warranty? Or impact the OS future updates? I have never rooted any of my devices yet so I don't know a lot about this.
And about PS4 i know it's a very good console but im more a PC gamer with a very good rig, anyway thanks for the advice!

Hey Gary, sorry for the late reply... The DS4 connects directly to the tablet. It's a Sony feature. It connects via Bluetooth (I believe).
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Anybody has checked to connect the Dualshock4 with a cable USB OTG to the Z4? because I try to connect my DS4 with my Usb otg cable -( this cable works with DS4 and Galaxy S4 and Lg G3) and don't works with the controller.
The curious is that this otg cable works if I connect a pendrive, mouse or keyboard to the Z4. But not the controller.
Can any test if can connect his DS4 to the Z4. I am beginning to think , that Sony block the DS4 via usb OTG cable, for operate only via Bluetooth with the xperia menu controller.
I want to connect via usb for not pair all the time with the ps4, and for the lag of bluetooth.
Sorry for my english. I am from Spain.

Hola Calibra3, saludos desde Zaragoza!!!
According to this answer from the xperia support forum, you can't use USB OTG to connect a dualshock 4. Only Bluetooth.
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...OTG-to-the-Z4-Tablet-WHY/m-p/1050095#U1050095
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How is the connection if you are playing many miles away from your PS4?

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How is the connection if you are playing many miles away from your PS4?
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Can anyone comment on my question?

does it connect directly to the Playstation 4 like the PS vita? Means while there is no internet connection but still the vita can connect to a ps4 wirelessly.