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Dude I want to kill myself right now. Got two 1cm scratches on the middle bottom of my xoom. Not noticeable when the screen is on but jesus christ. It was with a ****en water bottle no metal.
I'm dying inside, need help. Anyway of minimizing this?
I bought this from verizon the day of release, is it possible to return and cancel contract? This sounds rediculous but I would love to restart the whole purchase process......****KKKKK
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Hey that rhymes
Small particles which are harder than gorilla glass can stick to either the glass surface or the plastic surface of your water bottle. Accidentally rub them into the glass with the water bottle and you can definitely scratch the glass.
Gorilla glass absolutely requires a screen protector.
As for the return, most places just make sure the serial number matches and the parts are in the box (cables, charger, etc). Never had anyone look closely at the display. Though if they saw it, I'm sure they would reject the return.
any suggestions? ive thought about saying there is a defect in the software/hardware...to do an exchange..or purchasing one off contacting and switching?!
help me people..HELP MEE
If it's not noticeable when you're using it I'm sure you'll forget about it. No need to lie.
Calm down and take a few days to think about if you really care that much.
bogatyr said:
Small particles which are harder than gorilla glass can stick to either the glass surface or the plastic surface of your water bottle. Accidentally rub them into the glass with the water bottle and you can definitely scratch the glass.
Gorilla glass absolutely requires a screen protector.
As for the return, most places just make sure the serial number matches and the parts are in the box (cables, charger, etc). Never had anyone look closely at the display. Though if they saw it, I'm sure they would reject the return.
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I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
z06mike said:
I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
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Exactly, I've dropped my evo countless times and it's perfect still.
You scratched it dude.... sorry for the bad luck but don't cheat the store.
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cwizardtx said:
You scratched it dude.... sorry for the bad luck but don't cheat the store.
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+1 to this.
**** happens, then you die. It doesn't impact use/performance so what's the big deal, now you won't be as upset when you do it again, and you know you're going to do it again!
yeah man but i have had my nexus one for over a year with no screen, no scratches. and thats with No gorilla glass.
this thing with its 'gorilla glass' was surrounded by a freaken poland spring bottle and got scratched?!
anyways, im going to the store, wiping everything...saying there is a horrible glitch where my accounts get dropped/no notifications/random reboots and hopefully the technician will buy it. oh, and ill spread abunch of oily finger prints to ward off the scratches...whatever the case..i did **** up but jesus, thats just wierd..wish me luck with my scumbaggery
Plastic or glass?
iceytea said:
Plastic or glass?
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This, if it were a glass water bottle it's your own fault. Glass + glass == scratch no matter what.
z06mike said:
I don't know about that. My droid X doesn't have a scratch on it and I've given it a couple of knocks!
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And there are other people who have scratched such screens. It can happen. So why bother risking it when a screen protector can be had for under $10? Well maybe under $20 for a tablet.
i agree with the others: don't take it back to the store just because of 2 tiny scratches. With time, you will forget it. If it's not really visible when using, why stress? It's hard for you to go to sleep knowing that your xoom is not being used with a scratch on it?
I remember when I scratched the hell out of my 42-inch plasma tv when I was moving a few years ago. I was so upset, especially at the guy who let the door close on the screen. Once the tv was turned on, couldn't see the scratch, so I stopped worrying and my stress levels went down dramatically
dudeimgeorge said:
Dude I want to kill myself right now. Got two 1cm scratches on the middle bottom of my xoom. Not noticeable when the screen is on but jesus christ. It was with a ****en water bottle no metal.
I'm dying inside, need help. Anyway of minimizing this?
I bought this from verizon the day of release, is it possible to return and cancel contract? This sounds rediculous but I would love to restart the whole purchase process......****KKKKK
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Whatever you try be careful as you may cause more damage. Personally, I would try a small amount of toothpaste on a microfiber cloth. This method completely removed a scratch on my Epic 4G (Gorilla glass).
I'm actually pretty surprised by this.
My Samsung Vibrant has gorilla glass and has taken a serious pounding from not even caring about the keys in my pocket to actually falling face down on the sidewalk.
This is why I got insurance on my Xoom from BB.
it was a PLASTIC poland spring bottle.
im so sick to my stomach over the purchase amount and how fast it scratched. its disheartning...i mean, i have a nexus S now too (dropped 524 for it) and it doesnt have anything...
granted..i left the bottle in my duffle bag with my xoom, but seriously...nothing else in there..i guess i am freaking out but i dont get it.
i know its a low life move but im within my 14days return policy and maybe i can get away with making up false claims of software issues without the technician being too penetrating in operating it...and if so..ill walk away, head in lap, and accept the scratches.
ill post the damn pictures of it right now
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yeah man but i have had my nexus one for over a year with no screen, no scratches. and thats with No gorilla glass.
this thing with its 'gorilla glass' was surrounded by a freaken poland spring bottle and got scratched?!
anyways, im going to the store, wiping everything...saying there is a horrible glitch where my accounts get dropped/no notifications/random reboots and hopefully the technician will buy it. oh, and ill spread abunch of oily finger prints to ward off the scratches...whatever the case..i did **** up but jesus, thats just wierd..wish me luck with my scumbaggery
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Good luck man, I'd be rright there with you if that happened to me. It is your own idiocracy for not having a screen protector on I left the plastin on that said where the volume and whatnot on my xoom for two days till I got a screen protector.
But either way I'm rooting for you, let me know how things turn out.
And for the haters I know its his fault and it really don't effect anything significant, but can you honestly say you wouldn't try the same thing? I mean its not like he had it in a bag with a handful of coins, it was a water bottle, imagine that being you. Trying to be all healthy by drinking water only for it to turn on you and chomp up your new multi hundred dollar device's screen.
Now the real story, you left it in a duffel bag unprotected? I did that once with my kindle and the screen cracked. What do you expect will happen?
Got my Xperia tablet Z a few days ago in Japan. Stopping in Dubai on the way back to the UK I could not resist dunking it into the sea!
http://youtu.be/bJkUST6NO5U
Enjoy!
iwabernethy said:
Got my Xperia tablet Z a few days ago in Japan. Stopping in Dubai on the way back to the UK I could not resist dunking it into the sea!
http://youtu.be/bJkUST6NO5U
Enjoy!
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Actually I think that salty seawater is not a good idea, water resistant or not..
Yup, that's pretty stupid, considering the corrosive nature of saltwater.
I have a waterproof camera, and on the user manual says after sea dunk, you must wash it with normal water to remove the salts.
The camera is still working.
I guess the same concept applys here!
Ok i just watched your water, and unlike others, im not going to criticize you for possible corroding your device. But i am going to let you know that Dubai is not known for have the cleanest water, especially that close to the city.
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Ok i just watched your water, and unlike others, im not going to criticize you for possible corroding your device. But i am going to let you know that Dubai is not known for have the cleanest water, especially that close to the city.
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Yes, the water is not very clear, especially inside the Palm as the sea currents do not wash it out that quickly. All good for my immune system of course!
The device is fine. Of course I rinsed it soon after in clean water. However I doubt the corrosive affect of salt water will make much difference on the plastic and glass exterior!
Will be trying again when I'm back there in a couple of weeks. I clearly need to practice my cameraman skills. I wonder how deep it can really go?.......
Haven't dunked mine in the sea yet, but I use it in the bathtub all the time with no issues!
I was just wondering what peoples experiences were with the LG GWatch and water.
I am going on holiday in a few days, although the watch is rated as water resistant I'm still a bit worried.
I have seen several posts where people have kept their watch on whilst washing up or in the shower but what about swimming?
Have ever you kept your watch on in swimming pools (chemicals?) or the sea (salt water?) was there any issues?
Also should I be worried about sand?
This is the first watch I've worn in years & I'm not sure about how much abuse they can take, should I take it off before jumping on the water slides?
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I was just wondering what peoples experiences were with the LG GWatch and water.
I am going on holiday in a few days, although the watch is rated as water resistant I'm still a bit worried.
I have seen several posts where people have kept their watch on whilst washing up or in the shower but what about swimming?
Have ever you kept your watch on in swimming pools (chemicals?) or the sea (salt water?) was there any issues?
Also should I be worried about sand?
This is the first watch I've worn in years & I'm not sure about how much abuse they can take, should I take it off before jumping on the water slides?
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It's rated water resistant for splash water not water proof. I have washed my hands several times with the watch being submerged in water. Not a problem at all even with soap. You can probably even shower, although I do not recommend it. Swimming is a no go though, especially in salt water. Sand is fine as long as you don't rub it on the watch as that scratches the screen and everything else. Also sand might get stuck in the connections to the strap which then gets stuck. But if I was you, I would leave my watch in the apartment when going to the beach.
There's no such thing as a "water proof" watch. Only certain levels of resistance. The G Watch is rated to withstand submersion into a maximum of 1 meter of water for up to 30 minutes (or equivalent pressure). Taking a shower could potentially exceed that (depending on your water pressure), as could swimming.
Agreeing with spiderflash, I also wouldn't worry about it while raining, washing my hands, going to Splash Mountain, or even washing the watch in the average sink. But I definitely wouldn't be bringing it with me into the shower, ocean, or swimming. Beach/sand would be fine, as the watch is dust proof. So long as you don't mind the sand scratching it to hell. I wouldn't bring it to the beach either.
If I'm doing one of those other activities...that's what my Timex Ironman is for!
Thanks for the replies, I'm really not comfortable in any of those situations so the watch will be definately be staying back where it's safe.:good:
I know there has been some discussion in this forum about just how waterproof the Z3 is exactly and how far you can push it, so I wanted to share my experience from the past week. On day two of a six day trip to St. John, USVI my GoPro developed a nice crack in its housing. Seeing as there is no Amazon Prime in St. John and certainly no Best Buy, the GoPro was effectively out-of-action. Wanting to still capture pictures of our trip I decided to put Sony's marketing to the test and it live up to it. I took it snorkeling on three different occasions, for upwards of an hour. The attached photos were taken at depths of 5-10 feet and I had the camera submerged at times for longer than hour in saltwater. The only hang-up was taking video. Since you can only use the hardware button to take pictures, I had to surface to start and stop any videos. Not a big deal, just a warning.
My only caveat is...make sure you rinse out your headphone jack. Though it is waterproof, I noticed what looked like some light corrosion after my first day (makes sense, salt water and all). From then on I made sure to rinse it down with some fresh water from a water bottle as soon as I got out of the water. No problems since.
Hope this gives everyone enough confidence to start taking their phone in the shower!
Let me know if you have any questions!
Very cool pics man, thabks for sharig your experience, im still scared to even wash my phone under the sink lol
that is amazing! you should share those pics with Sony Mobile, I'm sure they will publish it and give you some credit. Not sure how many people have done that yet!
Nice photos.
From what Sony says avoid salt water. Despite their advertising showing oceanic photos, here is their warning:
"...we wouldn't recommend using your smartphone, tablet or accessory during a sandstorm or in a hot shower. Never immerse your device in salt water or let the micro USB port, headset jack or other uncovered parts come into contact with salt water. If you're washing dishes by hand, avoid letting your device come into contact with the detergent or any other liquid chemicals."
"Should the phone be submerged in salt water it would need to be washed off in fresh water and if on warranty inspection it was evident that the seals had been damaged by salt/chlorine, warranty would be void."
This guy had it die on him in a pool:
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2014/10/15/4107561.htm
Nice pics! I'm definitely not scared to get mine wet anymore.
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Yeah, I was a little hesitant at first. Lots of quick dunks to see how it went but my confidence grew after the first few attempts went without issue. I had my Nexus 5 with me as a backup, so I figured...worst case scenario I had a backup phone.
I'm not surprised Sony doesn't recommend saltwater. Saltwater basically destroys everything it touches. Having said that, provided that you have all the ports sealed up, saltwater really shouldn't be getting in (besides the headphone jack). Makes me wonder if Sony has some water resistant coating applied to some of the internal components as a failsafe (would be effective against freshwater, but not saltwater).
Either way, I'm now 4 days after my last submersion and am experiencing no issues, so I am pretty pleased with this phone.
Very brave indeed, great pics.
Sony is a joke with it's water resistance comments, because... Hey here is our new waterproof (no it's not) (it's water resistant Sony) that you can't use in any water except a fresh water steam or lake.
Because lets face it, almost all pools contain chlorine, and almost all water around the home contains chlorine, leaving us...???
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since we know for sure that your phone is waterproof, could you please do the following test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
There is a theory that the Z3 has a valve/membrane to adjust for changes in air pressure which makes the pressure go down in that test.
thanks
Finally, I can take my Z3 to sea. Thanks for those picture!
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danw_oz said:
Very brave indeed, great pics.
Sony is a joke with it's water resistance comments, because... Hey here is our new waterproof (no it's not) (it's water resistant Sony) that you can't use in any water except a fresh water steam or lake.
Because lets face it, almost all pools contain chlorine, and almost all water around the home contains chlorine, leaving us...???
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Just take some time and read about ip65 and ip68, sony says that you can take ur z3 to swimming pool which contains chlorine, but you have to clean it witch fresh water after this.
With salt water this is impossible, because, salt makes corride everything that it touches.
Greets, sorry for bad english
abhinav.tella said:
This guy had it die on him in a pool:
http://www.abc.net.au/technology/articles/2014/10/15/4107561.htm
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To be fair, it was a saltwater pool.
Bäcker said:
since we know for sure that your phone is waterproof, could you please do the following test: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3/general/guide-test-waterproofing-water-t2897886
There is a theory that the Z3 has a valve/membrane to adjust for changes in air pressure which makes the pressure go down in that test.
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I actually had read that thread beforehand and downloaded the "Sensor Sense" app which has a barometric pressure reader on it. Sure enough, if I open the MicroUSB port and apply pressure I get no movement on the pressure reading. When closed, the pressure spikes and then tends to even out.
I also ran the app and dunked it under water while running. The reading accurately changed to reflect the water pressure.
In short, I think that test works
Been watching Top Gear in the shower since I got the phone. Scared the **** out of this waiter the other day it was hilarious. He was pouring water in my cup while holding some other plates and he tried to balance out and spilled just a little bit of water on my phone. I pretended to freak out for a second then was like dude... its waterproof all is forgiven. O and I need to set something straight. Water resistant = cant be fully submerged, so the Z3 would definitely be water proof. Honestly best use I have found for this phone so far being water proof is texting/using maps in the rain.
Krustnesis said:
Just take some time and read about ip65 and ip68, sony says that you can take ur z3 to swimming pool which contains chlorine, but you have to clean it witch fresh water after this.
With salt water this is impossible, because, salt makes corride everything that it touches.
Greets, sorry for bad english
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Try reading what I wrote with your bad English, what fresh water are you going to use? tap water also contains chlorine, maybe fresh water from your rain water tank? My comments are highlighting Sony's confusing and conflicting information.
And my pool contains salt and chlorine
So if u have THAT much chlorine in ur fresh water then please forgive me. FRESH WATER means WATER FROM THE TAP. Concentration of chlorine in tap water is infinitesimal.
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So if u have THAT much chlorine in ur fresh water then please forgive me. FRESH WATER means WATER FROM THE TAP. Concentration of chlorine in tap water is infinitesimal.
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My pool does not have much chlorine either, so it is all relative. Same for drinking water, they all have sanitiser in it, unless you have to filter it. And Sony have stated that if they see that salt or chlorine have eaten away at the seals then no warranty, what they haven't offered anyone is what is a safe level of chlorine in the water not to damage the seals.
Despite the deceptive oceanic adverts by Sony, I never really intended to splash this phone. I see water proofing as a plus against accidental spills etc.
I always use soap and water under the tap to clean my Z3 every few days when it gets dirty/fingerprints/etc.
Most people are too chicken with the phone that's actually officially rated waterproof. My year old Z1 been through lakes and pools and I didn't even bother wash it after chlorine water and it still looks like new. I do agree that you have to rinse after salt water.
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. The only hang-up was taking video. Since you can only use the hardware button to take pictures, I had to surface to start and stop any videos. Not a big deal, just a warning.
Let me know if you have any questions!
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To use the camera underwater you have to enable "Touch Screen Lock" in the camera settings. Then use the physical camera button to snap pictures and the volume rocker to shoot video.
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hi, dear all
I want to ask a simple but important question, does any one ever put Samsung S8 into water for over one hour test?
how about its waterproof function?
Samsung STATES that the phone is water resistant not water proof. The phone it self can be used under water but for 15 minutes and 1 and a half meter depth. I wouldn't use it underwater for more than 5 minutes. I mean consider yourself underwater for more than 5 minutes holding your phone. Its kind of impossible and if you actually do it you go against Samsung's guideline. Don't risk your phone for silly videos. Not worth it
not for this long because I dont need to test this myself - enough youtube vids for that
every now and then I put it under water or rinse under the water tap to clean my device - no problem so far
FloM94 said:
not for this long because I dont need to test this myself - enough youtube vids for that
every now and then I put it under water or rinse under the water tap to clean my device - no problem so far
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There's always the small chance of water getting through especially as you use the device over few months with some deterioration. Just check your sim tray seal and make sure it's all good. And remember water damage isn't covered under warranty. Enjoy it anyway you like.
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I would not put it under water under any circustance.
Jesus lol why would you do this. It is there in case of an accident, not to try and dunk for something to do. I guess maybe if you have lots of money and don't care about having to buy another one.
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Samsung STATES that the phone is water resistant not water proof. The phone it self can be used under water but for 15 minutes and 1 and a half meter depth. I wouldn't use it underwater for more than 5 minutes. I mean consider yourself underwater for more than 5 minutes holding your phone. Its kind of impossible and if you actually do it you go against Samsung's guideline. Don't risk your phone for silly videos. Not worth it
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so it means if i drop it into water, i pick it up wihin 15 minutes, then it will not harm to my phone, right?
FloM94 said:
not for this long because I dont need to test this myself - enough youtube vids for that
every now and then I put it under water or rinse under the water tap to clean my device - no problem so far
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haha, it sounds like washing clothes, i just worry when i take photo on a river or sea, if it is drop into water, i hope i took it up and no problem at all
crixley said:
Jesus lol why would you do this. It is there in case of an accident, not to try and dunk for something to do. I guess maybe if you have lots of money and don't care about having to buy another one.
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oh, no no no, just because i think it is too expensive, so i will imagine if bad things happen, how will it be terrible
bushako said:
There's always the small chance of water getting through especially as you use the device over few months with some deterioration. Just check your sim tray seal and make sure it's all good. And remember water damage isn't covered under warranty. Enjoy it anyway you like.
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you mean if i drop my phone not on purpose, the seller will not give warranty?
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so it means if i drop it into water, i pick it up wihin 15 minutes, then it will not harm to my phone, right?
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I personally used it even at the beach. No harm done. Have it in mind that the 1.5m is pressure related so pressure is the main issue here not depth itself. So be careful on how you position your phone in the water and by all means don't apply in unnecessary pressure on the phone like diving and holding your phone or throwing the phone in the water from a height etc. Its all about usage.
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you mean if i drop my phone not on purpose, the seller will not give warranty?
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Just remember that the phone was tested and certified for 1.5M at 30minutes under a very controlled environment. When you take it out and about in a pool or beach or under a faucet there's many factors that could lead to water entering into sensitive components. The speaker and Mic grill/mesh is still semi permeable and enough pressure from a faucet or even steam can pass through and accumulate.
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bushako said:
Just remember that the phone was tested and certified for 1.5M at 30minutes under a very controlled environment. When you take it out and about in a pool or beach or under a faucet there's many factors that could lead to water entering into sensitive components. The speaker and Mic grill/mesh is still semi permeable and enough pressure from a faucet or even steam can pass through and accumulate.
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oh, thank you for explaination
Also, the water they use it supposedly "pure" water. Most water we have around us has extra chemicals in it...
Most tap waters have chlorine in it and some other chemicals (like flouride) though this is dependant on location.
Sea water has salts in it.
Over time the rubber seal that makes these phones IP68 rated WILL deteriorate. This can be sped up by these additives in the waters around us...
Just a heads up....
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Also, the water they use it supposedly "pure" water. Most water we have around us has extra chemicals in it...
Most tap waters have chlorine in it and some other chemicals (like flouride) though this is dependant on location.
Sea water has salts in it.
Over time the rubber seal that makes these phones IP68 rated WILL deteriorate. This can be sped up by these additives in the waters around us...
Just a heads up....
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oh, very good advice