I'm not sure why, the .apk file for towelroot refused to run/launch and was complaining about some kind of parsing error. Since it's a binary a generic parse error was not all that useful in attempting to debug what was happening. I tried downloading it a couple separate time and transferring it over to the phone again, but same problem. And same problem running it from either the internal phone storage or my external microSD card.
So ... I then used the odin and CF-Auto-Root (instructions at http://www.ibtimes.com/how-root-sam...42-kitkat-using-cf-auto-root-tutorial-1577576) and got it working first try, perfect!
The only issue I find is that when I launch Super SU it ALWAYS asks about whether it should try to suppress Samsung Knox every time I open the app, and I always say cancel, and it's successful. Apps don't encounter this problem once you set Super SU to have a default action of "Grant" superuser permission.
Hmm... strange, I was able to use TowelRoot on my Sprint GS5. On both nd8 and ne5 firmwares with no issues
Might as well take it all the way with cf root anyway. Only reason not to really would be if its a company supplied phone where they check on knox status. Towel root is awesome, but msde for people who have a reason to worry about knox, or for those with a locked bootloader. Sprint is wide open so why not take advantage.
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miked63017 said:
Might as well take it all the way with cf root anyway. Only reason not to really would be if its a company supplied phone where they check on knox status. Towel root is awesome, but msde for people who have a reason to worry about knox, or for those with a locked bootloader. Sprint is wide open so why not take advantage.
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The other reason is if you'd like to keep your warranty intact.
Knox trip = no longer covered by warranty, only insurance claim with deductible.
That said, for those with ERP it's hit or miss if the sprint store will check the knox flag if doing swap, but Samsung direct warranty generally does.
It also might be that users don't care to run another rom.
I'm fine on the stock rom, I rooted, and removed all the bloat and can basically do all the same tweaks.
I have custom PRL, icons etc. and my piece of mind for warranty
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The other reason is if you'd like to keep your warranty intact.
Knox trip = no longer covered by warranty, only insurance claim with deductible.
That said, for those with ERP it's hit or miss if the sprint store will check the knox flag if doing swap, but Samsung direct warranty generally does.
It also might be that users don't care to run another rom.
I'm fine on the stock rom, I rooted, and removed all the bloat and can basically do all the same tweaks.
I have custom PRL, icons etc. and my piece of mind for warranty
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Warrenty is a reason to worry about knox, I have been pretty lucky in regards to turning in phones on warrenty. The one main drawback I would see with towel root is that there would be extra hoops to jump through to install things since you cant do a custom recovery. Not a problem for those with experience, but can trip up people who are not used to linux/android cli tasks. Look at the questions asked in these forums about issues with flashing zips, imagine supporting people with no tech background to do tasks from the cli or a file explorer. It would be cool if someone made a recovery apk for flashing zips from inside android, it might even already exist but I wouldnt know since I alwsys fully root and use custom recovery. I dont use roms so much, but flashable zips is a huge convenience IMO.
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The other reason is if you'd like to keep your warranty intact.
Knox trip = no longer covered by warranty, only insurance claim with deductible
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Wrong.
Hardware is still covered with Knox tripped if it's for hardware. At least at my local store(s) and from what I have read on xda it seems to be the same all over.
The legend of the Knox warranty lives on. I've seen posts were people had knox tripped and their devices were still covered for "hardware" issues so I'm not concerned. I was talking to a Samsung rep today about rooting my s5!!!
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I am trying to root my Sprint S5, without success. I have tried pretty much every free route, apk included, to no avail. I use mac and linux, so Odin is out. Anyone know something that works? I apologize if this is answered in another thread, but I have not seen it anywhere here, so far.
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Ok so I live in Canada, and I plan on buying an unlocked Galaxy Note 3 from Rogers in December. I currently have a Galaxy S3 and it is rooted no triangle on boot or anything like that, so I am happy with my GS3 for now. Is it worth rooting the Note 3 when I get it? Will a giant orange triangle appear everytime I reboot the device? I plan on waiting about a month before I root it, if I do root it. I am not to worried about my warranty as I have never had to use a warranty on a phone before.
You wont see anything other than your model number & samsung logo during booting but you'll see some sort of knox warranty void 0x1 in download mode which means your phone is using custom kernel.
Whether it's worth to root or not i think it depends on you. Myself root my phone on the first day i own it after make sure i dont need the warranty. I dont care about the knox 0x1. Just cant stand with the stock look.
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You wont see anything other than your model number & samsung logo during booting but you'll see some sort of knox warranty void 0x1 in download mode which means your phone is using custom kernel.
Whether it's worth to root or not i think it depends on you. Myself root my phone on the first day i own it after make sure i dont need the warranty. I dont care about the knox 0x1. Just cant stand with the stock look.
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AdFree is a must for me on any phone I own, I was more worried about having a giant orange triangle on the Samsung splash screen like other devices. Or knox doing something to the phone after I rooted it.
rooting has been worthwhile for me
Titanium Backup is awesome in getting rid of the bloatware
Greenify is great in making sure apps do not stay awake
Xposed Framework is awesome in installing modules that add much functionality
-Instagram Photo Download
-Wanam Xposed
-Xposed Additions (Longpress Back to Open Recent Apps, etc)
Cheating in games with game killer can't be done without root.
And since I spent $5 of real money, and you can't transfer the credits over to my new phone, I'm going to cheat.
So if you feel like I do, and feel cheated, cheat yourself the money with game killer and get root.
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You wont see anything other than your model number & samsung logo during booting but you'll see some sort of knox warranty void 0x1 in download mode which means your phone is using custom kernel.
Whether it's worth to root or not i think it depends on you. Myself root my phone on the first day i own it after make sure i dont need the warranty. I dont care about the knox 0x1. Just cant stand with the stock look.
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This. I rooted and xposed my note to change the colour scheme but even if you like Everyrhing about touchwiz, it is worth it to be able to use any app in multiwindow.
Rooting
Iam just scared about the flash counter
Not rooted as I can get the look and feel using nova or apex. Rooted my SGN2 but missed some of the special samsung stuff.
May change when there is a stable 4.4 if samsung take their time. Just my 2c
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I thought there is a root method without tripping the Knox counter >> "de la Vega" and kingo. right?
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Dont use kingo its a spy app
YES IT IS WORTH
Remove bloat
-> increase free RAM
-> 1.5 times the battery time
Leave a 'Thanks' if i helped you
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Killberty said:
Dont use kingo its a spy app...
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Don't believe everything you read. It's amazing how speculation and rumors turn into "fact" in this forum...especially if it's negative.
I recommend that people do their own, in depth research and them make an educated decision.
if u r not worried about warranty
if u r not worried about warranty it is always better to root cos you get so much more options to play around with which you wouldnt have otherwise
Depends what you want to do, Do you need root? - Do you need to remove apps? - Like choosing something, it's all personal preference... If you need root then root your phone, If you can live without it and don't need it. Then don't.
I still haven't rooted mine.
rooted mine from day 1 too. Mostly for my sixaxis app, controller support for my games
OT: plus i think it is worth it; with root you can get another, better and more optimized, rom.
I still believe if you have to ask you don't need it....
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I still believe if you have to ask you don't need it....
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Agreed. I have always rooted my devices but take my time to read with each new device since they're all a bit different. I'm curious if I root with the knox free setting if I can revert fully to stock or only fake non custom status. What's the best method to use for Canadian variant of note 3?
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Agreed. I have always rooted my devices but take my time to read with each new device since they're all a bit different. I'm curious if I root with the knox free setting if I can revert fully to stock or only fake non custom status. What's the best method to use for Canadian variant of note 3?
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Have reverted back to fully official once stock rom was flashed. Only modified status when rooted as you can't run the fake "official" status as wanam needs root priveleges...
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Have reverted back to fully official once stock rom was flashed. Only modified status when rooted as you can't run the fake "official" status as wanam needs root priveleges...
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:good:
Just to confirm, I can use Root de la Vega and enjoy all the benefits of rooting without tripping KNOX, but can still reflash (via odin?) the stock rom and be back to factory/warranty settings with STOCK STATUS? That's all I'm interested in at this point, no custom roms or recoveries.
Thanks again for your help! I am just extra cautious :fingers-crossed:
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:good:
Just to confirm, I can use Root de la Vega and enjoy all the benefits of rooting without tripping KNOX, but can still reflash (via odin?) the stock rom and be back to factory/warranty settings with STOCK STATUS? That's all I'm interested in at this point, no custom roms or recoveries.
Thanks again for your help! I am just extra cautious :fingers-crossed:
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yes you just have to unroot using the supersu itself, then flash your stock rom with odin, factory reset. everything will be stock new. even status will revert from custom to official.
Hi everyone, I have about 7 days left on my "14 day return policy" from the Sprint store. I love XDA and it's been a HUGE help to me in the last few years. I like the phone, it's pretty snappy, and the camera is great. But I can't use a phone without root (who can??) and eventually Samsung will stop pushing updates to this phone so I'm going to need to flash custom ROMs (cyanogenmod did wonders on my last phone, the Galaxy S1). I also know that I can't mount SMB or CFS shares without flashing a kernel that supports it and I'm not sure if the S4's official firmware supports the ability to do so (which I believe requires root anyway, so I guess I answered my own question.
I have a couple of questions about the S4 that I'm hoping someone who has experience can tell me about this.
1) Can I root using VRoot and NOT trip the Knox warranty bit?
2) After rooting, can I install a recovery (I've read that Philz CWM recovery works but can't find definitive answers on this).
3) Should I even care about the Knox software?
I don't need to use the phone in an enterprise environment, but I also don't want the phone's bootloader locked to Samsung firmwares if it means I won't be able to install custom FW's or kernels.
Should I return the phone? I'll pay the $35 restocking fee just to save myself from having to deal with Samsung's (and this my opinion) bonehead move of abandoning its developer userbase.
Any and all responses would be appreciated. Thanks for reading and helping!
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Hi everyone, I have about 7 days left on my "14 day return policy" from the Sprint store. I love XDA and it's been a HUGE help to me in the last few years. I like the phone, it's pretty snappy, and the camera is great. But I can't use a phone without root (who can??) and eventually Samsung will stop pushing updates to this phone so I'm going to need to flash custom ROMs (cyanogenmod did wonders on my last phone, the Galaxy S1). I also know that I can't mount SMB or CFS shares without flashing a kernel that supports it and I'm not sure if the S4's official firmware supports the ability to do so (which I believe requires root anyway, so I guess I answered my own question.
I have a couple of questions about the S4 that I'm hoping someone who has experience can tell me about this.
1) Can I root using VRoot and NOT trip the Knox warranty bit?
2) After rooting, can I install a recovery (I've read that Philz CWM recovery works but can't find definitive answers on this).
3) Should I even care about the Knox software?
I don't need to use the phone in an enterprise environment, but I also don't want the phone's bootloader locked to Samsung firmwares if it means I won't be able to install custom FW's or kernels.
Should I return the phone? I'll pay the $35 restocking fee just to save myself from having to deal with Samsung's (and this my opinion) bonehead move of abandoning its developer userbase.
Any and all responses would be appreciated. Thanks for reading and helping!
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I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!
jejb said:
I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!
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This is just a thought... but... check your phone, when I got mine not too long back it still came with 4.2 on it. If yours still has 4.2 you wouldn't have to worry about knox as long as you didn't take the OTA. You could root it and rom it all you wanted.
Yes you should return the phone. That way you **** all the people who return their phones for legitimate warranty/insurance reasons with higher costs.
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Yes you should return the phone. That way you **** all the people who return their phones for legitimate warranty/insurance reasons with higher costs.
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I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
jejb said:
I am not worried about the Knox bit. Mine is tripped and it's not preventing anything, AFAIK. I can still install Sammy firmwares, ROM's that are at the correct version/level, mods, apps, etc. It seems it's really only a flag for enterprise users. I agree it kind of sucks, and I'm not a fan of it, but it doesn't seem to be causing any real harm at this point warranty or service wise. Some say it may prevent Samsung from honoring the warranty, but I'm not sure that's true, based on reading the forums.
As far as Samsung stopping pushing firmwares to this phone, that should be a long way off since this is their flagship smartphone at this point. It's a great phone and I've been very happy with mine, which I got the weekend they were released. Rooted, stock rom, hotspot mod. So much better phone than my old HTC Androids!
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This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!
epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys![/QUOTE
I used an app from thePlayStore called Triangle Away to reset the counter. You have to be rooted, but it works perfectly. Just an FYI.
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epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!
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Dont use vroot. Until some dev can pin point what the chinese root method actually does. And if your on 4.2.2 your ok but once ota to 4.3 then you have knox bootloader meaning you cant downgrade firmwares. It wont stop you from changing kernels and roms. Knox flag just voids your warranty with samsung but if you have insurance with sprint they can care less about it tripped. I updated to 4.3 and tripped the knox amd I havent seen no problems really. Btw please make research this has been talked about lately too much.
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epi4gtn said:
I haven't done any type of rooting or modification to the phone yet. That's the reason I'm asking, I haven't tripped the counter. I'm just aggravated by not having root and being able to remove this crapware. I wouldn't be ****ing anyone. Please don't be a ****.
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys![/QUOTE
I used an app from thePlayStore called Triangle Away to reset the counter. You have to be rooted, but it works perfectly. Just an FYI.
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That only works if your on 4.2. It wont reset the knox bootloader counter.
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epi4gtn said:
This is great news, can you point me to the tool you used to root the phone? I've read the Chinese VRoot method doesn't trip the counter, but installs "Superuser" which can subsequently be removed and replaced with SuperSU. I think using SuperSU and something like DroidWall to monitor the device to make sure nothing fishy is going on will help us determine whether or not VRoot is really malware (I've read comments saying that it's some kind of spyware but I'm not sure of the technical prowess of those commenters).
What recovery are you using to flash custom ROMs?
And as asked in a previous post-- Did you root before taking the OTA? Or did you take the OTA and do you see the Knox Warranty Bit marked as 0x1 in the stock recovery?
Thanks for the replies, appreciate all the info guys!
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Yes, my Knox bit it tripped/set. It is 0x1 on the download screen. Can't view it in recovery. I just used CF Auto Root after going to 4.3. Should be easy to search and find that thread. I'm on the stock rom with tweaks.
Using TWRP recovery, but I've tried several, including Philz and OUDHS. It seems Philz is the flavor of the month, so you might want to go with that just to be safe.
I did not root before taking the OTA. I don't think I'd try it that way. I was rooted, but went back to stock to take the update. If you get back to stock, reset the custom bits on your download screen (triangle away and RTN's seem to do that, but might have to do more than one), recover your apps/data and then take the OTA, it should be the most sure fire method. Then root, custom recovery, nandroid backup and play from there.
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Yes, my Knox bit it tripped/set. It is 0x1 on the download screen. Can't view it in recovery. I just used CF Auto Root after going to 4.3. Should be easy to search and find that thread. I'm on the stock rom with tweaks.
Using TWRP recovery, but I've tried several, including Philz and OUDHS. It seems Philz is the flavor of the month, so you might want to go with that just to be safe.
I did not root before taking the OTA. I don't think I'd try it that way. I was rooted, but went back to stock to take the update. If you get back to stock, reset the custom bits on your download screen (triangle away and RTN's seem to do that, but might have to do more than one), recover your apps/data and then take the OTA, it should be the most sure fire method. Then root, custom recovery, nandroid backup and play from there.
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Thank you, I plan to just use CF-Auto-Root to root the phone. I'm starting to care less about the Knox bit getting tripped.
I came across this post by rawintellect that seems to have everything I'd need out of the phone, rooted/deodexed MK2 with all the bloat removed, BUT it says in the description that the Knox Bootloader is removed *EDIT: After thinking about the statement some more, I think he means the Knox bootloader is NOT included in the rom, but this raises another question, can I install it on a phone WITH the knox bootloader?), so I'm afraid of attempting to flash it because as I understand it, it's impossible to replace the knox bootloader.
Here's the post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48516106
This individual seems to have gotten everything working: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48516106&postcount=88
Do you know if anyone is able to flash Philz through Odin successfully on the MJA/knox bootloader?
I took mine back after I took the OTA. I was honest about why I was returning it, that the firmware introduces restrictions and annoying features (I cited the multiple WiFi security warnings in particular) I was not willing to accept, and the independent store I was dealing with gave me an exchange to a new phone with 4.2. I first asked if they could downgrade the phone to 4.2, including the bootloader, they researched that option, finding it impossible.
If they had not given me the exchange, I would have picked a different color and done it that way.
Try this Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572000
MrTasselhof
Picking up an "un-used" Sprint S4, what software/baseband/bootloader is ideal?
Going to meet person at a Sprint store so I will confirm ESN is clean of course, but person claims phone has not been used so my question is what software/baseband and bootloader is ideal to have?
Basically I want to see if phone is pre Knox and if so I am not going to update it until I read up on here, but I am not sure what versions are pre knox.
Phone will be for my wife and I will be rooting it and I need it to be able to have the hacked/free wifi tether or built in tether, but I will want her to have the latest stock rom.
Thanks
MDC, MDL, and MF9 are the pre Knox. As these are 4.2.2 and below. MJA and MK2 are Knox being 4.3.
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MDC, MDL, and MF9 are the pre Knox. As these are 4.2.2 and below. MJA and MK2 are Knox being 4.3.
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is there any advantage?
You can open the hotspot on any version. All the knox bootloader does is trip the warranty flag so if you root it you want be able to get warranty service from Samsung. In my opinion, the newest firmware just works better than the old. If you're getting a good deal on the phone then it shouldn't matter. Just know that if you root it which you will need to do to hack the hot-spot then you do void the Samsung warranty.
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You can open the hotspot on any version. All the knox bootloader does is trip the warranty flag so if you root it you want be able to get warranty service from Samsung. In my opinion, the newest firmware just works better than the old. If you're getting a good deal on the phone then it shouldn't matter. Just know that if you root it which you will need to do to hack the hot-spot then you do void the Samsung warranty.
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I thought there was a difference w
between the Knox warranty and the Samsung phone warranty for any malfunctions or such.
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You can open the hotspot on any version. All the knox bootloader does is trip the warranty flag so if you root it you want be able to get warranty service from Samsung. In my opinion, the newest firmware just works better than the old. If you're getting a good deal on the phone then it shouldn't matter. Just know that if you root it which you will need to do to hack the hot-spot then you do void the Samsung warranty.
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I did a good amount of reading last night and what I think I have learned is the following:
Rooting MK2 doesn't always stick and I must be using Philz recovery on 4.3, some say CF auto root does work on MK2 but some say it does not. Been reading that there are some wifi issues on 4.3 after flashing/rooting/recovery but not sure exactly what the issue is. Also, not completely sure if I can flash the MJA hotspot mod on MK2, I think one person said it worked but that is all.
I bought the phone used off of CL so I really don't care about warranty because I have no proof of purchase or even original purchase date. I think the guy had his receipt but he did not give it to me. I just don't want any rooting headaches once on the knox bootloader which I have been reading there are a lot of.
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I did a good amount of reading last night and what I think I have learned is the following:
Rooting MK2 doesn't always stick and I must be using Philz recovery on 4.3, some say CF auto root does work on MK2 but some say it does not. Been reading that there are some wifi issues on 4.3 after flashing/rooting/recovery but not sure exactly what the issue is. Also, not completely sure if I can flash the MJA hotspot mod on MK2, I think one person said it worked but that is all.
I bought the phone used off of CL so I really don't care about warranty because I have no proof of purchase or even original purchase date. I think the guy had his receipt but he did not give it to me. I just don't want any rooting headaches once on the knox bootloader which I have been reading there are a lot of.
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Mk2 roots just fine if you use the newest cf-autoroot files. Sometimes you have to install superSU from the play store afterwards but much easier than HTC. There is an MK2 hot spot mod. It is in post #337 in the hot spot mod thread. Also you can use twrp or philz recovery. Just make sure you are on the latest one. As far as WiFi issues. Some experience it some don't. I'd you do them just reinstall the mk2 modem with Odin and it should clear up. Good luck.
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Mk2 roots just fine if you use the newest cf-autoroot files. Sometimes you have to install superSU from the play store afterwards but much easier than HTC. There is an MK2 hot spot mod. It is in post #337 in the hot spot mod thread. Also you can use twrp or philz recovery. Just make sure you are on the latest one. As far as WiFi issues. Some experience it some don't. I'd you do them just reinstall the mk2 modem with Odin and it should clear up. Good luck.
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Thanks for the info, I am thinking that I may just take OTA to MK2 or flash to the latest (I think I just saw a thread that someone posted a flashable Odin file that is just like getting the OTA, Knox and all) and not care if I trip Knox or not.
The only possible reason I may not do this is if I can get insurance on this phone when I activate it on my wifes line (this is why I played the no flash count game on my E4GT). I am not sure if I even want the insurance but if I do then I have to worry about Knox.
Thanks again for the help and especially for the post number for the hot spot mod, that is very helpful.
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Thanks for the info, I am thinking that I may just take OTA to MK2 or flash to the latest (I think I just saw a thread that someone posted a flashable Odin file that is just like getting the OTA, Knox and all) and not care if I trip Knox or not.
The only possible reason I may not do this is if I can get insurance on this phone when I activate it on my wifes line (this is why I played the no flash count game on my E4GT). I am not sure if I even want the insurance but if I do then I have to worry about Knox.
Thanks again for the help and especially for the post number for the hot spot mod, that is very helpful.
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The warranty flag is for warranty, specifically the Samsung factory warranty. It will not affect your ability to use TEP, Assurian, Square Trade, or the Best Buy insurance. Rooting and custom roms have always voided the factory warranty on all manufacturers. In the past, we usually had a way to reset the phone and hide the fact that we rooted it. The Knox flag at this point can not be reset so now Samsung knows you rooted it. As long as you never need a warranty repair you are fine if its tripped.
Hey guys I'm pondering whether or not to root my s5 and I have yet to find THE reason. I'd appreciate it if you took a second to write down if you rooted or not. The pros and cons pertaining the the s5. So far there's only a handfull of roms available, a far cry from the previous, galaxy s forums.
IMO Xposed framework would be the only valid reason but then again is it worth tripping the knox counter and voiding our warranty?
What do you think?
I'm curious to know this also, unless some way is ever discovered to root without tripping Knox, or somehow reset Knox.
The one thing I'd love to do is enable more apps in multi-window. Does anyone know an easy way to do that without root?
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Hi,
I had my device rooted a couple days ago and I could'n be happier. I flashed a custom light ROM and IO have an amazing battery life now. I could last up to 24 hours with 7 hours screen on.
On more thing, you could experience more Android OS when you have your device rooted.
So what is the reason for not rooting your device?
Void warranty, that's really all.
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I'm still unsure if knox is tripped on rooting or if it's when a kernel/rom is flashed. I'd be happy to run a rooted stock rom for adblock and a few other apps that need root.
Very hesitant to lose the warranty on this even though I've beta tested and flashed hundreds of times in the past with other phones and never really worried about warranty as they were pretty much all used handsets.
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I'm still unsure if knox is tripped on rooting or if it's when a kernel/rom is flashed. I'd be happy to run a rooted stock rom for adblock and a few other apps that need root.
Very hesitant to lose the warranty on this even though I've beta tested and flashed hundreds of times in the past with other phones and never really worried about warranty as they were pretty much all used handsets.
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You know that's a good question because I remember being asked a question when I rooted my first s5 about knox. Maybe someone else could answer that one.
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You know that's a good question because I remember being asked a question when I rooted my first s5 about knox. Maybe someone else could answer that one.
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The best way to root, is to remove knox completely if possible, its a stupid POS spyware app, that eats battery and has no purpose for the end user on the Galaxy S5. There is an app called Triangle away or something of the similar sort that can "trick" the phone into appearing that it has not been tampered with if you need to do a warranty.
I am not sure about your specific model, but if the bootloader is unlocked, why dont you flash AllianceROM, or one of the others which by default has knox removed, and root.
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The best way to root, is to remove knox completely if possible, its a stupid POS spyware app, that eats battery and has no purpose for the end user on the Galaxy S5. There is an app called Triangle away or something of the similar sort that can "trick" the phone into appearing that it has not been tampered with if you need to do a warranty.
I am not sure about your specific model, but if the bootloader is unlocked, why dont you flash AllianceROM, or one of the others which by default has knox removed, and root.
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Yeah, good point. Triangle away doesn't reset the knox counter not yet anyway. The thing is I have nothing against knox I appreciate the extra level of security I like the private mode and I like the fact that I can stop the phone from being rooted or reset should it fall into the wrong hands. That's a plus in my book. Furthermore none of the ROMs out that this moment make me wanna root I find that samsung has come a long way since my s2 customization wise. The phone is awesome out of the box IMHO.
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Hey guys I'm pondering whether or not to root my s5 and I have yet to find THE reason. I'd appreciate it if you took a second to write down if you rooted or not. The pros and cons pertaining the the s5. So far there's only a handfull of roms available, a far cry from the previous, galaxy s forums.
IMO Xposed framework would be the only valid reason but then again is it worth tripping the knox counter and voiding our warranty?
What do you think?
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Hi! Some other opinions can be found in his thread (also my answer): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724257
Cheers!
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Hi,
I had my device rooted a couple days ago and I could'n be happier. I flashed a custom light ROM and IO have an amazing battery life now. I could last up to 24 hours with 7 hours screen on.
On more thing, you could experience more Android OS when you have your device rooted.
So what is the reason for not rooting your device?
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Rooting the device might prevent some native apps from functioning such as allshare, screen cast etc...
Root is so good! believe me.:laugh:
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Root is so good! believe me.:laugh:
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Lol. I know. I'm actually convinced now. Screw the warranty LOL...:silly:
As long as you know what you're doing and you're voiding the phone's 1 year waranty with it. Think before you do it because it could never be undone (KNOX 0x1).
I'm leaving my S5 unrooted.
Root! No root, no fun!
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I think as of right now there is no good reason to root the S5....none of the current ROMs are worth breaking the warranty for and we aren't lagging behind the android OS versions that we want urgently catch up to. My advice would be to wait until more advanced rooting methods come around that bypass the knox tripping or until CM, AOKP, AOSP etc ROMS start rolling out or if we get a couple of Android OS versions behind, whichever comes first
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Hey guys I'm pondering whether or not to root my s5 and I have yet to find THE reason. I'd appreciate it if you took a second to write down if you rooted or not. The pros and cons pertaining the the s5. So far there's only a handfull of roms available, a far cry from the previous, galaxy s forums.
IMO Xposed framework would be the only valid reason but then again is it worth tripping the knox counter and voiding our warranty?
What do you think?
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today i ended up rooting because i was going criminally insane not having root, but i ran into a problem where the play store got deleted so i had to go a bit further and flash a new rom. ive had root on every android i have had besides the htc my touch. the features you get with root are so wonderful apps like adaway (most useful app in the history of apps), xposed installer, root browser, and many more that i cant think of yet are so useful that i couldnt live without them any longer. plus you can flash different roms if you love the s5 but hate touchwiz there is a rom for that. you have cm11 aokp crdroid paranoid and aosp to give you a stock experience. true at the moment you can not reset knox and if that is an issue for you then dont root. or.... dunk your phone in water without the cover on lol just kidding i do not recommend doing that. the choice is yours though i know others and i love having root and cant live without it. but there are just as many people who love root but dont want to trip knox. for me i ended up rooting because i found out my carrier does not check if the device is modified or not when you trade in so i just said screw it.take all counts into consideration is root something you need or do you not need some of the features you get with root. simple question is are you a hardcore user or basic user?
IMO, if not rooted, ROMed etc, why come to XDA Developers website, you know what I mean?
I do it first day on all devices, have'nt bricked one yet :silly: not!
I love to tweak the hell out of the device, rid it of bloat, block adds, not to mention the advantages of more regular updates and fixes.
Also if using custom ROM you're getting a ROM that has had many man/team hours spent on it rather than a ROM developed for a commercial mass production, theres a comment above that states "no ROM is worthy of flashing on S5 yet" well I'd like to ask you, how the hell do you know if you have'nt flashed anything yet?
I root my S5 first day and I didn't face any problem with Knox Can someone explain to me why Knox is problem ?
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I root my S5 first day and I didn't face any problem with Knox Can someone explain to me why Knox is problem ?
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Triggering knox will void your warranty without possibility to undo it.
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There are also certain features that may not function after tripping Knox. Additionally most companies won't let you BYOD after Knox trips. Unless they "forget" to check
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I have a question. I have a Verizon Galaxy Note 3. I was wondering if it was possible to flash a custom ROM on my phone If I don't care about tripping Knox after being ignorant and updating to the Official KitKat firmware from Verizon. I've been searching for an answer for this for about a week and I'm not sure if I'm just wording it wrong. The only thing I got close to an answer to this question was someone said that you couldn't do it without tripping knox. I'm guessing that isn't correct being how motivated these phone companies seem to keep their crap installed on my phone. I really don't care about tripping knox and my warranty. I just want to get rid of flipboard and samsung push service off my phone. Can someone please point me in the right direction.
Your problem is you took the official OTA and no one has made a root method that works for it. Plus your bootloader incremented with the update. Which means if you try to flash a lower level one you'll soft brick at a minimum.
Before you took the update you could have rooted and flashed away. Tripping Knox counter only matters if you care to warranty your phone through Verizon or Samsung. If they see the counter at 1x0 or higher they know you've flashed illegal software at least once. They'll deny service. If you don't care. And don't ever intend to warranty or sell the phone. Then you're fine.
However. Like I said. Once you took the update. Unless you were able to keep root using super user survival mode or whatever. You're pretty screwed til someone finds a new exploit.
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Your problem is you took the official OTA and no one has made a root method that works for it. Plus your bootloader incremented with the update. Which means if you try to flash a lower level one you'll soft brick at a minimum.
Before you took the update you could have rooted and flashed away. Tripping Knox counter only matters if you care to warranty your phone through Verizon or Samsung. If they see the counter at 1x0 or higher they know you've flashed illegal software at least once. They'll deny service. If you don't care. And don't ever intend to warranty or sell the phone. Then you're fine.
However. Like I said. Once you took the update. Unless you were able to keep root using super user survival mode or whatever. You're pretty screwed til someone finds a new exploit.
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Thank you for for the reply. That pretty much confirmed what I was suspecting about flashing a different ROM after foolishly updating to KitKat. I had my phone rooted before, but I unrooted it when I was done cleaning up the bloat. You are right about soft bricking the phone. When I tried reverting back to jellybean, it would soft brick my phone and I would have to have to install a back up of the PIT file using ODIN. I'm going to do some more research to see how the authentication process works for these ROM files. There has to be away to modify the contents of the ROM unless there is a predetermined data size and the phone stops the write process. Again thank you for your time and good luck.
Search again, by the way, you can do it now... Just wanted to let you know in case you stopped reading here
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