Experience with heating of the S4 - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello XDA,
I decided to open this topic as I've been fumbling around with my device alot lately. Lately I've started to notice a dramatic increase of temperature while using my device running simple tasks like chrome, whatsapp etc. This only sometimes gets the device till 45-50 degrees Celsius, this is the CPU's temperature. While gaming, it reaches a whopping 60C ! Flashed to stock, updated to new base, reboot after reboot did not solve this issue. While charging sometimes it gets really really hot!
Now I'm wondering about your experiences, how hot does your CPU get doing what tasks? I'm wondering because im contemplating whether or not bring my device in to a service center as I've never had a device CPU above 45 degrees celsius.

Stefan0vic said:
Hello XDA,
I decided to open this topic as I've been fumbling around with my device alot lately. Lately I've started to notice a dramatic increase of temperature while using my device running simple tasks like chrome, whatsapp etc. This only sometimes gets the device till 45-50 degrees Celsius, this is the CPU's temperature. While gaming, it reaches a whopping 60C ! Flashed to stock, updated to new base, reboot after reboot did not solve this issue. While charging sometimes it gets really really hot!
Now I'm wondering about your experiences, how hot does your CPU get doing what tasks? I'm wondering because im contemplating whether or not bring my device in to a service center as I've never had a device CPU above 45 degrees celsius.
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I've also getting heated very badly just by simply just browsing even with screen at minimum, I've owned Galaxy s2 s3 s4 and all seems to heat very much, smh maybe it's just Samsung
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dorian2kx said:
I've also getting heated very badly just by simply just browsing even with screen at minimum, I've owned Galaxy s2 s3 s4 and all seems to heat very much, smh maybe it's just Samsung
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I've always wondered if more users experienced the same issue, now i'm doubting whether or not even to send it to samsung or not. Any more people are more than welcome to share their experiences

Anyone else?
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I think its normal.
Does your phone start to lag when it gets hot? If not, then in my opinion you are still safe.

Same here, but I only realized it was heating last month. Maybe it has something to do with a background process? Sometimes I can even feel the heat when my phone is in my pocket

It doesnt lag, but it does heat up ALOT while doing light tasks, up to 50C
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I have exactly the same issue
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Same
Same Here!

No heating issues whatsoever.
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Sameer, not even while gaming? Sure you don't have a very big case on your phone?
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My S4 heats up on charge with any battery.
I found mine goes really hot on charge than heat goes down on trickle charge.

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Galaxy S II very hot

Hi.Is it just my S2 get hot when I play games or use GPS? Especially at the top around the camera.
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Normal.
Yep, very normal. However I did find that using GPS really heated things up... next hottest is games
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same here
I had similar issue this morning. Listened to music then watched a video (20 minutes) on morning commute and device got very warm, felt it in my pocket. it soon cooled down but still a bit conerning....
arii1986 said:
Yep, very normal. However I did find that using GPS really heated things up... next hottest is games ...
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probably using that particular GPS software, not just GPS antenna by itself?
does it heat up if you just display GMaps with your location, without doing anything heavy in GMaps? Because I did not notice that much heat coming from using light GPS apps. Gaming - yes, some of those games are killers.
I am using Navigon software. I played Angry Birth and the same,phone was hot after 5min. I know is normal that phone is warm, but this is not warm,but hot.Galaxy S was cold compare to S II.
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Of course it's NOT normal. Might be normal for SGS2 but not for others. as I've said on another thread, Navigating with GPS driving it got to 60C, you could slowly cook an egg at 60C.
Mine doesn't get especially warm, It gets well 4-5 degrees warmer when I browse the web or watch HD movies
It's think it's high screen brightness in combination with SW (high CPU load)!
Mine is never warm if brightness is kept below 50%
My screen brightnes is 0%. It is hot at the top where is CPU I gues.
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Could rooted phone be warmer than unrooted phone?
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How many degrees celsius is taken as very hot on the Galaxy S II?.
I was overclocking my Galaxy S II earlier and my temprature was up to 46 degrees celsius when i was running a stress test on the phone.
So i just stopped my stress test of the phone then.
How did you measure temperature?I have just battery temp. it is 42.
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shawt said:
How did you measure temperature?I have just battery temp. it is 42.
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You can download the same stress test program as i'm using from Android Market. It's called StabilityTest v1.5.
it will test your CPU's on your Galaxy S II if you are overclocking it. But you can check the temprature even if you aren't overclocking.
the temp rise is sort of random, i can play games for hours (and its 26C here) with brightness on auto and so on, it doesnt get hot
then suddenly, it does, sometimes even when im not doing much
didnt get the time to pin point w/e thing creates that behavior
(and when i say hot ofc im talking of very very hot - which is what everyone talks about imo)
killall or restart and its good to go til it happens again
Tom-Helge said:
How many degrees celsius is taken as very hot on the Galaxy S II?.
I was overclocking my Galaxy S II earlier and my temprature was up to 46 degrees celsius when i was running a stress test on the phone.
So i just stopped my stress test of the phone then.
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I'm running that app now. I wanted to get an idea of temperatures at stock before undervolting/clocking so I could see how much difference it made. But the phone is seriously hot to the touch, enough to be worrying about. The app's reporting 50C after 37min but it feels hotter than that to me.
Some components are designed to run hot. For example I have an ATI 4850 that happily runs 70+C at idle is rated for up to 120C. But I'm worried even if the exynos can handle these temps what about the other components? The top of the screen feels even hotter back. Could this cause damage to the display for example?
This is my first smart phone but having that much heat in such a tightly packed device seems like a recipe for failure.
You will find temps of 50 deg centigrade and more when using all resources of SGS II (e.g. nav with wikitude drive = camera on) and phone attached to car screen on a sunny hot day.
This is normal!
Touch a nav-device in action and You will find it glowing ......
But contrary to HTC HD 2 SGS II does not freeze or crash at that point.
Leave a device switched off in direct sunlight in a car and it will get hot too, but still it will work .....
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my phone was getting extremely hot when benchmarking etc, this was default clock and voltages.
the phone reported it was reaching 50 degrees. thought this was "normal". this was on the firmware the phone was running outta the box.
flashed latest firmware and have since messed about with overclocking, @ 1650 my phone never got as hot as it did stock.
so if you have not done it, flash the latest FW...
So your cpu is not 1200 but 1650mHz now?
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Been running tons of different ROMs on tons of different Android devices, and every once in a while there is a particular combo that gets tremendously hot.
Once had my N1 get so hot while using Co-Pilot Live and Spotify while plugged into a car charger, that it turned off and wouldn't come on again for some 5-10 minutes.. Definitely worrying.. Switched ROMs and never saw the problem again.

Bettery problem

Hi, my sgs2 really heats up after 10 min of browsing or playing games .. is anyone else having the same problem if yes does any one know any solutions for it .. any help would be much appreciated ...
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It's amazing how electronics get warm when they have billions of dancing electrons flowing through them! Who would have known that electric current would create heat!
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Hi, my sgs2 really heats up after 10 min of browsing or playing games .. is anyone else having the same problem if yes does any one know any solutions for it .. any help would be much appreciated ...
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When I use it intensively, for a couple hours it sure heats up, but not after 10 minutes
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How do you even state heat up without mentioning the temp?
Have a basic idea, based on an ambient of 30°C,
Charging- 50-55°C,
Charging+ Gaming- 55-60/62°C,
Normal Use for more than an hour with WiFi On- 40-45°C,
Moderate Use for half an hour- 35-40°C,
Standby for half an hour- Below 35°C.
That's just an overall idea I tried to input.
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ithehappy said:
How do you even state heat up without mentioning the temp?
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This. Give us some temps of normal and when gaming to see if it is abnormal (there are apps on the market that allow you to do this). Chances are, it isn't. The phone has to use more power to run games and processor intensive applications. It getting warmer is normal.
when i fap i mean use my hand in a productive manner, it heats up (inside joke from irc chat last night)

[Q] Samsung Gt-i9505 62 celsius :/? battery.. etc.. HELP

Hey
Now. i know this has been asked alot before etc.. but i havent found my answer so im making my own thread and providing some information on my device
I got my Sgs4 a few days ago and ive been hitting temps of up to 60-62 ...
My questions.
a) These high temperatures, erh... arent they killing(not draining.killing) the battery? cuz i recently read Li-ion shouldent get above 40?
b) Is there ANY fix for this without root?
c) Should i rma it when its hitting such high temps? or will i just get a device where the same thing happends..?.
d) Would this possibly be fixable with a future software update?
Now, here's some information
Before the s4 i had s3 and i remember it being hot and shutting off in the first months i had it, but a update solved it. Buuut unlucky as i am i broke it :/ so i bought the s4.
My s4 is the quadcore Snapdragon 600.
I've done/gotten 0 software updates.
I've tried dissabling some programs (look attachments)
I've used power saving mode. still gets hot.
I've tried rebooting
I've tried changing the Micro sdhc and tried removing it completely too.
The only thing i found helpful was laying the phone on top of my pc fan :/..
Ive attached some pictures with my specs etc..
The temp was recorded using '' #*0228# '' code
Hopefully some awesome person will help me
Images are posted by Om22 lower in post number 6 because i cant add em myself
amd62 said:
Hey
Now. i know this has been asked alot before etc.. but i havent found my answer so im making my own thread and providing some information on my device
I got my Sgs4 a few days ago and ive been hitting temps of up to 60-62 ...
My questions.
a) These high temperatures, erh... arent they killing(not draining.killing) the battery? cuz i recently read Li-ion shouldent get above 40?
b) Is there ANY fix for this without root?
c) Should i rma it when its hitting such high temps? or will i just get a device where the same thing happends..?.
d) Would this possibly be fixable with a future software update?
Now, here's some information
Before the s4 i had s3 and i remember it being hot and shutting off in the first months i had it, but a update solved it. Buuut unlucky as i am i broke it :/ so i bought the s4.
My s4 is the quadcore Snapdragon 600.
I've done/gotten 0 software updates.
I've tried dissabling some programs (look attachments)
I've used power saving mode. still gets hot.
I've tried rebooting
I've tried changing the Micro sdhc and tried removing it completely too.
The only thing i found helpful was laying the phone on top of my pc fan :/..
Ive attached some pictures with my specs etc..
The temp was recorded using '' #*0228# '' code
Hopefully some awesome person will help me
I cant link to my images yet :/ working on it
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is your back of the phone really hot? because temp. sensors of batteries are often faulty.
om22 said:
is your back of the phone really hot? because temp. sensors of batteries are often faulty.
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Yep. it was around the 60 degress.. i mean it felt like that so i doub theyre faulty :/
Dont whorry my i9500 gets to hot i mean very hot i cant make call im in wanam rom but still hot not like the first i think but still hot now i can make calls
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rida007 said:
Dont whorry my i9500 gets to hot i mean very hot i cant make call im in wanam rom but still hot not like the first i think but still hot now i can make calls
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Its not because the heat. it doesnt bother me. Its because im afraid of it damaging the internal stuff AND ruining the battery :/
The OP asked me if i could put his pics here because he has not enough posts for using links.
so here are the pics, which belong to the first Post.
still no fixes ?
60c i think it's processor. At 60c battery your phone will be shutdown, danger there.
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The attached pictures show The reading... Still 60 C processor seems very high for a Phone?
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I am Also getting 20500 in antutu instead of The average 24800..this really concerns me?
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Here is my temperature recorded right after benchmark. Im sure it could get higher with longer usage :-\
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mist813 said:
Here is my temperature recorded right after benchmark. Im sure it could get higher with longer usage :-\
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what was your score?
Around 24000 first time, Around 21000 second time just after
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Check in the battery stats if an app is consuming allot of battery and disable it.
Check using some cpu monitoring app like watchdog if some process is running high cpu cycles
Check if in flight mode the phone heats up. If not maybe wifi or radio transmitter is working hard.
Check if your reception is good or not in battery stats when clicking on the graph. Should be green if good yellow if bad.
Worse case replace your unit with warrenty...
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Check in the battery stats if an app is consuming allot of battery and disable it. Nope. none
Check using some cpu monitoring app like watchdog if some process is running high cpu cycles Im using CPU spy. doesnt seem like there is any
Check if in flight mode the phone heats up. If not maybe wifi or radio transmitter is working hard. Will try this
Check if your reception is good or not in battery stats when clicking on the graph. Should be green if good yellow if bad.reception is good
Worse case replace your unit with warrenty...
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seilat said:
Check in the battery stats if an app is consuming allot of battery and disable it.
Check using some cpu monitoring app like watchdog if some process is running high cpu cycles
Check if in flight mode the phone heats up. If not maybe wifi or radio transmitter is working hard.
Check if your reception is good or not in battery stats when clicking on the graph. Should be green if good yellow if bad.
Worse case replace your unit with warrenty...
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btw i see youve got the same device. Havent you felt any heat from the backsite under the camera?
Still no firmware for me =(
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Nope. At least not when idle or regular use. When playing hd games sure. Like my previous s3.
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How do i check the temp? Do i need an app?
So far based on my observations my phone heats up when playing games. As for surfing it heats up more if you use LTE/4g. when the connection icon changes to H it doesnt heat up as much when in 4g.
My workaround so far is when my screen is off, it auto shuts down all connections by using a profile manager app. No push notifications though but it does save up my battery and avoid heating. Im still waiting for an update that fixes this overheating issue. sucks to not be able to use push just for the sake of the phone not heating up...
*EDIT: nvm i figured the code out from the OP. mine reached 55c
Zymesh said:
How do i check the temp? Do i need an app?
So far based on my observations my phone heats up when playing games. As for surfing it heats up more if you use LTE/4g. when the connection icon changes to H it doesnt heat up as much when in 4g.
My workaround so far is when my screen is off, it auto shuts down all connections by using a profile manager app. No push notifications though but it does save up my battery and avoid heating. Im still waiting for an update that fixes this overheating issue. sucks to not be able to use push just for the sake of the phone not heating up...
*EDIT: nvm i figured the code out from the OP. mine reached 55c
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type *#0228# on the keyboard. at the top it shows network state, then battery state and temperature, at the bottom it says "external thermistor" and that's the phone temperature. my s4 heats up to 50° just by browsing xda app, 65° when watching youtube. sometimes can't even touch the space under the camera it's so hot.
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Help am s4 heating up

while playing games my phone is heating up is it normal ?
What kind of games?
Yes. It is normal.
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Simple with 30mb game it heats up like anything i have a option to replace the phone should i go for it ?
Ya mine heats up with just normal stuff. I don't play games on mine.
It cools down after a bit of non use, but it makes me wonder being as my Note 2 didn't get warm if I should exchange mine also.
mine only gets hot when i am charging it from the wall charger. the charger plugged into the wall is hot when i touch it also. doesnt get hot when charging from pc.
Overheating and throttling was big issue on Korean tech community/blog S4 reviews (exynos variant). Sammy responded immediately and released new firmware like a week later. It solved everything, way lower temperature and even faster. I think something with Touchwiz or driver related thing got messed up and casuing problem.
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so what should i do
Throw it on the floor and run for safety! Lol
No dont do that. That's normal I had the same problem with my s3. Get this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sanels.tempcpuv2
If it goes above 40 degrees Celsius return the phone.usually 30 degrees is normal while not doing anything
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_MrAwesome_ said:
Throw it on the floor and run for safety! Lol
No dont do that. That's normal I had the same problem with my s3. Get this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sanels.tempcpuv2
If it goes above 40 degrees Celsius return the phone.usually 30 degrees is normal while not doing anything
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Hi all.
I create i file to find a common cause because i think that not all s4 have this problem.
Compile this form if you want help us.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aom5-WSBReGqdDhqWTJYWGRLSVZnZGE1WVgzdzVHaGc&usp=sharing
Is in italian, with google translate is easy to understand what you have to insert.
I hope to receive help from this powerful forum.
Share this ink with other forum if you can
Thank you!
_MrAwesome_ said:
Throw it on the floor and run for safety! Lol
No dont do that. That's normal I had the same problem with my s3. Get this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sanels.tempcpuv2
If it goes above 40 degrees Celsius return the phone.usually 30 degrees is normal while not doing anything
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40 is extremely low of a temperature in my experience. Even on AOSP which is less demanding than TW, I run at ~50. Even had it up at about 68 when driving with screen on while using navigation.
Hi all.
I create i file to find a common cause because i think that not all s4 have this problem.
Compile this form if you want help us.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aom5-WSBReGqdDhqWTJYWGRLSVZnZGE1WVgzdzVHaGc&usp=sharing
Is in italian, with google translate is easy to understand what you have to insert.
I hope to receive help from this powerful forum.
Share this ink with other forum if you can
Thank you!
CamFlawless said:
40 is extremely low of a temperature in my experience. Even on AOSP which is less demanding than TW, I run at ~50. Even had it up at about 68 when driving with screen on while using navigation.
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talking 40 Celsius
_MrAwesome_ said:
talking 40 Celsius
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As am I. I'm only streaming music via bluetooth and I'm sitting at 45 Celsius. Like I said, I was at 65+ when navigating via gps with the screen on.
I definitely don't need to return my device either.

Does This Phone Get Hot?

I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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This phone is really hot even when you are looking at it with screen turned off.. I hope you understand what i mean
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appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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Mine hasn't gotten to hot.
Those reporting this problem are probably a minority of all nexus 4 owners.
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Yes the phone does get hot sometimes especially after 10-15 mins of continuously browsing the web on 3G+ or 3G and after 15-20 mins on wifi.. But that's for stock 4.2.2 and 4.3. After undervolting and underclocking the device using custom kernels and ROMs the phone does not get very hot.. It's between 37-40 even after playing games like nova 3 and nfs mw for an hour if you hold the phone with your bare hands and it obviously depends on your configuration.
appro77 said:
I've read lots of comment about the N4 getting hot under normal use. Is this still the case or has the issue been addressed. I'm seriously considering buying this phone but I don't want a phone that gets hot.
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Thin glassy phone + powerfull cpu = heat Nothing to worry about.
It gets hot, at least on stock firmware, although my definition of hot might be more sensitive than others. I don't know what it would be like talking on the phone for an hour with it getting hot next to your face, although I haven't done that. I have to use custom rom and underclock the cpu a bit, so it's not an really issue anymore. I probably will get flamed for this, but I don't recommend this device to you if you don't like phones getting hot. But I guess lots of these newer flagship phones that has thin plastic casing probably gets hot too.
With normal usage the phone doesn't get too hot or anything. If you are fond of overclocking and disabling thermal throttle you will get pretty high temperature's. Around 70 degrees celcius.
It get's hot as any other phone but because it has got a glass back you feel the heat better.
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It didn't feel warm at all after undervolting and limiting heat using Trickster Mod (and has been yundervolted for the past 3 months).
Before that it could sometimes get really hot though.
Yes very hot, don't buy it.
meangreenie said:
Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Yes it gets very hot but the thing is you can still use it without getting very hot if you play games then yes it will get hot.
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Andre_Vitto said:
Yes it gets very hot but the thing is you can still use it without getting very hot if you play games then yes it will get hot.
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meangreenie said:
Yes very hot, don't buy it.
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Is your phone undervolted and temprature limited?
My temprature never goes over 40 degrees celsius, and feels rather cold most of the time.
Even with rather intensive games like NFS Most Wanted
This phone will not burn you. There isn't a real reason to consider the heat a problem. The temperature of the phone is regulated by the kernel, if it gets too hot the kernel takes measures to reduce the amount of heat being produced. This is a non issue.

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