will underclock provide realy more battery and reduce heat ? - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hy there,
im on latest sokp rom on my g2 (d802)
i want to get more juice from my battery, so I setup my core setings at 1036 mhz max and minimum 300 mhz.
wil this provide me a lot off battery in real life and will it also reduce heat ? even if i watch hd movie or play graphical games

In theory yes it should but not as much as you think cause it will be offset because it will have to keep a higher frequency for a higher period of time. Temperature should be reduced a lot but keep in mind games will lag if they need the extra power

drivenby said:
In theory yes it should but not as much as you think cause it will be offset because it will have to keep a higher frequency for a higher period of time. Temperature should be reduced a lot but keep in mind games will lag if they need the extra power
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hmm, well after i underclocked i played asphalt 8 for like 20 mins and game performance did not changed significantly. and i feel that the phone is now cooler then before when multitasking stuff.
is there also another way that can realy increase battery life besides underclocking.

abati said:
hmm, well after i underclocked i played asphalt 8 for like 20 mins and game performance did not changed significantly. and i feel that the phone is now cooler then before when multitasking stuff.
is there also another way that can realy increase battery life besides underclocking.
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you also can try custom governors

Hey there, you may be suffering a placebo effect, it can give you a little extra juice, but in my opinion you get most of your battery with these 4:
1. Reduce timeout to 15sec.
2. Adjust screen brightness to be as low as possible (lux helps with this)
3. Eliminate vibrations of any kind (haptic feedback, notications that make your phone vibrate ex. whatsapp) and so on...
4. Data (Use Wifi if possible, 2g when you are not using your phone and airplane mode in some cases extend your battery for a lot too)
Don't expect to get more than 30 min of extra use changing your kernel configurations. ALTHOUGH if you are a heavy user (let us say, in this case, a heavy gamer) there are some kernel configurations you should check.
Also remember, if a task takes you 30min but only consumes 1 % per 30 min compared to doing the exact same task in 30seconds consuming the same 1% which one is worth it?
Phones hardware is way above the software we have available at this time, underclocking and undervolting is an option and you won't feel the difference but, as I've stated before, those are not the main issues of the battery drain.
I hope I've helped you out!

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[HOW TO]Tackle battery drainage/Lags problems!! [UPDATED]

Hello everyone.
I used to be very disappointed on the battery performance of our stock roms. Our customs roms solved many problems but this battery problem stayed for some people like me.! So i started experimenting on various categories and now i finally have a sufficient battery backup of around 40 hours that keeps me and my android going!!
So here is how to save your damn precious battery!!
It has worked for some people i know and i hope it do work for you too!!
I am using fugumod ultra kernal and it gives me absolutely no lags at all + a super duper battery!!
-Battery Calibration [ROOT]
Whenever you flash any new custom rom, you should always calibrate your battery! Here is an app that does that!!
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-Flash Fugumod ultra kernel (Strictly for Fugumod Ultra) )<link>
Flash this kernel and use set minimum frequency for 780 hz and Maximum frequency to 1366 hz.
Set the governor to Performance
CONFUSED Yes this thing sounds crazy!! But you can always try. I have written this after experiencing it myself!!
-For G3Mod Kernels & Other Versions Of fugumod [OverClocked]
Follow these steps:
Install Setcpu/ Any other cpu controll app
Set Max value to the highest frequency. Minimum between 300-400.
Now using the profiles option set POWERSAVE governor to those times when you wont be using your phone much (ex:while sleeping).
Then for other times use ONDEMAND governor.
While charging profile is set then make sure that governor is set as PERFORMANCE.
You may also try other governors. Haven't tried... (suggestions welcome)
-Install Auto Memory Manager app[ROOT]
Auto memory app automatically kills apps that runs in background based on the profile u set!! After installing the app, use the aggressive profile and the lower the Hidden Application slider to in between 30-40 mb, so that your important background apps are not killed unless the ram is very low..!!
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- Supercharger script
Supercharger script is also a great alternative.. You need to run the script from your rooted rom using terminal emulator. See this <link>
This script is included in most of the recent custom roms. See their respective version changelog for info.
Now your phone will be lag free..!! It has been tested and working!! My android phone runs the way it should!!
Lets jump to battery problems
-Battery Calibration has to be done.!!
-After that I recommend you to use your resources a bit cleverly!! Data connection takes a lot of battery for me.! Now fine you need internet when you are on the move. But you don't need it while sleeping do you??
android apps requiring data connection to retrieve data keep on retrieving it even while you sleep but you only see that data after waking up and getting out of our bed. So you should shut off internet while sleeping!!
-Now display.
display consumes battery!! best is to keep display to 10 when its dark!! And around 40 during the day!
I keep it to zero all the time and use keep toggling it to max only when i need it using dimmer!!
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-3d Gallery. (thanks rai_tushar)
Consumes a lot of battery!! Use quickpic. Better and faster alternative
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More tips by rudolf895
*Not using set CPU for short time profiles.(not using different frequency while phone is on standby)
*Exiting apps using the back key, home key put the apps to background task.
*using 2g when needed..
*use wifi for bigger than 10mb download as it woudl be fast n easy.
*least brightness
So i think that should be it.!!
One last trick.
If you use tasker or any other automation app try this.
(With respect to tasker)
Make a new context>state>plugged in
Then make a new task for the context>app>load app>Fast reboot <link>
So whenever you will plug in your phone the app be will run automatically and then your phone will be free from any lags.
Data Connection uses lots of battery and will result in battery drain. Most of the time many data is retrieved when you wont be viewing it/using it. But it will result in wastage of data. So u need to make sure you use your data connection wisely
i would highly recommend you all to use tasker app for automation of your android phone. Automatically toggle display, mobile data etc depending upon various contexts (application, time, location). Read THIS thread for more information on tasker.
Conclusion
If you want a rock solid battery and an android phone that should be proud of its speed, and you are not getting any solution, go ahead and try the above..!!
Battery setting may or may not suit you!! This was just a sharing of my experiences which i had en-route to getting a lag-free/rock-battery.
Happy Androiding!!
Thank you for it, but your "this" does not link to any thread. However, I'm assuming you mean for it to be the link that the "here" for the 'ultimate android app' links to. Might want to change that. Thanks for the tips, though.
Mohit12 said:
Thank you for it, but your "this" does not link to any thread. However, I'm assuming you mean for it to be the link that the "here" for the 'ultimate android app' links to. Might want to change that. Thanks for the tips, though.
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Thanks a lot for that!! Fixed the link!!
Yes its the ultimate app!!
Idk why keep higher minimum CPU frequency your battery should have drained faster even when your phone would be idle..
For me this worked :
*Not using set CPU for short time profiles.(not using different frequency while phone is on standby)
*Exiting apps using the back key, home key put the apps to background task.
*using 2g when needed..
*use wifi for bigger than 10mb download as it woudl be fast n easy.
*least brightness
Hope this helps some one. ;-)
Tapatalked from my super smooth, ultra fast samsung galaxy s2.
neo1691 said:
-Flash Fugumod ultra kernal (this worked for me, havent tried G3mod kernals)<link>
Flash this kernal and use set minimum frequency for 780 hz and Maximum frequency to 1366 hz.
Set the governor to Performance
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this doesn't make sense, if you set governor to performance your phone will be running at 1366 mhz at all times regardless of minimum frequency and that will murder your battery. Make a profile for screen off and set it to 83 or166min and 222 or 333 max and ondemand governor, that will save you some battery. When you use the phone set the max frequency to 667 or 800 with conservative or ondemand. Use high freq only when needed - for playing heavy games
rudolf895 said:
Idk why keep higher minimum CPU frequency your battery should have drained faster even when your phone would be idle..
For me this worked :
*Not using set CPU for short time profiles.(not using different frequency while phone is on standby)
*Exiting apps using the back key, home key put the apps to background task.
*using 2g when needed..
*use wifi for bigger than 10mb download as it woudl be fast n easy.
*least brightness
Hope this helps some one. ;-)
Tapatalked from my super smooth, ultra fast samsung galaxy s2.
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this doesn't make sense, if you set governor to performance your phone will be running at 1366 mhz at all times regardless of minimum frequency and that will murder your battery. Make a profile for screen off and set it to 83 or166min and 222 or 333 max and ondemand governor, that will save you some battery. When you use the phone set the max frequency to 667 or 800 with conservative or ondemand. Use high freq only when needed - for playing heavy games
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I was excepting this post from someone.. Yes you might say why keep governor to performance with 1366 max.. well thats how we tackle lag!!!
@rudolf!
Surprisingly battery drain is very less for me (and some others too) with these tweaks.. otherwise why would i share them!!
1 more solution:-gallery 3d uses more battery
u can use quickpic as a replacement
rai_tushar said:
1 more solution:-gallery 3d uses more battery
u can use quickpic as a replacement
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exactly.. Thank you. will update the op as soon as I find a laptop., I always use quick pic but never really considered it a battery saver..
Disabling SNS is also a good way to save battery.
Not applying the RAM optimization script provided in the Dev section will also save battery 'cus I have faced increased battery drain with it.
And does reducing the voltage save battery? If so.. can you please provide some info about it..??
Enviado desde mi Galaxy 3
thanks for the info as i was just about to install the ram optimization tool but considering that it sucks more battery, i wont do it
danveer said:
thanks for the info as i was just about to install the ram optimization tool but considering that it sucks more battery, i wont do it
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Try the above . Of that still don't help you, then you are can try ram optimization
"-Flash Fugumod ultra kernal (this worked for me, havent tried G3mod kernals)<link>
Flash this kernal and use set minimum frequency for 780 hz and Maximum frequency to 1366 hz.
Set the governor to Performance"
with this, the battery will last a full day maximum (with normal-low usage)!
kyrillos13 said:
"-Flash Fugumod ultra kernal (this worked for me, havent tried G3mod kernals)<link>
Flash this kernal and use set minimum frequency for 780 hz and Maximum frequency to 1366 hz.
Set the governor to Performance"
with this, the battery will last a full day maximum (with normal-low usage)!
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agreed.. theoretically it should last not more than one day!! but seriously i have tried that and my phone practically lasts for more than 35 hours..
And that's y i am sharing the info!!
EDIT: setcpu v 2.1.3
ron_gangte said:
Disabling SNS is also a good way to save battery.
Not applying the RAM optimization script provided in the Dev section will also save battery 'cus I have faced increased battery drain with it.
And does reducing the voltage save battery? If so.. can you please provide some info about it..??
Enviado desde mi Galaxy 3
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Reducing the voltage to the CPU may cause problems and will not save any battery. You can think of it like a simple circuit, with the CPU effective being a "resistor". so you have just a battery, voltage regulator, and CPU, as you reduce voltage, amperage will increase (and battery drain will actually increase!!!) Amperage is what drains your battery, not voltage.
My recommendations (I have tertiary electrical engineer qualifications to back me up)
- Stick with the stock voltages for the different frequencies you use.
- To save battery, turn off wifi & bluetooth when you are not using them.
- Install APNDroid, to easily switch 3G/EDGE data off when not needed (still allows you to receive MMS messages when data is off, and has a widget)
- Set your screen to the minimum brightness that you can (but so that the display is still bright enough to use)
- Turn of "Power Saving" in display settings (actually uses more power than it saves 9 times out of 10)
- Use task manager, or a ram management tool to kill apps that don't need to be running in the background, and always use the back button to go out of apps, the home button will leave the app running in the background (sucking battery and slowing the phone down)
- If using a CPU management tool set minimum to 83MHz (or lowest your phone is happy with, or that you are happy with to kill lag), set maximum to whatever you like (that phone can handle) and use a governor like "on demand". Set up profiles to lower maximum frequency when screen is off, or temp is high (higher temperatures will result in faster discharge off battery)
I do all of this, and I can get up to 3 days use without charging (depending on usage)
Things that will drain your battery the most (highest power usage):
- Wifi
- Bluetooth
- 3G/EDGE
- Screen
- Phone calls
nrk_2k said:
Reducing the voltage to the CPU may cause problems and will not save any battery. You can think of it like a simple circuit, with the CPU effective being a "resistor". so you have just a battery, voltage regulator, and CPU, as you reduce voltage, amperage will increase (and battery drain will actually increase!!!) Amperage is what drains your battery, not voltage.
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sry, but this is completely wrong.
if it was true what you said increasing the voltage would save power...
decreasing the voltage DOES save power, but unless the CPU isn't running at maximum load the whole time you won't see a big difference.
the frequency of the CPU raises the consumed wattage linearly while voltage goes into the calculation by square. so decreasing the voltage is the best option to lower the consumed power of the CPU as the speed isn't affected. problem is of course that the CPU won't run below a certain limit. the CPU in my G3 is running 800MHz @ 1.125V which is 75mV below stock (667MHz).
the amperage does not change while undervolting.
sharukins said:
sry, but this is completely wrong.
if it was true what you said increasing the voltage would save power...
decreasing the voltage DOES save power, but unless the CPU isn't running at maximum load the whole time you won't see a big difference.
the frequency of the CPU raises the consumed wattage linearly while voltage goes into the calculation by square. so decreasing the voltage is the best option to lower the consumed power of the CPU as the speed isn't affected. problem is of course that the CPU won't run below a certain limit. the CPU in my G3 is running 800MHz @ 1.125V which is 75mV below stock (667MHz).
the amperage does not change while undervolting.
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First off, I never said anything about saving power, as power is the resulting work of voltage vs. amps, I was talking about battery drain, not power (they are totally different things). The voltage of a battery will not change greatly until it is nearly empty (if it did, it would be pointless rating a battery to a certain voltage), where as the amperage will lower as the battery gets drained. The amount of time a battery lasts is determined by its amperage, not voltage (hence why a 2100mAh battery will last longer, doing the same amount of work as an 1800mAh battery). So if what you claim (amperage not changing while undervolting) were true, then you would see NO change in battery drain due to undervolting. Voltage NEVER drains a battery, it's the amount of amps being drawn that drain the battery. P=IV is the power equation for a closed DC circuit. If we assume P is a constant (which it has to be, to be getting the same output from a CPU) then when you lower V, I must therefore increase. and Likewise, if you raise V, I will decrease.
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First off, I never said anything about saving power, as power is the resulting work of voltage vs. amps, I was talking about battery drain, not power (they are totally different things). The voltage of a battery will not change greatly until it is nearly empty (if it did, it would be pointless rating a battery to a certain voltage), where as the amperage will lower as the battery gets drained. The amount of time a battery lasts is determined by its amperage, not voltage (hence why a 2100mAh battery will last longer, doing the same amount of work as an 1800mAh battery). So if what you claim (amperage not changing while undervolting) were true, then you would see NO change in battery drain due to undervolting. Voltage NEVER drains a battery, it's the amount of amps being drawn that drain the battery. P=IV is the power equation for a closed DC circuit. If we assume P is a constant (which it has to be, to be getting the same output from a CPU) then when you lower V, I must therefore increase. and Likewise, if you raise V, I will decrease.
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well i am having just perfect battery without undervoltage..!! :
but ya definitely learned many new things from the above discussions
nrk_2k said:
First off, I never said anything about saving power, as power is the resulting work of voltage vs. amps, I was talking about battery drain, not power (they are totally different things). The voltage of a battery will not change greatly until it is nearly empty (if it did, it would be pointless rating a battery to a certain voltage), where as the amperage will lower as the battery gets drained. The amount of time a battery lasts is determined by its amperage, not voltage (hence why a 2100mAh battery will last longer, doing the same amount of work as an 1800mAh battery). So if what you claim (amperage not changing while undervolting) were true, then you would see NO change in battery drain due to undervolting. Voltage NEVER drains a battery, it's the amount of amps being drawn that drain the battery. P=IV is the power equation for a closed DC circuit. If we assume P is a constant (which it has to be, to be getting the same output from a CPU) then when you lower V, I must therefore increase. and Likewise, if you raise V, I will decrease.
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I didn't want to start a discussion about this...
the wattage isn't constant as you calculate it.
calculation power is not equal to electrical power.
voltage itself of course does not drain battery, but what drains battery is wattage, and wattage is reduced due to lower voltage.
the problem is that the unit mAh isn't really the capacity of the battery. the right unit would be Wh or mWh.
so you have to multiply the mAh with the voltage of the batter to get the real capacity.
so decreasing voltage in fact does save you some battery life, but as I said, you wouldn't notice it unless the CPU is under full load the whole time as in smartphones biggest power consumption comes from display and other parts (at least with the slow CPU in the G3).
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I didn't want to start a discussion about this...
the wattage isn't constant as you calculate it.
calculation power is not equal to electrical power.
voltage itself of course does not drain battery, but what drains battery is wattage, and wattage is reduced due to lower voltage.
the problem is that the unit mAh isn't really the capacity of the battery. the right unit would be Wh or mWh.
so you have to multiply the mAh with the voltage of the batter to get the real capacity.
so decreasing voltage in fact does save you some battery life, but as I said, you wouldn't notice it unless the CPU is under full load the whole time as in smartphones biggest power consumption comes from display and other parts (at least with the slow CPU in the G3).
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now thats what i call some serious battery saver
sharukins said:
I didn't want to start a discussion about this...
the wattage isn't constant as you calculate it.
calculation power is not equal to electrical power.
voltage itself of course does not drain battery, but what drains battery is wattage, and wattage is reduced due to lower voltage.
the problem is that the unit mAh isn't really the capacity of the battery. the right unit would be Wh or mWh.
so you have to multiply the mAh with the voltage of the batter to get the real capacity.
so decreasing voltage in fact does save you some battery life, but as I said, you wouldn't notice it unless the CPU is under full load the whole time as in smartphones biggest power consumption comes from display and other parts (at least with the slow CPU in the G3).
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Would have to disagree about a true measure of battery capacity being the Wh, or mWh, as wattage depends on load, and since you never run a battery with 0 load, you cannot represent its capacity using Wh or mWh. I have studied batteries intimately at university level, and know exactly how & why they work. the mAh (Ah) is the industry wide accepted unit for battery capacity, as no matter what the load it is always constant. I am happy to agree that wattage is not always constant for a set frequency on a CPU (as it is possible to over-voltage for that frequency), but for processors such as those which are used in our phones, you very rarely find any substantial over-voltage as due to modern manufacturing techniques there is a much tighter range of voltage acceptance for the core. Hence why most people get only a minute (completely stable) undervoltage. And anyone who would actually gain from undervoltage, would be able to tell that their CPU is using excess energy as ALL this energy would be dispersed as heat. Any extra wattage drawn over what is actually required by the components inside the CPU will be converted to heat as it is not required by the components to run. So unless you see excess heat from your CPU, undervolting will only achieve degraded performance, or CPU stalls. And it is at this point that it will drain the battery more, as there is a minimum wattage that a set frequency requires, if you drop the voltage below what it should be, the amperage will increase to mantain the minimum wattage required (or the CPU will stall and the phone will freeze/switch off). The only real world point to undervolting a CPU is for cooling purposes, the energy savings from doing so are minuscule, to none, and can to a point end up consuming more battery. You would save far more battery by lowering your screen brightness by a few percent.

[DISCUSS] Underclocking

Hi guys,
I've read guides on using SetCPU to underclock the battery to conserve power, and hence I tried it.
What I did was to change the CPU scaling to 'ondemand', and created a profile that runs the CPU at ~300MHz when the screen is off. However, I've noticed a drastic decrease in battery life instead; the battery seems to drop faster while playing video games, and there was a humongous drop of 30% battery with one night's sleep (data is off).
Just wondering whether I did anything wrongly, and how do I achieve the most energy-efficient settings? (And any undervolting gurus here?)
Thanks!
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The reason why the battery is draining faster when playing games while underclocking is because you're forcing the phone to work harder as its power is limited.
It's working harder to play games that it usually wouldn't have much trouble playing.
Raysie said:
The reason why the battery is draining faster when playing games while underclocking is because you're forcing the phone to work harder as its power is limited.
It's working harder to play games that it usually wouldn't have much trouble playing.
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Since I have my CPU scaling set to 'ondemand', shouldn't it scale back up to 1GHz when playing games? Or does it only go as much as it thinks is required?
In this case, should I setup custom profiles when launching applications?
vemoxy said:
Since I have my CPU scaling set to 'ondemand', shouldn't it scale back up to 1GHz when playing games? Or does it only go as much as it thinks is required?
In this case, should I setup custom profiles when launching applications?
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I'm not 100% sure mate. But by the sounds of things, it sounds like something (possibly a game or heavy app) is still running in the background while the phone's screen is turned off.
Sorry I couldn't help more, but I do definitely know the reason for the battery drainage is due to the PC working overtime while it's being told to only work at ~300Mhz.
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I'm not 100% sure mate. But by the sounds of things, it sounds like something (possibly a game or heavy app) is still running in the background while the phone's screen is turned off.
Sorry I couldn't help more, but I do definitely know the reason for the battery drainage is due to the PC working overtime while it's being told to only work at ~300Mhz.
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Ahh that makes so much sense now. I remember checking the running services and not finding anything but I guess whatever app that was running might not be displayed. Thanks!
Any undervolting experts!!

Battery Saving Apps (4.0.4 Aurora ICS)

Hi there many of you have thought about battery saving apps.
Do they really work?
Are there some apps that instead of saving battery just drain your battery even more?
Do you know any methods that really save battery?
Just post your oppinions about this subject.
nikeradsn said:
Hi there many of you have thought about battery saving apps.
Do they really work?
Are there some apps that instead of saving battery just drain your battery even more?
Do you know any methods that really save battery?
Just post your oppinions about this subject.
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Battery saver apps are useless. just turn of data, sync,WiFi, Bluetooth when not in use. decrease screen brightness and screen timeout to 30 seconds. Use 245-806 with ondemand goveror for better battery.
mittalmailbox said:
Battery saver apps are useless. just turn of data, sync,WiFi, Bluetooth when not in use. decrease screen brightness and screen timeout to 30 seconds. Use 245-806 with ondemand goveror for better battery.
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I've read many people saying that using the ondemand governor wouldnt save that much battery because of the continuous search for cpu activity, actually i'm using performance at 1024 and i also have another profile with 806 performance aswell.
I have to test it better in order to see which governor saves more battery.
I think a good set may useful
nikeradsn said:
I've read many people saying that using the ondemand governor wouldnt save that much battery because of the continuous search for cpu activity, actually i'm using performance at 1024 and i also have another profile with 806 performance aswell.
I have to test it better in order to see which governor saves more battery.
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I used to use 806 on demand, 1024 ondemand and 1200 ondemand... now I'm using 1024 performance, and I dont see any battery difference.. damn thing still drains.
The battery lasts 4/5 days on idle, what more do you want? It's par for the course.
why do you need the phone to stay on idle? for that you could buy a 10$ one =S
nikeradsn said:
why do you need the phone to stay on idle? for that you could buy a 10$ one =S
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Because it's an indicator of battery performance and proves there's nothing wrong with battery life on Aurora, despite what many believe. Having ~1 day of battery life with heavy usage and 4-5 days (or even more) on idle is on par with the battery specs.
faekplastik3s said:
Because it's an indicator of battery performance and proves there's nothing wrong with battery life on Aurora, despite what many believe. Having ~1 day of battery life with heavy usage and 4-5 days (or even more) on idle is on par with the battery specs.
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Actually we all know that the battery life in aurora its not full optimized. what i mean is what can we do in order to get the best performance without having to spend so much battery life. maybe its not possible but who knows
Fact: ICS produces more traffic than GB. A lot of apps (like browser) use more memory, so background processes die more quickly. You cannot except to get the same kind of battery performance out of an ICS rom and that's the end of it. This has nothing to do with Aurora.
When I dont need to use the phone I put the governor in powersave with a low Mhz and the battery is more safe with little use.
Phone become a little more slow but work.
When I really need to use the phone I change the governor to Smartessv2

Is it safe to change my CPU governor to "performance" to force max clock speed?

Is it safe to change my CPU governor to "performance" to force max clock speed?
I don't want to overclock my Note 4, don't worry, not talking about that. But I am talking about MAX clocking it - forcing it to run at maximum rated speed. I've already tested out SetCPU and used it to change my governor to performance which forces the clock to max, and it nearly doubled my framerate in many games, especially the ones that struggled to play on this device like Xcom:EW.
But I quickly turned it off because I wasn't sure it was safe to do in the new era of smartphones, what with their DVFS and all. I'm worried that I'm going to overheat the CPU, and it's not going to be able to downclock because of temperature anymore. I'm only modifying the governor, but what if I actually used SetCPU to just change the CPU clock to max, without even touching the governor?
Can I hurt my phone by doing this? Can I safely start forcing my CPU to run faster while playing games, knowing that the only thing I risk is my battery draining faster, or am I actually risking damaging components by doing this?
Hello and thank you for using Q/A,
your CPU will not be damaged, but the battery life time will be shorted.
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I personally have used Performance governor on Moto X 2013 for almost the whole 8 months I had it, 24x7 I mean. Never had a problem, yeah maybe battery life was little less than normal but I never did really care about it. Then I ran the same governor for a good period of time on my Note 3 too, same, no problem at all. Like you said, in games the frame rate difference is massive, but I don't play much games, I simply used that governor because it gets rid off all those micro lags and jitters which are Android's trademark, I simply can't them, with default Interactive the micro lags are very apparent.
However with Note 4 I am pretty happy with the BluActive governor, it makes most of the micro lags to go away, so sticking with it.
In any case unless you plan to use a mobile phone for maybe 5 years or so, I don't see any problem at all with it, other than a slightly increased heat, and maybe a little less battery backup, but you will find so many comments which might scare you, that chip burns off if you run it and all that, but those mainly are BS.

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What is the best battery rom and your best SOT?
in my experience ; the best battery rom is eui 5.8.019s
I tested miui and battery was very correct in my opinion.
small eui v3 beta its good at the moment.
irfancan18 said:
small eui v3 beta its good at the moment.
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How much sot?
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5-5.30. Gaming, social media etc
I am currently using Miui 10 pro global V8.9.20 + Illusion kernel V3 which is giving me 5:30 hrs of screen on time completely bugless.
You can get the Illusion kernel only in the Le 2 Telegram channel posting link for the same you go & download kernel from there.
1. Le 2 telegram channel link for Kernel
https://t.me/LeEco_Le2 (click this link in your phone after installing telegram make an account , use Chrome or Opera browser only other browser don't redirect this link).
2. Miui 10 pro Global for Le 2 link Gdrive
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gbspIBvM3EhBeapluGfZl-UECNB_fEeQ/view
Cannot get illusion kernel.
URL leads to error 500.
Could you share another link please ?
Thanks
Found here :
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=673791459329070680
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How much sot?
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I have never got this much screen on time on the leeco le 2 (SD version) so I just had to share this with somebody... anybody really. Whomever has done better please feel free to share your awesome le 2 battery life with smallEUI, stock,or any other rom (doubtful).
So I just got 8 hours and 30 minutes of sot running smallEUI version 3 with illusion kernel v2.5. (Note: I used v2.5 because v3 uses lazy plug for CPU hot plugging which IMHO has far more battery drain than the stock Qualcomm core control) but I digress...
Anyways, I am a heavy gamer and frequently play real racing 3 for more than 1.5 hours in some days Today I decided to cut back and only played it for 25 minutes.This reduced gaming time enabled me to subject my phone to a more mixed use pattern. When I started I wasn't even looking to break any screen on time records but at around 21% battery remaining, I was at 7 hours SOT so I decided to keep using the phone normally until I ran it down to empty.
Here's some background to this achievement...
First off, I don't run anything on stock settings. I use a slimmed down EUI rom, a custom kernel to boot, and minor tweaks to the build.prop. I have done major tweaks to the custom kernel, use greenify in elevated mode, and block the recommended wakelocks on kernel adiutor app. I have also improved thermal thresholds to minimize throttling. When CPU thermal throttles, it leads to more power consumption because it has to stay on longer and use more CPU cycles to finish tasks that it could have completed much faster with high clock speed at the expense of negligible heating. I looked at the stock smallEUI thermal config and was shocked to find that the CPU starts throttling when it reaches temperatures as low as 38 degrees Celsius. (That's too low). The big cores are allowed to hot plug at a measly 40 degrees and at 42 degrees the system is allowed to turn off three of them. Only CPU 4, which is the first big core that controls the other 3 is exempted from being turned off due to this insanely low threshold. However, it doesn't escape the overall thermal tolerance which is set at 38-70 degrees. At which point, it will be doing just 883MHz before getting completely shut down! We all know (I hope we do) that big cores are generally more efficient at higher clock speed but someone must have missed the memo here. (Big cores are set to throttle down to 998MHz at just 50 degrees! Crazy, right). @iaureeel should look into this.
For monitoring, I use better battery stats xda edition, gsam battery monitor, and kernel adiutor overview page. I don't have WiFi so all data comes through 4G (the signal is usually above average to excellent) -- this phone has better reception than any other I've ever used ??
The usage:
Here's a summary of the notable things I did. You may browse the screenshots to see more.
First off: Games...
I played real racing 3 for around 25 minutes
Tried out a newly downloaded (on this same charge cycle) 3D game called war wings -- Around 20 minutes. Spoiler alert: it's awesome?
Starting with full charge and hammering the battery to about 15%, I can play real racing 3 for 4 hours non-stop.
Others:
I watched some YouTube over 4G for 30 minutes
I used brave to browse the web for just over an hour.
Side note: surface flinger showed up on BBS probably because I speeded up scrolling in build.prop. It shouldn't be this active but the power draw is probably not too significant.
How I did it
Recap of what enabled me to have this sot figure:
1. Optimized custom EUI-based ROM (smallEUI)
2. Custom kernel (heavily customizable and tweaked to kingdom come)
3. Greenify
4. Higher thermal tolerance for the CPU (it doesn't even get hot enough to be uncomfortable even at highest load. The plus for the battery here is that the CPU completes tasks much faster and then goes into a quick race to idle (thanks to a tweak I've added to blu_active governor for big cores)
5. No automatic brightness! I often get by with minimum brightness but when I need more I manually bump it up to 10-25%. 50 % is enough for me to comfortably use the phone outside. And not in direct sunlight because who can compete with the sun? Not any phone's display. THAT'S FOR SURE!
6. Cherry-picked build.prop tweaks
7. No Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, and other naughty social apps that put your phone in a wakelock chockhold until its precious juice is depleted.
Conclusion:
I have never been one to hunt screen-on-time records (and wasn't in this case) but today has showed me a side of this phone that I didn't know existed. That's really good battery backup. I didn't think it was this easy but leeco did some clever things too in order to make it possible. First is charging the battery to 4.4 volts which increases charge holding capacity to 110% of the reference design. I don't recommend that you charge to 100% because it will be at the expense of battery life span. (Unless leeco uses a military grade battery like they do in the Coolpad cool 1 dual and LeRee le 3).
Another thing that helps is the inclination of EUI towards power saving. SmallEUI is even better because it saves power without hindering user experience. Notifications come on time and there is no stuttering even on stock everything.
Full disclosure: My phone is brand new(ish) at just one month old.
That's all for now... Check out the screenshots. As they say, the proof is in the pudding ?. There's a limit to the number of files I can attach so I've put the rest in a .zip file
twistyplain said:
I have never got this much screen on time on the leeco le 2 (SD version) so I just had to share this with somebody... anybody really. Whomever has done better please feel free to share your awesome le 2 battery life with smallEUI, stock,or any other rom (doubtful).
So I just got 8 hours and 30 minutes of sot running smallEUI version 3 with illusion kernel v2.5. (Note: I used v2.5 because v3 uses lazy plug for CPU hot plugging which IMHO has far more battery drain than the stock Qualcomm core control) but I digress...
Anyways, I am a heavy gamer and frequently play real racing 3 for more than 1.5 hours in some days Today I decided to cut back and only played it for 25 minutes.This reduced gaming time enabled me to subject my phone to a more mixed use pattern. When I started I wasn't even looking to break any screen on time records but at around 21% battery remaining, I was at 7 hours SOT so I decided to keep using the phone normally until I ran it down to empty.
Here's some background to this achievement...
First off, I don't run anything on stock settings. I use a slimmed down EUI rom, a custom kernel to boot, and minor tweaks to the build.prop. I have done major tweaks to the custom kernel, use greenify in elevated mode, and block the recommended wakelocks on kernel adiutor app. I have also improved thermal thresholds to minimize throttling. When CPU thermal throttles, it leads to more power consumption because it has to stay on longer and use more CPU cycles to finish tasks that it could have completed much faster with high clock speed at the expense of negligible heating. I looked at the stock smallEUI thermal config and was shocked to find that the CPU starts throttling when it reaches temperatures as low as 38 degrees Celsius. (That's too low). The big cores are allowed to hot plug at a measly 40 degrees and at 42 degrees the system is allowed to turn off three of them. Only CPU 4, which is the first big core that controls the other 3 is exempted from being turned off due to this insanely low threshold. However, it doesn't escape the overall thermal tolerance which is set at 38-70 degrees. At which point, it will be doing just 883MHz before getting completely shut down! We all know (I hope we do) that big cores are generally more efficient at higher clock speed but someone must have missed the memo here. (Big cores are set to throttle down to 998MHz at just 50 degrees! Crazy, right). @iaureeel should look into this.
For monitoring, I use better battery stats xda edition, gsam battery monitor, and kernel adiutor overview page. I don't have WiFi so all data comes through 4G (the signal is usually above average to excellent) -- this phone has better reception than any other I've ever used ??
The usage:
Here's a summary of the notable things I did. You may browse the screenshots to see more.
First off: Games...
I played real racing 3 for around 25 minutes
Tried out a newly downloaded (on this same charge cycle) 3D game called war wings -- Around 20 minutes. Spoiler alert: it's awesome
Starting with full charge and hammering the battery to about 15%, I can play real racing 3 for 4 hours non-stop.
Others:
I watched some YouTube over 4G for 30 minutes
I used brave to browse the web for just over an hour.
Side note: surface flinger showed up on BBS probably because I speeded up scrolling in build.prop. It shouldn't be this active but the power draw is probably not too significant.
How I did it
Recap of what enabled me to have this sot figure:
1. Optimized custom EUI-based ROM (smallEUI)
2. Custom kernel (heavily customizable and tweaked to kingdom come)
3. Greenify
4. Higher thermal tolerance for the CPU (it doesn't even get hot enough to be uncomfortable even at highest load. The plus for the battery here is that the CPU completes tasks much faster and then goes into a quick race to idle (thanks to a tweak I've added to blu_active governor for big cores)
5. No automatic brightness! I often get by with minimum brightness but when I need more I manually bump it up to 10-25%. 50 % is enough for me to comfortably use the phone outside. And not in direct sunlight because who can compete with the sun? Not any phone's display. THAT'S FOR SURE!
6. Cherry-picked build.prop tweaks
7. No Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, and other naughty social apps that put your phone in a wakelock chockhold until its precious juice is depleted.
Conclusion:
I have never been one to hunt screen-on-time records (and wasn't in this case) but today has showed me a side of this phone that I didn't know existed. That's really good battery backup. I didn't think it was this easy but leeco did some clever things too in order to make it possible. First is charging the battery to 4.4 volts which increases charge holding capacity to 110% of the reference design. I don't recommend that you charge to 100% because it will be at the expense of battery life span. (Unless leeco uses a military grade battery like they do in the Coolpad cool 1 dual and LeRee le 3).
Another thing that helps is the inclination of EUI towards power saving. SmallEUI is even better because it saves power without hindering user experience. Notifications come on time and there is no stuttering even on stock everything.
Full disclosure: My phone is brand new(ish) at just one month old.
That's all for now... Check out the screenshots. As they say, the proof is in the pudding . There's a limit to the number of files I can attach so I've put the rest in a .zip file
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could you pls share how did you custimize he kernel ? if you could pls upload your kernel auditor profile or photos.
yoguy said:
could you pls share how did you custimize he kernel ? if you could pls upload your kernel auditor profile or photos.
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Here's my kernel adiutor profile.
yoguy said:
could you pls share how did you custimize he kernel ? if you could pls upload your kernel auditor profile or photos.
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Could you please share me screenshots of ExKM or kernel aduitor and build.prop strings that you added. Btw, I want them for stock eui for 6 hrs SOT
sirnono said:
I tested miui and battery was very correct in my opinion.
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i never see a rom very bad with battery like the miui's rom on le 2 , version after version and this problem is not fixed
,i dont know why
what's version you talking about ?
stock battery life
mid95 said:
in my experience ; the best battery rom is eui 5.8.019s
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i am using it after installing custom rom on my phone but i am not getting same sot as i get before installing custom rom.
plz help me in this case, i locked bootloader of my phone too.
Hi
twistyplain said:
I have never got this much screen on time on the leeco le 2 (SD version) so I just had to share this with somebody... anybody really. Whomever has done better please feel free to share your awesome le 2 battery life with smallEUI, stock,or any other rom (doubtful).
So I just got 8 hours and 30 minutes of sot running smallEUI version 3 with illusion kernel v2.5. (Note: I used v2.5 because v3 uses lazy plug for CPU hot plugging which IMHO has far more battery drain than the stock Qualcomm core control) but I digress...
Anyways, I am a heavy gamer and frequently play real racing 3 for more than 1.5 hours in some days Today I decided to cut back and only played it for 25 minutes.This reduced gaming time enabled me to subject my phone to a more mixed use pattern. When I started I wasn't even looking to break any screen on time records but at around 21% battery remaining, I was at 7 hours SOT so I decided to keep using the phone normally until I ran it down to empty.
Here's some background to this achievement...
First off, I don't run anything on stock settings. I use a slimmed down EUI rom, a custom kernel to boot, and minor tweaks to the build.prop. I have done major tweaks to the custom kernel, use greenify in elevated mode, and block the recommended wakelocks on kernel adiutor app. I have also improved thermal thresholds to minimize throttling. When CPU thermal throttles, it leads to more power consumption because it has to stay on longer and use more CPU cycles to finish tasks that it could have completed much faster with high clock speed at the expense of negligible heating. I looked at the stock smallEUI thermal config and was shocked to find that the CPU starts throttling when it reaches temperatures as low as 38 degrees Celsius. (That's too low). The big cores are allowed to hot plug at a measly 40 degrees and at 42 degrees the system is allowed to turn off three of them. Only CPU 4, which is the first big core that controls the other 3 is exempted from being turned off due to this insanely low threshold. However, it doesn't escape the overall thermal tolerance which is set at 38-70 degrees. At which point, it will be doing just 883MHz before getting completely shut down! We all know (I hope we do) that big cores are generally more efficient at higher clock speed but someone must have missed the memo here. (Big cores are set to throttle down to 998MHz at just 50 degrees! Crazy, right). @iaureeel should look into this.
For monitoring, I use better battery stats xda edition, gsam battery monitor, and kernel adiutor overview page. I don't have WiFi so all data comes through 4G (the signal is usually above average to excellent) -- this phone has better reception than any other I've ever used ??
The usage:
Here's a summary of the notable things I did. You may browse the screenshots to see more.
First off: Games...
I played real racing 3 for around 25 minutes
Tried out a newly downloaded (on this same charge cycle) 3D game called war wings -- Around 20 minutes. Spoiler alert: it's awesome?
Starting with full charge and hammering the battery to about 15%, I can play real racing 3 for 4 hours non-stop.
Others:
I watched some YouTube over 4G for 30 minutes
I used brave to browse the web for just over an hour.
Side note: surface flinger showed up on BBS probably because I speeded up scrolling in build.prop. It shouldn't be this active but the power draw is probably not too significant.
How I did it
Recap of what enabled me to have this sot figure:
1. Optimized custom EUI-based ROM (smallEUI)
2. Custom kernel (heavily customizable and tweaked to kingdom come)
3. Greenify
4. Higher thermal tolerance for the CPU (it doesn't even get hot enough to be uncomfortable even at highest load. The plus for the battery here is that the CPU completes tasks much faster and then goes into a quick race to idle (thanks to a tweak I've added to blu_active governor for big cores)
5. No automatic brightness! I often get by with minimum brightness but when I need more I manually bump it up to 10-25%. 50 % is enough for me to comfortably use the phone outside. And not in direct sunlight because who can compete with the sun? Not any phone's display. THAT'S FOR SURE!
6. Cherry-picked build.prop tweaks
7. No Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, and other naughty social apps that put your phone in a wakelock chockhold until its precious juice is depleted.
Conclusion:
I have never been one to hunt screen-on-time records (and wasn't in this case) but today has showed me a side of this phone that I didn't know existed. That's really good battery backup. I didn't think it was this easy but leeco did some clever things too in order to make it possible. First is charging the battery to 4.4 volts which increases charge holding capacity to 110% of the reference design. I don't recommend that you charge to 100% because it will be at the expense of battery life span. (Unless leeco uses a military grade battery like they do in the Coolpad cool 1 dual and LeRee le 3).
Another thing that helps is the inclination of EUI towards power saving. SmallEUI is even better because it saves power without hindering user experience. Notifications come on time and there is no stuttering even on stock everything.
Full disclosure: My phone is brand new(ish) at just one month old.
That's all for now... Check out the screenshots. As they say, the proof is in the pudding ?. There's a limit to the number of files I can attach so I've put the rest in a .zip file
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi. Good day, please how can you help me? I just bought this but it is consuming battery. So I decided to check online for solutions and I found this site. please help me I don't know so much about phone, I just want to enjoy the phone without having to worry about the battery or the high temperature (hot) problem. Thanks.
Hi. Good day, please how can you help me? I just bought this but it is consuming battery. So I decided to check online for solutions and I found this site. please help me I don't know so much about phone, I just want to enjoy the phone without having to worry about the battery or the high temperature (hot) problem. Thanks.
twistyplain said:
I have never got this much screen on time on the leeco le 2 (SD version) so I just had to share this with somebody... anybody really. Whomever has done better please feel free to share your awesome le 2 battery life with smallEUI, stock,or any other rom (doubtful).
So I just got 8 hours and 30 minutes of sot running smallEUI version 3 with illusion kernel v2.5. (Note: I used v2.5 because v3 uses lazy plug for CPU hot plugging which IMHO has far more battery drain than the stock Qualcomm core control) but I digress...
Anyways, I am a heavy gamer and frequently play real racing 3 for more than 1.5 hours in some days Today I decided to cut back and only played it for 25 minutes.This reduced gaming time enabled me to subject my phone to a more mixed use pattern. When I started I wasn't even looking to break any screen on time records but at around 21% battery remaining, I was at 7 hours SOT so I decided to keep using the phone normally until I ran it down to empty.
Here's some background to this achievement...
First off, I don't run anything on stock settings. I use a slimmed down EUI rom, a custom kernel to boot, and minor tweaks to the build.prop. I have done major tweaks to the custom kernel, use greenify in elevated mode, and block the recommended wakelocks on kernel adiutor app. I have also improved thermal thresholds to minimize throttling. When CPU thermal throttles, it leads to more power consumption because it has to stay on longer and use more CPU cycles to finish tasks that it could have completed much faster with high clock speed at the expense of negligible heating. I looked at the stock smallEUI thermal config and was shocked to find that the CPU starts throttling when it reaches temperatures as low as 38 degrees Celsius. (That's too low). The big cores are allowed to hot plug at a measly 40 degrees and at 42 degrees the system is allowed to turn off three of them. Only CPU 4, which is the first big core that controls the other 3 is exempted from being turned off due to this insanely low threshold. However, it doesn't escape the overall thermal tolerance which is set at 38-70 degrees. At which point, it will be doing just 883MHz before getting completely shut down! We all know (I hope we do) that big cores are generally more efficient at higher clock speed but someone must have missed the memo here. (Big cores are set to throttle down to 998MHz at just 50 degrees! Crazy, right). @iaureeel should look into this.
For monitoring, I use better battery stats xda edition, gsam battery monitor, and kernel adiutor overview page. I don't have WiFi so all data comes through 4G (the signal is usually above average to excellent) -- this phone has better reception than any other I've ever used ??
The usage:
Here's a summary of the notable things I did. You may browse the screenshots to see more.
First off: Games...
I played real racing 3 for around 25 minutes
Tried out a newly downloaded (on this same charge cycle) 3D game called war wings -- Around 20 minutes. Spoiler alert: it's awesome?
Starting with full charge and hammering the battery to about 15%, I can play real racing 3 for 4 hours non-stop.
Others:
I watched some YouTube over 4G for 30 minutes
I used brave to browse the web for just over an hour.
Side note: surface flinger showed up on BBS probably because I speeded up scrolling in build.prop. It shouldn't be this active but the power draw is probably not too significant.
How I did it
Recap of what enabled me to have this sot figure:
1. Optimized custom EUI-based ROM (smallEUI)
2. Custom kernel (heavily customizable and tweaked to kingdom come)
3. Greenify
4. Higher thermal tolerance for the CPU (it doesn't even get hot enough to be uncomfortable even at highest load. The plus for the battery here is that the CPU completes tasks much faster and then goes into a quick race to idle (thanks to a tweak I've added to blu_active governor for big cores)
5. No automatic brightness! I often get by with minimum brightness but when I need more I manually bump it up to 10-25%. 50 % is enough for me to comfortably use the phone outside. And not in direct sunlight because who can compete with the sun? Not any phone's display. THAT'S FOR SURE!
6. Cherry-picked build.prop tweaks
7. No Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, and other naughty social apps that put your phone in a wakelock chockhold until its precious juice is depleted.
Conclusion:
I have never been one to hunt screen-on-time records (and wasn't in this case) but today has showed me a side of this phone that I didn't know existed. That's really good battery backup. I didn't think it was this easy but leeco did some clever things too in order to make it possible. First is charging the battery to 4.4 volts which increases charge holding capacity to 110% of the reference design. I don't recommend that you charge to 100% because it will be at the expense of battery life span. (Unless leeco uses a military grade battery like they do in the Coolpad cool 1 dual and LeRee le 3).
Another thing that helps is the inclination of EUI towards power saving. SmallEUI is even better because it saves power without hindering user experience. Notifications come on time and there is no stuttering even on stock everything.
Full disclosure: My phone is brand new(ish) at just one month old.
That's all for now... Check out the screenshots. As they say, the proof is in the pudding ?. There's a limit to the number of files I can attach so I've put the rest in a .zip file
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi. Good day, please how can you help me? I just bought this but it is consuming battery. So I decided to check online for solutions and I found this site. please help me I don't know so much about phone, I just want to enjoy the phone without having to worry about the battery or the high temperature (hot) problem. Thanks.
zikam12 said:
What is the best battery rom and your best SOT?
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Hi. Good day, please how can you help me? I just bought this but it is consuming battery. So I decided to check online for solutions and I found this site. please help me I don't know so much about phone, I just want to enjoy the phone without having to worry about the battery or the high temperature (hot) problem. Thanks.
irfancan18 said:
small eui v3 beta its good at the mome
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Hi. Good day, please how can you help me? I just bought this but it is consuming battery. So I decided to check online for solutions and I found this site. please help me I don't know so much about phone, I just want to enjoy the phone without having to worry about the battery or the high temperature (hot) problem. Thanks.
boyoo001 said:
Hi. Good day, please how can you help me? I just bought this but it is consuming battery. So I decided to check online for solutions and I found this site. please help me I don't know so much about phone, I just want to enjoy the phone without having to worry about the battery or the high temperature (hot) problem. Thanks.
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I have THE Answering for You and ALL other Le Membershipper`s...
If you have a Smartphone, You have to CHANGE your Battery between 12 to 18 Month`s. If you are working in Office and you Use the whole Day Wireless Lan? Then, you have to change the Battery between 12 Month`s and every Year behing the change!
And Dubble 3M Band for the Displayframe you have to Buy also. Oh, IF, you want to Change your Battery then you NEED a HOT Gun Pistol with Minimum 110 Degrees! Heat Up the Frameside about 5-10 Millimeters and DON`T Lift it UP in the Roundings of the Edges! They are Breaking!!

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