[Q] Phone stuck in bootloop but stays on in download mode - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a i9505.
My phone is stuck in a boot loop. The phone keeps restarting after the samsung logo for normal startup and for recovery. So recovery is also not working.
However phone is working fine in download mode and stays on for as long as I want. So this means that my power button is not at fault.
I have tried the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477 But this has not fixed my problem and phone is still stcuk in boot loop.
Please help.
Thank you

farazk86 said:
I have a i9505.
My phone is stuck in a boot loop. The phone keeps restarting after the samsung logo for normal startup and for recovery. So recovery is also not working.
However phone is working fine in download mode and stays on for as long as I want. So this means that my power button is not at fault.
I have tried the guide here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2265477 But this has not fixed my problem and phone is still stcuk in boot loop.
Please help.
Thank you
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Try to flash the latest MD5.tar from here:https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/jflte/
After that your recovery should work fine. Flash it through odin3.09 selecting AP. If it don't work uncheck AutoReboot

Tkkg1994 said:
Try to flash the latest MD5.tar from here:https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/jflte/
After that your recovery should work fine. Flash it through odin3.09 selecting AP. If it don't work uncheck AutoReboot
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He/She says that its stuck in a boot loop for both a normal and recovery boot... I think they should flash the original Samsung S4 firmware, then the custom recovery to be safe.
Grab an original android image from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/ (matching your currently installed firmware/country), and flash it with ODIN as AP or PDA (depending on the version of ODIN you have), while the phone is in download mode. You may have to flash it twice in a row (I'm not sure why but it works for me).
Then you can flash a custom recovery and whatever rom you wish.

stuntsy99 said:
He/She says that its stuck in a boot loop for both a normal and recovery boot... I think they should flash the original Samsung S4 firmware, then the custom recovery to be safe.
Grab an original android image from http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/ (matching your currently installed firmware/country), and flash it with ODIN as AP or PDA (depending on the version of ODIN you have), while the phone is in download mode. You may have to flash it twice in a row (I'm not sure why but it works for me).
Then you can flash a custom recovery and whatever rom you wish.
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This is what I have been doing. I have flashed the firmware from samsung twice as well but no luck.
The recovery is not working either. Its just stuck in a boot loop

farazk86 said:
This is what I have been doing. I have flashed the firmware from samsung twice as well but no luck.
The recovery is not working either. Its just stuck in a boot loop
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That's why I said reinstall the recovery

Tkkg1994 said:
That's why I said reinstall the recovery
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I did. ANd it did not help. Its still stuck in boot loop

farazk86 said:
I did. ANd it did not help. Its still stuck in boot loop
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Hmm, that is weird...
I believe the only other thing to try is to flash in ODIN the partition layout (.pit) file as you might have corrupted it somehow... but I have never done this, so I can't give you any personal advice.
The .pit file is in that thread you linked, as the "I9505_pit file.zip" attachment. See Note 2 on what to do with it.
... Otherwise it sounds like its defective.

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[Q] Boot loop after rooting my Galaxy note 4 N910F

Hello everyone,
I tried rooting my Note 4 using Chainfire's [SM-N910*] CF-Auto-Root :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-auto-root-t2897428/post55865442#post55865442
However after Odin finishes and shows "pass", the phone does not reboot in recovery mode nor shows the red android, it loops on the samsung logo and written in the top left corner of the screen 3 lines reading :
Recovery booting ...
Recovery is not seandroid enforcing
Set warranty bit : recovery
I used the correct file for my phone, and now i cannot enter recovery mode, only download mode is accessible.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Flash stock firmware with odin and try again
The message is normal it comes up when you root your phone. Do you have a custom recovery installed?
sawdoctor said:
The message is normal it comes up when you root your phone. Do you have a custom recovery installed?F
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I didnt have custom recovery and it happened, i fixed my boot loop and i still want to root it but each time i try it goes back to the boot loop. My note 4 is SM-N910F
Alex_popa said:
I didnt have custom recovery and it happened, i fixed my boot loop and i still want to root it but each time i try it goes back to the boot loop. My note 4 is SM-N910F
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indentical same problem
SM-910F
4.4.4
N910FXXU1ANKA
help please
Probably should have mentioned my build number and what not too...
healthyboy said:
Hello everyone,
I tried rooting my Note 4 using Chainfire's [SM-N910*] CF-Auto-Root :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-auto-root-t2897428/post55865442#post55865442
However after Odin finishes and shows "pass", the phone does not reboot in recovery mode nor shows the red android, it loops on the samsung logo and written in the top left corner of the screen 3 lines reading :
Recovery booting ...
Recovery is not seandroid enforcing
Set warranty bit : recovery
I used the correct file for my phone, and now i cannot enter recovery mode, only download mode is accessible.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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nikboss77 said:
indentical same problem
SM-910F
4.4.4
N910FXXU1ANKA
help please
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I had a same problem but I found easy solution. If you have a bootloop install latest CWM recovery, open ODIN (I used newest version) and uncheck Auto Reboot, select CWM in AP and flash it, after that phone will stay still in Download mode. Then unplug usb from PC and remove battery for 5-7sec, give it back and turn phone on - your phone will boot into CWM recovery for sure ...then I flashed latest TWRP
bondro said:
I had a same problem but I found easy solution. If you have a bootloop install latest CWM recovery, open ODIN (I used newest version) and uncheck Auto Reboot, select CWM in AP and flash it, after that phone will stay still in Download mode. Then unplug usb from PC and remove battery for 5-7sec, give it back and turn phone on - your phone will boot into CWM recovery for sure ...then I flashed latest TWRP
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Thanks I wanted to ask you once I am in recovery with cwm as I install TWRP? Also from odin?
And how to proceed with CF-Auto-Root?
Sorry for my ignorance....
nikboss77 said:
Thanks I wanted to ask you once I am in recovery with cwm as I install TWRP? Also from odin?
And how to proceed with CF-Auto-Root?
Sorry for my ignorance....
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Download corespond file from cf auto root page , put your phone into download mode ( VOL - home button and lock screen button ) then select in odin AP file : CF-Auto-Root-trlte-trltexx-smn910f.tar.md5 , start , and wait a few seconds to boot ! Cheers
ManDone.vRs said:
Download corespond file from cf auto root page , put your phone into download mode ( VOL - home button and lock screen button ) then select in odin AP file : CF-Auto-Root-trlte-trltexx-smn910f.tar.md5 , start , and wait a few seconds to boot ! Cheers
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I know what to do, I have been doing this all along but it goes into a mad boot loop. The Red Android doesn't pop up on screen either. I thought for a second I bricked my phone when it happened but luckily I was able to restore it. Any other suggestions??
Alex_popa said:
I know what to do, I have been doing this all along but it goes into a mad boot loop. The Red Android doesn't pop up on screen either. I thought for a second I bricked my phone when it happened but luckily I was able to restore it. Any other suggestions??
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It is in fact ... I did the root samsung in many of my friends ... always the same procedure with odin. But this does not load Note4 just the red robot and immediately goes into loop.I do not understand where it can be the error or incompatibility
Plz Help
Sorry for posting on this forum but i cant find any help on the N910H forum. Hi am having the exact same problem phone cant boot to download mode and not recovery. i tried to odin back to stock same problem, i tried twrp, philz and cwm recovery. it says pass in Odin but the phone wont reboot past the android logo and cant boot to recovery.Model number is SM-N910H
Had the same issue, fixed it however flashing CF auto root always results in a boot loop.
Is there any other way of rooting the note 4 without Odin?
At this point I realized that more than anyone has this problem of our loop in doing root on your Notes 4, now in addition to figure out if there is a solution to this problem, I would like to know if this problem is present on the Notes 4 with the same model, firmware updates etc. etc .... or this Note 4 that we are "bad"?
I successfully rooted my note 4 SM-N910F using this method.
Search zedomax note 4 root. It should be the first result.
Sorry I wasn't able to link the video I was not allowed to submit an external link until I have 10 posts.
My phone did this weird thing where it erased twrp so straight after passing in odin I took out the battery and entered twrp. From there it was easy. Hope this helps anyone else with this problem
Alex_popa said:
Is there any other way of rooting the note 4 without Odin?
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You can flash a flashable SuperSU from chainfire's website using CWM or TWRP recovery.
But if you are on stock TW 5.1.1, you can't root it just yet, it will cause bootloop.
Flash stock 5.1.1 again to fix bootloop
i flashed again to the stock 5.1.1 and i still get stuck on Samsung Galaxy Logo i tried every thing wipe data and wipe cache and i remove battery for million time and i even rooted the phone and start but still freezing on galaxy logo and then Re download the latest Official Rom From sammobile and still Stuck on Galaxy logo the problem came to me when i install Twrp on my rooted note 4 and it's stucked on twrp so i downloaded the latest Rom and still get freeze on Galaxy Logo please help me :/
Same problem here. Flashed SM-N910F (International, Qualcomm): CF-Auto-Root-trlte-trltexx-smn910f.zip but stuck in bootloop, all i get is the threeuk logo and the music. Tried with auto reboot on and off but with no luck.
breeg said:
Same problem here. Flashed SM-N910F (International, Qualcomm): CF-Auto-Root-trlte-trltexx-smn910f.zip but stuck in bootloop, all i get is the threeuk logo and the music. Tried with auto reboot on and off but with no luck.
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If you're on 5.1.1 then you need a root capable kernel to be flashed too...

Galaxy s5 Sprint G900P - Soft bricked? Cycles on recovery mode, download mode works

Model: SM-G900P
I've tried every kind of rom flashing here, re-partitioning, recovery images, etc.
I really just want to get to the stock recovery mode with out the auto boot loop.
Please help.
What else do you need to know?
Try flashing TWRP 2.8.7.0 with ODIN, and boot into TWRP recovery
If you can get into TWRP, you have a very powerful recovery with a lot more options than stock, to try and get things working again before going back to 100% stock - if that's what you're aiming for
*Detection* said:
Try flashing TWRP 2.8.7.0 with ODIN, and boot into TWRP recovery
If you can get into TWRP, you have a very powerful recovery with a lot more options than stock, to try and get things working again before going back to 100% stock - if that's what you're aiming for
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The flash seem to work via ODIN. See image below.
But it is still stuck in a boot loop for normal booting or for recovery mode.
Am I using Odin incorrectly??
url to screenshot: pasteboard.co/1jlllhvK.png
xojgiiox said:
The flash seem to work via ODIN. See image below.
But it is still stuck in a boot loop for normal booting or for recovery mode.
Am I using Odin incorrectly??
url to screenshot: pasteboard.co/1jlllhvK.png
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A lot of newer S5s do the same thing (Except they usually boot back into stock recovery, but as yours isn't working, same thing)
Follow this guide (Using the correct version TWRP for your model S5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64961009&postcount=2
You can ignore steps that are not relevant to flashing TWRP, or follow them all for a rooted phone (Apart from reactivation lock as you can't boot yet)
*Detection* said:
A lot of newer S5s do the same thing (Except they usually boot back into stock recovery, but as yours isn't working, same thing)
Follow this guide (Using the correct version TWRP for your model S5)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64961009&postcount=2
You can ignore steps that are not relevant to flashing TWRP, or follow them all for a rooted phone (Apart from reactivation lock as you can't boot yet)
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I followed these steps:
"3) boot into download mode.
4) Odin flash TWRP 2.8.7.0 (specifically this version).
5) DO NOT allow phone to boot, (uncheck auto reboot in odin and if necessary remove the battery as soon as the TWRP flash has completed) then.....
6) boot directly into recovery. (Vol +, Power & Home button combination)"
Although, they were not very specific....
To flash with odin, I used the AP button and did not let it auto reboot. Removed battery immediately. tried to reboot in recovery and saw the same issue.
I think I need all files.
BL
AP
CP
CSC
and possibly to re-partition with a PIT file
You say in the first post you have already repartitioned?
PIT file is for repartitioning
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2799613&d=1402839135
Extract to .pit, add to PIT section in ODIN, add ROM to AP section, flash both together
You can try older versions of ODIN for TWRP to, some people have success with version starting 3.07 > 3.10.7
I was able to do the PIT and the TWRP at the same time.
Although, my phone said "SECURE CHECK FAIL : pit" on the screen, it seemed to do everything.
But upon reboot to try to get to Recovery (power, home, Vol+), it no longer waits and reboots/recycles. It fails with a message that says "Could not do normal boot." and send me to Download mode.....
If I try to boot normally, I still get the boot loop....
I just used the PIT file I used last time and it's back to where I was when I started this post.
Endless reboot cycle...
Maybe the bootloader needs to be flashed?
Ok. My issue with the failing pit (and any other failures from Odin) was a combination of using a bad version of Odin or a bad version of the tar or pit files.
I am able to flash the latest stock rom g900p OK4 just fine.
I can flash twrp just fine as well.
But the boot loop cycle still remains.
I believe I know exactly what I need here and it's the stock OK4 boot loader.
Here's an Odin flashable OK4 bootloader for the G900P. https://mega.nz/#!9ItUDZ7C
InsanePostman said:
Here's an Odin flashable OK4 bootloader for the G900P. https://mega.nz/#!9ItUDZ7C
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This link needs a decryption key
xojgiiox said:
This link needs a decryption key
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**** okay. I'll relink with key once i get to my computer
Here you go. https://mega.nz/#!9ItUDZ7C!MxiO87vn7KBiy4ZLtDFx-AoahYPftyf3985nOXenPig
Bootloader file was exactly what I was asking for. Thanks.
However, it did not solve the problem.
Boot loop cycle going on still after stock BL, Ap, PIT all flashed....
Any other suggestions ???? Please. From anyone?
I'm sorry to write in this old topic, but I want to know if you solved your problem, as I'm having the same trouble. Everytime I turn on the phone it stucks on bootloop, and after 5 to 10 cycles it starts. When trying to enter to Recovery it stucks on bootloop and never enters. I've tried with TWRP or Philz CWM but it just doesn't enter to recovery :'(

gt-i9505 stuck at bootloader-dead recovery?

Hi guys! I have an gt-i9505 that suddenly shuted down with a crash image (the image was blured ... Like old tv when the signal wasn't very good) and when i tried to turn on the phone it get stuck at "samsung galaxy s4 ..." and i can't access the recovery ... It sais "recovery booting...." but it stops at this point and stais like that forever
If i shut it down and put it on charge the batery shows up with a lightening mark in it but no animation or percent
Fortunatly download mode is available and i flashed a new custom recovery (cwm) the odin said everything was fine but still the recovery isn't accessable . tried also flashing a stock rom but same problem no accessable recovery and the phone is still stuck at s4 logo ...
Any help?
A stock ROM from sammobile.com is flashed in download mode, not recovery mode so it doesn't matter if the phone has no recovery installed.
audit13 said:
A stock ROM from sammobile.com is flashed in download mode, not recovery mode so it doesn't matter if the phone has no recovery installed.
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I know that but why it can't boot then? Ans what about recovery, Flaahing a stock rom gives you a stock recovery but the phone can't get into any recovery...
Can this be a hardware problem?
You flashed a stock ROM with pit?
audit13 said:
You flashed a stock ROM with pit?
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No, i don't know how to do it, a link with some installation tips and downloads would be more than thankfull
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I flashed cwm recovery again with odin and I got into recovery , wiped data and cache but when I restarted the phone it got stuck again at bootloader and now I can't access the recovery again.... I think that volume up and power buttons are broken somehow...
Flashed again the stock rom , same problem , nothing changed...
A few ideas would be great!
I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem. The phone doesn't simply shut down for no reason, unless some hardware part was failing.
Sounds like the same problem I have (https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/help/s4-boot-i9505-t3529543)
I would also be interested in how to install stock ROM with pit.

Samsung On7 Pro stuck on a boot loop even after reinstalling firmware.

I had recently purchased the Samsung Galaxy On7 Pro (SM-G600FY) (India) and it seemed to work fine for about 10 days. The device is not rooted and it suddenly went into a boot loop while I was using Spotify. The phone will not enter recovery mode and proceeds to boot infinitely when I try to use the key combination. However, the device was able to enter download mode and I used Odin to flash the stock firmware. Odin displayed successful results but the device continues to be stuck on a boot loop. Looking for any sort of solution at the moment. Thank you!
Aetomatis said:
I had recently purchased the Samsung Galaxy On7 Pro (SM-G600FY) (India) and it seemed to work fine for about 10 days. The device is not rooted and it suddenly went into a boot loop while I was using Spotify. The phone will not enter recovery mode and proceeds to boot infinitely when I try to use the key combination. However, the device was able to enter download mode and I used Odin to flash the stock firmware. Odin displayed successful results but the device continues to be stuck on a boot loop. Looking for any sort of solution at the moment. Thank you!
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Go to service centre
Aetomatis said:
I had recently purchased the Samsung Galaxy On7 Pro (SM-G600FY) (India) and it seemed to work fine for about 10 days. The device is not rooted and it suddenly went into a boot loop while I was using Spotify. The phone will not enter recovery mode and proceeds to boot infinitely when I try to use the key combination. However, the device was able to enter download mode and I used Odin to flash the stock firmware. Odin displayed successful results but the device continues to be stuck on a boot loop. Looking for any sort of solution at the moment. Thank you!
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Boot to stock recovery and factory reset and wipe cache partition then reboot and see if it still bootloops.
The next time you install an app and it causes a bootloop, all you have to do is boot the device into "safe mode", safe mode only boots the stock system apps and doesn't load the apps you've installed, then you can just go and uninstall the app that caused the bootloop like you would uninstall any other user app.
Sent from my SM-S903VL using Tapatalk
Droidriven said:
Boot to stock recovery and factory reset and wipe cache partition then reboot and see if it still bootloops.
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The device will not boot to stock recovery. When I use the key combination for stock recovery, it simply bootloops. I can only boot to download mode.
Aetomatis said:
The device will not boot to stock recovery. When I use the key combination for stock recovery, it simply bootloops. I can only boot to download mode.
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Flashing with Odin doesn't erase your user data unless what you flash contains an upgraded/downgraded bootloader. Your user data is still there. In other words, Spotify is still there causing the issue it caused to begin with, even after flashing stock.
Try what I said, try booting to "safe mode" and then just delete Spotify.
If that doesn't work, try flashing your stock firmware but this time, find a copy of the PIT for you model number and flash it along with the stock firmware. The PIT will erase all partitions(removing Spotify in the process) before flashing the firmware.
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Droidriven said:
Flashing with Odin doesn't erase your user data unless what you flash contains an upgraded/downgraded bootloader. Your user data is, still there. In other words, Spotify is still there causing the issue it caused to begin with, even after flashing stock.
Try what I said, try booting to "safe mode" and then just delete Spotify.
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I cannot put the phone into safe mode either. It's either Odin mode or bootloops. There is no more I can put the phone into.
Aetomatis said:
I cannot put the phone into safe mode either. It's either Odin mode or bootloops. There is no more I can put the phone into.
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I gave more info than just safe mode.
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Flash stock rom lolipop 5.1.1 it will work
Hey just flash Android 6.0.1 on your On7pro by Odin mode and it will work
Hey can u provide me link of official ROM of on7 pro
Rajzzz01 said:
Hey can u provide me link of official ROM of on7 pro
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Go to Sammobile .com Or samsung-updates .com and enter your model number
Or
Do a Google search for:
"Stock firmware for (your model number)"
If it's available, that should find it.
I DO NOT PROVIDE HELP IN PM, KEEP IT IN THE THREADS WHERE EVERYONE CAN SHARE

No boot-image

Hey
A few hours ago I flashed a boot-image (it was the S9+ black boot image) via TWRP on my SM-G928F. After that my phone does not boot in system or revovery anymore. I can only boot into download mode. I tried to flash a stock rom via Odin but that didn't helped.
I think I need a tar.md5 file of the stock boot-image which I can flash via Odin.
It would be very nice if anyone could help me with this.
Best regards
DGB
DGB100 said:
Hey
A few hours ago I flashed a boot-image (it was the S9+ black boot image) via TWRP on my SM-G928F. After that my phone does not boot in system or revovery anymore. I can only boot into download mode. I tried to flash a stock rom via Odin but that didn't helped.
I think I need a tar.md5 file of the stock boot-image which I can flash via Odin.
It would be very nice if anyone could help me with this.
Best regards
DGB
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You're on the right track. I think flashing the original stock firmware via Odin should fix the issue, but you said that didn't work...
Rehvix said:
You're on the right track. I think flashing the original stock firmware via Odin should fix the issue, but you said that didn't work...
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Yes, that's right... It didn't work because the stock firmware doesn't overwrite the boot logo. But is ist possible to integrate the stock boot logo into a custom rom which can be flashed via Odin?
DGB100 said:
Yes, that's right... It didn't work because the stock firmware doesn't overwrite the boot logo. But is ist possible to integrate the stock boot logo into a custom rom which can be flashed via Odin?
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If that's the issue, you need to flash the stock bootlogo via twrp. If you can't access TWRP though, it'll be kind of hard.
Rehvix said:
If that's the issue, you need to flash the stock bootlogo via twrp. If you can't access TWRP though, it'll be kind of hard.
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But is there any possibility to do this?
DGB100 said:
But is there any possibility to do this?
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Yes, but you need the flashable zip. I will upload it when I get to my computer.
DGB100 said:
But is there any possibility to do this?
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Flash this via TWRP and if the issue is the boot logo then you should be good to go
Rehvix said:
Flash this via TWRP and if the issue is the boot logo then you should be good to go
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I can't access TWRP, beacuase there is a never ending blackscreen. I can only boot into download mode. That's the problem! I to flashed stock firmware again, I flashed TWRP again. I tried adb sideload - nothing works.
I think there must be a possibility to flash stock boot logo in download mode... but idk how
When you say you say you flashed a boot image, do you mean the splash screen that shows up when you boot the phone up or a boot image that is used to determine what drivers/hardware the phone has when it loads up the OS?
kdogguk said:
When you say you say you flashed a boot image, do you mean the splash screen that shows up when you boot the phone up or a boot image that is used to determine what drivers/hardware the phone has when it loads up the OS?
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That splash screen that shows up when I boot the phone, so the "picture" on which is "Samsung Galaxy S6 edge + " shown.
DGB100 said:
That splash screen that shows up when I boot the phone, so the "picture" on which is "Samsung Galaxy S6 edge + " shown.
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Have you tried flashing TWRP again with Odin?
Maybe the boot image somehow corrupted the Recovery. I'm not sure how, but its worth a try. I had problems with TWRP before and had to flash it a number of times in the past cos it got corrupt somehow.
You can get the TWRP img file from TWRP web site to flash in odin.
DGB100 said:
That splash screen that shows up when I boot the phone, so the "picture" on which is "Samsung Galaxy S6 edge + " shown.
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If you flashed TWRP, try to go straight to it. Starting with the phone off, press the usual key combo for recovery. Keep pressing it even through the blackscreen. If all that's missing is the splash, it should still go into recovery after about 15 seconds.

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