[Q] How to verify if it's a Clone? / Weird IMEI (SM-N9006) - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there,
I currently have an LG G2 that I paid 330$C a week ago and I found someone with a Galaxy Note 3 like new that his aunt gave him and that he finds too big blah blah blah
Now, it's a very interesting offer because I'm missing so badly my S2's removable battery and extensible sd card, and also worth nothing that some people then trade Galaxy Note 3 for Galaxy S5
Now, I'm supposed to see the dude tomorrow to do the trade, but 2 things made me unsure if it's a legit unit or a clone. First, the IMEI he told me points to a Galaxy Note 10.1 N8000, on two sites I checked, the IMEI says it's a tablet but that it's compatible to the network. Is it possible that this is indeed a Note 3 with an IMEI recognized as a Note 10.1?
Secondly, the model number he told me it is is the SM-N9006, which is a China model from what I've read on the internet. WCDMA version. Now I think there's no problem for that to work with my network (Bell Canada), altho I'm really unsure for LTE compatibility. I didn't find reliable source for complete specification sheet on this model. Maybe someone here can give me light about the bands it uses and if it's really the SnapDragon 800 version?
Now since we're in Montreal here in Canada, I wonder why and how could he buy a China model in here, that's curious. And the IMEI pointing to other samsung device? What's up with this do you guys think? Is it a phone that is gonna give me troubles or could it be fine and the real deal??
How to check if it's a Clone? What about the IMEI? If I ask him to install the Antutu app before we meet and that I run it and it scores 30 000+ and that the specs in the app say it's the snapdragon 800 procesor and 3gb RAM, could I believe it's the real deal? Because clones won't show with the real deal's procesor and RAM? And if I try it with my micro SIM card and that it works and I can make call and use internet, am I safe to go home with this phone knowing it's the real specs and work on network?
Big thanks for anyone helping me out with this!

First there's none WCDMA network in China...
China developed their own 3G system called TD-SCDMA...
And super king copy phone can display real phone info...
IMEI doesn't lie. Maybe the IMEI is cloned/tampered....
There's an app here in XDA (forgot where, its in Note 3 threads) that can check if its fake or real...

Manix123 said:
Hi there,
I currently have an LG G2 that I paid 330$C a week ago and I found someone with a Galaxy Note 3 like new that his aunt gave him and that he finds too big blah blah blah
Now, it's a very interesting offer because I'm missing so badly my S2's removable battery and extensible sd card, and also worth nothing that some people then trade Galaxy Note 3 for Galaxy S5
Now, I'm supposed to see the dude tomorrow to do the trade, but 2 things made me unsure if it's a legit unit or a clone. First, the IMEI he told me points to a Galaxy Note 10.1 N8000, on two sites I checked, the IMEI says it's a tablet but that it's compatible to the network. Is it possible that this is indeed a Note 3 with an IMEI recognized as a Note 10.1?
Secondly, the model number he told me it is is the SM-N9006, which is a China model from what I've read on the internet. WCDMA version. Now I think there's no problem for that to work with my network (Bell Canada), altho I'm really unsure for LTE compatibility. I didn't find reliable source for complete specification sheet on this model. Maybe someone here can give me light about the bands it uses and if it's really the SnapDragon 800 version?
Now since we're in Montreal here in Canada, I wonder why and how could he buy a China model in here, that's curious. And the IMEI pointing to other samsung device? What's up with this do you guys think? Is it a phone that is gonna give me troubles or could it be fine and the real deal??
How to check if it's a Clone? What about the IMEI? If I ask him to install the Antutu app before we meet and that I run it and it scores 30 000+ and that the specs in the app say it's the snapdragon 800 procesor and 3gb RAM, could I believe it's the real deal? Because clones won't show with the real deal's procesor and RAM? And if I try it with my micro SIM card and that it works and I can make call and use internet, am I safe to go home with this phone knowing it's the real specs and work on network?
Big thanks for anyone helping me out with this!
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Very simple.
Install Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app, go to 'Refurbishment Check' menu.

Honestly it sounds sketchy. I buy and sell phones as well as repair them and checking the iemi is the best thing to do. If it comes up with something else like it did in your case I would run away from it.
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Q: Which markets are getting the 64gb internal storage version

Had anyone heard of which markets are getting the 64gb internal storage version? Samsung has already advertise that a 64gb version will be releases but local retailers have no info on the matter.
Some obscure Asian markets and probably some sheikhs in UAE, Dubai and Iran.
As always, it will be available in 64gb in some obscure market on the other side of the planet
Thankfully it's 32gb minimum which softens the blow compared to the usual
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If anyone finds out which country gets N9005 (LTE, Snapdragon 800 version) with 64GB internal storage, that supports LTE bands 4 and 17 (AT&T) - please post here.
To answer question in the OP - Samsung UK and Australia already published official specs for their Note 3 version, as well as their carriers, and those countries offer the 64GB model. I'm sure more to come.
Unlikely to see 64gb version compatible with USA lte. And the slight chance you do expect to pay big big bucks. Unless a dev version comes out or a carrier picks it up.
And yet Samsung is releasing a GN3 16GB in Hong Kong, no word if they will get a 32GB GN3 at all. How odd is that.
bump...anyone has a list of markets, which are getting the 64GB internal storage Snapdragon 800 version? Not asking for speculations, only if you have the actual info, please
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bump...anyone has a list of markets, which are getting the 64GB internal storage Snapdragon 800 version? Not asking for speculations, only if you have the actual info, please
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Just found this one.
Very expensive, will call tomorrow to verify 64Gb internal memory. Not sure I'll be getting it at this price though, may wait a while.
http://www.android-enjoyed.com/sams...ogleproducts&gclid=COaz5NeK7bkCFQkSpQoddVsAAw
Richard.p said:
Just found this one.
Very expensive, will call tomorrow to verify 64Gb internal memory. Not sure I'll be getting it at this price though, may wait a while.
http://www.android-enjoyed.com/sams...ogleproducts&gclid=COaz5NeK7bkCFQkSpQoddVsAAw
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Thanks for sharing. When you call ask them the following questions:
- Is bootloader locked?
- Is is region locked?
- Is it carrier network locked?
- Why the hell the specs page says "Octa Core 2.3 GHz Processor " if it's N9005, LTE version?
Apo11on said:
Thanks for sharing. When you call ask them the following questions:
- Is bootloader locked?
- Is is region locked?
- Is it carrier network locked?
- Why the hell the specs page says "Octa Core 2.3 GHz Processor " if it's N9005, LTE version?
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The person I spoke to didn't have a clue.
She stated all the phones come unlocked and not locked to any carrier, didn't know anything about bootloader locking.
Asked about the processor and she started to talk about processing the order.
Asked about the CPU and all she said was it is all in the specification page.
I asked if the phone would work on the Australian Telstra 1800MHz 4G LTE network and she said, "yes definitely".
I'm still in two minds. I need to step back and wait a few days on this decision, it's a lot of money for a Phablet/portable computer.
Richard.p said:
The person I spoke to didn't have a clue.
She stated all the phones come unlocked and not locked to any carrier, didn't know anything about bootloader locking.
Asked about the processor and she started to talk about processing the order.
Asked about the CPU and all she said was it is all in the specification page.
I asked if the phone would work on the Australian Telstra 1800MHz 4G LTE network and she said, "yes definitely".
I'm still in two minds. I need to step back and wait a few days on this decision, it's a lot of money for a Phablet/portable computer.
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Looks like you didn't do a very good job when calling these people. Exynos SoC does not have LTE modem, so there is no N9005 LTE version with Octa core chip. That is clearly a mistake in the specs and you can take it to the bank. The person you spoke to has absolutely no technical knowledge, if you pointed out that CPU mistake and she still referred you to the specs page. Therefore the crediblity of her satement the phone works on Telstra's LTE network is zero.
I don't understand how you can even consider buying such an expensive device, without knowing what CPU it has, if it's region locked or not, if bootloader is locked and how much internal memory it has. I'd suggest calling back and asking to speak to person, who understands technical specifications of the product they sell - they gotta have staff members who do.
Richard.p said:
The person I spoke to didn't have a clue.
She stated all the phones come unlocked and not locked to any carrier, didn't know anything about bootloader locking.
Asked about the processor and she started to talk about processing the order.
Asked about the CPU and all she said was it is all in the specification page.
I asked if the phone would work on the Australian Telstra 1800MHz 4G LTE network and she said, "yes definitely".
I'm still in two minds. I need to step back and wait a few days on this decision, it's a lot of money for a Phablet/portable computer.
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Go top Mobiciti.com.au. They tell you the actual radio bands for each model, and if it will work on Telstra/Optus 4g (a major Q by customers these days). The N90005 does. As far as I am aware, the others ('00 = Otca, '02 = dual sim) do not.
[edit: OK, the 64GB is not for sale in Oz yet, if ever, but they have the info, anyway)
Apo11on said:
Looks like you didn't do a very good job when calling these people. Exynos SoC does not have LTE modem, so there is no N9005 LTE version with Octa core chip. That is clearly a mistake in the specs and you can take it to the bank. The person you spoke to has absolutely no technical knowledge, if you pointed out that CPU mistake and she still referred you to the specs page. Therefore the crediblity of her satement the phone works on Telstra's LTE network is zero.
I don't understand how you can even consider buying such an expensive device, without knowing what CPU it has, if it's region locked or not, if bootloader is locked and how much internal memory it has. I'd suggest calling back and asking to speak to person, who understands technical specifications of the product they sell - they gotta have staff members who do.
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Just had a conversation via costomer support, and seem to have got a bit further with their technical team.
"Now online: Leave a question or comment and our agents will try to attend to you shortly =)
Wednesday, October 2, 2013
Richard; Hi, I have a few questions regarding the 64Gb Galaxy Note 3 PRODUCT CODE HOSS00073BK
Customer Support For more great discounts, please check our other website: http://www.camerasky.com.au/
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Jo; Hello
Richard; Hi Jo,
Richard here,
I was speaking to someone earlier today about your Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N9005 LTE 64GB Black (4G). PRODUCT CODE HOSS00073BK.
I am very interested in buying this, however I have a few concerns.
A) Samsung has put 2 CPU models out for this phone
1. Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 which is Quad core @ 2.3 Ghz
2. Exynos 5 which is an Octa Core 5420 @ 1.9 Ghz
Samsung has not released a model that has Octa Core @ 2.3 Ghz as stated in your specification page
B) The other concern is that The Octa Core version that Samsung released does not support LTE, only the Quad Core version does.
The person I spoke to was in the process of referring the matter to her technical team for clarification.
She was also going to ask the technical team if the phone has a locked “Boot loader”
Sorry for the long post, Hope you can help
Jo; Thank you for contacting us. I see, Allow me to check this with our Technical team, your question may have also been sent to them. One moment please
Richard; I had to go to work ealier and so could't finish the conversation, I appreciate your time
Jo; I see. I am checking now Richard
Richard; thank you
Jo; Hello Richard .Thanks for waiting
Richard; Thats fine
Jo; Our technical team advised that it has a locked bootloader
Richard; Okay thanks for that, Any news on what type of CPU is in it? The Quad Core 2.3Ghz or the Octa Core 1.9Ghz?
Jo; About that, im still waiting for their advise
Richard; Okay Thanks
Jo; Hello Richard. Thanks again for waiting. They just advise that its Quad-core 2.3 GHz Krait 400
Richard; That's Great news, I means the phone will work with the LTE. one other question. I know the European phones are having issues with region locking and was wondering if this phone also is region locked?
Jo; No Richard, all the phones are unlocked"
Thanks for the update, although pasting full convo is not really necessary. Summarize it next time - people dont wanna read long posts. As far as bootloader being locked - I suspected as much, confirmation was just a formality. Samsung USA support supervisor confirmed to me there will be a developer edition of GN3 later on, so I hope Samsung makes one with 64GB of internal storage as well.
As far as your last question goes from that live chat - based on his/her response that person doesn't know what "region lock" is and was referring to carrier network lock when he/she said it is unlocked. Next time if you get a response like that - clarify or even paste them these links:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2013/09/25/samsung-galaxy-note-3-sim-limitations/
Bump...it's been confirmed the Australian 64GB version is not region locked, but the 2 major online retailers I asked said it has locked bootloader. Anyone know if there are any places in Australia, which sell the 64GB LTE model with unlocked bootloader?
EDIT: make it 3 major online retailers - just got response from Kogan. Their Notes also have locked bootloader
If someone knows of a country where they sell 64GB internal storage N9005 model, or has a link for a store that is selling it (preferably in stock, not pre-order) - please post here
Apo11on said:
If someone knows of a country where they sell 64GB internal storage N9005 model, or has a link for a store that is selling it (preferably in stock, not pre-order) - please post here
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I really wanted a 64gb, I ended up getting the 32 exynos from mobicity (australia). As far as I can tell the 64 isnt available anywhere in the world at the moment, and none of the handful of sellers Iv spoken to have any idea about when/if theyre going to get it. The more reputable online stores such as mobicity dont put a placeholder up unless they know for sure theyre getting it, and if there is an issue they will call you (Today i got a call from mobicity saying the galaxy gear lime green i ordered may not be coming in for a while, they dont know when they will get stock but they have black in stock so they can ship me one of those immediately if i prefer.)
That store you posted is clearly a case of clueless people writing up a placeholder item sheet for an item they have heard about and assume they will get since samsung announced it, but know nothing beyond that. If the specs page is poorly written and incorrect and it says "available for preorder", that should tell you all you need to know...
I don't think my phone has any kind of reigon lock - it didnt have any kind of reigon sticker on the box and from what samsung and mobicity have said I gather no sticker means no lock. Perhaps only asia pacific models are reigon free?
EDIT: I missed Apo11on's post, IF kogan's ones are bootloader locked I imagine mobicity's and anyone else's are the same. Unless there is a difference between the exynos and snapdragon as far as region locking.
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Some obscure Asian markets and probably some sheikhs in UAE, Dubai and Iran.
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Looks like you were dead on with that prediction. Here is a Qatar listing, where seller claims to sell 64GB Note 3: http://www.qatarliving.com/mobile-devices/mobile-phones/advert/samsung-galaxy-note-3-64gb
And here is Samsung UAE specs page for Note 3, which *does* list the 64GB internal storage version: http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/mobile-phones/mobile-phones/galaxy-note/SM-N9005ZKEXSI-spec
Can anyone from that region actually confirm Note 3 is being sold with 64GB of internal storage?
I can't confirm but that is often the case. Middle east and Asian markets usually get the bigger storage versions. If you have connections with T-Mobile you can try to get them to order you one. Need a sales rep with connections or know how.
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Should I buy it from USA or the Middle East?

I live in The Middle East and will be going to the USA very soon for a few months. My cousin works at a mobile phone repair shop(USA) and said he could get me a good offer (new or used). With all the different model numbers I'm confused about where to buy it from. I want the all around the world option where it works on all carriers wherever I go, even if I have to pay more. I would prefer the 8-core one but not sure what exactly I'm trading off or even if it's better. Also the Continent lock and the Knox thing....ugh my noobish brain can't handle this. Btw I am upgrading from a Galaxy Ace which is one **** of a phone.
abukh86 said:
I live in The Middle East and will be going to the USA very soon for a few months. My cousin works at a mobile phone repair shop(USA) and said he could get me a good offer (new or used). With all the different model numbers I'm confused about where to buy it from. I want the all around the world option where it works on all carriers wherever I go, even if I have to pay more. I would prefer the 8-core one but not sure what exactly I'm trading off or even if it's better. Also the Continent lock and the Knox thing....ugh my noobish brain can't handle this. Btw I am upgrading from a Galaxy Ace which is one **** of a phone.
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Im in Dubai
& its best to buy from the city your living in cos of Warranty
if u buy here it will be unlocked phone & usa if u get from Att or T mobile or etc it will be locked phone
they say international warranty but its always a problem
get the 4g LTE quad core cos it better to have fast net than a 8core phone
USA models always have lot of built in company software which u wont need here
rest is up to you
ilordvader said:
Im in Dubai
& its best to buy from the city your living in cos of Warranty
if u buy here it will be unlocked phone & usa if u get from Att or T mobile or etc it will be locked phone
they say international warranty but its always a problem
get the 4g LTE quad core cos it better to have fast net than a 8core phone
USA models always have lot of built in company software which u wont need here
rest is up to you
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Thanks for the reply. Just a few more quick questions please.
1) So when I go to buy the phone I actually have the option of 8-core/4-core? I was under the impression it was all 8-core since it's international.
2) In terms of rooting and Roms here on XDA, is one more XDA friendly than the other? Is there a model I should avoid?
abukh86 said:
Thanks for the reply. Just a few more quick questions please.
1) So when I go to buy the phone I actually have the option of 8-core/4-core? I was under the impression it was all 8-core since it's international.
2) In terms of rooting and Roms here on XDA, is one more XDA friendly than the other? Is there a model I should avoid?
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both can be rooted
4 cores is 4g LTE which I think is better cos aster net speed
8 cores is 3g only
the way Samsung 8 cores work ATM is, that you can only have 4 fast ones or 4 slow ones working, depending on load, but never all 8 at the same time. There was talk about software fix for this, but who knows how that will turn out. The risk of buying US phone are frequencies: for example T-mobile originated phone has some frequencies different than ATT etc, so you would really need to check to see if they match your home towers. I'm not sure if US phones are region locked, my T-Mobile Note 3 has 18 network lock entries, not 64 and they don't look anything like the codes posted on this forum by other users. Mine look like this "network lock 310200, 310210, 310310 etc. so I don't even know what they mean. US phones are usually carrier locked, but could be easily unlocked especially if paid COD. But if your cousin works in phone repair shop, not only he should know about frequencies, carrier/region locks and technical differences between Samsung and Qualcom CPU, he could probably get you great price. I would talk to him more.
Negri Electronics sell the N9005 and they told me it is not lock, not branded and will work everywhere.
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-n9005-galaxy-note-3-32gb-lte-unlocked-black.html#.Uso7rkDQv4X
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Negri Electronics sell the N9005 and they told me it is not lock, not branded and will work everywhere.
http://negrielectronics.com/samsung-n9005-galaxy-note-3-32gb-lte-unlocked-black.html#.Uso7rkDQv4X
i bought the 4g n9005 from Saudi Arabia cheaper than USA
abukh86 said:
I live in The Middle East and will be going to the USA very soon for a few months. My cousin works at a mobile phone repair shop(USA) and said he could get me a good offer (new or used). With all the different model numbers I'm confused about where to buy it from. I want the all around the world option where it works on all carriers wherever I go, even if I have to pay more. I would prefer the 8-core one but not sure what exactly I'm trading off or even if it's better. Also the Continent lock and the Knox thing....ugh my noobish brain can't handle this. Btw I am upgrading from a Galaxy Ace which is one **** of a phone.
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You should be able to find the N9005ZKEXSI which is the UAE version of the phone thats fully compatible with "My Number, My Identity" initiative. They are basically all the same except for basebands. I would stick to N9005 model due to developer support, snapdragon is better simply & exynos hasn't reached its potential & there is no word as of late on HMP to utilize all 8 cores.
Just remember, even though the N9005 is international there are still variants per country, which means the market they came from if you break it...is where it has to be repaired so buying a local N9005 model is the very best route to go which is the N9000ZKEXSG (Jordans version of Exynos) otherwise, you need to grab one from another closer market that does have the LTE model... aka UAE.
Get it from the country you spend the most time living in.
Isn't the USA one region locked?
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refinition said:
Isn't the USA one region locked?
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Most carriers release it if fully paid so its a yes/no answer.
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nxneko said:
You should be able to find the N9005ZKEXSI which is the UAE version of the phone thats fully compatible with "My Number, My Identity" initiative. They are basically all the same except for basebands. I would stick to N9005 model due to developer support, snapdragon is better simply & exynos hasn't reached its potential & there is no word as of late on HMP to utilize all 8 cores.
Just remember, even though the N9005 is international there are still variants per country, which means the market they came from if you break it...is where it has to be repaired so buying a local N9005 model is the very best route to go which is the N9000ZKEXSG (Jordans version of Exynos) otherwise, you need to grab one from another closer market that does have the LTE model... aka UAE.
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I have same product code as you mention N9005ZKEXSI ,like to know more about "My Number, My Identity" What it mean, I am also from U.A.E.
Thanks
jdomadia said:
I have same product code as you mention N9005ZKEXSI ,like to know more about "My Number, My Identity" What it mean, I am also from U.A.E.
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Some special registration thing from TRA called TRA:ID each device has one if you look in about device with stock rom or KEXSI csc. There will be two codes I am guessing you end up registering somewhere.
I cant really say as im using the kexsi 9005 in the states, its just something I saw while looking to see which country my note came from.
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nxneko said:
Some special registration thing from TRA called TRA:ID each device has one if you look in about device with stock rom or KEXSI csc. There will be two codes I am guessing you end up registering somewhere.
I cant really say as im using the kexsi 9005 in the states, its just something I saw while looking to see which country my note came from.
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Oh Okay TRA:ID & TA:00000 something like this is there, may u r saying about that, one more thing I notice is My mobile number is also appearing in status, I don't know for others also it's Same.
nxneko said:
Some special registration thing from TRA called TRA:ID each device has one if you look in about device with stock rom or KEXSI csc. There will be two codes I am guessing you end up registering somewhere.
I cant really say as im using the kexsi 9005 in the states, its just something I saw while looking to see which country my note came from.
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Mat One more question,you bought this phone in US & activate also in US? Its working after any modification in US or with stock rom without any problem, I am asking if I am traveling than I need to install custom ROM or it will work as it is with Stock ROM.
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jdomadia said:
Mat One more question,you bought this phone in US & activate also in US? Its working after any modification in US or with stock rom without any problem, I am asking if I am traveling than I need to install custom ROM or it will work as it is with Stock ROM.
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Its completely unlocked and has been working phone on 3G services on tmobile for me.

[Q] [Q&A] Trying to get Simple Mobile SIM to work on Note 3

Hello,
This is has been a very frustrating situation but here is where I am at currently. I use a carrier called "Simple Mobile" and they are an under carrier to TMobile. I want to own and use a Samsung Note 3 but can not get my SIM to work. That is the short introduction. I am providing some more information because this has been a long drawn out process but the bottom line is I want to continue using Simple Mobile AND use a Note 3.
Background: Back in late June 2014, I bought a used Note 3 N900V from ebay after I broke my Note 1. I love my Note 1 and it was the ATT branded model. I had the phone (Note 3)and it worked but had a very poor signal compared to using the same SIM card with my Note 1 (those threads are still available under my username). After many failed attempts to correct the situation and being educated about the phone model and so forth I found it in my best interest to return the phone for a refund and just repair my Note 1.
Currently: I repaired my Note 1 after the fiasco with the N900V model. However, my screen went purple recently and then wouldn't light up at all anymore. So I am where I was last time and looking to replace it. This time, armed with my knowledge from last time, I bought another Note 3 (model N900T this time), thinking it would be more compatible with my Simple Mobile (sub carried by T Mobile) as the N900T is a T-Mobile friendly phone. NOTE: I bought the phone used and through a mistake of the seller, what I have is actually a N900W8. The seller had replaced the screen and did a motherboard swap. The result is a phone with markings that say N900T but after a boot up provides software descriptions showing N900W8.
Why do I want to use Simple Mobile so bad? : Simple mobile charges me 40.00 + tax for Unlimited Data, Calls and Texts domestically + limited international texting to certain countries. For me, that is a great deal and I dont have to do a contract or pay extortionate fees to other providers. Yes, I am a cheap Bas*&^d as evidenced by me buying used phones to save a few hundred $$$'s here and there.
Dilemma: In my bid to purchase a Note 3 that works I looked at the Simple Mobile site. They do indeed sell a new model N900T, Link here: <http://www.mysimplephones.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-III-Simple-Mobile.html> HOWEVER, when you look at another page for compatible phones you will find that the N900T is not even a compatible model for Simple Mobile's 4G LTE service. YOU WILL HOWEVER FIND that there are two models of Note 3 that WILL work. The N900W8 (Canadian Model) and the N900A (ATT). This link shows those compatible 4G LTE phones: <http://simplemobileinfoblast.com/4glte/phones.php>
Interesting note: While I do actually have a 4G LTE compatible phone technically, since the phones software shows it is a N900W8 despite the shell being embossed N900T, it will not work AT ALL on my carrier. All attempts result in "NOT REGISTERED ON NETWORK" messages. My research thus far seems to indicate that the N900W8 Models come unlocked as new so I do not feel that my phone is locked.
Conclusion: My Note 1 is broken and I don't want to repair it so I will sell it as is elsewhere. I have a Note 3 N900W8 that will not work that I am going to return to the seller since it is not even the right model to begin with. It should be noted that the screen on the N900W8 WAS replaced but not very well and there are some annoying defects on the underside of the screen as a result. So after all of this expostition, Can anyone please tell me what model of Note 3 to get that will work with my simple mobile SIM?
It is my sincere hope that someone has gone through this same situation and can help guide me a bit.
Thank you
Wallace Bagwell said:
Hello,
This is has been a very frustrating situation but here is where I am at currently. I use a carrier called "Simple Mobile" and they are an under carrier to TMobile. I want to own and use a Samsung Note 3 but can not get my SIM to work. That is the short introduction. I am providing some more information because this has been a long drawn out process but the bottom line is I want to continue using Simple Mobile AND use a Note 3.
Background: Back in late June 2014, I bought a used Note 3 N900V from ebay after I broke my Note 1. I love my Note 1 and it was the ATT branded model. I had the phone (Note 3)and it worked but had a very poor signal compared to using the same SIM card with my Note 1 (those threads are still available under my username). After many failed attempts to correct the situation and being educated about the phone model and so forth I found it in my best interest to return the phone for a refund and just repair my Note 1.
Currently: I repaired my Note 1 after the fiasco with the N900V model. However, my screen went purple recently and then wouldn't light up at all anymore. So I am where I was last time and looking to replace it. This time, armed with my knowledge from last time, I bought another Note 3 (model N900T this time), thinking it would be more compatible with my Simple Mobile (sub carried by T Mobile) as the N900T is a T-Mobile friendly phone. NOTE: I bought the phone used and through a mistake of the seller, what I have is actually a N900W8. The seller had replaced the screen and did a motherboard swap. The result is a phone with markings that say N900T but after a boot up provides software descriptions showing N900W8.
Why do I want to use Simple Mobile so bad? : Simple mobile charges me 40.00 + tax for Unlimited Data, Calls and Texts domestically + limited international texting to certain countries. For me, that is a great deal and I dont have to do a contract or pay extortionate fees to other providers. Yes, I am a cheap Bas*&^d as evidenced by me buying used phones to save a few hundred $$$'s here and there.
Dilemma: In my bid to purchase a Note 3 that works I looked at the Simple Mobile site. They do indeed sell a new model N900T, Link here: <http://www.mysimplephones.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-III-Simple-Mobile.html> HOWEVER, when you look at another page for compatible phones you will find that the N900T is not even a compatible model for Simple Mobile's 4G LTE service. YOU WILL HOWEVER FIND that there are two models of Note 3 that WILL work. The N900W8 (Canadian Model) and the N900A (ATT). This link shows those compatible 4G LTE phones: <http://simplemobileinfoblast.com/4glte/phones.php>
Interesting note: While I do actually have a 4G LTE compatible phone technically, since the phones software shows it is a N900W8 despite the shell being embossed N900T, it will not work AT ALL on my carrier. All attempts result in "NOT REGISTERED ON NETWORK" messages. My research thus far seems to indicate that the N900W8 Models come unlocked as new so I do not feel that my phone is locked.
Conclusion: My Note 1 is broken and I don't want to repair it so I will sell it as is elsewhere. I have a Note 3 N900W8 that will not work that I am going to return to the seller since it is not even the right model to begin with. It should be noted that the screen on the N900W8 WAS replaced but not very well and there are some annoying defects on the underside of the screen as a result. So after all of this expostition, Can anyone please tell me what model of Note 3 to get that will work with my simple mobile SIM?
It is my sincere hope that someone has gone through this same situation and can help guide me a bit.
Thank you
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OK, so the Note N9005 is the same as the T and w8 models except for the radio differences. From the sounds of it the N3 you pruchased may have been blocked as it's carrying the not registered on network error (which is the common one for this) however. it's possible it's locked down but my understanding is the w8 is quite unrestricted.
IN regards to what model you should/need to use, if your carrier is under the T-Mo umbrella/piggy backs of their network then you need the N900T which is T-Mo's device. - But you may wanna ring T-Mo and ask to be 100% positive.
EDIT You wanna avoid the N900A (ATT) unless you're 100% sure you can get LTE with your provider, there's been a few people who have bough the A model and haven't been able to use it due to it being for ATT only (again, radio issues.)
After re-reading, I think the N900T is the one for sure (especially as Simple sell it (doubt they'll sell a device that isn't LTE compatible?), and I would ring Simple and T-Mo for 100% clarification as obviously, dropping a few hundred $$ on a phone which may not work isn't nice.
radicalisto said:
OK, so the Note N9005 is the same as the T and w8 models except for the radio differences. From the sounds of it the N3 you pruchased may have been blocked as it's carrying the not registered on network error (which is the common one for this) however. it's possible it's locked down but my understanding is the w8 is quite unrestricted.
IN regards to what model you should/need to use, if your carrier is under the T-Mo umbrella/piggy backs of their network then you need the N900T which is T-Mo's device. - But you may wanna ring T-Mo and ask to be 100% positive.
EDIT You wanna avoid the N900A (ATT) unless you're 100% sure you can get LTE with your provider, there's been a few people who have bough the A model and haven't been able to use it due to it being for ATT only (again, radio issues.)
After re-reading, I think the N900T is the one for sure (especially as Simple sell it (doubt they'll sell a device that isn't LTE compatible?), and I would ring Simple and T-Mo for 100% clarification as obviously, dropping a few hundred $$ on a phone which may not work isn't nice.
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Thank you for reading and replying...
Im quite torn but what you say makes plenty of sense.
I am under the same thought process as yours thinking that the N900T version they sell in their own shop is the model to get.... but then I read about the compatible devices with "4G LTE" and dont even see it, but instead see the N900W8 and N900A models instead. I had the N900V model Note 3 before and it "worked" on my network but the coverage and signal strength suffered greatly and displayed +H most of the time. So the N900V at least worked with my SIM vs the N900W8 not even using the network (it does show ATT and Simple Mobile networks under the network settings but cant register on either one).
I know they are different phones completely but the ATT branded Note 1 gave me no problems at all with my Simple SIM. My wife has the same model Note 1 as me and her phone actually shows 4G LTE next to the bars whereas mine only shows 4G. I called and spoke to CS a few months ago to figure out the disparity and it would seem that since I bought her SIM card more recently that mine (hers 2014 vs mine 2011) that the SIM itself makes the network 4G LTE more friendly somehow. So with that in mind I have ordered a new micro SIM from Simple thinking that it might solve some issues. The only reason I never ordered a new SIM sooner is because I wasnt really worried about the 4G LTE vs 4G problem as my UL/DL speeds were more than adequate. Hence, I am seriously thinking of trying out the N900A model.
I guess the easiest answer is that I think the N900T model "would work" but the compatible model page shows the other 2 models and not the N900T with regards to 4G LTE coverage and NOT general signal coverage.
I am going to ring T mobile and see if this model is locked down, thanks for that, good advice.
In regards to me being 100% sure about the ATT model being LTE compatible, I am thinking it would be possible (not 100% though) with regards to my wife's N1 and newer SIM (hers is also a branded ATT N1 like my broken ATT N1. with an older SIM).
Any thoughts? Thanks again...
The Note 3, changed a lot in regards to the hardware and radios used. Samsung and the carriers in their infinite wisdom trying to lock people down via either region lock, sim lock and boot loader lock downs.
It is possible that the A model will work, it could be that Simple has a deal with T-Mo and ATT in which it can use both carriers towers for H+ and LTE.
See what T-Mo say, and even give ATT a ring also, no harm in asking them direct.
Also as you've stated the sim may also have something to do with picking up LTE straight of the bat.
Ring T-Mo/ATT see what they say, then that way you know which way to go and at least doing it that way you have the comfort in knowing that the provider themselves have assured you what will and won't work.
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The Note 3, changed a lot in regards to the hardware and radios used. Samsung and the carriers in their infinite wisdom trying to lock people down via either region lock, sim lock and boot loader lock downs.
It is possible that the A model will work, it could be that Simple has a deal with T-Mo and ATT in which it can use both carriers towers for H+ and LTE.
See what T-Mo say, and even give ATT a ring also, no harm in asking them direct.
Also as you've stated the sim may also have something to do with picking up LTE straight of the bat.
Ring T-Mo/ATT see what they say, then that way you know which way to go and at least doing it that way you have the comfort in knowing that the provider themselves have assured you what will and won't work.
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I'm looking up the contact numbers for T Mobile now and will probably try to look at what ATT has to say/can do.
Simple Mobile, bless their hearts, to keep things so cheap use a calling center in the Philippines and have been of very little help to me trying to figure this out.
I'll keep this thread updated but I'm still torn between the N900V and N900A, only leaning towards the N900A because of the link I shared earlier with regards to 4G LTE compatibility. :/
Thanks again Radicalisto.
Hope you get it sorted, let me know the outcome I'm quite curious now myself. Good luck!
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radicalisto said:
Hope you get it sorted, let me know the outcome I'm quite curious now myself. Good luck!
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So I have finally reached a solution.
After all of the hassle and trial and error, I was able to get a Note 3 to work with 4G LTE by using a Note 3 model N900A and an updated Simple Mobile Sim card.
It seemed a little counter intuitive to use an ATT branded phone versus a T Mobile branded phone knowing that Simple is undercarried by T mobile but that is just what it took.
It should be known that I did not try and use my "old" SIM from Simple but ordered a new one and had my number transferred to the new SIM before the phone arrived. The rational behind purchasing a new SIM was based on the experience of my wife and I using our Note 1(s). Both of our Note 1(s) were ATT branded (i717). Though I bought her Simple SIM about 2 years after my own. The result was my phone only showed 4G while hers would should 4G LTE. Strange being they are both the same model phone with the same carrier but that was the fix: updated SIMs, whether it was embedded software or something else.
So for now, I can close this little chapter and enjoy my Note 3.
If anyone else is reading this, please feel free to message me and I will be happy to share anything I may have forgotten to share here.
Thanks to everyone who helped as well, I know I have a few threads on XDA looking for solutions. :/
Wallace
Good stuff, glad you got it sorted

What kind of Galaxy is this?

My friend recently bought a phone from someone. They were told it was a Samsung Galaxy s4. She bought a net10 sim card that works off t-mobiles network. She got talk and text working, however, data does not work. She took it to t-mobile and they setup her apns, but it still didn't work. The rep there said it was a foreign phone, so they couldn't do anything with it.
Can anyone tell me what variant this is? I've looked online but can't seem to find anything.
Under settings > about phone:
Model: A109M
Baseband: i9500xxuamdk
Build: A109M_V1.0_VO1_2013-10-09_21:21:56:27
I don't have the phone on me, but if there's anything other info that would help in identifying it, let me know and I'll try and get it. I've only dealt with HTC phones, so it's a little out of my realm.
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My friend recently bought a phone from someone. They were told it was a Samsung Galaxy s4. She bought a net10 sim card that works off t-mobiles network. She got talk and text working, however, data does not work. She took it to t-mobile and they setup her apns, but it still didn't work. The rep there said it was a foreign phone, so they couldn't do anything with it.
Can anyone tell me what variant this is? I've looked online but can't seem to find anything.
Under settings > about phone:
Model: A109M
Baseband: i9500xxuamdk
Build: A109M_V1.0_VO1_2013-10-09_21:21:56:27
I don't have the phone on me, but if there's anything other info that would help in identifying it, let me know and I'll try and get it. I've only dealt with HTC phones, so it's a little out of my realm.
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Boot into download mode and there is your device model. The method you are using can easily be modified using a custom rom.
Analyzing your baseband , your phone probably is a i9500 (3G version). There's an app called Genuine Galaxy S4 . Install it and it'll tell you:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.xihuanat.truth
mattprice86 said:
My friend recently bought a phone from someone. They were told it was a Samsung Galaxy s4. She bought a net10 sim card that works off t-mobiles network. She got talk and text working, however, data does not work. She took it to t-mobile and they setup her apns, but it still didn't work. The rep there said it was a foreign phone, so they couldn't do anything with it.
Can anyone tell me what variant this is? I've looked online but can't seem to find anything.
Under settings > about phone:
Model: A109M
Baseband: i9500xxuamdk
Build: A109M_V1.0_VO1_2013-10-09_21:21:56:27
I don't have the phone on me, but if there's anything other info that would help in identifying it, let me know and I'll try and get it. I've only dealt with HTC phones, so it's a little out of my realm.
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I've searched high and low on this model and all points to this not being a genuine s4.
Regardless in what version the baseband version saying it's a Chinese version.
Does the phone have an infrared port and does it work does all the specs match the i9500 (Chinese varient) or i9505 (international) also check the ram (should be 2gb) but run antutu benchmark as some of the "fake" manufactures (if it is) can modify the phone info with build prop editor to display false info
And install this app off playstore this will display all your phones info. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.innovationm.myandroid
However antutu benchmark is your best bet as if your score is between 22000 and 29000 then it could be genuine but if its 18000 or lower alarm bells should be ringing
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I think CPU-Z from the play store also tells you the processor in the phone. Authentic Galaxy S4s have either the Exynos 5 Octa 5410 (GT-I9500), Snapdragon 600, (I9505 and US models), and also Snapdragon 800.
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1eyedmonster said:
I've searched high and low on this model and all points to this not being a genuine s4.
Regardless in what version the baseband version saying it's a Chinese version.
Does the phone have an infrared port and does it work does all the specs match the i9500 (Chinese varient) or i9505 (international) also check the ram (should be 2gb) but run antutu benchmark as some of the "fake" manufactures (if it is) can modify the phone info with build prop editor to display false info
And install this app off playstore this will display all your phones info. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.innovationm.myandroid
However antutu benchmark is your best bet as if your score is between 22000 and 29000 then it could be genuine but if its 18000 or lower alarm bells should be ringing
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You could very well be correct, Bc she said there were some things on the phone that were in Chinese. Also, the settings didn't look like traditional touchwiz, but I could be wrong. I only saw it for a minute.
Unfortunately , I haven't been able to see the phone or hear from her again, so I can't download the apps listed or go into download mode. I'll let you know if I do hear from her again. Thanks everyone for all their help

[Q] Best buy "unlocked" galaxy s5: unlocked bootloader?

I've been an iPhone user for 5 years now. 3G and 5 versions. I am tired of iTunes I would also like to tinker a bit with my next phone. . I have used Linux as my main desktop os for a few years.
Anyways, I'm on a grandfathered unlimited data plan on att. My iphone 5 has no working power button, the mic is defective and the battery is worn.
I work in construction so i was considering the s5 for its dust rating and removable battery.
I spoke with tmobile today and they told me that any tmobile device, even if bought for full price new on amazon or best buy would be locked to tmobile service. They informed me I would need service with them in order to unlock. If that's the case it rules out buying a tmobile version for the unlocked bootloader.
Does the unlocked version from bestbuy come with the unlocked boot loader?
To clarify I meant the model listed as "Sam G900"
Sayn3ver said:
To clarify I meant the model listed as "Sam G900"
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Go into settings and in "about device" for the model name. Sam G900 is not a model name.
lingowistico said:
Go into settings and in "about device" for the model name. Sam G900 is not a model name.
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I'm pretty sure he's just going off what best buy says for the model.
I too am wondering this question. Very disappointed in the new S6, thought it was going to be "the next big thing", turns out they just want to be like apple now.
Side note, where would u recommend buying an unlocked bootloader S5, that has LTE capabilities for att? Or does that not exist in the US? Been searching but coming up empty handed.
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I don't have the phone I am referencing. Like mentioned earlier, it's just the model number off of best buys webpage. They have the g900a model and a Sam-g900 for sale. They only sell the tmobile prepaids unlocked at a higher price point.
Is there a reputable online seller of new or refurbished unlocked tmobile versions?
I don't know if I wanna gamble buying used.
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I'm pretty sure he's just going off what best buy says for the model.
I too am wondering this question. Very disappointed in the new S6, thought it was going to be "the next big thing", turns out they just want to be like apple now.
Side note, where would u recommend buying an unlocked bootloader S5, that has LTE capabilities for att? Or does that not exist in the US? Been searching but coming up empty handed.
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Buy a 900f from ebay. There are tons of reputable sellers there, just look at their feedback score. All qualcomm models support all lte frequencies, however they're not activated by default. There's a guide in general or q&a which shows how to activate all freqeuncies
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Buy a 900f from ebay. There are tons of reputable sellers there, just look at their feedback score. All qualcomm models support all lte frequencies, however they're not activated by default. There's a guide in general or q&a which shows how to activate all freqeuncies
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Does the 900f come with unlocked bootloaders? Is there a way you can identify if they have an unlocked bootloader without physically checking the phone just don't want to spend hundreds of dollars and kinda get stuck with a phone that's not what I wanted.
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I just purchased an unlocked GS5 G900T (Tmobile version) from eBay yesterday, and should have it by the end of the week. I've purchased my last 3 phones from eBay, and all have been true to the ad, and in excellent condition.
You do need to study the photos closely though, and make sure the seller has good feed back, and a lot of feedback (I never buy from sellers who have only a few ratings and/or using a new account).
I got this phone to use with ATT and wanted an unlocked bootloader. Kinda wish I knew that you could activate the frequencies on the 900F though, as it seems like most of the development is for that model. Oh well, as long as I can root and have a few choices of ROMs, I'll be happy.
I'll probably be using some sort of stock based rom on this phone (for a while at least).
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Does the 900f come with unlocked bootloaders? Is there a way you can identify if they have an unlocked bootloader without physically checking the phone just don't want to spend hundreds of dollars and kinda get stuck with a phone that's not what I wanted.
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Yes, the 900f/klte/international has an unlocked bootloader
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Yes, the 900f/klte/international has an unlocked bootloader
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ok cool, thanks for all the help!!
I did not know that T-Mobiles Galaxy S5 Came with unlocked bootloaders. I am just going to get one from them since T-Mobile and ATT run on basically the same LTE Basebands and LTE will not be affected as much as the international version when i'm on ATT's network
fals3illusion said:
I'm pretty sure he's just going off what best buy says for the model.
I too am wondering this question. Very disappointed in the new S6, thought it was going to be "the next big thing", turns out they just want to be like apple now.
Side note, where would u recommend buying an unlocked bootloader S5, that has LTE capabilities for att? Or does that not exist in the US? Been searching but coming up empty handed.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
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didn't read the rest of the replies but cricket...they sell it with unlocked boot loader, and you can sim unlock after six months...but they are owned wholly by att so you'll have att's reception and reliability. Of course your unlimited data would be history but crickets rates are significantly lower than most other mvno carriers
Edit: the model no is sm-g900az
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I called bestbuy.com customer service. The customer service agent was no help. No additional info than what's provided on the webpage (actual samsung model # is what I was looking for).
She transferred me to their technical support department. The gentleman spent about 5 minutes or so searching and couldn't come up with anything more.
I was told to call an actual best buy store and speak with their mobile department.
I called later today when best buy opened up. Sat on hold for 8min before an actual human being answered the phone. They too were no help. The conversation went like this...
Me: do you know which model of the g900 the sku 5760005 is referring to. . The listed model number Sam-g900 with that sku# is not an actual samsung model number.
Them: it's a g900.
Me: no you do not understand, g900 should be followed by one more letter. Is it a g900a, g900t, g900v, g900f, g900h, etc?
Them: it's a g900. What provider do you have?
Me: I'm on att but probably going to tmobile soon.
Them: we don't carry tmobile. I have a g900a. It works good. (they have the prepaid tmobile s5 on their website).
Me: nvm. Thanks have a nice day.....click.

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